marquez also revealed he was involved in a 2010 plot with farook which they abandoned. so why hasn't he been charged? let's go live to san bernardino. >> reporter: good morning, intelligence fears appear to be bigger, as the time line when these two became radicalized is becoming clear. and testimony from the fbi raising new questions about how this couple managed to stay and you the radar, apparently, for years. new shocking details emerging about the husband and wife terrorists behind the san bernardino attacks. the fbi revealing tashfeen malik and sayid farook was radicalized before they even started dating online. >> as early as 2013 they were talking about jihad and martyrdom before they became engaged and then married and came to the united states. >> reporter: farook is seen here

leaving on a visa. the pakistani native was never asked about her jihadist views when interviewed by a u.s. official in pakistan. officials say because the department of homeland security found no flags in her visa application. and she passed two other security database checks. since farook is an american-born citizen, officials are now wondering if their marriage was a shame. a range to carry out a long-term terror attack. >> is there any evidence that this marriage was arranged with a terrorist organization or terrorist operative? >> i don't know that answer yet. >> would you agree with me if it was arranged by a terrorist operative, that say game-changer. >> that would be a very important thing to know. >> reporter: this agency the husband may have planned other attacks before with another u.s. citizen. farook's friend and former neighbor, enrique marquez told investigators that they were both radicalized in early 2011 and plotted an attack back in

2012. but after terror-related arrests in the area, they stopped the plan. marquez also admitted to buying farook guns two of which were used in the san bernardino killings. but he told investigators he didn't know about the couple's plans. he has yet to be charged with a crime. >> we're also working very hard to understand whether there was anybody else involved with assisting them, with supporting them, with equipping them. and we're working very hard to understand do they have other plans. >> reporter: we've also learned this morning that the fbi has been able to access some of the couple's electronic communications, even though the couple destroyed a couple of cell phones. they also apparently took the hard drive from their computer. that remains missing. but we're learning investigators have found some data on a tablet computer and other cell phones that they discovered at the couple's home. alisyn and chris. >> ana, i'll take it, you don't have to be a terrorist official to know when people destroy

computers. there's a reason. so what is it? let's talk about this with phil mudd, a cnn counterterrorist official. and cnn's paul cruickshank. let's start broad and get specific. paul, when you look at them arranging a marriage to help ingress into the country and hatch a plot. all of these different tentacles growing off of this, what do you make of the situation? >> well, with your information, really, they were radicalized before. when they were dating they were talking about jihad and martyrdom. i've seen that before in my reporting with couples looking to marry each other who have become radicalized. there's a litmus test for this. but that doesn't necessarily mean they were getting married for the primary of launching some kind of terrorist attack on its face. i don't think the evidence is suggesting that yet at this point. but certainly very new information coming to light in

just the last 24 hours. >> what do you think, it was just a box they checked in mutual interests, jihad as one of them? let me you can something, phil mudd, when we're looking at this, what did we miss, this fiancee visa not being asked about interests in extreme tendencies. how do you make sense of that? >> we're expecting that somebody is going to show up at the visa counter, yeah, by the way, since you asked me i'm a jihadist, yeah, i'm going to admit i'm part of a terror plot with my potential husband. i don't buy that. it is not about visas. you don't decline someone a visa if you don't have negative information about them. the questions for the germans, the french, the americans is are you willing to share with another government information that indicates one of your citizens is involved in radicalization. for example, looking at nasty

websites that is thought illegal. it's to say to brint or france watch out for chris, he's looking at nasty websites, you might want to stop him from entering your country. the question for congress and the president is not visas. the question is are you having problems with information sharing with countries like pakistan and europe so countries are willing to share information on citizens who have not committed crimes. >> do you think she was under the radar? >> i think there's a pretty good chance. people in this situation who are radicalized are typically radicalized, for example, a husband and wife, talking to each other about committing an act of violence. the internet serves as an accelerant. it doesn't inspire people to start down a path of radicalization, but they start looking at speeches, for example, that lead them to believe the path they've accepted is acceptable. for the digital trail, that's one reason the pakistani

officials have raided her family's home. >> paul, help people understand why this friend here isn't in custody right now. hi says they may have tried to hatch a plot earlier. they stopped box of arrests. authorities think he may be offering that up as a way of absenti ining himself from a cut situation. explain that. >> i'm not sure how it helps his case that he was plotting a terrorist attack back in 2012 with farook. i mean, that is very self-incriminating and will certainly have gotten the attention of law enforcement officials, made them even more suspicious, so there's potential involvement in some kind of planning with farook going all the way back to 2012. so, before this couple got married, if he's right, he's telling the truth, they were planning something in the united states even before the marriage. there has also been reports, suggestion of mental health issues with marquez.

so is what he is saying true? is it accurate? they'll be looking at all of that. so this may not just be a couple here who can fly under the radar screen. it may be a whole extra person involved in a sort of wider don spears over the years. and that's going to certainly lead to more questions for law enforcement officials. there's a bigger footprint if you have two rather than three. >> the theory by officials he may be leading up to a story saying he stopped this. of the fact is the guy bought ar-15s for this guy and gave them to him i think at some point, he's going to have some trouble. the other point is, philip mudd, they get rid of the hard drive, they obviously made efforts before they were killed to eracing and remove different instruments. doesn't that say something pretty obvious? >> it says a lot to me, chris. the guys down in quantity co ar

pretty good at breaking this. that was supposition before. now that we have someone who says he was involved in a plot in 2012. we're talking about what that plot is, as a fellow practitioner, that would fought be my number one question. my first question would be, if one of these individuals who died a week ago, as he perceived himself to be a martyr, tried to radicalize somebody three years ago. who else did he try to radicalize? that's three years, chris. there's no question in my mind, that he talked to somebody else in that interim period trying to bring them into this radicalized plot. on that phone, is that clue that tells us, who were those other people? that's the questions i would have in those phones that they're trying to break down in quantico. >> now, when we started this investigation, investigators thought this was probably something random. this guy did this.

maybe his wife kind of got over on him. now, it turns into, no, this was actually the most feared. and should be most commonly detected scenario. longtime radicalization. longtime planning. a lot of reachout. a lot of resources. what does it mean that these guys weren't discovered? >> well, it means if you look at the threads of investigation in this case, picking up the phone, typing something on an e-mail or talking to an individual. the tracks they left so far, not clear in a country of 330 million people, remember, you're not looking at one case figuring out what did you miss? you're looking at 330 million people saying how do i boil that ocean down and determine whose involved. e-mail, phone, contact with a person. you got to find a thread to pull on to come up with what the fabric of the investigation is. what thread do we pull on here. they talked to somebody three years ago who does not appear to be connected to an international

terrorist organization directly. their phones and we don't have access to the hard drive to determine whether they're e-mailing somebody. so as someone who watched a bunch of investigations, it's not clear to me yet ma thread you'd pull on. the question now is, what that dude going to say involved in 2012 to give a thread to pull. >> paul cruickshank and philip mudd, like they say, you only have to get lucky once. we're hearing from the man accused of the terror attack at the colorado robert interrupting saying he's a warrior for babies? >> could you add the babies supposed to be aborted that day, could you add that to the list? kill babies. that's what planned parenthood does. you don't know what i saw in that clinic. atrocities. that's what they want to seal, babies. >> in regard to -- >> dear is accused of killing

three people and could face the death penalty. hundreds of protesters take to get streets in chicago demanding that the city's embattled mayor resign. on wednesday, mayor rahm emanuel apologizing for the shooting deaths of laquan mcdonald and calling for a reckoning on other shootings. melissa is live with the latest. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. protesters in chicago turns up the heat asking the mayer to resign after a multiple police-involved shootings cots on tape. now, yesterday, those protests grew after the mayor delivered a speech about police accountability, justice an transparency. >> -- supposed to be for those who are powerless to make sure their voice matters as much as those who are in power or have power. and we were add to get suspicion and distrust. and i did not fulfill the job in

the magnitude of being a mayor. >> reporter: now, at about the same time, but a few blocks away from where the mayor delivered that speech in federal court, city attorneys arguing against the release of yet another video about another black teen being shot by police. this time, cedric chapman. now, he is a carjacking suspect who was shot and killed by police back in 2013. with city attorneys arguing that releasing the video would taint the jury and would be misused by the media. now, the judge didn't rule. he said he was going to give both parties time to look at the law. now, we asked the city of chicago why would the mayor be talk about transparency in one, and yet, attorneys arguing against the release of theory video. and they said that they had know that their policy on these videos needs to change. that the mayor has appointed a

task force that's doing that. we should add that the mayor in the past two weeks has asked two officials to resign, including the superintendent. but you saw those protest videos, michaela, people are saying that the mayor is next. >> yeah, they're speaking loudly. rosa, thank you. for president obama's muslim man now stretching as far as calling together for the gop front-runner to respect the religions and rights of all citizens. still, donald trump not backing down, in fact he sat dune with cnn's don lemon to set the record straight. >> we leased three polls last week. the national poll, iowa and new hampshire, you're ahead by far. and you release this controversial statement. why don't you sit on your big lead and just led it ride? >> because, don, i have to do what's right. we need a dialogue in this. and throughout the world. we have a big problem. and as you know, i have many

friends who are muslims who are phenomenal people. they are so happy at what i'm doing. i was called by three people today. very big. they said you are doing a tremendous service. because unless people are going to be talking about it, it's never going to be solved. the public agrees with mawhat i said. they saw those two animals last week go out and shoot people. the husband and wife. the wife came here on a phony visa -- on a visa, frankly, it's disgraceal that she was able to come in. >> fiance visa. >> she had a fiance visa. and discussed things. so the people who are with me 100% are the people and that's francely all that matters. >> let's talk about this proposal, right? you adjusted it slightly allowing american muslims traveling overseas return to the country. this doesn't apply to u.s. citizens? >> it never did. from day one, it never did.

i don't know why people thought it did. this applies to people coming into the country and all it is a break to politicians who are with any incompeents, by the way, can get their act together. >> what about foreign diplomats and people from muslim countries coming into the country? >> exceptions can be made. we're not going to say you can't come into the country. the one thing people didn't pick up, at the end of that sentence, it said, until we get our hands around it, essentially, until we figure out what the hell is going on, is the expression i used. now, that can go quickly. but you know what, it's a subject that has to be discussed. >> you said there will be exceptions even for international athletes in competitions? >> certainly. exceptions. there will certainly be exceptions made. >> you say until we figure out what's going on? what exactly does that mean? figure out what? >> why there is such hatred and such viciousness. why is somebody willing to fly

airplanes into the world trade center and go after prior to that, they failed, although they did tremendous damage by an enormous standard. after they failed they actually took airplanes into the world trade center. where does this hatred come from? why does it come -- we have to figure it out. because we have problems. so when you surveil the mosques, you know, i took a lot of heat for surveillance of the mosques. well, now other people are saying we have to surveil the mosques. you have big business interests in the middle east. >> yeah. >> people are wonder writing are you continuing to do business in the middle east if you have such concerns -- >> because i have great relationships with the people of the middle east. i love the people of the middle east. >> are you worried about that being affected by this? >> look, maybe it will be. i mean, look, it's one of those things. what i'm doing now is far more important. and i'm talking about for the muslims. i'm doing good for the muslims.

what i'm doing now is far more important than any particular business i have in the middle east. i was just called by one of the most important people of the middle east. and just said to me, donald, you have done a tremendous service to the muslims because we're making -- nobody wants to talk about it. everybody wants to be so politically correct, let everybody come. we have a problem. and the problem has to be solved. >> lall right, let's get some reaction on what you just heard. we're going to take a break right now. stay with us.

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errol, with the specifics, it changes a little bit, it might be a quick ban. it wouldn't apply to famous muslims coming into the united states or americans based overseas who are muslims. so now where are we? >> i'm sure it will evolve again. just to be clear, on the day the statement came out, a reporter went back to him an said would this apply to u.s. citizens who are muslims who are overseas, a response came back from his spokesman, all of them. now, it changes. exaggerations, changes in position, it's not the cleanest way to have a debate. but, you know, you take the facts as they trickle out to you. he wants to shift on his position. i think the gist of it is pretty clear, which is that, there be some kind of huge exclusion for some unspecified period of time for one specified period or reason. for ways, are we going to have

loyalty test, read passages from the koran to see who knows them or doesn't know them. it's dwee divisive. where this gross now, donald trump is trying to get what he wants to get out of it. what the rest of the world remains to be seen. >> although he says a muslim is thanking him. one of the most important people in the middle east called him and said this is a great thing that you're doing. all of that aside, jackie, you could argue that he is doing the process of favor. he's introducing a topic, you can introduce that there's context with don. we have to talk about this. maybe he's overshooting the target of what would be truthful hyperbole in the interest of a topic that isn't getting enough review? >> when you say that, yeah i guess, but also depends on how

you talk about it. the way he talks about it is fairly divisive. you have someone like david cameron and the foreign prime minister, you don't normally see them weighing in on that. and when you look at the republican party, that's where you have condemnation. it's under constitutional. and the tone matters in a big way. >> i wanted to bring in, he said his muslim friends support this. not exactly. because one of his muslim friends, the ceo of qatar airways weighed in. he says, look, donald is my friend and we've been friends for a long time. i think this is an exercise only to gain political mileage, nothing more. this is an opportune time to excite more extremist people so they could give him their votes." that's not a ringing endorsement.

>> not a ringing endorsement. donald trump is trying to get to where it's going to get him politically. where this goes everywheres, the fallout, the repercussions across the board -- >> but seeing something for political game is not necessarily donald trump. you could say he's playing the game better. the poll numbers that we were talking about before the segment if you have a majority of republicans who say this isn't a bad idea. you have a huge slice of democrats who think it might not be a bad idea, it's certainly something to discuss. >> absolutely. this is the question, the real test, this is what all of us have to think hard about which is at what point do the obligations of leadership require you to split from what the is advantage. you can look that you're going to win primaries and caucuses by saying all kinds of crazy things, but should you do it? is that the right thing? and what kind of i country are

we left with if that sort of becomes the norm. >> what are you fuelling? you're fuelling fear. you're fuelling the lesser part of our nature as a people. and that isn't -- it's not positive. and what donald trump is doing, that's exactly what he's doing, he's talking about something that people are very fearful of, in a way that kind of makes them more cared. >> jackie, errol, thank you. great to get your take on this. we'll have more of donald trump's interview in the next hour. and don lemon here to talk about his impressions. >> again, the timing of this very critical. we're just five days away from the republican debate of the year, tuesday night, 6:00 eastern, the under card. the main event at 8:30 eastern. mik. >> i think of a boxing ring. ahead here, the six officers charged in the death of freddie gray take a stand anyway

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because the van is very narrow inside. we heard it's 17 inches from bench to cross bench. and he said that if he got in there in a seat belt that his gun would be exposed to any prisoner he was transporting and he believed that was a risk. he did say in the police academy he was taught that you were supposed to seat belt somebody in. but when he wept out for field training never once was there any explanation or to seat belt a prisoner inside the transport van. he said in essence, he didn't see it done. he also testified that he was very sorry what happened to freddie gray. he didn't want that to happen. that he knew freddie gray from patrolling the neighborhood. they tried to discredit him with lit bits and pieces saying he wasn't telling the truth.

as far as demeanor, william porter was down to earth. he was talking natural. cross-examination didn't really change at all. the question is, how did he get the horrific injuries, freddie gray? because the c-4 vertebra was locked up and over c-5. the ligaments were ripped and torn. the nerves could not do blood flow. the arteries couldn't take oxygen to the brain so he couldn't breathe. chris, that is the perplexing thing, there's no evidence that the van went at high speed or stopped quickly. the injuries were as the medical examiner said you had fallen out of a major airplane crash. >> well, jean, thank you very much for that reporting. let's take a quick break. when we come back. donald trump, he said we need to talk about what's going on. his solution -- ban the muslims. it is resonating with a growing

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debate heating up again. donald trump declaring the victims of the massacre could have saved themselves if they had been armed. i sat down with a group of trump supporters at the theater in connecticut we talked about the heats issue of gun control. after every mass shooting, there's a debate, as you all know, that bubbles up about gun control. what has donald trump said, probably, that makes you think that he will be best to handle this issue? >> well, first of all, he's an avid supporter of the second amendment. what happened last week in san bernardino, california, the massacre that took place out there, right away, they used democrats, obama and hillary clinton used that as a political talking point to say that, if we had, you know, tighter gun control, that may have never happened. my opinion on the subject is,

had we had, a couple of legally -- people that could legally carry a handgun in that room, maybe we wouldn't have seen that issue at all. >> mr. trump did say, you know, unfortunate thing that happened in france, he said if american people were in there and we had our rights with guns it would be a completely different outcome. >> so is that the solution, john, what is the solution to mass shootings and gun violence here? >> well, educating people that guns aren't bad. guns aren't dangerous. they are in the hands of someone who is not qualified to have them. if someone came into this theater, let's say, and wanted to do harm to any of us, they would probably have a high success rate. but i can tell you if they came into the palace theater in manchester, new hampshire, they may have a much less chance of surviving. >> because more people have guns in new hampshire. >> everybody has guns in new hampshire. and it's one of the safest

states in the country. >> i think it's an example, the way this is a farce, this whole discussion of gun control, relative to terrorism and mass shooting. look at ft. hood. that was a military base, and it was effectively a gun-free zone. people must be laughing at us, they go to a military base, these poor soldiers are sitting targets for these guys who commit so-called war zone violence, that's what happens. defending yourself say natural right of self-defense, yet, they want us to relinquish the duty we have as law, give it to them and they have to duty to protect us. >> let's take that, what happens? only the crips have guns. >> one of the things that's come to lighting is that there's this loophole, apparently, whereby people on the fbi's no-fly list, their terror watch list, can buy guns. are you comfortable with that? >> well, i haven't really

studied that one per se. but i remember hearing that there are a number of people on the no-fly list that shouldn't be on the no-fly list, that are there mistakenly. for me, i think everyone has the right defend themselves. and everyone should be able to have a gun if they so desire. >> now, the government has this omni potent about the of creating a black list of the no-fly zone. what happened to my -- not my, but anyone's right to confront their accuser, meet their accuser face-to-face? now, you're going to strip someone's second amendment right of liberty because some two-bit politician decided he's a suspect of terror? >> we are talking about the united states and keeping people from terror. even incident muslims, trinidad or india, wherever, who may be fleeing some sort of persecution, they can't come in

because we're too concerned about national security. but let people on the terror watch list have a gun because we're too concerned about our liberties. >> not to conflict the immigration issue with the right to self-defense. number one, you do not have a right to immigrate to the united states. it's not a right. so the people on the outside of the borders, they don't have a right to come in. that does not in any way -- it's a mutual exclusive for my right to defend myself, using any means necessary to protect life and limb of either myself or somebody else. that i see being threatened or death. >> and they can use this no-fly list against anybody. they can have any suspicion. to tie those together for your right to protect yourself, your life, and other people -- >> some people -- yes, you're right, that there are people -- that there are people who are

not supposed to be on the no-ply list. but some people on the no-fly list are being watched. they're suspects of some kind? >> they're being watched and suspects but innocent until proven guilty. and i'll tell, the ability to be able to disarm somebody who hasn't ever been found to be guilty of any crime or felony or any -- or have any particular mental illness or whatever, they're trying to sort this out with, i think is wrong. >> okay. lots to talk about here. let's bring in jackie kucinich back in and errol louis. that was an interesting conversation. they're more concerned about somebody incident being mistakenly put on the no-fly list who doesn't deserve to be there. not being able to purchase a gun saying about real terror suspects being able to get their hand on a gun? >> that's right. imagine what that same group would say of somebody on a no

fly list, somebody who might be connected to terrorism or otherwise in need of supervision. coming up. with a gun and then shooting up some kind of a place. i think the sort of disgust that comes through, i think, from those folks, about the capability of the government at every level is what i found most disturbing. you know, there are dedicated professionals. you meet some people who are in policing, in law enforcement, in the defense establishment, they spend a long, long time trying to get theto get the to keep us safe and the constitution that they're worn to protect. they do it in a nuanced way. they're learning from practices overseas. folks, they're saying give me a gun, i'll shoot it out with the terrorists, and everybody in government is wasting their time. >> jackie, the first thing we started that conversation with, one of the trump supporters said donald trump is an avid supporter of the second amendment.

now, he wasn't known necessarily as that prior to running for president. since then, donald trump said i love the second amendment. i think that is what they're basing their thoughts about donald trump's position on? >> you know, it's hard to find anyone in the republican field that probably doesn't love the second amendment. but, you know, across the board in that group, what you hearsay deep mistrust of government and government officials. and i think that's what adonald trump is tapping into. and he's saying, personally rely and have your gun in a movie theater, have your gun when you go see a concert, because then you can defend yourself. that is obviously what the supporters want to hear. >> jackie, errol, thank you so much. for the snap analysis. great to you have guys here. let's get over to chris. another big story this morning, what's going on in chicago. mayor rahm emanuel said he didn't cover anything but he is sorry. is sorry enough? we have a look at what's coming in chicago.

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chicago mayor rahm emanuel faces another battle as citizens respond to his apology after a series of deadly shootings. protesters demanding his resignation. joining us is zack stafford, a contributor editor based in chicago. we'll talk about those in a minute. but zack, i know you have lived in chicago for a past while and you have been covering what's going on in your city there for a while. in fact, i know you were on the streets last night, amid the protesters, talking to them. covering the story. what was of note being among the protesters last night to you? >> i meaner last night, the protesters, something of note is that it was very business as usual for a lot of them. they've been out on the streets for a long time. just because the world is now paying attention to their cries for help in the city of chicago. doesn't mean they haven't been trying to make this for a while. last night marx i thought was so interesting was, yesterday's

protesting in the middle of the day, was actually an accident -- it was a joke. it was a college student who kind of created a facebook page in new york. and it took off in chicago and saw it. a lot of the chicagoans that were there weren't protesters well seasoned. but there are people who are lawyers, doctors, worked downtown and wanted to come out and support what they see on tv. >> they were moved and wanted to be part of it. part of it is loudoning drum beat for mayor rahm emanuel to step down. what happens if he stays and goes against ma protesters are calling for? there's a recall effort, a fellow democrat, introducing that bill? >> yeah, so that was an very interesting development, in the midst of all of these protests, state representative lesean ford introduced a bill that would allow us to recall mayor emanuel, unprecedented before. that along with the protests a sign of how strongly chicagoans

feel about getting the mayor out of office. as a reminder, mayor emanuel was re-elected this year. and the reason why we're seeing it is so powerful, they feel the mayor kind of stole the election by hiding that video. now, they're very angry, they're saying we trusted you. because this election was very close. now they're saying we trusted you and now you made us distrust you and don't know if we can trust you again. >> with regard to the re-election process. and i want to play a little sound from mayor emanuel yesterday because he became quite emotional during a special city council meeting called yesterday. listen. >> one young man asked me a simple question that gets to the core of what we're talking about, he said, do you think the police would ever treat you the way they treat me? and the answer is, no.

and that is wrong. no citizen is a second class citizen in the city of chicago. >> so, i'm curious, what is the reaction there on the streets of chicago? how are chicagoans receiving his emoted speech yesterday? >> i mean, i don't mean to smirk at that. i do respect mayor emanuel in a lot of ways but i think a lot of protesters are smirking at him. they do not see that as anywhere in their history with him, this past year and the past few years, the mayor has not only aloud for police violence to go unchecked in the city of chicago. he's closed schools. he's closed mental health facilities. he's done things that have directly impacted black communities here and made them feel that they're worse than ever before. so while they eappreciate the emotion, they are not seeing did in day-to-day actions,

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friend apparently plotted to launch an attack back in 2012. a string of high profile deadly police shootings caught on tape. >> we followed the course. and it's clear the course has not worked for the relationship between the community and the police department. are you going to break this pledge? >> i think it's highly unlikely unless they break the pledge to me because it's a two-way street. >> let's just say if you had to run as an independent. do you think you could win? >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. good morning, everyone. welcome back to "new day." the marriage of the two san bernardino terrorists under the microscope. the fbi investigating whether their marriage was arranged to carry out the attack. the fbi now says the husband and wife duo were radicalized before they ever met. >> investigator, also zeroing in

on a childhood friend and neighbor of the terrorist. his name is enrique marquez. he admits to investigators that he and farook plotted a 2012 attack and then got spooked. he said he as provided farook with two of the military-style rifles used in last week's massacre. the question is why hasn't he been charged? let's get to ana cabrera live. >> reporter: the time line of when these killers became radicalized is becoming clearer this morning. and the intelligence failures seems to be bigger than first thought. the head of the fbi testifying in rising new questions how it's possible this couple managed to fly under the radar for years. new shocking details emerging about the husband and wife terrorist behind the san bernardino attacks. the fbi revealing tashfeen malik and syed farook was radicalized.

>> as the end of 2013, they were talk about jihad and martyrdom before they became engaged and married in the united states. >> reporter: malik is seen aflievgt u.s. on a fiance visa in the summer of 2014. the pakistani native was never asked about her jihadist or radical views when interviewed in pakistan. officials say because the department of homeland security found no flags in her visa application. and she passioned two other data based security check. since farook is an american-born citizen, officials are now wondering if their marriage was a sham, arranged to carry out a long-term terror attack. >> is there any evidence that this marriage was arranged with a terrorist organization, a terrorist operative? >> i don't know the answer to that yet. >> do you agree with me if arranged with a terrorist operative or organization that is a game changer?

>> it would be a very, very important thing to know. >> reporter: this as investigators learned that the husband may have planned other attacks before with another u.s. citizen. farook's friend and former neighbor, enrique marquez told investigators they were plotted an attack in 2012. after area arrests in the area, they stopped the plan. marquez admitted to buying guns, two of which were used in the san bernardino killings he has yet to be charged with a crime. >> we're also working hard to understand whether there was anybody else involved with assisting them, supporting them and equipping them. and we're working very hard to understand do they have other plans. >> reporter: now, we're learning the fbi has been able to access some of the couple's electronic communications. even though the couple destroyed their cell phones and a computer hard drive does remain missing. but according to officials,

investigators have been able to get some data from some cell phones that were also still at the home. other cell phones as well as other tablet computer they pulled during the couple's search warrant at the townhouse. alisyn and chris. we do have breaking news to get to. this is out of geneva this morning. police in geneva raising the terror alert level. swiss authorities are actively searching for four suspects that may be linked to last month's paris attacks. those are the only details on that. another big story, we're watching the protests expected on the streets of chicago, embattled mayor rahm emanuel calling for an honest reckoning after several deadly shootings there as protesters demand his resignation. rosa flores is live there. more for us. >> reporter: good morning, michaela, yes, protesters in chicago turning up the heat

asking the may tore resign. this is after the multiple police involve shootings caught on tape. those rulings yesterday after the mayor delivered a speech on transparency, justice and accountability. >> -- that video, while we were protecting the integrity of the investigation. not compromising it. clearly built up distrust, rather than built trust. one of the first things that i said to lori lightfoot and her task force is you have to look at a pose change. policy change. >> reporter: while he delivered that speech, just a few blocks away in federal court, city attorneys argued against the release of yet another video, showing another black teen on the south side being shot and killed by police. now, this time, it's cedric chapman, he's a carjacking

suspect shot and killed by police back in 2013. now, city attorneys argued that the video would be misused by the media. that it would taint a jury pool. the judge didn't rule in this particular case. he said he was going to give the attorneys time to study the law. now, we should add that the mayor in the past two weeks has asked city officials to resign, including the superintendent. and, of course, protesters now saying that the mayor should be next. chris. >> all right, thank you very much. appreciate the reporting. republican front-runner donald trump has no problems speaking his mind but his rhetoric is not sitting well with everyone. members of the party and top heres around the globe. if voters don't make him a nominee last year, will he make a run as an independent? that's a huge question. cnn's don lemon possessioned the question to trump. >> here's the pledge, are you going to break this pledge? >> i think it's highly unlikely

unless they plake the pledge to me because it's a two-way street. >> what does that mean? >> they said they would be honorable, so far i can't tell you if they are. the establishment has not been exactly good to me. it looks like i'm about to win. my whole life is about winning, i'm not like some of the other people that you talk to who are essentially losers, okay? i know how to win. i intend to win. it's the best way of beating the democrats if i get the nomination. in the fox poll which i'm sure you saw, i'm way ahead of hillary. head to head, i'm ahead of hillary. i will beat hillary. the one person hillary does not want to run against. i get along with democrats, republicans, liberals, everybody. the one person that they don't want to run against is me, believe me. >> i just want this plain spoken for the viewer. what do you mean if they break this pledge, then you'll break the pledge? what do you mean by that? >> well, if they don't treat me

with a certain amount of decorum and respect. if they don't treat me as the front-runner. by far, the front-runner. if the playing field is not level, then certainly, all options are open. but that's nothing i want to do. >> how will you know that? what determines that? >> well, i think i'll know that over a period of a number of months. we'll go through the primaries. we'll see what happens and i'll make a determination. i would imagine they'll treat me properly. >> the intent is you'll keep their word if 93 deep their word? >> it is. i'm a republican, i'm a conservative. i've had tremendous bonding. saw the poll that came out in "usa today," 68%. people would follow me. >> that's a question, why would you say that -- >> i didn't take the poll. a very respected newspaper took the poll. just so you understand, that's nothing that i want to do. i want to do it just the way i'm

doing it. i want to win iowa. i want to win new hampshire. i want to win south carolina. i want to win the s.e.c., i want to win nevada, the whole group. potentially, i have the capability, and i think i have the numbers to run the table. you know what running the taken means? >> i know what you mean by running the table. let's just say in you had to run as an independent, do you think you could win? >> i think it would be much tougher to win as an independent. i think i could win but i think it would be much tougher as an independent, i'd rather not do that. >> not anyone can catch up with you? >> i don't think so. i guess the world could fall down but i don't think so. look, i'm at 35, 36, one of the polls has me at 42. let's say they start dropping out now. some could have dropped out and not have any impact, zero. lindsey graham. as people start to drop out, they're not going to have impact because they're so low but as

they drop out i think i'll get a very good fair share. now, if i'm already at 42, when i watched the pundits on division, i was at 4, then 12, then 20, 22. every week i went up you know this better than anybody, every week virtually i went up. every week, they'd say, well that's his max. ma was your last poll, 33 or 35? >> 33, double-digit lead over the next person. >> they don't even say that anymore. i think i'll go up again. just so you understand, when you're at 35 or 42, and you have 15 people, that's a tremendous number. >> so in your mind, you're the nominee? >> no, i would never say that, but i would certainly say-i have an awfully good chance of becoming the nominee. if i become the nominee, i think i have an even better chance of beating hillary clinton. there's nobody that did a worse

job. she couldn't have run in the election. frankly, she doesn't have the strength or stamina to be president. >> don lemon, two things that came out in this interview, one, he made the point to you that, hey, we have to have this conversation. a little nod to him being the provocateur in this conversation. and he walked back the ban on some levels. >> clarify as he would say, clarified that he didn't mean muslims already living in america. >> famous muslims. >> yeah, famous muslims and exceptions for athletes. >> and he said it would be very quick. >> and he said it's total and complete. >> do you get the sense he's doing what he did with immigration, he's take something that people are upset about, putting the stakes very high and seeing what happens? >> that's putting it nicely. yes. he knows that he's struck a chord.

he's hit a nerve with something in society. and he's using that to the fullest of his abilities. he said as much in that interview. my friends, i hear people saying, you know, you've done a great service to the muslim people by bringing this secretary forward. he said the same thing about mexicans. the mexicans love him. the blacks love him. the muslims love him, that's what he had says. i will say this, which you brought out in that great focus group that you did yesterday, is that what happens in the media and sometimes in the polling is not often reflected -- this is unscientific for me -- in ma i hear on the street as someone who people think knows donald trump. i don't know him that well, i interviewed him. it's that they walk up to me that they would probably never say in public forum. hey, don lemon, i watch your show. you know what, i agree with him. would you vote for him? yeah, i would vote for him. why? because i don't necessarily agree with everything but he says it and he has a take care

attitude and they feel that's what they need. that's coming from people who are not just republicans. >> john, what jumps out at you from the great conversation that don had with the donald? >> just on the subject of independent, a lot of donald trump's critics say he's irrational, he says crazy things. that was a very rational, pretty candid representation of the republican race and as an independent. he would have to dig into his own bank account much more so than he's doing as a republican candidate if he runs as an independent. that's a dance with the republican party. and guess what, for all of the anti-establishment criticism of him, this is just weeks away from being in the hands of the voters. iowa votes and then new hampshire and then we're off to the races. the republicans are going to decide this not the republican committee, not the establishment, not elected

leaders. donald trump at the moment has the clearest pass of the republican nomination. yes, he'll dangle the prospect of running as an independent. but that's not what he's thinking about. he's thinking about being the republican nominee. >> what's the current thinking on this ceiling of group of people that resonate within the gop for trump right now? how many people does the gop have to worry about that trump owns? >> i think don just hit on it with conversations with people on the street. go back to the report you had. this company was radicalized as far back as 2012. why didn't the government know about this? you ask people on the street and they think the government would screw up a free lunch. they just do. and donald taps into that. watts the ceiling? you see in the new hampshire poll, 26% of republicans say they would never vote for trump under any circumstances. other numbers, you see that poll as high as the mid-30s. we will not know about trump's

full appeal until we get to a race between donald trump and would or three candidates. the question is what is that? and what does the field look like? donald trump has money if he wants to spend it. ted cruz has money. jeb bush has money. who else will have money by the time we get past iowa, past new hampshire, past south carolina? >> the three least spoken words in washington -- i don't know. because we don't know, we're in uncharted waters. >> i think you're right, also, he said during the interview, and you guys know this, everyone has counted him out. he said when i was at 4, when i was at 6, everyone counted me out. and he said i have moved in the polls by double digits. >> i liked your question to him about why not sit back and rest on your laurels, rest on your lead, why stir the pot?

what was your response to that? >> well, the not in his nature. >> it's also what's getting him where he. he can't stop being what he is. >> yes, you just answered the question. it's who had he is. he cannot do it. becausen 0 the night, on sunday night, with the speech the president gave, and you know this, roundly criticized by a lot of people. there was no passion. his dispassion is fuelling passion on the other side. and that's what we will be talking about. instead, donald trump releases his controversial proposal about banning muslims temporarily, and that's what we're talking about instead of the president's speech. >> look what's happened here. he's said this provocative thing. temporarily bans muslims everywhere and he winds up qualifying that. but he said that, it's an easy pitch for a politician to hit. is goes against the moral center of what america is. there's arguments about practicality issues you could

view this a hundred different ways. who stepped up and owned it as i have a acounters narrative? i have another idea? i want to say who this country is -- nobody. we asked him the next day. yeah, this is wrong. it's sort a notion. that's not the way politician. >> well -- >> he's offering a counter narrative. >> and who is saying tell trump to go to hell. >> the dispatch or the lack of it, counternarrative on the other side is fuelling the passion. because it gives people something to cling on to. >> right. >> at least he has a plan, i may not like it, but there's something. >> john king, not all are equal. lindsey graham is a hash mark. when you hear something like this and you want the title, you're supposed to go for it. hillary clinton is not supposed to tweet. you are supposed to come out strong. and we're not seeing it, what does that mean to you? >> some of the candidates are

speaking out. lindsey graham said he can go to hell. jeb bush said he's unhinged. remember, we're talked about donald trump in the box of a republican primary. he's not appealing to independents. he's not trying to appeal to democrats right now. he's trying to win a republican primary. he said ban on muslims. the other people come out say go to hell, they say he's unhinged what does that leave him? that leaves him agreeing with hillary clinton and barack obama. trump gets this, trust me, he gets branding. he's winning, right? they're losers. he gets the branding part of this. and when you oppose him -- you're with the enemy. to republicans, hillary clinton and president obama are the enemy. jeb bush says i have a different plan. lindsey graham says i have a different plan. >> great point. john king, thanks so much. >> don, we'll see you later in the program with more of your interview. we're pushing people to step up and make their own case, right? if you disagree with trump,

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chicago mayor ram emanuel in the hot seat. joining us now is lorenzo davis. he's a former investigators tachg tasked with looking into police shootings. he said he was fired that had him change his findings. you were a chicago police officer for 23 years as a commander and an investigator, as we said, were you were responsible internally for looking into police shootings. so, what did you find?

>> well, i found that there were some police officers who had committed excessive force. and there were some officer-involved shootings that were not justified. >> and when you told your superiors or your colleagues of your minds, then what happened? >> well when i completed the reports, i was told to change my findings, change the officer-involved shootings to a justified finding. and to change the excessive force findings to exonerate it or unfounded. >> and that's an incredible bombshell. who made you do that? >> the chief administrator at the time scott ando who resigned this past sunday. >> and how high up, mr. davis,

do you think that pressure went? who do you think was pressuring the chief? in other words, did the mayor of chicago tell your department to keep those numbers low? >> i don't know, but what i do believe is that the mayor has made bad decisions as far as who he places in charge of the various departments. he made two bad appointments, as the chicago public school superintendent, he made a bad choice appointing the superintendent of police. and he made a bad choice when he appointed the chief administrator of the independent police review authority. >> and when you say a bad choice about the police chief and the sberc internal review, what made it bad? >> well, there was a cover-up. there was a culture created of

excessive force, where police officers felt like they could do whatever they wanted to do. and get away with it. whenever any shooting is found to be justified, then there's no incentive if there is no accountability for police officers to be more judicious when they use their weapons. >> you wrote something just remarkable. it was published in the daily beast. let me read it to you. you say, i know people coming out of the training academy telling me that it is a badge of honor to shoot someone. particularly a gang banger. you heard that that the police department, that people -- that some new police officers wanted to shoot people? >> yes. and even farther from that, i heard that since awards were given out for shooting people, that some, perhaps some police

officers wanted to get an award. and that's why they shot someone with the opportunity presented itself. >> what do you mean, an award? in the police department, you were given awards if you shot someone? >> the superintendents awarded valor. it shared the -- if you, you know, exhibit valor in a daily force situation. but some of these awards are given out for or to police officers who it appears intentionally placed themselves in a dangerous situation. and end up shooting their way out. >> does mayor emanuel need to resign? >> yes, he does. because as i said, he apparently

is a bad judge of character. he's made a lot of bad decisions. the protesters in the street say that it is too little too late. he said he was sorry, after the last election. he did the same thing yesterday. he apologized to the people. but the changes he is making today, in order to correct the problems, are also bad changes, not well thought out. i don't know who his advisers are. he does not listen to the people. he has no -- people who are complaining, mainly, the protesters, in his cabinet. >> whether lorenzo davis, we appreciate your candor.

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premium court justice antonen scalia taking serious heat after comments that come during a case about affirmative action that scalia has long said is unconstitutional. let's have cnn analyst jeffrey toobin. i will deny my own premise, he was not bringing something up. it was made in a brief and he was asking people about it. give us context. >> there's a theory called mismatch which says affirmative action doesn't work, because if you look at the statistics, according to this theory, african-americans who are admitted to less selective colleges, actually go on to more successful career than the african-americans who go to the flagship schools.

>> but they used data looking at the african-american scientists and high achievers, where they came from and different sets of colleges? >> correct. let me say at the outset that's a highly disputed theory it involves statistics that are unrefuted by other people who look at similar statistics. i think in fairness to justice scalia, who generally, i can't say i'm a big fan of, he was not just generally making a point that black people can't succeed at high profile schools, he was arguing based on this evidence. >> did he own it too much? >> justice scalia has been kind of the get off my lawn justice. he's expressed himself in colorful, sometimes blunt, and some people think offensive ways. he may put this argument some that style of expression. but he was certainly making a point about evidence that was before the court. he wasn't just sort of bringing something in that was rude and

of no relevance. >> you've got another book that's relevant which is one that justice sotomayor wrote where she said it made affirmative action made a difference in her own life. ma do you make of it, when affirmative action is dead? >> well there are four justice whose views are very clear opposed to affirmative action. there are four justice, all four democrat appointees very much in favor of affirmative action. justice kagan is recused from this case. so there are only three justices in the pro-affirmative action side of this case. as always, or often as the case, it comes down to how justice kennedy will come out. and he seemed to be looking for some third way. >> he threw, it seemed like a curveball. help me with this, he said, didn't they remand this? didn't they send this down for more fact finding, i feel like

i'm hearing the same case? >> what's very bizarre, miss fisher who is the plaintiff, the supreme court hears very few cases. they hear even fewer cases twice. this is one of those cases where they're hearing the exact same case twice. and justice kennedy said maybe we should hear it for a theird time after we get more evidence. >> what's the question? >> well, the key question here is, the court has said that we don't want to see distinctions drawn on the basis of race, understand almost any circumstance. so the question in this case, is, is the value of affirmative action, diversity in higher education, so gray that we will make an exception to our general rule of not allowing the government to consider race in any decision. is affirmative action bringing something both to the individuals who are the beneficiaries, and the community as a whole that is worth going

outside the normal rule, which isby don't allow the government to consider race at all. and that's what this does. >> race is not supposed to be an issue. not was always in the context of something to count against you. >> correct. >> the question is if it's the same analysis is something that could help. >> they have now said that the analysis is the same. they have basically said we don't consider race should be considered as a plus or minus in almost any other circumstance. the question is affirmative action and education one of those very few circumstances where we will allow some consideration. >> what's a chance they get a decision versus sending it back down? >> i think based on the way justice kennedy was talking we will not get that. it will be small incremental step one way or another. this case does not look like the blockbuster that it appeared to be to some people. >> jeffrey toobin, thank you very much. what do you think, affirmative

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the marriage between the san bernardino terrorists may have been a sham designed for terrorism. how did the wife fool officials into letting her into the u.s., given her plan for terror? let's bring in republican congresswoman martha masally. she's a retired air force colonel and first female fighter pilot. congresswoman, great to have you here on "new day" with us. so, we now understand from authorities that these two were radicalized years earlier than previously thought. and it sure looks like there were some warning signs that were missed. ma do you think happened?

>> well, as part of my duties on homeland security i was apourapo a bipartisan committee for homegrown fighters and extremism. we have recommendations and this is an example of the threat we're seeing metastasizing, where individuals are getting radicalized. american citizens at home or areas at home in foreign countries. we've got 30,000 traveling from iraq and syria. and others here like the case of the wife here, who slipped under the radar and didn't meet authority's attention to even really be a concern. so we've got challenges and loopholes in the visa waiver program which we addressed a couple days and this certainly is identifying another one. the investigation is still ongoing. but we've got this metastasizing threat globally and homeland that is a generational fight

that we need a comprehensive strategy to attack. >> given what happened in this case, you say it's time to change the process for the fiance visa program, particularly if women are coming in from middle eastern countries, should they be asked more pointed questions about their thoughts on extremism? >> well, i think, again, we need a comprehensive approach to address all of our vulnerabilities. is this certainly one of them. but just doing an inperson interview isn't going to highlight that somebody has been radicalized. of course, if all they're going to do is say they're not radicalized, that's not going to help. experts have shown even our most trained professionals can't detect deception all the time. sometimes, they're able to subfuge, like a 50/50 rate. i've been advocating technologies that we actually have. some of them have been developed in my community, university of arizona, that actually help

detect deception, so if somebody is lying in person or online, there's something that we need. but obviously, it's really tapped out to keep monitoring those that are becoming radicalized. we've got 250 americans that have traveled to iraq and syria. 900 investigations in all 50 states at home. so, this is a significant challenge for them. but i think we need to look at all of the visa processes, and see how we can ensure that somebody isn't slipping through. and there's a variety of vulnerabilities there. >> and before we get to what defense secretary said about the war on isis, one more question about what happened in san bernardino. what about this next door neighbor, this enrique marquez who bought the ar-15s for this couple? they believe he's radicalized in 2011. why hasn't he been charged with anything? >> again, the investigation is ongoing. we're getting a classified briefing this afternoon to get an update.

these are the types of questions that we'll certainly be asking. it's always easier to look back and get a footprint. especially the electronic footprint to see what's going on. again, this brings the point they're moving at the speed of broadband and we're moving at the speed of bureaucracy. if there's individuals that we now have an electronic footprint that they were radicalized, why didn't we know about it at the time? why weren't they reported to law enforcement? often time, it's the first line of defense. the facebook friends, religious leaders, this gets back to if you see something, say something. really this threat is happening all over the communities. not to live in fear, but to be vigilant and just walk by and think that somebody else is going to report that. we've got to keep our eyes open. not turning on each other. making sure that we're keeping our country and community safe.

and the federal government has to do much more. >> very quickly, defense secretary ash carter said yesterday that ice ceus nsis is contained. you're a military woman. what more needs to be done? >> of course, they're not contained. they declared their caliphate 17 months ago. we've had this apeopneemic thre unleash american power to actually destroy their command of control. their logistics, their resources. how they're gaining money from the black market oil. we've had a two-hour briefing yesterday on the rules of engagement and command and control which has validated my deep concerns and frustrations that this administration is -- worse than doing nothing is actually using military force in a way that's not effective, because it adds to their narrative. it adds to their pr campaign. they're propaganda, their recruitment. we've got to unleash air power,

update command and control and engagement. take out the resources, oil infrastructure, everything. in addition to the across-the-board strategy, they're in 19 different countries. not just iraq and syria. this is libya that they're growing. this administration needs to call it what it is and give us a comprehensive strategy. and we need to be all in. >> congresswoman mcsally, thank you. >> to chris. so if you're one of those when you hear what donald trump says, you kind of shake your head. you better watch this neg segment. because he has a growing base of followers and they have great reasons for why they buy into what trump says. we're going to hear from them. we're also going to ask iowa's governor how the latest controversy is affecting the first in the nation voting state. stay with us. without it the virus spreads from cell to cell. only abreva penetrates deep and starts to work immediately

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high school game. austin high was trailing by two in a second left. the missed free throw the player hits the length of the court. and that player's name is oman o oman, but i'm guessing he left everyone in the stands saying "oh man, what a shot". >> you took it from me. thank you very much. so donald trump isn't just refusing to back off. he claims the muslims he knows appreciate what he's doing. a lot of republicans don't appreciate it. but it is a conversation that needs to be had. because the question is well, what are you going to do if you don't like donald trump's ideas? do you have anything better? and what does this mean in the all important iowa caucus? governor from iowa, welcome. >> great to be with you. >> let's get what you think about the concept out of the way and then the implications.

when you hear the idea of banning a faith, even in qualified, even in temporary manner, what do you make of it. >> i think iowans reject that kind of idea. i have concerns about our security. we're concerned the administration isn't taking the threat seriously enough. and we're minding even more and more out about this. so we do need new policies that are striblgter and do a better job screening so that we take this serious -- this threat seriously. but just banning a whole religion, that is not the right answer. >> but your iowans will come to you and say we're afraid governor. and when these come in we can't vet them. look what just happened. i need to be safe from muslims. what do you say? >> well, what we're saying is radical muslims that are committed to jihad that want to

kill us, yes. but there are a lot of muslims that do not share that ideology. so we need to separate the difference between the radical jihadist and the other muslim community. and that is an important distinction to make. >> but they will say you can't. we' we've. >> we've got to do a better job. i don't think the administration is taking the threat seriously. i don't think our efforts against isil have been effective. and we need to change those policies. we heard earlier from a congresswoman about the problems and the information they are getting as governors. we are concerned that we don't want people coming in. well the federal government will not even tell us who they are or who they are being placed with. how can we protect the safety of our citizens if we don't have that information. we need to work together. >> what is the reasoning -- >> i don't know, they're saying they have to protect their secrecy. protecting their secrecy against the safety of our citizens is

not fair, not right, not balanced. and this administration, you know, i look at what franklin roosevelt did after pearl harbor, a day that will live in infamy. we still remember that. after the bombing of the planes that went into the twin towers. the president instead goes on television and advocates gun control dividing the country as opposed to coming up with a policy that brings i us together and meets the external threat we have isis. islamic militants committed to jihad and want to kill us. >> if you are saying you need a leader to unite in times of crisis how do you explain trump leading in iowa and a presumptive favorite there? >> well that is today. i think it will change between now and february 1st. i have a lot of confidence in the iowa voters in making that

decision. but i do think the fact that donald trump has been so forthright and so un -- >> filtered? >> unlike the kind of leadership we have today so people are saying as the contrast. but i don't cathink it is the right contrast. i think we need someone strong but also thoughtful. >> you think despite all the polls donald trump might not wip iowa. >> i do. >> this is from your gut or? >> he's already fallen behind a little bit. >> one poll, two polls. >> and the other thing is all about turn out. who is going to show up? several years ago the lead changed hands several times and the person who ended up winning wasn't ahead until the last week. so let's look again at the end of january. february 1st is the caucus.

and a lot of people will make up their minds at the ends. i someone who are restore america and the economy. >> so you are not sure who your vote is for but you know who it is not for. >> at this point i don't think that donald trump represents what we want for the kind of leadership. i know that a lot of people are excited and enthused about the contrast to the lack of leadership we have today. but i think at the end of the day people are going to decide in a thoughtful way as to who they wanted to lead this nation. and i don't think that he's the one at this point in light of what he just recently said about muslims. >> we'll see how it plays out. governor thank you for being with us. see you at the caucuses. we have a lot of news the

morning. let's get right to it. >> this is cnn breaking news. >> good morning, welcome to your "new day." thursday, december 10, 8:00 in the east. a new national poll painting a very clear picture of the republican race. on top, no surprise. but look at the margin. hugely dominate as trump would say himself. securing the highest level of support. 35% in the "new york times" poll. ted cruz second but distant. carson falling in third. >> a little context for you do. most of the polling was done before trump's controversial deme comments. trump now attempting to add specifics to that plan. he sat down with don lem on the justify those comments. >> we released three national polls last week. you're ahead by far and then you release this controversial statement. why not just sit on your big lead and let it ride?

>> because date of biron i have what's right. we need a dialogue in the country. and throughout the world. we have a big problem. and i have many friends who are muslims. they are phenomenal people. they are so happy at what i'm doing. i was called by three people today. very big. they said you are doing a tremendous service. because unless people are going to be talking about it, it is never going to be solved. the public agrees with what i said. they saw those two animals last week go out and shoot people. and the husband and wife. the wife came here on a phony visa, on a visa that frankly it's disgraceful she was a able to come in and she radicalized radicalized him. a disgusting disgraceful thing. the people with me 100% are the people. and that's all that matters. >> you adjusted it slightly so

you said that you would let american muslims traveling overseas return to the country. this doesn't apply to u.s. citizens? >> from day one it never did. i don't know why people thought it did. it applies to people coming into the country. and all it is is a break until our politicians, who are grossly incompetent by the way, can get their act together. >> and what about -- >> certainly exceptions can be made. and the one thing people didn't pick up. at the end of that sentence it said until we get our hands around it. essentially. until we find out what the hell is going on which is the expression i used. that could go quickly. but do you know what? it is a subject that has to be discussed. >> so there will be exceptions even for international athletes and competitions and -- >> of course. you can't keep people out like that. there will certainly be exceptions made. >> so you have been saying that until we figure out what's going

on. what execute doactly the that i >> why is there such hatred and such viciousness. why is somebody willing to fly airplanes into the world trade center and go after it even prior to that. and they failed and then after they failed they went and actually took airplanes into the world trade center. where does the hatred come from? we have to figure it out. when you surveil mosque, i took a lot of heat for surveillance of the mosques. now others saying we have to surveil the mosques. >> people wondering why are you continuing to do business in the middle east. >> i have great relationships with people. i love the middle east. i love the people. but there is a problem. >> -- effected by the policy you are proposing. >> maybe it will. look. that is one of those things.

what i am doing now is far more important. and i'm talking about for the muslims. i'm doing good for the muslims. what i'm doing now is far more important than any particular business i have in the middle east. i'm doing a big favor. i was just called by one of the most important people of the middle east. and just said to me, donald, you have done a tremendous service to the muslims. because we're making -- nobody wants to talk about it. everybody wants to be so politically correct. oh let everybody come in. we have a problem. and the problem has to be solved. >> let's talk about this. we want to bring in cnn tonight anchor don lemon and hugh hewitt. "new york times" cbs polls and these numbers track almost identically to what cnn east

most recent poll. donald trump at 35%. ted cruz at half that, 16%. then carson 13, rubio 9, bush 3. hugh what are you seeing. >> i think 35% is a significant number. donald trump has a significant lead right now. i do want to go through the numbers. it takes 1236 delegates to get the nomination. those are all proportional delegates. so by march 15 when the winner take alls roll in there are a,000 availab thousand available. if donald trump wins 35% he'll have 300 of the necessary to win. the race is so far from over. but right now after one lap, of

a 14 or 15 lap race donald trump is weigh ahead. and don lemon helped him last night by giving him a lot of opportunity to do a very long extended revision and explanation of his remarks. it was a great interview but that 35% is going to be solid for some time. >> in terms of what he thinks of the ban, did you get a sense he wanted to qualify it, he wanted to make it more palatable, that he felt he had gone too far. >> you know how we conduct these interviews. let's start with a good foot so you can continue the interview. i start with the polls. right away he wanted to talk about the ban and he wanted to continue to talk about it. because i actually do think he thinks it is important. and i don't get the sense he thinks it is wrong. >> did yclarify or you force hi to clarify. >> he wanted to clarify. i wanted to know how would this

work. so it is not for me to judge whether it is right or wrong. it is your plan. this is your plan. explain it. and how are you going to make it work? >> did he give the specifics how he was going to execute it? >> he said we have to have members of our member nations and all of our allies join in to help us with that. of course you are not going to get everyone. there will be exceptions but we've got to start somewhere basically. >> i think you have a bigger problem within the party. the practicalities are obvious. the legalities are arguable but also obvious. you have a moral question here that is going to be a position of leadership, values, what you are and what you are not. and the question is, it is easy for people to say i don't like what trump just said. who is offering something better to acknowledge the fear and make people feel that it can be better? >> i watched don last night.

and again it was a superb interview. donald trump used the word "animal" to describe the people of san bernardino. that is a word with incredibly viscer visceral meaning to those who are afraid. and he'll respond as he did by refining and extending his remarks but what is going on in the heart of republican party is a search for who can viscerally connect with people on a way to completely delvastate hillary clinton who is not viewed as trust worthy. it is not a moral case. i think it is a visceral emotional connection. i'd also point out he's a developer. he always asks for more density than he ends up settling for. i saw last night and the day before a very expert

communicator. and i've said this a million times. he's done more television than anybody else in this race. he uses this camera better than anyone else in this race. but that 35% may be the ceiling. and the most interesting thing last night, about will he stay in the race? as a conservative republican i'm not going to vote for hillary. i'm going to support the republican party. but i leaned in and i'm not sure what i heard. i'd be interested to hear what don heard. >> what does he mean treated fairley? >> it's so februanebulous. but specifically he said if i'm not treated as the front runner by far with that respect and decorum i'm going to do what i have to do. he kept bringing up the republican establishment. and i said you really take issue

with the republican establishment. why. he doesn't feel they take him seriously. that he is indeed the front runner by double digits. if you look at anyone in the polling and the "new york times" released. by double digits he's a front runner. he doesn't feel he gets the respect. >> he doesn't feel it because he doesn't. hugh hewitt, you don't like him in the party. you call us all the time. >> don't say "you guys." i'm just a panelist. >> a lot of your brothers and sisters call us on the phone and say why are you boosting this guy? you know are you just doing this for hillary clinton? he's not going to be the nominee. what are you wasting the time? he's right to feel that the gop isn't embracing him. >> it was funny. last night he made clear comments on gun control and dismissed completely irrelevant to the question of terror in america. ideas that magazine rounds will stop animals with pipe bombs. 19 pipe bombs. when he does that and i point out he was very clear on gun

control a lot of trump's opponents took to twitter to denounce me. there are a lot of people that don't like donald trump. there are a lot to do. he's got 35% of the first 1 thousa ,000. it is so long to go. it used to be you won iowa you got a lot of media attention and you do well in new hampshire. you can't get anymore media attention than trump's got. so on that stage, marco rubio, chris christie, and whoever else i've forgotten they all need to pile in on donald trump. if he thinks that is not treated him fairly, that would be misinformed. the front runner always get dog piled. they are going to catch up to

donald trump in the next couple of weeks. >> the guy that carries the ball gets hit. >> why are people criticizing me? you are carrying the ball. you are going to get hit. >> we'll let you go. right now we are only five days from the final republican debate of the year right here on cnn of course. coverage begins tuesday night at 6:00 eastern. that is the undercard debate. then the main event at 8:30. >> was the marriage of the two san bernardino shooters a sham? the fbi investigating now whether it was arranged in order to carry out that attack. cnn also learning the wife was not questioned about jihadist intentions during the visa screening process overseas. >> reporter: what we're learning this morning is really raising new questions about how it is possible these two killers managed to fly under law enforcement radar for so long. we're getting a better look at

the timeline of their radicalization. it appears the intelligence failures are bigger than first thought. new shocking details emerging about the husband and wife terrorists behind san bernardino attacks. the fbi revealing they were radicalized before they even met each other or started dating online two years ago. >> as early as the end of 2013 they were talking to each other about jihad and martyr dom before they became engaged and married. >> malik is seen here arriving on a fiancé visa in the summer of 2014. the pakistani native was never asked about her jihadist or radical views when interviewed. officials say it is because the department of homeland security found no flags in her visa application. and she passed two other security database checks. since farook is an american born

citizen, officials are now wondering if their marriage was a sham, arranged to carry out a long-planned terror attack. >> is there any evidence that this marriage was arranged by a terrorist organization or terrorist operativoperative. >> i don't know the answer to that yet. >> do you agree if it was arranged by a terrorist operative or a organization that would be a game changer. >> that would be a good thing to know. >> farook's friend and former neighbor told investigators that they were both radicalized in early 2011 and plotted an attack in early 2012. but after terror-related arrests in area they stopped the plan. marquez also admitted to buying farook guns. but he told investigators he didn't know about the couple's plans. he has yet to be charged with a crime. >> we're also working very hard

to understand whether there was anybody else involved with assisting them, with supporting them, with equipping them. and we're working very very hard to understand did they have other plans. >> we understand there has been a breakthrough in accessing some of the couple's electronics communications. remember the couple made great lengths to destroyer their cell phones. there was a computer hard drive that is still missing. but we've learned the fbi has managed to find some electronics communications on other cell phones and a tablet computer that was also found inside the couple's town home. alisyn. >> okay. it will be interesting to see what those contain. anna. thank you. and we'll press the state department about how they missed this couple's sinister plan during the visa screening process. that's next. i've smoked a lot

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new information coming out of the san bernardino investigation, and it is not good. word that the marriage between the two san bernardino terrorists may have been a sham designed to facilitate the eventual attack. meanwhile the wife comes out when she was getting her visa application done as the fiancé. wasn't asked about jihadist tendencies. should she have been? people are afraid, john. they think you can't catch the bad guys and that is why donald

trump is saying we have to ban all muslims. how can you reassure the american people they are safe? >> we you said those concerns and fears and we take nothing more seriously here. i can tell you we're watching the investigation closely, chris. we don't have any indications that the screening process for ms. malik was any different for any other fiancé or that there were any things missing inside the process. but i can tell you this, if the investigation turns up information that there was something amiss in the process or that it needs to be improved to make it more rigorous, we'll do that. >> fair criticism that she should have been asked about jihadist tendencies and activities? >> i don't want to get into the investigation. those are things they should be asking. i can tell you she went through

the same rigorous process that every other person applying for a k1 fiancé visa goes through. again, if we find areas to improve the process or mistakes that have been made we'll be accountable and make the proper changes. >> that is what i'm asking you, do you think that you have to start asking muslim people from pakistan if they have jihadist tendencies in. >> without going into the specifics of the actual process, it includes fingerprint, it includes a series of background checks. there is a face-to-face interview that has occur. there is a multi layered approach here. and it is not just the state department doing this with departments overseas. it is also here in the united statesem and it is a team effort. we're going to look very closely and if we have to improve again we will. >> when you look at the consequences, it seems these two were doing little but plan

against the united states. they were radicalized before. moving money around. how come none of this was picked up? >> that is part of the investigation, again, chris. i don't want to get ahead of investigators in the very important work that they are doing. clearly these individuals had an intent to do harm and that is never a good thing. obviously we take that very seriously. but in terms of motive, in terms of timing and planning, i'd leave that to the investigators to speak to. >> right. my question goes to what they don't know. not what they do know. that is what's fuelling the fear. this started outs maybe workplace. then maybe he round up getting hoodwink birthded by a radicali woman. now no. he was radicalized well before. >> i think as the investigation goes on more information may come to light and i think we all just need to let investigators

do their work. you are right, there have been a series of statements now and information out there that changes the perspective on this attack. and i think that that may continue as investigators keep doing their work. but chris you know as well as i, somebody wishes to do harm. if that is their intent and they have that from the get go it is very very difficult for them to be completely stopped. now, i say that knowing in fact that law enforcement and the fbi and the department of justice and homeland security have stopped countless attacks on our soil, things that never got off the ground and got started because of the great investigative work they do. but every now and then somebody is going to get through. it is a reality that is certainly not something we're glad about. but when somebody has that intent, it can be very difficult. they have to be right once, we have to be right 24/7. >> fair. the odds are against you. what do you think of a moratorium on all immigration until we figure out how to better police the united states?

>> well i think secretary kerry spoke to this the other day. one of the great things we have to balance in the country is the national security, obviously the safety and security of the people, as well as the foundation of our country as an immigrant society and a welcoming country. we have to balance those things and we're doing -- we're working at that very very hard. but i this i to stop all immigration would be to not only go against our own policies. but it would be going against our culture and our tradition as a country. and i don't think that serves anybody at all. now it also would feed the narrative isil wants to feed, that america isn't a fair and open society. that we are persecuting or discriminating against people of a certain faith. that is not who we are and we think it would be manifestly counterproductive. >> thank you very much. trump supporters meanwhile are sounding off and defending the republican front runner.

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a new national poll this morning shows donald trump again dominate. the "new york times" cbs poll puts trump with more than a two to one advantage over his nearest rival. most of this polling was before trump's controversial statements about muslims. he also claimed to see,000s of muslims celebrating in new jersey on 9/11. i sat down and asked what people thought of trump and the truth. >> next topic. the truth. and donald trump's relationship with the truth. much has been made about he exaggerates claims. but let's talk about some of the examples whether or not he was telling the truth.

he said that on 9/11 there were thousands and thousands of people in new jersey celebrating. that has proven not to be true. >> i think what he actually said was that he was in jersey city jersey on 9/11 and yes like you said he saw,000s of people celebrating. but he didn't get into specifics. did he see it on tv. >> either way there weren't thousands of people celebrating. >> in manhattan alone there were over a dozen that was arrested because they were celebrating. >> people have made the point that eight people celebrating on a rooftop in jersey is different than thousands and thousands. in fact the mayor, the police chief have said we were on guard. did not happen. so are you comfortable with donald trump's relationship with the truth? >> i'm a hundred percent

comfortable with it. when san bernardino happened, the first terrorist attack on american soil since 9 lech, let me tell you something. it brought back a lot of bad memories for all of us. especially new yorkers. i'm a new yorker. i watched as those tourist were coming down. and i don't care about upsetting a few muslims or upsetting a few people. because when i think of 9/11, every day. i think of the firearm's faces as they were running into the towers to save people. this they were rushing towards death, okay? and i think of all of the little boys and the little girls that lost their heros that morning, their moms and their dads. i think of that. that is what i care about and what donald trump cares about. i think of the lives and moms and dads and weeks and months or years and maybe even today are still crying themselves to sleep. what is that 9/11 means to us. i could care less about a few

people who are upset. i could care less about people saying they don't like donald trump's dontone. we need a true leader and donald trump is that leader. >> in 2001 i lived in new jersey about 20 miles in the world trade center and watched them burning. and i also watched on television people in jersey city or patterson, cities east of where i lived, celebrating in the streets. what he said, whether it was thousands or hundreds or tons of people happened. i watched on television at time and it was common knowledge in new jersey at that time that people were celebrating what happened in new york. >> let me be clear. he said thousands and thousands of people were celebrating. and to your point, if i'm understanding to you it doesn't matter what the number is. >> i wouldn't swear it was thousands but i would swear there were a lot of people in the streets in cities celebrating what happened on september 11th. >> he didn't say i was in jersey

city and saw people in jersey thousands and thousands in jersey city. he just said i was in jersey city. what was he? was he in his office? hotel room like some of us at home and turning on the tv and saw images. there were. >> the gaza strip is different than jersey city. >> there were -- >> when you say thousands of people, i mean these people come to our country and they still came and they cheered when those planes went through those towers. they are in our country. i don't care if it was one person. i don't care if it was two people. they were in the streets cheering. and we should respect these people who took down the towers. and,0 thousands of people all or the world. but i feel a lot safer knowing that mr. trump will be our president. >> as far as the truth goes, we've got people in positions of power who i know for a fact are

liars. liars. i watched the tv my -- my president comes on the tv and he lies to me. i know he's lying. he lies all the time. i don't believe any one of them. not one. i believe donald. >> um-hmm. exactly. >> i'm telling you. he says what i'm thinking. >> exactly. >> never been involved in politics. never had an interest in any of it. now suddenly he is resonating. he is resonating with the people and he's speaking our minds. our minds. when the pundits and the experts and all of the people who are supposed to be in the know and know all of this stuff and they are so great. i know some of them, maybe not all. but some of them are lying to me. straight to my face. and i am so sick of it. >> you can hear all of the passion. here to respond jeffrey lord.

and cnn political commentator and jeb bush supporter anna navarro. you hear the passion of these trump supporters and look it is reflected again in this new "new york times" poll. let me pull it up. this is at 7:00 a.m. eastern. trump has 35%. he's gone up since october when he had 22%. look at these numbers anna. ted cruz second at 16%. there's ben carson. marco rubio, 9% and jeb bush at 3%. how do you explain these numbers anna? >> is it too early for me to drink on national tv? >> no. be free. >> look, you know, i think we have seen this same pattern now for many months with donald trump holding on top. i think he's got a very committed level of supporters who are not leaving him. a very interesting movement there frankly is ted cruz.

he's coming up on his heels. it is going to be a very interesting dynamic to watch at the debate next week who that bro mans that used to exist between trump and cruz turns into now that he feels ted cruz yapping at his heels. i think what you saw in that focus group is angst, anger, distrust of government. distrust of the political system. frustration with the dysfunction. i think people are fed up. and definitely donald trump is tapping into all of those feelings. also two of these people teared up while speaking. that is the depth of how strongly they feel about their country and they feel about what's happening and they feel about the fear. and donald trump obviously is tapping into all of that. >> you know, i find this very much like the reagan phenomenon if you will. when you listen to that last

woman t passion in her voice and the fact that she said that she generally never gets involved in this stuff and has never paid attention. that was also true with ronald reagan. he brought out a lot of people o who never participanted in politics before. they were just that passionate and upset a lot of the people in the republican establishment who in the day just didn't seem to see these people. and they certainly couldn't attract them. these kind of people didn't come out to vote for gerald ford. they didn't come out to vote for george h.w. but they came out in droefs to vote for ronald reagan. that is what's quite striking here. donald trump is not ronald reagan but he's attracting the same kind of people. >> there is another poll. it speaks to the fear. and it's the flipside, the

people who fear donald trump. one-third of republicans fear donald trump. hillary clinton people also fear. so the two front runners on both side of the aisle. so explain that paradox anna. >> i think what you see is a divided republican party. a divided america. a polarized republican party. a polarized america. and you are seeing some of the same thing on the democrat side. you know, you have got two front runners who also have the highest numbers of untrustworthiness. it is a very strange paradigm going on right now in american politics. and i think there are a lot of republicans who are seeing what's going on with donald trump with great concern. how much repair there will have to be with the muslims the

hispanics the -- no, none of these people love him and he's burnt a lot of bridges and caused damage and i think a lot of us are watching with consternation. >> do you think we should be concerned? >> no. again. i remember all kinds of republicans who said they would never vote for a republican nominee if ronald reagan was that nominee. when we get long down the road if in fact they are donald trump and hillary clinton, all of this is going to refocus and when people are faced if that is the choice. frankly any choice. there are always going to be negatives about candidate a and candidate b. and people up against it, they will pick. i think it's way too soon but certainly there is precedent and i certainly -- i mean i knew people who said they could never vote for ronald reagan and today they think he's is greatest

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welcome back to "new day." we have a treat for you. comedian and actor steve carell flexes his muscles in the new film "the big short." he plays a fun manager. he has an inside look at impending doom on wall street in 2008. here is a taste. >> you have no idea the kind of crap people are pulling and everyone's walking around like they are in a damn nya video.

they care about the ball game or they care about what actresses went into rehab. >> i think you should try medication. >> you hate your job. >> i love my job. >> you're miserable. >> i love my job. >> joining us is the one and only steve carell. nice to have you here. >> nice to be here. >> what an interesting thing to take on. what was the appeal for you? >> i thought the script was great. the script presented very dry subject matter in an entertaining way. and the director adam mckay posed that to me. he knew this was complicated material. but he wanted it to be entertaining and make it accessible and fun to a certain extent. >> you are very real world friendly. not all actors are. you pay attention to what's going on in the news. how much of this was an education for you. >> most of us was an education.

at the time, you know, you read the paper. you follow the news. but i didn't know the depths of the deceit and the corruption displayed in the film and certainly in the script. and it was interesting taking on a character like this. >> when you were doing that, who did you want to be? how did you want to be? what was important to you to portray? >> well it is based on a real life person. the character's name is based on real guy from a hedge fund. and i met with him. i met his family. and i wanted to kind of gain access to his world a little bit. because it is a completely foreign language to me. i don't know anyone in that world. and we had advisors. we had people helping us through it. adam mckay, the director likes to improvise in films too. so we all had to have a little bit of knowledge in our back pocket. so when he'd ask us to spin on something we could do it and not

sound like complete idiots. >> watching you in outtakes have cost me a filling or two in the past. i'm going to prepare myself that for that. so genius. but you also have access to things that with make people feel and think. you have to two schools. one is how the system was and, you know, i had to be saved because otherwise we all would have gone down. and the other one is no, they made it into the casino. we let them do it and then we bailed them out. >> there is a moral conflict between the characters in the film because they all stand to make great gains on the back of other people's, you know, complete failure. so there is that going on, which i think is interesting certainly as an actor to portray a character like that. what do i want people to take away? it is a movie and you can only set expectations so high. you hope that it at least starts a conversation. people walk out of the theater and that seems to be the case.

people seem to be walking outlet and engaging with other. and talking about what happened and what could potentially happen again. >> there are inflections of mostly irony but also as humor in what is a drama. people should know that. you certainly bring out things that by dint of their ridiculous wind up being funny and ironic. but there is a drama. and a lot of people got taken really low by what happened. >> it is in the eyes of the beholder. some will look at it as comedy. i didn't necessarily enter into it as a comedy but you are right there are some really funny moments and adam mckay is known for his comedy so he brings sort of an absurdist outlook on the world. and it is funny. they break the fourth wall from time to time and adam has pop culture icons sort of breaking

down those complicated financial theories and there are definitely moments that make it much more inclusive. >> you had a lot of cosmetic surgery and did a lot of steroids for this movie. >> yes. before the movie. that is just for me. >> that is -- i just like. i love botox. i'm a huge, huge fan. >> because your face, it is tough to interview you as the result. >> well my face -- what i've done is underneath the skin i have an infrastructure of mechanisms that a person backstage is controlling. >> in real time. >> in real time. >> so when i -- you know he knows back there when i'm supposed to look surprised. and i have these metal calipers here that raise my eyebrows. but otherwise i couldn't do it naturally. >> i heard that. i'm glad you substantiate it for the record. is it true that is not your real face? that you did have a transplant early on just not in america you just don't talk about it. >> i've had four so far. yes. >> i appreciate your honesty.

we know the big man is listening. especially around the holidays. >> i'm always aware. >> the big short starts in new york and l.a. tomorrow and you can see it nationwide december 23rd. please do. >> thanks chris. we just learned that that man, steve carell, just received a golden globe nomination for his performance. congratulations. who else is getting a nod? those announcements just ahead. . so when my asthma symptoms kept coming back on my long-term control medicine, i talked to my doctor and found a missing piece in my asthma treatment. once-daily breo prevents asthma symptoms. breo is for adults with asthma not well controlled on a long-term asthma control medicine, like an inhaled corticosteroid. breo won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. breo opens up airways to help improve breathing for a full 24 hours. breo contains a type of medicine that increases the risk of death from asthma problems and may increase the risk of hospitalization in children and adolescents. breo is not for people whose asthma is well controlled on a long-term asthma control medicine, like an inhaled corticosteroid.

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people, hot off the press, the hollywood foreign press. just announcing the golden globe

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al pacino. and best actress. cate blanchett. bree larson. rooney mara. amy schumer in train wreck. mag give smitgie smith. it's very interesting how the different groups judge the nominations and they have different favorites. you know these guys favor the big names. the golden globe, the foreign press skoegs. >> does it bother you about carell now that you know it is not his real face?

>> you got him to admit his vast history of plastic surgery. fantastic. >> have you seen a lot of the films? >> no. will now. >> the big show is january 10th a month from today. you can get all the nominations online. >> fantastic. thanks for bringing that us. newsroom happens after this quick break. ok, we're here. here's dad. mom. the twins. aunt alice... you didn't tell me aunt alice was coming. of course. don't forget grandpa. can the test drive be over now? maybe just head back to the dealership? don't you want to meet my family? yep, totally. it's practically yours, but we still need your signature. the volkswagen sign then drive event. zero due at signing,

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good morning, i'm pamela brown in for pamela costello. thank you so much for being here with me. we begin with a race to the white house where donald trump is leaving his republican rivals behind. a new cbs "new york times" poll showing 35% of gop voters back trump. more than double the support of his closest competitor ted cruz. cruz at 16%, followed by carson at 13%. marco rubio and jeb bush both in single digits round out the top five. cnn sunland joins me