>> breaking overnight, a ups facility evacuated in san bernardino, california a. deliveryman has a package addressed to one of the shooters. the bomb squad urgently called to the scene. new images this morning of the one of the shooters, his wife, tashmeen malik. cnn is learning new information about her possible ties to isis. >> and it was that point in time, you know, when we all heard the gunfire right outside

the door and all turned to look at the door to watch them come in. >> and we hearing more about those terrifying moments in the social service center from the people trapped inside and how some got auto alive. >> we are always so grateful for your company. thank you for being with us. i'm kristi paul in atlanta. >> i'm victor blackwell. this morning, we are following several new developments here if san bernardino. just moments ago, isis' official radio station broadcasted the california attack was carried out by a quote supporters and they are, this is also a quote, pray fog god to accept them as martyrs. also, we have you in pictures of tashmeen malik. one of the attackers. officials say she pledged allegiance on facebook during the sunni rampage with her husband farook.

that was under a different name. now the fbi has searched their apartment, along with baby toys and regular items. i was in that apartment yesterday. there were pipe bombs with agents, more than 5,000 rounds of am 96. guns as well. authorities say the home this morning was was a place where they carefully planned this shooting. extensive planning. the killers tried to destroy digital finder prints. of course, we know, 14 people were killed in this attack and cnn is covering every angle of this story as only cnn can. we are live if redlands, california, right in front of the condo that this couple shared with their mother and tear six month old daughter. what is the latest on the

latest? >> reporter: a potential isis link, victor. a significant development here and very important. if they confirm that, that would make wednesday's shooting the deadliest tack linked to a terrorist group overseas. then you hear from the family who say the people should not rush to judgment. they still want undeniable proof from the feds that they were radicalized. san bern on edge overnight police evacuated a ups facility and called in the bomb squad to investigate a package addressed to the home of syed froovenlth it turned out to be safe posing no threat this comes as the fbi announces it is investigated as an act of terrorism. >> we are spending a massive amount of time trying to

understand the motive and detame of their lives. >> reporter: more information tasht mean malik. she posted a pledge of allegiance to isis leader abu bakr al baghdadi on facebook while the shooting was happening. the mass shooting may have been inspired by isis. but the terror group apparently did not direct or order the attack it may be the case of a possibility that left family members baffled. >> i asked him how he was doing. if i had any inclination, maybe i could have stopped it. >> meanwhile, police are downplaying the possibly that farook appeared angry win he left the regional center, only to return heavily armed with his wife. >> we had initial information from a witness or some witnesses that left the party and provided information that it appears he left upset or under some form of

duress. there is also indication from other people that he was there. there was nothing out of the ordinary and suddenly he was gon gone. >> reporter: coming up, a few things changed, yesterday you see that particle board back up in the doorway, also in the windows since we got a first look inside. but i have to say, you lookup stairs, you are able to see through the window of a room that is still lit t. ceiling fan still rotating. also a computer there. no telling what federal vergs were able to pull from that computer when they were here a few days ago. >> yes, going inside that apartment, it looks as if someone left that home in a hurry. we know farook another mother was there with that six month old granddaughter. we got a look inside the home. we will take viewers inside in a moment. i wonder if you look through this list now of the items

seized be i the fbi. what have you seen on that list? >> what's interesting. you get to notice they're going to rebuild their digital foot prints. we heard about it nearby that had been smashed and the hard drive damaged as well. obviously, that is some of the crucial evidence that was recovered. i have to say, much of that was put on a plane on thursday, headed to quantico, virginia. i think out of that long list of evidence. important evidence, digital one, hard drive computers. of course, online conversations and recordings. >> all right. pablo sandeval. well get to that right now.

military analyst, retired colonel rick franko that. let's start with this message from isis overnight on this radio calling them supporters. praying. >> supporters, not fighters. they're making the distinction between those in paris, those were fighters. these are supporters. it looks opportunistic on the part of isis. they are grabbing on what they see as an opportunity to spread their message. it's good for certainly moej messaging operation. >> this is consistent with the assumption this is self radicalization. >> i think everything we are seeing looks to be that way. >> this driver who was, thank god for him paying if you have attention, the names and addresses, he went back to the

ups facility. it turned out that package was taped? >> cudos to the driver picking that up. fantastic. the package could have been delivered late. it might have been ready to show up a couple days ago. i know it was rendered safe at the facility, but it would be good to find out what they had ordered there. >> go aheadch. >> we're trying 20 figure out if anybody else is involved. all this is going to become important. that's another piece of evidence. this digital signature is going to come. the cell phones. >> critical. >> anything they can grown from these computers. the network, who kaukd to who, who is more involved? when i' ethe cell phones, i see

somebody to support these people. >> that's the key part, in every single criminal case we do, any fugitive we're looking for, any crime that's committed. you always want to find the devices they are using totune indicate with supporters or other people. >> so these cell phones, hard drives, anything that they're using for communication is key to this case. it's going to take, i think they'll be able find out relatively quickly that fair i they're cable i eight get, how destroyed the phones are. how is the hard drive messed up? i think they will find out fairly quickly if they are able to extract information off. it might be longer, once they physical out how badly damaged they are. >> and the cell phones are kind of an interesting facet to this right now. we're going through this nsa under surveillance debate in congress and they've changed the laws and is it going to hamper their ability to go in and find out who was talking to who and is there a network and who were they talking to? >> we will continue this

conversation, okay, throughout the morning. thank you so much. i especially want to get to, if this is self radicalization, why so many of them? >> there were half a dozen. they smashed the relatively new ones. were they trying to hide connections? let's talk about the female shooter. tashmeen malik, wasn't the first female to pledge allegiance to the terror group. we seen a couple women in this past year or so publicly brian todd looks at the increasing number of isis sympathizers in the u.s. and the role that women play in the race. >> reporter: the 27-year-old female attacker was born in pakistan and later traveled to saudi arabia at least twice, according to a saudi official. she med syed rizwan farook there. she traveled to the united states on a fiancee visa. she often wore a burqa.

>> she did maintain certain traditions. she prayed five tiles a day and chose not to drive. >> farook possessed a desire for a woman that wears a hijab. the fbi asked if it was tashmeen malik that influenced farook. >> i don't know if she influenced him or not. >> i believe it's impossible she influenced him when we look at the islamic state, we tend to read her through the men around her, whether it's the boyfriend, the husband or a cousin, you know, that is a reason for her support for the islamic state or any other political movement and with this case, we are being forced to reexamine that. >> the couple won be the first bonnie and clyde spyder by terrorists. the widow of a radical one in

the couple. she is believed to be with isis in syria as is sally jones the widow of top isis operative hussein in the isis incity greater. the filed attempt in may to shoot up a prophet mohammed cartoon contest if garland, texas. jones is now believed to be a key recruiter tore isis. in a sobering support on isis sympathizers, george washington university say many supporters are women adept at social media. >> jo na mean e means bribe, paradise. you see women are more prolific than men. they tend to write more, to post a lot of things, they tend to have a lot ofks. >> reporter: those account, he says, are used for propaganda and recruitment of women. a source close to the saudi government tells cnn she was not on a saudi watch list or the

suspicious activities. brian todd, cnn, walk. >> report, this morning we've talked about what was taken by fbi acts out of the home of syed farook. next i will take you into that condo. it is by far the most bizarre day that i've had in a very long time going inside this home. we will take you inside, show you what we have found. plus, the u.s. now running out of bombs to drop on isis. a report on what's behind the shortage. also, a chilling eye witness account of the san bernardino massacre. anderson cooper sits down with two of the survivors. this is a cnn exclusive. >> i was at the back table near the exterior door. >> because you were on a break at the current time in. >> i was at the tables getting coffee and taking out the

goodies that were sitting there and it was at that point if time, you know, when we all heard the gunfire right outside the door and all turned to look at the door to watch him come in. >> is there anything else you want to say about what happened from then on in terms of in those moments? >> we are also remembering the victims of this horrific tragedy throughout the morning.

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. a lot of the information in the san bernardino rampage was focused on this conda, it was the home of syed farook and tashmeen malik. they left it cluttered from the bobby toys there. we saw signs of faith on the walls and went into massacre 14 innocent people. i was there when the landlord allowed reporters inside. watch. as the door was pride opened, a rush of camera crews were allowed inside the townhouse. the couple's landlord invites the media to look inside the home with no objection from the fbi. >> we executed a search warrant on that apartment. last night we turned that over, back to the residents. once the residents have the apartment, we're not in it

anymore, we don't control it. >> last night ability 8:00, 9's. this is unreal. >> reporter: around the apartment, signs of life, familiar to family everywhere. clutter in the kitchen, toys belonging to the couple's six month daughter scattered on the floor. it's here in the couple's bedroom closet, you find a sign of the intense investigation that took place. cnn discovered during a tour of the home. >> here you see they smashed up into the ceiling to take alook what was up there. it appears based on the debris on the ground, that there was an effort to get up there and make sure that they checked every crevice of this back bedram. >> personal identification and other documents were left scattered on the bed, edz of the couple's devout faith are seen throughout the apartment. a prayer rug on the wall. various books on the subject of

islam, prayer beads left on the edge of the bed. a prayer book left with the grandmother on the day of the shooting. we have with us cnn legal analyst joey jackson to talk about this. joey, first, good to have you this morning. we know that the raid was late wednesday and then on thursday evening, the owner says that he got a call from law enforcement saying they've released this condo back to him. about 24 to maybe 30 hours. do you think it was released too soon? >> i really don't, victor and good morning to you. i know it's a lot earlier where are you in california. the purpose of any search done by the fbi, okay, is to search for information, is to identify that information that they're looking for. they then catalogue it and evaluate it. if the fbi went in. you heard the indication was they were satisfied that they retrieved what was meaning. appropriate and necessary, they've done that. the other thing is in terms of

searching and catalogueing, victor the media being in there, what other identification of evidence do you need in terms of preservation of it? so the fact that there were cameras and everything else in there, you know, i would argue, could even enhance the investigation and ensure that the information they are looking for is preserved. remember, this is not a whodunnit scene. you are not trampleing on dna and everyday necessary. this is information the fbi is using to piece together the motivation for how and why this would have occurred. >> it may not be a whodunnit investigation. it could turn into a who helped them investigation. we had law enforcement analysts on, who were on, they had a reaction to seeing all of us in there. they called it a one of the largest screw-ups they've seen by letting reporters in. because we don't know yet if there were others who helped

them build those bombs, who taught them how to do that. and because they didn't see any dusting for fingerprints on the walls, maybe that has been lost? >> i mean, i would take a contrary view. look, we can all agree to disagree in terms of what happened. as far as i understand the bombs were made in the graphic. there was no access given to that particular area. in addition to that, the media is not going to be relying on the apartment, itself, they will be relying on digital foot prints that are out there. they are interviewing people in pakistan and saudi arabia. so, you know, the purpose in terms of the aartillery was to preserve evidence. the fbi was in there. they are satisfied they got. people go in and out of an apartment every single day. the other thing they are doing

to this investigation are going to be very helpful in terms of interviewing people who that were associated with, interviewing family members, interviewing friends doing other things, of course, evaluating the cell phones found by the area. computer records, facebook, instagram, anything like that. so the media has a first amendment right to let the public know what is going on. the media did that. you can criticize, you can argue. if the fbi released it, it was appropriate to the media to be there. >> and they certainly released it. we heard that from fbi spokesperson yesterday. joey jackson, thank you so much. >> thank you, victor. >> all right. i'm going to send it back to you in atlanta. okay,ly have much more from san bernardino throughout the morning, including more discussion of this ars nel found in the shooter's garage. we'll talk about that in just a moment. >> victor, thank you so much. prrnt it. as he said, we will have so much more for you in the shooting massacre in san bernardino as morning continues. also ahead, an leadsing how this

latest shooting is affecting politics and the gop. the bar on isis. what is behind the u.s. running low on bombs to drop on a terror group in syria. >> that report for you ahead as well. is that i close. or there's a fee to use them. .

. we have so much for you on the california rampage. we do have other headlines so you are in the know this morning. first of all, after almost a year-and-a-half of bombing runs on isis, more than 20,000 bomb

drops. the air force said they are running out of explosives. in a statement, an air force official says it can take as many as four years to stock up on the right amount of bombs. they say more funding is ned to get started. take a look at what's happening in india. heavy rains hitting that city. more than 120,000 people have been rescued since it started in late october. it has been going on. it's set to continue sadly. look at the streets the homes, even the local airport already under water. and former patriot's tight end eric hernandez in trouble. caught with a homemade knife in his prison cell. he has been moved to a separate part of the prison apparently after being involved in several fights. our coverage of the shooting massacre in san bernardino continues in a moment. victor blackwell live with the

latest developments as we look at these victims. >> that is on the hearts and the minds of people here in this country. you will hear from two survivors who hid under tables during this massacre. it is a cnn exclusive and we have that for you next. stay tuned. .

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>> welcome back to "new day." this morning isis radio says it's support es, that's what they're calling them, carried out the california attacks. we have new picture of the tashmeen malik. officials say she pledged allegiance on facebook. she and her husband killed 14 people on thursday. i'll show you now, a new video of the evacuations at a u.p. s. facility in san bernardino, after a driver found a package addressed to one of the two killers. a shooter placed this quiet community on high alert. we will talk about that in a moment t. massacre has shaken this community. 14 people killed in this attack. 21 others injured, we know.

two survivors told cnn's anderson cooper about the terrifying exclusive that day. take a listen. >> i was near the back table near the exterior door. >> because we were on break at the current time. >> i was at the table getting coffee and checking out the goodies that were sitting there and it was at that point in time, when we all heard the gunfire right outside the door and all turned to lock at the door to watch him come in. >> is there anything you want to say in terms of that? >> i think just instinct kicks in. adrenaline kicks in. you know, they're is up an amazing guests. i was under the table, we just

kind of held on to each other. >> so there were tables that you can try to hide on them? >> the tables with the food, ye yes. >> immediately, i saw before i went under my table, people going under their table. >> did you have a sense how long it went on for? >> it seemed like it was fore r forever. >> all i can think of why doesn't he stop? why does he keep shooting? >> did either of them say

anything? >> i snefr saw them, the shots started being fired. >> our thanks to anderson for that. >> the "new york times" is printing a front page editorial. their first in 95 years. here's a part of it. it is a moral outrage and national disgrace that civilians can legally purchase weapons designed to kill people with brutal speed and efficiency t. time's wants an end to the sale of fully legal, semi automatic weapons like these, the ones used in wednesday's attack. let's continue this conversation. of course, we learned more about the san bern attack t. headlines screamed about a cache of bullets and bombs, a stockpile of arms. the shooters had so many weapons there. the arsenal found. but for some gun owners in the

u.s., farook's stockpiles isn't out of the ordinary. we talk about it with cnn law enforcement analyst and former assistant of the u.s. marshals. let me ask you. 5200 rounds counted from those four sheets of items seized from the home. unusual? >> not at all. i have executed search warrants and other residences where we've come across 20, 30 weapons, 20 to 30,000 rounds of ammunition. so this batch of weapons and ammunition that they found is not unusual. i think this is the whole part of their scheme to stay under the radar. if they were buying bulk ammo and thousands of rounds a month, then probably they would have shown up on the radar somewhere. i think this is all a part of tear scheme to stay under the radar. >> we heard from president obama on down. if you see something, say

something. but there is no clarity on what people should be looking for. one of the scariest things about this, these people were not on the radar of the fbi or law enforcement. what are people looking for? >> well, this is the scary part of this. i think part of the plan was to stay under the radar and not be obvious as to what they were planning or trying to do. if that's the case, then we've entered a whole new avenue of what we are looking at on a terrorist attack. they weren't online. they weren't espouzing jihad. they weren't out there trying to convert people. they were literally under the radar. we heard witnesses talk about how they were a normal family. how they you know saw them playing with their baby. which is completely against what happened just a couple days ago. so if this is the plan they were staying under the radar. they did a pretty good job. >> they had other people that had nefarious goals as well. thanks so much for being with

us. as we discuss this element of safety and the weapons, we'll talk about what law enforcement is doing in response to some of the things that we're seeing across the country, effect on politics and gop as well. lots of topics. lots of avenues as we continue our coverage from san bernardino.

. >> new details emerging about the 14 people killed in this week's massacre in san bernardino. like victims, robert adams, who married his teenage sweet heart, he was going to take her to disneyland and the mother of three who moved from iran to escape religious persecution. cnn's jake tapper has their stories. >> there were cherished family members, best friends, parents, 14 people between the ages of 26 and 60 who spent their final day celebrating towing kissing their loved ones good-bye in the morning, never believing they wouldn't come home. >> the thought running through my mind was, you know, was it true? >> reporter: ryan reyes drove

his boyfriends to the regional center wednesday as he did most morning. kauffman ran a coffee shop there. where he trained zrabld employees. kauffman was taking a break on a bench outside, where he was killed. >> he meant the absolute world to me. yes, sorry. >> many of the victims were parents, leaving behind 18 children whose worlds are now changed forever. >> overall, shelves an amazing person. she was so nice. like she always supported me in everything i did. >> reporter: family and friends say she came to america from iran at age 18 to escape religious extremism. >> we just find it just sadly ironic and horrible that a woman that came to this country under these circumstance would find herself gunned down by religious extremists.

>> michael wetzel leaves behind six children and his wife renee. a friend speaking to the family told cnn how renee learned of his murder. >> the last group of survivors came. he wasn't in it. they told her if he wasn't an american he was gone. >> reporter: robert adams always wanted to be a dad. he and his wife welcomed a little girl just townshipt months ago on a fundraising page set up for his family a. friend quote he was 100% if daddy land. his family says he cherished every moment with his daughter. sierra clayborn and alaska were cherished daughters as well. a talented and beautiful young woman her family said. on facebook, her sister wrote, my heart is broken. i am completely devastated. the family of the youngest victim is, too. she was 26. she leaves behind a husband and

a 2-year-old son. this community and the families of all the victims will need tremendous strength to move forward. a trait many learned from their loved ones. >> i'm doing okay. what else can i do? i have to stay strong. >> jake tapper, cnn, washington. >> the rippleing impact of wednesday's attack. ahead, we will have more on the investigation here in san bernardino, california and now stretching around the world, also political reaction to the tragedy. next, we'll look at gun violence and the safety element of this story in the wake of the san bernardino massacre. who wants to try? before earning enough cash back from bank of america to stir up the holidays,

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>> yeah, i'm going to be more careful. try to be careful about seeing people, strange people. because it's something that happens really frequently now. >> it's not going to change the way i live my life day-to-day. just looking around a little bit more. i have no desire to buy any kind of firearm. but i do think that it should be more difficult for people to obtain assault weapons. >> as far as changing my holiday plans? there is no reason. >> i might not want to go to a big political rally. >> obviously, that is some of the people we talked to. and the conversations they're having all over the country how safe they feel after the latest mass shooting.

candidates have something to say, too. >>. >> i'm going to be more careful. try to be careful about seeing people. >> all right. >> that what we do have sound ofrom some of the candidates. i want to bring errol lewis into the conversation. errol. thank you so much for being with us. victor was talking about this "new york times" op ed on the front page today. and i want to read another excerpt from it. it says the attention and anger of americans should also be directed at the elected leaders whose job is to keep us safe. who pays a higher premium on the money and political power dedicated to reprofiting from the unfettered spread of ever more powerful firearms. taking a hit at the leadership in our country. whether that be from obama's

administration, itself, to folks in congress. and i'm wondering, how does that affect the establish. candidates, including hillary clinton who are linked with the president? >> sure, it mean, along other things, that people have to decide whether or not a front page editorial in the "new york times" means anything to them. the reality is, we know that there are conservative candidates out there. who will take an attack or condemnation from the "new york times" and turn it into a fundraising appeal. that they could not care less about what the "new york times" has to say about them. i think the underline political reality is that there is a very strong and almost overwhelming sentiment in the country for some kind of sensible gun control him i'm talking measures like the one that failed in congress, which is to deny guns to people on the terrorist watch list. you'd think it was low hanging fruit. completely reasonable.

it did not. so if the "new york times" and other proponents of gun control want to go in the direction of talking about a dysfunctional congress. i think that starts to resonate more with people. not so much the particulars of the second amendment debate. because that has been run round and round and round want but it's something as simple as. i mean, christ 76 one of my favorites is, you can get a gun license. you can own a gun if you are legally mind in some jurisdictions. if we can't close those kind of loopholes, i think the general public says, wait a minute, why are we paying you guy, if you can't fix something for no guns on the politicalwash watch list. >> broadening the conversation here, as you talk about who the people are that we elect. i want to play some sound here from donald trump. because the latest cnn/orc poll shows him at 36% now. he has gained almost 10%age

points since october and here's just some of what he has said that has caught a lot of attention. >> i watched when the world trade center came tumbling down and i watched in jersey city, new jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. >> nauk [ inaudible ] >> there should be a lot of systems, beyond the database. we should have a lot of systems. today you can do it. right now, we have to have a border. we have to be strength. we have to have a wall. we cannot let what's happening to this country happen. i would certainly implement that. >> do you go to mosques? >> different places. you sign them up at different. it's all about management. >> they're using a shield. we're fighting a very politically correct war. with the terrorists. you have to take out their families. when you get these terrorists,

you have to take out tear families. they care about their lives, don't kid yourself. they say they don't care. you have to take out their families. >> so, errol. here's the thing, taking out tear families, that violates the geneva convention testimony thought of a database of muslim americans is illegal. how is his rhetoric resonating with so many people when a lot of what he says isn't plausible to put into some liam form? >> well, kristi, don't forget the first of those three, to complete the hat trick of thousands and thousands of muslims cheering on /11, which did not happen. have you donald trump campaigning on a lot of different things. some of which are illegal. one of which you point out is a war crime. yet people seem to support them early. that's what they're telling the pollsters. i wouldn't get too worried about that at this stage. we are closing in on iowa. the reality, some of those numbers you cited are national polls. we don't have national primaries.

there is a lot of national sentiment out there. as we have seen in election after election. all of that changes once people actually go to the poll. i think if you were to sort of throw in some questions into the poll, hey, do you support, you know, killing innocent non-combatants, you think they're the family members of bad guy, i don't think most people support that. so donald trump is doing what he does. he's getting a lot of attention. we are talking about him right now. he is polling very well. i think there is a long way to go before we actually start seeing any of this implemented. >> again, there are the latest numbers there, trump at 36%, far ahead of second in line there. cruz at 16%. hillary clinton, another poll recently showing she is in a statistical dead heat. hillary clinton against almost all of the republican candidates on the ticket or fighting for the ticket right now. errol lewis. we appreciate it so much. thank you. >> all right. thank you, kristi.

>> absolutely. our coverage of the shooting massacre in san bernardino continues. a ups facility was evacuated a. delivery man, noticed the package sent to wednesday's deadly shooting. we will go back live to the latest developments in that side of the story. .

breaking overnight, a ups facility evacuated if san bernardino, california. a delivery man discovered the package addressed to one of the shooters who killed 14 people earlier this week t. bomb squad urgently called to the scene. also breaking overnight, isis' radio station describes the two shooters as their supporters. this adds to the complexity of the investigation in anyway? >> it is just about 7:00 on a saturday morning. as us as, we have so grateful. we want to remind you how grateful we are. i'm kristi paul in atlanta. >> i'm victor blackwell in san

bernardino, good morning to you. new this morning, isis is saying the california killers were their supporters. and they're praying, quote, for god to accept them as martyrs. we get a new picture of one of the attackers, tashmeen malik who posted as you know a pledge of allegiance to isis on facebook. while she went on a killing spree with her husband. authorities say the killers tried to destroy all digital material that could be used as evidence and planned this shooting very carefully. making pipe bombs and storing more than 5,000 rounds of ammunition in their condo. plus, we want to talk about this ups facility after a driver found a package addressed to one of the people. the community is onge after 14 people were killed in that attack. 21 people injured. cnn, of course, covering this from every angle. we are starting with pablo

sandeval. he is in front of the condo where the two lived. let's dot-com about this investigation and to what level it's developed this morning? >> well, i can tell you, victor. this latest development in this investigation is really going to give added reason for people. not just in this commune to the keep a profile on this story. from across the country with the this possible isis link. if authorities are able to confirm that possible link, that would be a significant development. it would make wednesday's attack here in san bernardino the deadliest on american soil really linked to a terrorist group overseas since /11. then you hear from the family, syed farook speaking through their attorney. they want solid undenial proof that they were radicalized. san bernardino on edge overnight police evacuated a ups facility and called in the bomb squad to investigate a package addressed to the home of syed farook.

it turned out to be safe, posing no threat. this himselfco as the fbi announces it's investigated as an act of terrorism. >> we are spending a tremendous amount of time over the last 48 hours trying to understand the motives of these kirls and every detame of their lives. >> another recent revelation about tashmeen malik, the female shooter in the wednesday massacre that left 14 dead and 21 wound, she posed a pledge of allegiance to the isis leader abu ag baghdadi while the shooting was happening. a mass shooting may have been inspired by isis, but the terror group apparently did not district or order the attack. it may be a case of self radicalization. the possibility that's left family members baffled. >> i had called him that night before, if i had any inclination, maybe i could have stopped it.

>> reporter: meanwhile, police are downplaying the possibly farook appeared angry when he suddenly left the holiday luncheon, only to return heavily armed with his wife. >> we had initial information from a witness or some witnesses that left the party and provided information that it appears he left upset or under some form of duress. there is indication from other people that he was there. there was nothing out of the ordinary and suddenly he was gone. >> back out live to the doorstep of farook's home. ki tell you there is still a heart break mixed with healing mixed in this community. people are still talking about wednesday's shooting this morning. obviously, you see behind me, victor that reminder. >> that particle board has been put up since you had an opportunity to see inside. what's interesting from our van tage point, you can see through the 2nd floor window, the ceiling fans rotating, a

security screen, an ominous scene as they wake up here in san bernardino. >> all right. in redlands, california, thank you so much. all right, let's talk about the investigation now. we have with us our cnn law enforcement analyst and cnn military analyst, retired general rick francona. i want to start with you from isis, you point out a distinction between supporters and fighters. >> yeah, they're making a difference. they've labeled the people that participated in the paris attacks as actual members of the organization and called them fighters. what they're calling these two are supporters, which is kind of a lesser level. which means they're supporting the organization but not actually directed by, which leads us to the conclusion, probably inspirational, not so much being directed. >> from isis' perspective, this was a success. they want to get some of that glob on to that. why create the zoons? >> well, they want to take credit for it.

i think they realize saying this might be directed as a leap too far. that will be proven as not true. they want to take advantage as they can. okay, they have been showing themselves to be adept at social messaging. so they know what they can get away with. >> let's talk about this ups facility. we talked about the driver who had the presence of moo ind to return to the facility after seeing the address, but this package being en route after the attack, does that give you any or lead to you any conclusion that maybe this was not the event and at the last minute made the decision? >> it could be a couple things. number one, great for the driver to pick this out. you see a package addressed to an individual that committed this horrendous act. the first thing that comes to my mind are there other explosives in it? you know. what was in the package? i think that's going to be key to figure out, you know, it could have been christmas gifts for all we know.

something for the baby. but you know the key to this is going to be, okay, what was in the package? where was it ordered from? who sent it? when was it actually supposed to be deliveredch we're in the holiday season now. packages are being backed up a bit. great for the driver, you know, they should have actually got out of the vehicle and called 9/11 at that point. >> we know it was rendered safe. i want to know as we are learning more about tashmeen malik. from your perspective, is this a case of a black widow. she radicalized her husband or you believe they were radicalized together? >> we're asking you. that's what we have to find out. >> that will be fairly easy to find out. once they find out who they talked to, who their contacts were. it's important they get that cell phone and that computer hard drive. from that, they can build a network of tear contacts. then they'll be finding out, how did they get radicalized? one of the important thing is like google searches and who,

what kind of websites were they on? you know, in the past, it generally has been the male that has been radicalized and brings the fe pail along. when you look at her behavior, you have to wonder how deeply she was in this. >> and her backgrounds, where she came from, where she has been. pack taken born, in saudi arabia. it seems logically that she would be the one. >> and to travel here with that motive when she came over if 2014. >> exactly. >> we will continue the conversation throughout the morning. thank you both. more about syed rizwan described as a shy, quiet man, devout in his faith. then something changed. two men who attended the same mosque spoke to cnn's don lemon last night about that shooting. >> we are totally shocked. we don't understand it. we can't put the numbers together. if we have to guess, we think

something happened in the last maybe months two months maximum he stopped coming to the mosque four months ago. we aren't surprised. he doesn't live in san bernardino. he lives in resland. he only came to here he was expecting rest. so when he had a hundredp break, he would come to pray with us. he would come two-to-three times a week. now, what happened, i don't know, we are more inclined to believe he had some argument or a fight with his work than to think that this has anything to do with religion. i go to the mosque, the regular, is what you call. i can tell you that all of us are extremely kind. we care about everybody, regardless of tear religion him we actually learn the opposite of hatred. our religion says to love

others, respect others. if you see someone in harm's way, we have to, it's a part of our belief is to go and help them ap get them out of harm's way. so there is no radical organization in any of my muslim brotherhood who pray at the same mosque. i know all of them. none of them think like that. >> of course, if we were to know he was like this. we'd be the first to report it to the authorities about him. >> absolutely. >> of course, this is now categoryized as a terrorist organization. the students have reignited the gun control debate as well. we will talk about the new push to stop weapons if they they are on the no fly list. also, a bake question. is america safe? president obama says we are, but with terrorists striking on u.s.

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. >> new this morning, the "new york times" playing history, putting an op ed on the front page of their paper. it focuses on gun violence. it is a moral outrage that civilians can legally purchase weapons designed specifically to kill people with brutal speed and deficiency. america's elected leaders offer prayers and camlously and without fear of consequence reject the most bake restrictions on weapons of mass killing. this comes on the heels of lawmakers coming for new gun

control measures. among them, baring people on the no fly list from purchasing a gun. cnn's renee marsh has more for us. renee. >> reporter: kristi, we're taking a closer look how many people on terror watch lists have been cleared to buy guns and whether laws to stop it from happening would have prevented the mass shooting in san bernardino, california. enough. enough. enough. >> a predictable refrain. the gun reignited a bloody attack in san bernardino, california. now increased urgency to stop suspected terrorists from buying weapons. >> the bill is the definition of a no-brainer. if someone is too dangerous to board an architect, they're too dangerous to buy a gun. >> reporter: the proposed fix the no fly list that stops suspected terrorists from boarding planes to also be used to ban weapons.

since 2004, there have been more than 2,200 checks for people on terror watchlists. about fun% of the transactions were approved. under current federal law, a person cannot be prohibited from possessing firearms or explosives, simply because the individual appears on the terror watch list. however, a felony conviction or illegal immigration status can disqualify someone. hours after the massacre, they pushed for change in the country's gun laws. >> we have a no fly list, people can't get on planes but those same people could go into a store right now in the united states and buy a firearm. >> but such a law would not have prevented the mass shooting in san bernardino. neither killer was on the terror watch list. they didn't even have criminal records and syed farook legally purchased at least two of the guns used in the massacre.

>> not one of these mass public shootings the president so-to-speak about during his administration would have been stopped by anyway by the laws he is pushing. >> reporter: critics say individuals wrongfully placed on the terror list would be stripped of their coninstitutional right to own a gun. the fbi are made aware when someone is on the terror watch list and has been cleared to buy guns or explosives. now, the fbi learns about that plan to use those weapons in an attack. at that point they do have the power to block the seam. they've done it before. we should point out, legislation has been proposed in both the house and the senate to prevent people on the terror watch list from purchasing guns. but it's gone nowhere in congress. kristi. >> renee, thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> you are watching our live coverage from san bernardino, california, continuing.

we will have a conversation about the changes police officers and law enforcement around the country are having to make in order to be able to deem with the growing threat of terror. some of the changes you will see. others, not is much. stay close.

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. i a have been on theest, illinois we passed a conceal and carry. i have been thinking do you want to be in a situation where you don't have protection? i know that's not how i was raised, but i'm thinking like it might be time. seriously. >> i'm not scared. i believe in jesus. i believe in god. i beaver he will take care of us. i believe the government and our prayers has everything in control. >> there is control everywhere. people have to be aware of general surroundings. >> no, i haven't changed my travel habits, any of my day-to-day. >> it was disheartening. at this point it's like what, i feel like i can't do anything as one person there's all this gun violence. >> it's shocking. you get people out there. you still got to live your life every day.

>> some of those words are resonating with you. we know so many of you are having these conversations about safety, about gun control. about isis as you sit in your living rooms around around the kitchen table. you all fear for yourselves and your family and wondering, hoy are you going to stay safe? especially when we hear some of the things we are hearing, nachlg, we now know, for instance, one of the shooters pledged allegiance. in his weekly radio address president obama says he has been preparing for something like this. >> it is entirely possible these two attackers were radicalized to commit this act of terror. if so it would underscore a threat we have been focused on for years the danger of people succumbing to idealist extremist ideologys. >> here's the thing. this attack in san bernardino came on the very day they told pbs, isis will fought pose an existential threat to the u.s.

cnn will talk more about what else the president said and how it's being received, chris. >> hey, good morning, kristi. so the news of the attacks may have been inspired by isis, only to fuel republican criticism that president obama's strategy to defeat the terrorist group has failed, marco rubio said despite obama's arguments to the contrary, isis is not under control. >> because the other individual, the husband, was a u.s. citizen. born in the united states, lived here his entire life, had ever, ever, done anything radical or strange that caused anyone to be suspicious of him. never would have shown up on any database. never would have shown up on any background screening. never. and then within a matter of months, not just becomes radicalized but goes from being an average every day person into a killer on behalf of this cause that i've just described to you. we have never faced the threat

like this before. >> as you pointed out, obama worried publicly for years by abone wolf it was a self radicalized. and because law enforcement will tell you, it's incredibly tracking terrorists work income isolation. on the day of the attack, but before the possible isis link was discovered, obama again downplayed the threat isis pose poses. >> isil will never pose an existential threat to us. they are a dangerous organization like al qaeda was but we have hardened our defenses. our homeland has never been more protected by more effective intelligence and law enforcement professionals at every level than they are now. >> but even before the massacre in california, americans express doubts about obama's strategy a.

survey out last month found more than half of those polled disapproved of how the president had handled the issue. that's not a good sign for the president, particularly as his administration comes to grip with what could be the biggest attack in america since 9/11? >> good point thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> thank you. so what happened in california, a lot of people think that can happen anywhere. see how federal and local law enforcement officials around the country are preparing to take on and take out would be terrorists. also, he's part doctor, part tactical officer. dr. sanjay gupta introduces us to the doctor whose arms both save lives and probability them.

welcome back to "new day." isis is now speaking out about the attack, calling shooters supporters. the shooting spree has made people of san bernardino jittery, on edge. ups facility was evacuated after a discovery of a package addressed to the killer's condo. of course, we are learning more about the two killers tashmeen malik pledge of allegiance to isis leader on faader on facebo. also a co-worker said she was responsible for rad camizing her husband syed farook. could the massacres that happened in california happen in another state in the u.s.? federal and local law enforcement officials across the country training for this

nightmare scenario cnn has a look at how atlanta is preparing for this. >> good morning. victor, if the shooting in san bernardino taught us is that a shooting attack can happen anywhere at any time. we caught up with the fbi and others to see how they are preparing and spreading awareness. it is terrifyingly realistic. but this is only a drill. >> the simulation a part of active shooter training at a georgia high school. >> get on the ground! >> i think the thing that keeps us awake at night if we don't know. >> at the atlanta field office, they says a shooting can happen anywhere at any time and without warning. >> quite honestly, i go to the mall. i have conversations about then, about what do you do if you start to hear gunfire? these are tough conversations. you need to have them with your kids. >> in 2015 alone there have been more than 350 mass shootings according to data from shooting

tracker.com. it categorizes mass shootings in any incident where four people are injured or killed, including the shooter. preparing for a shooter inside a school, considered a soft target. >> the reality is many thing in our society are a soft target. so we can't stop living. r. he works at emory university in atlanta. >> run and get away from the scenario, if you can. if you can't hide and barricade yourself in a place where it's substantial. if you can't hide to protect yourself and others fight with aggression. >> it was two weeks ago security was enhanced outside of philips arena in atlanta. after an alleged isis threat against a wrestling event. those we spoke to outside wwe's survivor series decided to show up anyway. >> dhings are going to happen no matter what. you can't live your life in fear. >> what i'm going to say is run, run as fast as you can.

>> reporter: law enforcement officials say everyone should consider a plan. a 2014 study by the fbi found most active shootings and if five minutes or lechlts after paris, the french government handed out these posters, printed on them, instructions on how to escape or hide during a terrorist attack. >> our ability to know what's going on out in the community every day is diminishing. we're relying on the public even more every day. >> for those that survived the shooting in san bernardino, there is little that can be said or done to stop the fear. >> we're not eager to go back to work. you know, to know that some of our friends are gone, to know that massacre happened in the next building. it's not, you don't feel safe. >> a lot of people don't feel safe unfortunately in speaking to the fbi, there is no way you can be 100% prepared for in and when a terrorist attack does

happen. victor, they say tear biggest fear is self radicalization. in conversations before, between terrorists like those associated with al qaeda, the fbi says it was more easy to intercept those communications. now that propaganda is out there. isis does not want the main street communication. they say it's harder to track down those self radicalizing out there right now. victor. >> all right. we will talk about that right now. thank you so much. also with the shooters reportedly in the tactical gear using assault rifles, police had to move in with heavy machinery to respond to the san bernardino rampage. yet, that's exactly the kind of equipment that was criticized in response to protests last year, especially as you see here in ferguson, missouri. the former police chief of st. louis county says that gear is crucial. >> there's a reason why we asked for the equipment. all the equipment was purchased in the early 2,000s after september 11th is becoming

obsolete. it needs to be replaced. now the money is not there to replace that. >> also, let's talk about the self radicalization element and the difficulty of identifying those people and this equipment. we have with us montgomery county maryland police chief and cheryl dorsey, retired l.a. county police sergeant. sorry for that. let's talk first with you, cheryl, about the equipment. that was criticized in ferguson. now, let's point out the distinction, that was used in protest of civilians. that was used inside the ric. what is your view on the need for those and i guess training on when to use hose? >> obviously, the equipment that was used this week was necessary and so as a police officer, we always want to have the position of advantage. it's a little different when you

are going against protesters versus potential terrorists. so it was appropriate and necessary. also, it's important the officers have an opportunity to train with that equipment. if it is feed, when and if it is feed, then are you prepared to move an act in a way that's familiar. we saw that, the success the officers had in san bernardino when they were able to quickly apprehend the suspects. >> there was that executive order from president obama to end the transfer of certain types of equipment from the pentagon to local law enfosterment do you think that was a mistake. >> i'm not sure i can. if most large agencies have those kind of vehicles, i think as long as we are using them appropriately. really, will is two reasons to use those vehicles. it's to get officers from point a to point b when it's not safe

to be in that area. and there is also they need to be used to recover injured individuals. we've, in fact the primary use for these vehicles is to recover injured and folks that have, they're in a location where it's fought safe to be. you know, we all i think cringed when we saw the photo of the officer in that armored vehicle if ferguson, pointing a rifle at protesters. i would say fine% of police agencies that had these vehicles are not certainly did not use them in during lawful protests. we use those vehicles. we have three of them in our police department. we use them to get our swat officers into a location where there is an active shooter. where there is a threat of an

explosive device where we have injured folks where it's not safe for fire rescue to go in and get them. >> let me discuss with both of you. we are hearing statements from the fbi, having been with local police. you in montgomery county, are you directly with the people every day. they may not see fbi agents every day. we are hearing from the president on down, see something, say something. if the fbi didn't see anything that elevated these two to an investigation of any type, what should people who are not trained be looking for? >> you know we heard one neighbor who saw something unsettling about the two shooters. she opted not to zee say anything, she thought she would be racially profiling. i think if you see anything, no matter how insignificant. report it. allow the authorities to different that information they

deserve. >> that is a real fear. you don't want to seem racially profiling. i saw she saw something that made her feel uneasy. what's the line? >> we are currently working with the school system. we're working with the faith community. we're working with the mental health community to educate them about what the red flags are. of course, none involve an individual's race, ethnicity. religion. we're looking at and trying to teach them to look at behaviors. when you see someone who begins talking about some radicalized behavior. when you see someone who is obsessed with guns. when you see someone displaying -- >> these two didn't talk about

that at all. i hate to jump in. these two didn't talk about anything. >> those are the ones that are the most difficult to detect. those are the ones i think that we're always going to have are real difficulty. right now, what worries me the most is the fact that there is a certainly a feel by many members of the public and by legislators that are making it more difficult to monitor these activities. we're trying to weigh an individual's privacy with the responsibility to detect the activities these folks are engaged in. i'm not sure we found the right balance yet. in fact, the pendulum has swung to the point where there are activities and things that folks can do now out of the reach of law enforcement. it was never like that before.

but because of things that come to the public iattention, because of edward snowden, now the pendulum has swung to the point where privacy advocates have been able to secure means for folks to hide a lot of what their activities are on the internet, what they're doing, you know, over their phone and you know it's difficult notice now again, i understand the need for the right balance and privacy for individuals we got to find that balance. it's making it more difficult for law enforcement. >> for farook and malik, they didn't have to communicate with anybody else. we only saw the fbi making public now that posting while the shooting was happening.

>> we understand the public is not held to that same standards. >> all right. thank you both. >> all right. one of the first responders in the mass shooting carries bandages and assault rifle. up next, meet the so-called swat doc who is trained to protect himself while saving lives.

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their lives. the this as the fbi calls this an act of terror. and the u.s. is grappling with what may be the worst terrorist attack on american soil since 9/11. think about that. a few bride of first responder, though, is appearing. a hybrid of soldier and doctor and chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta has this story. >> reporter: before any member arrived on the bloody scene of the massacre, the doctor was there minutes after the shooting began. >> from airway to quickest stapleing of the ruin in the field to israeli banldage, which is a compression bajtdage. >> reporter: he's a new kind of first responder, a hybrid, a soldier, a doctor and a member of the s.w.a.t. seem, ready to defend as well as save lives. >> a good guy should be able to defend himself and also help everybody else.

>> reporter: in order to do that, not only diz he need to carry his medical equipment, but he has to carry a gun as well. a gun much like the one used by the shooters. >> well, you know, i don't want to get hurt. if somebody really have an intention like that, yesterday, where he was indisskrim nantly, i'm the first one that gets there, the active shooter responds, i want to be able to defend myself an those civilians. >> reporter: that's him on the right. today, just one day after the shooting, we followed the doctor to this training facility. >> ready? >> ready, sir. >> this is another part of being a brand-new sort of doctor, going through training like this, with other members of the s.w.a.t. team to try to make sure he can defend himself in sixes where he is taking care of other patients. >> we are now going to the assault rifle injury-type

pattern, which rips and shreds apart organs in your body, tissues, vessels. even our tactics are changing right now for law enforcement. wooer going sideways, now we go to the front to expose less organ injuries better than -- >> so instead of going. >> sideways and a bullet comes through, it goes through both lung and heart and to the other side. wradz we go from the flight. you have to wit one or the another, you will be functional. >> that's fascinating. >> you always see people approaching in the lower profile. >> he grew up in iran and served in the military there. so guns an combat aren't new to him. he never thought he'd have to use those skills in america. >> reporter: did you ever think your experiences in the middle east will be useful here? >> i never in a million years. now that i'm here, you know, this is one of my duties. it's a privilege to work here. it's a privilege to be a part of

this team to serve the community out there. it's the least i could do. >> reporter: dr. sanjay gupta, cnn, san bernardino county, california. >> wow, thanks to sanjay for that. we will have much more coming up, live from san bernardino if just a moment. plus, the u.s. running out of bombs to drop on isis a. report often what's behind this dwindling supply of bombs in just a moment. . .

53 minutes past the hour. take a look at this picture. this is the newest image of san bernardino shooter tashfeen malik. and her husband syed rizwan farook killed 15 people. officials say she pledged her allegiance to isis via facebook. and other headlines that we want to apprise you of this morning, after almost a year and a half of bombing isis targets, more than 20,000 bombs dropped.

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new this morning -- new details in the san bernardino massacre. the official radio station of isis now saying the california attack was carried out by its supporters. how does this affect the investigation, if at all? and new overnight, a u.p.s. facility evacuated in san bernardino. a delivery man discovers a package addressed to one of the

shooters who killed 14 this week. and we'll talk about that. also, new images this morning of one of the shooters. tashfeen malik. cnn is learning new information about her possible ties to isis. >> we are always so grateful to have your company. thanks for sharing yourself with us here on this saturday morning. christi paul in atlanta. >> i'm victor blackwell in san bernardino. thanks for joining us. we're starting with several new developments. first, isis radio is calling the radio radio shooters supports of their group and pray that god accepts them as martyrs. this is happening as we're seeing new pictures of the shooter tashfeen malik. she posted a pledge of allegiance on facebook. and a co-worker is saying that she radicalized her husband,

syed rizwan farook. and how the community on edge. a u.p.s. facility was evacuated after a driver discovered a package to the killer's condo. they say it contained clothing. cnn is covering this story from every ainge. first, isis saying that the california killers were supporters and prayer. and let's talk about the investigation with paolo sandoval. let's see if this plays into the larger investigation led by the fbi. but the declaration yesterday that this is now a terror investigation. where are we so far with this? >> with that announcement, too, victor, was that it basically established and made it official that it would be a terrorism investigation. more likely to see more counterterrorism involved in the investigation. more resources as well. we heard from the l.a. office of the fbi yesterday say, if anything, this is going to

strengthen that message for the general public to remain extra vigilant. and this is because they still cannot say with complete certainty that it was only syed farook and his wife tashfeen malik who were involved in planning an attack. they still don't know if there was somebody else helping, especially with the level of planning. and also with everything that was removed from the townhome here. as a result, investigators are going to take a harder look to see if there are, perhaps, any active cells with possible links to isis operated within the united states. as they recognize before, they had hundreds of investigations into possible sympathizers. but at this point, they still have not found any credible threat posed against the homeland. >> all right. let's talk about this evacuation at the u.p.s. facility. after the discovery of that packaged addressed to syed rizwan farook, what do you know?

>> reporter: as you mentioned, a little while ago, it is really keeping people on edge here, several days after the shooting, people are still talking about. and what happened last night, we know that this u.p.s. driver was headed out to make his deliveries when he noticed on one of the packages, 53 north center street which is actually the address that you see behind me. as a result, this driver took that action. turned around and got the morning facility, authorities were called to the san bernardino police chief saying as a precaution, they isolated that box. bomb squad was called in and found out it was simply clothing that had been ordered. clearly, this may have been a false alarm but what this does, it does show how this community remains vigilant. whether you live here or just work here, people are on alert. a reminder of what happened here days ago. >> all right.

paolo sandoval in redlands. let's talk about many elements. starting with this isis radio message from al bayan, the name of the station. we've got a cnn law enforcement analyst roderick and we're going to start with you, calling on supporters saying they were accepted, quote, as martyrs. one of the anomalies here, they did not stay. killed as many people as possible and die as martyrs. do you know why? >> well, this differs from what we normally would see in an isis-style attack. they would normally go in and kill as many people and normally die there. we did not see that this time. which makes us question, what were the motives. were they going to leave and come back with the first responders. the fact that they didn't leave

town, you could be on an interstate in two or three minutes and be out of here which really is puzzling. the fact that they were called supporters, not fighters. so they're not really what we call core isis. >> our tom foreman mapped it out and they could have been in mexico in two hours or so. >> absolutely. >> art. to you, the two smashed cell phones behind the trash bin. other electronics recovered from the home, those could offer a wealth of information. how soon can authorities get to that information? >> i mean, i think, obviously, some of those were damaged. we've heard that they tried to destroy them. it should take the fbi not that long to figure out if they're able to even get information off. if they're able to get it off, it might take a little while with the software packages that they have to extract the information. but the fact that they had all these different cell phones, that's a criminal technique that's used, where they buy

these phones at target or best buy that already has the minutes on it. they're burner phones is what they call them. at a way to not track communicative devices. >> you both believe this is a case of self-radicalization. if indeed this is a case of self-radicalization, what are they hiding? the lessons that they learned, clearly, doing this themselves, there's no context, is there? >> given the training, the planning, there had to be some training involved in this. was it online? i think the cell phones and cameras and other people are involved. and i think the fbi would be able to find that from the records of phones, not just the phones itself. >> so is this then still a case of self-radicalization, if they have those contacts and they

learned this from someone else? >> well, they have to go somewhere to get the information. the person just doesn't know how to tactically man user, or how to get firearms or get burner phones. they had to go some place to get this information, whether they did it online, i think there's actual people they talked to. i think we're going to find that out. >> and that leads to the next question of tashfeen malik. we're learning more about it, she posted that message, pledging allegiance to al baghdadi. did they come to the u.s. with this motive? or was she radicalized once she reached the u.s.? >> that's what we're going to have to find out. you recall one of the fbi profilers saying her actions are totally alien to what we've seen with women perpetrators in the

past. we'll see if was she a starter or a follower. >> colonel, art roderick, thank you both. as we continue that conversation this morning, we're not forgetting at 14 people killed in wednesday's massacre. and as the 21 injured. many of them in the hospital. we're learning a lot about them. robert adams was a devoted husband and father. he was looking forward to takes his 21-month-old daughter to disneyland. his wife sommer spoke exclusively to anderson cooper, remembering her late husband. >> we met at church, i was 15 years old. >> what as it about him? >> he was funny. i think anybody that met robert would say he had an excellent

sense of humor. he did pranks. and was funny. >> did he do pranks on you? >> not on me. but he loved to have a good time. he would say he loved when people laughed. that's what initially led me to him. he was affectionate, he was loving. devoted. there was not a day that went by that i didn't know that that man didn't love me more than anything on earth. >> that's an incredible gift. >> it is. it is. being one of the ones as we ventured into our late 30s. we started to change our minds. i was a little scared. he said, don't worry, you're not going to be alone, i'm going to do this with you. you'll have a lot of hope. i'm alone now, but i'm grateful that i do have a daughter and have a piece of him that will always be in my life.

>> a gofundme page has been set up to help the family. you see it's raised already $45,000. well next, i'll take you inside the condo shared by these shooters. a bizarre scene. first hand, i'll show you what we found inside that home. plus, the u.s., possibly, running out of bombs to drop on isis. got a report on what's behind the shortage. but first, we'd like to pause for a moment to continue to remember the victims of the tragedy here in san bernardino.

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welcome back. i'm victor blackwell live in san bernardino, california this morning. we've got the latest from ice ig isis now, this radio station al bayan. calling them supporters. brian todd examines the increasing number of isis sympathizers in the u.s. and the role women play in their ranks. >> reporter: 27-year-old female attacker was born in pakistan and later traveled to saudi arabia at least twice, according to a saudi official. she met syed rizwan farook there and travelled to the united states on a fiancee visa. she was a typical housewife but traditional, often wearing a burqa. >> she did maintain certain

traditions as far as what i understand, in terms of fasting and daily prayer. >> reporter: farook expressed his desire for a girl who wears a hijab and said he enjoyed target practice in the backyard. and ask the directly if it was malik who influenced farook. >> i don't know whether she influenced him. >> it's possible that she influenced him. when you look at the islamic state, we tend to read her through the men around her, whether the boyfriend or husband or cousin. it's a reason for her for islamic state to any other political movement. >> reporter: the couple wouldn't be the first bony and clyde inspired by terrorists. the widow of paris supermarket she's expected to be with isis

in syria as is sally jones. she's the widow believed to have inspired the only isis-in12ig gaited attack so far on american soil. and the shootup of a cartoon contest in texas. in a sobering new report on isis sympathizers inside the u.s., lorenzo modino at george washington university said many of those women are adept. >> it means paradise in arabic. we dough see that women are more prolific than men. they tend to write more. they tend to post a lot of things, they tend to have a lot of accounts. >> those accounts are used for recruitment of women. she was fought on any saudi watch list or on suspicion by the saudis of any extremist

activities. brian todd, cnn, washington. >> brian, thank you so much. let's talk more about this. here with me, brian levin, a professor at the california state university. we also have michael weiss, a cnn contributor and co-auth of "isis, inside the terror." you believe that malik radicalized her husband. why? >> you see abu lassen from the paris attacks. loners, duos, autonomous cells, directed cells. this at this point looks like a duo. and we saw the d.c. sniper, john l. mohammed was the dominant player. his cohort, impressionable.

timothy mcveigh and nichols, very similar. usually, the dominant person is more operational. what's unusual here is not so much that there's a woman involved. but that it appears, at least where the speculation is going, that she was the dominant catalyst with the radicalization. the mosque that he belonged to is a peaceful mosque. i know the leader. he didn't get it there. he got it from her. and there may be ties with extremists unconfirmed. >> there are reports, trying to get as much as we can about tashfeen malik and farook. we know that they met through this dating website. he's been described as a quiet, shy person. possibly, did she seek out a

submissive man to get her from pakistan here -- from saudi arabia here? >> look, the million dollar question, michael weiss will tell you similar things they some a bifurcated strategy. one is to get fighters trained, send them back. it's a lot harder to do that here in the united states. the words from the radio station last night tell us a lot. they didn't say warriors, fighters for us, supporters. so it looks like this is almost an independent franchise, suggesting to me that they may very well have been self-radicalized, as i testified before congress just over a month ago. the tools available on the internet from isis which is the most sfophisticated training in recent history can allow people to scope their hatred and get regionally operational online. again, they weren't that sophisticated that they could have killed many more.

they had a lot of armaments and explosives that they left unused. >> a recent report says 1 in 6 of new recruits depending on the geographic region is female. why are we seeing this shift? >> well, in a sense, it's not really a shift. there very female bombers and jihadis. look at chechnya. and the black widow naphenomeno. and the one recently hanged by the jordanian government. what's interesting here, isis as put forth as part of its propaganda, we're not a sexist examination despite what they tell you. isis turned that right on its head and said, well, look we have the el konsta brigade which

runs security patrols in raqqah and they're trying to say it's genderly equal. of course, that's anonymous. women can tell you women are treat nod better than chattel. look, we have to get out of our heads this idea that somehow women are going to be more pacific more more progressively minded when it comes to terrorism. no, they can be as deadly as men. you mentioned his wife, he went back to syria before his paris attacks and then gave an interview to the propaganda magazine saying, you know, it got to the point where i stopped showing him all of our wonderful videos about our life in the

caliphate because he told me it would make him very distracted. she's become his boswell in the afterlife. you this is not going to go away. >> michael, the follow-up, is this -- i'll let you expound upon it -- that is not unique to isis. we're seeing this recruiting of women, i guess as this one-upmanship supremacy for global jihad? >> absolutely. on twitter, the brides of isis, they're very -- it's like watching one of those awful reality series. real housewives of raqqah. they talk about the fact that their jihadi husbands have been martyred. but what they don't talk about, though, is the reality of life under the caliphate.

if you are married off to a jihadist, and he dies in the combat operation. you go back into this sorority. you await being married off to a lesser specimen. because now you're tainted gdz. isis is making use of women as sort of mouth pieces and megaphones as what they proclaim as a paradise. but young girls, the pearls of the calla fit, as contrasted with the cubs of the caliphate which would be young boys. so they're trying to create a society. and you can't create a society if you ignore 50% of the human species, which is women. so, i mean, it's a very sophisticated message. >> wribrian, i think what stand out to a lot of people that we learned about this couple that they had this 6-month-old daughter that they left with

farook's mother. a lot of parents wonder how that could happen. and pair that with never having any interaction with police. they were completely under the radar. >> yes, one of the things interesting talking about the black widow of chechnya. the woman bombed in her underwear, what i think is interesting, if the couple goes to paradise, now they've left a child on earth. doesn't make sense to us but to me a grand plan. if you're guaranteed an afterlife with your spouse, hey, you're leaving someone on earth to carry on -- >> a legacy? >> yes. >> brian, michael, thank you both. and we'll continue the conversation, of course, from san bernardino and send it back to christi in atlanta. christi, when we come back, we

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about from san bernardino on the california shooting rampage. but there are some other stories and headlines that we need to get to this morning, of course. after almost a year and a half of bombing strikes on isis, more than 20,000 bombs dropped, the air force says they're running out of munitions. in a statement, an air force official said it could take up to four years to stock up again. and they say more funding is needed to get that started. freddie gray did not get the help he needed that's what prosecutors say in day three for the first trial of the privilege involved in gray's death. gray died after apparently left in the back of a van without a seat belt on. prosecutors said when they called it was too late. and former patriot aaron hernandez in trouble again. this time caught with a shank, a knife, in his prison cell.

hernandez is serving a life sentence for murder and has been moved to a separate part of that prison. your next hour of "new day" starts right now. and thanks for staying with us this morning. we have several new developments about the san bernardino shooting. isis now speaking out about the attack calling the killers, quote, supporters. as, we now know that the u.p.s. package addressed to the two killers contained clothes. the u.p.s. facility was evacuated yesterday after after a driver saw a box addressed to the home. this is the image of tashfeen malik. she pledged her allegiance to abu al baghdadi. a co-worker says that he actually believes that malik was responsible for radicalizing her

husband syed rizwan farook. a lot was focused on this condo. it's the home of the terror suspects. and they left it cluttered with dishes in the kitchen. you see food there on the counter. we saw prayer beads there as well. baby toys. then they went out and massacred 14 people. injured 21 others. i was there. when the owner of that home, remember, it was rented, the owner of the home allowed the media inside, watch. >> reporter: as the door was pried open, a dramatic scene as a rush of reporters and camera crews were allowed inside the townhouse rented by syed farook and his wife tashfeen malik. the landlord allows reporters inside the home. >> we executed a search warrant on that apartment. we turned back to the residents. once the residents have the apartment and we're not in it anymore, we don't control it.

>> reporter: when you let them back in here? >> this is unreal. >> reporter: around the apartment. signs of life, familiar to families everywhere. clutter in the kitchen. toys belonging to the couple's 6-month-old daughter scattered on the floor. but it's here in the couple's bedroom closet where you find a sign of the intense investigation that took place as stephanie elam discovered during the tour of the home. >> here you can see where they smashed up in the ceiling to take a look at what is up here. it does appear that is based on how much debris on the glund there was an effort to make sure they got up there and checked every crevice of his back bedroom. >> reporter: personal identification and other documents belonging to farook's mother were left scattered on the bed. evidence of the couple's devout faith also seen. a prayer on the wall. prayer beads on the edge of the bed. in the corner, a crib belonging to their 6-month-old baby girl,

left with the grandmother on the day of the shooting. cnn legal analyst joey jackson joins me now. we as have law enforcement analyst art roderick. i want to start with you, art, as this was happening on live television. stephanie elam was up there. and i was on the ground floor. i could hear them appalled that this was happening. what was your reaction? >> i thought it was a very strange incident. i mean, they could have held on to the residence for another four or five days until things calmed down a little bit. i'm not sure -- they seem to think that they've got everything out of there. the case is in it's infancy, we just got the official word from them yesterday that it's a terrorist investigation. i would have held on to it a little longer. in case they had to go back and something triggered my memory. you know, as this investigation moves on. >> because it was on wednesdy. and they released on thursday?

>> yes, exactly. just the appearance of having that kind of helter-skelter thing going on in the apartment. if they just held on to it for another four or five days and then released it back. >> i don't think the land lord -- and i know i didn't expect it to turn into what it was -- scores, i'd say no fewer than 80 reporters and photographers in there, joey. at some point, a woman who was walking her dog just happened to be passing by. she was walking through the apartment with the dog. a woman had a baby over her shoulder. i saw the landlord at the end of this, leave in an unmarked law enforcement officer's car. is there any legal liability or ramification for that owner? >> i don't see that. i mean, look, here's the reality, the fbi did their job. they had a job to do. and they released it. you know, when the fbi is in there, to be clear, this is not a fly by night organization. this is the most sophisticated

organization on the face of the planet. having gone up against the fbi, i can tell you that. if they felt comfortable that they searched for, identified what they needed. cataloged what they needed and otherwise in the process of evaluating it, that's okay. now you get to the issue 6 whatever the landlord's liability. he has an interest in that property. the people there are deceased. as a result of that he felt it appropriate to open it up. the fbi didn't have any claims to it at that point. therefore, the landlord felt we can argue about the form. whether it was appropriate protocol, whether it should have beenterms of an investigation, i don't know that it impacts it greatly. i don't know if it was a crime scene that was stampled upon because it's no longer a crime scene. i don't see the landlord or owner being responsible for anything. and i don't see the fbi having dropped the ball. >> let me ask you, art. there's still questions as we

talked about at the top of the last hour, that were these two in cahoots with others? did they have support? what was their training? and if they find that there's some connection to other people, were there elements of evidence in this home that are now lost? >> some you look at the inventory sheet which by law you have to do with every search warrant, regardless of federal or state or local agency, you have to leave a signature sheet what you seized from residents. when you look at that sheet, it looks like, you got to give the fbi the benefit of the doubt, they felt very comfortable that they got everything out of there that they needed. from what we've heard now, they've got cell phones, hard drives, computers. it sounds like they've got everything out of there that they needed i agree with joey, that the fbi know what is they feed. you got to give them the benefit of the doubt that they got

everything they needed. >> art roderick, joey jackson, it was a bizarre scene, but we got invited in to share that glimpse of the home. thank you both. a group of doctors delivered a strong message to congress in the wake of gun control in the wake of this tragedy. we'll talk to one of them. that's coming up next. also, could this kind of shooting happen in another u.s. city? we're showing you what local and federal law enforcement authorities are doing to prevent that. music: "thunder clatter" by wild cub ♪ ♪ ♪

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this one is called for an end to the gun epidemic in america. and there's also a group of doctors who has a message for congress about guns, to end the ban on federal funds for gun violence research. equaling gun violence a leading cause of death in children. and comparing the need to research to studies of lead poisoning and car accidents. i want to discuss this with dr. emma agrawal, she's a pediatrician. there's a lot of people listening to this conversation who were not aware of this 20-year-old ban on federal funds for research on gun violence. >> i'm sorry, i can't hear you. >> oh, i'm sorry, that you're having difficulty hearing me. i was saying -- i'm sure it's a surprise to many people that

there is a ban on federal funds for research on gun violence. >> yes, unfortunately, 20 years ago, in 1996, representative dickey of arkansas offered an amendment that was inserted into the house operations bill, stopping funding for this, through the cdc, for doing gun violence research. and also defunded the cdc, $2.6 million that year. since then, we've been unable to do research on gun violence. as a result, we've made little progress in the fight to stop gun violence. >> you know, just after the shooting in charleston, south carolina. the then speaker of the house, infamously said that guns are not a disease. and we've not yet heard from the new speaker on reinstating federal laws for gun violence research. but i understand that a doctor

begins a search with at least a hypothesis. to begin this federally funded search what is your hypothesis as it relates to gun violence and children? >> gun violence is more than an epidem epidemic. anything that kills that many children that many americans is a public health epidemic. >> well, critics argue that this federal understanding for gun violence may lead to the infringement of second amendment rights to bear arms. what the the assurance that research won't lead to that? >> in the past, we've done research on many public health issues, including motor vehicle accidents. we don't take away motor vehicles. we make them safer. we put children to sleep on their backs. that's preventive for infant death syndrome.

we vaccinate children, that's improved our risk of child getting measles. all of these things have been done because of federally funded research. we need to do the same for gun violence. >> and what's your expectation that the funds will be reinstated? it's been 20 years and it hasn't happened since? >> i'm very optimistic. in the past week, we had 2,000 doctors stand up to congress and present a petition, urging congress to end this ban and appropriate the funding to the cdc. more and more health professionals are standing up and becoming aware of this ban. once they become aware of this ban, most people will agree that we need solutions. we need answers. we need to stop this public health epidemic. >> you know, before this was declared a terror investigation, there was a heated conversation about gun violence in america. but now that this is being investigated as terror, does that change the approach?

>> no, it doesn't change the approach. the reality is is that 90 americans die every day in this country from gun violence. when it be suicide, homicide, mass shootings. unintentional shootings. it happens every day. we need to address this as a public health epidemic. >> all right dr. nima agrawal. thank you for joining us this morning. next, we have a look at how other agencies in other cities are intending to deal with massacres like the one we saw here in san bernardino. i've been called a control freak...

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how likely is it that the massacre that happened in california could happen again in another city, a town in america? well, federal and local law enforcement officials across the country are actively training for this kind of scenario. cnn's nick valencia went to atlanta, georgia, and saw how they're preparing for an attack. >> in san bernardino, if that taught us anything, christi, is that a terrorist attack can happen anywhere. that's exactly the fear that fbi

talked to us about. we spoke to them to see how they're preparing in spreading awareness. >> reporter: it is terrifying realistic, but this is only a drill. simulation, part of active shooter training in a georgia high school. >> get down. >> i think the thing that keeps us awake at night is what we don't know. if were we don't know something. >> reporter: he says a shooting can happen anywhere at anytime. >> quite honestly, i do drills with my kids. i go to the mall. i have conversations with them about what do you do when you start to hear gunfire? i think it's a tough conversation but you need to have these conversations with your kids. >> reporter: in 2015 alone there have been more than 350 mass shootings, according to shootertracker.com. preparing people for a shooter inside a school considered a soft target is sam schardor's

job. >> reality is many things in society are part of the job. >> reporter: he works and keeps staff prepared for the case. >> run and get away from the scenario if you can. if you can't, hide and barricade yourself in a place that's substantial. if you can't hide as a last resort, protect yourself and others, fight with aggression. >> reporter: it was two weeks ago that security was enhanced outside of philips arena after an alleged isis attack after an event. >> things are going to happen no matter what. you can't live your life in fear. >> what i'm going to say is run. run as fast as you can. >> reporter: law enforcement officials say everyone should consider a safety plan before something actually does happen. a 2014 study found most active shootings end in five minutes or

less. after paris, the french government handed out these posters. printed on them, instructions on how to escape or hide during a terrorist attack. >> our ability to know what's going on out in the community every day is diminishing. so we're relying on the public even more every day. >> reporter: but for those who survived the shooting like eileen torres in san bernardino, there's little to be done to stop the fear. >> we're not ready to go back to work. you know, to know that some of our friends are gone and to know that massacre happened in the next building, it's not -- we don't feel safe. >> especially after that shooting in san bernardino, there are many that don't feel safe, especially at the workplace. so many we heard precautions that you're taking precautions at your workplace. there's so little to be said to provide comfort for people who have gone through this.

>> thanks very much. we're going to take you back out live to san bernardino with victor in just a moment. stay close.

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my partner victor blackwell out in california right now got a very unique perspective when he walked through the apartment where the two san bernardino shooters had been living. victor, one thing that stood out to me, the picture of the crib where the 6-month-old had lived her life up to that point.

but you went through it. what stood out to you? >> it was just the mixture of the, i guess, typical elements of a young family with a small child. the baby's toys. the play areas there in the home. covered by broken glass. and the obvious elements of that intense investigation, the front door broken in half. and it looked pass the last person there who we believe farook's mother with that baby left in a hurry. food on a plate and the evidence that could be left behind in that condo, christi. >> and what conversations were you having as you were walking through? >> well, i was on the phone with anderson cooper live. and i was speaking this is completely bizarre to be in this home at this time. just two days after this attack. but i was quite surprised by the list of things that were taken out of that home. more than 5,000 rounds of

ammunition, all part of this investigation. we'll continue talking about that as we continue our live coverage from san bernardino. that's coming up at 10:00 eastern, of course. >> all of that has been shipped to the fbi in virginia. that's going to do it for us here. "smerconish" is next. i'm michael smerconish. here we go again. that's what my colleague brooke baldwin said here on cnn wednesday as the earliest news started tricklinging out of san bernardino. she meant semi-automatic weapons, innocent victims, lockdown, shoot-out, rampage. and politicians immediately suited up in their usual jers six and resorted to the same old playbooks. republicans again said it was time to pray. the new york daily news wrote a