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own your home. take control of your retirement today! just past 9:00 eastern time coming up on crunch time for bernie sanders and hillary clinton and second guessing time for vice president joe biden who decided not to run this year. any regrets? he sat down with gloria borger for an exclusive interview. the ones who are running and running now very close in new polling. a pair of surveys showing tight races in iowa as well as new hampshire and big differences in where each candidate gets the strongest support. breaking it down, chief national correspondent john king, john? >> anderson, in botherry states
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iowa and new hampshire, the race is as close as it can get. polling out from the nbc wall street journal, hillary clinton at 48%, bernie sanders at 45% and martin o'malley at 5%. let's break the race down. it's close if you ask democrats, they favor clinton 54-39 but independents, bernie sanders 62-29. not that much of a difference. liberal split evenly and moderate evenly but here is something interesting in iowa. men favor sanders by quite a big margin. 56-39 and women, hillary clinton with a 20-point lead. remember this number when we move on to new hampshire. this is the key for bernie sanders like donald trump, he needs new voters to turn out. if you've never voted in a iowa caucus before but a likely democratic voter, 51% for sanders. if you've done this before and you're a democrat, 51% for clinton. 42% for sanders. sanders needs to turn out voters on caucus night. let's move onto the race in new
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hampshire. sanders with an edge 50 to 46% a tie within the margin of error close race there. let's break it down. just like in iowa, hillary clinton wins among those who say i'm a democrat. bernie sanders wins by a sizable number by those who say i'm an independe independent. sanders has a slight edge, good edge in new hampshire and sanders with a slight edge among those who say they are moderate. you'll have more of a split in sanders' favor in the state of new hampshire and again, significant sanders wins just like he did in iowa significantly among men but the gender gap not as much in clinton's favor among women in new hampshire. that's why this race is so close and why sanders has the slightest of edge. hillary clinton not as far ahead as she would like to be. if you're under 45 and a likely democratic voter in new hampshire, 66% for sanders, 33% for hillary clinton, but flip it over. if you're 45 or older, hillary clinton has a 51% to 42% edge. anderson, it comes down to who
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turns out especially for bernie sanders in iowa and new hampshire. younger voters, new voters, as we countdown at the moment, boom, rock them, sock them. very close race for the democrats in both states. >> yeah, amazing numbers given the numbers and the way the race is unfolding, you have to worry about what the rival is thinking. joe biden kept his counsel tonight his thoughts on that and more. cnn chief political analyst glor gloria boringer got the interview starting with an issue deeply important to him. >> last week the president was talking about gun control. he wrote a piece in which he introduced a litmus test for his political support of democratic candidates saying you're with us all the way on gun reform or i'm not going to support you. >> i don't think he said that. what he said was unless you have a reasonable position on guns.
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>> well, doesn't that mean you're with us -- >> no, no, it doesn't. >> let me ask you this, then. bernie sanders has a history on this. he has in the past voted to protect gun manufacturers from liability. is this a shot across the bow at bernie sanders? >> bernie sanders said he thought the president's approach is a correct approach. bernie sanders said this he thinks there should be liability now so -- >> he said he's re -- he might reconsider his position. >> okay. but he -- look, one of the purposes the president has and i have, we want to affect the attitude of the nominees. we've worked too hard the last seven years to take the party to a place we think it should be and so what little influence i may have and he may have on who the nominee is and what the nominee says, we're not going to be -- >> so bernie sanders has to change position on gun manufacturers in order to have
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your support and you out there campaigning for him, should he be the nominee -- >> no, bernie sanders has to do is say the second amendment says which he has of late, the second amendment says you can limit who can own a gun, people who are criminals shouldn't have guns. people who are schizophrenic and mental illnesses shouldn't have guns and he said that. >> he's okay with you? >> yes, he's okay. look, bernie is doing a heck of a job. i think we have three great candidates out there. i really mean this. they are actually debating issues. >> donald trump right now is the republican front runner, no doubt about it. let me ask you, is he qualified to be president of the united states and a leader on the world stage. >> anyone in the american world that wants to be president -- looks like i'm avoiding you question and that's not my style. >> you are. you are. >> i think he's an incrediblykc
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devif sis figure. nobody does well when the leader of the country appeals to people's fears as opposed to their hopes. that's what worries me about donald trump. if donald trump gets a nomination and wins the election if he's as smart as i think, he's going to have regretted saying the things he said and done. the whole idea as we were talking before about pulling the country together for god sake, pull the politics together down here, how is donald trump do that? how does donald trump on the tan gent he's on now separating people based on ethnicity and origin, based on -- i mean, it's just dee vif sieve and not healthy. >> putin has called trump an out standing and talented personality and trump has said about putin at least he's a leader. you deal an awful lot with
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foreign leaders. how would you see trump on the world stage? >> i would hope he would have an extremely qualified staff with him. [ laughter ] >> i would hope he'd have people from the last administration and other republican administrations who were substantively grounded. he has no background in foreign policy. it's one thing to have an assessment of putin's personality and putin of him but tell me what he knows about strategic doctrine and what he knows about the nuclear equation with the united states and tell me what he knows about china soviet -- russian relations. i mean, i don't know. maybe he's keeping it all a secret but he hadn't spoken to any of the substances so far. none of the substance. so i think he would be most world leaders would hope that he
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had a couple crash graduate courses before he started to try to exercise the role of president. >> as we all know, you were thinking long and hard yourself about running for the presidency and you decided it was a no-go. and you've said you regret it every day. >> yeah. >> tell me why. >> in response to a question i did say that. i made the absolute right decision for a family -- >> do you -- >> what i regret is and i'm still going to be able to do it is i care deeply about these issues. i've spent my whole adult life and i was 29 years old working on foreign policy and domestic policy and cared deeply about it. to the extent i regret not having a louder voice but i'm the vice president of the united states for another year in office and we have an opportunity to get a lot more done. we've done a great deal not with standing the fiction on the other side.
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we've done a great deal. we've taken this country from yeah course to recovery and on the verge of resurgence and better positioned than any nation in the world economically and politically. there so much we can do and the opportunities we have in life sciences and the opportunities we have in the breakthroughs that will occur in the next four to six years are astounding. >> let me ask you about the race. >> yeah. >> that you're not in. >> yeah. >> and now we see that bernie sanders and hillary clinton are actually running neck and neck in iowa and in new hampshire. why do you think hillary clinton is struggling? >> well, first of all, i have been of the view and i don't know that you and i talked about it. i don't want to say that for certain but we may have. i thought for the last six months they were neck and neck in both places. i never bought the idea that they were somehow that remember when he was up by 15 points in new hampshire and he was down by
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15 points? that's not the way this process works as you and i both know. i'm much older than you but you covered a lot of this and so i'm not surprised that it is viewed as neck and neck but i'm also will be surprised if the pundits turn out to be right. they hardly are in iowa and new hampshire. >> why is she struggling? you say we consider she was an overwhelming favorite and -- >> well, i think that's part of the reason. >> he's a democratic socialest. >> yeah, but, you know, if bernie sanders never said he was a democratic socialist, based on what he's saying people wouldn't be calling him a democratic socialist. that's how he characterizes himself and european terms, democratic socialist parties in europe but -- >> but why is she having trouble? >> well, i think that bernie is speaking to a yearning that is
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deep and real and he has credibility on it and that is the absolute enormous consultation of wealth in a small group of people with a middle class now being able to be shown being left out. there used to be a basic bargain. if you contributed to the profitability of enterprise, you got to share the profit. that's been broken. productivity is up. wages are stagnant. >> talking about that -- >> but it's relatively new for hillary to talk about that. hillary's focus has been other things up to now and that's been bernie's no one questions bernie's authenticity on those issues. >> they question her? >> well, i think they question everybody's who hasn't been talking about it all along but i think she's come forward with really thoughtful approaches to deal with the issue, but i just think and look -- you know, everybody, you know, it's the
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old thing, no one -- everybody wants to be the favorite. no one wants to be the prohibited favorite. it's an awful high bar to meet the absolute prohibit of favorite. i don't think she ever thought she was the prohibited favorite. i think it's -- everything is sort of coming down to earth, just settling in but it's not over. >> so, if hillary clinton should lose iowa and new hampshire, is there any way that you would possibly take another look at this race? >> no, look, i -- >> the door is shut. >> first of all, even if hillary loses both, i haven't thought this through, it's a long way to go in the nomination. and, you know, so it's one thing theoretically to win both of those. go into south carolina, it's going to be rough sledding down there for bernie and another guy who is in it, o'malley is a qualified guy. he's a serious governor.
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>> so you're closing the door. >> no, i don't think there is any door to open. >> more of gloria's exclusive interview with the vice president after the break and how he's been doing in the months since losing his son beau to cancer. later an american woman murdered in italy and the shod doe of the amanda knox case couldn't be louder and how the italian government says it's going to be different this time. . introducing real-time delivery notifications. learn more at myusps.com what makesheart healthysalad the becalifornia walnuts.r? the best simple veggie dish ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple dinner ever? heart healthy california walnuts. great tasting, heart healthy california walnuts.
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in the last segment, visit president biden turned a sharp eye to the 2016 race and in part two, the political becomes person as he talks about he and his family have been doing since the pasting of his son beau to cancer. >> i want to ask you you're doing. >> we're doing well. look, anybody whose been through this kind of thing and millions of people have know the -- and i know from losing my wife and daughter years ago that you got to get through the season. thanksgiving was hard. for the same, for 40 years we all were together, went the same place in fan tuck et and did the same thing. we were a traditional family. christmas where everybody moves into my house for the last 20 years four days ahead of christmas. they move in. leave their house and move in. you know, the idea of an empty
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chair, you know, was something no one looked forward to but everybody, you know, they are tough and we're focussing on the inspiration of beau, rather than the loss of beau. it -- we're as a family, we're sticking together. we're getting through it, and, you know -- >> how are you? >> i'm good. look, i miss him every day f for god sake. he was my soul. hunter is my heart. he was my soul and my daughter is my comfort. it's interesting, you know, you have more than one child. they all -- you love them all equally but they all have a slightly different relationship and beau was, beau was my soul. beau is my conscience. beau was my -- beau is like -- he was like the little boy who when he was 6 years old he was 30 years old. you know? i mean, hunt is my heart with his passion and my daughter --
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but, so, i think about him all the time but i try to focus on what we have and by the way, his -- my two grandchildren, his two children are beautiful and smart and you would expect a grand pop to say that but, you know, i see them all the time and so everybody is -- everybody's life is incredible. halle is like my daughter. we're just focussing on, you know, but beau's -- anyway. we're -- i'm talking too much about beau, i apologize. >> no, that's all right. >> thank god, you know, and, you know, you said you-all mourn with me. the truth of the matter is, a lot of you did. i knew it was sincere and it mattered. it really matters. >> let me ask you about your next big thing. >> yeah. >> which is the moon shot for cancer as you call it. what did you learn as the parent of a cancer patient about how
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realistic and achievable this moon shot really is. >> i learned two things. first of all, when you have a son or daughter, husband, wife, somebody you adore, you become as educated as you can as quickly as you can when you know it's a serious form, et cetera. so i learned a lot about if -- for lack of a better phrase, the mechanics of cancer and the d l delivery system and there is so many changes that are just on the cusp but then as i got into it more deeply after beau passed, i realized a lot of this is siloed. i met with over 200 oncologists and cancer research centers and people involved and what everyone acknowledges privately and what i hope i can do, they think i may be able to bring them all together -- >> what do you want to do? >> what i want to do is break
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down the silos, have a meeting to access to information all the researchers have one another's research, as well, being able to have a conduit to get out to places not just the great cancer hospitals in the centers of study, to get oncologiests out in the field, the information they don't have access to. >> let me ask you as we head into the state of the union. is there a moment you're going to remember with the president? >> well, yeah, there is one. he may be embarrassed. my -- we were having lunch and it was pretty clear beau was having trouble with his speech and he still had three months to go, four months to go as attorney general and my son, beau biden was the most honorable, straight guy and i knew if my son thought he was losing his cognitive capability, he wouldn't stay on as attorney
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general. he would resign. thank god he took all these tests and there was no cognitive impact but his speech, it was affecting his speech and so i was having lunch with the president and he was the only guy in my family i confided all along in everything that was going on with beau because i felt a responsibility to do that so that he knew where i was and my thinking, and i said, you know, my concern is, i said if beau resigns, he has no -- there's no -- nothing to fall back on. his salary. i said i worked it out but jill and i will sell the house. he got up and said don't sell the house. promise me you won't sell the house. he's going to be mad at me for saying this. he said i'll give you the money. whatever you need, i'll give you the money. don't, joe, don't, promise me. i said i don't think we'll have to anyway. he said promise me. and i'll never forget the eulogy
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he delivered for beau. when beau had his stroke, when he had a stroke and they thought it turned out the beginning of the blast toma and and joe, is he okay? love of his family, my family, his two children and my granddaughters are best friends. his number two daughter, my number three granddaughter, they vacation together and play together and sleep at each other's homes all the time. it's personal. it's family. >> do you have any idea what you're going to be doing your first day out of public office? january 21st, 2017. >> i know i will be -- the process of trying to work that out right now, look, here is the thing. you know me a long time.
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since i've been 27 years old, every morning i get up, i focused on an issue. i focused on a public policy. this will be the first time and then i decided wait, i don't have to stop focussing on that. the question is what for to continue that focus. my dad said no man or woman should retire unless they know exactly what they are going to do the next morning they get up. i'm working on that right now. >> that's a good piece of advice there. quite a conversation, still plenty to talk about. next, my conversation with gloria and david axle rod about what president obama said and his remarks about bernie sanders and hillary clinton that raised a lot of eyebrows. hey! this is lloyd. to prove to you that the better choice for him is aleve. he's agreed to give it up. ok, but i have 30 acres to cover by sundown. we'll be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol. yeah, i was ok, but after lunch my knee started hurting again so... more pills. yep...
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vice president biden certainly made news in his conversation with our gloria borger who joins us with cnn political commentator, david axle rod and advisor to president obama. gloria, your interview with the president was interesting given the emphasis the white house is putting on the action he didn't go after sanders when the
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subject came up. >> he really didn't. i mean, i asked him specifically whether bernie sanders needed to change his position on limiting the liability of gun manufacturers and he said no, no, no. he said what bernie sanders has to do is say the second amendment says that you can keep guns out of the hands of criminals and as you know, the president has kind of established a litmus test on this which seems to be a little more stringent than what the vice president was saying. >> and david, the vice president was praising bernie sanders authenticity but punted a bit when it came to talking about hillary clinton. how big of a challenge does authenticity continue to be for her? >> well, i think authenticity is leading indicator for presidential candidates and this has been something that challenged her in the past and so she's going to have to continue to work at this. i just want to make a point on the gun issue. i don't think the white house meant when the president issued
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his statement to jackpot bernie sanders. the clinton campaign i think probably wisely jumped on it and i think the white house is now trying to course correct so as not to look like they are putting their thumb on the scale and so i think that was part of what biden was doing. now whether there is ouch left over from the whole presidential they did during the fall, i would say that's probably true as well but really here i think they didn't mean to put sanders in the position of being on the wrong side of them. >> but you know, on the economy. >> go ahead, gloria. >> on the economic issues, what was interesting to me about biden was he sort of came out and said, bernie sanders has credibility on this issue because he was out there early on and that hillary clinton is a little bit newer to these issues and i'm sure that something the clinton campaign isn't really going to want to hear very much. >> david, you look at the latest numbers, bernie sanders, hillary
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clinton really neck and neck in both iowa and new hampshire. how likely do you think it is hillary clinton's campaign could end up following the exact path of her husband took losing iowa and new hampshire before going on to get the nomination? >> i don't know if i would say it was likely but it's certainly very possible. the fact is that bernie sanders has been trailing in iowa for sometime now. she's had a small but significant -- but discernible lead in the state. it seems to be tightening up. new hampshire has been a crab shoot for hillary because of bernie's nearness. if she loses both, she would win the nomination. i think the nomination is fairly well secured. i think this would lengthen the race if she were to lose the first two races. >> gloria, when you go back to the fall when the vice president announced he wouldn't run, i mean, he seems less than
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enthusiastic about praising clinton. do you see that changing at all? do you think he would actually end up going to the campaign trail stumping for her if she gets the nomination? >> of course i think he would. he would support the democratic nominee and made it clear to me he wants to go out and continue to be a factor in politics. look, obviously, when he was considering the race, there seemed to be no love lost because he was going to challenge hillary clinton potentially and i think if you read between the lines in this interview, bernie sanders populism really appeals to joe biden and that's why he kind of couldn't, you know, he came out and said, you know, bernie sanders has an awful lot of credibility and went out of his way i should say to say look, hillary clinton has come up with great propels during this campaign but i do think there is a sense she thinks she's a
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johnny come lately to this sort of issue of income inequality. >> i want to ask you on the mike bloomberg thing, the story out there looking at the possibility. do you think there is a viable lane for him? >> well, it would have to be a very specific set of circumstances. you know, if he -- if the republican party nominated, say, a donald trump or a ted cruz and he discerned weakness in the democratic nominee because he viewed sanders as too far to the left or hillary as too vulnerable because of her own issues, you know, i would think he would look at it. let's remember that mike bloomberg looked at this before. it's a very, very taxing difficult enterprise to try and run for president as an independent. the system isn't set up for it. so, you know, my guess is that this doesn't happen but i've been -- i also, my guess was that donald trump wouldn't be the front runner in january, so what do i know?
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[ laughter ] >> what do you know? >> you and everybody else. david axle rod and glor boringer, thanks. >> president obama's final state of the union address is tomorrow and expert analysis for hours after that. i hope you join us. just ahead, breaking news, new video of the deadly raid that led to the capture of eloque eloque"el chap chapo". the chaos when it military stormed the hideout. [ sneezing ]
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of the union address is tomorrow
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>> president obama's final state tonight new developments in the shooting of a philadelphia police officer. surveillance camera captured the attack. jessie hartnett was shot three times in the arm and got out of his car, shot the suspect as he ran away. edward archer said he did pledge allegiance to isis and police are looking at a tip from an anonymous citizen to archer's
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ties to radical islam. 3 >> a tip came from saturday from a woman who told an officer that archer had belonged to a group that was radicalized. the police union weighing in on this more about this tip saying that they heard that the tipster said that police should be looking at at least three other men and that archer was the least radicalized of the group. what they have to do now, anderson, is determine investigators have to determine if this is just street talk. is this rumor or is there something more to this? >> right. obviously need to know how credible the information. have they been able to determine that? >> this is what they are working on but for right now police are saying that they are taking this tip seriously. they are working along with the fbi as well. what they will do is going back, interviewing everyone that archer knew, especially those who knee him closely going back to the mosques where he worshipp worshipped. once again, all in an attempt to try to determine if this tip is
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valid. >> and how is the officer doing, officer hartnett? >> in stable but critical condition. police saying he had an operation today. he's going to have multiple operations as you know. he was shot in the arm three times and has extensive nerve damage. one of the interesting things is his father said he's a tough guy. when you look at the video and see how closely he was shot at close range, he's a lucky man, as well. >> had the presence of mind to get on the radio and also chase the guy and shoot him. appreciate the reporting. to breaking news in mexico. tonight we've got new video showing the deadly raid at the highout of "el chapo." look at this. it lasts for about three minutes. it's amazing. [ gunshots ]. [speaking foreign language].
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[speaking foreign language]. >> "el chapo" had been on the run for six months after breaking out of a maximum security prison. he's waiting extradition to the u.s. that could take months. actor sean penn has become part of the story. martin savidge has the very latest. >> reporter: tonight video of the deadly raid that led to the capture of one of the world's most wanted fugitives. five people killed in a shootout at the safe house of joaquin guzman, better known as "el chapo.." >> this may have been the next stop in this incredible drama. look down here. that appears to be a storm drain, sewer, but as you can see, large enough for a person to get through and according to the authorities, "el chapo" and
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an associate managed to escape from the home through a sewer. but they didn't get far and "el chapo" was captured soon after as details are emerging about a rolling stone interview published over the weekend revealing the notorious mexican drug lord met with a hollywood a lister, sean penn and mexican actress kate del castillo while on the run. the meeting with an interview was conducted in the mexican jungle in october. in it, the drug king pen talks candidly about his business. [speaking foreign language]. >> translator: well, it's a reality drugs destroy. where i grew up, there is no other way and there still isn't a way to survive, another way to work. >> penn's written article describes the hour that began with a hug and notes the drug lord is remarkably well groomed unquote. as he sips tequila and bragged
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about his fleet of drugs and airplanes and boats. "el chapo" wanted her help to create a biopic about his life. he was asked about images published in the mexican news media today that appear to show officials watching he and castillo before the meeting with "el chapo." penn's response, quote, i got nothing to hide, unquote. authorities want to question penn but it's not clear if he broke any laws. "el chapo" meanwhile is back in the same prison he escaped from. officials started the process of extraditing "el chapo" to the u.s. where he faces drug trafficking charges. >> this bragging action how much heroin he sends around the world including the united states is maddening. we see a heroin endpidemic in ts country. we'll stay on top of this with
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murder mystery in italy, a 35-year-old american woman was found dead this weekend. her death is being treated as a homicide. italian authorities say no one has been named as a suspect, but no suspects have been named and no one has been arrested. italian authorities are promising to pursue every angle. randi kaye has the latest. >> reporter: a grewsome discovery, saturday afternoon in florence, italy. this american-born artist found dead in her apartment. the italian news agency says 35-year-old ashley olson was naked with bruising around her neck and ankles. it is said she was strangled, but investigators won't say for sure until the autopsy is complete. >> translator: this is a quiet neighborhood, almost spotless, i would say. but now it has blood on it and i don't like it.
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>> reporter: so far, police don't believe she was sexually assaulted, but there was no sign of forced entry examine no suspects. still, the city's chief prosecutor telling cnn they have yet to exclude anyone, cluls olson's italian boyfriend, even though he has an alibi in line with testimony from other witnesses. he told authorities she had argued and when he was unable to reach her, he went to her apartment and that's when her body was discovered. her loyal companion, a beagle named scout was by her side. >> she was often here taking her dog always, always cheerful, always smiling. >> the florida native moved to italy years ago to be closer to her father. olsen was last seen late thursday night and friday morning at a florence nightclub. the activity on her home computer stopped around noon friday arch. so by the time her body was discovered on saturday, she may have been dead for some time. olsen's instagram account may
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offer some clues. the account includes bizarre postings like this one. she writes, i have a stalker with a #stalkeralert and creeper in the back. in this photo with her boyfriend, she used the hashtag creepers. a month ago, she posted this. ashley, please, baby, i'm so sorry. i can't cry any more. please come back to me.. i love you. with the hashtags, for me, and you shouldn't have. and this was her last post, kiss me hard before you go. olsen's friend of more than a decade back in florida can hardly believe she's gone. >> i've never met anyone quite like ashley. she had her special spark. and she -- anyone that met her loved her. she never met anyone that didn't like her. >> randi joins me now. this case does sound, you know, familiar. another american woman at the center of a mysterious murder in
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italy. >> absolutely, and, of course, you're referring to the amanda knox case. in that case, her roommate was found dead in her apartment in italy. knox and her boyfriend, you'll recall, were tried and convicted twice for the murder of mayor kercher. but just last year, italy exonerated both of them. the lead investigator of the amanda knox case is heading up this ashley olsen case. so many mistakes were made early on in that amanda knox investigation. even that was said when the italian high court ruled. so this case will be given maximum attention to be sure it is handled properly. >> thanks very much. barbly ladoe is joining us. she's the rome bureau chief for the daily beast. she's written a book about the amanda knox case.
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it's called "ainngel face." it's difficult not to compare this to the amanda knox case. >> there are so many investigators, investigator who is the same, the journalist who is the same, another beautiful italian town, another american woman who was in italy for all practical purposes to have an enjoyable time and it ended very badly. but the biggest similarity is there are so many more questions than answers at this point in the investigation. >> and the first wave of headlines, when i think back to amanda knox and the italian press, the images they presented was of this american honor student. the coverage switched in tone quickly. what are you seeing in this case in terms of the coverage and the early attention? >> well, we are seeing, really, the same thing, you know. on saturday, when the body was found, as people started combing through her social network pages, and the things that she uploaded about herself and the
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information she gave to the public about herself, you know, you had this beautiful american woman, you know, walking her dog through the streets of flaurns. everyone was great. people were talking about how great she was. and we're seeing a slight shift. now she's becoming a bit of a party girl. we're seeing reports that her friends left her at a club at 3:00 in the morning. you're seeing, sort of, the italian press, as they did with amanda knox, paint ago picture of this american girl gone wild abroad. and, you know, the verths, as well, starting to gone yip a little bit. i think it's going to be when we get the results of the autopsy and we have more clarity and to the circumstances of her death, how that's going to play finally. if she -- there are some lines of investigation right now, for example, that her boyfriend may have had an alibi, may have been with her -- his mother. if that proves to be the case, and it's someone that she met at a bar and took home or something like that, which is obviously one of the investigative paths
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right now, that is going to play badly in terms of how the italian press paint the picture of this american the girl gone wild again. >> and what sort of timeline are we looking at with regard to the investigation? >> this is very, very different than the united states. for example, they found the body saturday. they didn't do the autopsy until monday because people don't work on sunday. that's the sort of thing you're looking at all the way through. they also found a bra that was draped over a bicycle today, two days after, you know, the murder. the body was found, things like that. whether that's attached to the crime or not, we don't know. but you have the spectacle of the police investigators collecting this last evidence two days after the murder took place. these all really, you know, remind a lot of us of the amanda knox investigation. >> yeah.. barb barbie, thanks very much. in rome tonight. i appreciate it. we'll be right back. hey!
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