this is cnn breaking news. >> take back their land and cut off on their financing and we will hunt down their leadership. we will dismantle their networks and their supply lines and we will ultimately destroy them. >> tough words from president obama against isis calling them, this is a quote, killers with good social media. and vowing to dismantle that network, as you heard. in the meantime, brussels is still on lockdown for day number

two as a planned security meeting now with officials is now pushed back. >> good morning. i'm victor blackwell. >> i'm christi paul. good to have you on board here. let's start with the president who rhetoric is ratcheting up when talking about isis. his message is you will be destroyed. >> that was at a news conference in kuala lumpur just a few hours ago. jim acosta hkocosta has the lat us. >> reporter: president obama said at a news conference the u.s. will destroy the terror group, but he continued to make the case he has argued throughout this foreign trip that the world should not overreact the battle against terrorism. >> good afternoon, everybody. >> reporter: overseas for more than a week, but well aware of a fearful nation back home, president obama sounded more

like a leader at war. >> our coal lirks wicoalition w relent. destroying isis is not only a realistic goal, we are going to get it done and we are going to pursue it with every aspect of american power and with all of the coalition partners that we have assembled. it's going to get done. >> reporter: at a news conference in malaysia, the president once again defended his strategy for defeating isis but instead of brushing off questions about his policy as he did last weeks, he acknowledged americans are deeply worried. >> we are not afraid. to not elevate, to somehow buy into their fantasy that they are doing something important. they are a bunch of killers, and we fight them and we beat them.

>> reporter: the president said he just may be able to join forces with russian president vladimir putin to wipe out the terror group, after the attacks in paris and on metro jet airliner. >> i discussed with president putin in a brief pull-aside, his need to recognize that he needs to go after the people who killed russian citizens. >> reporter: and he called on americans to show compassion to the thousands of syrian refuges he wants to welcome into the u.s., despite poll numbers showing americans are resistant to the idea. >> refuges who end up in the united states are the most vetted scrutinized, thoroughly investigated individuals that ever arrive on american shores. >> reporter: the president also appeared to have choice words for donald trump. >> i want surveillance of these people. >> reporter: and the gop front-runner's proposals to conduct more surveillance on muslims in the u.s.

>> we must absolutely reject that we are somehow at war with an entire religion. prejudice and discrimination helps isil. >> reporter: knocked back on his heels was widely panned the somewhat cerebral president ended this foreign trip speaking from the gut, urging americans to avoid giving into fear. >> hello! how are you all doing? >> reporter: a point he punctuated with a stop to a refuge center in malaysia. >> if you are a parent and you saw those kids and thought about what they had gone through, the notion we couldn't find a home for them anywhere in the united states of america? that's -- that is contrary to our values. the most powerful tool we have to fight isil is to say that we

are not afraid. >> reporter: as soon as the president returns to washington, he is scheduled to welcome french president francois holla hollande with a war on is sis a the question is will president obama join him? major european cities on high alert because of those terrorism attacks. frederik pleitgen is leading our coverage there live this morning. hi, fred. >> hi, guys. you're absolutely right. this morning, it is 1:00 p.m. in the afternoon here actually. paris on high alert but it is a beautiful fall day and people are still coming out to the make-shift memorial here on place de la republique.

paris is concerned about safety here and brussels as well. brussels remains mostly shuddered for a second day running. people staying off the streets and away from public gatherings. the subway system is still closed as a security meeting, that was scheduled for this morning, has now been pushed back to this afternoon local time. our own drew griffin is live in brussels. drew, is there any indication of what this meeting was supposed to bring and why it was pushed back? >> the meeting was supposed to be an evaluation of this threat level, threat level four, which caused basically the shutdown of public facilities here in brussels. we do not know why it's been pushed back to five. it may just be a logistic thing. at the same time, we are seeing not a decrease but increase in security measures. we got a tweet from the emergency center a half hour

ago, that anybody taking a railway train should be at the railway station at least 30 minutes prior to boarding of the train because of new security measures there. the police and the soldiers continue to walk the streets and many, many, many of public facilities are closed, many of the restaurants are closed, the bars are closed. anywhere where there are large groups of people that would have gathered, that is what the prime minister says we need to not have at this time in brussels until this current threat is over with. fred? >> that is pretty incredible, you're saying they are tweeting you information for people to come to railway stations earlier because of the security situation. how do people deal with that? brussels? normally, on a sunday with weather the way it is, you know, people would be out on the street and people would be going out. >> reporter: yeah. well, you do see people walking the streets and there are some

shops open but not that many. i think people are dealing with this much better on a cold sunday than they will on a busy monday. there is a 50/50 chance, according to the education minister who spoke to a newspaper, that schools may be closed tomorrow. so all these evaluations have to take place. like i said, there's not a lot of panic. certainly no panic at all. and there is not a lot of complaining, but this is sunday. it is cold. i think people are just, you know, taking everything in stride. i think it will be a much different tale to tell if people wake up in this city tomorrow and the metro is still closed, the buses are still on limited duty, and many public restaurants and facilities are closed. fred? >> drew, you know, we have been talking about this ever since you got to brussels, about the fact it seems that the belgian intelligence services seem to be playing catch-up and they missed a lot of things.

the area of molenbeak. do you get a sense they are going to fundamentally crack down harder on the extremists they have in that country and the weapons pipeline that has been going through there? >> i think absolutely. this was a wake-up call. not just because of this this terrorist attack but so many ties to the neighborhood you spoke of molenbeek. it's been linked to a half a dozen terror attacks in europe. all coming here either terrorists coming to buy their weapons there or plotting there, or just simply being from there. molenbeek has a high concentration of young youth and the belgian foreign fighters

have gone to syria and come back, 130 of them and 85 live in molen beek. the interior minister actually said he would like to do a house-to-house, maybe not search, but more akin to a count, a number count of people that live there just to get a handle on how big a problem it is, who is living in molenbeek. they don't know. there is intense scrutiny played out here in brussels as they give more money, more attention to this counterterror intelligence information gathering. fred? >> drew griffin, thanks for your insight there on on the streets of brussels on this early sunday afternoon local time. also new this morning, we have shocking images of the paris apartment where a third unidentified terror suspect blew himself up during that raid that, of course, led to the

killing of the alleged ring leader of the paris attackers. take a look at these images from the paris suburb of st. denis. rooms are simply absolutely covered in debris. police say entire floors of that building were destroyed and a whole ceiling blown off during that massive blast that occurred. plus, reuters is reporting the ring leader's brother has been arrested in morocco. he was one of the people that led to the information that led to the important raid there in st. denis. atikatione you were there and y probably understand why the apartment looks the way it was. >> 5,000 rounds of ammunition fired there in the battle there.

s.w.a.t. teams and it was an extensive operation. i think what caused most of that damage frankly were the control debt nations to sort of clear the area and that is probably what collapsed the floor, he will, and the ceiling on one of the apartments. >> because they were afraid still exploited order dinances. >> the wrorbrother of the alleg ring leader what do we know about him and what sort of information he might be giving to the authorities? >> reporter: it is interesting. he was arrested a month ago in morocco. it's not clear why he was arrested but he's been in custody. when the paris attacks happened, morocco said let's take a look at the unusual suspects and see

what we got. they realized from information from abdelhamid had crossed over into paris. the tip-off and the information they needed to know that the ring leader was here. >> moroccan intelligence they said gave them the tip-off to the apartment? >> they gave him the tip-off and from there they traced the cell phone of his cousin. >> who was with him in the apartment? >> she was with him in the apartment and she was wanted for minor drug offenses so they already had a tap of her phone and they made the link. >> salah abdeldeslam is still one of the attackers still on the loose. we are learning more about his escape. what is it? >> reporter: we are not sure exactly what happened but it looks as though he may have been intended to carrying kaout an attack on the 18th district. he parked a car there and went

dark. several hours later he called two friends from belgium, come pick me up, which they did. according to his lawyer that described what happened he got in the car and seemed nervous but he didn't have any weapons but a bulky coat on. they believe he had an explosives belt or suicide vest underneath but they were stopped three times by police. he was calm throughout. you can imagine the kind of situation they must have been in. >> absolutely. thanks shech. still to come, president obama's strongest words yet against isis. is what he said enough to stop the criticism he has been receiving over the past couple of days and past couple of months? plus inside the isis propaganda machine. the message is as important as the violence. new details about this group and the access it gets. that's coming up. it's more than a network and the cloud.

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>> reaslisten to president obam >> they are a bunch of killers with good social media. and they are dangerous and they have caused great hardship to people. joining us is eric bradner. i want to talk about the criticism the president has faced just hours before the attack in paris saying that isis had been contained. are we hearing something new in the content here? or is it solely the tone that is changing? >> it's really the tone. what republicans on the presidential campaign trail have been criticizing is that president obama hasn't changed his strategy. he hasn't announced any sort of new approach or ramped up attacks, a swell of new ground

troops, anything along those lines. their criticism is he sort of lecturing americans on how to react to these paris attacks and other attacks. and this is certainly a change in tone. responding to the criticism that he has heard over the last couple of days. but, victor, there is no real change in strategy here and that is what he has been criticized over on the presidential campaign trail lately. >> so there is a difficult balance here, the president has to strike. he acknowledged that he doesn't want to elevate them, doesn't want to call a mastermind here but he has to walk this thin line to not underestimate them rhetorically as he called them a bunch of killers with good social media but they have accomplished much more than taking lives but taken a live swath of land. >> exactly. his argument there is a difference between actually being in the oval office and being the president and being on

the compare trail where if you'll remember he was a big critic of a law enforcement measures and he hasn't been able to roll back entirely back in 2008. the president is arguing there is a different responsibility level here. he is arguing that the united states' strategy is working and that attacks, like the one in paris, are sort of, if not one off events, at least certainly not the kinds of events that require a wholesale change in strategy. evidence of that is his insistence that the united states stick with its plan on accepting 10,000 syrian refuges next year and it has come under a lot of criticism lately, especially from republicans like donald trump, jeb bush, marco rubio, but the president has sort of said that it's about american values, keeping those values and that that is the best sort of antidote to these terror

attacks and isis. >> the president talked about the wildcard in this situation which often is russia and if president putin will become more involved with the coalition in fighting isis terrorists, instead of focus primarily on supporting assad. from the president's words overnight it doesn't seem he has made that case to sway putin. >> absolutely right. it sounds like the united states and russia are not yet on the same page. the president was still sort of applying pressure on putin, but not indicating that the two countries had found a way to work together. obviously, it's bashar al assad is the divisive point here and russia is supporting him and the united states wants him out. the two countries that are fighting isis can't seem to get on the same page with that problem hanging over them. now, what can be done about that, whether there is a way to

cooperate, at least in part, remains to be seen. but, no, the president's rhetoric has not changed. he has been doing these international meetings for several days now and big foreign trip and not come to any sort of resolution with russia that will change the strategy and have the two countries working on the same page. >> we will see if that changes after the admission a bomb they took down the 9628 flight a couple of weeks ago and 50 million reward put up by the russian government for the people who placed it there. eric bradner, thank you very much. >> thank you. more breaking news out of mali. 22 people dead from that attack and we are learning there may be word of a possible motive. we will let you know what we have heard. when your cold makes you wish... ...you could stay... ...in bed all day... ...you need the power of... new theraflu expressmax.

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new details and developments right now in the deadly hotel attack in mali. 22 people were killed on friday including one american. cnn has new details about a possible motive. cnn's david mckenzie is live outside the radisson blu hotel in mali. what are you learning, david? >> reporter: what we are learning from our sources on the ground here is that motive of this al qaeda-linged group and one other group has claimed responsibility of this attack is because, in fact, of the local situation in mali. you may see a u.n. vehicle passing past me.

they are investigators on the scene trying to get forensic evidence together. there were peace talks going on at the time of this attack and they were trying to derail the peace talks here in this country. mali has been cut in two in recent years because of islamic jihadists pushing in and trying to take the capital similar to the situation of isis in iraq and syria. it seems this was try to derail a local issue here, though, by getting attention of westerners in the hotel, they certainly were able to kind of put their gender on the map. >> i'm wondering what survivors are saying about this new news. >> well, they are saying this was a horrible event that unfolded at 7:00 a.m. in the morning on friday. we spoke to a man who worked here and saw the gunmen coming in and, in fact, looked him in the eye as he passed by. he was wearing blue shirt, a cap, jeans, and had a

kalashnikov rifle and shooting at anyone that moved. people tried to move out of the area into the service elevator but stuck at that point and the gunman came in and shot at them. many people were able to get into their rooms and barricade themselves in as the gunman moved through the hotel. and the response by the security services appears to be pretty swift. somalians coming in with assistance from america and french and belgians and others were able to clear this hotel of the gunman -- >> we apologize. having technical difficulties there. president obama calls isis killers with good social media but it's more like a media machine. this terror group has slick videos and magazines and highly effective at spreading the online message there. we are learning more about the process here and the access isis gives its propaganda producers.

this is cnn breaking news. welcome back to our ongoing coverage of the aftermath of the paris terror attacks. the investigation that is now spreading europe wide and europe is on the edge, as major cities stare down threats from isis. paris is still reeling after the terror attacks that left 130 people dead. the country is under a state of emergency that is likely to last for several months. meanwhile, an international manhunt is targeting building man, salah abdeslam.

brussels remains under a virtual lockdown on. its residents barred from taking the subway and told to stay away from large public gatherings as well. the security meeting planned for this afternoon has been delayed. and we also have new information on isis and how the terror network spreads its propaganda. you've seen their videos threaten jihad on other nations but who are the people behind these professional videos? let's bring in a journalist with "the washington post" and she just co-authored an article with greg miller on how these videos are made. first of all, i want to ask you about your research. what kind of impis dguys did yo to and who made these videos? >> we actually talked to, on one hand, defectors and some of those defectors were in prison

in morocco but others were in different countries. but we were also able to talk to some members of isis and double-check with them what we have learned from the defectors. now if talk about the media secti section, this came as a surprise, fred. some of the senior media operators are treated as equal rank to the military counterparts. what all of these people told us, the people that we interviewed over various months, is that media, the media war is to isis as important as the military war. >> that certainly is very important as well. i also want to get into the logistics how these videos are made. what did you find there and what shocked you most in your research? >> we in the west have seen some of the, like, brutal scenes of things that isis has put out there. what we have learned there is also some kind of other

propaganda and internal propaganda. they are filming happy faces and people are going to markets and they show all of these videos. the brutal ones and the happy faces ones, on very large screens inside the so-called caliphate. you asked me what have we learned about the production. we have learned, this came as a very big surprise, that public beheadings on staged and also to a certain extent choreographed. we describe one scene of a public beheading where one of the defectors we talked to said the media crew would show up basically and hold up cue cards for this official who was supposed to read and announce the sentence of this condemned man. then they were doing multiple takes asking this executioner,

for example, to raise and lower his sword over and over again so that they could take the right angle or get this take from different angles. and only after the media team said that they were ready and had all of the takes the way they wanted them, the executioner executed the man. this is actually something we have never heard before. >> wow. thank you very much for that information. very important. also, of course, plays into what the president said today at that news conference in malaysia where he said these are kills with good social media. thank you again for that story in "the washington post." i encoring everyone to read that story and it will open a lot of people's eye. a lot more to come on cnn. opening up for the first time. the band members of the american rock band eagles of death metal describe what it was like inside the paris concert hall where 89 people lost their lives and more

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welcome back to our ongoing komp coverage from paris. we are hearing this morning more from the american rock band whose concert was targeted by terrorists during the paris attacks. two eagles of death metal band mates are detailing what happened inside the bataclan concert hall. listen to jesse hughes as he describes as an interview he

did. >> several people hid in our dressing room. and killers able to get in and kill every one of them, except a kid hiding under my leather jacket. >> reporter: killers got in your dressing room. >> yeah. people were playing dead. they were so scared. great reason why so many were killed is because so many people wouldn't leave their friends. so and so many people put themselves in front of people. >> certainly some shocking and very emotional words there coming from jesse hughes. a reminder that 89 of the paris attacks, 130 deaths, were right there at band's concert that, of course, happened just a little over a week ago. now following the tragic events of november 13th, paris is beginning its return to normalcy or at least it's trying to begin its return. on the streets, there is music being played once again with bands defiant of the growing

security. the city lights may have been dimmed down for a moment of grief, but it seems the once vibrant scenes are slowly starting to come back. want to talk more about this with the chief editor of a newspaper. what do you think right now? is paris trying to come back to normal? where are we in that process? >> walking around here we have a true feeling what is going on in paris and immense feeling of grief and sorrow and i think they want to live up to the expectation of the whole world. they are being very sensitive to the treatment of the whole world and want to prove that paris is a city of light. >> there are still concerns, aren't there? we were walking around the christmas market, for instance. a lot of people guarding it but very few people going to the market. >> absolutely. the numbers we got from the authority yesterday very few people went to the department stores yesterday. trying to get it back to normal but not the case.

we are seeing a sense of patriotism. people want to hug themselves. they want to give a feeling of fraternity. actually was curious will reading the origins of the french flag. the french flag was liberty. after 1770, they were very proud of carrying this flag and the colors because they were the colors from liberty from the united states [ inaudible ]. >> this is a grand nation. always has been. it is also now a nation that finds itself on the forefront of terror. what role on is france going to play? in the past america and russia doing a lot and france coming along for the ride. but it's different now? >> in the past so many times the world war has been pronounces.

the war doesn't last two or three days but a war can last for years. now i think there is a feeling among the french people where the fear, the feeling of fear and the feeling -- what will this war look like? what you've seen in africa the last three or four days means france is engaged on two fronts. a front in africa and syria. french government will they manage to wage this war on these two fronts? >> the front here at home as well. what do people think about the reactions that need to happen as far as the war on terror here is concerned, as far as social measures are concerned but integrating the population you have here. >> i think this is a main difference with the events of january. certainly, a wake-up call. the wake-up call we are seeing that so many provinces are at rest and we base our rezoning on moral ideas and realities. what is going on in some suburbs

and some districts. we have seen young people disenfranchised from the society who are to some propaganda taken some some kind of sect without control from the government and anything has to do with the values of the french society. this is a main challenge for the french government and also the others challenged on the home front is the intelligence service. the french intelligence service has been reformed the last three or four years, at the same time, this reform was not complete. you can see, you will hear in the days to come what happened in paris on february -- or on friday, the 13th, was a failure, a failure from the intelligence community. how come we let commando of men being on the french soil when we thought they were in syria? this is on the front and the main challenge for the french government francois hollande is

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major european cities are on high alert because of threats from isis. barack obama has this message for the terrorist. he said you will be destroyed. >> the president spoke at the news conference in kuala lumpur a few hours ago sharpening his tone on isis and promising to tyke out the terror group. >> we will not accept the idea that terrorist assaults on restaurants and theaters and motels are the new normal. or that we are powerless to stop them. that's what terrorists like isil want. ultimately, that's the only way they can win. that's the nature of terrorism. they can't beat us on the battle field so they try to terrorize

us into being afraid. into changing our patterns of behavior. into panicking and to retreating from the world. as president, i will not let that happen. even as we destroy isil on the battle field, and we will destroy them, we will take back land they are currently in. we will cut off their financing, we will hunt down their leadership. we will dismantle their networks and their supply lines and we will ultimately destroy them even as we're in the process of doing that we want to make sure that we don't lose our own values and our own principles. >> enat president cautioned against elevating this group. he called them, quote, a bunch of killers with good social

media. we'll take a closer look at the president's comments in a couple of minutes. first, the latest on the terror threat in europe. fred, good morning. what are you learning this morning? >> reporter: good morning christi and victor. it's a beautiful afternoon here in paris. 2:00 p.m. here in europe. and there are several strands of the investigation that were following and, of course, the security situation in europe's specially in belgium at this point in time. now brussels, the capital of belgium is on the edge this morning. the streets still mostly clear. as police are on patrol, the subway system also remains shuttered for a second day running. as a security meeting scheduled for this afternoon has been delayed. our own drew griffin has been in brussels since last tuesday. let's talk about the security meeting, first. it was supposed to have been taking place. it has been pushed back. do we know why? what are they going to talk about? >> we don't know why yet.

the meeting was to figure out what the threat should be. should it remain at the high level. should the facilities remain closed including the metro, which they announced an hour ago will remain closed through the rest of this day. they need to decide what is going to happen tomorrow with schools, with the public facilities, with caves, bars, all that kind of stuff. that was the meeting that was supposed to take place. it's been pushed back. there have been some increased security measures announced. railway stations passengers should arrive 30 minutes prior to the train. we continue to see a heavy presence of military and police here on the streets. fred? >> reporter: yeah, drew. it's a great point you make. the security measures are a nuisance to people on a weekend. but during a weekday they are something that inhibits the country from functioning. how are people on the streets there reacting to this?

>> well, they're just kind of taking it in stride trying to find the places that are open that they can visit. otherwise just going about their day best they can. there's no sense of panic. people are on the street. they're out here with their children. there are bikers out here. as you'll see, there are some areas of the town that look like a ghost town. >> this is one of the street that is usually filled with caves and people walking in the pedestrian way. today this is completely empty. who do you see on the street? you can see them patrolling soldiers. they're everywhere in brussels on this sunday. this is the biggest inconvenience. the metro is completely closed. you can see behind me here they have the tape that was covering it. people know not to go down there. metro closed. doors pretty much locked below there. if you look up here, again, a

huge street should be teeming with people and there's just a few people walking around. certainly not the crowds you would expect to see on this preholiday sunday here in the capital city of belgium. not everything is dismal and not everything is shut down. the famous chocolate shops are opening now. there are tourists out trying to enjoy the day. if you come here to the main plaza of the old city, you'll see they are setting up the christmas tree and the christmas decorations. the christmas market is due to open on this coming friday. people of brussels are just hoping this threat level and tension will certainly be over by then so they can light the tree and get on with the holiday season. >> reporter: fred, what we're not being told and what everybody does want to know is what is the threat. what inspired the shut down of the city, and whom we should be

looking for. none of that has developed yesterday through today. officials are just saying be patient. you will know when you need to know. fred? >> reporter: yeah, hopefully we'll find out more when we get to that security meeting. of course, that is set to take place around 5:00 p.m. local time. 11:00 a.m. eastern. thank you for keeping an eye on the situation in brussels. there's also a lot going on around here in paris. new this morning we have shocking images of the paris apartment where a third unidentiu unidentified terror suspect blew himself up. you can see the smashed walls and the pocked walls from bullet holes and rooms covered in debris. plus, we're getting a clear picture of suspect salah abdesl abdeslam's escape after the attacks. we'll bring in our correspondent to talk about it. you were at the apartment as the

raid was going on. you saw how violent it got. it can't be a surprise how the apartment looks. >> no. the gun battle is extensive. you can see it from the large bullet holes. several inches large. i think it was the controlled detonations that caused most of the damage. you see the windows blown in. you see the roof collapsed. floor in one apartment and that was because police were exploding what they believed might be more detonations that they would be bobby trapping the apartment, essentially. that caused most the damage. that makes it difficult for forensic investigators of what was going on in the apartment and who was in the apartment. they don't have a name for the third person. >> we know that the alleged ring leader abaaoud was there. we know his female companion -- relative was there. there's been a lo the of focus

on what did you learn about her? you dug into her past a little bit? >> she remains very much a mystery. at first police said she was the one that detonated the suicide vest. they say she was likely not. she's not somebody who is known for running around in the y jihadist circles. her neighbors said she was fun loving. liked party. perhaps volatile but didn't lead that life at all. smoke, drank, danced a lot. she was being followed for drug offenses. that's how they were able to trace her to abaaoud and how eventually they found their way. >> they were monitoring her communications. it will be interesting to see when and how quickly she got radicalized. thank you for joining us this morning. still to come this morning, using some of his strongest language yet president obama said isis will be destroyed. sending a strong message to the

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welcome back everyone to our coverage here from paris on the aftermath of the terror attacks. of course, the ongoing europe-wide and indeed worldwide information. overnight we heard the strongest words yet from president obama

when it comes to the war on isis. the president says that we will destroy isis and that the most powerful tool to fight the terrorists and extremist group is to prevent them from injecting fear into communities around the world. he also said this regarding the group. >> they're a bunch of killers with good social media, and they are dangerous and they've caused great hardship to people. >> reporter: i want to discuss this cnn military analyst cedric layton and with us is david toforia. what do you make of the president's comments in malaysia? >> it's great he's saying he's going to step up and do more to fight isis. that's important. the question is what is he going to do? i spent a lot of time in iraq. i was in iraq, again, last

month. in northern iraq went to the peshmerga bases. he's not doing much to support the forces on the ground, especially the kurdish forces which is fighting isis everyday. what is he going to do more than what he's doing now? the air strikes are definitely works. he needs to do more supporting the forces on the ground on in iraq and syria to fight isis or have to put more boots on the ground. he hasn't said which of those things he's going to do. let's wait and see what it is his plan is for taking the fight to isis and a more substantial way. >> and you've been here in paris over the past couple of days. it seems like the entire game has shifted for the french. i mean, on the one hand before, they were one of the nations supporting the u.s. but now they are center stage in taking lead

role. do you think they'll do that especially with the aircraft carrier almost in place now? >> i think it's going to be one of the areas where is it going to be show or substance? and when you see what they've got, you know, with the charles segal aircraft carrier is clearly a show of force. the question becomes can the french sustain the effort? how are they going to work with not only the united states but also with russia in projecting their power into syria. these are the different things that are going to be part of this. if we look back at this, we have to say how effective is the president's strategy going to be? the u.s. president's strategy in terms of decapitating isil if we have the different players in place if we're reluctant to put forces on the ground. >> one of the things, also from the president that i think surprised people. how emotional he was when it

came to the debate about syrian refugees coming to the u.s. i want to listen to the sound bytes from that. from what he said. >> my hope, though, now we've got some time to catch our breath and take a look at this carefully people understand that refugees who end up in the united states are the most vetted, scrutinize d, thoroughl investigated individuals that ever arrive on american shores. >> david, what do you make of what he said on the refugee issue? >> he's absolutely right there. there's this misinformation about refugees. if you look at the statistics very few have engaged in terror plots. we've had 785,000 people come through the refugee resettlement program since 9/11. only three have been arrested

for terror. none were syrians and none commit mid terrorist acts. he's right. the vetting process for the refugee settlement program is working. there are other good things, some positives for the u.s. that come out of the refugee resettlement program. it helps people who help the us on the ground in countries like syria and iraq. for instance, when i was in iraq we helped a couple of iraqis who helped us and endangered their lives by helping americans get resettled to the u.s. it was a reward for good service for the u.s. we want to continue program like that incentivize people around the world especially in conflict zones to help the americans. the president is right to be emotional about it and defend the program. >> david tafuri and david lehighton, thank you. >> we'll have more on the ongoing situation in paris and brussels and the heightened terror alert you have in

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of national security. >> and i understand you have a big exclusive coming up with former defense secretary chuck hagel. >> that's right. when he resigned, shortly before he resigned or pushed out, he wrote a pointed memo, we understand, to the administration criticizing the white house's syria policy. we'll find out more about the memo, more about his disagreements with the white house on syria, and of course, what he thinks should be done now to combat the threat of isis. >> jake tapper, looking forward to it. thank you so much. "state of the union" with jake tapper starts at the top of the hour on cnn. a quick break and we'll be back.

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