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bloodshed and horror this evening in colorado springs. i'm brianna keilar in washington with breaking news. a gunman that opened fire inside of a planned parenthood facility and battled police for hours has been captured alive and officials are now saying two people are dead. that is just in now to cnn. at least 11 people including five officers have been wounded, but officials say they still don't have a final count of victims. they are trying to ascertain if there are more people inside of the building and have barely begun to process the crime scene. nearby shops, businesses, a
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hospital there were put on lockdown. many people who were hiding throughout this ordeal for hours as gunshots rang out. our correspondents, analysts and guests have full coverage of the fast-moving story. let's get the latest from brian todd. who are you learning? >> brianna, at this hour police are carefully processing this scene at the planned parenthood facility looking for additional possible casualties inside, not clear how many, if any, there are but as bshe said, they got o look for explosives. police say the suspect brought items into the building with him at the start of a very tense few hours. the first calls came in at midday, a man with a long gun had entered the planned parenthood facility in colorado springs and opened fire. he repeatedly engaged police with gunfire injuring officers on the scene. >> when i heard the lone shot ring out, which i had suspected was a high-powered rifle of some
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sort due to the loudness of it in the snow and everything. >> reporter: the standoff played out for more than five hours, the surrounding area put on lockdown. police didn't know the suspect's name and had difficulty making contact with him. they were concerned he brought in explosive devices. then a dramatic announcement from the colorado springs police. >> and the officers were able to shout to the suspect and make communication with him and at that point, they were able to get him to surrenderer. >> reporter: a man was seen in handcuffs, it's not clear if he was the suspect. the main security threat tonight. >> the individual brought some items into him, into the building with him and that we have to work with our eod units, explosive ordinance units. >> reporter: police say the suspect brought the items in bags and something was left in the front of the building. city officials in colorado springs say this is now what they call a huge crime scene. they don't know exactly how many
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victims there are, as we've been reporting. they are combing through the building. it will take hours, possibly several days to process the scene and at least two people dead according to the colorado attorney general. >> that just in. thank you so much. we want to get to cnn national correspondent kyung lah who has been working this story all afternoon into the evening. what is the latest you're hearing? >> they first need to id the suspect and figure out what his motivations are. that is the part that will be just as important as sweeping the building and clearing that trying to make sure everyone stays safe but why? why did this happen? why did he go in there with that long gun and terrorize this community? let's remind everybody, this is a black friday. a lot of people were in this shopping district. not only were there patients and medical staff inside planned parenthood but about a dozen businesses around it. we spent most of the day talking to many people, whether
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customers or employees. some heard from ten to 20 shots. they at some points didn't know where the gunfire was coming from but police knew. they knew that there was an unpredictable gunman with that long gun engaging officers. we don't know if police ever fired anything but we know he fired on them and that turning point brian was talking about where they were able to convince him to surrenderer. the law enforcement has to figure out what was going on inside this man's mind, brianna? >> kyung lah for us. i want to turn to cnn justice correspondent pamela brown has been focussed on the federal response. we know president obama has been briefed. give us the rundown here on all of the agencies that have been involved. >> well, it was a huge response. federal agents flooded that area where the crime scene is from the fbi swat teams and evidence response teams to atf, the entire office went to respond to
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that scene including the special agent in charge, which is something you don't always see in these cases and they were there to provide backup and support in case the teams that were in the building, the swat teams from the local police fatigued and they needed extra help but also, brianna, we're learning more details about what happened inside of that building, of that planned parenthood building when the gunman was in there. according to the scanner traffic, the gunman was walking through the hallways and offi officers were able to keep an eye on him and track his movement through remote video feeds from security cameras inside the building. also, according to this, there were people hiding in a safe room in the building. a room where you have to have a certain id to gain access. there was a swat room they were trying to rescue the people inside but at one point it was such a tedious situation because
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the gunman was near the safe room so they were trying to decide whether to shoot or not because the concern was he would hurt others. there was one point they were trying to rescue a victim and the gunman was 40 feet away from the victim ex they were also in the moment trying to make tough decisions what to do and brings you into the intense crisis scenario that was playing out there and after these five hours, brianna, as we know, the gunman surrendered, which is something that surprised some law enforcement officials that i've been speaking to, after all of this and the gunman brings in an ak-47 and shoots at officers, shoots at civilians and injured people but after all of this and a propane tank and other items they are investigating, after this he surrenderers. the question is why, why did this happen and the investigation in the building still very active. as i said, they are looking at the items going from room to
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room to see. >> i want to bring in cnn legal analyst and cedric alexander and joey, to you first, this process now turns into of usually an investigation. this will turn into a legal case and we're trying to pin down some information about how many victims actually passed away. we understand actually just a moment. i'm hearing the attorney general is saying there is a tragic loss of life. we have not confirmed the moment at this tile. we're looking to get the detail. at this point, what is the next step, joey? >> this is what will happen. our collective hearts break for that community, for the two we believe to be dead and everyone injured in harm's way. now the prosecutor has a job to do and the prosecutor has a
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decision in terms of how it's going to be prosecuted. you have the option in colorado for the death penalty, however, i should hasten to add as the prosecution moves forward, one person in 40 years has been executed there and you might recall the aurora colorado shooter, holms killed 12 and 70 injured and he didn't get the death penalty and so the issue is going to be, you know, prosecuting it, getting aull th investigative materials together and the federal law enforcement, fbi, atf and there will be a coordinated effort to term the motivation. did the shooter act alone? this preplotted and planned? is there a trail that can give clues or insight into the state of mind? were there any mental health or other issues involved? the prosecutor moving forward will want to identify the issues so he can bring them forth in front of a jury before getting there, though, we'll certainly
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see a grand jury convened and at that point the prosecutor will identify the specific charges and victims and then of course will come up with the charges and he'll have his day in court and we will all learn who what his motivations are, why he did this today allegedly and exactly what happened. >> all right. thank you so much joey jackson. i want to get more with vicki coward, the ceo of planned parenthood of the rocky mountains. >> caller: that's correct. >> thank you for joining me and i know we read your statement earlier on the air. can you tell us at this point do you know how many civilians, whether that be patients or whether that be staff inside the clinic were injured or killed in the attack? >> caller: we don't have knowledge who has been injured and killed. we know all of our staff, we believe, are accounted for.
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we are still reaching out to confirm individual, how they are. i believe no one of our staff was severely injured. i also believe at this time that none of our patients were injured in this event. >> so you believe that none of your patients were injured, none of your staff were injured? >> that is my understanding at this time but as i said, we are literally going down the list of names to verify. as you know, it's been an awfully chaotic afternoon. we have our security director on site with the colorado springs police in their control center and she was working closely with them. we're now trying to get verification that everybody is okay from our staff and from our patients. >> what is unclear at this point, vicki, but a lot of people are speculating about is the motive that this shooter possessed to go in with a long
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gun and really hold siege to the clinic. you hinted in your statement earlier saying that you felt that extremist in america were creating a poisonous environment that feeds domestic terrorism in this country. do you believe this clinic was targeted and is there something that leads you to believe that? >> we have no reason to believe that this center was targeted for anything at all and what i want to stress is planned parenthood across the nation and in particularly planned parenthood of the rocky mountains has an excellent safety record. we saw today great, great cooperation from the local law enforcement and i know several different agencies involved with that and they were taking great care. we're very pleased that our own security systems were operating at topnotch. our staff were able to monitor our internal cameras and actually assist the local law
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enforcement folks to understand what was happening inside the center as it was happening. these were live feeds and i want to particularly note our staff and managers did the right thing. they got in the safe room. they were able to hunker down and some got out early throughout the afternoon but those that didn't were in a safe spot. >> it really is amazing they were able to hunker down and what you believe to be true, no patients, no staff were killed in this. they were able to remain safe. this attacker was able to get inside the clinic. is that something you'll look at when you consider changes to security? >> caller: yes, absolutely. we have -- as i said, we have
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cameras. we can see where he came in and how. we'll have to figure out exactly how he broke the perimeter. we have to keep an armed person from just walking into the facility but we don't know exactly yet how he did obtain an entrance to the location. again, the way it happened once he was in, we are reassured our systems were working to keep our people safe. >> and i hear you stressing the safety record. it makes me wonder, are you worry that some people who would consider using the services that planned parenthood provides, that they would be discouraged to do so in the aftermath of this? >> caller: i'll not particularly worried about that. people know and trust planned parenthood and know we put their interest first and advocate for them and care for them. we were there today providing well woman exams, doing the
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important breast checks and cancer screening, life-saving work we do every day and we will be doing that again tomorrow. we won't have that facility open tomorrow, but the rest of our operations will be operating carefully, but being there for our patients. >> vicki, do you have any sense of who this suspect might be? >> i do not. i do not know who he is. i haven't heard a name yet and as i said, we did not receive any threats in advance. we don't know what his motivation is so can't really speculate as to whether we were the specific target, so we'll just have to like everybody, wait and see how the investigations roll out. >> all right. vicki, thank you so much. vicki wcowens. i want to bring in art roderick
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now. i saw you nodding your head as she was detailing she doesn't think any of the staff or patients were among the casualties, but it sounds like there was a loss of life so we're trying to pin down the details on that. >> right. i think it's interesting as we know over the past 20 years, planned parenthood facilities have been targeted at different times and i recall when i was a marshal, we went out and did security assessments at different clinics that received threats. it's good to go ahead and build safe houses in the clinics that of usually saved lives here. if it wasn't for the safe house, i'm sure we would have had a few more fatalities. >> but he managed to get in, right? >> he managed to get in, correct. >> that's supposed to be the first line of defense is right, normally, i know you're probably familiar with some security measures, supposed to be a secure entrance, especially to
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planned parenthood facilities that provide services because they are controversial. something happened there. >> absolutely. i'm sure there will be threat assessments done on the facility and looking at this individual's social network, social media stuff to find out if he had threatened the facility or if there is anything of that sort. that does seem odd that the first line of defense he was able to breach fairly easily. >> they will look at that. art standing by with the rest of the panel of law enforcement and security experts. i want to reset what has happened here in the last hour. this suspect surrendered himself to police. he was actually taken into custody unharmed. we do know from colorado officials that there has been what is described as a tragic loss of life. planned parenthood saying that they don't believe that any of their staff or patients are among the casualties. they believe that they are accounted for but at this point police are dealing with an active crime scene. this shooter they say brought in
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the gunman is in custody. at least five officers were injured and at least 11 people were taken to hospitals. at this moment as we speak police are sweeping that building for more possible victims, for hostages, for explosives because this suspect did bring in a number of items and there is certainly a concern these could be explosive devices. i want to get the latest on this breaking news from colorado springs. denver post reporter jesse paul is there on the ground. jesse, first off, just give us a sense of how this in the last hour came to at least a partial resolution with this gunman surrendering to police. >> well, we don't know quite all the details. mayor john southerns came out and said basically he was in the command post and seen officers using a camera device to locate a suspect, a gunman inside of the planned parenthood office and from there they were able to go in and get him. in terms of the details of how
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that interaction actually played out, we don't know those. >> are you hearing any more information who this suspect might be? >> no, absolutely not. police have said all throughout today that they didn't even know 100% who the person was. he has been in custody probably for an hour now but we haven't heard from them any more details who this guy was. >> tell us about the scene -- i want to interrupt this interview for a moment. we're getting new information that one colorado springs officer has died in this shooting. this is the colorado fraternal order of police that has tweeted that one of these officers shot today during the active shooter incident in colorado springs has died. we heard from planned parenthood that they believe their staff, they believe their patients had been safe and so now we know what the colorado attorney general meant by a loss of life there. if we can go back to jessie paul, "denver post" reporter there on the ground. i expect, jesse, with you being
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there talking to law enforcement, this was obviously a concern when you have five officers who were injured. certainly there must have been a sense that maybe one of them could have perished. >> reporter: i mean, it's been a pretty awful afternoon. it spanned out for five hours. the colorado attorney general's office has not verified that officer died and as far as we know, the colorado fraternal order of police is going off other media reports. "the denver post" have not independent verified that. this is over 100 officers here today, lots of swat officers from around this region. it was an amazing show of force and, you know, if that news is true, it's certainly awful. >> okay. so that's interesting you're cautioning the fraternal order of police, this is maybe something that certainly needs to be confirmed. the colorado attorney general's office first tweeted there were two killed, that tweet was
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deleted and then a tweet was sent out that there was a tragic lo loss of life. do you know anything about that? are they perhaps waiting to inform next of kin? >> reporter: i'm not 100% sure. i've been trying to reach out to the hospital and police. they have not confirmed any deaths on scene. they said that all afternoon. certainly this lasted for several hours. they don't know as of about 30 minutes ago, they didn't know exactly how many people were in the building, if there were still people in the building. this remained fluid as it has since 11:30 a.m. >> jesse, thanks so much for the information. do stand by for us. we would like to check in with you later. when this shooting broke out, these shops and businesses in this area, this was near really a large strip mall area with a grocery store and number of restaurants and all these shops and businesses were put on lockdown. bridgette wolf works near the
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clinic and works in a japanese restaurant there. we spoke earlier today. last we had spoken, you said there was a swat team that had come in and was sort of taking position near some large windows that you have there in the restaurant that had a view of the planned parenthood clinic. tell us about what you saw from that point on until this sort of came to a resolution in the last hour. >> reporter: they had come to our business knocking on our door to let them in and told us to hide where there were no windows available and then they had drop out their guns because they said the shooter was active at that point, but then a few moments later put down their guns and just making sure that
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everybody in our place was all right and then we just have been there since. >> are you still there? where are you now? >> they actually finally moved us into the grocery store. they won't let any of us leave with our vehicles tonight. >> okay. >> and they are asking us to call our family members to come pick us up. >> now have they told you why that is? obviously they are concerned there is danger or that perhaps the suspect maybe would have left something in the parking lot? is the concern? did they tell you? >> they didn't tell us that, but we did witness police dogs sniffing the vehicles and that's all i -- that's all i saw and they didn't let us know anything else. >> so were you away from the windows? were you able to see the suspect when he was taken into custody? >> no. >> give us a sense, bridgette, of what this is like in your
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community. you worked at this restaurant for two decades and i know you must know a lot of people there in town who come and frequent this area. they just go about their day, grocery shopping. what does this mean to have something like this happen so close to where you work? >> you know, i was born and raised in colorado springs and nothing like this has ever happened. you know, unfortunately, there are other events that happened but nothing like this. >> yeah, certainly just shakes the community. all right. bridget, thanks so much for talking to us throughout the day. we certainly do appreciate it. we'll have much more ahead on this breaking news out of colorado springs where this shooter is now in custody. you're watching cnn's breaking news.
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we have breaking news. the end of a five-hour stand off and the gunman is in custody tonight and the police association tweeted one officer was killed. we do know at least 1 1 people were taken to hospitals. we were told that initially five of those injured were police officers. i want to get with our cnn correspondent kyung lah. she's been covering this story from the beginning. what's the latest you're hearing? >> that this is not an over situation, if you think of it as it being completely over it is
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not. law enforcement has to go sweep through the building and they have to make sure those bags he brought in, the suspect brought in, what is inside them and they need to approach carefully. that has to take place in the building and see if anyone else is left inside hiding because in these sorts of situations there usually are a few people who simply are too afraid to come out. that's something law enforcement has to do in the immediate -- right now. now they have to figure out what was happening inside this man's mind. why did he go there? why today? today is black friday. a lot of people saw this happen. there were ten to 20 shots fired according to one witness we heard and they need to understand was this man motivated by something? and that's where the invest fwa gag -- investigation picks up.
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law enforcement plans on a busy night. >> that's why the numbers are difficult to pin down. thank you so much. there is still a lot of concern about possible explosive devices. the gunman may have brought with him. i want to bring in anthony may, a retired atf explosives officer and joining us now on the phone. anthony, you know, with your expertise, you have officials who are going through this building and they are trying to see if any of these items this man brought in if they are explosives. give us a sense of the process of going through and inspecting these items and disabling them if need be? >> good evening. as your previous person said, this situation is long from being over. even though the suspect is in custody, now we've got to go through and see each bag that he may have brought if he brought any bags, what were in the bags.
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understand this was a long, drawn out situation and the bags he did bring back and that area they saw what the colorado shooter, the movie shooter and all these things, that explosive devices are a potential. they are going to be trying to locate his car to see what may have been brought in his car and also going to be obtaining search warrants to go to his residence and see what he may have there. so this is long from being over. >> how dangerous is this work, whether it's going through the planned parenthood clinic or going to his home. what really are these officials dealing with on a danger level? >> well, it's moderately dangerous. you don't know what is going through this guy's mind. he had his apartment booby trapped and knew law enforcement
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would go there so they had to go work through that situation and trust me, the law enforcement officers, bomb technicians are going to be thinking this same line, now it's -- the situation is pretty much in control and they can have all the time in the world to safely go through this because it's quite frankly it's their own safety they are concerned about and they have to clear this. they have to clear every bag. they have to clear his home and car. >> great insight there. retired atf explosives enforcement officer. thank you. we'll continue to bring you the very latest on this shooting in colorado springs. we'll have more after a break.
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we have breaking news, a police association tweeted one officer was killed in that five-hour armed stand off at a planned parenthood clinic in colorado springs, colorado. the gunman is in custody tonight and as we speak, police are sweeping this building for possible victims and anyone who may be hiding out sill, possibly explosives. that's something certainly since this suspect brought in some
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ite items. the fbi, atf, and i want to get more from pamela brown. this could be a lengthy investigation. what are you hearing, pamela? >> it could take hours. it is a very large crime scene, brianna and right now they are still going room to roll tom tr to see if there were explosive devices. looking at the communications between swat team members while the shooting was taking place, they thought the gunman did have an ied possibly. if you look through the communications, that is one reason why they said we have to go in and take him out now, he could possibly have an ied. we heard the spokesperson for the police department there talking about a possible propane tank. the question is was he going to use that as an explosive device. that's one item we heard about. he brought in bag in. so they are having to go in and
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secure the scene, possibly bring in the bomb squad and make sure it's safe and as you point out, look for other victims and we're learning more about what was going on inside that building with officers tracking the movements of that gunman, able to see where he was from video feeds, from security cameras in the building. at one point, brianna, the video feed stopped working and they said, you know, we've lost eyes on him. we no longer know where this gunman is. that's frightening with staff, patients and other people inside the building and also some of them went into a safe room, brianna, a room designated for these types of crisis situations, active shooter situations so some of them were huddled in the room and it was a very intense situation when the swat team members were trying to get there help rescue some victims but also worried about the gunman and perhaps tipping
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him off or causing for exchange of gunfire. so many tense moments in the stand off taking place and thankfully, though, he was, you know, he peacefully surrendered and hopefully police will be able to interview him and get more of an idea what motivated him. was he specifically targeting planned parenthood? we don't know the answer to that yet and we don't know his i.d. but as you pointed out earlier, we have learned the sad news that one officer was killed during this stand off, 11 injured, brianna? >> pamela brown, thank you. i want to bring in art roderick. we also have cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney joey jackson and cnn law enforcement analyst cedric alexander and intelligence analyst bob baer. we certainly are expecting
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charges to be brought forth against this suspect. we're really waiting to figure out who he is and also some sort of inkling of why he did this. what is next in this case? >> interestingly enough, what pamela brown was mentioning in terms of will he talk? that's really an open question because what is next, of course, is the prosecution and any prosecution is going to be dependent upon the specific t t facts and facts are awful, miserable in terms of loss of life. you'll see how it will develop into a murder prosecution and multiple murders, i hope it's no more in terms of the victims getting better but what will happen is of course, you have the right to remain silent, et cetera, et cetera. will he talk is an open question. certainly possible he'll lawyer up and in that regard it's possible he won't say anything at all. in the absence of him talking about what specifically motivated him, there will be clues that investigators will find. of course, there will be the
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social media trail, whether it's e-mail, whether it's text, whether it's facebook, whatever. they will certainly find clues to what were the motivating factors behind this. we also know that the prosecutor will work very closely with the multiple law enforcement agencies involved to piece together the facts and present the case to the grand jury because ultimately that grand jury brianna will determine what the specific charges will be that he'll face and i think we can also look to in terms of any potential defenses here, anything predicated, what what was his mental health like but you want to know what his mind set was, what his state of mind was. that's going to be relevant as the case moves forward and ultimately gets to a jury if there is not any type of plea deal by that time but we're getting way ahead of ourselves in terms of that. >> all right. well we certainly want to know where the direction goes. cedric, i do want to ask you, were you surprised that the
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gunman surrendered? >> well, i'm glad that he did and, you know, there was no further incident of loss of life. let me say this first. my heart and prayers goes out to that police and the civilians and those injured that lost their lives tonight and hats off to the courageousness of the men and women there in colorado. in a situation like this, you really never know brianna how it's going to end and doesn't appear that way initially when police was engaged in a gunfight with this subject and certainly looked like it would have gone the distance and he would have had to have been neutralized. however, he decided to surrenderer and i think there is going to be a lot that's going to be gained from him being alive as to what initiated this with him, who else may or may not have been involved. it's going to be interesting to see when search warrants have
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done his residents and that might, he may own is to make some determination as to what kind of evidence will be gathered from those residences. >> yeah. >> so -- so it's very fortunate that no other life, loss of life was lost tonight. >> we're still waiting to pin down details on that. cedric, art, you're watching cnn breaking news. we're keeping a close eye on the developments and more breaking news, live coverage of a short break.
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breaking news, the end of a five-hour armed stand off in colorado springs, colorado. the gunman is in custody tonight and the police association has tweet that one officer was killed. we do know that at least 11 people were taken to hospitals, and this siege and shootout was centered around this planned parenthood facility. it's certainly not the first time that organization has been attacked. brian todd has a closer look at this, brian? >> brianna, these types of incidents go back decades. this planned parenthood facility
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in colorado springs does perform abortions according to the website at this hour. we do not know if this was a targeting of the planned parenthood office in colorado springs targeting because of the services it provides or not. whether it was a domestic incident or not. if it was a targeting of planned parenthood, it would be the latest in a string of attacks on abortion providing facilities or doctors that work with them. the most recent fatal attack was about six and a half years ago, dr. george 'tiller shot and killed inside his church on may 31st, 2009. dr. tiller was director of a services clinic that performed abortions. scott roder was convicted and he is evening issingserving a life. in 2008 this doctor that worked at an abortion providing clinic shot through the window of his kitchen with a high-powered rifle and james cop was convicted of second-degree
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murder in that case and he is now in prison. there have been bombings of abortion clinics in the united states. january 1998 an off-duty police officer in alabama was killed when that clinic was bombed. eric rudolph, the man that bombed the park in 1996 was convicted in the birmingham clinic bombing and rudolph confessed to bombing a clinic near atlanta in january 1997. there are disturbing numbers tonight, brianna on violence against abortion providers since 1977. take a look at the chart according to the national abortion federation, eight murders of abortion providers in the united states between 1977 and last year. 17 attempted murders that group says. the federation says there have been 42 incidents where aborltin providers have been targeted in bombings and arson directed at the facilities and of course,
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been tens of thousands of cases of harassment and hate mail and bomb threats. long history here. >> certainly is. thanks so much. we're just getting word there is going to be a news conference at the top of the hour. so just here in several minutes. these have been running pretty much on time, maybe a few minutes late. we're going to certainly be monitoring that when it starts. right now officers were inside the planned parenthood clinic in colorado springs going room to room and looking for any devices the gunman might have left behind. more of the breaking news coverage of a break. a penguin loaded a toy car onto a racetrack.
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we have breaking news, we're standing by for a news conference with law enforcement in colorado springs with a stand off with a gunman in a planned parenthood clinic has ended and a police association is tweeting that one officer was killed during this five-hour armed stand offment the gunman is in custody tonight as we mentioned and police it's not over for them. they are sweeping the building for explosives. i want to bring back art roderick, former assistant director and cnn law enforcement
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analyst and intelligence analyst bob baer. a former cia operative. i don't know, i think it's really surprising, bob, and i wonder what you think this ended the way it did with this gunman surrendering. >> i think it's a bit strange. he intended to take a lot of people with him if in fact he brought explosives, take down the building. the fact he brought propane tanks is disturbing and what disturbs me most is he assaulted police officers. he was ready to ambush them, which tells me we are dealing with particularly dangerous psychotic here. whether it was politically motivated or not, we have to wait to see. you have to wonder. >> you certainly have to wonder. were you surprised, art? >> when we heard one individual that worked at the japanese restaurant talk about the swat team getting ready to set up. >> inside that restaurant looking at the planned parenthood. >> through the glass and i think, i thought at that point this is going to be the
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individuals that will take out, you know, the individual there in the planned parenthood facility. it didn't happen. he gave up. he might have a statement he might want to make at this moment. hopefully he'll talk to law enforcement letting them know his motivation for this particular horrible scenario. >> real quick, cedric, final word before we wrap up here. were you pretty surprised here? >> well, here again, yes, i was surprised. i expected him to shoot it out all the way until the end but fortunately, he gave up and went without further incident here tonight. so that's a good thing. >> yeah, no, it certainly is a good thing and art, i also wonder just really quickly before we go, the way this actually -- pardon me, i'm being told i have to wrap up and out of time. art, thank you, bob baer, thanks so much to all of you. cnn's live coverage of the shooting in colorado springs
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planned parenthood continues with miguel marquez. good evening. i'm miguel marquez sitting in for anderson. we're about to learn more about the planned parenthood shooting. local officials expected to talk to reporters any minute now. this began before noon local time and ended late this evening when the gunman surrendered. >> the perpetrator is in custody. the situation has been resolved. there is no continuing ped dang the citizens of colorado springs. >> it has taken one local police officer's life and wounded nearly a dozen others. so far we neither know his name or background nor an alleged

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