donald trump calling tonight for a travel ban on ausmus limbs entering the united states. it's 11:00 in the east.

this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. he told reporters a travel ban is not politically correct, but he does not care. much, much more on that ahead this hour. but first, the fbi says the killers behind the san bernardino massacre were radicalized and had been for quite some time. let's discuss now with keung law. the fbi saying they are trying to build a timeline into last week's shooting. what's the latest on the investigation? >> well, the investigation, at least what they are telling us so far is it certainly has signs of extreme planning. in case and point, what the fbi is saying is that out of the arsenal, they pulled 19 pipes. originally, that report was 12. it's now risen to 19 pipes that could easily be turned into bombs. so certainly a very large arsenal. as you mentioned, don, that radicalization of both for some time. the question now, and the critical question for

investigators is exactly when and exactly how. don. >> the most disturbing part, perhaps, of this whole thing is the fact that they went to target practice days before the shooting. >> you're right. this is just days before the shooting, from what we are hearing. we went to the riverside magnum range. there they say farook did show up, brought his only rival, an ar-15 rival. they say he didn't have too much contact with people at the range, but he did practice. he left taking his weapon with him. the range says they don't feel that they did anything wrong. they didn't instruct him, they didn't teach him anything, but now they are saying they are getting severe backlash. when we were there, police were there because a death threat had been called into that gun range. >> and how about the wife, tash

dpeeen malik, what do we know about her? >> what we are learning about her is she was raised in pakistan, spent much of her formative years in saudi arabia. she returned to pakistan. this particular area where she went to college and where she was raised is reiff with extremism, different versions of islam that is debated among the community. there is a lot 06 poverty there. and what we are hear cousins there is during those formative years, she took a strong, something towards more than conservative background. it is starting to come into a bit sharper focus. >> thank you for that. joining me now is anthony may. retired atf officer, buck sexton is here, as well, national security editor for "the blaze" who is a former cia agent. gentlemen, the fbi says there's

no evidence of a broader overseas plot. how does that form with the shooters trying to destroy their digital footprint? >> i think the bureau has a pretty good handle on that, but i think what they're looking at is the digital footprint is who else was probably assisting them, either in this country, and there's information that they were trying to contact several islamic groups overseas. so it's -- i think as we peel back this onion over the next few days, couple weeks, we're going to see more and more information coming out where they did have contact. we've been extremely lucky in this country. also, through some great work the fbi the has done, but if you look at the underwear bomber, the shoe bomber, the times square bomber, thank god that they weren't adept at making bombs and this couple, also, otherwise we would have had several disasters on our hands. >> can i ask you about your reaction to hearing the shooters

went to target practice just days before the shooting rampage. do you think that should have raised some red flags? >> not really. you know, that's -- there's a lot of people that go to gun ranges. now, i will say that a lot of the magazines, the inspire magazi magazines -- "inspire" specifically talk bes if you're going to build a bomb, test it, make sure it works. you can do those things in isolated areas. in this particular case, he took his gun and went target practicing. maybe he wanted to make sure it worked. i don't know. >> the fbi also saying, buck, that they had been radicalized for some time now. so the big question is, do you think that this was self-radicalization or do you think that they had contact and it was something beyond that? >> it's honestly impossible to tell without that direct link to the outside. clearly, there was some concern on the part of these attackers that they wanted to try and cover up their tracks afterwards, while they went to the extra steps of -- i assume they figured they weren't going to live through this is ordeal.

which might have been because there were coconspiritest on the digital end, trying to put them in touch with individuals who might have been able to help them, logistically or ourselves. we'll have to find what that digital foot print is, if the fbi uncovers it. but some of the reporting that we've seen are online now which says people who were close to them heard one thing, he was supportive of the ideology and that he had an extreme hate red of reads. if you're going go catch them, they're not going on obvious chat rooms and saying they're going to commit jihad. it has to be from a friend or family member and i think we've gotten a sense that there are some people that may have asked st more questions. i think that people should have

known that there was something going on here and, clearly, these individuals were known to have been very devout. so in the early hours, we were told that wasn't even clear. >> i want to ask you about syed because he was born in the united states. i'm not sure what you think of donald trump's plan. you heard what he said about muslim immigrants 37 if you think that would have stopped it. what do you think about his comment? >> it absolutely wouldn't have stopped it. i think trump's comments are republic.henceble. it dispassengers the very people that -- not to mention guilty, but it dispatterns that we need to win if we're going to win this war. between sunni and shia, between the extremists and the moderates, we've essentially already lost that war. it also makes it hard for someone like me and your other guests to have serious

conversations without immediately following a vow of, oh, are you suggesting we should take a trump-like approach? so i resent it. i think it's genius. >> not only that, it was extremely d appointing. but the bottom line is, i think it's unconstitutional. i think that type of rhetoric -- i mean, in order to fight this movement, we have to have the community on our side. and there has to be a good relationship between law enforcement in the muslim communities and all our cities across the u.s. that type of -- that type of language does not help. >> anthony, do you want to weigh in on this? >> i certainly do. from a criminal investigator aspect, you know, we try to approach things with an unbias attitude. i don't care what their religion

is, their race, ethnicity, i don't care anything about that. we look at the means, motive and activity. there's no way we're going to take away the means unless you want to stop everything. opportunity, sure. and put armed gaushds is that they do in neckco going to a door down there. so the answer is, then, is motivation. what is motivating these people to do this? the columbine kids that went and did what they did, what was the motivation? they were considered outcasts. you know, somebody that goes and shoots up a planned parenthood because of -- maybe because of a video of kids being mutilated, the vitrole rhetoric spouted out there that motivates these

people, and it carries with the muslim community. we can't lump everybody into a single solid terrorism ideal. so motivation is the key to solving this. and this vitriol and this rhetoric. >> i wanted to get everyone to weigh in on it, but i want to ask you, buck, you said we're going to have to have some conversations that top that may not be politically correct. so he's saying the best way to do it is motivation. figure out what the motivation is. what are those conversations and trying to figure out how to stop this? >> some of the motivations are dealing with, for example, where a majority of major -- what might be termed strategic terrorist plots are going to emanate from. >> these are the conversations you're talking about? >> yeah. they're going to come from, many of them, from within the muslim community. that doesn't mean that you can then paint with this incredibly religion justice brush and you

need 206 the good will to help route this out. if we didn't have the cooperation of muslim countries in the war on terror, we would be dead in the water. if we did not have allies overseas who are muslims, we would not be able to fight this war in the least. so this idea that we can somehow push them out of the house entirely and never think of them again is nonsense and it's worse than that because it's deeply counterproductive and i think the conversations we're going to continue to have here about surveillance, about the first amendment, about where we have to draw those lines is harmed greatly by this sort of overstepping by trump, just to sort of get the headlines. >> buck, anthony, art, thank you, gentlemen. i appreciate all of you. the. a special note to tell you about, the band eagles of death metal took to the stage for the first time since terrorists killed 90 people at the rock band's last concert at the french capital in november.

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donald trump calling for a ban on muslims traveling to the united states. he told supporters tonight at a campaign rally that it's not a politically correct position to hold, but he does not care. so what's happened is we're out of control. we have noed idea who is coming into our country. we have no idea if they love us or if they hate us.

we have no idea if they have not to bomb us. we have no idea what's going on. >> joining me now is faried squaw car ya. i want to talk to you about this donald trump, the latest statement. you think it's an important policy, right, that he wants to shut down all muslims from entering the united states. >> it's important because he said it's a -- it's not an off-the-cuff remark. who knows if it's even constitution. i don't think trump cares about this. he says a total and complete shutdown. does that mean relatives of americans will not be given visas to visit their families? business men? >> everything? >> everything, a total and complete shutdown. at some point you have to ask when will the republican party really stand up? trump is what he is. trump is trying his best to play with the worst feares and anxieties that americans have

when they are feeling threatened and vulnerable. >> the question is, though, does this work for him? >> of course it will work for him. it doesn't take a genius to understand. it works if you're gem going. there's a reason demagogs throughout history have captured the attention like this. at moments like this when you have people who are scared and anxious and they want to hear some simple answer, let alone the fact that the answer won't do anything to keep america safe, he hasn't a single sensible idea about how to prosecute the war against isis any differently. but, of course, it will work in making people feel or hear something willing to do something radical, dramatic and bold. >> does it say something? you're saying will it work. does it say something about where we are as a people, as a country when it comes to terrorism and the fear you're talking about?

you're saying it's demagoguery, but the fear americans have not just about muslims, but about terrorism? >> this is a country that we have been safe historically compared with other countries. so the shattering of that sense of security is important. but look, if one of these att k attacks can do this to us, what does it say about us? look at what the british had to go through with the i.r.a. for decades and decades. look at what the spanish had to go through with catalonia. >> what happens in israel. >> look at what happens in israel. the resilience those societies have built up is something we need to recognize as a strength which is the ability to say, yes, we'll do everything to defeat this, but we will also not panic and not go crazy. >> how does this play overseas? we know donald trump as a real estate agent, as a character in

new york city and we know him from the apritis and what have you. how does this play overseas? >> obviously, it plays terribly. it also doesn't play well -- it's interesting where america has always been at the forefront of the expansion of liberty, at the expansion of the idea of openness, that's what america has always been about. and what's, you know, saddening to see is that the rest of the world is looking at an america that is talking about religious tests for entry, that it's talking about shutting down. and as i say, all this on the basis of this terrorist attack, terrible and tragic as it was, but terrorist attacks like this happen in many countries and they're not talkeding quite the same way. >> does this anti-muslim rhetoric, does this fuel isis, do you think? >> it certainly is what isis wants in the sense that isis

even talks -- we don't have to interpret. they talk about a gray zone, a zone of -- you know, the vast majority of people who are between the small minority who support them and what they regard as the west, the crusaders, things like that. so these are the people who they think have to be divided. and the strategy of the i.r.a., that's always been -- the strategy of trirchl is to force people who have to move, muslims who feel like we have no more recourse than to help, they don't like a world in which there is an open space that people are willing together. they don't like the adversity. that's not -- >> many people have been saying the president needs to come out to address the situation, after what happens in san bernardino, harrison, and on and on. considering what donald trump has said, what did you think

about the president's speech last night? did he do anything to negate what donald trump is saying? what did you think of the speech? >> i think it was in some ways vinta vintage, people like donald trump are playing with fire and he's going be cool, measured, he's going to have an adult conversation about the steps that are being taken to deal with isis, what we should do and what we shouldn't do. it may be too cool for some people. >> for those that says where is the passion, he wasn't passionate enough, you say -- >> i think he doesn't believe he should have to jump in a mote and get hysterical when bad things happen. i think his view is that's when you want to be grown-up, for all that people are saying, as i say, with regard to his strategy, not a lot of people have come up with an alternative. there is a huge problem in syria

which is you do not have a ground force that can take and govern the territory that isis controls. until you figure that out, you can -- you hough and puff all you want. you have to go along with the strategy that they have. air strikes, special ops, working with locals, trying to get the turks more involved. you know, for all the -- if you look at donald trump tweets, his response to the speech was why does he keep calling it isil? why doesn't he call it isis like everyone else? if that's your substantive critique of the speech, that tells you us you don't have an alternative. >> fareed zakaria, thank you. appreciate it. coming up, will donald trump's proposal device the gop? that's next. kind of like ordering wine equals pretending to know wine. de the gop? that's next. ght. ivide the gop? that's next. and can you explain why you recommend synthetic over cedar? "super food?" is that a real thing?

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this is a big question, is donald trump dividing the gop republican strategists? eric burnst said this, sad but true, gop attitudes toward muslims are especially low, especially among white evangelical protestants.

good to have all of you here with us. charles hurt, you say that president obama has left a vacuum of power and donald trump is filling it. what is he feeling it with? >> well, you know, we can all -- you know, people can ring their hands about his comment today about wanting to ban all muslims from coming to the country, but what do you expect? we've had seven years of a president who refuses to acknowledge the seriousness of radical islamic terrorism and you have a president who re fuses to secure the boarders and this is what happens in a big, sprawling, messy democracyfuses to secure the boarders and this is what happens in a big, sprawling, messy democracy like this when problems like that are allowed to fester and go unfixed, we wind up with very, very dramatic, you know, reactions from political leaders. >> so ba carry, if i don't let you in, it looks like you're going to just burst.

what? what? >> that was one of the more absurd i think i've ever heard to say that barack obama is to blame for donald trump's bigotry. that's as sa nine. the front-runner today, the person who is leading in the polls and has been since june or july in new hampshire, the one who galvanized a crowd today in south carolina is donald trump. and donald trump at best is a bigot. >> wow. >> and the problem is it's not just his comments today. it's his comments about hispanics when he announced his campaign. it's his comments about women. it's his comments about everyone. he's offended everyone but rich, white men and that's a problem and you cannot blame that on become. sflp you should take bigotry a little by more seriously than to accuse somebody of bigotry because he believes in securing the border and he believes there is a massive problem with a jihadist attempt to destroy america and he wants -- >> but that's not all muslims. >> it's albeit a fairley dramatic proposal, but that's

what he's trying to respond to. >> that's not all muslims and that's xenophobic and that's bigotry. if we want to talk about terrorism, let's talk about dillon roof or robert lewis gear and if -- if we were to ban individuals who looked like robbis lewis deer and dillen roof, we would simply have a show don't with me and don lemon. >> do you think it is fair, ben, to call him a bigot? >> look, i think what he said today was not well thought out and i think his campaign was pretty obvious about that. they -- i don't even think they knew exactly what was in their own press release, for goodness sakes. but let's be clear. donald trump is feeling a void because -- >> what do you mean they don't know what's in their press release? >> these all of a sudden they're talking about immigrants, but their own press release says all muslims will not be allowed into this country. does that mean muslims that are americans, that are overseas, does that mean former men and women in the military who are now contractors who are working

in the middle east? they can't come back? i mean, they did not think this out very well. they knew there was a void they wanted to fill. they knew that the american people are very concerned about isis. they're concerned about terrorism. and they feel like the administration, right now, is not doing enough. they don't feel like -- and look, there's a big vulnerability with this president and the way that he talked more about republicans and more about gun control than he did terrorism -- >> isn't that what charles just said? >> it is. and that's the reason why -- >> isn't that what charles just said? >> but my point is this, donald trump understands when there's an opportunity. this opportunity, though, he overstepped. >> all right. go ahead, rick. >> listen, i think the theme of not thinking it through is one we're going to see a lot more from the trump people. this thing today was -- look, we'll set aside whether donald trump is a bigot or not. this is a guy who understands how to play to his crowd. but the thing that's disturbing to me as an actual limited government conservative is he threw american muslim citizens into that same pot and said,

well, we're just going to basically suspend their rights, and this is a guy who is walking by -- >> he did clarify he's not talking about american muslims, but go ahead. >> well, he actually said on fox that he meant that those serving in the military. he didn't delineate the rest from what i heard of the interview. if i'm wrong, i'm wrong on that, but i heard he said only the ones serving in the military could come back. this is a guy, though, who is willing to make these incredibly broad sweeping generalizations about folks. and i don't care if they're muslims or baptists or mormons. at some point, another president, a liberal president might say, well, i'm concerned about these christians because some of them are involved in -- >> president is -- >> let's find that sound bite. we'll find it and we'll play it if we can get it into this conversation. >> the president is everything here. you see all the other republicans -- look, we've got a debate coming up on the 15th. don, this may be the moment when you truly see all the republican candidateses go all in to --

look how fast they came out tonight condemning his comments. >> they're all in, though. they're all in for donald trump because he's the front-runner. the person who is carrying the ball is going to get body hit as most. >> they're not going all in, though. the people who are polling above 5% in the republican primary right now. you hear crickets from ted cruz. you hear crickets from -- >> marco rubio came out moments after this -- >> ted cruz -- >> one at a time. rick wilson, go. >> almost everyone in the field came out, with the exception on of cruz who has been drafting behind trump for a while now. >> and ben carson. >> and lit up on this thing. >> and ben carson. >> yes, exactly. it's not about -- this isn't a bigger picture, not about the muslim and the terrorists and the immigrant question. this is about the constitution. he is a guy willing to write american citizens, no matter what their faith is, whether you like it or not, he's willing to write them out of the american

constitution in an extra judicial away away, and it's sog that i think should trouble americans. >> that said, how would trump even implement this? >> he can't. >> he can't. >> it's unconstitutional. >> he kaet don't. >> ben, last time i checked, your name was ben. go ahead. >> i don't know how you can go about doing anything like this. but i can say with absolute certainty that you can't call the huge number of americans out there who are genuinely upset about this and for whom this is probably an appealing proposal, you can't dismiss them as being bigots of racists. they're concerned about people coming into their towns, thursday communities and committing gee had against them. they're genuinely concerned. all i'm saying is we wouldn't be here if we were still taking this problem more seriously and weren't -- >> everybody stay with me. stand by, everyone. when the first muslim elected to

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strategy behind donald trump's rhetoric? back with me now, charles hurt, rick carson, ben ferguson and charles sellers. keith ellison from minnesota released a statement saying demagogs like trump appeal to the worst of people. they have never been celebrated in our history books from joseph mccarthy on. so bakari -- i'm sorry, i'm being called last right now, but not mccarthy. >> bakari, ellison is, of course, the first muslim elected to congress. did you ever think someone running for president, a democrat or a republican, would run on unconstitutional ideals? >> i think that is one of the biggest travesties of this campaign. it's so representative of the climate that we're in, that his rhetoric, it's more than that. he's talking about transforming on our constitution. his words, they literally fracture the core of what our country was built on. i paid attention to what

governor kasich said today about unifying and bringing our country today. for god sake, i literally miss mitt romney now. at least mitt romney elevated the conversation. we're talking steps backwards. in the largest national security threat we have right now in this country may be donald trump. he is the number one recruiting tool for isis and isil. we cannot win this war against terror without our muslim brothers and sisters. i'm distraught and frustrate, but this is the political discord we have now and that's a shame. >> rick, we promised earlier that we would look for the sound bite on greta where he talked about earlier on fox. i'm flower not sure if it's dleer enough with, but let's listen and we can further discuss this. >> there are americans serving in our military who are muslims who are overseas on bases. do you apply this rule to them? >> no. they would come home. anybody here stays, but we have to be very vigilant.

there's a lot of bad things going on. when you look at these polling numbers that came out, there is tremendous hatred, there's tremendous animosity, and these are taken of people living in our country, from muslims living in our country, which is amazing. because i have muslim friends, greta, and they're wonderful people, buts there's a tremendous section and cross-section of muslims living in our country who have tremendous animosity. we can't let this happen. >> does it apply to your friends? does this apply to your muslim friends? this -- >> no, of course -- this applies -- this does not apply to people living in the country, except that we have the be vigilant. >> so, rick, does that clear it up? it sounds like he's saying it doesn't apply to people living in the country that would be muslim citizens. >> i'm not sure it does clear it up. if donald trump would want in a while nod and wave at the constitution, i'd feel better about this whole thing. but the fact of the matter is, this is substitute in trump's mind for proposing anything

serious to deal with islamic terrorism, which is an immediate threat. what he's proposing would not have stopped what just happened. if he had a serious degree of policy knowledge or insight, he would talk about how would we improve our domestic intelligence surveillance of folks like this. how do we target these people? how do we profile in order to figure out who is going to get radicalized? >> charles -- >> he's great at the show, he's terrible at the leadership. >> before you respond, charles, all of the experts here, all the terrorism experts, all the law enforcement analysts we've had come on say that this sort of proposal was dangerous and would not stop radicalization or terrorism here in the united states. but go on. do you think that this clears it up and do you agree with that? >> well, no. all i was going to say is i think that -- and i'm not defending this proposal, but i do think that it would have at least stopped the woman from getting in here on a k1 visa. and that would have been a very

good thing. that would have saved 14 people who are now dead and 14 more people who are injured. and that is the rationale that millions of voters around -- and americans around across the country who cherish and love our religious freedom, that's what they're listening to. that's what they're thinking when they hear donald trump. and for us to sit up here and dismiss all of that -- >> but the constitution is more of donald trump -- >> but -- >> tonight, take a listen. >> it's been a great day because the poll numbers are through the roof. i like that. but i have more -- is there any way we can call the election tomorrow? wouldn't you love that? now they're coming at us in full force. they're fought coming at me, they're coming at all of us. they're coming at all of us because, you know, we have a noisy majority. they used to call it the quiet majority. people are fed up. they're fed up with uncompete e

uncompetence. they're fed up with leaders. >> some people have said these are the conversations that americans are having at home that they wouldn't necessarily say in public, but they feel the way donald trump feels -- >> because they're terrified of political correctness. >> with the, they're terrified of political correctness, but the whole reason why donald trump came out with this today is because he says that we could have stopped the woman from coming into this country. and there are many americans that are going to listen to that aspect of what he's been saying. and his point is, we don't know who these people are coming into this country. this com woman came in on a fiancee visa and obviously our checks and balances with our federal government didn't work because we now know that she was radicalized some time ago, very well could have been long before she came into this country, so our checks and balances are not working. so when he says i want to stop all muslims coming into this country bass we obviously don't know how to screen them, there is a large part of the

electorate that is going to say that's what i want to hear right now because what we're doing is not working. >> bakari. >> i disagree with ben on one point. it is not a large part of the electorate. it's simply a large part of the republican electorate. and i can't let rick get away with saying i'm calling all of donald trump's followers a bigot. i'm not. i'm coming donald trump a bigot. this is not the first time he's said something that's rooted in xenophobia. this was more than offensive. >> well, he says i know it's not politically correct and he stands by that. >> but my only point is this is not even republican or democrat. this is about someone who is literally using their rhetoric to fracture and divide our country even further. i mean, i don't understand how -- >> this is the part that -- >> let him finish. go ahead, finish, bakari. >> it's 35% right now. that's where he is. i'm not sure he'll be able to get any higher.

but the trouble for ben and anyone else on my right side is right now he's your standard there. >> i don't think he's our standard bear and i think you saw plenty of people condemn him today. what you're missing is he's saying while you're having this conversation about semantics of what he said, he's focused on national security and people, when they don't feel safe, he is filling that void and he's made it clear he's willing to say things that are politically incorrect if it helps with our national security. we have polls out now that say the majority of americans want to put troops on the ground to fight isis in syria. that is how insecure americans feel. some of them are democrats. .you don't get a majority without having people on both sides of the aisle and we're seeing that now. people in this country feel like we're under attack or vulnerable. >> i have to go, ben. thank you, ben. thank you, rick. thank you, bakari and thank you, charles. i appreciate it. >> you bet, don. >> we'll be right back. aw. aw. ♪

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outside his home. your new documentary, it's called "killing lennon" let's watch part of it. >> i left the hotel room, i knew what was going to happen that day. i just knew it. >> before he left, he put a display in the hotel. and it had -- it had his passport, it had photographs from when he worked at the ymca, it had other mementos from his life. >> a display that would make it easy to identify him as lennon's killer. >> and it was like his way of saying, look at me, i'm important. >> once the scene was set, chapman left to stake out the dakota again. he first saw sean lennon and his nanny. >> chapman came from wind her, reached around to shake sean's hand. and then he commented to her,

he's a beautiful little boy, isn't he? >> while sean was outside the dakota, inside his father was getting ready for his last interview ever. >> he was so real. he was so incredibly real. he wasn't a rock star. >> lori kay produced the six-hour interview. >> so you arrive at the da together ka. what was your first impression? >> where does he sit? right on the love seat next to me. so for the next couple of hours, it was like, that's john lennon and he's sittinging next to me and looking at me through his john lennon glasses. >> and then came the moment kay says she will never forget. >> he said, i hope to god that i die before yoko, because i don't know what i would do if she left before i did. in other words, he couldn't continue without her.

and -- >> 35 years later, people are still emotional about this story. >> oh, yeah. and you saw lori kay. she's the one that had the last interview. 35 years later, she gets ae meeshl. if you go to the hospital where we talked to the doctor, he had to tell yoko ono that her husband was dead. he still gets emotional more than three decades later. it's incredible how it still impacts people. the police officer that arrived at the scene, saw him lying there, bleeding out, decided the ambulance wasn't going to make it. he throws him over his shoulder, gets him in the back of the police car to get him to the hospital, he cried during the interview. >> did you ever uncover why mark david chapman killed john lennon? >> well, here is what's interesting. john lennon just happened to be the target at that time. he just wanted to be famous. he wanted to kill somebody famous. he talked about killing johnny

carson, elizabeth taylor, george c. scott, and he had all these plans to do so. >> have you even got a chance to look at his personal calendar and his journal leading up to the months leading up to the killing. >> and that was chilling in itself. months before he murdered john lennon, it got more chaotic and more bizarre and he was crossing things out like he didn't want people to see what he was writing and reminding himself that he had to go to the library and he needed to get his paycheck and pay bills and it got more complicated until the week that he murdered john lennon. and then there's nothing. and then his journal -- he would have these schematics of all these committees, he said, of little people in his head that were telling him what to do and he was bringing his problems to them and telling them to solve what was going on in his life. and then after he killed john lennon, also in this journal web wrote down his three vices. eating junk food and having

sexual deviate pleasures. clearly, a bizarre, shall we say, and sick individual. >> it reminds me, brings the question now, we've been talking so much about guns and who should be able to get them and, you know, this was 1980. should he have been able, considering that, to get a gun? >> that is such a great question. he had attempted suicide and he went to the hospital and he was evaluated. and because he wasn't institutionalized, because the doctor said he wasn't, quote, psychotic, they released him and he was able to go buy a gun without any kind of red flag popping up. as we know, the laws have changed quite a bit since then. but still, 35 years later, don, we're still talking about massacres, mental illness, we're still talking about people dying that shouldn't be dying because guns are getting in the wrong hands. >> i was shocked that it was 35 years because i remember it, you remember it. >> we're old. >> yeah. thank you so much. i can't wait to see this.

your work sals great, but this is going to be fascinating. the cnn special report "killing john lennon" premiers tonight night here on cnn. we'll be right back. it's a fact. kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping. ♪ it's the final countdown! ♪ ♪ the final countdown! if you're the band europe, you love a final countdown. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do.

that's it for us tonight. i'll see you back here tomorrow night. cnn's coverage continues now with john vause. this is "cnn newsroom" live from los angeles. ahead this hour, the republican front runner for president donald trump calls for a ban on all muslims from entering the u.s. winning cheers from his supporters, condemnation from almost everyone else. try not to breathe, beijing, for the first time ever the smog is so bad officials issue a red alert shutting down schools and businesses. and music video, the