>> the threat from terrorism is the threat from terrorism is real but we will overcome it. >> president obama speaking passionate to millions, strongly condemning isis and calling wednesday's mass shooting in san bernardino a terrorist attack. >> it is clear that the two of them had gone down the dark path of radicalization. this was an act of terrorism. >> reporter: obama doubling down on his four-point strategy to defeat the terrorist group. >> the strategy that we are using now, air strikes, spesh forces and working with local forces fighting to regain control of their own country, it won't require us sending a new generation of americans overseas to fight and die for another decade on foreign soil. >> reporter: at home, obama putting stronger screenings on people arriving in the u.s. without a visa and insisting on more gun control. >> congress should act to make sure no one on a no-fly list is able to buy a gun. >> what would you do as president to prevent the mass

shootings. >> reporter: the policy gop presidential hopefuls are calling insufficient to tackle the evolving threat. donald trump tweeting is that all there is? he needs to stop all visas, not look at them. jeb bush proposing a more aggressive strategy, calling the fight against isis the war of our time. >> this is a real problem that muslims must confront without excuse. >> reporter: president obama ending his 13-minute speech with an appeal to muslims to root out extremist ideology while also calling on americans to reject discrimination. >> muslim-americans are our friends and our neighbors. our co-workers, our sports heroes. and yes, they are our men and women in uniform who are willing to die in defense of our country. >> reporter: senator marco rubio pushing back. >> where is there widespread evidence we have a problem in america with discrimination against muslims? and the refusal to call this for what it is, a war on radical

islams. i fear he may have made things worse tonight. >> reporter: among the many things to highlight here, the president said he does want a closer look at programs that allow people to come to the united states with or without visas in order to get a handle on visitors to the united states. back to you. >> okay, joe, thanks so much for setting all of that up. here to analyze now the president's address, cnn political commentator and washington correspondent for the new yorker, ryan lizza and senior contributor to the daily caller and conservative commentator matt lewis. he's also the author of "too dumb to fail, how the gop betrayed the reagan revolution to win elections." great to have you there. in that tweet donald trump sent out in which he said, is that all there is? we need a new president fast. he summed up the critics charge against it. what was new? >> i was going to say, trump for all of his flaws, he does have a talent for cutting to the heart of the issue, right? a lot of people who didn't like

the speech said where's the new strategy? there wasn't a lot new. even the one thing where he did call on congress to do something that could lead to a new debate, the authorization for the use of military force which we don't have, we are relying on this 2001 authorization -- >> why? >> because congress doesn't want to debate it. they are scared to have that fight. if there's one political angle that comes out of this speech, it's important, is a challenge to congress to step up and debate how this war should be going and give the executive branch the authority it should have. you have several senators running for president and none of these guys want to go back into congress and put this on the floor and debate it. we are relying on this flimsy 2001 resolution that existed before al baghdadi or any of isis existed. >> now, the political play here is what ryan just laid out, matt, is completely unspoken in the political dialogue. the idea of why we are doing what we're doing, why we're not

doing more, has an answer, doesn't it? but it's not a good answer for congress. so they're ignoring that part of the analysis. what's your take? >> well, look, i felt last night president obama did one good thing which the moral clarity which has not been there was more prevalent. he talked about radicalization. he said the word terrorism. i think that's a good start. he also laid out a strategy for defeating isis which frankly was recycled, nothing new. clearly has not been effective in defeating isis. i think he wanted to reassure the american people, unfortunately, it's hard to do that when, you know, the day before paris, he says isis is contained. the day before thanksgiving he says there's no credible threat. clearly his comforting and reassuring is not that reassuring. the last thing i did is spell out these action items. unfortunately, the vast majority of the things he wants to do, including gun control, has nothing to do with what happened in san bernardino. you have essentially a speech

that i'm not sure really had a point other than could have been a press release saying, yes, this was radical extremism. >> here's one of the action items that he talked about. and it's the how about not letting people on the terror no-fly list not be able to get their hands on guns. let's play that moment. >> congress should take right away, to begin with, congress should act to make sure no one on a no-fly list is able to buy a gun. what could possibly be the argument for allowing a terror suspect to buy a semiautomatic weapon? this is a matter of national security. >> okay. to matt's point, sensible. but what does that have to do with what happened in san bernardino? >> that's a good point. sometimes the solutions that are promoted here are not necessarily a direct response to the san bernardino or the issue at hand but things that, in general, might be a good thing to do. congress, they have to get out of town by december 11th.

they have to get the spending bills done. the democrats want another vote on this, they want this to be in the final year negotiations. you'll have another fight over that issue in congress. >> seems to be off topic. let me ask you something, we always talk about words. why are words so important? he said terrorism lots of times. what he doesn't say is islamic extremism. he could make a cogent, as his people do. they don't want to make a distinction because they think it's going to war against a faith. why do you need to hear those words? >> i think it's appropriate to parse language very carefully. i do not think we should be promiscuous in the way that we define the enemy. i think it is wise to be prudent. i would say, however, it's hard to defeat an ideology. it's hard to defeat a problem if you're so politically correct

that you're not willing to call it what it is. so i'm not for paunting with a broad brush. we're not at wrar with islam. we are at war with radical islamists. you have to be willing to call it that. if you can't call it that, i don't know how you're going to marshal the energy and the passion and the sacrifice it's going to take to defeat it. >> i'm of two minds about this. >> you have to pick one. that's the what show is about, ryan. wee of two minds. that's why we're here. >> there's a certain political correctness. i talked to jeh johnson, secretary of homeland security about this interview over the summer. you're being politically correct. why don't you say it as matt points out. >> their argument when they go into muslim communities in the united states, that's the first thing that gets the islamic communities back up. in that clip you played of the president, if you want neighbors, friends, people, muslims in america to be on your side and to root out extremists or people who have gone over to

the other side, the dark side, you need their trust. and you have to -- the government has to be seen as being on their side. that's one of their con kcessio to the muslim community in the united states, talk about it in a different way, recruit muslims as an ally for the government. >> you talked about how you're not sure this speech will help to reis aur americassure americ nerve-racked by this. it was released, taken, the respondents answered before the san bernardino crisis and here's what it said. how is obama handling isis? only 33% approve of how he's doing it. 64% disapprove. so what -- what were people hoping the president would say to your mind? what do you think the president should have said to sort of quell some of the anxiety? >> that was to matt, right? >> yes, matt. sorry. >> oh, sorry.

>> he really wanted to own the question. i respect the tactic. >> i'm not sure this speech needed to be delivered again. this is a president who, you know, the day before paris said isis is contained. the day

there is blame to go around. republicans are not sure what they want to do. do they want to go in more with ground troops? there's a soul searching taking place on the right right now. i think that it's fair to hold the president to a higher standard. i think it isç who the command in chief is, thankless as it might be, is to provide a vision, inspire them into joining him or scare them into joining him. it's a high bar, i'll grant you. but he has not risen to the occasion. i think if you look at where

we're at in this country, it feels like things are falling apart. i think that's part of the reason why donald trump, for example, is doing so well. >> you cut to the heart of the issue here. when you look at republicans, especially the ones running for president are actually saying you should do, when you look at what obama is doing, the gap is narrow. >> it's hard to say you're at war when you don't want to declare war. >> lindsey graham is saying let's put 10,000 troops there but no one else is willing to do that. the san bernardino shooter's father speaking out that his son backed isis and was fixated on israel. this is new details emerge connecting the 28-year-old to terrorist organizations. dan simon is live in san bernardino, california. it's a new week, a community beginning to heal. what do we know this morning? >> were was there a turning point? we know the shootshooter, sigh -

syed farook. his father said among other things is that his son shared in the ideology of al baghdadi, the isis leader and that he was fixated on israel. the father said he never met his own daughter-in-law. and so one of the things that investigators are trying to do is probe into her background, in saudi arabia and pakistan. tashfeen malik, of course, is her name. that's where she lived before becoming to the u.s. on a fiancee visa. she was radicalized before coming to the u.s. is one thing we're hearing. michaela, there's a lot to pore over, a lot jx electronic data from phones and computers. but the destruction of that evidence and recovering it

apparently has proven to be difficult. michaela? >> i'll take it, dan, thank you very much. it looks like the entire chicago police department will be put under a microscope. the justice department will soon launch an investigation into how the force operates overall. it's calling the department-wide investigation a result of requests that were made after the release of dashcam video of that failed shooting of laquan mcdonald, the black teen shot 16 times, you'll remember, of course it was done by an officer who is now charged with first degree murder. >> voters in venezuela, demanding a shake-up and getting one. the country's opposition party regaining control of the national assembly, winning sunday's election by nearly 2-1 margin. it tos months of protests as the decline in oil prices exceeded the economy. president nicholas --

jimmy carter says he is cancer-free. he says the latest mri scan of his brain showed no sign of the original cancer spots and no new ones. president carter was first diagnosed with brain kans are over the summer, you'll recall. his treatments have included an experimental drug that was just approved by the fda. i imagine this news is going to be greeted with such excitement from other people that have been diagnosed similarly. >> if it worked for a 91-year-old, it can work for other people. >> absolutely. >> no average guy. being president of the united states is the least of his qualities. i'll never forget what he did for that little kid poet matty stepanek. the radicalization of americans might be the single biggest threat we face leads to what we saw in san bernardino. what they call lone wolf

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understandably after what happened in san bernardino, so the president takes to the bully pulpit and we get a promise that he will destroy isis. with the threat of it evolving into lone wolves and different types of radicalization here, what can we do? what should we do? what are we not doing? phil mudd is a former cia counterterrorism official and mr. paul cruickshank is cnn analyst as well. also the co-author of "agent storm, myç life inside al qaed and the cia." phil mudd is saying why didn't you say the name of my book? >> have you ever written a book? >> i have. here's the answer. arguably they did not get what they wanted. is it an unreasonable

expectation? >> what the president is sitting back and saying with this wasn't a policy speech. isis has lost ground since we were concerned about their gains toward baghdad in 2014. >> seems they're more of them and more present and more attacks than ever. >> you candice putt, again, what to do about it. you can't dispute the facts. the flow of recruits in the united states according to the fbi director is flowing. the border is tightening. you can say we had a tragedy in the united states. if you want to transfer that to the united states, therefore, the battle against isis is losing, i'd say give me some facts. i don't see it yet. >> paul cruickshank, you know what the facts are. we're hearing these concerns from people not just in the united states but paris. you don't see them coming. they seem to be radicalizing at a greater rate than you can control them. what are some of the true observations of the state of play?

>> well, i think that the trouble with the war on isis is that we're winning too slowly, that it will take too long to take out this terrorist safe haven. we're looking now at a number of years before you can even start to think about eradicating isis from this dangerous safe haven, the most dangerous safe haven we've ever seen in history, that includes al qaeda on the day of 9/11. and the worry is that isis is increasingly pivoting towards international terrorism. we've seen 40 attacks around the world in the last year linked to isis in one way, shape or form where you have a more direct isis role.ç and we've seen the fact that people are responding around the world, including in the united states, to the isis message. what shows launch attacks in our name. it's that very territorial control that they have in syria and iraq and also growing parts

of libya, which gives them that legitimacy, that persuasive power. there's a direct relationship between that attack in san bernardino and the fact that there is a caliphate now which supporters believe is under attack by the united states. >> so i stay on this point of criticism then, because despite what you say is qualified success, it seems, according to the white house report on isis and what paul just said, it is spreading. their reach is now beyond what it used to be in indonesia and other places. that's what the white house report is about. we just saw paris. paul just said, 40 attacks. we have a president and administration that won't say the words terror in any connection to any muslim at all how are we on the right page? >> i don't care about what the president says. i care about action. the question that's not being answered, the gap we didn't see ask not what we do in the united states about gun control. it's good geographic space. you cannot defeat a terror organization developing a capability to send people into paris or san bernardino without

destroying their space. to destroy their space you have to have a process, a political process, like it or not in syria, that means there will be some international coalition that owns space once you retake it. you can bomb all you want. my question is who will take over that space once you bomb it and clear it from isis? the easy answer is bomb the hell out of them. my answer is you have to get to the hard question. what's the political process to ensure when you bomb the hell out of them, who is sitting on the grounded to take on that space? >> that's the problem we have in afghanistan and iraq. that's the concern we have in yemen. you go in there, slap people around, then you leave a vacuum. do you think that right now that part of the plan is where it needs to be? >> well, i mean, that's the concern, the potential vacuum even after you make progress against isis. but i think there's just one big alarming fact here. it's theç fact there's a lack

sunni arab forces locally and regionally that are willing and capable to take on isis. we see that in iraq. the iraqi army is dominated by shia forces. you've got all the shia militias. there's not enough sunnis who are part of the army to take on isis. in syria, you don't have sunni arab forces either, really. you have kurdish forces but it's sunni arab forces that you'll need to take on isis. so much disperigee is there that you can make life unpleasant in this caliphate. others will spontaneously overthrow isis. that's the dir -- disparity right now. the whole strategy is based on a

lot of wishful thinking right now. >> right. critics say it's not unlike what my 12-year-old is doing in hopes for a segue at christmastime, wishful thinking. mr. crank shank, phillip mudd, thank you very much. alisyn? a nervous obama telling a nation that isis will be defeated. critics say he did not sell out a plan. what should happen? that's next. what makes this sime best simple salad ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple veggie dish ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple dinner ever? heart healthy california walnuts. great tasting, heart healthy california walnuts. so simple. get the recipes at walnuts.org. ...one of many pieces in my life. so when my asthma symptoms kept coming back on my long-term control medicine, i talked to my doctor and found a missing piece

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>> that was president obama standing by the current strategy to fight isis in a rare oval office address. he vowed to destroy the terror group but a new intelligence report finds isis is not contained. joining us now is nicholas burns, the former undersecretary for political affairs, also former state department official and former u.s. ambassador to greece. good morning, mr. ambassador. thanks so much for being here. >> good morning. thank you. >> critics say this speech was short on specifics in terms of how to truly destroy isis. did you hear anything new or different in what the president said? >> i didn't hear much new. i think it was a speech designed to reassure the american people and explain to them the complexity of this fight. the president has put in place, he deserves credit for this, a big coalition to defeat isis. the problem is, that some major members of the coalition, turkey not doing enough because it's too focused on the kurdish problem, the russian, more

intent on focusing on assad, protecting president assad in syria than fighting the arab state and saudi arabia, the united arab emirates, kuwait, sitting this out. they're focused more on yemen. it's a big coalition but it's barely containing isis. it's not on the road to defeat it right now. >> in fact, there's a new intelligence assessment, commissioned by the white house. but the white house in fact, got it right before san bernardino. and what it found is that isis is not contain. in fact, staying the course wouldç allow isis to spread through countries that it currently is not even in. so that's not reassuring. did you hear anything the president say that was reassuring? >> well, i heard a lot that was reassuring. i thought the president spoke very, very well in making sure that we don't turn this into a war against muslims in general and islam, that we understand

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with the aumf, in other words, authorizing officially this war. but strategically or tactically speaking, how would that change what the administration is doing to fight isis? >> you know, i think that is sensible for the president to suggest that. what it might do is help to unite the congress with the executive branch, with our military in establishing what we're trying to do and get the country united behind that. the president is relying on authorities that are well more than a decade old. it's been from the post-9/11 era, after the attacks on the united states then, we clearly need a new definition of how to defeat the islamic state and the other terrorist groups, how to develop a comprehensive policy to do that and to have congress and the administration on board together makes perfect sense to me. i thoughtç the president was right to call for that. >> it sounds like what you're saying it would be very hard to do this without a true coalition of really willing partners. you are a diplomat.

what is the problem? why hasn't the u.s. been able to put that really together? >> i think russia has completely different interests than the united states. russia is acting hypocritically. they're saying they want to destroy the islamic state but doing very little. the key country till be turkey. if we can get the turks to close down the border over which the islamic state is exporting oil into the black market in turkey, that will be a considerable achievement. president obama met with president erdogan ten days ago. we have to put pressure on the arab world. their future is at stake, especially the sunni arabs. i mentioned the gulf arab countries led by saudi arabia. they're not in this fight, not through the air and certainly not on the ground. they should be supplying ground troops into syria and northern iraq to help the iraqi government, especially, to cope with the islamic state threat. >> former ambassador nicholas

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the justice department is poised to launch a probe into the chicago police department following uproar over the fatal shooting of young laquan mcdonald. the city is set to release video from another controversial police shooting. ryan young live in chicago. this shooting happened around the same time as laquan mcdonald died. >> reporter: good morning, michaela. this shooting happened eight days beforehand. we talked to the attorney involved in this case. he says this one is going to make people in chicago upset when they see the details and find out nothing has happened to this officer as well. >> what do we want in the. >> justice! >> reporter: as the justice department plans to announce a probe into the chicago police department, another city official out of a job, overnight, mayor rahm emanuel

announcing chicago's police review leader resigned effectively. they will expand the probe into the shooting of 17-year-old laquan mcdonald by officer jason van dyke in october of 2014. over weekend, newly released police reports sparking renewed outrage. reports from the night of the shooting contradict what actually plays out in this police dashcam video. according to van dyke's account, quote, mcdonald raised a knife across his chest and over his shoulder pointing the knife at van dyke and attempting to kill van dyke. in the video we see mcdonald walking with a knife in his right hand. authorities say he had just punctured the tire of a police cruiser. six seconds after, getting out of his car, van dyke opens fire as the teen is seen walking away from police. van dyke's handwritten report says, quote, in defense of his

life, van dyke back pedaled and fired his handgun at mcdonald to stop the attack. at least five officers corroborate van dyke's persian of events, a stark contrast to the video. >> no justice, no peace. >> reporter: this as chicago prepares for the release of dashcam video from yet another fatal police shooting. the family of 25-year-old ronald johnson suspicious of the police account that johnson was shot dead after pointing a weapon at officers. >> it's been over a year that my son been murdered and y'all still haven't did y'all job to convict this cop of murder. >> reporter: now, michaela, something that stands out to us, something we wanted to point out as well, in this second case there will be no audio to the video as well. people are pointing to that as another way they think the chicago police department is trying to cover things up. it's time for change and they want to see serious action over the next few weeks. michaela? >> we'll talk about this more in

the upcoming hour. thank you so much. new details emerging from the san bernardino terror attack. the early word was that the family was blind sided. remember? were they? new information on that and also, whether it was the wife behind the extreme islamist radicalization.

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question, are women the new tool for terrorists? we had the elusive so-called black widow, you'll remember, who helped in the kosher market attack in par russ. others were involved in the recent massacre. now this murderer wife in san bernardino. let's bring in sasha havlicek. it's good to have you on. what is your analysis of the role of women, increasing, static, different? >>le with, increasing. the first thing to note about this terrible attack is that we shouldn't be surprised. for a long time my organize has been following the online lives

of women from the west who have joined isis. of course women in extremist groups is nothing new. this is happening now in unprecedented numbers.ç from all around the world and, of course, from western countries. we should also note that there have been cases of men being taken off of watch lists because they've been deemed less troublesome, less potentially harmful because they're in long-term relationships with women. lo and behold, women can radicalize just as much as men. they are the targets of a very specific recruitment drive by isis. isis sees the value of recruiting women very specifically. and so we shouldn't be ignoring this phenomenon. >> what do you make of this suggestion that maybe what happened here was that this woman was a plant on a dating site that she had been radicalized herself and was not out there looking almost trolling for a man to turn in the u.s. and do exactly what

happened in san bernardino. is there anything to that? or is that just a scary theory? >> we don't know, of course, what happened here. but we shouldn't be surprised, again, that a woman could be the primary radicalizer in this relationship. we have seen in the past couples radicalizing and plotting together. this isn't something new. we, again, through the analysis that we've done of the narratives of women who have joined isis, they are extremely violent. isis prohibits women joining battle on the battlefield but the narratives that they project through their social media accounts, where they're extremely active are extremely violent and desirous of violence, inciteful of violence. i wouldn't say it was impossible at all. >> the question is what to do. if you look at the woman here in san bernardino, people saw her as modernized, as coming into this country by marriage.

but supposedly because she wanted a better way of life and she winds up pledging allegiance to al baghdadi if you believe the reporting on it. what is the new challenge? what needs to be done? >> well, i think in part this case and of course we're talking now about the women. this case underscores the challenge of domestic radicalization. policymakers in the united states have thought that because of the superior track record in the u.s. in terms of integration, socioeconomic integration of specific communities that this simply wasn't going to affect the united states as it has europe, for instance. i think it's really important to understand that radicalization is happening in every single part of the world and that understanding it purely from a a socioeconomic perspective is wrong-headed. classes and groups across educational attainment, for

instance, can be high among recruits. it's important to understand, it isn't just young men. it is professionals. it is people with families. it is women. and the domestic radicalization challenge requires us to take on the ideological underpinnings to this organization. isis is one manifestation of this broader problem which is this extremist ideology which we have allowed to take hold unchallenged for 30 years. this is just the fact that social media has hypercharged it in the way that it has just means that it's a bigger challenge than ever. >> it's just about more, not different. understood. sasha havlicek, thank you very much for the perspective. appreciate it. allegations of a cover-up after police reports and dashcam video paint vastly different pictures of a deadly police shooting. we'll take a look at the trouble, the embattled police department of chicago could face, next.

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the justice department expected to open a civil rights investigation into the chicago police department in the wake of dashcam video of the controversial shooting death of a black teen, laquan mcdonald. it comes as police reports from that night emerge. they paint a vastly different picture from the video -- what the video captures, fueling

allegations of a cover-up. downing us now is cnn contributor bakari sellers. we know the boj is not going to investigate. chicago mayor rahm emanuel is expected to have another police conference addressing police accountability. you wrote an interesting op-ed. you say he lost his fauj and trust in the public. tell us more. >> yes, i think during this process, one thing we saw was that rahm emanuel never looked at laquan mcdonald as a tragic consequence to a broken system. instead, he looked at him as another political opportunity. he didn't look at him as someone, as an african-american male who didn't get the benefit of their humanity. he was nothing more than a political calculation. he withheld that tape for 400 days. though he didn't protect him from harm while he was alive within he had a duty to make sure mr. mcdonald received justice. he failed at that.

mr. çemanuel failed at the bas tenets of transparency. i think this system in chicago rots from the top. i know we're loyal to our own respective parties but even as a democrat, i can't say that rahm emanuel needs to be mayor of chicago. >> rahm emanuel also wrote an op-ed defending the delay and bristling at the fact that it had something to do with his re-election. this is what he says -- you say it trumps transparency and accountability. >> that's obvious. one of the things you see we had 400 days. it took one lone journalist to keep his fight up, and props to him, for continuing this fight so we could actually see this video. rahm emanuel withheld this video. he knew or should have known what was on this video. he settled this case with the family, announced the settlement after his re-election.

you know, i understand political gainsmanship probably better than most. but right now, my loyalty is not to a party. my loyalty is not to a man. my loyalty is to justice. i think many people see that and many people are troubled by rahm emanuel's reactions. >> over the weekend, hundreds of documents were released, including the police reports from that night. it's very interesting, bakari, they paint a vastly dump story than what the videotape released. officer van dyke felt mcdonald was acting aggressively toward him and that's why he opened fire even after the teen had fallen to the ground. i'm curious what you think the reaction in chicago will be like the week after the release of these documents. >> well, what it does is just feeds the distrust that many people already have for these broken systems that are in our country. look, this is not just something we've seen here with the chicago shooting. we've seen it throughout the country where police reports simply don't match up to the actions that occurred.

whether or not it's walter scott or anyone else, we've seen where we literally have a system, a criminal justice system in our country, that needs to be remedied from top down. and what we're seeing right now is not[k just one instance buto incidents in chicago. >> right. >> i hope that that city remains together and finds peace and justice. >> that second incident you're talking about, ryan young reporting about a 25-year-old ronald johnson, also killed by police in october of 2014. he was shot in the back, the family says, he was unarmed. police say he had a gun and threatened officers, the family believes that gun was planted on him after. this is also another delay in getting that tape released. 13 months for laquan mcdonald. for ronald johnson it will be a little bit more than that. the mayor says these tapes are only held while the course of the investigation is run. do you think there's any cause for these tapes to not be -- to be withheld for so long? and do you think this is something the doj is going to have to address?

>> i don't want to say it's a lie but let me just say it doesn't smell of the truth. because the department of justice has already stated it didn't ask for these tapes to be withheld. the fact of the matter is, there are way too many inconsistencies in this. my frustration is that we keep coming back and ma kail michael have these conversations every other month. yes, this young man was carrying a knife in the street. we also know that is a crime that the sentence is not death. that is what the young african-american males, they see. in chicago we have a leader who happens to a democrat who just cannot get their head out of the clouds and see that we have a real problem in this country. right now he's a part of it. >> bakari, it will be interesting to see what happens this week. we'll be watching it. likely we'll be talking to you again. thank you. a lot of news for us to get to this morning, so let's do it. the terrorist threat has evolved into a new phase.

>> the american people do not think the president is handling this the right way. >> we should not be drawn once more into a long and costly ground war. that's what groups like isil want. >> this was a stay the course speech. >> will that convince the american public that we're safer? >> the same strategy that has brought us to this point is the strategy he's going to continue with. >> donald trump twweting, is that all there is? >> the refusal to call this for what it is, the war on radical islam, not only did the president not make things better, i fear he may have made things worse. >> the central question for investigators is how this husband and wife became ral callized. >> relatives in pakistan tell cnn they were increasingly becoming concerned about the shift in character. this is "new day," with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. good morning, everyone. welcome ba to your "new day." president obama trying to calm a

jittery nation in a rare prime time address from the oval office he pledged a, quote, smart and relentless campaign to defeat isis. >> his critics are pouncing, saying there was a lack of specifics in the president's address. let's get more on where the war on isis goes from here. joe johns live at the white house with more. joe? >> good morning, chris. a relatively short sunday night address from the president of the united states, confirming that the attacks in san bernardino were in fact acts of terror. the president in the process firing up his critics and saying the administration is not doing enough. >> the threat from terrorism is real. we will overcome it. >> reporter: president obama speaking passionately to millions in a rare oval office address late sunday.

strongly condemning isis and calling wednesday's mass shooting in san bernardino a terrorist attack. >> it is clear that the two of them had gone down the dark path of radicalization. this was an act of terrorism. >> reporter: obama doubling down on his four-point strategy to defeat the terrorist group. >> the strategy that we are using now, air strikes, special forces and working with local forces fighting to regain control of their own country, it won't require us sending a new generation of americans overseas to fight and die for another decade on foreign soil. >> reporter: at home, obama putting stronger screenings on people arriving in the u.s. without a visa and insisting on more gun control. >> congress should act to make sure no one on a no-fly list is able to buy a gun. >> what would you do as president to prevent the mass shootings? ç >> reporter: the policy gop presidential hopefuls are calling insufficient to tackle the evolving threat. donald trump tweeting is that all there is? and retweeting, he needs to stop all visas, not look at them. jeb bush proposing a more aggressive strategy, calling the fight against isis the war of our time. >> this is a real problem that muslims must confront without excuse. >> reporter: president obama

ending his 13-minute speech with an appeal to muslims to root out extremist ideology while also calling on americans to reject discrimination. >> muslim-americans are our friends and our neighbors. our co-workers, our sports heroes. and yes, they are our men and women in uniform who are willing to die in defense of our country. >> reporter: senator marco rubio pushing back. >> where is there widespread evidence we have a problem in america with discrimination against muslims? and the refusal to call this for what it is, a war on radical islams. not only did the president not make things better tonight, i fear he may have made things worse tonight. >> reporter: next week, the international approach to extremist groups will get a second look when the finance ministers of u.n. security council countries get together to find way of streamlining to cut off the cash.

>> will there be a shift in military strategy in the war on isis? barbara starr live at the pentagon with more for us. good morning, barbara. >> reporter: maybe not a mass deployment of ground troops but make no mistake, there will be ground troops. the pentagon preparing to send dozens of special forces into iraq, possibly into syria as well. it's all about now getting those special forces on the ground, essentially right next to isis, an acknowledgement this is the best way to find out what isis is up to, where they are, what they are doing. these special forces with their support could number upwards of 200 troops. they will be having the task of conducting raids. we've seen that before. gathering intelligence. we've seen that.ç but a very fundamental difference now. there will be an emphasis on trying to capture top isis operatives and that means if they can capture them, they feel

they can get better intelligence through interrogation. that means the u.s. military in a very small way, but back in the business of detaining and interrogating terror suspects overseas. that will be a very significant change. now, you know, all of this may take some time. u.s. officials are telling us it could be several weeks before this whole operation is on the ground and up and running. chris? >> barbara, as we remember, the tactic was seens affective against al qaeda. we'll see what happens here. let's break down the president's speech. we have fareed zakaria and john king, host of "inside politics." good to have you here. last night, how do you define what he needed to do and what he got done in terms of the president's speech? >> this was clearly a speech where he wanted to use the oval office, the pulpit to try to explain what the united states was doing to defeat isis and i

think he's been watching a lot of politicians, a lot of republican candidates use this crisis, use the terrorist attack, to play with the fears of american people, play with fire in a sense. i think he saw his job as almost being the fireman, to douse those fires, calm people down, put this in perspective. probably the most important, honest thing he said was he talked about the evolution of the terrorist threat and pointed out we have been pretty successful everywhere around the world at stopping the terrorist attacks at big symbolic target which is kill hundreds of -- >> the 9/11 style attack. >> yes, the 9/11 style attack. as a result, isis decided to go underground and inspire lone wolf attacks, targets that can't be defended. how can you defend every cafe in paris and every community center

in the united states? in doing that, i think he was trying to have anç adult conversation with the american people. these are things you cannot protect every one of these places. i want you to understand. the reiteration of the strategy, of course, is the strategy against isis. and what is interesting is while you did hear a lot of republican candidates attack him, none of them proposed any significant change in that strategy. >> john, let's talk about the politics of this speech because obviously a sunday night address from the oval office suggests a momentous announcement of some kind. and his critics say it didn't live up to that. what's the political reaction? >> the instant political reaction is nothing the president said that scared the republicans away from what fareed was just talking about. from the leading republican voices on foreign policy, you had condemnation of the speech, politicians saying things like his head is in the clouds, he's in denial about what it takes. you don't have the other

politicians saying here's what i would do differently in a major way, saying ground troops, for example. what they mostly say is the president has failed to grasp the scope of the problem. they say he's wrong not to call it radical islam terrorism, not that isis would lay down their arms if the president spent all 12 minutes doing that. they say it's a failure of leadership. they would lead a better coalition, somehow get the arabs to fight, maybe they would get the russians to behave better, turkey to seal its border. where's the proof in that? that's why we have campaigns, i guess. the challenge for the president, the political challenge for the president is look at the calendar. he has 400 days left in his administration. this is a time where many presidents drift into what we rightly or wrongly call lame duck territory. the president went into this speech with two-thirds of the american people saying they didn't think he had a clear strategy. he decided not to give much new last night. the american people watched people mowed down at a holiday

party. last night was the first night of hanukkah, we're two weeks from christmas. the american people clearly want more from their president. the question is could he convince them last night, at least the down payment on couldn't convincing them, i get th this. 1ñ this is what he was trying to tell people. >> the what to call it thing, fareed comes and goes. there's emphasis on not ever connecting the idea of what's happening with islam. you think it's a mistake by the president to play nuance? the defense they use as well in the muslim community doesn't like it. that's not going to wash. we hear it abroad from member states saying you want us to help you and you call us all bad. what is the back and forth? >> you put it exactly right. the big problem, the reason they haven't done it, people like the king of jordan, the turks say please don't call this radical islam. it legitimizes them. i probably think it is -- people have got hung up on, look, if we

could call it radical islam, we weren't going to drop one more bomb or one less bomb on isis or one more or less special op. i don't understand how the strategy would be different. obama did give an entire speech at the united nations last year calling what was going on in the world of islam a cancer, talking about how muslims needed to root it out. he talked about it again here. it's fair to say that his critics have found, you know, a weakness, a place where they have leverage and they can keep pressing -- >> how can you fight something you won't even identify. >> right. even though he does call it a cancer, he does talk about how muslims must confront the reality that it exists within the community. >> here's the trump tweet. he hits the hammer on it. >> exactly. >> in a way, i wonder if they could go back, what's the difference between calling it a cancer or violence within the muslim world and radical islam, i'm not sure. but they have found a useful

rhetorical ploy. here's the part which was important. if you're going to identify would-be terrorists, you need to have good relations within these communities between the law enforcement officials. you talk to ray kelly, bill bratton, anyone who has maintained peace and they will tell you the single best sources of intel are those communities. it is worth asking yourself, you know, how would they respond to this? and the president at the end ofc the day seems to be me to be willing to take the political hit because he knows he's going to take a political hit. he knows the talking heads are all going to say he didn't announce a big new policy. he's not going to invade syria. he's taking that political hit because he thinks this is the right thing. only time will judge. in a sense it's an act of political boldness. >> john, part of the stated goal of last night was to quell the anxiety that has gripped america since paris and san bernardino that we have polls suggesting that americans feel anxious and

they are not happy with how the president has been handling isis so far. only 33% approve. 64% disapprove of how the president has handled it. last night, did that -- is that mission accomplished? do you think americans are less anxious after hearing the president last night? >> we'll see what the data shows us in five to seven days, what the american people think. the president understands the moment, he understands the political climate we've been talking about, which is why you heard him say, i get this. every morning i get my intelligence brief, trust me, i understand the threat. he talks about being a parent of would young daughters and how that struck him, especially to see those people killed at a holiday reception. that's the point he was trying to make to people, i get this but in a trademark obama way, kind cool, calm, collected. and very nuanced. can he sell that to the american people at a time that maybe some of them want more anger and urgency out of their president? i think that is the defining test. because we're in this political environment, it makes it harder for the president. on the question fareed was just talking about, you have a

nuanced, balanced president. he says you cannot deny there's extremism in the muslim communities here in america and we have to root it out and we need help rooting it out. americans must not blanket discriminate against muslims. that's your balanced president speaking in nuances. donald trump says don't let syrian refugees in, kick them out. have a data base. the president is trying to breakthrough where the campaign under way to replace him is louder. it's easier to run for president than it is to be president. can the president break through or have, because of where he is in his presidency, because of people's disappointment in the effectiveness of his strategy so far, can he break through and get them to listen? i think we have toç watch that play out. it reminds me very much of late in the george wrc. bush administration when people were so mad about the iraq war, katrina frustration came in on top of that and they stopped listening to their president. what did hillary clinton think of the president's speech?

we don't know because she said nothing. if the president loses democrats at this moment, he's in trouble. >> john king, fareed zakaria, great to have you and your insight. thanks so much. michaela? the father of the san bernardino shooter speaking out saying his son backed isis and was obsessed over israel. new details surfacing linking that 28-year-old to terrorist organizations. dan simon is live in san bernardino with the latest for us. dan? >> reporter: many g morning, michaela. the central question this morning is how this young husband and wife became radicalized and was there a turning down that ultimately led to the shooting. one of the headings, syed farook reached out to al qaeda-linked terrorist organizations at some point. we're getting more insight from syed farook's own father. he said his son shared the ideology of al baghdadi, the leader of isis, that he was

fixated on israel. it's worth pointing out that the father did not know his own daughter-in-law. we do know that investigators are looking into the wife's past, tashfeen malik, lived in both pakistan and saudi arabia before coming to the u.s. on a fiance visa. one of the working series here, according to a law enforcement source, is that she was radicalized prior to meeting her husband. a law enforcement source says that in terrorism sort of circles when they look athese kind of things, this has been a male dominated industry. but isis seems to be uprighting those conventions. finally we should point out that authorities are trying to recover a lot of electronic evidence because of those destroyed phones and destroyed hard drives, they're apparently having a hard time doing so. alisyn? >> thanks so much for the latest on the investigation. british authorities charging a terror suspect with attempt itted murder after allegedly stabbing two people atç a trai station in east london. you can see the cell phone video.

it shows the suspect pacing around with a knife before british police take him down with a stun gun. which you'll see shortly. authorities -- there you go. looking into reports that he was shouting, this is for syria during the attack. one victim suffered serious injury. voters in france throwing support behind the country's far right national party and the country's first regional election since the paris attacks. the center right republicans party led by former president nicolas sarkozy is in second. analysts say the voters are taking their terror jitters to the polls, favoring the hard-line party calling for gre greater. >> one point bono wrapped himself in the french flag. he said the band stands together with the families of those that were killed in terror attacks. >> we have few words to speak to

the loss that you are feeling in this city tonight. even if we think we know a little something about grief, i guess grief is like a wound that never fully closes. >> u2 plays another show in paris tonight. aren't the eagles of deaf metal also playing? >> that was the band at the bataclan. >> beautiful stand of unity. it didn't take long for critics, like trump, to jump on president obama's speech last night. we also have bill de blasio's take on the speech. he joins us live, next. ♪

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president obama using a prime time address to the nation to make his case for his strategy against isis. new york city, of course, is among the u.s. cities threatened by isis. here to talk about the president's speech and so much more, new york city mayor, bill de blasio. thanks so much for being here.

>> you're welcome. >> the president last night tried to quell the anxieties of americans. americans are very nervous about what they've seen in paris and san bernardino as are new yorkers. we feel as though not only are we a target but people are living here already that mean to do us harm. did the president successfully quell those anxieties. >> he laird out a very clear plan. i think he spoke a lot of truth that needed to be spoken as well. he made clear that isis wants to see internal division in this country, wants to see a negative attitudewards the muslim community in this country. and that kind of division actually making us less safe. the president pointed out, we need to be muscular in our approach to isis overseas. we need to disrupt and ultimateultimate ly destroy them but we need to keep our internal cohesion. we can't have americans turning against americans. >> in terms of his strategy, the plan you say he successfully laid out, after paris and san

bernardino, among other things, it doesn't feel like isis is contained in fact, a new intelligence assessment delivered to the white house before san bernardino says they predict isis will spread throughout the globe. it doesn't feel contained. how is his strategy working? >> i don't think any of us would say they're quote, unquote contained at this point. >> the president has said that. >> in the past. he obviously has made clearer that there's work to do and they must be totally defeated. i couldn't agree with that more. i think we have the tools to do it. but it will take a global coalition. it will take working closely with muslim americans here and muslims all over the world who don't believe in isis's terror any more than anybody else does. there's a game plan there that i think makes a lot of sense. very muscular elements but remembering at the same time, that we have to keep a clear connection to muslim-american communities and muslims all over the world. >> did he spell out well enough how to work with muslim communities in terms of fighting extremism? >> it was a beginning.

a basic speech. i think the point was clear. don't follow into the pattern of demagoguery and division. because we need the alliance on the ground in those communities to work. i was at a mosque on friday night here in new york city. and what did i see? hundreds of muslim-americans speaking about their appreciation for our police to keep them safe, their appreciation for this nation and their desire to be allies in this fight against terror. >> gun control, is the president right to make this san bernardino case an example of the need for more gun control? >> absolutely. these pieces go together. we have terrorists who on a no-fly list who are are not allowed on airplanes but they can walk into a gun shop and buy a gun legally inç america. the guns used in california were legally purchased which is why we need to divest in gun manufacturers. public sector pension funds all over the country, put investments into the very gun manufacturers who then market

assault weapons that are available on the open market. and terrorists and criminals and people with mental health problems buy them all the time. not just for acts of terror like we saw in san bernardino for these horrible campus shooting as well. it's time for public pension funds which ultimately are controlled by the people, to divest in those gun manufacturers and teach them a lesson using the power of the wallet. >> california has the strictest gun control laws in the nation. these terrorists in san bernardino had a bomb-making -- a pipe bomb-making factory in their house. how does gun control apply to the terror we saw in san bernardino? >> they used smith and wesson assault weapons. and other weapons. those, for example, are -- that's a public corporation that pension funds all over the country invest in, therefore, we're all a party to it in one way or another. as opposed to what i propose, get our money out of there.

we saw in the past where this worked, get our public money out of those companies. they should be making assault weapons for military and law enforcement only. let's go to the root of the problem. then you have a chance to deal with these issues much more effectively. law enforcement should not have to come up against terrorists with that kind of weaponry. it's as simple as that. >> can we talk about your beef, your ongoing squabble with donald trump? he has said unkind things about you. he tweets things about you being a horrible mayor. what is this based on? >> look, i don't care what he says about me. here's what i'm concerned about. he goes before a republican jewish group and uses age old stereotypes about jewish people out loud. he says muslims should be putçn a list.

we don't put people on a list, whole populations of people on a list in the united states of america and democracy. what he's saying is corrosive to our democratic values. it's dangerous. i'll call him out. i think more and more people are saying, you know what, it used to be entertaining to some people but it's not, it's dangerous. >> they were looking at the stereotypical things he said, we do not believe it was donald trump's intention to evoke anti-semitic stereotypes. he's made similar comments about spending his own money on the campaign and not asking for money from donors to many other up groos. why do i don't you think people are willing to give donald trump a pass on things you're not willing to give him a pass on. >> it was unmistakable, the coding in that language was unmistakable. it's not the first time he's done it. i think ultimately the american people will reject it. i think some people get worried about taking on a political

leader who seems to be -- thistthis t is clearly trying to divide, some of the analysis about how much language is us versus them, talking about fellow americans. do doesn't make us stronger or cohesive. it's time to say what donald trump is doing is doing the bidding of our enemies because there are enemies in particular, isis, wants to see the american people divided, for example, against the muslim-american community. that's the isis game plan. what trump is saying is falling right into that gam plain. >> thanks so much for coming into "new day." >> thank you. >> it's a pleasure. this was a big moment, president obama's speech. at least it was supposed to be. now it's getting scrutinized from every political corner. is it what we need to do to take down isis? do we know this strategy is

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so president obama using a rare oval office address trying to reassure americans about the war on isis. let's discuss this with texas congressman will herd, freshman member of the house. he's a former cia undercover officer serving ten years in the middle east and south asia. congressman, welcome to the show. thank you for being with us. based on what you heard last night does the president have it right? if not, how so? ç >> if his goal was to reassure the american people that we're going in the right direction, i don't think he accomplished that. one of the things i wish i would have -- he would have said last night is that i just got off the phone with the director of the cia and i told the cia to double the amount of human intelligence that's coming out of syria and iraq in the next 45 days. why is that important?

the more human intelligence we get, the more information we can send to our air force to continue bombing locations in that country. if you don't have the intelligence, you're not able to do that. another area i wish i would -- >> keep going. what's the other area? >> i think the other area he would have said is i just got off the phone with vladimir putin and told him to stop his shenanigans in syria. the russians are bombing locations in syria and iraq. yes, they have hit some locations of isis but they're also hitting locations of rebels that we're supporting. why does this matter? the only way we're going to really root out isis in syria and iraq is doing it with local partners. if we're allowing the russians to bomb the locations of some of these groups that we're trying to support to fight isis, they're not going to work with us. the other issue, you know, some of our sunni -- moderate sunni arab partners in the region that want to help with the fight are concerned that this administration is pivoting towards iran, based on the iran deal from earlier in the year.

these are all the factors that complicate a difficult task in that region. >> it seems there's a growing call, certainly from your party for more troops on the ground, that that will be the answer. do you agree? >> well, we already have troops on the ground and more are going. what the actual numbers should be i think we should leave that up to our combatant commanders. we have a model on what can be successful. if you look to afghanistan in 2001, in december of 2001 when the city of kandahar fell, kandahar is in southern afghanistan. it was the capital of the taliban. we killed two-thirds of al qaeda leadership, had pushed the taliban out of the country. there were 400 americans on the ground, 300 special forces, 100 cia. we were able to do this because the greatest air forceç the wod had ever seen was involved and we were working with local groups like the northern alliance and pashtun tribal

groups. that exists in syria and we need to be taking advantage of them. >> it doesn't sound like there's that much space between what you're saying the current strategy. you want human intelligence. you talk about local partners. it's something that the administration has been pressing to are along time. the gop makes it sound like the president is in the opposite direction of where he should be. doesn't sound like that from you. >> well, you know, words and action are two very different things. and we need to see this happening on the ground. and over the last year and a half, we haven't seen that. so i'm glad that the president are saying these things. now it needs to be translated into action on the ground. one area where he spoke about last night where i think you'll see cooperation, he intimated about the changes to the visa waiver program. this is something the house will be working on this week. we'll get a bid, i hope that signals his support of the legislation. why is this important? i was on a task force looking at

the threat of isis to the homeland. and one of the things that we found out is that our european participanter ins are not sharing nearly as much information as they could and should amongst our other european allies and with us. and these changes to the visa waiver program is going in for us and make sure european allies are doing everything they can to take information that we give them and check it against travelers. >> good. come back on the show when we have more meat on the bones of that visa bill so we can test it and get people understanding it. last question for you, congressman, the idea of what we're doing right now, and what the strategy is, and how it's articulated, do you believe you should turn to your brothers and sisters in congress. you're a freshman. you're new to the game. and say, if we're at war with isis, why don't we meet and dedate as our constitutional responsibility requires.

if we careç about the strategy why don't we debate about the use of force instead of just capitulating to the president. >> i don't think -- the president has all the cools that he needs in order to take this fight to isis. >> he says he needs more. he asked for broader use of force. you won't even debate it. >> i think part of it, his advisers were saying this was a political move to show that the country is behind them. i don't think anybody thinks that is not against isis. i'm a freshman. i've been up here in washington, d.c. for 11 months and i still haven't figured out why people are calling for something that's not going to change the situation on the ground. >> like what? >> calling for this debate and an additional -- when you have the tools already that you can use for this fight, use those tools that you already have. >> congressman, appreciate you being on the show.

look forward talking to you more about the visa waiver bill. appreciate it. war-wary americans have been against boots on the ground. that tide appears to be changing. is president obama open to a shift in his isis strategy? we'll ask a former top adviser to the president, next. used at the first sign.d an it penetrates deep and starts to work immediately to block the virus and protect healthy cells.. don't tough it out, knock it out, fast. abreva.

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we will prevail by being strong and smart, resilient and relentless and by drawing upon every aspect of american power. >> in a rare prime time address from the oval office, president obama reiterating his strategy to take down isis. did he go far enough? joining us is cnn's senior political commentator and former senior adviser to president obama, david axelrod. good morning, david. >> good morning, you guys. >> a prime time sunday night address from the oval office suggests a momentous announcement of some kind. the president's critics say that it was more of the same. did he go far enough? >> look, i thought it was a solid, well written explication of where we are and where we're going. you're right.

the test of the state of the union -- i'm sorry, the test of an oval office speech is generally an event so momentous that the country is anticipating it or one where you're announcing a major change of policy. that's not what it was. it's met with mixed commentary as a as a result. i thought he offer ed -- why hes offering reassurance to a country that needed reassurance. >> help us make sense of this. it seems like the president's move responsibly and politically should be if you think we should do something more, go debate it. der;páe the use of military fore instead of throwing it in my lap. debate whether or not to declare war. why is he not going that? because i'm not getting the significance of it or he doesn't want to turn offer the power. >> i think he did it last night. that was one thing he clearly did last night. i know you were asking your last

guest about that. what's peculiar to me is that the congress is often complaining about the president overreaching with his power or use of power. here's an opportunity to really delineate what the powers are of the president relative to this particular conflict. it would set a precedent for future conflicts and yet they don't want to do anything. you'd have to direct your further -- direct your questions to them as to why they're not acting on it. he certainly used the platform he had last night to make that case. >> he also used the platform last night to talk about gun control. you know, his critics say that this san bernardino case is not a good illustration of the need for gun control. this one is about terror. this isn't charleston, south carolina. this isn't newtown, connecticut. this is about people who had a pipe bomb factory in their house. if you, david, were his senior adviser, still, would you have told him to use this san

bernardino case about gun control? >> it feels like a leading question, alisyn. >> well -- >> i'll answer it anyway. >> thank you. i'm serious about the advice he's getting since so many people say -- >> you're right. they had a pipe bomb factory but they used guns, including assault weapons they were able to purchase in order to commit the crime that -- the act of terror that they did. it's commonsensical, he's right about this, if people are on a terror watch list and no-fly list and they can't get on an airplane because they're suspect, why would we sell them these weapons of war to go into civilian areas and wreak havoc as we saw here? i don't think that's unreasonable.ç honestly, the republican party on this one is really in a bad position. the roles are reversed here. it feels like they're trying to protect the rights of suspected

or potential terrorists more than they are in this case the safety of the american people. and really, it feels like they're more frightened of the nra than they are of isis. >> yet, there's something about it that makes it sound like you're off base, when you just get attacked by terrorists and you do everything you can to deny it's a terror attack, you slow off that part of it. it seems like you're off base. when you think it's about guns you could proscribe the use of assault rifles. doesn't look like it's going to happen. but when you talk about the no-fly list when this guy wasn't on a no-fly list, it seems like you're off base. get the point, ax? >> no. i think this was about an overall strategy to deal with terror, this speech. i think most americans are surprised to learn that you're on a list and can't get on an airplane because of suspected leanings or ties and yet you can

buy an assault weapon. i don't think any sensible person would say, that makes sense. to have it as part of a larger strategy, which it was last night, doesn't strike me as off base. >> right, except that the guy wasn't on the list. that's what we're hearing as push back n. this particular case, chris. the speech last night wasn't just about this particular incident. it was about how do you prevent future incidents. certainly keeping people who have potential terrorist ties from buying assault weapons is one way, given, in this day and age, that home grown terrorism is such a great threat. that certainly is something we should do. >> david axelrod, great to get your perspective. thank you for being here. >> thank you. what's your take? tweet us using #newdaycnn or post your thoughts on facebook.com/newday. how did a muslim husband and wife go from innocent couple to terrorist murderers? next, we'll get perspective from

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investigation, suggesting the killers were radicals and they were driven to extremes, in this case, the man being driven by the wife. what do friends of the couple say? it's nothing like what the reserved parents they knew to be were about. we have a different picture emergin emerging. let's get some sense of who these people were. joining us is the director of the islamic state riverside who coordinated a wedding session for the pair. and we have the man who prayed with the husband around lunchtime at a mosque. gentlemen, thank you for coming out and helping to further our understanding. when you hear about what happened here, when you heard, were you surprised, or did you have concerns about which way this man may have been headed? >> absolutely. it was devastating. it was shocking to know that this person who was we

well-manner well-mannered, respectrespectab good manners, transformed into this monster. we're trying to understand, as well, how could a regular, ordinary human being with good qualities, how could he become the person responsible for this tragedy? >> that's the concern, is how hidden was this transition. you did the wedding ceremony. we're confused on how the marriage worked. were they married before you met them? were they married in saudi arab arabia, or get married here? what was your observation of this man and woman? >> yeah, they get married in saudi arabia. they came over here and, shortly after they arrived, they did their reception in our center. actually, he came over and asked for my permission. i gave him the permission, that he can use our premises for that kind of party. we helped him to do it, and it

was a very nice evening. he was very much happy. it was attended by around, i believe, if i remember, 300 people. it went fine, you know. nothing wrong with it that evening. but i did not do the rituals for them because they did it in saud arab -- saudi arabia. >> did you have concerns about where their heads were? >> not at all, actually. to tell you the truth, first of all, i don't know her. i'd never met her. i know him very well. he was a well-mannered person, decent man, quiet, peaceful. very much kept to himself. probably, he doesn't get mixed up with people that easily but, still, he's a very good man, overall, you know. we never expected him to do something like this, you know, which is a horrendous crime.

myself, i never expected it to happen c happen, but it did happen. >> that's the point. he may have seemed one way, but he wasn't that way. he became a cold and calculated murderer, as did his wife. it's hard to understand how in the intimate settings of prayer and knowing him, conversing with him, there is no indication of where his head was. when you think back on it, did you see him trending a certain way? did it seem his wife was influencing him, or he was influencing himself to be different than the man you first met? something had to happen, right? >> right, absolutely. there has to be something that happened. i agree. as the doctor mentioned, we had no idea. we didn't see any change and stuff like that. now thinking about it, i mean, i see that, you know -- how the muslim community was unaware of this. it makes perfect sense to me. we muslims don't -- we don't know what a person does behind closed doors, in his private

life. we don't see his web history. we don't know what people he was listening to, if he was indockeindoc indock -- indoctrinated. we would have reached out to the officials if we had known, that this person is threatening to do something. until today, and i'm sure the doctor agrees, if we see someone who is a potential threat in our community, we will take it seriously and report it to the officials. >> i am not trying to put you on the defensive. this is about understanding how this went so wrong. >> right. >> we hear -- i'm wondering, was there discussion about politics that you saw a change over time? his father now says, reportedly, that this guy was embracing offal bof offal -- al baghdadi, the isis head. the wife is reporting

allegiance. did anything come up, in terms of politics, anger? >> absolutely not. we would see him frequently, two to four times a week. however, our visits and talks with him, our conversations, were very limited. maybe five minutes or soch. he was on lunch break. hi and bye. how is family? everything? there were no signs of him expressing a situation in which he was emotionally having some break through or something like that, or feeling that there's some policy, as far as american foreign policy or something, in question. i don't remember him making such comments. >> if i may add -- >> last question, doctor, there is a discussion about what to call this type of terror. there is criticism of the president, he won't call it islamic extremism, won't talk about islamic extreme terror. how do you feel about what to call this? >> well, oh, b --

>> oh, boy. of all times to lose them -- it's back. good. thank goodness for this. what's your answer, doctor? >> i said this has nothing to do with islam. islam calls for peace and peaceful co existence among all people. it cares about the human dignity and protects the life of the people. cares about the neighbors. a muslim should care about neighbors to his left and right and in front of him and behind him. so this is something that is very, very, you know, all yien islam. that's why we feel bad it happened, and we feel sorry that so many people who have been lost their lives during the tragedy, which we extend our condolences so the s to their f. we pray for them.

you know, it's kind of a messy situation. we're trying to find answers to it, and we are trying also, in our mosques, to get back to our communities and, also, try and focus on the strategies we focused after 9/11. when we discuss things with our youth at the mosque and try to focus and highlight the good nature of the human beings around us, you know, and the communities that are living with them. we need to be good to them, as they have been good to us. we need to be peaceful and caring, loving toward everyone. that's islam. that's the way we should preach islam and it needs to be in the minds of our youth. that's why our youth in the schools are not engaged. this is something we feel good about as muslim communities in

america. >> doctor -- >> can i add something quick, as well? >> please. >> i just want to mention that i would like to extend my -- i would like to commend the president of the united states for taking that stance. it really shows the balanced approach, compared to what other people are taking it and trying to make this -- divide the nation and say that all muslims are bad. i think this is what we need in this country. we are a great nation. we have been built -- we are built upon this freedom of religion and this is what makes this country so great. we're one nation under god, indivisible and, therefore, i believe this is a time to unite with the nation and put aside the differences and become one. show the world how we as a country are going to remain as one and stick to that american spirit. >> to be sure -- >> islam wants that, you know. >> appreciate you being on "new day." >> thank you. there's a lot of news, so let's get to it.

>> this was an act of terrorism. >> a challenge to congress to step up and debate how this war should be going. >> we will destroy isil. >> donald trump tweeting, is that all there is? >> i don't care what the president says, i care about action. >> we have to keep a clear connection to muslim american communities and muslims all over the world. >> in touch with people being investigated by the fbi for international terrorism. >> on facebook, a pledge of allegiance to isis leader al baghdadi. >> the central question for investigators is how this husband and wife became radicalized. >> the justice department will soon launch an investigation into how the force operates overall. >> why did it take 13 months when they had video cam footage of the incident. >> the accounts of other officers and the sergeant don't match the video. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira.

>> good morning. welcome to your new day, monday, december 7th, 8:00 in the east. critics are pouncing on president obama after his prime time oval office address. calling last week's massacre a terrorist attack, pledging to wipe out isis with a smart campai campaign. >> the president's opponents demanding to know what that campaign looks like, how it is different. this is a new cnn poll, revealing for the first time a majority of americans want ground troops committed to the fight. let's go live to the white house and bring in cnn's senior washington correspondent johns. >> the short address by the president, confirming the acts in san bernardino were acts of terror. however, offering no major new policy ideas to deal with the overarching problem. the president, in the process, firing up critics, who say the administration is not doing enough. >> the threat from terrorism is

real, but we will overcome it. >> reporter: president obama speaking passionately to millions in a rare oval office address late sunday. strongly condemning isis and calling wednesday's mass shooting in san bernardino a terrorist attack. >> it is clear that the two of them had gone down the dark path of radicalization. this was an act of terrorism. >> reporter: obama doubling down on his four-point strategy to defeat the terrorist group. >> the strategy we're using now, air strikes, special forces and working with local forces fighting to regain control of their own country, and won't require us sending a new generation of americans overseas to fight and die for another decade on foreign soil. >> reporter: at home, obama putting stronger screenings on people arriving in the u.s. without a visa, and insisting on more gun control. >> congress should act to make sure no one on a no fly list is able to buy a gun. >> what would you do as president to prevent the mass

shootings? >> reporter: the presidential hopefuls are calling insufficient to tackle the evolving threat. donald trump tweeting, is that all there is? retweeting, he needs to stop all visas, not look at them. jeb bush proposing his own, more aggressive strategy, and calling the fight against isis the war of our time. >> there's a real problem that muslims must confront without excuse. >> president obama ending his 13-minute speech with an appeal to muslims to root out extremist ideology, while also calling on americans to reject discrimination. >> muslim americans are our friends and our neighbors. our co-workers. sports heros. yes, they are our men and women in uniform who are willing to die in defense of our country. >> the marco rubio. >> the refusal to call this for what it is, a war on radical islam. not only did the president not

make things better tonight, i fear he may have made things worse. >> next week, the international approach to extremist groups is expected to get a closer look when the finance ministers of u.n. security council countries will meet in the united states to talk about cutting off the money. michaela? >> joe, meanwhile, will it require a change in u.s. military strategy? is the president willing to address his course? barbara starr is live at the pentagon. >> the president making it clear in the speech, there will be no massive deployment of u.s. ground troops, but there will be ground troops. make no mistake. the pentagon preparing to send special operations forces to iraq and into syria. their job will be to stage raids, to capture terrorists, to gather intelligence. the feeling now is that the most successful strategy forward is this essential fix. put some troops on the ground.

best way to find out what isis is up to is to put special operations with them. a lot of concern here. it will be very risky. if they are going to capture terrorists, they will be detaining them and interrogating them. that will be a fundamental change. the u.s. has not done that in some years. all of this comes though as there is a new report from the u.s. intelligence community, underscoring that isis is expanding its reach around the world. now, inspiring potential attacks in places as far away as bangladesh and indonesia. it's not the isis on the ground anymore in syria and iraq that is the seoul cole concern, this this global spread of people who are adherent, supporters of isis. >> barbara, those findings are different than what the president had been saying. thank you for all of that background. let's talk about this now. did the president's speech go

far enough last night? here is cnn chief political analyst gloria and the former advisers to presidents nixon, ford, reagan and clinton, david. p david, i'll start with you. do you think the president's speech went far enough last night? >> if you believe that we've been on the right course and we're winning, the president's speech was fine last night. if you believe we're on a course that's not winning, as hillary clinton argued yesterday, then i think the president's speech fell short. reassurances are not enough. i think people were looking for more concrete actions. we have the makings of a new policy, in the decision to send special forces in. the defense department under secretary ash carter is going to be on top of this. i thought the speech fell short in terms of providing any real sense and, indeed, a concrete, credible plan, to get us there. it's as if we're going to do a

few things. but you walk away with the impression last night, this president is not trying to win on his watch. he's leaving it to the next president to win. he's going to do some things to try to contain it, but it's the defense department report that said, right now, weir n're not containing it. >> gloria, that's highly disputed, the last part of the evaluation from david. all of the thinking is part of the logic, but they say they're making progress, just not fast enough. there are indications of it, they keep popping out the reports. how do you correct the optics with the reality of a real plan? the white house says they do have a plan. >> it's hugely difficult. this is a president -- and we saw it last night -- who is playing a long game against isis. he laid out what his strategy is. he's saying, we're not going to get back into war. he's playing a long game. what people are saying to him, including people who used to work for him and his own former secretary of state, that perhaps

we need to be more disruptive right now in this game. the president believes his strategy is working. there are people who are saying, look, maybe it's working to a degree in the long-term, but you also need to fix it right now. 81% of the american public believes that isis terrorists are here. 68% of americans believe you're not doing enough to combat isis. short of a ground war, what else can be done, rather than stay the course and tell the american public that, yes, you're passionate about it and, yes, you pledge to defeat isis and, yes, you call them a cult of death. i think when you give an address from the oval office, perhaps there needs to be something beyond kind of an explanation of what we're already doing, when the american public doesn't think it's working. >> to that point, gloria, you mentioned numbers, this is from

the latest cnn/orc poll, in terms of whether americans believe the president is on the right track. how is obama handling isis? 33% of americans, david, approve. 64% disapprove. david, if you were advising this president, what would you tell him to do in terms of an announcement of a new plan or devising a new plan? >> listen, it's been widely reported that after paris, he asked his advisers to come up with new options. one of the options they chose was the special forces, 200 people. that's good. it's not very much. he himself has been pressing for options. i would have advised him, why don't we come up with the option first, agree on what we're doing, come up with a plan that really is harder hitting, and then go on television. especially in prime time. if you don't have your options ready, you're not ready, then don't go on prime time, which raises expectations and puts you

in a position where that's the commander in chief normally makes strong declarations about what the united states will do and following through. don't go on the air in prime time and do that unless you have something that's hard-hitting and will convince people, we're going to turn the corner on this and win it. >> david, i'll ask something else about perspective. what should the president call the threat? do you think he should call on congress to meet and debate and take their responsibility back under the constitution? >> well, i think the congressional show is a sideshow, and i think putting blame on congress doesn't get you far. on the question of what they're going to authorize, the republicans and the democrats have different views of what to vote on. the republicans want to give him a lot of authority and democrats don't want to do that. that's what the hangup is here. i do believe that there are other things that could be done to make this more reassuring.

i do think that this is a form of radical muslim thinking, and we ought to call it as it is. at the same time, ask the muslim leaders in america. 99% of whom are terrific and really deserve all the respect of the president. bring them to the white house. ask them for help. we need help in these mosques. if there are people going off the tracks, spot somebody like that, help us find the farooks of the world before they strike. we need to integrate the muslim community into the broader american community. they are good people, and we have to find ways to do that. i think that takes extra steps. extra presidential leadership. >> go ahead, gloria. >> i think the president last night, in a way, was arguing for patienc patience. he didn't say, my strategy is working, but that's what he meant to say. i think you have an american public right now that is

anxious, that is not patient, and that hasn't been asked to do anything either on its own, to sort of be vigilant, you know, keep on the lookout, et cetera. the president is in the middle of a huge political debate here in this country. the fault line is our own safety and our own security. he needs to convince the american public that, short of doing all the things that republican presidential candidates are talking about which he tis agrdisagrees, he w keeping americans safer and that we all have a part to play in this. i'm not so sure if we do a poll today, for later this week, that he will have succeeded in that. >> gloria and david, thanks so much. great to get your perspectives. thank you. >> thank you. >> let's get to michaela. is there any way to stop lone wolf terror attacks before they strike? is there even a strategy to track them? we're going to ask our experts

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we'll be talking about san bernardino and getting the tl s threat out of the uk. let's bring in our former cia official. cnn terror analyst.

what have you heard about the uk? >> authorities have revealed that the knife attacker on saturday night, who stabbed a member of the public at a british tube stop, it appears he was actually trying to behead his victim. he was kicking him, punching him, wrestling him to the ground. had a knife and was using a sawing motion on his neck when the police intervened. they also found a lot of pro-isis propaganda on his phone. it suggests that this was an isis-inspired attack that we saw play out here in london over the weekend. of course, a big difference between that attack in the united states, in san bernardino, where the perpetrators had guns, access to very powerful guns, much more

difficult to get access to those guns in the united kingdom. this is a point the president was making, that in the united states, it's easier for the terrorists to gain hold of very, very powerful weapons. >> right. >> if this guy had had a gun, automatic weapon in the uk, he could have killed 20 people potentially. >> understood. we have the issue of the means. more tricky is the issue to what to do about the motivation. i am the world's fear of this, lone wolf, one offs, inspired, radicalized, however they arrive at the crazy, they act. you can't stop it and can't keep us safe. that's the fear. >> that's right. you can't stop it because we say it's illegal to be a member of isis and provide support. the europeans are ahead in terms of saying, is it illegal to speak about them? we have a question in this country, a free speech country, that says, should we tell people, you can't tweet pro support isis on twitter,

facebook? there are questions about travel. >> would that stop it? >> that's going to stop some of the messages. it's also going to expose people who are retweeting messages from isis supporters. we have some of the most extensive isis support in the world here in the country. >> how do you find out what's going on in someone's mind? how do you police their activities? how do we know it works? >> we don't live in a police state so there is a limit. >> if we did, is there any evidence that censoring works? when these things happen, don't talk about it. silence it. that'll squash any of the copycat, novelty. is there any proof it would help? >> if you were able to stop the isis propaganda, i'm sure it would make impact. the propaganda the influencing

people. isis telling american followers it is their religious duty to carry out these kind of attacks. sure, it would make a difference, but it's not going to happen. we live in this society, as we do, and want to carry on living in the society as we do. this is going to be a huge challenge for the fbi, for european counter terrorism services moving forward. i speak to european officials. they know some of the people came back from syria. they can't always prove it. they can't always charge people so there are cases of people coming back to countries like belgium or france. they know through the intelligence they've been through syria, but the evidence they can show is they've been to turkey. they can't actually charge them. that's obviously a big problem. it's just a function of the kind of societies we live in. rule of law, evidence and that kind of thing, chris. >> we were talking before the show about a lot of things we can't discuss on television. one of the things is i said, if we're at war, why aren't they debating it in congress? you said, who said we're at war?

not only is it not legally in that place, you say it's not operatively in that place. >> number one, war is the use of all instruments of national power. diplomacy, budget, military. the military isn't deployed for war. the budget isn't deployed for war. this will irritate 99% of the american population. the activities of isis in the united states are not a predicate for war. worry about. we've had dozens of people killed in gang violence in the last two weeks. if your metric is how many americans die by groups radicalized, worry about what goes on in america's inner cities because they far outstrip anything we'll see from isis.

>> you have a group galvanized in its wanting to kill americans. these other groups, there are things that lead to homicidhomi. >> where's the money and where is the people? if you're managing a counter terrorism program that dwarves some of what you might do against violent crime, i don't understand why we value an innocent who is killed in a terror attack than a kid killed in a gang attack. >> interesting question. part of the answer revealed in the information out of the uk. the man was screaming about isis. the people of san bernardino are trying to come to grips are last week's terror attack. up next, we'll have a conversation with a woman who worked in the office where the

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new details from law enforcement reveal the male san bernardino shooter looked into contacting terrorist groups overseas and supported isis ideology. those who knew him and worked with him still cannot believe it. joining us now is jenny, who worked at the san bernardino county health department for 25 years. she was friends with several of the victims. she also knew the terrorist who was responsible. she joins us this morning, along with her husband, ray. thank you so much, jenny and ray, for being here. jenny, you worked there as a receptionist for 25 years. you knew most, if not all, of these people. >> yes. >> it's hard to sort of get our minds around the magnitude of the loss for you. >> yeah.

it is very devastating. it's hard not to think of all of them, where they should be, in their normal lives as i remember them. >> ray, i know when all of this was happening, you were searching -- when you started hearing the news reports, you started trying to find and get ahold of je inni. tell us about those moments. >> my neighbor called and said there was a shooting. i turned on the television. realized where it was at. i called my wife to see if they were okay or on lockdown. she didn't get back to me right away, but when she called back, she told me they were safe where they were at. we were able to connect a couple of hours later. >> jenni -- >> after they were released from lockdown. >> thank goodness. jenni, you knew the gunman. you had interacted with syed

farook. >> yes. >> can you tell us what he was like and what your interactions were like with him? >> our interactions were always pleasant. i knew him from when he came on board. i worked with him often, side by side as the receptionist and, you know, taking messages and, you know, different aspects that would involve his inspections and such. he was always pleasant, always had a smile. always very courteous. said, i don't want to interrupt you, but can you help me with this, that type of thing. he was pleasant to work with. >> did he say anything about his marriage or about his wife? >> that happened after i left

the department. i left a year and a half ago. so, no, i didn't have any connection with him in regard to that. >> you had no indication -- correct me if i'm wrong -- that he had changed or somehow become extreme? >> no, i didn't. i think i had enough connections still with most of the staff in that office, that if anyone had noticed anything, they would have told me. >> as we've said, you were friends close to some of the victims. i mean, just to go through three. there was mike wetzel, 37 years old. father of six children. left behind a wife and the children. i mean, every single one of these stories we're seeing on the screen here is heartbreaking in its own right. you were friends with robert adams, 40 years old. married, had a 20 month old daughter. you were friends with -- there's a picture of him and his

beautiful baby and his smile. you were friends with nick louse thalasinos. he's gotten a lot of attention. this gentleman because it has been reported he had some possibly heated exchanges in the office about religion. what was your experience about that? >> if it's okay, i'll let ray answer that. >> go ahead, ray. >> i don't think nick would have had those conversations in the office. nick was a very professional man. he would talk about his religion if you were interested in hearing about it. he didn't preach to you. when he was at work, he was extremely professional in what he did, all the aspects of his job. for people to make him out to be an extremist, these people are terribly wrong. they can't judge the man because they didn't know him. >> yes. one of the most remarkable things about where you both

worked is how multi-cultural it appears to have been. at this holiday party, there were christians, jews, muslims. there were hispanics, whites, blacks. you, in particular, i mean, it's been called like almost a little united nations, where you worked. somehow, jenni, until then, it seemed as though everyone melded. >> definitely. i don't think anyone had any clashes. >> how do you explain, if you can, jenni, what happened with farook? >> i can't. i don't think anyone, unless they were in his inner circle, that were part of all of this, can answer that question. it just, somehow, he started, i

don't know, getting information that he was told that this is the way he was supposed to start behaving and thinking. this was his mission, i guess. it just happened to be an opportunity that came up, and he took it. >> jenni, the county offices opened today for the first time since the attacks. will you be going back to work? >> no, i'm not. i'm going to be staying available for my friends and the survivors that were families. we're a tight-knit group, so we are meeting up every day. we have projects that we're working on for the families and such. i'm going to be continuing with that. >> that sounds like the right thing to do. jenni and ray kosse, thank you

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congress should take right away. to begin with, congress should act to make sure no one on a no fly list is able to buy a gun. who could possibly be the argument for allowing a terror suspect to buy a semiautomatic weapon? this is a matter of national

security. >> that was president obama calling on congress to take action to keep guns out of the hands of terrorists, and reiterating his strategy to fight isis. let's bring in senator rand paul of kentucky, who is running for president. he joins us now. thank you so much for being here. >> good morning. >> great to see you. let's talk about everything the president talked about last night. let's start there. let's start there because that's one that seems as though it should be easy to fix. why not close the loophole that allows suspects on the fbi's no fly list to buy guns? >> i think there probability is -- probably a way to do it. i'll put it this way, if we could get rid of the freedom of the press, would you want to do it because it was on the no list, or you no longer get the amendment privilege? nobody wants somebody who is a terrorist to have a gun, myself

included. there has to be a process. one of the reasons is ted kennedy was on the watch list. so was cat stevens. it was a mistake. would you want to take away their conscientitutional rightr? there needs to be something after the fact. there was a republican alternative that had more due process. there is a middle ground if the other side wants to work with us on this. >> i hear you. fix the watch list. that's an issue of fixing the watch list. so as not to have ted kennedy on it. not to somehow let terrorists get their hands on guns. >> it's both. i don't think we should take away your first amendment right to have freedom to express yourself in the media without some kind of due process. i'd be worried about saying, we're goin g to have a watch lit of journalists who are inappropriate on tv, and we'll take away their first amendment rights. you need a constitutional process. i'm all for keeping guns out of the hands of terrorists.

you can't have a list. in the fight against terrorism, we set up these centers called fusion centers. some of the people on the list to watch were people who were from the constitution party. people pro life. people who were supporters of my dad. i think you have to be careful about saying, it's just a list. we'll gather everyone on the list. there has to be constitutional rights. the president mistakes the real problem. it's who is being let into the country. we have to have a pause on immigration. >> this is a case where the gunman was born in america. he was american. >> his wife came here recently, and there's many arguing that she was the one that radicalized things. even the president last night in his speech, if you look at the speech, admitted there wasn't enough scrutiny on her. if you look at -- we have 150,000 students here from the middle east. do we know where they are? are they in school? do we know they haven't

overstayed their visas? we have to really look hard at what we're doing now before we make the hay stack bigger. before we admit millions of new people into the country. we have to push pause and have a moratorium on new immigration from the middle east. it is a danger to us. making this about gun control, i think, mistakes the real danger, and that is people coming to attack us. >> when you say a moratorium on immigration from the middle east, you mean not allow anyone in? in other words, it sounds like what you're saying is you don't trust our department of homeland security and other officials to actually do a proper vetting process. >> right. what we do is in our bill, we have a couple different items. once these are achieved, we would try to get back to some sort of normalcy. we would have 100% entry and exit. we know 100% of the time who comes and when they leave. we have 11 million people here illegally, and 40% are said to have overstayed their visas. if we can't get a grip on who is

overstaying their visas and not obeying the system, that is a danger to us. it's also a danger from the visa waiver countries. the president mentioned this, also, but what i'm saying is, anybody coming from germany, france, england, they need to come through global entry. you do a background check. once you have the check, people would come in easily and quickly. known travelers would. if you're an unknown traveler, it should take a while. that's how we defend our country. this is going to be going on for a long time. we'll have the detabate a long time. we have to defend our bonder. >> one of the theories is that he was radicalized by his wife. another theory is that he was self-radicalized by online readings and communications. that can happen. what's the answer? >> i think no easy answer, unless you're some of the authoritarians who want to ban reading. there isn't an easy answer there. the one thing we can control is immigration. the other thing that we can do is, i think, we can decide

whether or not we're wanting to go back to another war in the middle east. i don't think american sons and daughters need to go back into the middle east. i'm for letting the boots on the ground be arab boots on the ground. >> one of your fellow republicans running for president, governor chris christie, said now is no time to curtail the nsa surveillance program. i'll play what he said. >> so wrong for congress and the president to pull back on our surveillance capability with the nsa. so wrong to demoralize our intelligence community with the report they issued the end of last year. the fact is, we need to strengthen our intelligence, law enforcement community and just work as hard as we can to try to intercept this. >> senator, why not use every tool at our disposal, is his point. >> there will always be authoritarians like christie who want you to give up liberty for a false sense of security.

the court below the supreme court ruled this program to be illegal. two biparts soisan commissions we haven't stopped terror attackstitutional question, can you allow the collection of everyone's data, private information, without a warrant. the fourth amendment says you have to put a name on the warrant, have suspicion and talk to a judge. when you want to gather every american's information, that's gone too far. somebody has to say, we have to defend the bill of rights, and that includes the fourth amendment. >> senator rand paul, we appreciate getting your perspective on "new day." >> thank you. >> thanks so much for being here, and thanks so much to all of you for watching us today. newsroom with pamela brown will begin after this very short break. see you tomorrow. ♪

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good morning. i'm pamela brown in for carol costello. thank you for being here with me on this monday. the u.s. will prevail and beat the evolving threat of terrorism. that message from president obama during a rare prime time address from the oval office.

his goal, to try to ease fears after the isis-inspired killing spree in san bernardino. the president's speech isn't quieting his critics. many are blasting him for not going far enough. the president calling the california rampage, quote, an act of terror, and saying the shooters embraced a perverted form of islam. he warns that engaging in a ground war would be what the terrorist group wants. >> we should not be drawn once more into a long and costly ground war in iraq or syria. that's what groups like isil want. they know they can't defeat us on the battlefield. isil fighters were part of the insurgency we faced in iraq. they also know if we occupy foreign lands, they can maintain insurgencies for years. >> the president also urging americans not to discriminate and calling on the muslim community to do more to help root out