thanks so much for joining us. be sure to set your dvr to record "outfront" to watch the show at any time. see you tomorrow night. a.c. 360 starts right now. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin with donald trump's proposal for keeping any and all members of the muslim faith out of the country. he's at a pearl harbor rally near charleston, south carolina and unveiled the plan a few hours ago, less than 24 hours since president obama spoke from the oval office warning against the fight against isis being a war against american islam. that the president said is what isis wants. as we said, the campaign rolled out the plan this afternoon and the candidate read from the press release tonight. >> donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shut down of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can

figure out what the hell is going on. [ cheers ] >> we have no choice. we have no choice. >> again, this comes barely a day after the president spoke telling americans freedom is more powerful than fear and follows the isis inspired mass shooting in san bernardino. what could be a key development in the investigation and randi kaye with the trump campaign in south carolina. >> reporter: as supporters waited in line to hear donald trump speak tonight in south carolina, words started to spread about his latest idea, banning all muslims from entering the u.s. >> donald trump is saying muslims should not be allowed to enter this country until the u.s. figures out what is going on. do you agree with that? >> yes, i do. >> reporter: why? >> i don't want them here. who knows what they are going to bring into the country, bombs, isis, what? they need to go. >> reporter: he's not the only

supporter backing trump's call for a total and complete shut down of muslims entering the u.s. in fact, no one here we spoke with had a problem with the plan. >> that's a very prudent idea and i think he's done due diligence when he makes that statement. we have to protect our american citizens first and the vetting process and whole program lacks integrity. >> reporter: that's not true. in fact, the vetting process run through multiple agencies is vigorous. some folks saying not all muslims are bad when pressed but say they don't want to take chances, even if some are coming to terms with it slowly. >> i think that they should go through screening. i mean, extensive screening. i mean, we just let terrorists into this country that did the california shooting. >> reporter: he's not saying screening, he's saying no muslim should be allowed to enter the country right now. do you agree, yes or no, it's that simple. >> yes. >> reporter: trump's harsh words for isis energized his

supporters. on fox recently, mr. trump shared part of his plan for how he would bring down isis including targeting terrorists families. >> you have to wipe out their homes where they came from and absolutely wipe them out. that's the only way to stop terrorism. >> reporter: are you in forever of bombing terrorists homes? >> absolutely. absolute absolutely. people will continue to reproduce and they will raise children in their believes. somebody needs to go in there and take control. it's going ramped and i'm worried about america and our safety. they are getting in. they need to be stopped. >> reporter: at a november rally, trump had some of his strongest words yet. >> we got to go and knock the shit out of these people. >> reporter: why do you think he's the guy to take on isis? >> he's got the guts to take it on and build a coalition to take them on, as well. >> randi joins us from outside the rally.

was anyone you spoke with at all surprised by trump's plan to ban all muslims from the united states? >> reporter: well, anderson, as we were going down the line of supporters, we were the one telling them what trump said, what his new idea was in the press release and most of them probably expected to hear that from donald trump, that's the feeling we got but there was one guy that wouldn't back down. i think he thought we were spreading misinformation and demad demanded to know our source and kept following us and finally we showed him the press release the trump campaign put out and he finally backed down. i think he was very surprised by what donald trump put out today and one other note, anderson, talking to the people, i made a point he doesn't have political experience and never run a country during wartime or taken a country to war and they said he's the guy to take out isis and wipe out isis. they don't care how, they believe he can do it and he's the man for the job, anderson.

>> randi, thank you. jeb bush calls it quote unhinged. chris christie says it's a ridiculous position, his words and carly fiorina calls it dangerous over reaction and ben carson thinks all foreign visitors should be registered and monitored and temporarily blocking visitors and immigrants from nations with known radical immigrants and to ted cruz adding trump's proposal is not his policy, perspective from maggie haberman, presidential core sprespondent for "the new times" and van is a former senior advisor to president obama. maggie, i mean, obviously, donald trump said controversial things before, things people said look that's beyond the pail. this is ridiculous. opponents, the words they are using they used for similar things in the past before. is this different? >> if you're a trump supporter

and stuck with him as reported from south carolina a second ago, you're not going to see people say this is the moment where it's gone too far. you have people who are genui genuinely scared and people that are worried after san bernardino and afraid that the president is not addressing it forcefully enough, however, what trump is proposal is a constitutionality and not sure how it would work. a spokesperson said today this would include muslim americans abroad and they wouldn't be able to come back and trump said later on that some people serving in the military would be able to come home. it's not clear how this would even function. this is a different level than what we have heard from him before. if you remember, there was that uproar when he voiced support for some kind of a registry of muslims in the united states, he wouldn't quite disown it. this is getting within that ballpark. >> jeffrey, lindsey graham says it's a death sentence for interpreters and others working

to help americans overseas. has trump gone too far? is this a good idea? >> anderson, i have to say i am just amazed there is lots of president for this. in world war ii within days of pearl harbor, franklin roosevelt revoked the nationalization process for german, italian and japanese immigrants in this country. they were called, using the authority from the -- if i can look at this, the alien enemies act of 1798 and issued three executive orders. it gave the government of the united states the right to detain and to label all of these people as enemy aliens. they were not permitted to travel beyond five miles from their home. they could not have cameras. they could not have short-wave radios. there were a lot of restrictions put on these people -- >> are you suggesting like japanese camps? >> no, no, no, this was totally different than that and that certainly i think was wrong.

no, this was totally different than this. this had nothing to do with the internment camp issue that came later and all i'm suggesting, there is a lot of president and he's saying let's be cautious and use some common sense -- >> that's not all he's saying. >> van, go ahead? >> that's not all he's saying. first of all, the fact you have to appeal to one of the most shameful moments in american history is speaking for itself. i never, anderson, thought i would ever say this -- >> whoa i didn't say that. >> i never thought i would say i miss george w. bush. george w. bush six days after 9/11 went to a mosque. he put his arms around muslims and said in the worst moment, 3,000 americans killed, american icons falling to the ground, firefighters' risking their lives and lungs to pull out body parts. he said this is not about attacking all muslims. six days after 9/11.

i miss george w. bush and that leadership. this is the most despicable terrifying hate mongering from a national political figure. the number -- >> so you're saying, van -- >> the number one recruiter for isis is donald trump. they might as well pay him to do what he's do. he's wrong for it and you're wrong to defend it. >> jeffrey, do you not have concerns this essentially declaring war against islam? which is a war against billions and billions of people. >> no, it's radical, it's radical islam. >> right but jeffrey, it's painting with a very broad brush all muslims and not trying to distinguish radical islam from computer programmers that will work in silicon valley. >> what he's suggesting is we have a pause to have a better understanding what is going on and franklin roosevelt did some version of this. this is very old stuff and has nothing to do with japanese

american interment camps. >> how long -- >> not moral. >> to stop this until we figure out what is going on, what does that mean? >> it's a completely unworkable fear tactic but what it does is this is exactly what isis wants. isis and trump are now playing off of each other. what isis wants is for all americans to turn against all muslims so they can become -- that's exactly what you do when you say because some white shooters did something all white people can't go someplace. that would be horrible. or if some black person or jewish person did something. >> this was done, van -- >> that's wrong. that's wrong. >> jeffrey, you keep -- >> i know, but jeffrey you keep going back to 1940s wartime rather than addressing the realities of this process itself. i understand you're saying -- >> this is war.

we are in a war. we are in a war. there are people, president obama being one who apparently don't want to acknowledge it but we are war. we have 14 dead americans. [ overlapping speakers ] >> jeffrey, aren't we also fighting wars in afghanistan and in iraq to actually support muslim dominated regimes? i mean, afghanistan -- >> sure. >> -- iraq -- >> to say this country -- to say no muslim s can come into this country is painting it with a broad brush. >> until we understand how this works, we have dead people in america, dead in a conference room. we're in a war here. all we're saying -- >> let me tell you where you're right and wrong. you're right we're in a war. if what you do while you try to prosecute a war actually recruits thousands and tens and hundreds of thousands of people

to be against you, that is a dumb way to fight a war. that's not true. right now -- >> van, van -- >> you have a micro small amount of muslims that joined a death cult. i don't believe you're supporting the worst possible strategy to actually increase our enemy -- >> let's take a pause on this conversation. >> that's like saying martin luter king lead the marches to increase the number of white segregati segregationest. that's crazy. >> let's pause and take a break and continue the discussion and continue it also we'll have late news in the san bernardino investigation and estimate how far back these two ties to radical islamists goes and cameras capturing the attack on the london under ground. a lot of british muslims are condemning the assault.

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welcome back. we're talking about donald trump's plan for blocking all must lulims until we figure outt the hell is going on saying this idea goes against everything we

stand for and believe in dan huet says and jeffrey lord, trump supporter and van jones. maggie, you co-authored a look recently, a report for "the new york times" looking at every public speech trump made during this campaign. how is what he's saying about not allowing all muslims in or pause line up with other things he said? >> we looked at a week and 95,000 words over the course of a week and analyzed speech patterns and things that stood out and certain lines of attack, ways in which he appeals to his crowd but there were clear elements for people who have studied a demagoguery seemed familiar to people like george wallace for instance. he talks about isis chopping people's head off in literally almost every single speech and several interviews and repeatedly says something really bad is going on out there. we don't know what is going on. he uses them versus them

repeatedly. he talked about we didn't have the guns, they had the guns and does it repeatedly. in terms of this claim that he just -- this call he just made about muslim banning travel into the u.s. or immigrants, this is fitting with where he has been going since the paris attacks. there was a moment his rhetoric got darker right after ben carson took the lead in a poll over him in iowa, excuse me, and he made it very, very strong criticism of dr. ben carson, mocked him on stage in iowa and questioned whether people were dumb for quoting him and the next day was the paris attack and since then he's been making increasingly hasher statements. >> jeffrey, i think he actually said something else about his new proposal tonight. so let's just quickly play that. >> we're going to have to figure it out. we have to figure it out.

we can't live like this. it's going to get worse and worse. you're going to have more world trade centers. it's going to get worse and worse. we can be politically correct and we can be stupid. it's going to get worse and worse. >> interesting to hear dick cheney say this goes against everything we stand for and believe in and another wrote of trump, quote, it seems fair to say he's closer to the protoe fashion zone on the political spectrum, his words, not mine, that's ross -- >> right, right, right. >> what do you make of this response from, you know, conservatives from dick cheney and of usually against most of the people trump is running against? >> i have a lot of respect for vice president cheney. this kind of talk goes on a lot. >> but when he says this goes against everything we believe in, everything as a country stand for. >> with all due respect to the vice president, franklin roosevelt did these kinds of

things, did more than what donald trump is talking about. there were like 600,000 italians. italian-born residents in the united states -- >> jeffrey, in the 40s black people -- >> jeffrey in the '40s black people didn't have the same rights at white people. going back to the 40s isn't the best argument you can make. >> we were at war with italy. we were at war with -- >> anderson, i used to actually -- i'm going to admit. i used to actually somewhat enjoy trump doing stuff like this because i was in my partisan bubble like this is great. it's destroying the republican brand. this has become dangerous for republicans and america. when you have someone of his standing, he's probably now one of the most famous americans in the world, he may be next to obama, the most famous, certainly the most covered american in the world saying stuff like this, this endangers

the country. the one thing we have over isis is we actually have believes and principals and values that inspired the world. to flush those down the toilet because a death cult sent people to do horrible things is so irresponsible and dangerous because you have must lullims o bubble that don't know whether isis is telling the truth, that the west is trying to destroy them or not. the best recruiting agent for isis is named donald j. trump. they should pay him to do this. i'll tell you we are going to regret giving this guy this kind of a megaphone, this microphone to put this kind of hatred in the public air waves. >> this is hysteria. >> he's hysterical. >> van -- >> you don't know -- >> let him talk. >> by your logic, van, there should have been no self rights movement because that would just encourage white segregation. that is despicable. >> oh my god. >> first of all, when you are

talking about the civil rights movement, i might know about that, sir and that movement was saying more people should be seen as human. we should have more trust and more love. what donald trump is saying is the of and it reverse. challenge them. dick cheney is saying challenge them but in a smart way and don't paint with a broad brush innocent people, a billion innocent people -- >> so in other words we should take down the memorial to franklin roosevelt? >> listen -- >> so you want to remove -- >> he was not perfect and what you're describing are things -- >> ahhhh -- >> he was in friend of civil rights. >> ah, now we're getting somewhere. keep going. >> you have to go through the looking glass here. he was not perfect and no friend of civil rights but at the end of the day, the train he put this

entournament of the japanese -- >> we agree. >> maggie, do you think this actually hurts donald trump or is this just like every other statement he's made for his supporters, just the poll numbers go up? >> i think he is making this comment at a moment of extreme anxiety among americans about terrorism and that is colliding with economic anxiety and fueling him. i don't think this will sink him. i'll be interested to see how conservative radio hosts react to this in the next couple days because messing around with the constitutional potentially is not usually something that holds a lot of appeal. i think this makes it harder for trump to grow his base of support. i think that has always been the case. the polls are all over the place in terms of where he is. he held at an average about steady. it's within the margin of error and the question is whether he can get more support and right now, i don't see this as an avenue towards that. >> good discussion. appreciate you-all being here. details when exactly the female terrorists in san

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we got more breaking news, insight into how a young couple became husband and wife mass killers. terrorists. road to radical jihad. here is a photo from a year and a half ago. late tonight we learned how much further back investigators believe radicalization, especially her radicalization began and that's far from the only development tonight. pamela brown joins us with that. the fbi today saying this couple was radicalized quite sometime ago. you actually have now information on that. what have you been told by sources? >> that's right. it's become ready apparent to investigators that isis wasn't the only terrorist group influencing and inspiring this couple because investigators believe that tashfeen malik and possibly her husband syed farook were radicalized at least two years ago before she came to the u.s. on that fiancee visa so

they belobelieve she was radicalized before the cale fipe of june of 2014. it's difficult to pinpoint when it began from what they have gathered, it's clear this couple was influenced by more than just one terrorist group. it seems at this point and that's why officials keep saying this is a complicated investigation. also, raises concerns anderson, how was she able to get in the u.s. on that fiancee visa? something missed along the way? the state department reviewing the program. >> both of them actually practiced, i understand, for the attack, dry runs at a gun range, target practice. >> that's right, the fbi talking saying as recently as a few days before the attack, anderson, they went to the driving range to practice and from sources i've been speaking with, they were really surprised by what a good shot she had. there is evidence of her taking

shots at officers during the chase and they were saying that clearly she was proficient, clearly she had some level of training. now, was it just from going to the gun range? it could just be that. they don't know yet but clearly, both had been planning this. both had been getting some level of training and going to the shooting range and now these shooting ranges handed over surveillance tapes and logs to the fbi. >> there sin formatiis informat her time as a student in pakistan. >> she got a degree in pharmacy in pakistan and the university was in an area where there was a fair amount of extremist activity, extremist ties. at one point after she left the university began teaming up with university officials and monitoring the halls, putting surveillance in there because they were concerned that people were being recruited at the universities there. anderson? >> pam brown, appreciate the update. joining us now bob baer and fbi

special agent tim clemnte. there sin formation, the fact she may have been radicalized years before coming to the u.s. how hard does that make it for the u.s. to pinpoint someone like her? are there sufficient procedures in place to identify someone like her radicalized in the visa program because supposedly there is a background check in this thing. >> yeah, anderson, i'm not so sure how deep that background check can go coming from a third world country. it's not like the da tabases lie the west we can look at immigration and nationalization service for decades kept great records on people that come into the country and contacts but coming from outside the country, we don't have a deep pool to dig from. from a person like this coming from a radicalized area or period of time that many, many radicals were coming from, maybe we need to look a little more

closely geographically because she's from there and also from a particular mosque where the university where she was trained. all of these should be clues how to look more closely at people and i don't think we do that in this process. >> bob, pakistan has extensive intelligence service and agencies. what's the cooperation like between the u.s. and the pakistan intelligence? >> anderson, it's virtually zero. i have never seen the pakistanis or saudis give us any list of radicalized citizens. if she had been radicalized at a university and joined a group there, the chances of the pakistanis giving us that information is zero. not to the state department or cia or fbi. most of those groups at the pakistanis train are used against india but once they are trained, they can go anywhere and have no control.

i'm not saying p ing pakistanisn any way trained but have a radicalized set of people there, call them whatever you want, and there is no way for the state department when they issue a k visa to find that out. they don't end up on the system and nothing state can do about it if pakistanis will cooperate. >> i have to raise the question about syrian refugees and migrants coming into europe and some come to the u.s. how different is that background check? >> same thing. we don't know. a lot of their ids are gone, stolen, passports stolen. a country without a central government, collapsed state. there is no way to check them. the fbi can run all the records they want in western europe and the united states and do a thorough job by accounting for people coming out of syria, there is no way to do it. i've worked visa lines before and you just don't know what you're dealing with. >> tim, the fbi said they are

unsure if either he or she met with isis leaders. you actually say that doesn't matter. isis is much more lenient who joins and carries out the attacks than what some predecessors have been, right? >> al qaeda was more of a top down organization and who could decide the attacks but as we've seen with isis, abby backu bak bag dy back er al baghdad -- abby backer u bak u al-baghdadi and someone pledges their faith and alliance to him that would make them an applicant to be part of isis and isis generally when they see the acts done will recognize them. >> what about the role of women? you've said, i believe, that isis thinks women are the perfect camouflage. explain what you mean by that. >> well, what i mean by that is in this circumstance, if you had the 9/11 hijackers were males

and proximate same age group as farook in this case but a guy moving around with a wife and a child is much more invisible in our culture and in the west than three or four young males of that age today because we're in the post 9/11 world so i think she provides a great deal of camouflage for him and if whether she's the instigator as far as radicalization or not, she and that baby are two things that make them almost invisible. >> bob, you believe and i think you just said before in passing, you believe she was trained abroad in some capacity? >> yeah, like tim, i've spent a lot of time around weapons and i've never seen anybody, you know, a first-time, somebody in combat not panic. i mean, she -- you know, she was probably had some sort of commando training. you just don't take on 21, 22 cops with automatic weapons, shoot back at them and, you know, reload and the rest of it unless it's more than just a

range. i'm convinced of that and everybody else spends a lot of time around military, around guns have told me the same thing and agree. this woman or maybe both of them had some sort of training. >> bob baer and tim, thank you both. just ahead, president obama laying out his strategy for defeating isis in a rare oval office speech or did not announce any new tactics and critics say the current  strategies aren't working. are they right? we'll look at that. here at td ameritrade, they love innovating. and apparently, they also love stickers. what's up with these things, victor? we decided to give ourselves stickers for each feature we release. we read about 10,000 suggestions a week to create features that as traders we'd want to use, like social signals, a tool that uses social media to help with research. 10,000 suggestions. who reads all those? he does. for all the confidence you need. td ameritrade. you got this.

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as we reported at the top of the broadcast, donald trump said he would block all muslim travel into the united states. the front run ser blaner is blae strategy. the speech meant to reassure americans in the wake of san bernardino mass shootings. president obama spent much of the 14-minute prime time address outlining what the u.s. is doing and will continue to do to defeat isis. >> first, our military will continue to hunt down terrorist plotters in any country where it is necessary in iraq and syria and air strikes are taking out isil leaders, heavy weapons, oil

tankers, infrastructure and since the attacks in paris our closest allies including france, germany and united kingdom have ramped up their contribution to accelerate our effort to destroy isil. second, we will continue to provide training and equipment to tens of thousands of iraqi and syrian forces fighting isil on the ground so that we take away their safe havens. in both countries we're deploying special operations forces to accelerate the offensive. >> president obama did not announce any new strategies for fighting isis and critics say that's a big problem, the current game plan isn't working. isis is growing ranks stepping up attacks, a lot to talk about with mark hurtling and christiane amanpour. you quoted a counter tes ris m official that said america is doing it half asked and can't do it half asked.

>> a lot of people are saying there is a lot of catch up going on but you can no longer talk about in ground troops because there are ground troops. spent a special expedition reforce and haven't all got there but that debate is being taken over by reality. you got the majority of the american people for the first time in a cnn poll saying send group troops and leaders in paris for instance who i have spoken to saying count terrorism officials and deradicalization experts saying the most powerful tool is the caliphate. >> a successful caliphate. >> whatever it is, it's out there and this cult of people going out there. these people are attracting cult-like devotion. it's a different cult and this, this is a death cult and the same kind of thing and what they are saying, leaders around the world, many of them including religious leaders is that these

people occupy territory in syria and iraq in which to propagate their so-called power. this territory has to be taken away from them, has to be taken away from them. they cannot own territory to as the french president said create the biggest terrorist lab in the world right now. that involves ground forces. >> general hurtling, i know you believe there are aspects to the president's plan working. what do you think is working? >> first of all, i think we have to define this conflict. there are many americans, people in the western world that would like to see a war of annihilation. let's do this now and fast and have it done with. we said from the very beginning, anderson, this is really, i'll put it in the category of a war of attrition and i think that's what the president outlined in his original strategy and reinforced it last night although i'm sure there are some things behind the scenes going on in terms of revision of elements of that strategy, the

seven lines of operation and put it into four categories but there were seven lines, we knew what he was explaining. in iraq and syria there are gains being made and not as fast as the western world would like to see them but you see across the board, the lines of communications of isis are being affect affected. they are losing territory, not as much as we would like but are losing territory and there is a standing up of governments in iraq and truthfully, coming under a great deal of pressure from the shiite because he is challenging the government. if you go in and destroy isis on the ground, and we're attempting to do that in a war of attrition with special operators that are geared towards specific targets as intelligence has grown, you have to see other aspects of this campaign. the financial effects. the messaging effects. the stopping of fighter flow.

the coalition bill, which is not as strong as it should be just yet. all of those are elements of a war of attrition when you take things away from the enemy you have to fight. you have to know the enemy, know the terrain and know yourself as once said in order to achieve victory. >> christiane, one of the things we've seen with san bernardino and perhaps paris, as well, is that even if it is true that the territory that isis holds is shrinking maybe in syria or iraq, if they are encouraging people to stay in the home countries and just go and try to behead somebody on a subway as we saw in london over the weekend or attack people in san bernardino, that's a whole other way of fighting that requires a whole other way of counter fighting. >> in was the huge big fear by law enforcement as the war in syria became unmanageable and as it became worse and worse and assad, assad was enabling the rise of isis and other such

groups among those fighting him. you've got several issues here. let's talk about the radicalization one. these people if it's true what this woman did, pledged alliance to the caliphate. okay, this is what they are doing. the caliphate according to anti terrorism officials is the big major game changer and the other is online, these people abroad are being radicalized, self-radicalized. not sent by isis. we don't actually know that yet. they were a couple for whatever reason did what they did as isis keeps morphing and say for the first time in many it rations of this kind of extremists terrorism that the isis folks are having such success online because people are, you know, lapping this stuff up and getting radicalized to the point of violence before law enforcement can step in -- >> they are not on the radar. >> and you talk about this knife

attack. i think what is important is more and more muslims are coming out and an observer in london and twitter caught on camera. you ain't no muslim, you're not a muslim guy, so quit saying you are. >> i'll play that shortly. >> and in paris the same thing. >> when you hear donald trump saying ban all muslims from coming to the united states until we figure out what the heck is going on or whatever his verbiage is, for someone who fought overseas, iraq, does it make the job harder for u.s. troops who are aligned with muslim, you know, soldiers in various countries around the world to do their job? >> anderson, what i would say is mr. trump's comments are the equivalent of abu on steroids. it's something we don't need as we try to gain the trust and

confidence for those who need to help us -- >> explain that. you're saying strategically this is not smart. >> strategically it is a disaster. the things that mr. trump and others like him saying these sorts of things is alienating a population. it would be the same truthfully or not quite as bad as if we were to put a large number of ground forces in syria right now. it would be seen as west invading islam. it is exactly what all of our intelligence folks are telling us what isis wants. they want this kind of confrontation. they want to see indicators that the west is condemning all muslims. it plays into their narrative. it's horrible. it is worse than what we saw of the news in 2004. >> general hurtling, appreciate you being on and christiane amanpour, as always. up next, christiane mentioned this video, a guy trying behead somebody on a

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it shows the carnage he caused. he attacked a 56-year-old man from behind punching and stomping him to the ground before heading his head and sawing at his neck with a knife. it appears to be an attempted beheading. he lungs with his knife at another potential victim. it's unclear if he's successful in that attempt but we do know he stabbed a second person on the scene. bystanders reportedly rush to help and fend off the attacker until police arrive. it's chaos inside the subway station as police continue to try to subdue the attacker and then they fire the taser again. >> stupid idiot. >> six times. >> now on the ground, police kick away the attacker's knife,

roll him over and end the stand off. today, the suspect london resident muhaydin mire was in court. the man he slashed lived and is in stable condition. this is a terrorist incident and the attacker yelled this is for syria, my muslim brothers. one man at the tube station had a defiant response, one that has since gone viral. >> you ain't no muslim brov. >> let's bring in paul cruickshank. what more are you learning about this guy? >> anderson, authorities telling us they found disturbing stuff on his cell phone after the attack including a lot of isis propaganda and flag images and content relating to the paris attack and images and content relating to the san bern dee know shootings last week. this may have been a copy cat

style. it appears to have had some isis inspiration but his brother telling him he had mental health issues and alerted police of that. there seems to be some blend between mental health challenges and also radicalization. we've seen that before obviously in the united states and canada and other places, other attacks, anderson. >> there is knife attacks in england before, a british soldier, i believe his last anytime is rigby was beheaded outside his military base. there is no evidence this was an isis-directed attack, correct? inspired by it would seem but as of now, it's not clear whether it was actually directed, correct? >> no evidence at all it was an isis directed attack which would require him to go to syria or iraq, no evidence of that travel. this seems to be somebody angered reacting to the vote in the house last week where british lawmakers authorize air strikes against isis in syria,

anderson. >> this -- european intelligence officials said just last week that isis is planning to carry out its next attack in the united kingdom. could it be attacks like this one? this is obviously something which doesn't require much planning, you know, if really any planning at all and it's the kind of thing that's very difficult to stop. some person with evil intentions taking a knife and attacking somebody on a street. it could happen anywhere. >> it could certainly happen anywhere. there's a lot of concern about this lone wolf terrorism in the united states and u.k. one difference between the co-countries in the u.s., the relatively lax gun laws and attacks with guns a lot more people killed in the attacks than the u.k. that's one big difference between the countries. you're right, there is an intelligence warning. they are very concerned that isis operatives have been tasked and in fact have intelligence they have been tasked to return

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