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breaking news, donald trump tripling down telling barbara walters he does not regret his plan. insisting it does not play into the hands of terrorists. >> i'm worst thing that ever happened to isis. the people in my party fully understand that. they're running against me. the most part they have no poll numbers. i'm leading by a lot. they are trying to get publicity for themselves. when i came out against illegal immigration, everybody fought the same thing. two weeks later everybody was on my side including members of my own party. >> trump defending himself against accusations that he's a bigot. >> are you a bigot? >> not at all. probably the least of anybody you've ever met. >> because? >> because i'm not. i'm a person that has common sense. i'm a smart person. i know how to run things. i know how to make america great again.

this is about making america great again. >> a new cnn poll today giving trump a commanding lead in the first primary state of new hampshire. trump has 32% of the vote. his closest rival marco rubio, 18 percentage points behind. dana bash is "out front." trump not backing down tonight, not close to it. >> not at all. he is not a man who regrets things, especially this. despite universal condemnation, not just from his republican rivals, but also from party leaders, trump's sources think those statements are only going to help him solidify his status as front-runner. >> this isn't about being politically correct. >> you are going to have many more world trade centers if you don't solve it. many more and probably beyond. >> never mind backing down, donald trump is doubling down on a plan to block muslims from entering america. >> total and complete shutdown. >> even in the face of unprecedented fury within his own party, from the republican

house speaker -- >> normally, i do not comment on what's going on in the presidential election. i will take an exception today. this is not conservatism. >> reporter: to the republican senate leader. >> this suggestion is completely and totally inconsistent with american values. >> reporter: to former vice president dick cheney, revered by conservatives for pushing tough tactics to keep americans safe after 9/11. >> this cold notion that somehow we can say no more muslims, ban all religion goes against everything we stand for and believe in. >> reporter: voters in today's new hampshire poll say trump is the best candidate to take on isis. just like monday's cnn/orc poll in iowa. he was eager to defend his new plan. >> i'm talking about a temporary situation until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. >> reporter: even republican

party chair weighed in. "i don't agree, we need to take on radical islamic terrorism, but not at the expense of our american values. months after priebus pledged to support him if he is the nominee. >> it's not about the blow hards saying stuff. this is serious business. >> donald trump always plays on everyone's worst instincts and fears. >> you know how you make america great again? tell donald trump to go to hell. >> reporter: the president spokeman made a strong statement today, clearly trying to stir the pot politically for republicans. many are worried about the damage trump may do to the party, but as for trump, he's king noises again tonight about a gop nightmare scenario. that is an independent trump candidacy. he tweeted this afternoon if he

launched a third party bid, the vast majority of his supporters would back him and not the republican nominee. >> thank you, dana bash. "usa today" poll showing trump would be right about that. i want to go to tom foreman in washington. let's talk about the practicality of this plan. how many people would trump's plan impact? >> an awful lot. christianity is the biggest religion in the world. islam behind it with 1.6 billion people out there and they're in a lot of places. we talk about north africa and middle east. the really big numbers, the big percentages are in turkey and pakistan and india and indonesia. when you start going beyond those areas and start talking about the united states, well then the numbers are actually really small in terms of who is already here. if you took everybody out there, you watch how they grow over the years, this is a growing population, pew estimated by

2050 the numbers will be almost equal with christianity. and in the united states if we look at north and south america, the numbers are tiny, but immigration trends coming this way. look at that. less than 1% of the world muslim population, but that number is growing. >> will donald trump get their vote? when the issue happened with mexicans, he said i will get the hispanic vote. will he get their vote? >> it doesn't look like it. if you look at the growth of people in this country who are muslim coming here by immigration, look at that. in 1990, about 50,000 a year. now up over 115,000 a year. if you move all the way up here to 2030, they are expecting 130,000 a year. they are coming from a series of countries. biggest ones are pakistan.

14,000 from bangladesh. 12,000 from somalia. in this country, we know about half the muslim population is an immigrant half. they weren't born here. they are leaning democratic in their voting. they are less dogmattic. if you compare the way they go to services and pray and make religion a central tenet of their life, american muslims are a whole lot like american christians and don't have as much in common with the people donald trump seems to be warning america about, yet they could take big offense. >> 12,000 from somalia. half the muslims in this country not born in this country. fascinating. out front, former reagan white house commentator.

jeff toobin, let's talk about the let. possible? >> i try to be a reasonable person. i try not to make categorical statements. this violates several provisions of the constitution. freedom to right to equal protection of the law. require of no religion test. there is a reason why there is no law on the books and never has been one in american history that singles out a single religion for different treatment. >> trump supporters are pointing to this, title 8 section 1182 of the u.s. code. whenever the president finds that the entry of any aliens or class of aliens into the united states would be getmental to the interests of the united states, he may by proclamation and such

period suspend the entry of all aliens. that reads to me he could absolutely do this. >> it says he can designate a class of people. but his designation cannot violate the constitution. when that has been invoked before like in the haitian boat lift, it was a tremendous danger to haitians themselves, they could reject the class. that law has never been used to designate a religion or a political group. >> dick cheney says he's gone too far. that is saying something, right? he's been criticized being too tough on terror. you heard donald trump say he is not a bigot. is it a problem is even being asked that question?

>> i think this is the way politics goes. a lot of his opponents are after him on something like this. in terms of his being a bigot, let me point out the obvious here. number one, his daughter ivanka is jewish. his inlaws are jewish. i don't think he's an ant anti-semite. he opened up his marla laggo club and advanced getting african-americans and jews into private clubs in the palm beach area. i think his record speaks for itself, not to mention his family. >> i was talking to someone in the middle east, a billionaire, muslim. his comment about donald trump was, it's all politics, but we muslims must fix our act. not what i expected to hear. >> you have extremism. that is what donald trump is playing into right now. the fact there is a real threat from muslim extremists. it's obvious is there a problem

with the system. the system did not catch this woman that came in on a fiance visa. she was radicalized for quite some time. if you want to say you want to stop visas or people coming in from certain parts of the world hotbeds to terrorism, that is something i think many republicans will get behind and defend that idea. when you say it's a religion, that is where this was not well thought out by donald trump and/or his campaign. we are seeing them walking it back now. saying it would be for a short period of time. you cannot have a religious test, as he described it. people can lie. this is the part that bothers me the most about what donald trump said. are you going to look at someone and say are you a muslim? even if they are dressed in muslim garb and want to get into this country and attack us as a member of isis or al qaeda, they

can say i'm not a muslim. the idea you could implement this maybe the most insane part of anything he said. people can lie about their religion. >> fair point. the fbi is investigating an incident, surveillance video, a severed pig's head thrown at a mosque in philadelphia last night. disgusting to watch this. the mayor of philadelphia spoke out about this and donald trump today. >> he's an ass. how can i take seriously any foreign policy idea from someone like him? it's impossible. he has no idea what he's talking about. >> listen, there are always going to be people out there -- whoever did this thing in philadelphia is responsible for their actions.

we get into these situations where people say or do things out there, then we want to blame it on somebody else. not just donald trump. we want to blame it on president obama or this or that person. you are responsible for your own actions. whoever did this did this. it has nothing to do with donald trump. >> jeff pointed out donald trump is the rosa parks of palm beach. that he has done so many beautiful things in palm beach. >> the anti-defamation league liked it. >> i'm sure they do. the point is there is actually investigations of people coming into this country already. the idea that world trade centers are coming. this hysteria and panic is inappropriate. there are not people dying of terrorism all the time in this country. there are many more people who die from lightning strikes than from terrorism. people should be serious and not hysterical. >> let's be serious about what

happened in san bernardino. let's be serious about the fact of what just happened in paris. to imply that people should not be overreacting or not be fearful of isis and/or these terrorists that are doing these attacks is incredibly unrealistic and out of touch with the average american. remember right now, new polls say the majority of americans are in favor of putting boots on the ground in syria. we wouldn't have had that a couple of years ago. people do not trust the president of the united states to have a clear vision for what he is going to do to fight isis. that is why donald trump is where he is. >> thank you all, very much. clearly something about what he is saying is resonating with plenty of people. his message, us against them, helped fuel his rise. can he ride that all what it to the white house? plus breaking new details about the san bernardino shooters. syed farook took out a big loan

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tonight donald trump threatening to run as an independent in 2016. a new poll shows nearly 70% of trump supporters say they will vote for him if he runs as third party candidate. trump retweeted that stat moments after the poll came out. for now, he's still the front-runner to be the republican nominee. will this plan and his other controversial comments stop him from being america's choice next november? >> something bad is happening. something bad is happening. and we can't be the stupid ones. >> reporter: it's an alarmist tone embedded in nearly every

donnell trump speech. >> something really dangerous is going on. >> reporter: while his slogan is -- >> make america great again. >> reporter: the subtext seems to be americans are not safe right now. on the campaign trail and in interviews, trump punches up the drama. >> it sounds cold and hard. we have a country going to hell. >> reporter: sharking declarations and dark imagery. >> you have isis and others wanting to blow up our country. >> reporter: turning the fear in american's minds into something more imminent and more ominous. >> we have people out there that want to do great destruction to our country. whether it's 25% or 10% or 5%, it's too much. they want our buildings to come down. they want our cities to be crushed. they are living within our country. >> reporter: it's a strategy that trump has relied on since the day he announced his campaign, warning about undocumented mexican immigrants.

>> and they're bringing those problems with us. they're bringing drugs. they're bringing crime. they're rapists. >> reporter: on syrian refugees, raising concerns that terrorists might infiltrate those seeking resettlement in the u.s. >> i said to myself, wow, they're all men. there are no men. you look at it. there are so few women. there are so few children. not only are they men, they're young men and they're strong as can be. they're tough-looking cookies. >> reporter: now trump calling for a complete shutdown of muslims' entry in the united states. >> we have to stop the muslims. does that make sense, by the way? >> reporter: uncertainty are big factors with terrorism and national security top concerns for voters. 4-10 republicans say trump is the candidate they think could be the most effective solving the country's problems.

suggesting not only dire warnings, but his trademark tough talk. >> we'll be so vigilant and careful. we'll be so tough and so mean and nasty. >> reporter: may be falling on receptive ears. >> every time there is a tragedy, everything goes up. my numbers go way up. we have no strength in this country. we have weakness. >> reporter: that may be one of the biggest reasons we've seen this sort of continued and constant rhetoric from donald trump. it seems to be working among voters playing to the uncertainty, playing to the fear that are especially or voters' minds in the wake of the paris and san bernardino attack. >> donald trump campaign spokesperson and political commentator. donald trump offended various groups of people at different times, women, muslims, mexicans. muslims may be 1% of the u.s. population, women are about half. is he going to limit the groups

that could vote for him? will this be a self-fulfilling problem? >> i don't think so. look at the polls. even if they don't like the way trump speaks, they still think he's the strongest person for the job. at the end of the day when people vote, they are not going to vote for mr. nice guy. >> what do you say, hillary? >> i think he's getting support from 30% of the republican voters. i think his numbers are consistent there. they like him. that's who he's playing to. i think it's hard for him to grow. the only way this works is if all these other republicans stay in the race, but if other republicans drop out, those voters go somewhere, i don't think to donald trump. with regard to the general election, he has a real ceiling. i don't think americans are going to elect a president who plays to our worst fears.

that is not typically what we support in presidents. yes, we want caution and leadership and strength, but we also want hope and enthusiasm and a sense of patriotism. i think he fails at that. i think the voters will agree. >> i want to talk about the numbers -- go ahead. >> we had hope and change. we had seven years of hope and change. look where we are today. donald trump is not playing on anything. he is just speaking plainly to the american public and speaking the truth. yes, it might be offensive to some people, but interesting people aren't universally liked to begin. with the fact of the matter is people were afraid before donald trump released this policy last night. it is with regard to immigration only. this is not something that is going to make isis want to kill us more. this was happening before donald trump implemented this policy. we had politicians in office for decades who left the borders opened. something has to be done.

>> in terms of the general election, because people think donald trump is strong on isis. that is true. hillary clinton and donald trump in a dead heat 44% on who would be best to handle isis. it's hardly as if the american people are saying he's not the one. if you do a dead heat matchup between hillary clinton and donald trump, clinton is slightly ahead 48-44. hilary rosen, those numbers show the american public is responding to donald trump. >> like i said, i think he caps out. i just don't think he is going to get a majority for this. i'm not surprised in head-to-head when he's been on tv every day for the last several weeks that there's much more attention being paid to the republican primary. i think when you look at most these matchups, hillary clinton beats donald trump across, yes maybe a margin of error, but she is still ahead in virtually

every national poll. i'm not generally worried about that. really the issue is never before have i ever seen in a general election virtually every single national security expert say that what a prominent presidential candidate has said, actually a candidate in the lead in the gop primary, actually makes this country more dangerous and more problematic across the board republicans and democrats agree that it's wrong policy. >> thank you both very much. conversation to be continued. "out front" next -- we are just learning the san bernardino shooters took out a big loan before the attack. did officials miss a crucial sign. >> a new isis handbook for women. instructions how to stage attacks with rifles and suicide belts.

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breaking news. the fbi tonight digging into the san bernardino killers' finances. the couple got a bank loan for more than $28,000 just days before the massacre. according to reuters, the couple may have drained their bank accounts, maxed out their credit line, a strategy often used by terrorists before embarking on a suicide mission. also tonight, alarming new details about the ties to terror. authorities say a post on facebook indicates both the husband and wife pledged their allegiance to isis. what more are you learning? >> let's begin with the money. that loan you were talking about. cnn has been speaking to multiple law enforcement sources who tell them a $28,500 loan was

taken out by farook. half of that money went to his mother. some of it went to household expenses, according to those multiple law enforcement sources. and that all of the money has been accounted for. the key thing here with this money is that the money did not appear to come from an outside entity and the money did not fund this operation, the arsenal, the guns, the bulletses, everything seized by federal agents. that was bought prior to this loan. pam brown confirming this money was taken out by farook. >> tracking the money, they are looking at the timeline of their radicalization. shocking new details there you're finding out. >> reporter: yeah. the timeline here is critical. we don't know very much about exactly how or why or who. that's something that agents really need to understand here to try to prevent the next one. what we are learning, sources

telling cnn that tashfeen malik, the wife, appears to be radicalized two years ago before she was in the united states. she met her husband approximately two years ago in the fall 2013 for the first time in saudi arabia. that was approximately the time they met. she did not enter the united states until 2014. those sources telling cnn it does appear she was radicalized before she entered the u.s. >> thank you very much. "out front" now, james fitzgerald and former chairman of the house select and committee on intelligence mike rogers. cnn learning tashfeen malik was radicalized before coming to the united states last summer. how was she able to enter the united states? with this whole conversation about donald trump, people are saying we are already screening

people. something didn't happen that should have happened. >> i don't know how you would determine if someone was willing to use deception to get into the country and not be forth coming in the fact she was radicalized or had extreme views, how you would catch that in the interview process. the data bases are good for what they're good for. that's information relayed from a foreign country that says this person is associated with terrorism. that is a data base the fbi has access to. it is clear neither one of those people rose to that level. remember, the tsarnaev brothers were investigated almost a year by the fbi and found they had strong views, but didn't rise to the level to say these folks are going to commit a terrorist act. >> this would mean this timing she was radicalized before coming to the united states, she could have been pregnant while she was radicalized and planning

a suicide massacre specifically. terrifying thought. do you think having this baby was part of the plot? why do you think that? >> it goes way back before two years. i'm convinced she could have been a baby when this process started we have to discuss more about her family in pakistan, other places she visited. this could have been a pact she had with her handlers, not to mention her husband when she met and married him. i believe in this cause. i am a true believer. i want to have a baby first. i'll make sure she is taken care of down the line. some of this money you are borrowing or letters or digital recordings will be for my young daughter when she reaches 10 years of age, she can follow in my footsteps. this happened well before two years ago. the baby may have been part of

this overall deal. >> i'm not sure that was planned. it could have been an accidental birth or unplanned birth, i mean. if you believe in isis and the calafate, they start early. they'll recruit people in these training camps or take these kids as young as 3 years old. they call them cubs of the calafate. there is one particular cam that issued swords and dolls. their whole purpose was to train these children how to chop the head off this doll. they would call them the infadels. it's a dangerous trend to see these kids consumed by isis. once that person goes through that process, maybe even participates in an execution or witnesses it, really difficult to get those kids back and out of that environment in a way that keeps them and their

neighborhood safe. >> i talked to the tone last night for the farook family. he was adamant his mother helping to take care of that baby had no idea about any of this. do you believe her? do you believe the family? >> that's what attorneys do that work for a client. of course we need more facts, more information. i find it hard to brief she could live through this pre-offense gathering material, as well as doing dry firing, practicing shooting in the backyard without seeing something. i have a feeling she i not a stupid woman. there is no way she could see her son and daughter-in-law going through these machinations and not know something was being planned and something relatively evil and deadly. >> thank you both very much we know she was questioned for seven hours. at this point has not been kept in custody. "out front" next, isis has a new handbook for women for rules of

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>>. >> tonight, investigators stepping up their investigation zeroing in on the woman behind the san bernardino attacks. learning she was radicalized before coming to the united states which means she could have been pregnant while planning her attack on terror. we have the isis handbook for women. >> reporter: they are women from the west linked to isis. tashfeen malik helped her husband killed 14 people and killed in a shootout attempting to plea police. her role in the terror attack could be a game changer compared to the responsibilities of isis women who typically only support men in domestic roles.

>> maybe she thought she was going to break the glass ceiling. >> reporter: the prominence of these three women comes in the wake of a new document obtained by terror expert maya broom and her team. there are rules of engagement believed to be from the isis jihadi. women are instructed to use weapons or suicide belts when their home is threatened or a hospital or public place attacked by so-called unbelievers. sniper rifles are allowed, but only if permitted. it's still unclear what connections malik and her husband had to isis, but both are believed to have pledged allegiance to the terror group. >> both subjects were radicalized. how did that happen and by whom and where did that happen? we don't know those answers at this point.

>> reporter: in january, she fled paris. ten months later again in paris. in a raid, authorities killed abdelhamid abaaoud. his female cousin was also killed during the raid just before authorities say they were about to launch another attack. >> every terrorist organization, how much they said they didn't want or need women, what generally happens is that certain periods of time they get desperate and they change the policy. >> this is incredible. you have this handbook. you have a case here where a woman with an infant committed a mass murder suicide bombing. this is not the person anybody was ever looking at. >> that's right. you wouldn't think a woman would be capable of abandoning her

child. isis has a very different philosophy. they see children as really collateral to the cause. their cause is the extremist ideology. isis on the battle fooefielbatt fighters don't want women on the battlefield. they need the women to pro create. you can't have a calafate if you can't keep it going. they need to have babies for this utopian ideal. for women in the west, it's more of a feminist perspective. they are willing to be more engaged and more prominent. in these three terrible terror attacks, there was a woman at the side of the person doing the killing. in this particular case, she was actually in the back of that suv shooting at police officers. she was in that fight, hook, like and sinker. it's a concern. >> all right.

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his cell. as you can see here, tasing him in his cell. then they drag his body, as you see there, dragging him on the floor into the hallway. this is a stunning new video. the latest in a string of videos showing disturbing behavior by police in chicago. it all started with this tape, now infamous. then there was footage of ron johnson, shot to death while flying from officers. as you can see there, shot, shot, shot again. repeatedly. and now there is another tape, the city of chicago does not want you to see. rosa flores has this "outfront" investigation. i want to warn you, we've never played this before, you're going to see it here and some of this video is graphic. first there was the shocking video of laquan mcdonald. and then ronald johnson. both shot and killed by chicago

police, cases that have caused outrage. but there's a third police shooting and video that view have seen. we've talked to two men who have seen it and they say it shows in detail the killing of black teen cedric chapman by a chicago police officer in 2013. >> he is running as fast as he possibly can away from the police when he is shot. >> brian kauffman represents chapman's family and has been fitting for the release of the video. >> he is dead within eight seconds of getting out of his car and running. >> lorenzo davis analyzed the video second by second and says this case cost him his job. >> we felt like it was unjustified shooting. >> davis led the review for the city agency that investigates all officer-involved shootings, called the independent police review authority, or ipra, a

former police officer himself, he describes what's on the video. >> they pulled up alongside of that car. >> chatman was running away from the stolen car he was driving when a police officer opened fire. >> chatman was running along here, and when he got to roughly this location, i would say, there was a gunshot. >> reporter: chatman was carrying a black iphone box in his hand. the shooting officer would later say he thought it was gun. >> he did not shout a warning. he did not use his radio to give direction of flight. he simply pointed his gun until he had a clear shot. >> reporter: lorenzo davis says when he deemed the shooting unjustified, his boss said ipra asked him to change it to justified. when he refused, he says he was fired. ipra assigned another investigator and called part of davis' report glaringly biased, saying there was a significant

discrepancy between davis' findings and what the facts of the case actually show. the officer who shot chatman was exonerated. >> they don't want to say that the shooting was wrong. >> reporter: why is that? >> because then it makes it look like some police officers are killers. and they don't want it to look that way. >> reporter: in fact, not on was the officer cleared, two of chatman's accomplices were actually charged with first degree murder, even though they were at least ten blocks away when he was shot. prosecutors said the two were involved in the carjacking which led to chatman's death. they pled guilty to lesser crimes. chicago police officers have shot 409 people since 2007, a third of them fatally according to a cnn analysis of ipra's data. that's one person shot about every week for the past eight

years. an analysis of the 260 closed cases shows in on six cases, or 2%, officers were found to be not justified in the use of deadly force. we keep on hearing from activists in the community, from members of the community, there's a coverup culture to protect police officers, to protect politicians. what's your reaction to that? do you think that culture of coverup exists? >> yes, i do. that protects the reputation of the police department. that protects the reputation of police officers. >> now cnn has reached out to the chicago police department to the independent police review authority and to cook county state's attorney's office and has received no comment. now, we should add that in the past week mayor rahm emanuel has asked the superintendent of police to resign, the head of ipra to resign and has also

welcomed the doj to come into chicago and investigate the department of police. we should say that doj investigation is under way and one of the things that they're looking at is use of force. erin? >> rosa, thank you very much. we may see that new video tomorrow. and next, politicians and salty tongues.

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erupted. >> we're americans, damn it! >> reporter: most credit the donald for lowering the bar. >> it's political bull [ bleep ], do you understand? >> reporter: but everyone seem to be following in his foot steps. we need more phone surveillance, bull [ bleep ]! >> i would bomb the [ bleep ] out of them. >> reporter: it adds to the macho factor, makes him sound like one of us. even bernie sanders got sick and tired of hearing -- >> about your damn e-mails! >> me, too. >> and president obama complimented the women's soccer team by saying -- >> playing like a girl means you're a bad ass. >> reporter: it got this fox

reporter a two-week spengs whus when he described the president as a "p" word. >> carly cut his [ bleep ] off by -- >> what did you just say? >> the donald wanted an apology. >> reporter: the mayor of philadelphia just said this about you, donald. >> he's an [ bleep ]. >> and if you go profane, the crowd might go crazy. >> i would bomb the [ bleep ] out of them.