a fingerprint reader on a phone. victor blackwell, cnn, columbus, georgia. >> thank you, victor. if you miss the town hall, "guns in america." you can watch it tunnel at 9:00 eastern. thanks for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. thanks for joining us. we begin with breaking news. there is now information confessed to ambushing and shooting a philadelphia police officer last night. his name is edward archer. police say he told them he was acting in the name of isis. the fbi just now telling us he made two trips to the middle east to saudi arabia in 2011 and egypt in 2012. authorities say he fired 13 shots at officer jesse hartnet using a .9 block stolen from another city police officer. three shots hit officer hartnet who returned fire wounding the gunman and radioed for help.

>> shots fired! i'm shot! i'm bleeding heavily! >> all cars stand by, we have an officer shot 6-0 and spruce repeating in the 18th district assisting officer 6-0. we have an officer down. >> he is recovering from his wounds. police say the suspect has confessed to law enforcement sources telling cnn's pamela brown the fbi did not have a case against him leading up to the attempted murder. miguel marquez joins us from philadelphia with the latest on it. miguel, this new information from the fbi, do we know if this guy has ties to any actual terror groups? >> reporter: that is the huge question is that's exactly what they are digging into. certainly the trips in 2011 to saudi and in 2012 to cairo, they will look at very carefully. there is no indication that he was doing anything untoward there but the police commissioner saying at one point during the police, during the press conference today that this is an individual who said at

some point during the discussions with him that he felt that police work was contradictory to the teachings of the koran and saying after being silent a long time with their investigators he finally spoke up and said i pledge allegiance to the islamic state and i believe in al la and that's why i did what i did, his mother telling the philadelphia inquirer he was a practicing muslim for a long time it's not clear how much of a muslim he is and not clear if there are ties beyond his mind to international terror groups. >> we're seeing footage groups. this is absolutely spectacular the way this police officer and

hartnet, west philadelphia drive and flogged down by this individual and semiautomatic and his hand was all the way in the car and hitting the despite that. the officer was able to get out of the car and shoot him in the buttocks before he could get away. all while talking on the 911 dispatcher telling them to get other officers there, telling them his own situation that he was bleeding profusely unbelievable this officer was able to survive this, bring this person down and is tonight still recovering. anderson. >> that's all right there on that surveillance footage. there is questions about this attacker's mental state. what do we know? >> his mother spoke briefly to

the philadelphia inquirerlier today and she said he had mental problems, that he played football, he had an accident on his moped at one point and injured his head. they have been speaking to himself lately that he was mumbling a lot. they asked him to get medical help and it's not clear he had. he said that he felt he was being targeted by police. we do know he had one previous, at least one previous arrest and he was charged with fraud. he was due to be sentenced on it. it's not clear whether that had to do with anything that triggered him to do this. his mother clearly saying he suffer suffered. >> the would be killer opened fire with a stolen glock. the weapon taken from another philadelphia police officer's home and debra has more. >> it was a .9 capable of 17 rounds and that it was fired 11

times at that police officer by this man. now the police commissioner when he announced it had been stolen he said look, full disclosure, this did belong to another police officer taken from his home and reported stolen and the officers disciplined as protocol. the real big question police are asking tonight is where did he get this gun? how many hands did this gun pass through and also, was it given to him specifically in connection with the shooting? if so, that's a link it could suggest some conspiracy. so they are going back to see what they know about it but he could have gotten it on the glock market or by a drug dealer. he does have a long criminal past and as a matter of fact, in march of 2015, he served, he was supposed to serve nine to 23 months for a charge of carrying a gun and he was on probation. so, you know, the guy had a lot of run ins with the law, as well. >> you think about instances, and i'm trying to remember in recent memory of an officer's gun being used in a crime.

kate steinle in san francisco you think about, i believe that gun was recovered or taken from a federal officer. >> yeah, that's exactly right and the gunman in that parti particular case, an immigrant said he found it on a bench on this busy san francisco pier and picked it up and it went off accidently. it was stolen from this vehicle and when we did a search and the national crime information center says there are about 190,000 guns that are stolen every year, 9% of those lost or stolen are reported or registered to federal law enforcement. so the amount we're talking about in terms of stolen law enforcement guns is 5800 a year. >> deborah feyerick, thanks so much. >> the author of the new book "amazing states of jihad" and former fbi counterterrorism agent tim joins us. from what we know so far about this guy and just learned this information about the overseas

travel, how does he fit into the profile of other terrorists? >> well, you know, one thing that is kind of interesting is the reporting not known to law enforcement so typically, jihadi terroris terrorists. he wasn't known to law enforcement and that's similar to the san bernardino case and it gets. >> if mental issues played part in this motivation or this person's thinking, you believe still there must have been warning signs. >> absolutely, anderson. unless he live in a vacuum, unless he lived completely alone and had no colleagues and he didn't have a job or family or friends, somebody would have noticed changes in his behavior.

if he had mental problems, maybe the changes had been around for a long time but his behavior, i did it because after allah and these law enforcement officers against islam. he probably uttered this to other people and they were probably ignored or people that didn't care to pay attention to it that might have been family members or friends. there had to be people aware of muttering changed and dress and demeanor may have changed but things about him most likely changed based on what we seen, behavior, beards grown, clothing changed and become more religious. there is usually out ward signs evidenced and ignored. >> peter, you've been studying terrorists for your new book that i just read. how big right now. let's put this in context. a, how often do you see people who may have mental issue

linking that with radical islam and just overall what kind of numbers are we talking about of terrorists or would be terrorists here in the united states? >> well, 2015 saw more jihad dee terror case in the united states than any year since 9/11 and 900 investigations in 50 states. that's a significant number. most of those, of course, are lone wolves, not some huge conspiracy as we saw in paris. i wanted to pick up on what tim said. it's interesting. the fbi talks about leak cage when a perpetrator says something to someone and usually in deciding order of likelihood they tell peers or family and then sometimes an authority figure may pick up something, clergy or teacher and strangers who the least useful information but most likely to come forward. the people with the best information are peers and the fbi has found that they are the

least likely to come forward and they are the people with the best information. >> why is it that they are the least likely, because they are friends with this person or don't want to get involved or don't believe it? >> i mean, it's hard to ascertain but we have this huge see something, say something campaign which is really produces a lot of false positives because the people who were really know something are the people as tim said are the people in the immediate circle who usually, and this comes out at school shootings, anderson, the fbi determined the perpetrator often said something, you know, they are going to pay or some kind of information that was known to people in the circle and also true now in jihad terrorism cases and unfortunately, people are not coming forward often enough. >> tim, talk about the difficulties of tracking a person now that may be a lone wolf and assume this person is and very possible, you know, he might have been given this gun by somebody who wanted him to

commit an attack. we don't have that information. in terms of tracking these people. >> well, as you just heard from peter, the problem is that those closest to these individuals don't give up the information. the thing is that if you see something like behavior changing in an individual that you think is either a, radicalized or mentally unstable or both and you don't notify the authorities because people think and law enforcement, local law enforcement and alerting them. you are not convicting anyone. you're not enforcing internet investigation. what you're causing is to come on the radar and that might be enough. an individual like this, his mother said he was mentally unstable. you know what? maybe there were authorities that should have been notified locally this man was living in this neighborhood in stable or mentally unstable and that might have been enough to have them

look at them. there needs to be more by the people committing these acts for the fbi and agencies to co-anything to prevent the attacks. >> also, in these kind of tacti tactics. you know, not even try to get help for in the case of a teenager. >> the father of accused said he was radicalized, i was liber liberaliz liberalized. >> thank you, next, more on some other pieces of a deadly larger pattern, isis targeting the very people whose job it is to keep us safe. we've seen other instances, this one in new york, you're looking at right now, also breaking news, how they got shorty, drug lord, "el chapo" gave the slip

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the ambush of a police officer in philadelphia and precautions taken in new york are more than just breaking news tonight. part and parcel of a low level war by isis and isis sympathizers on street level symbols of authority, namely law enforcement. as randi kaye reports, the danger could be growing. >> reporter: it happened just yesterday, a man carrying a butcher's knife yelling god is great in arabic attempts to attack a police station in

paris. it's 11:30 in the morning one year to the minute since the attacks on charlie hebdo, magazine. this woman saw what happened but asked not to be identified. >> translator: they shouted get back, get back, get back, and when he didn't, they shot three ti times. >> later the isis flag found and a handwritten note claiming responsibility of the attack and wearing a fake suicide vest. back in 2014 another attack in broad daylight, four new york city police officers are rushed by a man swinging a hatchet two officers are struck, one in the head, the other in the arm. the other officers shot and kill the attacker. the suspect is identified as zale thompson. a picture of an armed jihad fighter and judging those who wondered astray. >> every indicator points to he

was acting alone self-radicalized. >> reporter: in the days before the attack, police say the suspect had viewed isis videos online including beheadings and propaganda and watch news stories about attacks in canada that happened just weeks before when two members of the canada armed forces are run down by a self-radicalized man in a car. the suspect had been on police radar after posting videos of violent attacks on facebook. police had classified him as radicalized. he leads police on a chase before his car rolls into a ditch. police shoot and kill him. in australia, a month earlier, police shoot and kill an 18-year-old terror suspect after he attempts to stab two police officers at a police station. one is slashed in his neck, stomach and head and the other in the arm. both survive. the attack comes just days after australia's prime minister had raised the country's threat

level to high meaning an attack is considered likely. >> there are people with the intent and the capability to mount attacks here in australia. >> reporter: the suspect in the australia attack had posted i'm ga makes of a masked man on his facebook page with what appeared to be the isis flag. the threat against police officers even more serious with the rerelease of an isis video last year, calling for followers in the west to rise up and kill intelligence officers, police officers, soldiers and civilians. their targets, the united states, france, australia and canada. all countries where police have already come under attack. randi kaye, cnn, new york. well, there is more breaking news tonight south of the border. blood thirsty and terror back in custody. "el chapo" back in custody tonight. recapture in a coastal city.

his capture reportedly involved members of the mexican navy and a number of intelligence agencies and american help in the search according to u.s. law enforce the official. several "el chapo" associates were killed in the raid. raphael has been monitoring the developments and joins us now. how did the raid and capture go down? do we know? >> yes, anderson. mexican officials say the raid happened at 4:30 in the morning l . it was a bloody raid. according to the mexican navy, five people died in the shootout and six arrested. one soldier was injured in the first pictures, he appears stunned. we have obtained video of the drug lord where you can see him half naked and being led into a mexican government place. remember, this is one of the world's most wanted. this is the man forbes magazine included in the list of the most powerful people in the world's

mating his fortune at $1 billion. anderson, "el chapo's" people had a lot of firepower at the site of the raid. armored cars, assault rifles and listen to this, also, a rocket launcher. >> and i understand we talked about the u.s. assisting in the search. do we know what level? >> yeah, there's been a lot of cooperation between mexico and the united states in recent years according to a law enforcement official in this case the americans provided assistance in the search but the raid itself and "el chapo's" capture was by mexican special forces. >> given the fact this guy escaped from, you know, a mexican prison, could the department of justice extradite him? would mexico send him to the united states? >> yeah, that's a very good point. not only did the u.s. justice department but also eight american states, eight with drug trafficking cases against joaquin guzman and arizona and

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the campaign trail. polling shows donald trump maintaining a big lead in new hampshire at 33%. that's up six points. marco rubio is second at 15% and ted cruz in third place with 12. everyone else single digits. in iowa ted cruz is leading at 27%. trump, though, is at 23%. rubio at 15 again everyone else single digits. cruz is hitting the trail hard in iowa and made six stops just today. the caucuses are less than three weeks away. trump finished speaking at a rally that obviously holds the primary on the 27th. an open primary registered voters can cross party lines. let's go to cnn political commentator and op ed columnist that made the case and cnn political commentator paul and

jeffrey lord who served as political director as president regan. so ross, this fox news poll showing donald trump still trailing ted cruz in iowa but a few points, you wrote for trump to lose, he doesn't actually have to collapse, he has to fail to expand his support. do you not think he can expand his support? >> well, i think it's a challenge. i think what you see in the polls of states where voters are paying the most attention and where the campaigns are actually focussing their efforts is that trump's numbers have been pretty stable between 25 and 35% basically since he surged into the lead last summer and this is true in iowa where he's a little lower. it's true in new hampshire where it's higher and true in south carolina. and trump does have a large conten gent of republican voters and when you break down second choices, you have a lot of

people whose second choice is cruz and trump. it's very easy to see a kind of consolidation happen where trump ends upholding on to a lot of the voters he has right now but cruz surges past him as he already has in iowa by consolidating evangelicals and if and when figures like jeb and john kay and i csich and others, rubio and a three-man race but trump is again, stuck at 25 to 30%. >> jeff, as a trump supporter, what do you make of ross' arg argume argument. >> if this, then, that. if i call a call from julia roberts, could i date miss america maybe on a good day. who knows. i don't think that's reflective of what i going on out there. a reminder here, in 1976 ronald reagan lost not only the iowa caucus but he lost new hampshire. he lost the first six caucus and

primaries and then suddenly caught fire in north carolina and the thing went down to the convention where he lost by 117 votes. and then of course four years later he lost the iowa caucuses to george h.w. bush. i think that it's a mistake to pin everything on one or two or three or four even more than that primaries. i think this is going to be a bit of a drawn out battle here and i think donald trump has got the reserves. i think he can deal with this. >> paul, do you see this as a drawn out battle, as well? >> i do. mr. trump has -- i think a lot of advantages. the scale the way the cameras are attracted to him. one great event he doesn't control is a crowded field. these other candidates, ross said and is right. if the other establishment candidates, many of them, most of them had sense would quit and let that person take on mr. trump but the problem is they don't have sense. they have more ambition than sense. [ laughter ] >> seriously. >> paul. >> i could beat him but i need

to get christie out of the way. it's not going to happen. it will be a crowded establishment lane and christian evangelical lane and i think he's probably trump's greatest threat is ted cruz, not the establishment. as long as it's a multi candidate field, that 35% or 40% ceiling trump has is plenty enough to win. >> that multi candidate field will, i mean, it will dwindle down quickly after south carolina and new hampshire and south carolina, don't you think? >> exactly. jeff, one, i agree with both jeffrey and paul this is going to be a long drawn out battle and totally possible again trump will hold support and be a major factor in the race and he could even push it towards 1976 style convention showdown but he's not going to be the one probably in the lead going into that convention showdown and look, because it's such a long drawn out battle, the fact that the establishment lane is splintered now will be true in new hampshire and maybe south carolina and it's possible that, you know, you could imagine

christie and rubio both doing well in new hampshire and stay in but you're not going to have four or five figures in the field. their fundraising will dry up and encouraged to depart and will depart in spite of their perhaps foolish ambitions. >> jeffrey -- >> no -- >> go ahead, jeff. >> in 1980, there were several -- there was more than george h.w. bush in the race as establishment candidates. howard baker, dole, john conley and when they -- the others departed the field and finally just down to bush, regan still won and won fairly well. >> why are we -- why do we think trump support is analogous to trump's support. trump's consit web see is fascinating. fascinating figure combining kind of disaffected democrats with certain -- >> regan democrats we used to call them, ross. >> we used to call them. that was 35 or 40 years ago, jeff. trump is running -- he's not

running on a conservative platform particularly except on immigration. he's not a figure like regan whose been a darling of the conservative movement and not a governor, doesn't have an infrastructure or get out the vote operation. again, there is just no reason to expect that he's going to get to 45 or 50% of the vote in time to head off well funded challengers. >> paul, what -- obviously, who concerns you most on the republican side? is it marco rubio for general election against hillary clinton? >> first, look, you were -- you covered the last presidential election and i did not say this then. the republican field has a lot of talent from the beginning and i mean it. there is a lot of talent there. i do -- number one, there is a ton of talent there. number two, my party doesn't win three in a row. republicans don't either, of then -- often. that took the full time support of the due caucus campaign.

the greatest asset. let me flip around. my republican strategist friends worry the most about trump and cruz. those two, they believe, could cause a landslide for hillary. democrats don't get landslides in this country. i wish we did but don't. it will be a 50/50 race being nominee, mr. trump. >> paul, jeffrey, ross, thanks very much. >> thanks, anderson. >> there is more breaking news from the trump event that wrapped up. we learned a woman was removed from the rally. you can see she's wearing a t-shirt reading sallum, i come in peace. >> this is something that follows donald trump most everywhere he goes, protesters. this was an unusual situation here in south carolina tonight. a 56-year-old flight attendant who is a muslim who lives in charlotte, we spoke to her before the rally, she stood up

during the rally when donald trump was talking about syrian refugees. she was not saying anything. it was a moment of relative silence and then suddenly some people in the crowd around her sort of turned on her and some police came forward as you can probably see in this video and escorted her out and my colleague jeremy diamond spoke to her afterward and she said she was very surprised by this. she said she came to this rally with the idea of allowing trump supporters to see what a muslim looks like. of course, there is some inflammatoinflam t inflamed tore -- inflammatory rhetoric in the last several weeks. she said she came to the rally not far from charlotte just to see it and mainly so trump supporters could see her. but as you can see there, she made it about half way through the rally and escorted out. it was just one of several disruptions at this rally tonight. not as many as last night in vermont but anderson, an unusual

moment, somewhat of an uncomfortable moment for someone sitting around her and other people in this crowd turned pretty ugly on her and started shouting some things. so just one slice of an otherwise pretty boy tris donald trump rally. >> thanks for the update. just ahead, did president obama change any minds at our town hall meeting guns in america? did he arrest skeptics fears he wants to take away weapons? we'll hear from group owners that watched the town hall with gary tuchman at a shooting range. powerball jackpot that shattered records. what are your actual odds of winning $800 million and what would you actually net? richard quest is crunching the numbers for us tonight. what if one piece of kale

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this time last night we were george mason university about midway through our live town hall guns in america. president obama took questions from me and members of the audience including nra members, gun rights advocates. the back and forth got tense at times. a chance for president obama to talk face-to-face with critics and supporters. gary tuchman was watching from a florida gun range with a grown up of gun enthusiasts and tonight reports. >> reporter: at the shooting sports range in florida, they shoot before the sun goes down. [ gunshots ]. >> reporter: and after it sets, we joined people who fire guns here in front of the tv in the range store to see what they will think about what president obama says during the cnn town hall meeting.

>> how many of you think it's a good idea that barack obama took executive action? pretty silent here. [ laughter ] >> reporter: not happy about it. the president will have to do some convincing. >> what can you say to somebody tonight to convince them that you don't want to take away everybody's guns, that you're not coming for their guns? >> first of all, anderson, it's useful to keep in mind i've been now president for over seven years and -- >> don't remind us. >> the conversation has to be based on facts and truth. >> that would be great. >> reporter: as early as the one commercial break, it was clear the president wasn't going to convince this group of much. >> i think he is just lying to the nation to allow for his agenda. >> what do you think his agenda is? >> to keep on infringing on the second amendment rights. >> what president obama is saying is that by taking executive actions that he will make this country safer. won't be able to eliminate all tragic shootings but maybe some,

do you not believe that? >> i don't believe by taking executive action and being a bully over the existing legislative process is going to provide any resolution like he seeks. >> reporter: after the commercial break. >> this is not a recipe for solving every problem. >> again, it's not a recipe for solving any problem. >> reporter: this group's feelings toward the president only stiffened. they did not like it when mr. obama angrily said it's fair to call it a conspiracy, the relick douse idea he's creating a plot to take everyone's guns away. >> maybe when i propose to make sure that, you know, unsafe drugs are taken off the market that secretly i'm trying to control the entire drug industry. or take people's drugs away. >> i'm not trying to take your guns and you can keep your doctor if you want it and you can keep your health care plan. >> reporter: when the town hall was over, i asked -- >> do you have a better idea than the president? >> yeah, enforce the laws that

exist, the current laws that exist. >> criminal laws. >> yeah, the criminal laws. at the end of the day, the crimes are being committed by the criminals. >> jeff is the owner of the gun range. >> reporter: when the president says fewer guns would mean fewer violent crimes, you think that is not accurate? >> how could you get fewer guns without confiscation. >> you don't trust the president. >> no, i don't. >> reporter: at this gathering, president obama changed no minds. gary tuchman, cnn, florida. president obama could not have said it plainer last night. he flat out denied he wants to confiscate any guns but as you saw in gary's report, many do not believe him. we asked drew griffin to drill down on the conspiracy theories that fuel these suspicions. that's what president obama was calling them. where did they come from and what did they encompass? is his report. >> reporter: a two-month u.s.

military exercise across half a dozen states only added fuel to the fire of conspiracy theories swirling around president obama. >> we did a military exercise in texas and a whole bunch of folks were sure that this was the start of marshall law. >> reporter: it was in march months before the exercises would even begin that a conservative radio talk show host called it a preparation for civil war. soon the conspiracy theory spread and got weirder if that's even possible when actor chuck norris posted on the world net daily website, the u.s. government says it's just a training exercise but i'm not sure the term just he writes has any reference to reality when the government uses it. even texas governor greg abbott gave the theory credence. i ordered the texas safeguard to safeguard texas constitutional rights, private property and civil lib r ertieliberties.

one local resident wondered if the army wasn't coming for his land. >> it is preparation for marshall law. >> it's not a preparation for marshall law, sir. >> that's what you say. >> reporter: nothing happened. the army trained and went away. the conspiracy theories never do. among the right wing conspiracy theories president obama wants to take away land, take away rights and especially take away guns and if you think it's just a bunch of internet rumors, mark kelly husband of wounded gabby giffords and gun control advocate told president obama he actually heard it in the u.s. senate. >> when we testified in front of the senate judiciary committee, we heard not only from the gun lobby, but from united states senators that expanding background checks will, not may, will lead to a registry, which will lead to confiscation, which will lead to a terranical

government. >> we checked it out and it's true. here he is commenting on fears obama was coming to take away guns. >> no wonder many americans fear the president might take executive action and congress may enact legislation. >> reporter: during the obama administration there are runs an ammunition and rumors of coming after people that stockpile ammunition and runs on ar-15s and other assault weapons for fear assault rifles would be banned and the general fear of guns being taken away has led to a general run on guns in stores over the last seven years. none of it has happened but the conspiracy theories continue and those who benefit from them allow them to swirl. >> there is an assault on the second amendment.

obama is going to do an executive order and knock the hell out of it. >> reporter: true or not, bizarre or not, republicans won' gun theory go. he's all too happy to convince you, obama really does want to take your guns. >> how is it anything but fear? >> it is actually quite accurate. >> and drew joins us now. after jade helm, i mean, obviously, the army did not enact marshall law and did the governor greg abbott in texas or chuck norris ever admit they were wrong? >> no, check norris walked back some of his comments. the governor of texas has gone on to move to guns now. he's worried about president obama taking guns, but these conspiracy theories just get more and more conas a ruvoluted when proven false. in the commercial break we'll probably be wrapped up in the

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time now for "the ridiculist" and don't i want to appeal for return to civility in the presidential campaign, especially with the issue of choice. the candidate's choice in foot ware. i think you may know what i'm talking about. this started when a new york times political reporter posted this on his twitter account. marco rubio is rocking black woods today in new hampshire, black, shiny, maybe a side

zipper. have a very modest, i don't know, maybe two of three-inch heel and sort of look like he bought them at prince's garage sale butless we forget the p in gop stands for party and in those shoes rubio looks like he's the only presidential candidate ready to party like it's 1999. that's a compliment. i'm defending him, i'm not lashing out. this is lashing out. ted cruz' communication director said a vote for marco rubio is a vote for men's high heel booties. new hampshire, you got to hit the ground running, not really running in heels. let's say the runup to the primary is like a dance. he's trying to be the lord of the dance and his fellow candidates just won't let it go. carly fiorina tweeted this, quote, yeah, marco rubio but can you rock these? she's one upping him because her high heels are a little higher,

a whit psper of more height. lay off him. what if you can buy a version of the american girl doll store? is that true? can you do that? i've never been. is that any reason for land paul to go and make a video. >> hey, guys, i'll be on "the view" in a few minutes. i'm trying to choose shoes. rubio has those cute new boots and i don't want to be out done. >> we can count on one person to bring it back to reality, donald trump. he was asked about rubio's boots by a radio host. >> you won't see me wearing them. i don't know what to think of those boots. >> do you think it's a height thing? >> i don't know. they are big heels, they are big heels. i mean, those heels were really up there, but, you know, it's almost like it doesn't matter too much. probably he would have been better off not going that route, would you say? he's taken a lot of -- i notice he's taken a lot of hits. i just hope it works out fine for him. >> rubio himself addressed this important issue at a town hall

yesterday and pointed out there are much more important issues to discuss, but will he again wear those shoes? >> boy, are we getting a lot of coverage about a pair of boots. this is craziness. people have lost their minds. i've gotten a chuckle out of it. who knows, they may make a come back. stay tuned. >> it's an election year, someone is always on your heels on "the ridiculist." "guns in america" starts now. gun is a