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to the families of these wonderful, wonderful people who were gunned down. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." cnn's special coverage of the san bernardino shooting takes place right now with erin burnett "outfront." next breaking news, the fbi investigating the shooting in san bernardino has an act of terrorism. did the female shooter radicalize her husband? plus, we'll take you inside the shooter's apartment where investigators believe they hatched the deadly plot surrounded by prayer brooks and their infant baby's toys. and new images of the mother of a 6-month-old who became a mass murderer. how investigators are now linking her to isis. let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, the breaking news inspired by isis. the fbi now officially investigating the massacre in san bernardino as an act of
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terror. this, as we are getting the first image of tashfeen malik, the first time you've seen her face. u.s. officials believe she was inspired by isis. she posted her allegiance to the leader of the group abu bakr al baghdadi on facebook. that post literally went up as she and her husband, syed farook, launched their brutal attack and murdered 14 people. moments ago, a stunning press conference with attorneys for syed farook's family. they claim there is no real evidence for terrorism and admitted the family knew little about farook's wife. >> they were very traditional. the family would go over to the house. they wouldn't all be together in the room. the women sat with the women and men sat with the men. but that's a very traditional way of acting. it wasn't anything that was different. men didn't interact with her and the brothers did not actually ever see her face. she did wear a burqa.
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>> there was this bizarre scene that happened on live television. dozens of reporters, news crews, curious on lookers went into the apartment. everybody picking up and touching whatever they wanted, moving it and looking at it. >> the building's landlord invited media to come in and law enforcement stood by and did not object. many call it unfettered access to a crime scene. once they boarded the place up it has, quote, nothing to do with us. pretty stunning. a lot of late-breaking developments. i want to begin with jim sciutto. the stunning press conference, the attorneys for farook's family, talking, answering questions after question after question, a lot of things that they had to say and the way they said it were very surprising. >> it was one of the odder press conferences that i've seen. in effect, they make two
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arguments. they say that the family knew nothing about this and part of the way that they explained that is that, for instance, men and women did not spend time together. they were an observant muslim family and that the wife tashfeen malik wore a burqa so the male members of the family didn't really know what she looked like but they said they interacted a lot. in this garage where it's believed that they manufactured these pipe bombs, that there were play dates that took place inside there but they didn't see anything suspicious going on. the other argument they make is they try to undermine the fbi's comment that terrorism is an explanation or rather that they are investigating this as a terrorist case. listen to what they had to say. >> i've checked out a britney spears post and i hate britney spears music. it doesn't mean that you condone whatever you look at or read or fully believe and acting on behalf of whatever you look at
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or read. >> the britney spears kmecommen he's saying that they are saying it was inspired because one of the shooters checked out a jihadi website. in fact, tashfeen malik posted allegiance to the isis leader abu bakr al baghdadi as this deadly rampage was taking place. to compare it to a britney spears website is an odd one in light of the case and, to be clear, we've reported that there were other signs as well, including contacts by phone and social media with known terrorist suspects overseas. so it was an interesting moment to watch, for sure. >> all right. jim sciutto, thank you very much. it really was riveting. tonight, u.s. officials say they have uncovered a chilling facebook post that may link farook's wife to isis. kyung lah is "outfront." >> reporter: investigators are honing in on tashfeen malik, the wife and second shooter in the
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san bernardino attack that claimed the lives of 14 people. three u.s. officials familiar with the investigation say as the massacre was happening, malik posted on facebook a pledge of allegiance to abu bakr al baghdadi, isis leader. she is a woman few members of the islamic center in riverside remember. that's the mosque that farook attended. their wedding was here last year. >> the service was here. >> yes. >> reporter: women are separated from the men in this mosque so even the director of the islamic center never met malik. she's a mystery to many here, including those who knew her best. according to attorneys for the farook family, syed's brothers never saw her face. >> men did not interact with her and the brothers did not actually ever see her face. they've never seen her face. >> reporter: the couple first met like many today, on the web. farook had joined a dating
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website. he came across malik, a pakistani citizen living in saudi arabia. he turned to this man for marital advice. >> he said, i feel comfortable with this person and i believe she's a good woman, she's a decent woman. she's a religious woman. >> reporter: kuko says that farook flew there to meet mall like in 2013 and went again in june 2014. documents show she entered the u.s. a month later. their marriage certificate filed in riverside county says they were legally married in august of that year. members of the mosque first met malik at their wedding ceremony held here. abdul akmed, farook's friend, was among the 300 who attended the wedding. >> when he comes here, he was looking good. >> reporter: and then he disappeared? >> he disappeared, yeah. >> reporter: after coming to this mosque every day for two years, farook stopped. >> how can this happen?
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a guy who was very good, he doesn't have any problem with anybody, you don't hear him talking about those madmen, like the crazy terrorists. he never talked about those kinds of people. >> reporter: did the marriage change him? >> i suspect. i suspect. >> reporter: farook's co-worker says he's certain the marriage changed farook. >> do you believe that he was radicalized? >> yes. by the wife. i think he married a terrorist. >> he married a terrorist? >> yes. >> reporter: most puzzling, say friends, farook would be a good father and would have wanted to live a life with a family. >> i don't understand. how can a woman just leave her baby like this and do some crap like this? >> reporter: and just to give you an idea of how elusive she remained, at least in this community, there are 500 members of this mosque, registered
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members of this mosque. she attended services with her husband almost every single day but nobody at that mosque could identify her image. they don't remember what her voice sounded like. they don't remember anything about her personality. erin? >> it's amazing and stunning how little we know. kyung, thank you. and "outfront," the man who attended the same mosque at syed rizwan farook and his wife. there are so many questions that we have and perhaps you can answer some of them. you welcomed farook into your mosque. you were one of the first persons who meet him when he came to your mosque a couple of years ago. what was your impression at that time? >> until what happened on thursday, my impression was the same. you know, he was a gentleman, a very nice person, everyone that knew him always talked highly of him. until today. the community is shocked. he was such a sweet, young man.
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and that was how he was from the day i met him until we heard of this. so to try to deal with this, it's difficult for the community that knew him and had such qualities to do such a thing like this. >> and you knew him before he was married. cbs news spoke to one of his colleagues who said farook was different when he came home from saudi arabia. that is, of course, where he met his wife. you saw him before he went. you saw him after he went, when he came home and was married. did you see any kind of a change at all? >> no. absolutely not. and i also discussed this with my other members of my mosque, the other brothers. they also said the same thing, that they didn't see any type of difference in him before and after coming back from saudi arabia after he got married. my interaction with him was limited. yeah, it was frequent. yes, i would see him, as i mentioned, to the other
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interviews. i had met him at the mosque. he would come during his lunch break. he was working as a health inspector. so he would come during his lunch break to our local mosque and attend the noon prayer. i would talk to him for maybe five minutes or so. i wasn't somebody that was an intimate friend of his or in his inner circle so i wasn't somebody that knew any type of family problems that he had or any type of struggles that he was going through. he never shared anything like that with me. >> it sounds like he was observant, devout, but no more than any of you at the mosque. >> absolutely. >> did you ever meet his wife at the mosque or see her? >> no. because he was coming from work, there was no reason to bring his wife with him. he was coming from work. it's his lunch break. so, no, he never brought his wife to the mosque, to the san bernardino mosque that i ever
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remember. i do remember seeing his wife at a banquet. as i mentioned to the other interviewers, i participated in cooking the food for his banquet after he got married so we had a banquet at the riverside mosque and that's where i remember seeing her in the car and she had a veil over her face so i wouldn't be able to describe how she looked, what was the color of her eyes, her skin, how tall was she, was she skinny or fit, i can't answer any of things. he never described her or said anything about her. i don't have any information on that. >> he did have a 6-month-old baby daughter with her and this is part of the story that no one can ever understand. did he ever talk about that baby? >> no. actually, i remember in the beginning when he mentioned that his wife was pregnant and we hope and pray that god blesses them with a healthy baby and
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stuff like that. and we were waiting for him to, you know, give us the news of his wife, you know, giving birth and when he did, when she did, you know, and when he told us, i remember, you know, he was joyful, he was happy. and at that time, i remember he mentioned that he was going to go back to school to pursue his master's degree. so that alone told me, knowing that at that time and then learning of this, i don't understand, you know, a person that's going to go and do his master's degree, how could you have intention to do something like this as well. learning or hearing that somebody is going to get their master's degree, that just says that a person has an exciting life and wants to get somewhere in life, especially when this was his -- his daughter is born now. it seemed like a signal of him trying to, you know, progress in life, so to speak. >> well, nizzam ali, thank you so much. >> no problem. bye-bye. and now "outfront," the former cia, counterterrorism
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official phil mudd. you just heard nizzam ali. intelligent authorities say she may have been the one who radicalized him. what do you believe her role was in the attack? >> i think there's a couple ways to look at her role. the first is the radicalization role. my sense, and this is very unusual, i never remember seeing this at the bureau, that she was at least an equal partner. in the first years of 9/11, i don't remember a single female ever cropping up in any threat report and we talked every night, maybe a thousand threat briefings. there's a radicalization piece among equals, which is unusual. the second piece, erin, is even more important. emotional bond. two individuals are making a choice to murder innocence as a result poe tntentially of a political or religious belief. people together bounce off each other and persuade each other that this radical act is
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acceptable. one of the most troubling cases i ever witnessed, for example, was a father in north carolina in a case already prosecuted, on the wires, interception, we had him telling his sons to take head shots at officials. unbelievable. >> so this couple had this 6-month-old baby. this is obviously crucial but no one understands. farook was very proud, he used the word "joyful" when the baby was born. they registered online at target for baby gifts. how does this fit? how did she walk away from a newborn? >> pretty -- i think there's a simple explanation. it has two characteristics. number one is come part men tags, which we talked about. case after case, the family says, hey, they seemed normal. they had a normal family life. but they had a separate life we never witnessed. number two, what is the motivation for conducting the attack? it's a religious motivation which is much more significant and a higher calling than a
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child. the pain we have to undergo to practice what we believe, is sacrifice the child. they will sacrifice anything for it. >> phil mudd, thank you. up next, we'll go inside the shooters' home, left behind everything from their computer to chilling pictures of the boys and cribs. plus, was the marriage a front for terror? and we're learning about the innocent victims killed in the attacks. husbands, wives, co-workers killed at their holiday party. when emergency room doctors choose an otc pain reliever for their patients muscle, back and joint pain. the medicine in advil is their #1 choice. nothing is stronger on tough pain than advil. relief doesn't get any better than this. advil.
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ammunitions, remote control cars, we know that those were used to make at least one bomb. tonight, we also know what was left behind. after the fbi handed the apartment back over to the landlord, he let cnn and other media networks, babies, someone who bought a dog, went room to rook, picking up pictures, personal belongings left behind. stephanie elam was there inside that home and she's "outfront." >> reporter: unfinished food on the counter, broken glass on the living room floor, this is the townhouse that was shared by san bernardino mass shooters syed rizwan farook and his wife tashfeen malik. a crime scene mixed with baby toys. the baby's crib is to one side, a small desk is in another corner. the back bedroom holding more clues about the family. >> i was the first person to walk in and saw how it was
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before people started touching it. police looked at many things. i don't want to show you these i.d.s because i don't want to show you the addresses. i believe they wrong to the mother of farook, based on the ages that are there. there are some prayer books, pictures. when i first walked in, this group of prayer beads was sitting right here on the edge of the bed when i walked in as well. several prayer books that were all around the side of the bed here. some business cards. and plenty of the normal things that you would expect to see in the bedroom. i would see receipt for stores, normal store purchases, receipts, that kind of thing. there's so much media in here and one of the thing that you can see here is what i was telling you before, this right here. if you look right here, you can see that they smashed up into the ceiling to take a look to see what was up there. it does appear, based upon how much debris is on the ground, that there was an effort to get
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up there and make sure that they checked every crevice of this back bedroom and it seems like it may have been the back bedroom that was here. plenty of i.d.s, social security cards, plenty of things that are around here as well as plenty of signs of faith. a lot of signs of faith here. these are people who believed in their faith and referencing it. there are stickers and so forth all throughout the room but a lot of paperwork and also a lot of luggage up here as well, too. it looks like it's been stashed in the corner but definitely signs that this has been a room that has been ransacked not before the media got here but before the police as well. >> reporter: the landlord of the property invited the media inside. a surprising move because the investigation is still in the early stages. >> i need to assess the damage. >> yeah. >> it's a lot worse than what i thought. >> reporter: the fbi under fire
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for allowing the media and landlord into the home, explaining they were no longer responsible for the apartment since they released it last night. >> we executed a search warrant and last night we turned that back to the residents. once theress departments have the apartment and we're not in it anymore, we don't control it. >> reporter: there's a lot of discussion about the garage of this house, that this is where we've heard reports that they were making pipe bombs as a couple. we took a look at that. the garage is actually separated from this building. that part completely secure. you could not get in there. so no signs of that sort of activity was inside of the actual household, erin. >> pretty incredible stuff, stephanie. incredible to see you in there and all of the media. the scene that was happening in there was stunning, given the fact that so many things hadn't been removed by law enforcement. thank you so much. "outfront" now, chris swecker and art roderick. you saw stephanie's report about
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the media coming into the home. you saw stephanie's footage of licenses and social security cards, passports, lots of different i.d.s. there was even a shredder with paper in it. do you think that's really the case? >> i mean, we have to take their word for it. just when you think this case couldn't get any stranger, stuff like this happens today. and i have been in law enforcement for 38 years. i've never seen an open house hosted like this by the owner of the shooter's property there. it's a bizarre case. should they have left all of that stuff? they seem to be fairly confident that they got everything out that they needed. you know, i would have probably taken every single possible item out of that place that had any association with the wife or the husband. and go through it with a
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fine-tooth comb. as you heard the sack announce that they got everything out of there that they needed and turned the residence over to the owner. >> it does seem confusing, right? the shredder had shredded paper in it. and the i.d.s, wouldn't you take everything? it's pretty shocking that things like that were sitting around. >> yeah. i'm a little surprised. their evidence response teams are very, very thorough. and when you're going into a house like that with a search warrant, you're very limited in what you can take. it's based on probable cause, you're looking for terrorism or fruits of the crime. they may have decided that what they left behind has no relevance to the crime itself and no indicia of terrorism. >> what about the two smashed cell phones? they found cell phones that they took near one of the crime
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scenes and say it's relatively new so they were using burner phones or there could be a trail possibly. do you think they will be able to put them back together? >> when you look at this type of cell phones, i mean, in any types of these cases, you always try to find out how the individuals are communicating. to come across a cell phone, a computer, hard drives, any of that information is key. now, they should be able to know fairly quickly if they are able to get information off and how much damage was actually done to the phone or the hard drives. so i think we'll know fairly soon if they were able to get something off of it back in quaint co-at the cyberlab. it might take some type to actually withdraw the information out of there. >> chris, when we look at those i.d.s, one of them belonged to
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farook's mother, it appears. a neighbor told me that she was the one who often took care of the child. if she wasn't living there, she was there a lot of the time. his mother. and was staying at that apartment for some period of time. is it it possible that she had no idea what was going on, where she was living, building bombs? >> kind of hard to believe that she didn't know what was going on around her, living in the apartment and, you know, i would go back to what you mentioned about her i.d. i'm sure the fbi photographed everything in that apartment or townhouse. so they -- i don't think that they felt like what they left behind was relevant. again, the mother, the grandmother, that's pretty much a stretch since there were so many ieds laying around, it looked like an ied factory. >> so shocking that there was no clue. thank you both very much. "outfront" next, we're learning more about the male shooter, syed farook.
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breaking news, the fbi investigating the massacre in san bernardino is an act of terrorism. tonight, authorities are piecing together what motivated the couple behind the rampage. officials telling cnn that tashfeen malik, the wife of syed rizwan farook, you can see her face here, she's so much of a mystery that no online presence that anyone was aware of. this is, today, the first picture we are actually getting of her. and more details are emerging about farook's upbringing tonight. drew griffin is "outfront" tonight. >> reporter: a glimpse look of a family searching for answers. >> i asked myself if i had called him that morning or the night before, asked him how he was doing, what he was up to, if i had any inclination, maybe i could have stopped it.
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>> reporter: she's describing her brother syed rizwan farook, posting preferences that he liked to go out to cars and take target practice in his backyard and was looking for a girl who wears a veil. it was one of these dating sites that would take him to saudi arabia where he would meet his eve eventual wife and now dead. she lived in saudi arabia and came to the united states, married farook, had a child and seemingly left an impression on almost no one. >> she was very conservative. she was a stay-at-home mom, helping raising the child, taking care of the mother at the house. they were a very close-knit family. not too many people into much about them. >> reporter: despite becoming even more quiet and reserved after marriage, syed rizwan farook and his family were living a typical american life. he grew up one of three siblings
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living through a turbulent marriage between his parents. he was paid $53,000 a year as a health inspector. so far, any record is simply not there. >> we are also mourning the loss of someone we knew or thought we knew. so we would want everybody to give us some time to mourn or, you know, give some time, i guess. just like everybody else out there needs time to mourn. >> reporter: erin, the family did reportedly sit for hours of interviews with the fbi, the agents, trying to find any link or connection to anything that would explain this. according to the family attorneys, those agents left just as perplexed as the family. erin? >> it is amazing. drew griffin, thank you. "outfront" now, the former fbi special agent jim clemente and paul cruickshank. they are so perplexed and in
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other cases of lone wolf or isis-inspired terror in the united states, the trail to radicalization became very apparent after an attack. it was the questions that we were asking were, how did they not see it? and military recruitment center attack in tennessee, everybody at the mosque said they noticed a change. in the case of the boston bombers. but in this case, no one seems to have seen very much. right before the attacks she posted on facebook, i pledge allegiance to isis. that's all they've got. is that shocking? >> it's very surprising in some ways for everybody. that they wouldn't be on the radar screen. of course. but it seems that they were on the very edge of the radar screen for a sort of fbi point of view. they've clearly gone back and they've looked through all of the contacts and they've
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established that there are some sort of interesting contacts to extremists that were, erin, on their radar screen. you've got to remember that the sheer scale of this threat is very high and there's been a large number of people that they are having to monitor. it's really just a question of prioritizing all the time. >> jim, as farook and his wife were planning this attack, and we know it was planned and meticulously planned, they did not show any outward signs of radicalization, according to everyone we've spoken to so far. a friend on the show saw him every single day. he said at lunch at mosques he never noticed a change. his family said they never noticed anything. you just heard his sister. here's a little bit more of what she had to say. >> they were totally shocked. had no idea to the point where when they got word that an incident had taken place, they were worried about the health
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and safety of syed and tashfeen because they had so -- it was -- there's never been any evidence that either of the two alleged shooters were aggressive, had extremist views. >> that was the attorney for the family. but it echos what a lot of people have said. are you surprised that we haven't heard anybody really come forward and talk about their radicalization? >> well, erin, i think this is one of the most disturbing parts of the whole puzzle because we know now that they have been planning for quite some time. so this means that they had a criminal sophistication level that was fairly high in terms of keeping their plans, their training, their operations all secret. sole they must have been coached very well on how to do that. this gives me a lot of indicators that perhaps she was a -- she was actually deliberately put into his life to do this.
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>> interesting. and the question is by whom? a lot of people find had tard to believe that a mother could leave her child behind. she did have a 6 month old baby. it's contrary to human nature. but a recent study found one in seven recruits for isis are women. are we going to see more of this? that used to be the category of person we used to say, we don't need to look at that. >> yes. we've seen more than 500 women, well more than 500 women go and travel to join isis and other groups over there and women are becoming more involved. we've seen these husband and wife teams over the years, erin, getting involved in terrorism. this is a social movement now when it comes to isis. you're talking about mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters. all getting involved in this.
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all energized by that this caliphate of isis has been declared and many angered by the western strikes against it. so we're seeing that this social movement, really, when it comes to this isis. a lot of americans tonight will be shocked that this couple could have left their very young baby behind. but they believe -- the extreme mists believe that not only you will go to paradise but your close relatives will also go to paradise if you do jihad, if you die as a master as they see it. so that gives you some indication of their extremist beliefs. >> thank you both very much. "outfront" next, are calling this the worst terror attack since 9/11. is it only a terror attack when muslims are involved? and remembering the victims of the san bernardino shooting. if yand you're talking toevere rheumyour rheumatologiste me, about a biologic...
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inspired by isis. moments ago, though, an attorney for her husband's family, the male shooter's family, said they warned against calling the event an act of terror. >> when a christian blows up a planned parenthood or an extremist bombs an abortion clinic, all of the headlines don't see christian catholic just like right now every headline is saying, muslim. and attaching muslim to it. i think there's a tendency to take a cookie cutter version or paradigm of a terrorist-type event and superimpose it on a situation just because that person is of muslim belief or tradition. and i don't think we should jump to too many conclusions. >> "outfront" tonight, former new york city police commissioner bernie kerik and spokesperson for a muslim community usa. let me start with you, harris. some people have been saying this is the worst terror attack
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in the united states since 9/11. what do you say? >> well, to be honest, erin, the facts show to us that we don't contest that. it looks like the nature of the case is terrorism and not due to the fact that it's a muslim but due to the nature of the crime. this newtown, what happened at planned parenthood, what the buddhi buddhist monks are doing in myanmar, it's all terrorism. the american people are more worried about how to stop it rather than what caused it. >> let me interrupt you. when you say newtown was terror, more people died in newtown than died in san bernardino. so you would be taking issue with this being the worst terror attack since 9/11 in the u.s.? you're saying they are all terror but that label would be unfair, in your view? >> i do believe that -- to compare innocent lives is not very valuable. it's really about that these are all acts of terror happening in our country so we should talk about not just the labels about
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the solutions, how do we stop radicalization and these groups that are grip pelling our nation? and the leadership matters. look at the leaders, especially these disturbed people which is why we would say look at case studies. for example, his holiness who is the spiritual leader of the community who spent an active role on how to embody peace and love as opposed to peace and brutality and there is something to be said there. >> bernie, it is when people say worse since 9/11, there is an immediate fear that a lot of people fear when they hear this is an act of islamic terrorism and terror. but if newtown is an act of terror and did of course inspire terror around the nation, more people tragically died, then this wouldn't be the worst since 9/11. is the nation too quick to use the word terror only when it
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applies to muslim acts? >> no, i don't think so. each one of these events can be related to terrorism in some way, the threat of violence. you know, the threat, the intimidation. the reality is this, the principled focus is radical extremism. i listened to your prior segment and i have to say, you know, these guys got under the radar. you're going to see a lot more of this. the al qaeda training manuals, they tell these people, teach these people how to get under the radar, how to stay off social media, shave their beards. do all of this stuff. >> it's too much of a focus -- some people say look at the number of gun deaths in america at the hands of white people who
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are mentally ill and that number dwarfs. they say, why you so focused on islamic terror. >> these attacks have increased since september 11th, whether it's in paris or here. and what harris said is most important. how do we stop the radicalization and prevent these attacks from happening? where is the next attack going to happen and the fbi is already monitoring more than 900 people, according to james comey. that's a major concern. >> thank you both very much. next, we're learning more about the 14 people who lost their lives in this horrific shooting. men and women who worked together, they were at their holiday party and that was their last day.
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jennifer lost her husband nicholas. according to a friend, the 52-year-old born-again jew had a heated passionate conversation with politics and religion with his co-worker and gunman, syed rizwan farook just days before the shooting. >> i'm sure he would have talked to him and i'm sure they would have had discussions with religion because my husband would discuss religion with anybody that would listen. >> reporter: those close to robert adams tell cnn the 44-year-old always wanted to be a father. he married his high school sweetheart, summer, and finally got his wish last year when she gave birth to savannah. the couple had plans to take their 20-month-old to disneyland next week. benetta bet-badal, a mother of 3, moved to the u.s. from iran when she was 18 to escape religious persecution. her husband says everything she
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touched bloomed and her daughter, 15-year-old joel lean, is left with the memory of her mother's advice. >> she used to tell me that, like, if i do go, i want everybody to stay strong. i don't want you guys grieving or like crying. that's what i'm going off of that. >> michael wetzel leaves behind six children. on a fundraising website for his family, his wife writes, "i didn't know a better person. he loved his work and his family so very much. without him, this family will never be the same. we appreciate all the love and support that everyone is showing." daniel kaufman worked at a coffee shop at the inland regional center. >> people said his smile would light up the room. this is true of daniel. >> reporter: ryan reyes said he tried to reach his boyfriend again and again to no avail. the l.a. times captured this photo when he finally got the news that his partner was gone.
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>> unfortunately, it's events like this that really show you how important people are and how much people can actually impact other people's lives. >> what did he mean to you? >> he meant the world to me. he meant the absolute world to me. >> back to nicholas thalasinos, he was very outspoken about his beliefs on social media. the day before the shooting on tuesday he said that he received a death threat he was having an argument with online. there was no indication, it's very important to point out, that in any way that death threat developed into what happened on wednesday. the two appear to be completely separated. just an erie coincidence. >> all right. thank you so much. and among the victims, there are a number of heroes, people who tried to save others and this weekend we honor our heroes. ♪ >> our heroes don't fly.
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>> thanks for joining us, set your dvr to record "outfront." "ac 360" begins right now. good evening again from san bernardino. tonight new answers in the act of terror here that took a look at the act of terror. the picture originally obtained by abc news. about the same tile -- time they put up a picture and how they armed themselves and modified at least one of the semi and we learned more about what proceeded the shooting, the big question remaining, did the gunman argue with one of his co-workers or not before the shooting? th
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