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♪ we will take back the land that they are currently in. we will cut off their finances and we will hunt down their leadership. we will dismantle their networks and their supply lines and we will ultimately destroy them. >> breaking this morning. president obama sending a strong message to the other world leaders that these terrorists, isis, will be stopped.
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also breaking overnight, brussels still on the highest terror alert level and want to share the dramatic pictures we are getting inside the apartment that was part of the raid on wednesd wednesd wednesday. so grateful to have your company. thank you for sharing your time with us. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. our frederik pleitgen is following the headlines from paris, including the president's message to terrorists and other world leaders about taking out isis. fred, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, victor and christi. a beautiful day here. it is exactly mid-day here. we are seeing a lot of people come out to the make-shift memorial out here. a young group kept singing the french national anthem to show
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their defiance in the face of terrorism. of course, at the same time, there is still a lot of concern in this city after the terror attacks took place. are the security services here really on top of the terror threat? we will get to all of that in a second. but first of all, let's get some of the news that has been coming in in this investigation. of course, also the greater global political impact. as major european cities are on high alert because of the threat from isis, president obama, as you said, has this message for terrorists -- you will be destroyed. the president spoke at a news conference in kuala lumpur using some of the his strong message yesterday. >> we will not accept the idea that terrorists assaults on theaters and hotels are the new normal or we are powerless to stop them. that is what terrorists like
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isil want because ultimately the only way they can win. they can't beat us on the battlefield so they try to terrorize us into being afraid, into changing our patterns of behavior and into panicking, into abandoning our allies and partners and in retreating from around the world. as president, i will not let that happen or even as we destroy isil on the battlefield and we will destroy them, we will take back land that they are currently in, we will cut off their financing, we will hunt down their leadership, we will dismantle their networks and their supply lines, and we will ultimately destroy them, even as we are in the process of doing that, we want to make sure that we don't lose our own values and our own principles.
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>> reporter: now, the president will have even more international fire power at his disposal. french say an aircraft carrier will be others on monday in the mediterranean sea. joining me now is terrorism expert sajohn gohale who is of the asian pacific foundation. do you think, isis, through these terror attacks, has managed to do what international diplomats have not and to unite isis against them? >> one hopes a consensus is building now between the countries, such as the united states, britain and france and russia on one side and to work out a strategy and come together and dismantle isis.
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we know they have competing interests in syria but they face the common threat of isis. they also suffered from terrorism by this group and also they actually come to a proper conclusion, they will suffer more attacks in the future. one hopes that paris is a watershed moment and they can actually try to move forward as opposed to good nighting with each other. >> reporter: i want us to listen to some more of what the president said today. here is another sound bite from him and then let's talk about that afterwards. >> they are a bunch of killers with good social media. and they are dangerous and they have caused great hardship to people. the most powerful tool we have to fight isil is to say that we are not afraid. to not elevate them.
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to somehow buy into their fantasy that they are doing something important. they are a bunch of killers. and there have been people throughout human history who can find an excuse to kill people because they don't think like them or look like them, and we fight them and we beat them. >> reporter: we ghemt. we beat them. the president said they have managed progress against isis because they have managed to contain them. now he is talking about destroying them. do you think there is a new quality, new urgency to what he is saying? >> well, keep in mind, that whatever the air strikes have done in the last year, and it seems to be debatable whether they have been contained or not
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isis has been able to carry out more attacks in more parts of the world than ever before. what needs to be done is the dismantling of structure on the ground, otherwise it will continue to exist and support their agenda and a new media platform and radicalize self-starters. whatever the tough rhetoric is it has to be matched now with deeds, because, otherwise, they will plot and plan other attacks. this is a death cult that very much wanted economic -- >> reporter: do you think that isis is conducting more of thee terror attacks we are seeing, for instance, against the russian airliner and the paris attacks here because they are losing ground on the battlefield? do you think it's a reaction from them to keep up their media blitz, if you will, that they have been conducting over the past years to signal that they
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have momentum when, in reality, they don't? >> well, that certainly is one take and it's plausible and it's possibly, but i wouldn't rule out the fact this is a group that is also testing the west resolve, testing that red line of how many people can they kill before the west is actually going to react in a much more aggressive way? i call it a kind of pre-9/11 moment when al qaeda attacking the u.s. embassies in kenya and tanzania and then the u.s. didn't really react and didn't take decisive action and convincing al qaeda they could step up operations and culminating in the 9/11 attacks. unless the west takes direct action and dismantling isis infrastructure the terror group will think they can still plan more attacks. >> thank you for joining us from london via skype. thank you very much. always good to talk to you. remember, while we have the situation going on here in
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paris, while the manhunt is going on, while the city is trying to regroup, we also have a situation going on in belgium and where we want to head right now where brussels remains on lockdown for a second day. the subways in that city where closed. the streets are flooded with police. however our drew griffin is there on the ground and he joins us there live. drew, is there any indication about how much longer the city will remain under that heightened terror alert? >> reporter: fred, the prime minister and his security officials will meet within this hour to try and determine whether or not to keep this city and its threat level of four, the metro closed and all of the concert venues and public spaces closed, as you say, or to announce that there is going to be some sort of lifting of this as we begin the workweek tomorrow here in brussels. it's all going to hinge upon whether or not they have contained offer on feel like the
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threat that developed on friday night is over, or still present, and that was separate and above in the search for the eighth paris attacker. they have been trying to find that salal abdeslam since last weekend but only friday night they announced a separate threat, some kind of plot that they got wind of that involved several different locations and that is why they went to these emergency procedures punish there should be some sort of announcement this afternoon but right now the city remains somewhat paralyzed, though, not in fear, just paralyzed because most of the public venues have closed. fred? >> drew griffin there in brussels keeping an eye on the situation there, as people very concerned. thank you very much for your insight. still to come, it's sunday afternoon now in paris. barely afternoon. the sun on out.
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the holiday decorations are up. how is the city coping today, nine days after the attacks. we are learning more about a powerful drug that isis is reportedly giving its fighters making them feel invincible on the battlefield. that's coming up. >> keep you awake. you can stay awake for daze at a time. you don't have to sleep. it gives you a sense of well-being and euphoria and you think you're invincible and nothing can harm you. big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern. (vo) wit runs on optimism.un on?
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malaysia where the president spoke and, of course, it is here in paris and belgium as well. new this morning, we have shocking images of that paris apartment where a third unidentified terror suspect blew himself up during the police raid. just take a look at these pictures from sendane. holes are smashed in the walls and huge bullet pockmarks on the wall and rooms just covered, absolutely covered in debris. police say entire floors were destroyed and a whole ceiling blown off during that blast. plus we are now getting a clearer picture of suspect salah abdeslam's escape after the paris attacks and he is one of the guys they believe might have responsible for some of the l logistics. tika, talk to me about the raid that unfolded and you heard the
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intensity of that raid and talk to us about the pictures you're seeing now. >> you can see the devastation the explosions caused. 4:30 a.m. the gun battle started there. this was a massive gunfight. the other explosions or the six or seven that caused the structural damage. the ceiling collapsed in one. one of the floors collapsed as well. >> window blown out and damage from the inside/out. >> i think it was a poor structural building but it's so difficult for forensic investigators to comb through the debris and get the dna they need to identify the people there, including we have that third man who remains unidentified. >> they singled out his dna,
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haven't they? >> they have but he's not on any records here. maybe he is from overseas. they don't know. >> the eighth attacker -- any way abdeslam is on the run and last place he was seen was moving on over to belgium. new things we are hearing from the lawyer of the one of the people err shortly apprehended with. >> piecing together the events that he rented a black car. we know he was picked up from two friends from brussels early in the morning just 20-minute walk from that area. now what we believe is that they called him and he said come get me. maybe he was supposed to carry out an attack that he didn't and that is supported by the words of the lawyer. >> two options basically. one his vest didn't go off.
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he might have blowing himself up but it didn't work. the second is he couldn't go through with it because he got scared. now people seem to be indicating he was wearing a bulky jacket. >> the two men that picked him up are now in police custody and they have been charged and their testimony was he was wearing a bulky jacket and extremely nervous but they were stopped three times by police on the way out before think realized who they were looking for and they said he remained calm throughout, but they were concerned after the fact that he may have had an explosives vest underneath that but they don't know. they weren't part of the planning of the attacks. it is interesting testimony and we don't know where he is at now, whether or not he's in brussels, belgium or on elsewhere. his brother said he should turn himself in and so far is there no sign of him. >> very emotional interview he did with erin burnett. thank you for joining me here. we have new video from a
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christmas market today which is one of the major ones in paris and always a major attraction. it is under tight surveillance and far from a festive there. there is a lot of security forces on the ground and you barely see any people. people are trying to get on with their normal routines and not let terror attacks ruin the holiday spirit that is so special this time of year here in paris. we also have, for the first time ever, testimony from the band playing in paris, the night of the attacks and they are now speaking out about the chaos they saw. hear part of the emotional interview with eagles of death metal front man jesse hughes. heightened security in the u.s. could mean longer lines and more
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♪ breaking overnight. president obama renewing his commitment to fight isis. earlier this morning, kuala lumpur, malaysia, the president vowed he would lead the world in destroying isis. >> he cautioned once they are gone, there may be other terror groups forming in their wake. >> those of us who are charged with protecting the american people are going to do everything we can to destroy
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this particular network. once this network is destroyed -- and it will be -- there maybe be others that pop up in different parts of the world, and so we are going to have to continue to take seriously how we maintain the infrastructure that we built to prevent this. >> a bit of emotion also from the president as he talked about the fallout from the isis threat. the hundreds of thousands of refuges pouring out of the middle east and the reaction that some are receiving from politicians in the u.s. >> if you are a parent and you saw those kids, you thought about what they had gone through, the notion that we couldn't find a home for them anywhere in the u.s. of america? that's -- that is contrary to our values. >> also, of course, monitoring the terror threat in europe. we want to get you now to paris
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where frederik pleitgen is leading our coverage of the terror threat there in europe. france on a national state of emergency, as is brussels on high alert. good morning, fred. >> reporter: good morning. you're right, victor and christi. paris and brussels on high alert. it is a beautiful fall day here in paris. however, this city is very much in mourning and its citizens very much concerned. many people are coming out here to the make-shift memorial at the place de la repew beak and many singing the national anthem here. brussels in a state of heightened terror alert at the highest possible level. the streets there mostly clear as police are on patrol. the subway remained closed for a second day running as the city is under that high terror alert.
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the terror alert number four. drew griffin has been in brussels since last tuesday. drew, what is it like on the streets of brussels? how are the people there coping? on. >> reporter: they are trying to do the best they could. we have breaking news that end the weekend for this city. the security meeting that was supposed to take place this hour has been now pushed back until 5:00 p.m. local time. the education minister has been quoted in a newspaper as saying there is only a 50/50 chance that schools will open and new additional security measures have been put in place in railways and they are asking people to arrive 30 minutes early for any railway departure they have. what we are seeing is the increasing level of security going on that seems to indicate whatever threat is happening here is still not over. in the meantime, we did go out on the streets trying to find signs of life and there is not
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much to be had. this is one of those streets that is usually filled, cafes and people outside and enjoying themselves and walking in this pedestrian way. today, it is completely empty. who do you see on the street? you can see them patrolling soldiers. they are everywhere in brussels on this sunday. this is the biggest inconvenience, the metro is completely closed. you can see behind me here, they have the tape that was covering it but people now know not to go down there. metro closed. doors pretty much locked below there. if you look up here, again, this huge street should be streaming with people and there is just a few people walking around, certainly not the crowds you expect to see on this pre-holiday city in the capital of belgium. not everything is dismal and not everything is shut down. the famous chocolate shops are
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opening now. there are tourists out trying to enjoy the day. if you come to the main plaza of the old city, they are setting up the christmas tree and the christmas decorations. the christmas market is due to open on this coming friday and people of brussels are just hoping all of this threat level and tension will certainly be over by then so that they can light this tree and get on with the holiday season. there is no sense of panic, of course, here, fred. just people are trying to get on with their day. you can walk around all you want. not much to do. so many of the stores have been closed and all of the public activities, theaters, lecture s and concerts have been shuttered for this day. we will find out more hopefully this afternoon whether this continues into the monday morning workweek. fred? >> as you said, 5:00 p.m. your
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local time. that is 11:00 a.m. eastern time. thanks very much, drew griffin, for keeping an eye on the situation there in the belgium capital of brussels. another aspect to the attacks that happened in paris and genuinely, when it comes to the war on isis. it's one you might not have heard of yet. u.s. officials are revealing that isis fighters may be fueled by not just extremist ideologies but by a black market and amphetamine that is becoming popular in the middle east. cnn's own brian todd takes a closer look at one pill that is boosting them. >> reporter: a captured isis militant named careen told how he got his drugs. >> make you go to battle and not caring whether you live or die. >> reporter: when our cnn team interviewed him last year he was held by kurdish militants in syria and impossible to know whether he was telling the truth or coached by his captors.
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now a u.s. official tells cnn it's believed some jihadist fighters are using captagon. how will it fuel them on the battlefield? >> you can stay awake days at a time. you don't have to sleep. it gives you a sense of well-being and euphoria and you think you're invincible and nothing can harm you. >> reporter: recently, the u.n.'s drug czar sent isis and affiliated front were believed to be smuggling captagon. cnn has been told there is a robust black market for the drug in the middle east. analysts say the profits fund weapons purchases for jihadist groups. >> hezbollah and people affiliated with hezbollah have a long history and sale of captagon. at one point a fight some were angry they weren't getting a cut of this business. >> reporter: captagon was developed in the '60s and used to treat people with
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hyperactivity and since banned in the u.s. and elsewhere. while some question the drug's prevalence among fighters, analysts say jihadists can find a -- >> jihadist scholars would argue it's not hypocriticahypocritica. it's not a drug taken to get high. >> reporter: this one says captagon can make a user hear voices and see things that aren't there. that could hurt you on the battlefield, right? >> absolutely. but i think they have made the decision that keeping these guys awake four or five days at a time and giving them the sense of ability. >> reporter: whatever the side effects the drug produces there are horrible downsides and users can be psychotic and brain damage and can get addicted to the drug for years to come. brian todd, cnn. washington. still to come, we hear from
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whose concert was targeted by terrorists during the attacks here in paris. two of the eagles of death metal band mates are detailing what happened inside the bataclan concert hall where they were playing when the terrorists struck. now, 89 people were killed at that venue. take a listen to the band's lead singer jesse hughes as he describes what occurred during an interview. >> several people hid in our dressing room and killers able to get in and kill every one of them, except a kid hiding under my leather jacket. >> killers got in your dressing room? >> yeah. people were playing dead. they were so scared. great reason why so many were killed is because so many people wouldn't leave their friends. so and so many people put themselves in front of people. >> reporter: some of devastating testimony there. very emotional. of course, i want to bring in
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1y50u7 julian who is political analyst and a professor of the university of paris. you just heard that testimony there. very emotional. how does that mesh with what you were hearing from the survivors of the bataclan raid? >> i'm not surprised that people tried to keep people safe and their friends safe, because a lot of people hid. they said to the others, keep quiet when closing the bars and -- as well we had #welcomehome meaning people welcoming people in the street to hide them. >> a big movement as the attacks were going on, people letting other people into their houses. a great show of solidarity. >> i think so. even though it's not terror attacks because it's not a war zone. but with "charlie hebdo" we are
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seeing that they can actually hit any time, anywhere. that is the very method of terrorism. people actually try to react positively with a great sense of solidarity to these attacks. >> there is, obviously, a reaction also from france. there is a reaction as far as law enforcement is concerned, but also a reaction as far as the war against isis is concerned. one of the things that we are seeing in place apparently by tomorrow is the aircraft carrier off the coast of syria. how many fire power does that give the french air forces there? how does that change the game for france? >> it will triple our capability on the ground, meaning that we have our fighters -- >> brand-new fighter jet fourth generation fighter yet? >> we have 12 and now have 36. it's better regarding the air containment but we have to understand is that we won't defeat isis just by air.
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we did that with the u.s. in afghanistan and taliban are still on the ground. so we have to develop another strategy, implement strategy on the ground. local forces or international forces, but we have to go further and our lilt chief of staff said today that we can't win the war against isis just because -- just with planes. we have to develop a full political and prominent strategy and why our president will go to head of states -- >> what do you think that is the strategy cal effect? >> i think the military is very important and we definitely have to use it but it's not sufficient. on the ground, the only alternative proposed to the -- is the restoration of the rule and we have to develop a political solution on the ground, including for the sunni populations. >> thank you for joining us. you've been here all week, jewel
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passengers will pack on to planes to kick off the holiday travel season. from now until december 1st it's estimated a total 25 million people will fly on u.s. airlines. 3% more than last year. this as airports around the country remain on high alert. >> usa has to be a lot more thorough because of these concerns. in the end take more time to screen each person and that is going to add up to on longer lines. >> reporter: travelers should expect longer wait lines as tsa will take longer to inspect luggage. even pre-checked passengers may be required to remove their shoes and laptops. homeland security has also called for spanneded screening of all items on aircraft, leaving overseas airports with direct flights to the united states.
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there's no known specific threat to the u.s., but passenger planes remain a target for terrorists. this week, isis claimed this is the bomb that brought down a russian passenger plane earlier this month. that crash, along with the terrorist attacks in paris, have led to a climate where pilots and airlines are taking no chances. >> the next aircraft on file is the emergency aircraft. >> reporter: two air france flights were diverted this week after bomb threats were called in. >> as a precaution, we are declaring an emergency situation to the security issue. >> reporter: thursday nice a spirit airlines flight was forced to make an emergency landing in ft. lauderdale after another bomb threat. they all proved to be hoaxes. but heightened airport security, paired with more holiday travelers, will likely lead to long waits at america's airports. >> everybody understands the first priority is to be safe. now especially with the new security concerns, you're really, more than ever, want to get to the airport early. >> reporter: the other factor
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that could impact wait times, tsa's full-time airport security staffing levels have steadily decreased due to a shrinking budget. >> rene, thank you very much. coming up in the next hour, we are going live back to paris with the latest on the high alert there and in major european cities today, and maybe tomorrow. also the new details in the investigation surrounding last week's terror attack. also a scuffle breaks out during a donald trump rally in alabama last night. we will have details on why the protesters were throwing punches. first, this week's culinary journey takes us to london to meet up with a uk chef. >> this chef is on the streets of london to set out on a s culinary journey.
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>> the point of traveling is because you learn. when you travel with your eyes and your -- and your ears open, you can learn from other people. >> reporter: he is off to meet a culinary icon who has changed the city. >> i can't wait to meet my friend. ferguson has given me great ideas and purely energy. >> the british chef is known by a name known with italy, the d godfather. he is regarded as the godfather so it's fitting that two meet at a market. smithfield market is one of london's oldest and busiest markets. people have been buying meat here over 800 years and expanded. every year, more than a hundred thousand tons of meat pass
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through these gates. >> this little piggy went to the market. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> that's right. >> reporter: with bones in hand, it's a short walk back to ferguson's restaurant which has been established in the shadow of smithfield market for 20 years. >> to me, when i walk into st. john it is so different but so similar in a way and a happy way of thinking. i feel at home. you know? i feel comfortable. you know? they have the same mentality. >> watch the full show at cnn.com/journeys. we will be right back. vo: know you have a dedicated
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