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hello, everyone. you are watching cnn's breaking news coverage of a mass shooting at a california center. i'm isha sesay. it's 11:32 p.m. >> i'm john vase live in redlands, california. police have identified the suspects in that shooting in san bernadino. one is a man named syed farook, a county employee. the other, his wife or girlfriend, is tashfeen malik. both were killed in a shoot-out with police. they led authorities on a chase in a black suv. the director of the islamic group in the area says the couple left their 6-month-old daughter with her grandmother on wednesday morning. now, the grandmother had not heard from the couple and was concerned when she saw the reports of the shooting on tv.

earlier in the day, police say farook and malik opened fire at a holiday party. 14 people were killed and 17 others were wounded. >> cnn's randi kaye has details on how the shooting and the police chase unfolded. [ sirens ] >> reporter: active shooter. that was the warning just before lunchtime in san bernadino, california, about an hour east of los angeles. people inside and outside heard the shots. it all happened at a conference facility where a banquet for county officials was taking place. that facility is part of a large building complex that houses the inland regional center, which provides services to people with disabilities. within minutes, the san bernadino police they are looking for not one, but possibly as many as three shooters. >> multiple people entered the room and began shooting. >> reporter: the shooters are believed to be dressed in body

armor and heavily-armed. police say they came prepared for this attack. police, s.w.a.t. teams, the atf and fbi raced to the scene and set up a perimeter. they believe the shooters were still somewhere inside the large complex. loved ones of those trapped inside also arrive. this man's daughter texted him. she was hiding. >> shooting at my work. people shot. in the office, waiting for cops. >> but she's okay. >> pray for us. >> reporter: this man got a text from his wife, when the shooting started. >> she said the guy shot -- came in next to her office. and i guess started shooting. they locked themselves in her office. they seen bodies on the floor. she said right now, ambulance are taking people out in stretchers. >> reporter: as families wait for answers, california's governor is briefed. so is the president.

schools and hospitals are locked down. police continue to try and track down the shooters. >> we don't know where those shooters are. they are heavily-armed. and they are possibly wearing body armor, things of that nature. it is not a safe area to be. it's very dangerous. and the fewer innocent people we have in here, the better. >> reporter: shortly after it all began, at least a dozen people exit the building, hands up. this man's son was safely evacua evacuated, only after texting his dad there were live shooters in the building. >> he was pretty nervous. pretty upset, you know? worried. he didn't know for sure what was going on. i told him to just hunker down, make sure their cell phones were off. keep the noise. don't make noise. you know, hide under the desk. >> by late afternoon, the suspects are on the run. witnesses describe seeing three men dressed in military-style uniforms, carrying long guns. take off in a black suv. hours later, a shoot-out with police leaves two suspects dead.

more than a dozen victims are also dead, even more wounded. and the motive, far from clear. randi kaye, cnn, atlanta. >> police say they don't yet know a motive in this mass shooting. they're not ready to call it terrorism, at least not yet. but cnn's intelligence and security analyst, bob baer, has a different take. >> i have my biases, of course. but look at the nature of the tech. a military assault. assault rifles. they left an i.e.d. or what looked like one at the entrance to hold up the police. when they ran from the police, they were throwing pipe bombs out to break off contact. those kind of tactics, you don't get off the internet. you have to train for those. you have to plan them long in advance. i can't explain the nature of the target. but what also disturbs me like this that looks like terrorism,

these two apparently were ready to die. in a situation like this, you don't pull a gun on the police and not expect to die. i mean, they were being chased. these are people that are committed to something. they are not simply like the colorado springs shooter who gave up. who was a psychopath. it's unclear whether that was terrorism or not. the man was just crazy. but this is looking more and more like terrorism. and my law enforcement contacts in california have been worried about this happening in southern california for some time. they've been a couple months telling me this. they had a suspicion something was going to occur here. i don't know if it's related. but you know, back to my biases, i have to wonder. >> just to confirm that the authorities, local authorities, have not confirmed that terrorism played a part in this. there's still a lot we don't know. and we wait for updates on them. stay with cnn's continuing coverage of a mass shooting in california. we will be right back after a quick break.

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this is cnn breaking news. >> i was walking to the center. and this lady and i heard shots. i got walking. and i got into chaos. who knows? boom, boom, boom, boom. i'm right in the middle of it. >> hello, everyone. i'm isha sesay, coming to you live from los angeles. authorities have identified the suspects in the san bernadino shooting. they have named syed farook a county employee, and tashfeen malik, the shooters. they were married or boyfriend and girlfriend. farook left a holiday party at the center before the shooting. 14 people were killed and 17 wounded when he and malik later returned and opened fire.

the director of a los angeles islamic group says the couple left their young daughter with her grandmother wednesday morning. when the grandmother had not heard from the couple, she got concerned. hours later, farook and malik were killed after a chase and shoot-out with police. they were armed with assault-style rifles and handguns. reaction to wednesday's event is pouring in. barack obama is calling for more gun reforms after this latest mass shooting. he says congress should work together and close loopholes including ones that allows people to buy a gun even if they're deemed too dangerous to fly. >> not that we can eliminate every one of the mass shootings. but to improve the odds. common sense, gun safety laws. stronger background checks. for those who are concerned

about terrorism, you know, some may be aware of the fact that we have a no-fly list where people can't get on planes. but those same people that we don't allow to fly could go into a store right now in the united states and buy a firearm. and there's nothing that we can do to stop them. that's a law that needs to be changed. >> let's put wednesday's shooting in some kind of context for you. san bernadino marks the 355th mass shooting in the u.s. this year. that's more mass shootings than days so far in 2015. mass shootings have occurred every month this year, with 44 happening in june alone. a mass shooting is defined as a shooting with at least four people injured or killed, including the shooter. these numbers are according to the mass shooting tracker database. it's the deadliest in 2015. let's look at some of the other high-profile shoots this year. this past friday, a suspect

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towards events that have already occurred. >> got a shooter. got a shooter down. >> the environments they put us in, typically, are schools. but we make everybody aware that active shooter can happen anywhere. in churches, in movie theaters, places where there's a large mass of people that are really not expecting something to happen like that. >> get down. i'm reloading. >> across the country, active shooters are becoming more and more evident and problematic. >> let me see your hands. >> we're teaching them how to approach a location. how to get in. our number one goal to teach active shooters is to stop the killing. the second goal we're looking for is to stop the dying. >> active shooter is probably one of the worst scenarios a police officer can handle. life or death. it's what we're paid for. we need to neutralize the threat to save lives.

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6-month-old daughter with her grandmother on wednesday morning. the grandmother had not heard from the couple and was concerned when she saw reports about the shooting on television. >> they opened fire at a holiday party. 14 people were killed. 17 were wounded. the police chief briefed reporters just a little bit earlier. >> we have this crime scene. the crime scene on san bernadino, avenue. the house in redlands, where the pursuit originated. that is being actively worked, as well. as i said, mr. farook was a county employ. we have secured his office space, in case that has any component to the investigation. >> and, john, as we hear of those multiple locations, three locations that authorities are processing. multiple agencies involved. this is a huge undertaking.

>> massive investigation around under way right snow. the shooting that took place. where the 14 people were shot dead. here, where i am in redlands at the moment. the townhome that's been linked to syed farook at the moment. we're not sure if he owned it, rented it, if he lived here. there has been a lot of activity here for many, many hours. police and the authorities are concerned about entering into that townhome. they ruusing robots. and they are searching farook's office. he was a county employee there. and they are looking for any clues, any indication as to a motive. also, any indication who may have been involved, possibly, in the earlier stages of all this. possibly the planning, as well. we did hear from the police chief in san bernadino, who did say that clearly, this was not a

spur-of-the-moment thing. in his words, there was a lot of planning leading up to this. right now, all of these investigations are under way to try to work out, piece together, exactly what happened. not just at the moment of the shooting, but what led up to this. and of course, that all-important question of why? why did they decide to go on this shooting rampage? because we have heard from a lot of people, clearly, this has a lot more fallout or has a lot more to do than simply just an argument, a fallout from an argument at a holiday party. >> there's many, many unanswered questions. some things still don't hang together in a way that makes sense. john, appreciate the insight there. we know the witnesses have been sharing their stories with us throughout the day, as well as family members, anxiously waiting for news about their loved ones. here's what we've been hearing. >> shooting at my work. people shot. in the office, waiting for cops.

♪ >> it is not a safe area to be. it's very dangerous. >> and finally there was this section, where we were able to lock the doors. >> we had to get staff behind locked doors. >> i heard rapid shooting. just boom, boom, boom. >> i was walking down. and this lady and a couple others heard shots. i started walking. and i got into the chaos. >> you see people being treated there. >> they are heavily armed. and they are possibly wearing body armor, things of that nature. >> large armed response here by the sheriff's department. >> someone had come in and started shooting.

and they ran into an office. and she's hiding with other people. >> she said the guy came in next to her office. and i guess started shooting. they locked themselves in her office. they seen bodies on the floor. and she said right now, ambulance are taking people out. >> she was shuttled into a room. police showed up. they were taken outside. thank god there weren't more casualties. >> thank god. stay with cnn as we continue to follow this breaking story. i'm isha sesay in los angeles. >> i'm john vase in redlands, california. a lot more after the break, including new details about explosives found inside the conference room where the shooting took place. back in a moment. is never easy. doing your own thing, making your own way can be pretty, well, bold. rickie fowler is redefining what it means to be a golfer.

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around the world. you're watching breaking news coverage of the shooting in san bernardino, california. ? i'm rosemary church. thanks for joining us. >> the latest now. police in southern california are trying to figure out the

motive behind a mass shooting that's left 17 people dead and 17 others injured. it started at a community care center where employees gathered for a holiday party. they believe a man left and opened fire. we are just learning from police that a bay with rudimentary education explosive guys was found inside the facility. there was a shootout with police. authorities say they were dressed in assault style clothing, armed with handguns and assault rifles. this is what the san bernardino had to say. >> one of the tips that we were following up on took us to a house in redlands where we made contact with the suspect vehicle that we were looking for. that resulted in a pursuit which ultimately came back into the city of san bernardino and on san bernardino avenue between richardson and mountain view avenue, that pursuit terminated.

there was an officer-involved shooting. that's count, i'd been told that we had 20 or 21 officers that were involved in that gun battle with the suspects. the two suspects that were in that car are both deceased, and i have their names. first one has been identified as syed rizwan farook. he is 28 years old. i am told that he is u.s.-born. the person that was with him is a female. she is deceased as well. her name is tashfeen malik. she is 27 years old. i do not have any additional information on where she is from at this point. i'll talk about the investigation a little bit. there was some questions that you guys asked at an earlier press conference about a person that had left the meeting angry. this was a meeting, christmas party-type event.

it was taking place with the county employees at the inland renalal center. mr. farook is a county employee. he works with his title as an environmental specialist in the public health department, has been ployed there for five years. he was at the party. he did leave the party early under some circumstances that were described as angry or something of that nature. that is the information we were following up when we encountered him back near this residence. he is now one of the deceased. we have gone back and forth between information that they were married or that they were engaged, but there was a relationship. >> the gentleman you're holding and questioning, how does he fit? >> i have not been able to get an update as to whether or not that person was involved. as i said before, when the officer-involved shoot og cured, the initial officers we had

information from didn't see anybody specifically fleeing the vehicle. there was other responding vehicles that saw this person running away and stopped him and detained him. for that reason, we don't know if he was involved or what his involvement is at this point. >> what is the motive? >> so, we initially put out that we had information that there were upwards of three shooters. right now as we continue to drill down on information and the witness statements that we have, it looks like we have two shooters and we're pretty comfortable that the two shooters that we believe wept into the building are the two shooters that are deceased on san bernardino avenue. >> the police chief speaking there. and we have this just in. the first picture of the shooting suspect, syed farook. information he posted on a dating site says he was a muslim male living in california, and we have a little more now about the suspect. the residence that police are searching is connected to

farook. the director of an islamic group in los angeles says the couple left their six-month old daughter with her grandmother on wednesday morning. she became concerned when she saw the reports about the shooting on television. farook's brother-in-law spoke with reporters earlier on wednesday. >> i just cannot express how sad i am for what happened today. i mean, my condolences to the people who lost their life. i am very sad that people lost their life, and there are victims out there. i wish speedy recovery to them. i am in shock that something like this could happen. >> of course, everyone wants to try and work out exactly why this happened. and we are following these developments outside the community center in san bernardino. we are joined live by paul. you've had a chance to speak to witnesses. they've told you about how the

day unfolded. >> reporter: well, what was extremely tense is the police put up their yellow tape and sealed people from getting into the center. 670 people employees in total working there. it doesn't mean other county employees couldn't go to a party there they were having this day. when these people could not get inside, they started trying to use their cell phones to contact loved ones. one young man was absolutely beside himself. he was trying to call his sister. he said that i don't care anymore. i'm going to run through this police tape and run in there. i reminded him in these situations, you are told if you are a hostage or trapped in somewhere to turn your phone off because you wouldn't want that ring or the buzz of a text or something else to attract attention to you, the very sort of thing that could lure active shooters toward you. a tense moment. high anxiety. people on pins and needles.

so many of them, relieved when they finally did hear back from a loved one inside that building. >> it must be incredibly difficult for so many people to be involved in this and for the investigation, the police and the authorities, they need to speak to pretty much everybody who was involved, everybody who was somehow in that building. and we're talking hundreds and hundreds of people. >> absolutely right. as we said, 670 working in this center, and we saw it earlier over my right shoulder. all of a sudden it was the moment where it looked like the scene was close to cleared, like there was some silver lining. there were both city buses and then they used school buses to take out hundreds, it seemed, of people right along this way. a lot of the activity happening right here as well as swat vehicles leaving. but many of them, they said, would be interrogated, especially if they thought they

could provide any information as to how all of this went down. they have said, and you might have noted this, john, that they said it was a rather confined space in this where this party was taking place and there was a lot of talk that perhaps it could have been much worse. the suspects, of course, leaving well before police could get there and then heading redlands. >> there's a number of investigations going on. one at the townhouse, within at farook's office because he was a county employee, and where you are as well. paul, thank you for the latest. police are also saying that part of this investigation is focusing on the explosives which were found inside that community center. information coming to us from the justice correspondent, evan perez, says explosives were found in the center in a row mote control car, and the

control for the car was found inside the suv. they believe the plan was to detonate those explosives remotely once the gunmen had left the scene, either the remotely didn't work because they were too far away or they didn't carry out that part of the plot. that's coming from us from our justice correspondent. the latest numbers from san bernardino police, 14 people dead. another 17 injured. many of them were at that holiday party, and throughout the day, we've heard from both survivors as well as anxious family members. >> they were barricaded in their office. they heard a lot of give up shots, crying. when s.w.a.t. got her out, she said there was bodies that they had to go through to get out. >> i heard rapid shoot, just boom boom boom boom boom, and honestly, i thought, oh, god, somebody is hunting. >> all of a sudden, boom, it was here. >> boom, boom, boom. >> and i was right behind the building.

>> i started walking and i got into chaos. and boom, and i'm just right in the middle of it. >> employees were locked in offices and closets to try to stay safe. >> shooting at my work, people shot in the office waiting for cops? >> she's okay? >> pray for us. >> reporter: along with some of the accounts there's also been chilling videos coming into cnn recorded by witnesses inside that building including the moment people were evacuated and a promise from the man who is leading them to safety. >> are you ready? if you're not cool, i'm not walking, dude. sure? keep your hands where i can see them. all the way. take a left at the deputy.

>> thank you. thank you. try to relax. everyone try to relax. i'll take a bullet before you do. that's for sure. just be cool, okay? >> san bernardino police told us that they were on the scene within four minutes of the initial calls for help, and within have15 minutes they were evacuated the woubded. they also received a tip that led them to this house in redlands. that's where they saw a black suv driving in a suspicious manner. you can hear the gunshots in this audio as police were talking with dispatchers. >> okay. last seen headed toward school. do we have a clothing description? >> male, dark skin is all i

havhave on this frequency. >> have them go there. >> i need more people here unless it's a s.w.a.t. team. >> what's your exact location? >> we are at san bernardino and sheddon. san bernardino and sheddon. one guy down. there's one guy in the back of a car. >> thanks for the update. suspect vehicle stopped. extracted. wait for the bear cat. >> copy. >> right now we have one down outside the car, one down inside the car. we don't know. hold on. from what we understand, one is on the run. >> extraordinary run down of events there, and reaction to wednesday's events is pouring in. u.s. president, barack obama, is once again calling for more gun

control reforms after this latest mass shooting. speaking to cbs news he said congress should work together to close loopholes, including one that allows people to buy a gun even if they're deemed too dangerous to fly. >> there are some steps we could take not to eliminate every one of these mass shootings, but to improve the odds that they don't happen as frequently. common sense gun safety laws, stronger background checks. you know, and for those who are concerned about terrorism, some may be aware of the fact that we have a no fly list where people can't get on planes, but those same people who we don't allow to fly could go into a store in the united states and buy a firearm and there's nothing we can do to stop them. that's a law that needs to be changed. >> the u.s. president, barack

obama speaking out about a mass shooting here. our coverage continues after short break. we'll have more details about the shooting in redlands and san bernardino in just a moment. >> this is a shocking event for our community. we are very fortunate that we have such a well-trained police department. our sheriff's department that went into action and they put a massive effort out at trying to alleviate the problem that they were confronted with.

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i'm very sad. i'm deeply sad and shocked that something like this happened here in my community. i love this country. i'm living in this community for a long time. and something like this happened here. and on behalf of my family, we all are shocked and very sorry for what happened. >> reporter: that was the brother-in-law of the man who has been named as the suspect in this shooting, syed farook. welcome back to our continuing coverage of the mass shootings in san bernardino.

>> we are learning more about what happened suspects in the san bernardino shooting did before carrying out their attack. at the inland regional center, the director of an islam group says syed farook and tashfeen malik left their baby daughter with her grandmother. the woman called them after hearing reports of the shooting and got no response. >> reporter: police say farook, a county employee attended and then left a holiday party at the center. they say he left angry. they believe he and malik left killing people. they also left with a bag of explosives at the scene. they were killed hours later after a chase and a gun battle with police. we heard earlier from glenn willwerth who witnessed the

shooting, and he grabbed his own firearm. >> at my office, my building is actually directly across the street from the regional center. my office window faces the inland regional center, and i was in my office and saw somebody run by my window, and when i got up to investigate, they rushed in to my front door, seeking shelter, saying they're shoot, they're shooting everybody, and so i told everybody to basically just lock down the building, everybody stay put. bring down all the doors, and i actually grabbed my side arm and hollist holstered up and went to where the shooting was happens. about halfway from my place to where the shooters were, i hunkered down by a water truck that was out on the street. and i stayed posted up there, until about another ten or

fifteen shots went off. i was able to see somebody. couldn't tell description wise anything other than i could see somebody moving through the trees get into a black suv. >> glenn, let's talk about your reaction. you grabbed your own weapon and you went out once you secured the people inside your office? did you actually fire any shots at the two suspects or did not not get close enough? >> no. you know, i looked -- i actually, where i was posted up was inbetween my building, i really just wanted to make sure that whatever was going on, it didn't venture over to where i had my family and my employees. >> reporter: joining me now is the executive director for the los angeles chapter of care, the council on american islamic relations. he's live in los angeles. thank you for being with us. clearly right now everybody is searching for a motive in all of

this. i know that you have come out and condemned this attack, but clearly you've spoken to the family. we've heard from farook's brother-in-law. what more can you tell us? >> well, of course we don't know the motives, and the family is devastated, like all americans today. filled with sorrow and mourning, and then we express on their behalf, their heart-felt condolences to all the families of the victims injured and killed and just pray for whoever is responsible to pay the price for it. the family is devastated. like all people, and this is the time for us to express solidarity among all of us americans in rejecting whatever the motives might have been. there's absolutely no justification for such horrendous behavior. >> reporter: have you had a chance to speak at any length with the family of syed farook, and if there was any indication -- we heard from the brother-in-law saying no one

expected this. he had just spoken to him a week ago. what else has the family been saying to you? >> i spoke with them. they're as shocked as anybody else. they had no clue that this could happen. they -- this is a -- the suspect is married, has a six-month old baby. you wouldn't expect -- they have no reason, what made him snap. just is it mental illness, workplace related, it's unknown to us. all they can do is share with everybody's sorrow and prayers that this is over quickly and that the pain and suffering of all these families is eased. >> reporter: you were very quick to come out and hold a news conferen conference. even had farook's brother-in-law there to talk about this. explain to me why you took that action. >> well, because we're living in

a very difficult time. there is a lot of us laislam ph fuelled by pundits trying to blame a community for the acts of a few. again, we're mourning as a nation after what happened in colorado springs by someone who is also responsible for his act, not the christian community or the american community. same thing. we felt there was a need for our fellow americans to know that all american muslims share with the rest of the country or sorrow and shock and agony for what happened. it was important for the family. they wanted to make sure that people know how devastated they are, and they insisted to being here, although they're going through their sorrow as we speak. they drove to be at the office and speak to fellow americans and say today we're all victims. we stand united in our sorrow, and the only way we can come through this is through our

solidarity. >> reporter: okay. so we shall leave it there. we appreciate you being with us, the executive director for care, the american islamic relations in los angeles. thank you for being with us. we appreciate that. >> and you are watching our breaking news coverage. we'll get you back out to san bernardino, california for the latest on the mass shooting there after this quick break. . >> we initially put out we had information that there were upward of three shooters. right now as we continue to drill down on information, and the witness statements that we have, it looks like we have two shooters and we're pretty comfortable the two shooters that we believe went into the building are the two shooters deceased up on san bernardino avenue.

welcome back to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. i'm rosemary church at cnn center. >> reporter: i'm john vause in san bernardino. police have identified the suspects of a shooting in san bernardino. one is a man named syed, farook, a count employee. this is the first picture we have of them. the other, his wife or girlfriend is tashfeen malik. both were killed after they led police in a chase. dressed in assault style cho clothing, they left their six month old daughter with her grandmother on we understadnesd

morning. the grandmother hadn't heard from the couple and became concerned when she saw the reports about the shooting on television informal earlier in the day the couple opened fire at a holiday party, killing 14 people, wounding at least 17 others. >> we have this crime scene. we have the crime scene on san bernardino. we have a house in redlands is where the pursuit originated where the information took us to. that's being actively worked as well. and as i said, mr. farook was a county employee. so we have, obviously, secured his office space in case that has any component to the investigation. >> reporter: cnn's randi kaye has details on how the shooting and the police chase unfolded. >> reporter: active shooter, that was the warning just before lunchtime in san bernardino, california. about an hour east of los angeles. people inside and outside the building targeted heard the shots. >> i was working and i hear boom. >> it happened at a conference

facility where a bank wet was taking place. that facility is part of a lge building complex that houses the inland regional center which provides services to people with disabilities. within minutes, the san bernardino police alert they are looking for not one but possibly as many as three shooters. >> multiple people entered the room and began shooting. >> reporter: the shooters are believed to be dressed in body armor and heavily armed. police say they came prepared for this attack. police s.w.a.t. teams the atf and fbi raced to the scene and set up a perimeter. they believe the shooters were still somewhere inside the large complex. loved ones of those trapped inside also arrive. this man's daughter texted him. she was hiding. >> shoot agent ing at my office. people at my work. in office waiting for cops. >> she's okay?

>> pray for us. >> this man got a text from his wife when the shooting started. >> she said the guy came in next to her office and i guess started shooting. they locked themselves in. in her office. they seen bodies on the floor, and she said right now balance are taking people out, in stretchers. >> reporter: as families wait for answers, california's governor is briefed. so is the president. schools and hospitals are locked down. meanwhile, police continue to try and track down the shooters. >> we don't know where the shooters are. they are heavily armed. and they are possibly wearing body armor, things of that nature. it is not a safe area to be. it's very dangerous, and the fewer innocent people in here the better. >> reporter: shortly after it all began, at least a dozen people exit the building, hands up. this man's son was safely evacuated, only after texting his dad that there were live shooters in the building. >> he was pretty nervous, pretty

upset. you know, worried. he didn't know for sure what was going on. i told him to just hundre hunke don't make noise and hide under the desk. >> reporter: by late afternoon the suspects are on the run. witnesses describe two men taking off in a black suv. hours later a shootout with police leaves two suspects dead. more than a dozen victims are also dead. even more wounded. and the motive, far from clear. randi kaye, cnn, atlanta. >> reporter: and cnn's paul following developments outside the community center. paul, by all accounts, this was a massive police response. we're getting more details about how quickly police arrived on the scene. >> reporter: yes. they said it took them a mere four minutes to arrive on scene, and even so, the suspects has

fled, perhaps more information about calculation. we were seeing federal agents here, san bernardino police, san bernardino county sheriffs. we were also seeing members of alcohol, tobacco and firearms because of the fear of bombs. when it was learned that some sort of exchange of fun fire has taken place where you are in red lap redlands. officers ripped out of here. and the armored s.w.a.t. vehicles, they used those at one point to go ahead and box in, if you will, the suspects in a move, and then they carefully walked upon the vehicles, the vehicle, the suv, shot out the windshield, among other things and used the armored personnel carriers to use them as covers so they uld unload on the suspects in this, as you heard,

21 law enforcement officers involved in this shoot out, for lack of a better term. they were just trading fire in a neighborhood not far from here. we could hear the whir of helicopters. san bernardino county, high anxiety today. >> it was incredible. when you look at the suv. it was literally covered th bullets by the time it was said and done. one of the issues at the community center, the possibility of explosives. what's the latest with that? >> reporter: from what we understand and with what we heard, we heard the muffled sound what sounded like successful detonation. we don't know if the bombs were live or active. you talked about a bag they had, and federal agents off camera said one of the pipe bombs they threw at the shooting scene

wasn't active. they took that precaution, it sounded like because of the muffled nature, to blow up whatever was there. so that resolved itself well. otherwise you would be seeing fire behind me. that wasn't the case. >> yeah. okay. thank you, paul. live outside the community center where the shooting began. thank you, paul. >> syed farook and tashfeen malik were killed in the shoot out with police. officials say fook shot at them from this suv. this all happened not far from the community center. it was a chaotic scene with a device that looked like a bomb being tossed from the vehicle. a reporter for the press enterprise was caught up in the middle of this after getting a tip. >> i saw three or four police cars with lights blazing go on

san bernardino avenue, and i followed them, and as i was following them, i heard a thunderous sound, and there were these -- there was a strange noise, and i seen, i didn't know what it was, but i guess it was bullets whizzing through the air. it was like a whizzing sound, and i pulled over, and i got out of the car, grabbed my camera, and i could see some police officers ahead of me, and then i didn't hear any shooting, and i started walking toward it, and then there was a thunderous outbreak of gunfire. a police officer yelling for me to get down. all guns were drawn, and as this was going on, waves and waves of police officers were coming from behind me. >> david, did you see?

this was all at the location of the suv, correct? >> yes. and i did not see the suv. i did not see the shooters. or any of that. you know, it's just with the situation where there was just a lot of gunfire, and the shooting went on for about a ten minute period, i would say, and then it got quiet again. >> when you were out of your vehicle and heard shots, was it your impression, you may not know the answer, was it your impression there was incoming fire, or was it mostly outgoing? >> i don't know which way it was going. that was one of the scariest things. i could see police and they were probably engaged in shooting, but i couldn't tell which police were shooting and which were not. it seemed as though waves of police were just arriving behind me and running ahead of me with guns drawn, guns of, you know, some had handguns.

others had assault rifles. >> president obama's reaction to the california shooting still ahead. plus a look at how police train for events like this. ooñóokñ.??????ó

>> i know one of the big questions that will come up repeatedly is is this terrorism. and i am still not willing to say that we know that for sure. we are definitely making some movements that it is a possibility. we are making some adjustments to our investigation. it is a possibility, but we don't know that yet. and we're not willing to go down that road yet. >> we'd like to welcome back our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is breaking news coverage of the mass shootings here in san bernardino. i'm john vause. >> and i'm rosemary church at

cnn center. >> we are learning new details about the suspects in this mass shooting. the director of a los angeles islamic group says syed farook and tashfeen malik left their young daughter with their grandmother. the woman called them after hearing reports of a shooting but there was no answer. police say farook, a county employee attended and abruptly left a holiday party. along with malik he killed at least 14 people and wounded at least 17 others when they returned with long guns. authorities say they found a bag with explosives and a detonator at the scene. they were killed hours later after a chase and a gun battle with police. authorities are trying to work out a clear motive for this attack. it's still early in the investigation. law enforcement analysts, shared his thoughts just a short time

ago. >> there's still a lot left to be determined in this particular case. as you heard the chief say earlier, during the press conference, he is determined to get to the bottom of the motive, but at this point, it could be a variety of things. i think we have to accept that narrative at this point because it's perplexing and confusing and unusual, this thing is unfolding through the course of the last 12 hours and there's a lot to be determined still. >> a lot of people are making the point that clearly the events that happened after an argument at a holiday party go way beyond what would be a normal reaction for a dispute between work colleagues and an end of year party. so at least in your assessment, there has to be something more to this than simply angry words at a staff party. >> well, certainly. if you look at the fact that they left, he came back, the

weapons he was armed with, and the fact, too, as well, the number of people that were injured and killed. this was a horrible, horrible crime. and this is more than just one or two people having a falling out at a christmas party. this is something much more in depth than that, and it certainly, without question, there was some planful organization to this family member that occurred. so rather, this argument was started with some real intent of coming back, but it's just very per fl perpl perplexing, but in my experience, i'm pretty sure this was a staged event, and they knew they were going to come back and do harm to people. >> we will continue to follow breaking news in california. when we come back, we'll hear from those who heard the shots and then simply hoped to get out alive.

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welcome back, everyone. i'm rosemary church. >> and i'm john vause in san bernardino where it is coming up to 1:00 a.m. in the morning and police have identified the suspects in the mass shooting here, and we have just received our first picture of one of them. he is this man, right there, syed farook, a county employee. the other shooter either his wife or girlfriend. she's been named as tashfeen malik. >> both were killed in a shootout after they led police on a chase in this black suv. earlier in the day, police say the couple opened fire at a holiday party. 14 people were killed. at least 17 others were wounded. san bernardino marks the 355th mass shooting in the u.s. this year. that's more mass shootings than

days so far in 2015. mass shootings have occurred every month this year with 44 in june alone. a mass shooting is defined with a shooting with at least four people injured or killed including the shooter. the san bernardino shooting is the deadliest in 2015. we want to take a look at some of the other high profile shootings this year. just this past fri a suspect shot and killed three people and wounded others in the a planned parenthood community. in oregon, nine people were killed. in august a virginia news crew was shot and killed on live television by a former co-worker who later killed himself. in july a military recruiting center was attacked. and in june, nine people were killed in a shooting during a church prayer meeting in

charleston, south carolina. >> in an age where mass shootings are happening more and more in the u.s., public safety officials are making sure they train for the worse case scenarios. we got an exclusive look at one of the training programs. >> drop the gun. >> do you understand me? >> one down. one down. one down. >> all the scenarios are geared towards events that have already occurred. >> shooter, shooter down. >> the environments that they put us in typically are schools, but we make everybody aware that active shooter can happen anywhere. in churches, in movie theaters, places where there's a large mass of people that are really not expecting something to happen like that. >> man down. >> across the country, an active

shooters are becoming more and more evident and problematic. >> let me see your hand. >> we're teaching them how to approach a location, how to get in. our number one goal in teaching active shooters to stop the killing. the second goal is to stop the dying. >> active shooter is probably one of the worse scenarios a police officer can handle in fact life or death. it's what we're paid for. we need to neutralize the threat to save lives. >> the training is as close to real life as you can get. the heart rate is spiking. it's the best you're going to do without shooting real bullets at a person. >> he's got a gun. he's got a gun. he's got a gun. >> there have been suspicious men with guns, but no shots fired and they're coming in to investigate and it turns into a shooting. they've dealt with explosives,

ied awareness. >> i'm going to kill him in ten seconds. >> they're also dealing with hostage situations. [ gunfire ] >> training builds confidence. a lot of these guys don't have a lot of confidence. they don't have environments like this. the lessons under dress are what we retain the longest. this was a good job. all this done right here. weeks after they've gone through the training and been involved in incidences and it's helped them survive them. it is helping. >> witnesses have been sharing their stories with us throughout the day. we've also been hearing from family members, actinxiously waiting for news about their loved ones. >> shooting at my work, people shot. in the office waiting for cops.

>> it is not a safe area to be. it's very dangerous. >> there was an active shooter and we needed to stay and get all staff behind locked doors so we stayed there until the s.w.a.t. teams came in and evacuated us. >> i heard rapid shooting. >> i was walking down and this lady and a couple others heard shootshots and i heard, and then i started working and then i got into chaos. >> you can see people being treated. >> they're heavily armed and possibly wearing body armor. >> large response by the sheriff's department here. >> someone had come in and started shooting and they ran into an office and she's hiding with some other people. >> she said the guy came in next to her office, and i guess

started shooting. they locked themselves in her office. they seen bodies on the floor, and she said right now balance are taking people out. >> she was shuttled into a room, police showed up. they were taken outside. thank god there weren't more casualties. >> you just saw the images, and terrifying stories of what people here from gone through on wednesday, in another mass shootings in the united states. you've been watching our live coverage in san bernardino in california. i'm john vause. >> and i'm rosemary church. early start with john berman will have the latest. that's next. i have asthma... ...one of many pieces in my life. so when my asthma symptoms kept coming back on my long-term control medicine, i talked to my doctor and found a missing piece

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breaking news this morning, 14 people dead, 17 wounded in a california office building massacre. the attackers killed hours later in a shootout with police. they've been identified. good morning. welcome to "early start." >> it's thursday, december 3rd. it is 4:00 a.m. in the east. we want to welcome viewers in the united states and around the world. breaking news this morning, the latest in the shooting in san bernardino, california that left 14 people dead, 17 injured. authorities say two suspect died in a gun battle with police hours after they burst into a