thanks for joining us. 6:00 p.m. here in san bernardino tonight investigating the killing of 14 people as an act of terrorism and the first look at the female half of the husband and wife terror team that carried out the attack. the picture obtained by abc news

about the same tile the massacre got underway, the wife put up a facebook post pledging allegiance to isis. >> clearly a lot has changed since 24 hours ago when we spoke because evidence came to light leading officials to believe this was an act of terrorism. this new evidence includes this facebook post by the wife pledging alliance to al baghdadi, the leader of isis during the time before the shooting and also officials are getting more evidence taken from electronics from the house, human sources and people they are interviewing. with the new information that has come to light, they are learning more toward terrorism but i will say, anderson and we heard today, there was still a lot of question marks and a lot of the evidence isn't adding up and partly it's the workplace dispute angle of things, what actually happened there and there is some other things that are a little nebulous in terms

of terror connections. we're hearing there is no direct tie to a terrorist group. the question will be were they influenc influenced, inspired by a group like isis? they are looking at whether this was a couple self-radicalized. >> gary tuchman talking to the chief of police that says they have interviewed all the people that they have had access to, none of them exempt for one said there was a dispute or knew anything about a dispute. one person said there had been a dispute and the two people i talked to were there an hour ahead said they had not heard anything about a dispute or seen a dispute in the hour they were there prior to the attack. that's initially what led to kind of workplace angle but it still leaves the possibility i there was a longer term grudge which is why he may have targeted this place everyone though it's an act of terror. >> that's a theory among officials, there was something more deeply seeded, something more long term perhaps religious issues with someone else there. that's what they are focussing on now more than something that

th happened the day of. this was premeditated and planning going on. >> if it wasn't this target, it would have been another target. >> right, exactly. in fact, another theory that they are trying to figure out is did they plan on attacking another target and then switch gears and attack the workplace? i will say that has thrown investigators through a loop the fact that he attacked his workplace and normally a terrorist attack is toward a more symbolic government entity or a place like a restaurant, a mall but the fact he targeted this place of work is really such a mystery at this stage. >> interesting, pamela brown, thanks for the reporting. how investigators are determining the extent of wider connections this couple may have had to isis as well as the woman's precise role in this. joining me is chris sweker and georgia state's university mia bloom and with us is bob baer.

mia, we know this man's wife pledge allegiance to isis. you think she may have been a driving force in the attack. >> we've seen the case after charlie hebdo, she was the more radical of the two when he took hostages to the kosher market. we have a templet of women in the jihadi movement they are the spark for radicalization but i think the timeline is significant. everyone says that it's only within the last two years that he became a little more religious, began to grow a beard and in fact from what i've heard he stopped going to the mosque a few weeks ago and so this seeming radicalization is consistent with the time period that he has been with malik. >> chris, the fbi is now saying this is being investigated as an act of terror.

does that change how law enforcement go about their job? the fbi was involved and talking about signs of possible terrorism and you and i talked about that two nights ago? >> well, with the exception of the fbi taking the lead from the san bernardino police department, it does change things particularly as i suspect this is opened as an international terrorism investigation. this is a whole different set of investigative techniques that invokes fisa and certain components of the patriot act so it's an intelligence investigation if it is in fact opened as an international terrorist investigation. very different from a domestic terrorist investigation and makes a big difference with the fbi. >> and bob, i mean, they have got to look at this from all angles, possible domestic connections and international, as well. >> there may have been a network here. there is certain possibility with the phones but who is this woman and where did she grow up

and what mosque and who was she in contact with in pakistan and audio arabia. i'm very suspicious about the saudi angle and mecca and who did he see? did somebody give him the wife? she may have been planted. looks like it. this is not a normal way to find a spouse going to saudi arabia. they will be looking at that and depends how corporative the saudis are. they may know something. depends if they tell us or not. >> and pakistan, as well. >> i'm suspicious of them, too. >> the size of this couple's arsenal, i mean, when you look how this attack unfolded, how it ended for them in that suv, mia, you believe they had plans for something much bigger, this conference center was not their only target and i guess the question is was it their original target, as well? >> you know, i just get a sense that first of all, it could be a

hybrid. it could have elements both of a terrorist attack that was planned to be much larger and this is where i agree with bob, there may be remaining individuals who were going to perpetrate the attack with them. there were allegations from their neighbors that people have becoming and going to the house but i think also for me this wouldn't have been the first primary target because had he intended to shoot up the party, he would have brought the guns with him when he first went. he wouldn't have gone to the party, left, and returned. this is not a good target. this isn't going to resonate. you got a bunch of kids, disabled kids, people of various backgrounds including a muslim. this is not a kind of target that will resonate and get isis a lot of support. so that's why i don't think that this was the original target. >> chris, if in fact these two were self-radicalized and didn't have directions with the larger

isis, a bigger network overseas, the fact that they had people coming and going into that house, i mean, you're suspicious that somebody must have seen something that you can't have all these pipe bombs, all this equipment, all these guns and ammunition and visitors to the home not notice something. >> that's exactly what i believe. i mean, when you look at the inventory from the search warrant, it's a virtual bomb factory and 7,000 rounds of ammunition if you include in the car, that was build up over time. all that equipment, all the remote toy equipment that the small toy cars that have remote devices on them, such a device attached, you can't miss all that. i see this as leading to other indictments of aiders and abetters locally but as i said with the bank records they will

be chasing down and i noticed bank receipts in inventory and chasing that down, all the media, all the communications, several cell phones in there, sim cards. i hope they got the sim cards. i think this will take us where we all suspect it will go at this point into the international arena and i'm also suspicious of the internet recruitment part where he met her on the internet. that really raised my -- got my attention when i first saw that. >> chris, appreciate you being on and mia bomb and bob will stick around. we got to take a quick break. there is a lot more ahead over the course of the hour, more on the female terrorist and her possible role in the plot. we'll dig deeper and who people in the mosque where she once worshipped and was married in actually knew about her. later dr. sanjay gupta talks to a swat team member and a doctor. this is my family.

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breaking news, the first look at the female half of the husband and wife team that carried out the deadliest killing since sandy hook. she posted on facebook about the same time as the killings pledging allegiance to isis. kyung lah has been digging into the past of this woman who was a mystery even of those she worshipped with. >> reporter: investigators are honing in on tashfeen malik. she is a woman few members of the islamic center in riverside remember. that's the mosque syed rizwan farook attended and celebrated

the marriage last year. >> the service was there. the women were up there? >> right. >> reporter: women are separated from the men so the director of the islamic center never met malik. she's a mystery to many including those who knew her best. according to attorneys, syed's brother never saw her face. >> men did not interact with her and the brothers did not actually ever see her face. they have never seen her face because she did wear a vail. >> reporter: the couple met like many today, on the web. farook was on a dating website and turned to cuco for marital advice. >> he said i feel comfortable with this person and i believe she's a good woman. she's a descent woman. she's a religious woman. >> reporter: he says farook flew to saudi arabia to meet malik.

she often visited over the years from pakistan. he went again in june 2014. documents show she entered the u.s. a month later. their marriage certificate filed says they were legally married in august of that year. members of the mosque first met malik at the wedding ceremony held here. farook's friend was among the 300 who attended the wedding. >> when she come here, he looks good, was looking good. >> reporter: then he disappea d disappeared. >> he disappeared. >> reporter: after coming to the mosque every day for three years, he stopped. >> how can this happen? a guy that is good and have no problem with anybody, you don't hear him talking about those madmen like those crazy terrorists, he never talk about those kind of people. >> reporter: did the marriage change him? >> i suspect. i suspect there is something wrong. >> reporter: farook's co-worker

tells cbs news he's certain the marriage changed farook. >> do you believe that he was radicalized? >> yes, by the wife. i think he married a terrorist. >> he married a terrorist? >> yes. >> reporter: most puzzling say friends, farook would be a good father and would have wanted to live a life with a family. >> i don't understand. how can a woman just leave her baby like this and go do some crap like this? >> kyung joins us. what's the latest on how the shooter's family is responding. >> reporter: they had a news conference and defensive. the attorney saying where is the proof or tie this is definitivety terrorism. he did admit the family didn't know the knew wife that rare and the brothers never saw her face. she chose not to drive and they were a traditional family and say they just didn't know her. that's something we kept hearing throughout the day.

>> thank you. throughout the day this notion is puzzling and certainly more than just a little bit chilling. a couple with a 6 month old daughter with plenty to live more and plenty to lose getting themselves on to a path that would lead them to kill and die. safe to say does not fit the traditional pattern and that likely made it easier for them to plan the act of terror under the radar. back with us now here is bob baer and joining us tonight is jim beerman, former police chief of redlands, california, what do you make of what we have learned over the last 24 hours? the fbi saying this is being investigated as an act of terror. what do you want to zero in on? >> i think local law enforcement needs to know what their role will be in this. counterterrorism people are doing their thing but we saw a massive rapid deployment to the point of attack and region so i think local police leaders want to hone that.

>> you say local police around the country need to look at how they are -- their relations with muslim communities, their -- the flow of information and they need to make sure that there are open channels of communication. >> absolutely. the current conversation about this nation is police reform and community engagement and building trust and confidence between communities and police they serve is critically important in this because it's going to be somebody from the muslim community who has trust and faith in the police who sees something suspicious that's going to notify the police department. >> and says this guy left the mosque, he was devote here and noticed changes, you know, i don't want to raise red flags but take a look at this. something like that is critical. >> exactly. they won't do that if they don't have faith in the police. >> somebody must have known something. some -- somebody who visited that apartment must have had suspicions. >> anderson, not only the apartment, in fact, they probably never used the garage

and also the question of her behavior because she was behaving like a wahoobie and that was a flag. >> which was in the her original branch of islam according to everything i've read. >> she picked this up not showing her face and withdrawing that completely. that would have been a red flag in the mosque and i think from there, somebody should have flagged the fbi. the fbi has got to be more intrusive, i hate to say that. they have to. if we get more of these shooters, people will demand protection and we should get ahead of this. as we've been talking about, there are more cells out there and we have to give the fbi more authority. >> one of isis' strategies in this in encouraging this sort of stuff is to promote an over reaction and divide -- to build a wedge between, you know, main stream muslim populations in the united states and the rest of the american population.

>> exactly. they want the united states to repress muslims in order they get more recruits. >> that's what isis wants. >> exactly and that's why they attacked this center and killed people they know because it's so awful and terrible that it's terrified this country. >> makes everybody look over their shoulder. >> that's what they want. >> you agree with that? >> i absolutely do. that's why this is so important as fast as they can, they need to meet with the leaders and having these conversations about how we cannot allow that to occur, we cannot allow isis to drive that wedge between us in this country and if we're not careful, that will happen. >> you look at the millions of muslims in america well asemilated, law-abiding with this sort of thing but very easy to drive the wedge. >> anderson, i read the koran and this is not in islam. this is a cult. this is a death cult in muslims and the united states and police and fbi have to come together and kill this thing.

>> bob and jim, good to have you again, still ahead, the debate on guns taking center stage and captain mark kelly and his wife gabby giffords met with president obama about the issue. he joins me next. we'll be right back.

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what happened here in san bernardino is sparking calls for changes to gun laws. last hour we showed you how easy it is for someone to build a stock pipe of weapons and political issue. just this morning the senate failed to pass three gun rae

la -- related measures and president obama sat down with gabby giffords who along with her husband co-founded americans for responsible solutions calling for expanded background checks to reduce gun violence in the u.s. and ms. giffords was of course the victim of gun violence herself back in 2011 and her husband captain mark kelly was also at that meeting and joins me now. captain kelly, thanks for being with us. the fact the fbi is investigating this as a terrorist act with two shooters as opposed to something that fits the pattern of other mass shootings, does it change your view of how you ex-c congress woman giffords approaches this. >> the one thing this highlights as does the shooting in colorado springs is that we have a serious gun violence issue and people that die every year up to 33,000 people in this country die every year from gun

violence, and as you pointed out, anderson, our lawmakers refuse to do anything about it. >> to someone who says look, if somebody had been armed inside that room, maybe the end result would have been different, you say what? >> i served in the military for 25 years, anderson. i've been in combat, i've flown airplanes in combat and been shot at a lot. the people that normally talk in the terms don't know a lot about what it feels like to be in that situation. and somebody who comes in, two individuals with high-powered semiautomatic rifles is going to be, you know, somebody with a handgun is going to be no match for that firepower. you know, i would say, you know, there are probably situations where it could help but in general, the solution is to try to make it difficult for people who are criminals, dangerously mentally ill, even terrorists to get guns in this country. right now it is just too easy.

>> you obviously as we said met with president obama as did congresswoman giffords at the white house today. what, if anything, do you think can come out of that? did the president say about the chances of actually getting something passed and signed into law? >> we talked about what happened in the senate in the last couple days. to have the opportunity for the united states senate to vote to close this terror gap, i mean, we have a large number of people on the terrorist watch list. they currently have easy access to firearms here in the united states, and this is not a bill that president obama put forth. this came from george w. bush that we really should make it difficult for terrorists to get fire arms when they get here to the united states and that bill failed. we talked about this, the victim and the shootings and how this has become a regular event and the sad thing is that congress has not acted on this serious

issue. >> it does seem that for those -- you know, there are many people who want some form of greater background checks but is this an issue people vote on and until it is, will there be real change? >> well, there is certainly a group of people that are enthusiastic gun rights supporters that take this on as their only issue so they only vote on this issue and that is certainly a problem. you know, we've signed up and mobilized 1 million people and we're trying to make them single issue voters, as well because besides the money that the gun lobby has to influence members of congress, you know, the enthusiasm of the person voting for these congressmen and congresswomen is an issue, as well, so we've got to, you know, we've got to compel, you know, our citizens out here to care about the issue. they do and polling shows they do. when you look at the terror gap

and bill voted on just the other day, 82% of gun owners, not americans, 82% of gun owners support closing the terror gap. >> and yet, you know, even after sandy hook, the horror of sandy hook and now this is the worst incident of mass shooting since sandy hook, nothing changed. >> well, you know, as an organization, americans for responsible solutions, we're having and getting positive change in a lot of different states. we help pass expanded background checks in a number of different states. we've help pass domestic violence situation and we were part of the team of people that did a ballot initiative of background checks in the state of washington. at the state level, there has been a lot of positive results with new legislation to keep people in their communities safer. hopefully at some point, members of congress will see this is something the people want and it

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immigration officials. in the wake of the tragedy, questions are being raised about whether enough is being done to screen applicants. tom foreman is in d.c. with more. >> if you're an american that wants to marry someone from overseas, you need this k 1 or fiancee visa and starts with paperwork, nine pages of explanations followed by six pages that you have to fill out. what does the government want to know on these pages? first of all, they want to know the american that wants to marry the immigrant is a u.s. citizen. they want to know they will marry within 90 days and need to know these people have physically been together sometime in the last two years so it's not a mail order bride or human trafficking issue. the immigrant will have to supply a valid passport, a birth certificate, a divorce or death certificate for any previous

spouse, police certificate to show wherever they lived showing they weren't a criminal and medical records showing they aren't bringing a disease and evidence of income to show this couple can pay the bills. if they get through that, they can pay a $340 filing fee and will go through fingerprints and the state department will do background checks on this immigrant where they came from, who they know, all sorts of things to make sure the information that's been presented is accurate and that they are not trying to fool anyone and after all of that, then it comes to what you mentioned a face-to-face interview where government officials are grill this immigrant for details about their relationship and anything that shows this person isn't who they claim they are and the relationship isn't what they claim they will be. this process will take a year, maybe more, maybe less depending on the specifics of the case and case load. that's fast compared to other

visas but look at the number of these being used out there because immigration advocates talk about this and say look, there aren't that many in a country of 230 million people. back in 2004 you look at the numbers and move down here and this may be what they scrutinize, this spike in 2014 to almost 44,000 but still, the people who look at immigration closely say this is not an easy process to get through, specifically because they don't want people gaming the system and getting in in some irresponsible or illegal fashion. anderson? >> all right. tom, thanks. i want to bring in michael weiss, author of "isis inside the army of terror" and lorenzo, the director of the program on extremism at george washington university and the co-author of isis in america and takes an in-depth look at supporters of isis. lorenzo, you analyzed about 300

people, is there a profile susceptible to their propaganda? >> absolutely not. it's an extremely diverse bunch. we have converts, 40% of them charged so far are converts and people born into the muslim faith and all kinds of social economic backgrounds. most people are well integrated and drifteders and petty criminals. it's absolutely impossible to profile. the majority of people have been charged or investigated in the states are u.s. citizens. are people who are born and raised in this country. so this would be somewhat different from the other cases. >> so i mean, michael, you've said this attack changes the game for isis in the u.s. how so? >> well, i mean, they always had two separate programs if you like to their foreign operati s operations. one was dispatch the sleeper cells from the caliphate and

those networks would radicalize and recruit and plot and perpetrate operations such as the one in paris and the other side of it is i mean, i sort of recall this crowd sourcing jihad. all of this prop, the propaganda and literature isis puts out, they have a monthly magazine they publish in multiple languages and they have all these videos, in fact, the last isis video that i saw is one of the most startlingly impressive pieces of propaganda i've seen and i study this for a living to be honest and the goal here is to simply do essentially what happened just now, get people to becomrakocome radicalized with isis agents. this is the thing. while isis goes to bed in raqqah and people are plotting these attacks. in away, it's sort of an invisible army of soldiers and, you know, they don't have to all

be lucky or successful. it's the old ira rule, law enforcement in the west, you have to be lucky all the time. we just have to be lucky once. isis is throwing everything it has at us and, you know, unfortunately the law of statistics shows it's going to be successful every once in awhile. >> lorenzo, if it's all over the map, who is susceptible, how do you then police this? how do you then keep an eye out for this? >> it's very difficult. most of the people are active on social media, not all but the vast majority are and seems that was the case also here but of course, most of what their act -- activities are protected by the first amendment and also the numbers of people are isis sympathizers are unprecedented. the mobilization in the u.s. is so big compared to the past it's not as big as some western european countries like france or belgium but much bigger with

the numbers of al qaeda mobilized of americans so the resources are being stretched quite thin which can monitor people for a long time and understanding what individual will make the leap from being a keyboard warrior just fanaticizing about the caliphate and killing infidelities to actually doing something is very difficult. there is the fact a lot of these conversations with moving more and more to encrypted spaces. the first contact might be made on facebook, twitter, instagram but then they move to platforms like wicker, snapchat which are much more difficult to track so the fbi is really playing catchup when it comes to manpower and technology here. >> michael, you know, there is such debate about refugees and the background checks and how accurate are they. you look at what tom foreman was reporting on, you know, the visa program, the nine pages, you fill out most of that to see

whether the marriage is legitimate and does raise the question how extensive are these background checks if in fact it turns out that this woman was the one who was perhaps more radical or radicalized first. >> right, also we don't know, i mean, the process of radicalization, not like one day you wake up and become a terrorist. this happens over the course of months and years so rankly it stands to reason this could have happened during the, what, 25 years or so but could have happened when she came to the united states. we don't have enough information. with respect to the refugee question, we talked about this a lot. to date, no syrian refugee since isis debuted has been accused of found guilty of committing any act of terrorism and let's be honest. even if you don't have any humanitarian consideration whatsoever for the people of syria, this is a war, this is going to be a long game and we are going to need syrians who understand isis and lived under the dreaded rule and understand

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the husband and wife terror team fired between 65 and 75 rounds killing 14 people. as horrible as that is, it could have been worse if not for the quick actions of first responders. a doctor part of a swat team. here is chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. >> before any member of his team arrived, dr. michael neeki was there minutes before the shooting began. >> from airway to stabilization of the field to bandage. >> reporter: he's a new kind of first responder, a hybrid of healer and soldier, a doctor and member of the swat team. ready to defend as well as save lives. >> a good guy should be able to

defend himself ask also help everybody else. >> reporter: in order to do that, not only does he need to carry his medical equipment but he has to carry a gun, as well. a gun much like the one used by the shooters. >> well, you know, i don't want to get hurt. if somebody really have an intention like that yesterday where he was coming and shooting everybody and i'm the first one that gets there as active shooter responds, i want to defend myself and civilians down there. >> ready? >> ready, sir. >> reporter: that's dr. neiki on the right. one day after the shooting, we followed dr. neeki to this shooting facility. >> ready? >> ready sir. >> reporter: and this is another part of being a brand-new sort of doctor, going through training like this with other members of the swat team to try to make sure that he can defend himself in situations where he's taking care of other patients. >> we're now going to this

assault rifle injury type pattern which rips and spreads apart organs in your body, tissues in the body, vessels as they are going through. our tactics are changing for law enforcement. we go side way, now to the front to expose less organ injuries. >> that's interesting. instead of going like this. >> go side way and goes through both lung and the heart and the other side where you go from the front now you have a plate that protects your heart and one lung or the other you can still be functional. >> that's fascinating. because you see people approaching the lower profile. >> reporter: he grew up in iran and served in the military there so guns and combat aren't new to him but he never thought he'd have to use those skills in america. did you ever think your experiences in the middle east were going to be useful here? >> never in a million years but now that i am here, i am, you know, this is one of my duties. i mean, when you sign -- it's a

privilege to work here and privilege to be part of this team to serve the community out there. it's the least i could do. >> first of all, sanjay, he's an immigrant himself coming here and kind of pushing the into a new kind of way of responding first. >> this was an active situation so you literally are running into a situation where doctors will be put in a cold area until the area was secured. that takes too long. lives will get lost because people are waiting too long for care so he goes in. he got there before the other members of swat team. >> treating people. >> taking pressure off of lungs, stopping bleeding, things that save lives. he's got his assault rifle and handgun because as you heard, he needs to be able to defend himself. >> incredible story to see. >> i should tell you, as well, one of the victims we've been talking about, a woman who was also an immigrant from iran, he

found out yesterday he knew her and she died. >> i interviewed her family last night. >> you interviewed her family. she has three children, same age as his children. when i told him, he literally started weeping and said to me he wishes he could have gotten there even sooner because of her and people like her. >> just incredible story. sanjay, thank you. last hour, we read a letter that the family of denise perazza asked us to share with you. they wanted us to read it to honor shannon johnson who they say saved denise's life. i want to read part of the letter to you. i'll always remember his left arm wrapped around me holding me as close as possible next to him behind the chair. amids the chaos i'll always remember him saying these three words, i got you. shannon johnson did not survive the shooting. his girlfriend shared memories. >> i'm going to miss him terribly. everybody will. >> it's a broad question but tell us a little bit about

shannon. >> shannon, shannon johnson was covered in tattoos. he had a big bush beard but he was a kitty cat. he was the anyone has ever met. meat friends very easily. he was always great at sports. he -- he loved people. and animals. just everybody. he just loved people. he loved telling stories. >> do you remember what he said about syed? >> he liked syed. syed's religion was very important to them. everybody's religion there is very important to them. and shannon just wanted everybody to know that every religion is important i knew he

was there. that was his group. and this kind of thing happens often enough and he and i had discussions about what what we would do in an event like this. i'm ducking and covering. and he said, no, screw that. i would charge. i would go after that gun. he was not afraid to die. and so -- so i knew if there was a gunman, shannon went after. he wasn't hiding anywhere. his brother knew it. everybody. had that feeling. he had an incredible soul. yeah, it's a loss for humanity. he gave out good vibes. so i hope through all of this and talking to you and other people that we can keep those good vibes going and just reverberate them. sometimes it became uncomfortable, how much love he was showing me. i wasn't totally used to it. but i got used to it. and he -- he let me know that he

loved me very much and i let him know how much i loved him in the last few months together. that's the first thing that went through my mind, he wanted to spend the rest of his life with me and he did. he was a man of his word. >> a man of his word. shannon johnson was 45 years old. just ahead what we are learning about some of the others, their lives, their dreams and what they've left behind.

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in our last hour we brought you the interviews of two survivors of wednesday's attack. they wanted to honor their colleagues they described as a close-knit group. they were co-workers and friends who considered themselves family who are vowing to get through it together. day by day we are learning more about the 14 lives that were cut short. here's randy kaye. >> reporter: sierra clayborn was just 27 when she died in san bernardino. on facebook she had written i am dedicated to enjoying my new life that god so graciously gave me. so i thank him all that i can and live life to the fullest. i love my life. a friend posted on her page,

calling her a bright star whom he could always count on for support. michael wetzel a supervising environmental health specialist leaves behind six children. >> my name's mike. this is -- >> a friend said that wetzel loved babies. he coached a team of five-year-old girls learning soccer for the first time. and his wife posted my husband was in the meeting where the shooting happened. please, please pray that he is okay. wetzel was 37. that woman fled to america from iran to escape islamic extremism. she and her husband, a police

officer have three children ages 10 to 15. >> everything she touched bloomed. doing what she did with the county, there is not one person that would say anything negative about her. >> 46-year-old bet-badal. on her fundraising page loved ones wrote it is the ultimate irony that he life would be stolen by the same time of extremism she fled so many years ago. at 52, nicholas thalasinos was a devout believer. they were messianic jews. she told the l.a. times her husband was outspoken against islamic terrorism adding i'm sure he wept down fighting and protecting people. 31-year-old tin nguyen was looking forward to getting married. he was a county health

inspector. one cousin told the paper you cannot imagine how caring she is. she had such a big heart. she was reportedly trying on wedding dresses her mother telling reporters they were planning a wedding and now they're having a funeral. randy kaye, cnn, atlanta. >> there is so much pain here. we've met so many good people here enough good people to know that all those hurting tonight will be in good hands as they move forward and try to heal. that does it for us tonight. "cnn tonight" with don lemon starts now. >> stay with me. it's 10:00 p.m. on the east coast and 7:00 p.m. in san bernardino. anderson, let's start with you, you have been covering this for the last two hours. we're getting new details from the chief of police about whether there was a dispute about this holiday party that may have prescipitated any