from people who have not even in the face of fierce condemnation from his party elders. >> this is not conservatism. >> gop presidential hopeful donald trump refusing to back down on his proposal banning muslims from entering the u.s. >> what was proposed yesterday is not what this party stands for and more importantly, it's not what this country stands for. >> the chairman of the republican national committee joining the chorus, telling the washington examiner, i don't agree. we need to aggressively take on radical islamic terrorism but not at the expense of our american values. one gop lawmaker issuing a call from the house floor for the billionaire to drop out. >> it's time for donald trump to withdraw from the race. >> reporter: trump unfazed by comparisons to lit other on the front page of the "philadelphia daily news." >> i'm talking about a temporary

situation until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. >> the implication is that we might have a better handle on this. >> reporter: on tuesday, widespread rejection from his gop rivals. >> he's a religious bigot. he doesn't represent my party or the values that the men and women who wear the uniform are fighting for. you know how to make america great again, tell donald trump to go to hell. >> it's not about the blow hards saying stuff. that's not a program, that's not a plan. this is serious business. >> reporter: trump's proposal, even hillary clinton and dick cheney are united in opposition. >> this is both a shameless and a dangerous idea. >> this whole notion that somehow we can say no more muslims, ban a whole religion goes against everything we stan for and believe in. >> reporter: the white house also issuing sharp criticism. >> the fact is what donald trump

said yesterday disqualifies him from serving as president. the question now is about the rest of the republican party. and whether or not they're going to be dragged into the dust pan of history with him. >> more and more republicans are telling me they look at donald trump as hillary clinton's best possible chance of winning the general election if he's nominated as the republican nominee. but you can see how far the party has to go to knock him down. our cnn/wm ucht r poll shows trump with a wide lead in new hampshire, he has 32% support, his closest rival is marco rubio at 14% support. back to you. we have two big dynamics going on here, what this means for the party and what this means for the country. this is a fundamental question of how we're going to deal with terrorists. let's turn to senior contributor and conservative commentatocomm mr. matt lewis and ron brownstein. ron, i start with you.

i see this two ways. the gop has to figure out what they're going to do with trump. he's the guy at the top of the list. do they have the power or the leverage, especially with the third party looming. let's start there. >> that threat of the third party is something mr. trump has dangled at times and i think will be dangling all the way through every day he's in the republican primary. if he's not the nominee we'll be hearing about it until next summer. he has an identifiable constituency. it's not an implausible idea that he could run as a third party candidate and draw a substantial vote, a la ross perot in 1992. it's a legitimate threat. it's something a lot of party leaders have in the back of their head as they struggle to deal with a trump phenomenon that in the long run puts them at odds with the fundamental diversity and demographic change we are living through after most republicans recognize. most republicans believe they have to reach out to the

changing america. most republican strategists. what trump is show, however, a big portion of the republican base is simply unwilling to go in that direction and will coil very sharply from it. >> what a crazy time we are living through and witnessing. the front-runner, the republican front-runner by a vast margin is being criticized by people, leaders in his party. i mean, what happens now? >> yes. it's crazy. look, if hillary clinton paid somebody to try to destroy the republican brand, they would do exactly what donald trump has done. that tells you how bad things are, how potentially bad they are. but republicans, i think, are walking this fine line on one hand they have to make clear that donald trump does not represent their view, does not speak for the party. on the other hand they want to keep him inside the tent, keep him from launching that third party campaign which could throw the election to hillary clinton. so it's a really, really

difficult situation. i would say, though, don't hit the panic button just yet. i think it's entirely plausible you end up with a nominee like a marco rubio, for example and that the party can go the direction that will be more inclusive and take conservatism into the 21st century. >> look, this is an opportunity. you have all these guys and fiorina on the gop side have been saying we need a moment. you give trump so much attention. this is their moment to step up and say how they are different on this particular issue. it's metaphorical. that takes us to this bigger thing. the republicans are reaping what they've sewn. they went heavy on opposition, heavy on negativity. nothing works. you have somebody who embodies that. you have a bigger issue of who we are as a country and how we're going to face the fear and the threat. how big is this moment in your estimation? >> this is enormous. i've written what we are living through is the transformation of america into a true world nation

or kaleidoscope society without any single dominant group. a majority of our public school students are nonwhite. a majority of our under 5 population is nonwhite. white christians who have always been the dominant group is less than half of the population. we are diversifying. we are becoming, as i say, a kaleidoscope country. we saw even before san bernardino all of the economic and cultural strains of trying to adapt to this change, how difficult an issue this is, how explosive an issue it is. when you add to that the economic and the cultural issues, the threat of security and terrorism, you are truly producing a combustible moment in a moment when you have leaders talk about what the country has in common. what trump is doing is giving voice and validating those most unnerved by these changes and making this a difficult situation not only for the pear but ultimately for the country. >> let's remind our viewers about the interview chris did yesterday with donald trump where he said some of these very

provocative things, including how long a ban he would see on muslims from coming into the u.s. listen to this. >> i'm talking about a temporary situation, until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on, chris. is it temporary? yes, it's until the country's representatives can figure out what is going on. fact is, until our people can do something about these horrible people that want to do damage to our country, real damage to our country, then i think it should stay in place. but it's temporary until we can figure that out. >> so, matt, he was vague, obviously about the timing as he often is, about specifics. yesterday i sat down with a panel of trump supporters and they -- this is music to their ears. they agree with this. they say that -- they feel scared right now in the country.

this is not anything that makes them take a second look. they feel even more strongly than ever about him. in fact, the fact that the republican party establishment is trying to reject him, that doesn't bother them at all. that makes them -- him stronger in their minds. >> absolutely. look, we have the culmination of so many cultural societal, technological changes happening right now. part of the reason republicans have to be delicate with the way that they distance themselves from trump, it's not just donald trump. it's a lot of americans who like donald trump and support him. and some of whom are fight good, you know, patriotic americans who are very afraid economically they're afraid. they're afraid for this country in terms of terrorism. they feel like the country that they love is changing. they think that there's liberal overreach, political correctness run amuck. they have legitimate fears and concerns. the question is, i think trump is exploiting that in a very negative and cynical way. how do conservatives respond and

how do we try to win them over? so, look, i think that when trump says hey, what i'm talking about is common sense, in a sense he's right. becauseresponding to fear is a base instinct. telling people to consider things like religious liberty or unintended consequences, that's a move more sophisticated thing to do. it's harder to sell in a sound bite. >> when people are scared, and they're scared, they want control. what he's giving them, donald trump, is control. ban the muslims, there's your control. this is a moment for leaders to step up. hillary clinton put out a tweet, not enough, you have to come out, be full throated and you have to tell the american people what you are on this. i think it's going to be the extension of the issue that decides the election. >> ron, matt, thank you for your perspective. great to talk to you. stick around, everyone. coming up on "new day," we'll discuss trump's controversial muslim ban with senator angus

king, senator tom cotton and congressman andre carson as well as christine todd whitman. >> and the timing couldn't be more pivotal for a moment in this election. we're less than a week away from the big cnn republican debate. the last one of 2015. and really, probably the most at stake in terms of how big this issue is going forward. it starts, of course, tuesday, 6:00 p.m. eastern. that's when the coverage starts. then you have the undercard debate and the main event is at 8:30 eastern only on cnn. >> interesting timing, huh? >> uh-huh. planned it perfectly. >> all that happening just before the next debate. other news, breaking news on the paris terror attacks investigation, the third attacker who blew himself up at the bataclan concert hall has been identified. cnn's senior european correspondent jim bitterman live in paris with the breaking details for us. jim? >> reporter: right, michaela. in fact, he's been identified by the prime minister himself as

fouad mohamed aggad. he went as part of a group. the others returned to france. they were arrested by police and put under provisionary detention, all of them except for fouad, mohamed aggad. he vowed to take revenge on france and in fact has now. he's been identified. that makes all three of the attackers at the bataclan theater, the performance hall, who killed 90 french young people, all three of them were french born and had french passports. michaela, chris? >> thank you very much. we appreciate it, jim. paris driving fear of terror striking here and then it did. san bernardino, the more we learn, the scarier it is. the male terrorist was planning

an attack three years ago. they also believe now he joined his wife in pledging allegiance to isis on facebook as the recent attack was unfolding. cnn's dan simon is live in san bernardino with more. dan, what do we know? >> reporter: well, hey, chris, a couple new developments to talk about. we are told that siyed farook my have been planning an attack in 2012 with someone other than his wife. we are told at this point they apparently abandoned this sort of plot because the, we're told, in effect they may have gotten spooked. the second thing, we're told that farook may have taken out a bank loan in november for $28,500. what that money was used for, we're told, half of it was given to farook's mother, the other half apparently has been accounted for. what they were planning to do with that money, we're not fight

sure. perhaps they were trying to stockpile some weapons. but parentally that's not been confirmed. finally, we learned that farook's neighbor, 24-year-old enrique marquez, the guy who converted to islam two years ago, he apparently purchased the two assault weapons that were used in the attack. that was transferred to farook, apparently that may have been against the law and authorities are continuing to investigate that connection. alisyn, back to you. >> dan, still as more information comes in, the mystery just increases. thanks so much, dan. donald trump's rivals say he's fueling hate by calling for a ban on muslims. but his hard-core supporters completely disagree. hear what they believe, next on "new day." ♪ have you ever thought, "i could never do that"?

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what do donald trump's supporters think of his proposal to keep muslim out of the u.s.? i sat down with some of them at the historic palace theater in stanfo

stamford, connecticut and their responses are fascinating. what do you think about donald trump's latest comments that muslims should be banned from coming to the u.s.? michael, let me start with you. >> yes. i think that he is pretty much trying to protect the american people. muslims should not be considered the only people to be concentrated on. it should be anyone that needs a background check. i think he's correct by saying we need to screen people. we need to make sure our borders are secure. >> the reason it's controversial is that he singled out muslims. he didn't say terror suspects. he said muslims. what do you think of that? >> i don't think that's unreasonable to do. because we need to make sure that the people here are safe. and until we can figure out who is allowed into the country and coming in and if we don't know who they are, we need some sort of protection. >> billy, what his critics say it one of the founding principles of this country is religious freedom. we don't have a religious test at the borders.

what do you think? >> if we want it as a nation, we could keep everybody out of the country, theoretically, legally, there's no reason we couldn't do that. it's not like due process or constitutional rights apply to people outside of the country coming into the country. >> immigration is not a right. it's a privilege. you have to meet certain criteria to be able to immigrate to the united states. it seems that the majority of terror activities have taken place over the past couple of decades, more specifically, since 9/11, have been perpetrated by people of the islamic faith. and so i would say that when you see the propensity of terrorist attacks being committed by christians and buddhists, we start blocking them as well. >> are the rest of you comfortable that there would be a religion test, he's painting with a broad brush against muslims. >> when jews come to america or christians come to america, they're not trying to re-invent america. islam, they are in conflict with our constitution.

what he's trying to do is put the burden on congress to step up to the plate or our president who doesn't seem willing to, to stand up and say, look, we need a process in place that's going to protect american citizens. that's the first job of our government is to protect american people, not to protect someone from the middle east or from germany or wherever it is. it's america. and our politicians have been placating islam, not kauing it what it is when there are acts of terrorism. >> it's about time that we stop being politically correct in this country and we start talking about the real issues and the real issues is they're coming to get us. it is terrorists that are coming to get us in america. they're not going to be happy until they take over this country. and we have to be under sharia law. i'm not going to bow down to that. >> i was brought up lebanese american christian. my parents were born here. my grandparents immigrated from what was then syria, now lebanon. and i have to tell you, my personal opinion, this broad

brush that's been painted of all muslims, if i was going to say there was a flaw, i would just say that could be the problem. i think there's a definite group of the terrorist groups and there's definite groups that we know who they are but to paunt the broad brush and to just -- and to include all muslims, i have to say that most muslims i know are loving, fine, outstanding, some of our best doctors, some of our smartest engineers, some of our most highly educated educators and people in this country. >> the broad brush stroke makes you uncomfortable? >> it always does, of course. like i would with any race or religion or particular group, i never would want to paint a broad brush. >> does anyone have muslim friends. >> i do. >> i go to southern new hampshire university. it's a very diverse campus. i have muslim friends who have come to me and they're like, i am really, really -- like i

really enjoy being in the united states. i see that there are good muslims. there's always going to be good and bad. it's what we're trueing to figure out. i believe donald trump will figure out, is how we can defeat this evil and make sure it doesn't get into our country. >> what's your experience with muslims? >> they were my co-workers. i used to work at cvs. i worked there for six years. there was a pharmacist mohamed that started working. i usually always have a cross around my neck. he always used to look at it and he would ask me questions about my faith and then in the beginning he was very cold to me. then through conversation and working together, we actually became friends and he showed me all his pictures when he got engaged and it was a real change. >> there you go. your story and your story and your story, doesn't that say that we can integrate? we are a melting pot, that muslims should be able to have the american dream? why doesn't that tell you that donald trump has gone too far? >> he's not making a statement that they're never going to be allowed in america.

what he's trying to do is get congress and/or our president to come up with a plan to be able to vet them so they in fact process where we can make sure that we're not bringing in islamist terrorists. >> okay. so let's talk about this and get some analysis. we want to bring back matt lewis and ron brownstein. ron, that was fascinating to me. because on an individual level, everybody has positive personal experiences and exchanges with co-workers, fellow students, with neighbors. but on a broad level, they're scared. of people coming in. >> right. i think you see how powerful the sense of siege is among donald trump supporters. i think if you were talking about undocumented immigrants you might have had a similar conversation. that he's voter see him saying things that no one else would say. the more outrageous he gets, the

more he convinces them. if one of the more center right candidates beats him next spring, you'll have disaffected and disappointed core vote her may be very uneasy with that outcome. >> yes, yes, yes. i'm so glad ron is touching on that. they said we're not going anywhere. they can try to get rid of donald trump. they can try -- the party establishment can try to shunt him aside. we're not going anywhere. that was a fascinating thing to hear. they're not just going to fade away. they believe -- they say we're a movement. >> what do you do, matt? you created it, not donald trump. people can point fingers a hundred different ways. give credit to trump for capturing the zitegeist out there. you preached fear, you have people afraid there's a huge monster out there. you've told them it's coming and no one can stop it. what do you do? >> i think there are multiple

factors that created the trump phenomenon including president obama's failure, i think, to take isis and terrorism as seriously as he might. but having said that, look, when i see this panel that you've collected, these are very intelligent and eloquent people. these are not rubes out there. they were more diverse an they have questions about trump but they still support him. and some of them were concerned that he painted with too broad of a brush. but that wasn't a deal breaker. >> one of them. >> they still supported him. i think the lesson we learned there, aside from the fact that it's not going away anytime soon, this is why republicans have to be very careful of a potential third party candidacy. >> matt, ron, thank you, again, for the analysis. always great to talk to you. >> it's also interesting how, yes, they're coming from a good place, these people. >> absolutely. >> they're really wrong about a lot of aspects of what islam is, what it is not.

they pretend that you get if here for free, like there's no vetting or screening. >> they think the vetting is not good enough. >> they don't think there's any. >> based upon the fiancee visa we just saw from the terror suspect that it's not good enough. what more example do you need? >> the least attacks in the country, in the world, the most stopped, the best vetting, the best security. >> he this can hold up a bunch of attacks to show you what's happened since 9/11. they can tell you it's too many. >> it's certainly too many. to say there's no vetting is naive at best. >> they have their research. they have what they base their belief system on. you know, this is -- >> syrian refugees being kept out of the country. >> i was heavily vetted when i immigrated here. this was 17 years ago. that's the big question. >> all right. >> it's easy to do. >> we have a lot to talk about. >> not enough vetting. you'll believe it. still ahead, we turn to chicago, another potentially explosive video of a police shooting there in that city could be released soon.

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embattled chicago mayor rahm emanuel is set to deliver a highly anticipated speech about police conduct to members of his city council this morning. this comes as the city braces for the possible release of yet another video of a controversial police shooting pending a judge's order. cnn's rosa flores has more. >> reporter: first there was the shocking video of laquan mcdonald. and then ronald johnson. both shot and killed by chicago police. cases that have caused outrage. but there's a third police shooting and video that few have seen. we've talked to two men who have seen it and they say it shows, in detail, the killing of black teen cedric chapman by a chicago police officer in 2013. >> he was running as fast as he possibly can away from the police and he is shot. >> reporter: brian kaufmann represents chapman's family and has been fighting for the release of the video.

>> approximately three to four sections elapses and the first bullet is fired. and he is dead within eight seconds of getting out of his car and running. >> they saw the commotion, heard the gunshot. >> reporter: lorenzo davis analyzed the video second by second and says this case cost him his job. >> we felt like it was unjustified shooting. >> reporter: davis, the review for the city agency that investigates all officer-involved shootings called the independent police review authority or ipra. >> they pulled up alongside of that car. >> reporter: chapman was running away from the stolen car he was driving when a police officer opened fire. >> chapman was running along here. when he got to roughly this location, i would say, there was a gunshot. >> reporter: chatman was carrying a black iphone box in his hand. the shooting officer would later say he thought it was a gun. >> he did not shout a warning. he did not use his radio to give

direction of flight. he simply pointed his gun until he had a clear shot. >> reporter: lorenzo davis says when he deemed the shooting unjustified, his boss at ipra asked him to change it to justified. when he refused, he says he was fired. ipra signed another investigator and called part of davis's report glaringly biased, saying there was a significant discrepancy between davis's findings and what the facts of case actually show. the officer who shot chatman was exonerated. >> they don't want to say that the shooting was wrong. >> reporter: why is that? >> because then it makes it look like some police officers are killers. and they -- right. they don't want it to look that way. >> reporter: rosa flores, cnn, chicago. >> familiar questions and a familiar search for answers. we'll stay on that story. san bernardino, why weren't the terrorists there on the

radar for law enforcement despite planning an attack three years ago, all these communications, it seems to get broader and broader who they were working with. we have new reporting about all those different aspects and we ask who should have known, next. ok, we're here.

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new information out of san bernardino. investigators now believe the terrorists were planning an attack as long as three years ago. officials tell cnn he, the male killer, and a second unknown person, even had a location in mind. let's break this down with tom fuentes, a cnn law enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director. thank you for being with us this morning. as you aggregate the reporting for this, should this guy and/or his wife have been flagged? >> good morning, chris. i think the problem is going to be to determine if it was an intelligence failure, did the authorities have the information and miss it? were they told, were they informed? was there a reasonable

intelligence gather that should have caused them to open a case and look further into him? we don't know that yet. in hindsight going back to the case and finding individuals that he may have been in contact then, that may be, that we're finding those kind of things. things like borrowing thousands of dollars, that's not illegal. that's something that would be reported. people have financial privacy. there's financial privacy laws that prevent banks and credit organizations from even providing that information without a reason to provide it. you know, for a subpoena or court order, things like that. >> what else should be done? what else does it teach us about what else should be done? you have a growing movement in the country to ban everybody of this faith because we're afraid that we are powerless against this threat. when you look at something like this, it does seem like you're powerless. what else needs to be done? >> i think that we're still going to have to determine what else needs to be done to see if there was something missed 0 are some law that could be changed that could do something about that. if people are afraid about

immigration and visas being issued, farook was born in chicago. he's not own a foreign-born imgrand. he was here. he was radicalized here in the united states. >> right. >> you know, that's over the internet. the attempts by the authorities to try to do something about the postings have proven to be almost impossible. if not impossible. isis is posting about 40,000 tweets a day. they're changing accounts as quick as they're shut down. and there's no slowing that down. there's been no slowing it down. as far as our relationships around the world, you know, the fbi has offices in every major muslim country. that means the law enforcement officials, intelligence officials they're working with are muslim. the people that are brought back are muslim. we banned them from coming back. the talk of this even is hurtful but if it actually went into effect, it would be a disaster. we would not get information --

>> more and more of the guys in your field and in the intelligence community are saying exactly that. we get our best stuff by working with the muslim community if that's where the terrorist base is. now you're threatening them, you're winding up scaring off your best information base. let me ask you something. the guy who bought the guns, not a muss almost by birth, muss almost by convert, perhaps. he bought these guns, gave them to the guy. very early on, investigators say we done the think he had anything to do with it. seems luke a rash decision. why hasn't he been picked up. >> how do we know that's been decided? >> the guys from your house, the fbi, were saying we don't think he has anything to do with it. >> they have a lot of information, as far as buying assault rifles and giving them to a buddy, that's been discussed and rejected by congress and everybody that, oh, no, we don't want the government to know if you buy an assault rifle because, quote, the jack-booted thugs will come take

it away from you. that's why you can buy one of these rifles, if you don't have a criminal record or been adjudged mentally ill, you can buy one with no problem. if you buy it, you can give it away, hand it to anybody you want to, which may be the case here. that's, again, taking advantage of very open laws to buy guns of military power without -- with impunity in our society. there's been no discussion seriously about changing that. >> right. the two big people on the radar, there's one unknown guy, the male terrorist was dealing with. you have the guy who gave him the gun and then you have the mom living in the house. that's the circle of intensity right now. tom fuentes, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> alisyn? >> up next, a special segment. we have three of our best foreign correspondents, they're here in studio to tell us what they're seeing and hearing on

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the house speaker and chair of the rnc say the proposal is unamerican. leaders from britain and france also fiercely condemning his plan. but this latest controversy isn't stopping trump. he's renewing his threat to run as an independent. meanwhile, a new cnn poll from cnn and wmur shows that trump is nearly doubled his lead in new hampshire. >> a bill to tighten restrictions on the nation's visa waiver program passing by an overwhelming margin in the house. it requires a visa for anyone from iraq, syria, iran and the sudan or anyone who's traveled there in the last five years. it also calls for better information sharing with countries allowing travel to the u.s. without a visa. attorney general loretta lynch announcing information sharing grepts with nearly four dozen countries to track suspected terrorists. lynch says interpol has 4,000 profiles on foreign extremists, provided by the new partnership. she's also expressing concern that data privacy legislation before the european parliament

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the fallout from donald trump's proposed ban on muslims is not stopping at the border. criticism coming from officials around the world. so let's get perspective from nic robertson, cnn's international diplomatic editor, based in london. clarissa ward is a senior international correspondent based everywhere, as far as i can tell and nick paton walsh is a correspondent based in the middle east and beirut. great to have all of you in studio. what a special occasion for us.

clarissa, you're the newby among this group. let me start with you. you're everywhere, global, you've been roaring from everywhere since you got to cnn a couple months ago. what are you hearing? are you hearing things about this presidential race and donald trump on the ground? >> we're hearing a lot, i this i, about donald trump, particularly about these comments which we've seen, you know, they've been dismissed i think as arrogant and ignorant and absurd even by most europeans and middle eastern people who i have spoken to about them. what i found really interesting when i was doing a cross-section and chatting with people from different backgrounds and different walks of different life in different countries, the one group that seemed to embrace donald trump's comments are isis. i spoke to an isis fighter who said to me, you know, fight simply, clarissa, he is just saying the truth that americans hate muslims and it's time for muslims living in the west to accept that. he went on to say that the

coconuts need to understand that they're not welcome in the west. by the coconuts he's using essentially a popular offensive term that isis followers use for western muslims, essentially the idea being brown on the outside but white on the inside. this speaks to the isis narrative, that is not possible for muslims and westerners to co-exist peacefully, muslims living in west need to make hejda or migrate to the caliphate. >> this is what people feared would happen, isis would use it, you because you have your ear to the ground always have the direct communication about this. nic, you're based in the middle east. what's the feeling there? >> the middle east is looking for american leadership, those who care to listen to what the u.s. said. we had a keynote speech from barack obama on sunday evening. who's talking about that now? that's absolutely vanished. the only thing being discussed now is this fight remarkably offensive notion. those in the middle east who

look to the united states as a symbol of better ideology will be deeply offended by this. they may understand this as a radical part of the wing, frankly, similar to the same radical ideology as isis is to the muslim faith. it's not going to assist anybody on a moderate faith. >> you're based in london. i have an interesting statement from the london mayor yesterday. he says, crime has been falling steadily, both in london and in new york. the only reason i wouldn't go to some parts of new york is the real risk of meeting donald trump. >> what you're hearing from the british establishment is part of that. you heard it from the british prime minister yesterday, the metropolitan police reacting to the metropolitan police who patrol the streets of london who work in the forefront of counterterrorism in the uk responding to donald trump saying that it wasn't safe, there were no-go areas for the british police.

what you're hearing from the british establishment and undertones of it as well from other european countries is a concern that a prime ally, the united states, is perhaps not sharing the same values towards all cultures and faiths. that would be a worry in the united states. i would imagine, because as al lies we work together sa combat isis right now. imagine this, last week, david cameron is having a hugely important vote in the house of parliament. is britain going to join the united states in air strikes inside syria? >> yes. >> imagine this speech had been a week earlier. donald trump's words had come a week earlier. there was a significant portion of the british parliament that was concerned about going to war in syria. if they thought that they were getting into bed with a partner that had these, apparently on the surface anti-muslim values, that's not the united states values but that's what britain hears.

that's why you have the reaction from the british prime minister yesterday, from the mayor, from the senior police officer in london saying, wait a minute, this is a concern. >> go ahead. >> the broader issue, though, people in the middle east or around the world don't make the distinction between a person who's trying to be a candidate for a party and the broader notion of what american political society is thinking. they aren't necessarily able to say this man is being condemned by everybody else. he's dominating the narrative as incorrection as he is. still, that flavor permeates much of the discussion about what america is thinking right now. >> the republican debate is what's coming across. the democrat ic moment seems to be a shoo-in. >> clarissa, we were together in paris, obviously after the terror attack there. chris talked to donald trump yesterday. let me play a moment where he talked about what's going on in paris and get you to respond. listen to this. >> i have people that are

friends living in paris. they want to leave. they're petrified. >> what are they doing, banning all muslims? >> let's see, maybe they'll have to do something. >> that's not even on the table. >> i'm talking about a temporary situation until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on, chris. >> he says i have friends in paris. they want to leave, they're petrified. that was not the feeling we got on the streets in paris. you're there all the time. >> of course there's a sense of fear, not just in paris but other countries in the west, that there is a vulnerability that these types of attacks are likely to keep happening. it would be ridiculous to say there's no fear. i do think so. i do think that in paris people have a fundamentally different understanding of what is responsible for the rise of isis. they don't look at this as being simply a product of a fanatical interpretation of islam. they look at it in its historical and geopolitical context. they look at u.s. and western foreign policy in iraq and afghanistan. they look at drone strikes and understand this is part of a

larger, more complex picture. i interview for "60 minutes" some time ago, the former head of the french version of the cia. he said to me, this isn't just a problem of islam or this isn't just a problem of the middle east. the problem is ours. this is part of our society. i think there's a real sense of yur, a growing understanding, this is a social issue, historical issue. >> we look at the elections over the weekend in paris, the national party has done exceptionally well. >> the right wing party. >> it mirrors some of what's happening here. you guys are the best. thank you for sharing your excellent reporting with us. great to have you here in new york. >> thank you. we're following a lot of news this morning. let's get right to it. >> you know how you make america great again? tell donald trump to go to hell. >> a temporary situation until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. >> this is not conservatism. >> the blow hards out there just

saying stuff. this is serious business. >> do you think there's a chance that he would choose a third party run? >> i do. because he knows he has the people behind him. >> the male terrorist was planning an attack three years ago. >> within a specific target was even considered. >> the family's lawyer insists no one in the family knew about how farook and malik became radicalized. defense secretary ash carter testifying on political this morning. isis's global reach is glow growing. >> our threshold for collateral damage increases with the value of the target we're going after. this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> good morning, everyone. welcome back to your "new day." donald trump hitting back at his critics who fiercely oppose his proposed ban on muslims coming to the u.s. the white house says trump should be disqualified from the presidency. and that's some of the lighter criticism, coming from both parties today, even leaders

overseas. >> trump is standing by his words, insisting to critics he's not a bigot. he's just responding to an obvious threat. and repeating, again, that if the gop is not fair to him, he could run as an independent. all this just six days ahead of the last republican debate of the year. right here on cnn. let's begin our coverage with cnn political reporter sara murray, live in washington. sara, what have you got? >> good morning, chris. that's right. amid outrage on both sides of the aisle from donald trump's proposal and his threats to run as an independent, we're also getting another data point that shows you just how far you'd have to knock trump down. that's our cnn/wmur poll out of new hampshire. it shows trump with 32% support. his closest rival is marco rubio at 14% support. despite his wide lead, that's not stopping republican leaders who have stayed out of the race so far from criticizing trumple over the last couple days. >> reporter: even in the face of fierce condemnation from his

party elders. >> this is not conservatism. >> reporter: gop presidential hopeful donald trump refusing to back down on his proposal, banning muslims from entering the u.s. >> what was proposed yesterday is not what this party stands for. and more importantly, it's not what this country stands for. >> reporter: the chairman of the republican national committee joining the chorus, telling the "washington examiner" i don't agree, we need to aggressively take on radical islamic terrorism. but not at the expense of our american values. one gop lawmaker issuing a call from the house floor for the billionaire to drop out. >> it is time tore donald trump to withdraw from the race. >> reporter: trump unfazed by comparisons to hitler on the front page of the philadelphia daily news. >> i'm talking about a temporary situation. >> the preliminaryplication of what he said, if we were

enforcing our immigration laws appropriately at this point in time we might have a better handle on this. >> reporter: on tuesday, widespread rejection from his gop rivals. >> he's a race baiting, xenophobic religious bigot. he doesn't represent my party. he doesn't represent the values that the men and women who wear the uniform are fighting for. you know how to make america great again, tell donald trump to go to hell. >> it's not about the blow hards saying stuff. that's not a program, that's not a plan. this is serious business. >> reporter: trump's proposal, so widely panned that even hillary clinton and dick cheney are united in opposition. >> this is both a shameless and a dangerous idea. >> this whole notion that somehow we can say no more muslims, ban a whole religion goes against everything we stand for and believe in. >> reporter: the white house also issuing sharp criticism. >> the fact is what donald trump said yesterday disqualifies him from serving as president. the question now is about the rest of the republican party.

and whether or not they're going to be dragged into the dust bin of history with him. texas senator ted cruz refuses to criticize donald trump. he says he disagrees with donald trump but won't criticize him. of course he wants to win over donald trump supporters, as well as ben carson's, marco rubio's and everyone else's. back to you, chris. >> the part that is the most real is the fear and what will be done to address it to make the americans comfortable going forward. let's bring in angus king from maine. he's on both the intelligence and armed services committee. senator, let's do this as the dialogue that's going on around the country right now. okay? the american people are afraid, they are afraid with good reason. they just had an attack in san bernardino, it seems like there could be more. it seems like you missed these guys in san bernardino.

you should have been able to pick up on them. why should they feel they are safe and the way we vet people works? >> i think you start with the right place, chris, to try to say that people aren't uneasy, afraid, concerned is just not true. i think you have to respond to that. and certainly what happened in san bernardino, terrible thing, was it preventible? i think that's a stretch, because it's really a question of how much are we willing to give up of what makes us americans to have 100% total security? the fbi over the past summer arrested something like 60 people involved in these kinds of plots. they've got 900 investigations going on around the country in every state. they're working literally around the clock. i met with high-ranking security official yesterday. but you know, this is a problem that you can be 99% effective and there still could be something like what happened in san bernardino.

i think, i guess we'll get to talking about donald trump's proposal because everybody is talking about american values. i think they're absolutely right. there's a real national security problem with what he's saying and i think that's really where the focus ought to be. >> the intel community says by the way, you can't keep everybody out. people will always be able to get in. if you make me spend my time on a ban and keeping people out, i'll be able to do less vetting about the risks that exists in the country. that gets down to the practicalities. i think the ban goes to something bigger, deeper than that about who we are. right now at our core we are afraid. it makes sense to people, i know how to get rid of the threat, get rid of the people who are trying to kill me, and that are the muslims. do you think you've done a good enough job of explaining what the threat is and who it is. >> i think the president took an important step the other night. i wish he had done it somewhat earlier. in any case, here's the national

security problem, chris. with what donald trump proposed. it's an explicit, stated strategy of isis to drive a wedge between the west and the vast majority of muslims who are moderate and who are pro western and pro american. they want to have people like donald trump say what he did. i said the other night, he was a gift to isis, because that's exactly what they want to do. they want us to ostracize our muslim population and push him toward radicalism. we're playing into their hands. it's the same reason we shouldn't be sending troops to syria. what they really want, you've read their ideology and theology, they're trying to provoke, they're trying to poke us in the eye and provoke us to declare war on them and then they're going to say, look, the west hates us, america hates us. we have armerican troops on ara

soil, muslim soil. aside from the question of our values, what donald trump said is contrary to our national security. he's playing right into their hands. we can't do that. >> there is something that is offensive to common sense when you say, you know what the answer is, let them in. yes, that's what they want, keep them out, so let's let them in. when people feel that you're letting in the wrong people and you don't know who you're letting in. >> no. that's where -- nobody is saying open the borders, let anybody in at any time, any place. for example, to get in as a refugee, it takes 18 months to two years, a series of background checks, biometric data. >> he says the fbi can't use the data base on the syrian refugees. that's all they needed to hear. if the fbi can vet them, they shouldn't come in. >> an increased level of vetting based upon real data bases is essential. syrian refugees or refugees from these war-torn countries in any

case. let's focus on the real issue. the bigger issue of people getting in is the so-called visa waiver program. we're talking about 2,000 or 3,000 syrian refugees. last year there were 20 million entrants into the united states under the visa waiver program from 38 different countries. that's why i think that's the right target in terms of our -- what we should be ding and in fact, believe it or not, congress did something yesterday on a bipartisan basis, the house passed a bill tightening up the visa waiver program for people who have been to these countries. we need to separate what makes us feel good from what makes us actually safer. >> then are politicians having it both ways? you're yelling at trump saying don't say a ban, we're better than that. doesn't the bill say exactly that? that we will ban muslims from certain parts of the world? >> no. it simply says if you've been to

those countries, you have to get a visa. it doesn't say you can't get in. it says you have to go through a much more rigorous process. the visa waiver program is just what it says it is. it's a waiver. you don't have to go through interviews, background checks. you just get on an airplane and come. we're talking about raising the bar. it's not a ban. it is raising the bar. that's prudent. and, again, i don't think that plays into the hands of isis the way this talk of we're not going to let in any muslims and earlier he talked about, you know, bugging or monitoring mosques and making a registry of muslims. that's the kind of thing that is going to drive these people away from us and toward the radicals. we're talking about a small slice of islam, chris. i don't know whether it's 100,000, a million, but it's a relatively small slice of the 1.6 billion muslims in the world. do we really want to push them away from us and into the camp of these brutal characters in

syria and iraq? no, we don't want to do that. >> it's a good question because it's hard to look at it that way when you're afraid. when you're afraid you want control and when you want control you want limiting as. that's what people are asking for. >> i fully understand that. i understand that belief and feeling. that's where leadership comes in and where people have to say, okay, we're going to calm down and focus on the real problem, not throw gasoline on the fire of fear. >> understood. we look forward to seeing what changes will be made that can help aswage the fears of american people. >> thank you, chris. we'll have christine todd whitman and congressman andre carson and senator tom cotton. different points of view on one problem, how do we stay safe? alisyn? other news to tell you about, now there are new details about the san bernardino shooters. officials tell cnn that syed farook may have been planning an attack in california three years

ago. he apparentlidowned his wife in pledging allegiance to isis. cnn's dan simon is live in san bernardino. what have you learned, dan? >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. we are told that farook may have been planning an attack three years ago, 2012, somewhere in california a law enforcement tell source tells cnn. we're told that a specific target may have been considered. there are terror related arrests in the area. apparently during that time and he may have gotten spook. second, in addition, we're learning that farook took out a bank loan for $28,500 in november. what that money was used for turns out half of it was given to farook's mother, the other half apparently used for household expenses. investigate ares do not believe it was given to them by an outside source to fund the plot. the loan is not considered significant value in this investigation. but it may suggest the pair was short on money because they were purchasing a stockpile of weapons. and finally, we learned that farook's neighbor, a guy named

enrique marquez, a 24-year-old, who converted to islam purchased the two assault weapons used during the attack. that may be illegal in california, just transferring those weapons. authorities continue to investigate that connection. marquez checked himself into a mental facility following the attack. michaela, back to you. >> thank you for the new details, dan. defense secretary ash carter is set to testify on capitol hill later this morning. he will address the u.s. strategy against isis in iraq and syria. amid growing questions about whether the strategy is working. pentagon correspondent barbara starr is live in washington with more for us. good morning, barbara. >> reporter: good morning, michaela. this will be ash carter's first appearance since the san bernardino attacks, since donald trump's statements calling for a ban on people of the islamic faith entering this country. the pentagon, very much trying to stay out of the political fray, all that officials are saying here is anything regarding trump, anything that

would play into the hands of the isis narrative would be counterproductive to national security. but around the pentagon hallways, it is no secret this morning that ash carter really isn't very anxious to go to this hearing. he feels he has said what he has to say about the u.s. strategy and he knows he's walking into a buzz saw, the chairman, republican john mccain of arizona, very much a critic of the isis strategy of the administration. carder will be called upon to defend it. he is going to talk -- carter's going to talk about special forces, about the step up of air strikes, about taking territory back from isis on the ground in iraq and syria. but the bottom line, there's a new intelligence assessment we've reported on here at "new day" that isis's power is growing around the world, that they are inspiring people globally to join their apocalyptic vision. that is something that air strikes may not be able to deal with. alisyn? >> okay, barbara, thanks so much

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donald trump creating an uproar, prompting the rnc chairman, reince priebus to rebuke him. i sat down with some of trump's supporters to find out. reince priebus has just come forward and condemned donald trump for his muslim remarks. reince priebus, the head of the rnc as you all know. >> yes. >> says i don't agree. we need to aggressively take on radical islamic terrorism but not at the expense of our american values. >> time to get rid of him. >> time to get rid of runs priebus? >> exactly. >> given that the republican rivals have come out against

what he said on the ban of muslims, reince priebus, the head of the party has come out, do you think there's a chance that he would choose a third party run? >> i do. because he knows he has the people behind him. they feel very threatened by trump. >> he doesn't fall into their game or they can't put trump in a box. and that's what we love about him. all the trump supporters, we love that he's unvarnished and he's just for the people. >> the republican establishment hates trump because they're not going to be able to call the white house when donald trump is president and push their way in because they gave money or they set up a meeting or set him up with donors. they're going to lose all of this influence. there's huge money riding against him on this. donald uses the threat of going third party because he's trying to slap them into line and keep them from going after him too aggressive. >> donald trump is a master of leverage. he'll do whatever advances the ball for himself the most expediently. whether that means an

independent run or maintaining a steady position in the gop, he's going to do it. but the people are sick and tired of being underrepresented or not represented at all. >> john, you're next. >> i don't think he'll leave the republican party. because he's doing so well in it right now, and frankly, when the national chair and all the other state chairs and all the other candidates, they know this is the primary. and they know that there's an awful lot at stake there. there's an awful lot the money and power. there's an awful lot of influence that they are at stake at losing. i think this is unprecedent where had they've had a candidate that's been number one from the beginning, the establishment, the leaders of the party don't want to actually represent the party. >> donald trump signed an agreement to not run as a third party. obviously implicit in that agreement is that the republican party wouldn't fight against him. by attacking somebody within a republican primary, being donald trump, he's gotten no obligation

to fulfill his end of the contract. they've breached their contract. if he runs as an independent, if these republicans think that we're going to fall back in line, like we've done for decades, they're wrong. >> what happened to reagan's 11th commandment? there's that gop rnc knife in the back. they have no place attacking any one of their candidates. and reince priebus just showed his true colors. it's like goliath and david, it's like the prince and the dragon. you know, here's trump, you know, wielding a sword and you have a huge flippant machine of a dragon coming after him. who do you think the people are going to get behind? >> the gop cannot control him, that's what they don't like about him. they can control bush. they can control rubio. they can control all of them. for them to come out and to go, back stab him like this, you know what, i'm done with the

republican party. i don't think he's beginning to leave the party but if mr. trump was to go independent, i will bring all my people -- i'm not going to send a message to congress. we're going to send a message to the senate. we're going to send a message to the democrats and the republicans and this president when he leaves. >> most all of donald trump's republican rivals have spoken out against this, saying that they find his language too strong and over the top. even dick cheney has said that he finds that unamerican. let me play for you what lindsey graham said on our air. >> he's a race baiting xenophobic religious bigot. he doesn't represent my party. he doesn't represent the values of the men and women who wear the uniform are fighting for. >> interesting. >> i'm appalled. >> donald trump has huge support in the military. >> he has no support whatsoever. he's so low in the polls, you can't even find him anymore. i wish he would just get out. he's part of the problem. he is the problem in washington. >> yes. >> and the establishment.

>> he was part of the gang of eight with john mccain and they refused to close the borders. they want to let anybody come in. if our borders were closed at this point in time, and we had a good program in place, then we wouldn't be looking at this problem right now. so you know what, lindsey graham, take your bags, go home. you've insulted me and you're an elected official. shame on you. >> amen. >> there's a reason he is where he is in the polls. basically nobody really agrees with him. he typifies the republican party's impotence in this country. the reason that many of us are supporting donald trump is because we're tired of seeing the, at best, impotence of the republican party in this country. >> when lindsey graham says that donald trump doesn't represent the republican party, donald trump represents the american party. the problem with the republican party, they've betrayed american value. these people represent their own agenda, their own -- >> establishment. >> their own desire to use the political machine as a stair tep

-- step to their own success. >> joining us is cnn senior political commentator and former senior adviser to president obama, david axelrod. thanks so much for being here. the more the gop attacks donald trump, the more his supporters dig in and like him and support him. >> absolutely. the essence of his appeal is that his anti-establishment, he's appealing to people who are very angry about what's going on in washington. they think the republican party has been a part of that. and so, yes, he will use this to his advantage. >> i mean, they feel abandoned by what was previously their party, most of them, some of them are independents. but they feel that politicians have promised them the world. they promised them they would overturn obamacare. they promised they would cut taxes and tackle the debt and deficit. they think donald trump is the answer. isn't this an interesting time. the more the republican rivals come out and tray to take the party back and try to take the front-runner status back, the more it backfires. >> the question is, how large is this base?

and that's what nobody knows. donald trump has a solid 25% to 30% of the vote. i know it's higher in some polls, a little lower. that's about where it is. the question is, as his base gets stronger, does he drive potential voters for him away who might come to him later? he's doing well in a field of 14. republican leaders are gambling. when the field dwindles, that his support will be less meaningful. >> third party run, is it possible he could win as a third party candidate? you know the math. explain the math and if this could ever work. >> the system doesn't really -- isn't really set up for a third party candidacy. ross perot but a large amount of money behind his own candidacy. he was a strong candidate, he did well there in the debates, and he got 19% of the vote. one of the things i've always questioned about trump for all of his lavish praise of his own success, i don't know that he has the resources or the will to put resources into an independent campaign to the

degree that it would cost to run a serious independent candidacy. >> david, stick around. david axelrod will be back with us in a few minutes to talk about how all of this is impacting the larger 2016 race. we'll also have more with trump supporters in our next hour. we're now less than a week away from the next cnn republican debate. it's the final showdown of the year. coverage begins on tuesday at 6:00 p.m. eastern for the undercard debate and then the main event at 8:30 eastern, only here on cnn. keep it here. michaela? >> i predict they'll have a few things to say at that debate. >> a 2350u things to talk about. >> many republicans have raised anger over donald trump's comments. will the gop join forces to beat him? we'll ask that question of former new jersey governor christine todd whitman. we'll get her take, ahead. when used at the first sign. without it the virus spreads from cell to cell. only abreva penetrates deep

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president whitman's strategy group. donald trump has a point. we're not perfectly vetting people, obviously one of the terrorists in san bernardino came in on a fiancee visa. so what do you make of his suggestion to temporarily ban muslims from coming into the u.s.? >> i think it's counterproductive. right now we still make mistakes, people still come through with all the best intelligence we have. i don't think we're sharing with the rest of the world what we need to. >> why not shut it down? >> that's not going to solve the

problem. we are a country of immigrants. you have people coming in. we want them here. we want them here because we want what they can provide and give to our country. and they come here for good and positive reasons. donald trump keeps citing the -- what fdr did during the second world war in intering the japanese. we saw that as a huge mistake, one of the best of the units that fought for europe was a japanese unit they let in toward the end. people are not defined solely by their religion. if you start on this jihad of its own, identifying muslim, if you're muslim, you're automatically bad, you'll drive other people into the campus saying this is just wrong and we're going to take it out on you. language shapes behavior. that's what scares me about his language. >> this is left the rains in a pickle trying to figure out what to do about him. donald trump pointed out what they usually do is follow his lead. that's what we've seen so far in this race.

>> i don't know that we can say they follow his lead. he is not the republican party. right now he is defining it. that is the issue for the rains. he is who people think of when they say republican and that to me is -- i worry about it. it's a tragedy. it shouldn't be because he is on an ego trip and the language he's using is extremely dangerous. i'm worried that we'll see people take action, think he is giving them approval to act out against. the head of the college in virginia, who encourage his students, everyone go outç and buy a gun, if they saw muslims to do something about it. that is just -- that's just wrong. it's against what this country stands for and it's certainly against what the republican party stands for. >> when i say people are following his lead, his republican rivals have sometimes taken a page out of his playbook and he recognizes that. let me play for you what donald trump told barbara walters about this last night. >> the worst thing that's ever happened to isis, the people in my party fully understand that.

they're running against me. for the most part they have no poll numbers. i'm leading by a lot. they get it. they're trying to get publicity for themselves. when i came out against illegal immigration, everybody thought the same thing. two weeks later everybody was on my side, including the members of my own party. >> to his point, he starts the conversation and often his republican rivals then pick up the conversation and follow his lead. something feels different about these muslim comments. what do you think the party is going to do with donald trump? >> well, you've seen it already. you've had people who have stayed out, the head of the republican national committee, the leader in the house, who haven't been commenting on the presidential race finally saying this is too far. this is the kind of language that's extremely damaging. not just to the party. we have to think beyond party. think about this country and care about this country. and this kind of language is enormously eroding and very dangerous. >> i don't know if you just saw this little clip. i sat down with a bunch of

donald trump supporters yesterday and they are passionate. >> they are. he's tapped a vein. no question. first of all, if you look at your history and read your hissry in the leadup to the second world war, this is the kind of rhetoric that allowed hitler to move forward. you had people who were scared. the economy was bad. they want someone to blame. we're in a different situation because we have seen that there is a -- we're in a radical -- we have a war going on in a sense, a different kind of war than we've ever faced before. there's a group of people out there, they're not all muslims. it's not just muslims. it's radicalized muslims, terrorists, they're different than the average muslim shall we say? because they have a passion. they're not going to be satisfiedç until they see shar law all across the world. look at russia. putin having to do rethink. i hope the president is quietly sirting down, we need a more visible effort to sit down with our all lies, including the arab

countries, including russia, saying look, guys, they're after all of us. we need to share intelligence. we need to have a policy where we're working together to try to address this. mr. putin if you are just going to continue to try to do away with only those who oppose assad, we're going to double down on the sanctions which are already causing him problems. i think you can get him to the table. if it were me, i'd want to see us create safe zone on the border of turkey in syria, saying we're going to protect you. we're working with the other allies on a no-fly zone. we can't just impose one on an independent country. you can't do that. do it with others. then keep those people safe but train the men that are there and the women who want to go back and take back their countries. they're the only ones who can do it. we can't do it. but to just say we're beginning to stop all muslims is not addressing the problem and is, i this i, driving people into their camp because it is an attack on a religion. >> christine todd whitman, great

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the republican attacks on democrats suddenly coming to a halt because the party's focusing on one of its own. donald trump is taking heat from top state and national party officials. his other candidates in that field, they're all going after him because they say suggesting a ban of all muslims is wrong. key timing here, we got the debate coming up in just six days to discuss it. let's bring back former senior adviser to president obama, david axelrod. ax, the problem for them is this. you can go after donald trump but you cannot invalidate the fear that motivates his base an as alisyn brilliantly pointed out with her voter pan, that's how they see anything you say about trump. how do you get around it?

>> i think it's a very awkward two-step they're trying to perform. jeb bush is calling him unhinged. you have the chairman of the party saying it's unamerican what he's saying, then they ask would you support him? of course. they don't want to alienate the base of vote her support him, sort of theç old base. >> they hear you saying they're wrong to be afraid. >> i think fear is not just limited to them. i've said to my own party and to others that you can't go after fear mongers if you're not going after the fear. you have to address the fear. and i think that's good advice for both parties. but you know, the irony of what he said, i heard senator king on your air earlier and christie

whitman just said it here. he may not be the president but he is a propaganda bonanza for isis. that transcends presidential politics. >> there's this crazy paradox happening right now, the more controversial things that he says, the more provocative, they may be calculated by him but his numbers go up. we've never seen -- you tell me if we've seen something like this, somebody who gets in trouble even with his party, the numbers keep rising. >> the people who are supporting him are sick of conventional politics. the more outrageous he is, the more he looks, as he says, not politically correct. they say this guy is different. this guy is not going to play the same -- >> it's working. >> alisyn, the question is, really, how much it will grow. i have some -- there's no doubt in my view, you know, people said after paris, this is going to kill trump because people are going to want experience, they want hands on. not at all.

they're gravitating to a strong figure. that's why he's gotten a bull from it. he's still operating within certain parameters and his ability to grow, i think, is the question. is he driving away the others in the party? >> david, the thing is, we heard that when he was at 20%. then we heard that at 25%, then 28%, now 32%, he's now at 36%. the ceiling keeps climbing. >> not to in any way question the gospel of the cnn poll. there was a poll out yesterday that had him at 27%. it's not clear how much he's what is clear he's not losing support. >> the foundational argument isn't changing. i would submit it's not a paradox. he's the face of disaffection. when he pronounces on that disaffection, when he says whatever he says, it is going to feed his numbers. the trick for the people running against him is how do you own that energy? how do you own that feeling without invalidating it and

insulting it? i would suggest it's the same for the democrats. beenny is doing what he's doing. they have that similar feeling within their own base. the question is, what will be enough for people to come out and say i get why we're afraid, i'm afraid too. here's what i offer that is better than what you're hearing from trump. that's what will affect his numbers. i would argue we're not seeing that. >> yes. i think the point of the president's speech the other night was to try and calm people. i know there's been debate about whether he achieved that. you know, it's tough to be a rational man in the midst of irrational -- >> when somebody comes to you and you're afraid of something, they say, let's discuss why you're afraid. not helping in that moment. >> i hear you. i hear you. i understand that critique. it's also different when you're president of the united states. you actually have to do stuff. candidates have latitude to say things that have no relationship to reality. i'm not trying to mack a

partisan point, this is true of democrats as well, there aren't that many variations as to how we should approach that. we should do more of this or a little more of that. there's no other paradigm, this trump i'll take care of it thing is not real. >> here's what i hear his supporters saying. i just spoke to the most passionate ones yesterday. they're not going anywhere. they're not going to abandon him. >> the question isn't whether they abandon him. the question is whether the field whittles down and there's a coming together around another candidate. the rules of the party is such, after march 15th, 55% of the delegates will be chosen in many large northern states, including new york, california. it's winner take all after march 15th. there's an opportunity if the field whittles down for someone trump. in a field of 14, 30% looks pretty awesome. >> david axelrod, great to get your analysis. >> you come back to the same big

question, who is going to make americans feel they will be safe? it comes at a critical time. we're six days away from the last republican debate of the year, right here on cnn. coverage begins next tuesday, 6:00 p.m. for the undercard, 8:30 for the main event eastern. mick? there's word now that the male san bernardino terrorist was planning an attack some three years ago. how exactly did he slip through the cracks?

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could the man, the male shooter behind the 14 deaths in california been planning since 2012? u.s. officials now say he may have been plotting as long as three years ago. if he was a terrorist in waiting this long, was there an intelligence failure? i want to discuss in this a former assistant secretary at the department of homeland security. we're learning new details each day and hour.

investigators are focusing now or have been, taking a second look, third look even at this neighbor. this young man enrique marquez, lived next door to syed farook as boys. he's the one who purchased the guns that that were used. he gave the guns to him but they didn't transfer the ownership. so that wasn't sort of legally done. but interestingly he checked into some sort of mental facility after the attack. this is the challenge, right? for in terms of following the guns and also gun possession not united states, that somebody might get a gun legally, juliet. but what happens after that? >> is not known. and let's just go through the list. everything farook did as far as i can tell was pretty legal until the moment he killed a lot of people. the marriage, the acquisition of the guns, the money lone we've been talking about that ends you will being benign.

the presence in the united states and actual gun training if that's what occurred. none of these are going to trigger "this is a bad person." maybe find in hindsight you can say we're putting the pieces together. and the investigations unfold, i often remind people of the columbine cases. we had a notion of the two killers that ended up years later not being true. they are not goth. they were not dark. they were actually well integrated kids. these narratives about the mass killers tend to change on a daily if not monthly basis. i think we'll learn more about farook, the idea that the wife was the animator may actually end up not being true. but, you know, this is the challenge. i can't name a single unlawful thing he did until the moment he walks -- >> but it makes sense, right? because when we're trying to struggle to understand this, so that we can sleep at night, right? and figure out what category of fear we put this into?

we like to divide simple into to white hat/black hat, good guy/bad buy. and i like that you are telling us to be cautious. this is an investigation that takes time. and something to comes to point. yesterday there was a lot of reporting that made quite a bit about the money. and because that is one of the things investigator will trace. where the money to fund something like will come from. there was this loan farook took out in november. apparently now this is not considered significant. i want you to hear what one counterterrorism official told cnn yesterday though. he says what it indicates is he was financing this operation or his life for his afterlife for his mother using what is now wire fraud and bank fraud. >> from what we understand the loan itself was lawful. it didn't trigger any of the

financial policies or protocols that might have covered international money coming over to see where it was going and that he was planning, maybe as early as november, maybe a few years earlier to maybe leave something for his child or his family. but, you know, getting to this point of he was planning something for a period of time. what i can tell so far is there a mother, there is a neighbor and there is a father who all felt that something was off and did nothing. and so this idea of engaging people in coming forward. >> yes. >> notifying officials. in the absence of unlawful behavior, that is what we have to depend on. it is why people like me, outside of politics say all of this anti muslim talk is actually very dangerous. we need to engage communities. >> right. >> because otherwise this stuff is in the going to trigger investigations. >> you make a very good point. it takes that, it is sort of a

nuance see something, say something, right? >> right. >> i want to ask something about this couple. it is believed the female is long radicalized before she came on a fiancé visa in 2014 and they essentially tried to find a group to attach themselves to. this is again a variation on the lone wolf idea. it is sort of a freelance lone wolf in a way, no? >> it absolutely is. an inspired but nothing else aspect of how isis has been. i'm very curious and i know investigators are looking at this, what brought the two of them together and at what stage. >> yes. >> this is too good of a coincide that two people with potentially radical ideas then come together in a marriage. and whether our fiancé visa rules ought to not be, sort of,

you know, as easys they are and i know the department of homeland security is looking to tighten them up. but whether those people, the fiancés need to go through the normal clearances. we used to view it as the bye. if someone found someone to love then it must be benign. that is no longer true. so i would tighten up that surveillance. >> we always rely on you for these conversations. appreciate it a. thanks so much. we're following a lot of news. so let's get right to it. what tears at america's fabric more than rejecting an entire faith? >> until we figure this out we should have a ban. it is very simple. >> not what this party stands for. >> a shameful and a dangerous idea. >> what do you think? >> immigration is not a right. it is a bring. >> they have no right to anything here, really. >> a bank loan for $28 thousand

just days before the massacre. >> it does appear she was radicalized before she entered the u.s. >> the third attacker who blew himself up at the bat clan has now been identified. >> one of a group of about 8 or young people who went to syria. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn cammaraerota and michaela pereira. good morning. donald trump is being hit in all sides over his proposed ban on muslims. the white house, republican leaders, even officials in europe calling for him to abandon his white house bid. >> trump insisting he's not a bigot and pressing on. and his supporters feel more strongly than ever. we begin our coverage with sara murray live in washington with the latest. a lot happens every 24 hours. >> that is certainly true with

trump. he's facing outrage from nearly everywhere. we have a new poll showing he's still out front in new hampshire. leading with 32% support. his close competitor at marco rubio at 14%. even in the face of fierce condemnation from his party elder, gop presidential hopeful donald trump refusing to back down on his proposal banning muslims from entering the u.s. >> what was proposed is not what this party stands for. and more importantly it is not what this country stands for. >> the chairman of the republican national committee joining the chorus, telling the washington examiner, i don't agree. we need to aggressively take on radical islamic terrorism.

but not at the expense of our american values. one gop lawmaker issuing a call from the house floor for the billionaire to drop out. >> it is time for donald trump to withdraw from the race. >> trump unfazed by comparisons to hitler on the front page of the philadelphia daily news. >> i'm talking about a temporary situation until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. >> the implication of what he said is that if we were enforcing our immigration laws appropriately at this point in time we might have a better handle on this. >> on tuesday, wide spread rejection from his gop rivals. >> he's a race-baiting, xenophobic religious bigot. he doesn't represent my party. he doesn't represent the values that the men and women who wear the uniform are fighting for. do you know how you make america great again? tell donald trump to go to hell. >> it is not about the blow hards out there just saying stuff. that is not a plan.

this is serious business. >> trump's proposal so widely m panned that even hillary clinton and dick cheney are united in opposition. >> this whole notion goes against everything we stand for and believe in. >> and the white house also issuing sharp criticism. >> and the fact is what donald trump said yesterday disqualifies him from serving as president. the question now is about the rest of the republican party and whether or not they are going to be dragged into the dust bin of history with him. >> now even as so many republicans criticize donald trump, the republican party is in a tough spot. trump is still holding over their head this idea of an independent run. yesterday he took to social media to point out a poll that shows the majority of trump supporters would stick with him even if he did decide to run as an independent. back to you, chris.

>> let's bring in senator tom cotton. he's no stranger to the rogue move. he's gone out on edge before. serves on the committees. a war veteran. you fought our freedoms against the threat itself. are you surprised this morning so many men and women who want to be president of the united states are ducking the media? not trying to take on what trump said? not trying to take on what the fix is to america's fear? >> good morning chris. i disagree with donald's proposal. i think it would be counter productive to our security. i can't comment on every single presidential candidate. what i can do as the member of the senate is try to do everything i can to keep america safe. that is why i'm working to restore only soft tools that we took away from the nsa and the intelligence community and why i'm advocating a much stronger military presence and leadership in the fight. >> that is what people say is

anecdo anecdote. if you don't like what trump is suggesting, suggest something better. you are saying great, let's look back at the nsa again. a lot of push to the political limitations you believe has changed. the visa waiver program, targeting who can come in and how. you want to address those. how. >> earlier this summer the congress took away a very important tool from the national security agency, allowing them to collect telephone meta data. that is not the content of calls. that is the call records. the numbers, the times and the date and the duration. that is the proverbial hay tack that we search the needle for. there were reports overnight that farook may have planned attacks as far back as 2012. it is unclear under the new system if we even have the data we need to search through. that old program was safe.

it was effective. it was constitutional. it was fully briefed to congress. i think we should restore it or as close as we can to something like it. not using a new and untested system today when the threat is so great. >> so american man and woman comes to you and says you are making the case for my fear. we don't have the right tools. we can't really vet people who come into this country. we don't know where they are coming from. i'm not safe. what is your reply. >> well unfortunately we have a lot to be fearful about right now. as we saw in california and in paris. islamic state are on the march. they have shown the capability and intention to launch attacks against the west. that is why we have to make sure that we are giving the right tools to our intelligence agencies but also that we're taking the gloves off our military in syria and iraq. because ultimately you can't win the war against radical islamic terrorism on defense. you have to win on offense. you have to deny them safe haven

and decapitating their leadership. like we did in afghanistan after 9/11. >> if that is dire and you can't capture the movements well-being the borders, why shouldn't you ban all muslims when you know that that is at least the basis of your threat. >> chris, again, i think that kind of across the board ban would be counterproductive. ultimately while there is a military component there is more an ideological component we face. the forces that led to radical islam, the muslim brotherhood, al qaeda, can ultimately only be defeated by moderate muslims around the globe. promoting tolerance. and two weeks ago, had a female pilot --. the west has been calling for years for the forces of moderate islam to stand up to the small percentage but large number of

radical muslims all around the world. when countries do that we need to highlight it, celebrate it and we need to continue to encourage it. that is the way we'll defeat the ideological challenge we face in the long run. even if there is a military component in the short run. >> from the ideological to the practical. if things stay the way they are right now. donald trump may well have the best case for your nomination. would you back him and support his nomination. and what do you think happens if he goes to a third party? we well. >> well chris it is still pretty early in the campaign. >> not that early. >> i expect to support the republican nominee next year. i don't know who that will be. i know that hillary clinton was the architect of barack obama's foreign policy and that foreign policy has brought us to the perilous state we see in the world today. >> would you back donald trump if he's the nominee. and do you think he can beat

hillary clinton is this. >> i will support the republican nominee for president. i believe the republican nominee will beat hillary clinton because of her record. >> do you think that nominee will be donald trump? >> chris, i'm not a political pundit. i'm just a senator trying to do the right thing for arkansas and keep america safe. so i'm not going to hazard any guesses who's going to win next year. >> i'm not even getting close. you're too good. thank you very much for coming on "new day" to talk about actual things to do that will keep us safer and for weighing in on the dialogue around us. we're less than a week from the next cnn debate. the final showdown of 2015 and look at questions on the table. this is about the moral center of many erk and really what is going to motivate the strategy to keep us safe. couldn't have bigger questions. tuesday, 6:00 eastern, the under card debate. and the main event 8:00 eastern

only on cnn. to san bernardino. federal investigators telling cnn one of the shooters may have plotted an attack three years ago in california. officials also saying now that a facebook post suggests that boast attacker s pledged their allegiance to isis not just the wife as first reported. and it shows you how investigations need to take time because more details come to light. >> and this is still very early on in the investigation and we hope to learn more. but at this stage, new evidence coming to light here michaela suggesting that syed farook and someone else may have been plotting a few years ago to launch an attack in the california area. this evidence suggests that they had picked out a target but then got spooked and backed down and decided not to follow through with this plan. investigators are still trying to corroborate this new evidence that mazz come to light. but it is interesting in light of the fact that this was before farook had met his wife tashfeen

malik, who we just saw in that picture. so this was before then. and this was before isis had established or proclaimed that it had its caliphate. so clearly there were other terror groups who presumably played a role in influencing syed farook. we're also learning more about the couple's finances. we know investigators have been looking at that. scrutinizing that. syed farook had apparently in the weeks prior to the attack had taken out this bank loan, around $28 thousand. but at this point officials don't believe there is anything anyone helping the couple with providing the finances or a terrorist group providing the finances. we know some of the money from the loan was given to syed farook's mother and for other household items. but of course still under investigation, no conclusions have been reached yet. back to you. >> the money stuff is the really troubling -- i mean one of the many troubling things they are following with the investigation.

pamela. thank you for that. breaking on the paris terror investigations now. france now identifying the third suicide bomber from the bataclan concert hall. jim bitterman is live with more. what have you learned? >> his name is fouad mohamed aggad. 23 years old from strasburg area of france. born and educated in france. and now a third of the gunmen who have attacked the bataclan identified as frenchmen. they killed ninety of their fellow citizens. any case his story is depressingly familiar i think with some of the other terrorist attacks that have happened in europe and in france. basically at 23, he was recruited by the -- rather 21, he was recruited by a person who was recruiting people to go off to syria to fight. he and his older brother went along with a group of about six others from the strasburg area. they got there and almost

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what do donald trump's supporters think about keeping muslims out of u.s.? i sat down with some of them and they were eager to share feelings. what do you think about donald trump's latest comments about muslims should be banned from coming to the u.s. >> i think that he is pretty much trying to protect the american people. muslims should not be considered the only -- the only people to be concentrated on. it should be anyone that is -- needs a background check. i think he's correct by saying we need to screen people. we need to make sure our borders are secure. >> the reason it is controversial is he singled out muslims. he didn't say terror suspects h.

e said muslims. what do you think of that. >> i don't think that's unreasonable to do. because we need to make sure that the people here are safe. and until we can figure out who is allowed into the country and coming in. and if we don't know who they are, we need some sort of protection. >> one of the founding principles of this country is religious freedom. we don't have a religious test at the borders. what do you think. >> if we want as a nation we could keep everybody out of the country. neitherically, legally, morally. it is not like due process or constitutional rights apply to people outside of the country coming in. >> immigration is not a right. it is a privilege. and you have to meet certain criteria in order to be able to emigrate to the united states. and it just seems that the majority of the terror activities that have taken place over the past couple of decades and more specifically since 9 lefb have been perpetrated by people of the islamic faith.

so i would say that when you see the propensity of terrorist attacks being committed by christians or buddhists then we start blocking them as well. >> are you comfortable there would be a religion test that he's painting with a broad brush against muslims. >> when jews or christians come to america, they are not trying to reinvent america because they meld in. we are a jude owe christian nation. islam, they are in conflict with our constitution. he's trying to put the burden on congress to step up to the plate or our president who doesn't seem willing to say look we need a process in place that is going to protect american citizens. that is the first job of our government is to protect american people, not to protect someone from the middle east or from germany or wherever it is. it is america. and our politicians have been placating islam, not calling it what it is when there are acts of terrorism. >> and it is about time that we stop being politically correct in this country and we start

talking about the rel real issues. the real issues is they are coming to get us. terrorists are coming to get us in america. they are not going to be happy until they take over this country. and we have to be under sharia low. and i'm not going to bow down to them. >> i was brought up lebanese, christian. my grandparents were born here. emigrated from syria now lebanon. and i got to tell you that my personal opinion this, broad brush that's been painted of all muslims. if i was going to say there was a flaw i would just say that that could be the problem. i think there is a definite group of -- of the terrorist groups. and there is definite groups that we know who they are. but to paint the broad brush and to just -- and to include all muslims, i got to say that most muslims i know are loving, fine, outstanding, some of our best doctors. some of our smartest engineers. some of our most highly educated

educators and people in this country. >> so the broad brush stroke makes you uncomfortable. >> it always does, of course. like i would with any over race or religion or any other group. i never would want to paint broad brush. >> does anyone have muslim friends. >> i do. i go to a diverse campus university. and i have muslim friends who have come to me. like i really enjoy being in the united states. and i see that there are good muslims. there is always going to be good and bad. and it is what we are trying to figure out. and i believe donald trump will figure out is how we can defeat this evil and make sure it doesn't get into our country. >> i used to work at cvs. skmi worked there for six years. there was a pharmacist mohamed who started working and i usually always have a cross around my neck. and he always used to look at and it and he would ask questions about hi myself and in the beginning he was very cold

to me. and through conversation and working together we actually became friends and he showed me all of his pictures when he got engaged. and it was a real change. >> and there you go. your story and your story and your story. doesn't that say, that we can integrate? that we are a melting pot? that muslims should be able to have the american dream? why doesn't that tell you that donald trump has gone too far. >> he's not making the statement they are never going to be allowed in america. he's trying to get congress or the president to come up with a plan to be able to vet them so we can make sure we're not bringing in islamicist terrorists. >> let's talk about thisst terr. >> let's talk about this. you just heard. they don't see trump's comments as controversial. they see them as common sense. >> that's right. which is why it is such a mistake when people in the media

or people in the republican party or democrats across the aisle just laugh off or say trump is being ridiculous. it doesn't appreciate where sort of the force of his support, where it's coming from clearly. he is so in tune with where a swath of the republican electorate is right now, tapping into their anger, to their fear, to their sense of a lack of security right now. and so while they are clearly controversial comments and clearly comments that have been rebuked across the board, they are -- they are not sort of donald trump standing alone. it is coming from a place where he understands his voters to be. >> david, wasn't there also something revelatory about human nature in that moment? at an individual level they have great affection for their fellow

coworkers and students and etc. but en masse there is the fear of the unknown. >> and what i got when listening is that when they have an individual experience that is something completely separate in their mind from the overall policy precipitation that donald trump has put forward. >> now that is not just anecdotal. or apockry fall. they really do hate congress. these trump supporters really do hate congress and they think the republican party has abandoned them and failed them. and that is why they have such passion for donald trump. two points during my sit down they teared up. they welled up because they feel so strongly about their love for this country and their passion for donald trump and these supporters are not going anywhere. there is no one else in the republican field they would then pivot towards if donald trump dropped out. >> no. he's got his own sort of demographic now inside the party.

these are the trump voters. and you are right. i don't think they can easily shift. obviously when the race gets down to two people or three people it may not be enough for donald trump. they are a big swath right now in this crowded field. but alisyn you make a really important point about the republican party. this is now sort of a ten-year showdown in the making. ever since george w. bush pushed immigration reform and failed and the bank fallout. and the rise of the obama party and the tea party era and the winning the senate but still not feeling like anybody is responding to their concerns. mitt romney was able to keep a lid on it a little bit during his nomination race. but now that battle inside the republican party has really come to a head here. it is like a wild fire spreading. the establishment has been doing its best over the last ten years to try to harness that energy, contain it and help propel them to victory. and now it may be spreading out of control. and that is why you see the

party in such a moment of crisis over donald trump's candidacy. >> we're right in the middle as we speak. tomorrow we'll have more with the trump supporter panel, including what they believe donald trump's relationship is to the truth. so tune in for that. also the final republican debate of the year is just six days away. it will be right here on cnn. coverage begins at 6:00 p.m. eastern for the under card debate and the main event is at 8:0030 eastern. >> an indiana lawmaker says donald trump's anti islam phobic talk is fanning the flames. one man says he received death threats.

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we have a lawmaker joining us who says he can prove all this talk about muslims is dangerous. one of two muslims in congress. you say you received threatening calls to your office. what happened. >> i've received threatening

calls since 2008 when i became a member of congress. i think now that the environment is so hostile. it is so zen phobic. and the islam phobic. and where people are dealing with anxieties and fears react in ways that prove they are fearful right now. and a those of us seeking office, we have to be responsible with our rhetoric. i know we've become impassioned before crowds. but i this i we have to be mindful that we are in a state where we are seeing this restoration movement, if you will, of o folks who want to take our country back to a mythological good ole days and we cannot use rhetoric that will encourage and exacerbate existing fears and hostilities. >> well the other side says you are just being politically correct. and you don't want to call the islamic community what it is. which is the basis of the threat that the country is facing. and while you may not like how donald trump says it, the idea of banning the population that

is the threat makes sense to people. your response. >> well we've seen this during the red scare. we've seen these horrible initiatives taking place with our friends in the jewish community. we've seen it with different communities throughout our countries' history. i think it is very dangerous to indict an entire religion and billions of muslims when the facts are clear. there are muslims who are in our law enforcement agencies helping to keep our country safe. there are muslims in intelligence services. there are muslims in our courthouses. my father-in-law happens to be if first muslim elected judge in the country. any major hospital you will fine a muslim physician. there are muslim businessmen and women helping to put americans back to work. it is un-american and unpatriotic to demonize an entire race, group or religion of people. >> and while you say that, you also acknowledge the need to do

better, right? that the vetting isn't where it needs to be where the refugees or the fiancé visa or the visa program in general. that is where the congress is actually doing something surprisingly, and voting on making it harder to get a visa. if you go to certain countries you will need to get a visa. explain the bill and why you believe it is the best way to address the fear. >> right now there are 38 country whose don't videohave a visa environment. i think we need to look at ways we can strengthen our system. and it takes one or two years to even gain access or acceptance through the refugee program. and i think the visa waiver program is something we've had to look at for quite some time. there have been debates for years about the program and now given the unfortunate tax in

skpairs given what we saw in california and even colorado dare i saw, it is time for politicians and seriously minded officials to get behind the political posturing and make legislation that makes sense. >> how will this bill that we're looking at right now keep me safer? and how will it apply to something like colorado or san bernardino? guys are both born here. >> i think it will push back on anyone seeking to come into the country who has ill motivations. but we have greater concern as it relates to lone wolffs and people who become self radicalized, which is why the counterviolence extremism initiative is so important. and we're working with local law enforcement, fbi and other entities, faith leader, rabbi,

imam, mental health professionals, educators to look at wholistic approach with countering the radicalization taking place, not just from those who purport to be muslim but those who purport to be christian, jewish, non theist, thoet those who have a political agenda and want to further it by scaring the american people. >> do you think -- he may have actually fed the fear of islam by refusing to discuss it? >> absolutely not. i think we have to be careful not to get caught up in the use of phasology. the president is very intelligent, has a global vision and understands the importance of words. islam means peace. there are over a billion muslims in the world. i've already cited the numerous contributions muslims have made and are making to our society here this america. they have been a fabric of the society since the inception of this country.

so the president wisely understands that most muslims, the majority of muslims are peaceful, loving people. those who claim to be muslim who do terrorist acts don't represent the religion. just like the ku klux klan doesn't represent christendom. so i think we have to understand not to laump few bad actors into an entire race or even a religion. >> thank you very much for the perspective. the man of the moment donald trump once again. and tonight 10:00 eastern he sits with don lemon. you are going to want to catch that interview on cnn tonight and then we'll have don come in with the high points on "new day" tomorrow morning. >> don and don. good. we'll be watching. meanwhile, how would you feel if you were a successful muslim doctor on the verge of becoming an american citizen and donald trump said members of your faith are no longer welcome. our friend answers that next. your rheumatologist about a biologic...

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what is it like to be a muslim in america in the midst of donald trump's plan to ban others from entering the u.s.? you know our next guest. she's an accomplished doctor, she writes about a host of muslim issues. she's a author of "in the land of invisible women." but this week is particularly significant for her. this friday she becomes a u.s. citizen. >> yes. >> great to have you here dr. ahmed. >> my pleasure. >> what a significant week to have you on our program. you have been on our program many times talking about muslim issues. this but this week. you, the success story of who came to america in 1992. you came to the u.s. from london, where you grew up to do your medical training on a special immigration program the u.s. had for doctors. you became a highly trained pulmonologist, internist, a

sleep specialist. you then had to leave the country because that program, that visa program sort of ran out. >> right. >> you went back to. you went to the middle east. you went to saudi arabia. >> because of the strength of my american credentials, exactly. >> they wanted you because of the strength of your american credentials. >> yes. >> and when you could you came back here to the u.s. and you have been working here and trying to become a citizen ever since. >> even more powerfully, the american immigration citizen gave me a national -- gave me a green card in the national interest. our concept of u.s. immigration has been so under siege but it's extraordinaririly generous becae it can generate people like me. >> you are exactly the type of person america has always wanted to attract to be trained and to

work here. and when you hear donald trump, what do eothink? >> it astonishing and i find it a complete departure from american values. it is also very much contributing to the dehumanization of muslims without differential. we've talked many times here that islam is not monolithic. islamists want islam to be seen as monolithic. excluding all muslims from america is a monolithic response. this is not really about immigration, what donald trump is saying or recommending. it is about making us all into one group. one other that is to be feared and excluded. that is highly dangerous. >> people have also talked about how it could have have the opposite effect. it could breed extremism. you have an interesting take on this because you represented the u.s. when you went to saudi arabia. you write in your new piece here, "acutely aware of my actions that they reflected the united states to many who knew

it only as the caricature in hostile media or anonymous superpower, i felt responsible for representing america to the best of my abilities." >> i do believe that some of america's best ambassadors are its intellectual exports. there is an enormous gift the united states has in all fields, not just medicine, sciences are, arts. so when you come and go to other societies you are judged as the representative of america. and you can do enormous good or you can have a different experience. >> and this week people are scared. in the wake of san bernardino attacks u they say there are muslim extremists who are already here. there are other whose want to come here. there are terror attacks that we've had in the united states, not just 9/11. there have been others as well. they believe they have all been at the hands of muslim extremists. what do you say to donald trump?

>> i would say those fears are shared by myself and other muslim. i do know that. three years ago we did testify to congress about the rad collation of muslims in the united states and we do need surveillance and i do have confidence in the authorities to make these distinctions and to gather data. but to exclude us uniformly and perhaps even exclude american citizens who are muslims from coming back, which seems to be a possibility, is highly dangerous. it doesn't just promote xenopho xenophobia, by which i mean damaging act, desecration to a mosque in philadelphia or to individuals. it also is the fuel or food on which all islamism breeds and becomes stronger. and that is that muslims are under siege in the secular west. so if we give this to them, it doesn't just help recruitment in isis, it strengthens hamas, it

strengthens hezbollah. it strengthens the muslim brotherhood who often are non violent islamists attempting to seek political power in egypt. this is highly dangerous. >> only a few minutes left. how are you feeling on the cusp of becoming an american. >> extraordinarily privileged. and until i happens it will be remarkable to believe that i will have a blue passport. a tribute to everybody who ever trained me. this is a gift they gave me. >> so great to see you. >> thank you. >> the good stuff is next. stay with us.

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as always, donald trump making his way into the late night schedule. here is what you missed last night. >> when asked if he was bothered by his growing association with hitler and nazi germany trump simply replied "no." and when she heard this hillary clinton simply replied "yes ". >> marco rubio said the plan is offensive and outlandish. even dick cheney said the ban goes against everything we stand

for and believe in. and this is a guy who shot one of his friends. >> donald j. trump wants to ban every single person from the world's second largest religion from entering the united states of america, even zayn malik. you really want to piss off one direction fans? really? you want a real insurgency on your hands? >> president obama met hillary clinton yesterday for a secret lunch at the white house. and then when the lunch ended hillary okay, thanks for coming over. >> okay. that was funny. that was good i like jimmy's beard. >> going from the tension, to the humor. and now the good stuff. carter harris, just turned five. riding his new gift. almost didn't get it. day before his birthday someone drove off with his family's car with the bike in the back and his mom couldn't afford another one.

responding officers hear the story. what do they do? pool their money and get a new bike. >> thank you. and i'll be sure to pay it forward because that is what they did for me. >> officers say they didn't want to see carter go through the holidays without it. they found the car, severely damaged and the original bike still missing. >> what a great story. that is true holiday spirit right there. right guys? >> indeed. >> chris, hope you're feeling better by the way. >> thank you pamela. >> you're sick? >> she cares. you don't care. pamela cares. >> i'll take it from here. newsroom starts now. >> they knocked down the world trade center. they tried doing it twice. other things have happened. they have a lot of -- there are people that have tremendously bad intentions. we have to be tough. we have to be smart and