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griffin. and thanks so much for joining. happy new year, ""ac 360" "begins right now. good evening. i'm jim sciutto in for anderson. we begin tonight with breaking news. as the year ends, a terror threat looms. top u.s. security officials bereav briefed president obama about possible attacks here in the u.s. on three cities, new york, washington and los angeles. we should point out officials say the threat is uncorroborated at this point based on a single source it does not mention specific locations in those cities, however, with new years eve just a day a way with the big crowds that gather to celebrate it, and given the global concern about the capabilities of both isis and al qaeda, officials are taking this threat seriously and addressing
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it with tightened security. 6,000 police officers will be watching more than ever before. cnn justice reporter is in time jar tonight. evan, always hard to judge these threats specific, credible, et cetera. what do we know about this particular threat? >> reporter: that's right, jim. the president gets briefing on all threats. some are credible, some are not. in this case he asked for a briefing from his top officials before he left for his vacation in hawaii and this is one of the threats that was mentioned to him. now, when you're talking about new york, you think about times square and the fact that behind me in 24 hours, we'll have about a million people here gathered, 6,000 police officers from the nypd will be here, the fbi boosted the number of agents and personnel here in washington and los angeles, the big concern is the rose bowl which draws a lot of visitors, a lot of tourists
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and obviously a big tv audience for both the parade and football game. it should be noted that as usual, you hear from the homeland security department they know of no credible specific threat of a terrorist attack in this country. that said, you know, we talked to officials all the time, you and i and we hear the same thing, the thing they worry about are plots they don't know yet, they don't know anything about. that happens a lot. for instance, san bernardino was not on anyone's radar and that attack was carried out. same thing with paris. that's why you see boosted presence of police here in new york and see the same in los angeles and in other places around the country. >> evan, as always, with this, there is security you see and security you don't see, right, in response to a threat like this? >> reporter: right. exactly. exactly. behind me, we already see a lot of police officers with long guns but you also -- there's a lot of officers here not wearing uniforms and not visible and in
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new york, you'll have a lot of surveillance cameras all over the place and, you know, the question here is all the focus on places like times square, the nypd says they are also keeping an eye on the subways and other parts of new york so make sure people are safe. >> final question and this is one i'm sure you get from friends and colleagues, as well, is to be clear, no new york officials or u.s. officials are saying to anyone stay home tomorrow night, correct? they are not encouraging, you know, locking the door and staying inside. >> reporter: exactly. exactly. the isis threat is something that is new for this country and the fbi director calls it crowd source terrorism and that's a reason you see the concern. that said, people -- the officials want people to go out and celebrate and leave it up to the fbi and nypd and people to be vigilant but don't want you to stay at home out of fear because that's what the terrorists want us to do. >> right. evan perez, great to have you
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there. appreciate it. to breaking news from the flood ravaged midwestern united states. the death toll from flooding in missouri alone has risen to 14 after a driver's body was recovered and vehicle swept off a road in crawford county there. in a suburb of st. louis, am mature video captured this house in flood waters and hitting a bridge. we're told tonight the worst isn't over in missouri. the national weather service in st. louis is warning of quote historic flooding extending through early next week with record-breaking water levels expected. cnn's martin savidge is in missouri by the flood waters and joins me live. martin, the rivers in missouri have been flooding at record levels. what's the latest tonight? have they crested yet or are the waters still rising?
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>> reporter: small indication there is a slight decrease in the water levels here in pacific where we are but this is one community indicated with water or facing the threat and look at the background. you can see where the water is but you can see how pitch black it is. there is no electricity, no lighting back there. that is the flood zone. again, this is a disaster that has -- well, they are running out of adjectives to describe it. history is the word to use, historic over and over as they try to compare it to the great flood of 1993 and some say 1982 and some go back to 1919. many residents say they never seen water levels like this, not in their lifetime growing up. and it has triggered catastrophic events. the water rescues are on going in many parts of this state. you got three rivers, major rivers that are all facing the potential for records and breaking those records not by maybe an inch or two in some
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cases, by feet. and then of course there is going to be the cost and the cleanup. the governor surveying from the air and it is just staggering to see all of this water particularly at this time of year as you know, jim, this would be something perhaps anticipated with a spring thaw, not new years eve or almost there, jim? >> we've heard some warnings about more rain particularly down stream from where you are, but i suppose the other issue when you talk to meteorologist and others, all this water has to go somewhere and as its flooding, it's not necessarily -- the river is not doing its job, is that right? it's not taking the water further south. is that one reason why the flooding is expected to stay a threat for so many days? >> reporter: there's a number of strange things that have been going on. number one, this event was triggered initially in missouri. they had incredible rainfall last weekend, almost a foot of
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rain. traditionally, major flood events like this start up in minnesota way up north. they see it coming, days weeks to prepare. they had only hours in some communities. so now this water level as you point out is going to move into oth other parts, primarily the mississippi. states like mississippi, cities like new orleans begin either putting out their emergency plans or gettin very serious about those plans because they know it's coming their way and everyone in between will feel it. >> a lot of big cities down stream from there. martin savidge, thanks very much. a startling development today, the allegations against bill cosby, at least 50 women accused cosby of sexual assaulting them over decades. cosby always denied the acquisitions and counter sued some of the alleged victims and crucially he has never faced any criminal charges, until today. the first person to publicly
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accuse cosby of sexual assault was a former temple university employee. now, those accusations have led to three felony charges in a pennsylvania court. cosby was arraigned today. his bail set at $1 million. the accuser said cosby drugged and assaulted her in 2004. today's charges come just before the statute of limitations for such alleged crimes runs out in this case. jean casarez joins me with more. you were in the courtroom today. tell us what that scene was like. >> reporter: today everything happened so quickly and in the courtroom is a very short proceeding but there is so much i can tell you from it. bill cosby arrived and he was hand and hand with one of his attorneys seemingly like he couldn't see well. in fact, he had to be guided through the very small courtroom behind me to his seat. once he sat down, he had attorney on either side. the magistrate judge came in and the proceeding began and the
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proceeding is very short because an arraignment is to establish constitutionally you're aware of the charges. so the judge apprised him alleged aggravated indecent assault and so that he understood the charges and then she said, i have set your bail at $1 million. cosby was listening. he was focused. he didn't show any out ward emotion as the judge was really directing the conversation right to him, but when she talked about the passport, his attorney jumped up. he had the passport in his pocket. he took it out, and he gave it to the prosecutor saying your honor, we're surrendering the passport right here, right now and the judge said there are conditions of your bail. first of all, you cannot have any contact with your complaint, alleged accuser and went on saying if there is any violation of this, he would be arrested and she reiterated, you can have no contact with your complaint
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tant. he said who? she said the accuser in the case. she said do you understand this? he said yes i do loud. he had a smile on his face but not arrogant, wasn't a joking smile. it was a serious smile. and almost with that she said mr. cosby, good luck. and he said thank you. and he left the courtroom. >> jean, just to help our viewers understand, this alleged crime occurred in 2004, so 1 1 years ago. the allegation was already public. the accuser has gone public. in the simplest terms, in laymen's terms, why did it result in criminal charges just today? >> first of all, the statute of limitation, the length of time to bring the case was going to expire early next year. it's a 12-year statute of limitations in pennsylvania. so they actually could still bring it and the district attorney said that it was because of brand new evidence in july. well, that is when we know that
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a 2005 civil deposition from this very case became part of it so interesting is that we learned today for the first time that mr. cosby gave a statement to police in 2005 which almost and basically says exactly the same thing as that deposition, that there was sexual contact between he and andrea constand. he believes it was consensual. she of usually is saying she was drugged but even though he said that to investigators in 2005, the district attorney at the time bruce caster opted to not bring charges saying he didn't have enough evidence but now but with his deposition they must believe they do. >> the court will decide. coming up, more breaking news, the so-called affluenza team is staying in mexico for now but his mother is on a plane now headed back to the u.s. stunning new developments when 360 comes back. details.
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breaking news, tonya couch, the mother of ethan couch is on her way back to the u.s. but her son staying in mexico with his newly died hair. he's fighting deportation and seeking legal shelter. the defense team said he's too rich, too spoiled for a prison term after a deadly drunk driving accident is accused of probation violations. mother and son were arrested by mexican police on monday in a tourist hot spot after a three week manhunt. this may surprise you, it didn't stay hidden they were wanted from texas authorities.
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here is video, that's ethan at a butcher shop two hours before they were captured by mexican authorities. his mom was at the same store just days before. ed joins us with more. so, ed, ethan and his mother tonya, they are being split up after weeks on the run. what are we learning tonight about how that played out? >> it's interesting and something that developed in the last couple hours. we are told by mexican authorities sources there telling us that ethan couch is not process of being moved from guadalajara mexico and being moved to mexico city. in the meantime, his mother is now in the process of being deported back to the united states. we're told she is on a flight from guadalajara to los angeles. we're told by u.s. marshal officials she would be escorted by several mexican immigration officials then she would land there and be turned over to the u.s. marshals and be handcuffed and begin the process of facing
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criminal charges she faces in texas. when she'll be back here in texas isn't clear. marshals and texas authorities are hesitant to share the logistics how that would play out. tonya couch on her way back here to the united states, ethan couch moving to mexico city. >> we know ethan couch filed a petition in mexican courts asking for their protection and that could take time. do we have any idea how long this process could last in mexico? >> originalli lly earlier in thy and this is what has spurred this change and legal process eat earn couch is not going through according to u.s. marshals could delay his return here significantly, he is not scheduled a judge until sometime
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next week and several more weeks before whether or not he continued and we don't know until then whether or not he'll be sent back to the united states in fort worth to face. >> lots to discuss. a criminal defense attorney. how does his mother get deported today and accused of the same thing running to mexico. >> very good question. and to get a u.s. citizens back to mexico when they are fugitives in mexico. one is extradition and the other simple or faster more stream line process is simple deportation and these were both, both the couches were not mexican citizens, mexico will not deport obviously its own
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citizens but they may have stood in slightly different legal positions. ethan couch for example might raise the argument he's being prosecuted in an unfairway whereas his mother was not currently under prosecution. that's one possible theory. either way, both filed like a habeas proceeding here in the united states where you challenge the underlying legality of the proceedings and when it's filed, the proceedings, extradition or deportation proceedings will be stayed. a legal word that means you're hitting the pause button until the challenge is resolved. this could go on for a period of time depending how long it takes. >> so one question, mexico has extradition treaty with the u.s., but even with that, it doesn't happen instantaneously. it still has to go through a
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legal process in mexico. >> yes and no. extradition usually takes longer, a general property station more paperwork but u.s. marshals probably much prefer deportation. it's faster, it doesn't require the same amount of paperwork and it can be done in a matter of days depending on how fast these two agencies, these two entities, two countries work out a deportation proceeding but any time you have two separate solve earn nations seeking to move different citizens back and forth there is a huge range and any u.s. marshal will tell you it could take a couple days or weeks. it depends how it's coordinated. >> you're a criminal defense attorney. what does ethan couch possibly have to gain from fighting this now through the mexican courts. it's certainly not going to change the alleged crime that he would be facing in the u.s. what advantage is he trying to
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seek here? >> the first mantra in criminal defense, in the face of overwhelmingly bad odds you have to fight but in this case, ethan couch may be challenging the underlying prosecution against him in the united states. for example, if a criminal defendant is subjected to, say, the death penalty, which is not the case here, sometimes a requested country like mexico may pause before they give that defendant back to the u.s. or whatever other country. that's not the case here, but ethan couch's lawyers in mexico and the united states will have to get very creative to challenge this proceeding. >> danny, thank you. confusing case. you made me a little smarter tonight. appreciate it. a lot of packed airports this week with holiday travelers heading home. tonight an exclusive 360 investigation at two major airports where some police officers are unarmed and say they are actually told to run away if there is an attack. when emergency room doctors choose an otc pain reliever
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this is, of course, a busy week to travel. a lot of people heading back and forth after family holiday gathering. o'hare is one of the busiest airports and it along with chicago's midway is part of a 360 investigation. we want to know why some of the police officers assigned to protect both airports are not allowed to carry weapons. they work alongside armed police officers but there is one major difference. if there is an attack at any terminal, these aviation police officers say they are trained and told to run away and now those officers are speaking out.
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here is senior investigative correspondent drew griffin. >> reporter: take a look around the passenger terminals at o'hare and you will see what appear to be police officers but take a closer look. not one of them is carrying a gun. in the vent of an active shooter or terrorist strike, you might be surprised how they have been told to fight back, not fight back, not neutralize the threat but to run. you don't have guns, do you feel safe when you're working? >> no, sir. >> reporter: do you feel almost as if you're a sitting target? >> absolutely. >> reporter: not for lack of training or licensing or experience. aviation police officers are all sworn officers in the state of illinois. they get the same training as chicago police, and many are military veterans or have second jobs in suburban police
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departments. these two officers speaking in silhouette for fear of being fired, all they want is to carry a gun like any law enforcement officer. two years ago at los angeles international airport, a man with an assault rifle killed a tsa officer, wounded several others before being shot and wounded by an armed police officer. if the same event took place in chicago's two airports, the nearnea nearly 300 unarmed police would be defenseless. in the event of let's say a terrorist attack or shooter, what are you supported to do? >> run. >> hide. >> reporter: hide? >> seek shelter. >> reporter: this internal chicago aviation department document obtained from aviation department sources outlines the policy. if evacuation is not possible, hide. we must also ensure that unarmed security personnel do not
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attempt to become part of the response. here is the training video officers say they were instructed to watch. >> if evacuation is not possible, you should find a place to hide where the active shooter is less likely to find you. block entry to your hiding place. and lock the doors. >> there is nothing but casualties if you tell us to run and hide and how can the public look at us if they see police officers running and hiding, that goes against the very oath we swore to and took. >> reporter: it's the chicago police who carry guns at both airports since they are the primary law enforcement agency if there is a major arrest, they must wait for chicago police to show up, a unique arrangement among major u.s. airports. >> it doesn't make any sense. >> reporter: matt brandon is an official with the union that represents aviation police officers. >> so basically, no disrespect to the officers but as their role, they are gore fied security guards. >> that's exactly right and my
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question to the city is you send these men and women to the chicago police academy to be trained as police officers to be able to respond as police officers to be able to act as police officers. >> reporter: the chicago police department has 231 armed officers and the city says that's enough. so, too, does the chicago aviation deputy about its unarmed force and the staffing level of armed police is for the most part similar to other major u.s. airports. if you compare the top three busiest airports in the u.s., atlanta's heartsfield-jackson has 178 armed police. los angeles, 572. while o'hare is budgeted 175. the numbers do not include additional security such as private security personnel. in an e-mail to cnn, the aviation department says the multi level security has proven
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effective in stopping and preventing crime and violent crime incidents are extremely low but no explanation why the nearly 300 aviation police officers are unarmed. the department is declining to discuss security measures. cnn surveyed large u.s. airports and found chicago's use of unarmed aviation police officers is unique and according to miami security expert wayne black absurd. >> you got sworn law enforcement officers at a u.s. airport trained to hide if there is an attack. that's crazy. airports are targets of terror activity. what will they do if someone runs in with a gun and there is no law enforcement officer there. >> reporter: in october a man caught with these knives attempted to get on the air field and told the officers he knew they were not even armed. the gun issue is part of an on going dispute between the officers and their chief, chicago's aviation police recently took a no confidence vote against edge worth calling
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him incompetent and someone who exerts control over intimidation and fear. despite the vote, his boss says he has the full confidence and trust of the aviation department. edgeworth won't answer numerous phone calls from cnn and when we approached him to answer questions, he did what his officers are supposed to do if anyone approaches them armed. drew griffin with cnn. we want to ask why your officers aren't armed? >> i don't have any -- >> reporter: the only aviation police officers in the united states not armed. would the public be better protected if they were armed and wouldn't they be able to engage a threat instead of having to run and hide. >> that was drew griffin reporting. up next, politics 2015 style from donald trump's morphing into the near disappearance and bernie sanders challenging hillary clinton.
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rules of the campaign, donald trump, of course, would be the front runner, the sustained front runner for months now clearly tapping into simmering anger over immigration, fear of terrorism and a broader frustration with anger for washington and traditional politicians. democrats, they have their own upstart candidate in bernie sanders and hillary clinton still leading on that side. here are a few highlights from the trail this year. >> first of all, i want to build a wall. >> i tried to stab someone. >> when mexico sends its people, they are not sending their best. they are bringing drugs. they are bringing crime. they are rapist. >> the american people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn e-mails. >> thank you, me, too. >> women all over this country heard clearly when mr. trump said. >> i think she's a beautiful woman. [ applause ] >> sorry. >> i know where she went.
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it's disgusting. i don't want to talk about it. >> certainly a lot to talk about with our panel, p.g. ocrourke ad carl bernstein, author of "a woman in charge, the life of hilary rodham clinton" and knee ya mallika henderson. i don't know where to begin because so many what we thought were rules have been broken here, it's almost like the anti candidate is the one who has the advantage. i just wonder, you brought down a president with your reporting, some 40 years ago. have you ever seen anything like what we've observed this year? >> no, and it's about the country and the state of fear and anger of many people. it's also you use the word reality tv. a lot of this campaign is about a new kind of reality
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hillary clinton is one of the great celebrities and so is donald trump. they are aware people are et going their information from increasingly is social media, matt drudge, fox, cable news. this is very untraditional. so all the old norms are out of the box and we have a new situation in terms of how we conduct an election and who the candidates are and the fact that the republican party agenda is now being driven by someone whose a demagogue and neo fastest. >> we talk about reality tv, there is an element to donald trump but what is funny or sad is that reality almost doesn't h matter, right, because so often we're in a fact free zone in much of the political debate. >> totally. >> you could challenge a candidate with something he or
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she said but now you can't say that, you're in the media, you're lying? >> anybody who doesn't understand donald trump, doesn't drink enough. because every bar in the country along about 11:30 at night has got three or four donald trumps in them, and you can no more hold them to account the next day than you can hold donald to account the next day. >> so nia, of course we talk about donald trump a lot but he's not alone in controversial comments. you have a candidate who was a front runner as well for a long time and ben carson that made an effort to assure people that he tried to stab someone or hit someone in the heat with a hammer when he was a kid, which gets to the idea that it's not just trump that's profiting from this, you know, really this counter washington sort of view of the world, right? anything that doesn't fit with the washington norm is popular, incredible, right? >> that's right.
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this idea that you raise of the anti candidate and anti obama. ben carson rose to fame because he bay suckly tobasically told a prayer breakfast in 2013 like getting obamacare to savely at one point said more off color things than that and also about personalities, right? very much the personalities we've seen whether it's donald trump, ben carson or even bernie sanders. there is something there about these figures. they have understood that when it comes to attracting voters it very much is about these personal stories, about what they are willing to say and in that way they really i think have formed a sense of attachment with their different constituencies and we'll have to see how this plays out in 2016. ben carson is fading in the polls at this point. sanders plateaued. but there is donald trump who probably understands that politics is marketing better
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than anybody we've seen is sort of sarah palin 2.0 in that way. we'll have to see how he fairs in continuing the way he's been able to brand himself among certain voters. >> carl, we talked about trump. we talked about carson. surprise winners here but not quite winners but ahead. jeb bush really going nowhere in his campaign and so many advantages coming in and the perception was with that name, with that ped gigree he was goi to have power but it never really materialized. how do you explain that, carl? >> one, he hasn't been very impressive in the debate. he's been out of his league and uncomfortable but donald trump has been speaking a very interesting kind of common american english and candidates are not used to speaking that way and we're not used to hearing the kind of language donald trump is using. it may be vulgar. it may be obscene. it may be bullying but i think people are experiencing a great
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relief sometimes particularly those to whom he appeals adhering what they regard as straight talk. jeb bush doesn't sound like straight talk. most of the traditional candidates sound as if they have been briefed, stuffed, well, donald trump just says what comes into his head. it goes out there and as p.j. says, yeah, it sounds like the bar but people would rather be at the bar because they are angry particularly at those 40% or so of the republican party that support trump. >> p.j. gets back to the question, who would you rather have a beer with? i just wonder, the conventional wisdom is that -- >> tell you. >> when the primaries come around, you know, normality will return when voters actually go into the booth or participate in the caucuses -- >> you know, i was thinking -- >> is that true? >> i'm not sure. i'm just not sure it is. one thing you have to remember
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as a democracy, government by the people and 50% of people are below average in intelligence math m m math mat tickle fact. the person i don't want to have a beer with is the american voter at the moment. [ laughter ] >> between the support for trump and the support for bernie sanders, i honestly -- sober up people, go home. >> thanks for helping us digest in year. we hope you ring in the new year with a great new years eve. thanks very much. from that year in politics to the year in crime, there was the subway pitchman jailed for possession of child porn and having sex with minors to the daring prison escape and massive manhunt featuring a seamest and a baltimore suspect that died in custody and spawned riots in baltimore. randi kaye has the year's top
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crime and punishment stories. >> hi, i'm jared the subway guy. >> the pitch man turned prisoner. jared fogle sentenced to more than 15 years after pleading guilty to charges of child pornography and crossing state lines to pay for sex with minors. fogle caught on tape sharing sick fantasies with a florida woman who secretly recorded him decemb describing how he lures children in. >> share stories and then, you know, we get a little closer and a little closer and a little closer and before you know it, you know, it's just starts to happen. >> he admits having a thing for middle school girls, suggesting it's easiest to seduce children who are vulnerable. >> we're leaving no stone unturned. >> a prison break and a prison taylor part of a master escape plan. convicted killers richard matt
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and david sweat break out of the clinton correctional facility. they cut holes in their cells, snake their way through tunnels and emerge from this manhole but joyce mitchell, their get away driver doesn't show up. leaving matt and sweat on the run. a massive manhunt begins. mitchell later tells nbc how it was supposed to go down. >> i was supposed to bring clothes for them. i was supposed to bring a tent. i was supposed to bring a shotgun. >> weeks go by matt is killed by police, sweat is shot by a state trooper just feet from the canadian border. sweat now back behind bars. turns out mitchell not only helped them in the escape but also romantically involved with one if not both of the fugitives. mitchell admits sending sweat naked photos of herself before the pricen break and having oral
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sex with matt in the prison shop and admits using hamburger meat to smuggle hacksaw blades inside to the escapees. >> are you pleading guilty because you are, in fact, guilty? >> mitchell is sentenced to seven years. baby doe, ununidentified chubby cheek toddler washes up on the shores of the boston harbor wrap in a plastic garbage bag with a zebra blanket wearing polka dot leggings. the center for missing children generates this computer image of what she may have looked like. it goes viral. three months later, baby doe is identified as bella bond, she lived with her mother and her mother's boyfriend. rachial bond and michael mccarthy are arrested for her murder after they are exposed by a family friend. the girl's mom allegedly came clean to the friend. >> she responded michael
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mccarthy killed her and i'm accessory after the fact because i helped him get rid of her body. >> mccarthy allegedly believed bella was possessioned by demons and beat her until she died keeping the body in the family's refrigerator until dumping it in the harbor. he's charged with first-degree murder. the girl's mother is charged with accessory after the fact. both plead guilty and are awaiting trail. an arrest and rough ride. freddie gray suffers a severe and critical neck injury dying a week later. baltimore erupts. >> black lives matter! >> the national guard is called in. a curfew is put in place. baltimore prosecutor maryland mosby announces charges against six police officers. not buckling gray and not calling medics. >> mr. gray's death is a homicide and we have probable cause to file criminal charges.
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>> officer william porter is on trial first but a jury of seven blacks and five whites fail to reach a unanimous decision on any of the charges against him. a new trial is expected next year. randi kaye, cnn, new york. just ahead, we've been counting down your favorite "ridiculist"s of the year, your choice for number one when we come back. you both have a
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as 2015 draws to a close, we've been counting down your favorite "ridiculist" of the year. here is your choice from number one from the beginning of the year when anderson took aim there was a certain gay agenda. have a look. >> time for "the ridiculist", tonight i would like to address something to the gay agenda. i've never been to the secret meeting where the gays plot their agenda but i imagine the catering is amazing but thanks to larry tomzack, my eyes are opened. not a trickle, a stsunami. the indock nation coming from
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those advocating a gay lifestyle in the country, classroom and culture are increasing. we need to take action and take note to guard those we love. we're being bombarded. you can tell larry is serious because the bs are capitalized. i don't know what a gay lifestyle is like i don't know what a straight lifestyle is. seems like all the gay people i know and straight people i know live all kinds of different lives. i know gay police officers, doctors, marines, ministers, a couple gay tv news anchors, believe it or not and they want to live their lives with the same rights and responsibilities as everyone else. larry says indecent behavior is conveyed to unsuspecting children and points to "dancing with the stars" and "survivor" have had gay contestants and ellen celebrates her marriage, he put marriage in quotes. >> in the article the pastor criticizes a lot of tv shows for promoting gay agendas. he says "glee" has five
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characters, anderson cooper boasts about homosexuality. if you ask me, gary is watching a lot of gay tv. >> i'm in there, me and my constant boasting. he has a solution. he recommends parents turn off the tv and turn on the dvd player so their kids can watch a whole some shows like "i love lucy" and "leave it to beaver." he's right. i watched "i love lucy" growing up. those are the good old days where gay people could be arrested for going to a pay and fired from their jobs, which they still can. good times. larry may like the new tlc show, "all about men" men attracted to men but decide to marry women anyway. it's called "my husband is not gay". >> every time i got to the core of who i am, i knew that i
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wanted to be married to a woman and i knew that i wanted children and i wanted to be a father and i wanted to be called daddy when i come home. >> for the record, there are plenty of gay people having kids these days and if you're a gay guy that wants to be called daddy, you don't necessarily have to get married to a woman. some think gay people can and should change. i feel for anybody that's not happy with who they are. the guys on this show insists they have rig marriages and do regular guy things like go shopping together. >> do you see that guy over there? >> uh-huh. >> what do you think? >> he's a good looking guy for sure. >> he's okay. >> i like guys that are more athletic. >> is he your type? >> i like the swimmer's build. >> what's the swimmer's build? >> what kind of guy are you into? >> usually taller like brian reynolds. >> with you there. >> who isn't? >> just like a bunch of straight married guys going out shopping together.
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they also insist they can have attraction towards their wives, even though they are naturally inclined to be attracted to men. >> you can say i'm oriented towards donuts and if i was being true to myself i would eat donuts a lot more than i do but am i miserable, lonely, am i denying myself because i don't eat donuts as much as i'd like to, i'm not. >> yeah. not gay. whose the doughnut in that an analo analogy, by the way? i think he needs to throw something else in there, perhaps a bear claw. gay people are more visible today and while that makes larry so uncomfortable and spends a lot of time watching and thinking about gay people, i don't think turning back the clock or tv dial is the solution. when you're up late at night thinking what gay people are doing, i'm sure you can find a good rerun to watch somewhere on "the ridiculist." just ahead, more on one of
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