>> welcome to cnn l.a. isha sesay. >> and i'm john vasuse. '. >> authorities are in pursuit of one attacker in jakarta who

escaped from the scene and is probably armed. >> there's been no game claims of responsibility and police have not named any suspects. indonesia has been on high alert in recent weeks with the police and military joint operations focused on hitting the east indian mujahadin which has pledged support for isis. one gunman, maybe more is believed to have been holed it. it appeared the police were preparing to go in? >> that's right, john. we actually saw several dozens of them fully armed going to the building. we're actually seeing now men in civilian clothes also entering the building. the situation is quite tense around this area. it's been cordoned off. i'm seeing across the street just by the side of the building where the u.n. offices are of many bystanders watching from afar.

but we're being kept quite far away from this. and from what i'm seeing, though, this is an operation definitely going on here. the police have surrounded the skyline building. and there's right now an operation going on for sure. john? >> and just for our viewers who may be joining us, kathy, let's just recap what we have learned over the last hour or so from police in terms of the targets here, what was used by these attackers. and what exactly the police have been telling us. >> john, i recaearlier, the nat police spokesman spoke to report just outside of the building. where the -- in front of the police station there was a target. there were four people who were killed. one of them a policeman and three civilians, but he could

not confirm if the civilians were innocent bystanders or were actually attackers who lobbed grenades at the police station earlier today. he staid there were motor bikes as well. although earlier witness accounts said the men had walked towards the police station and then threw the grenades at the policemen. killing one of them there. there was a an exchange of gunfire. and there was at least one armed suspect who escaped from the scene and fled into the skyline building, which was just across the police station. it was an intersection, a very busy intersection. we have office buildings around the commercial establishments here. everything is on lockdown now. there are reports that people are still in the offices in the buildings around the area, and we're seeing as of this moment a police operation that's still going upon john? >> kathy, the death toll you just gaye us four which you

received from the indonesian police spokesman do we have any more details as to whether those numbers i collude the attackers? were the attackers killed and what took place today. >> the policeman said he could not confirm that. he said we were still unable to identify the civilian victims. so he would not confirm that. and he also said that it was still unclear who was responsible for this attack. certainly no one has claimed responsibility for it. although there's a lot of speculation here from social media now, people who were claiming to know of the attack, but again that's all confirmed right now. all we can say for sure is what the police told us yerler, that four people died in the i a tack. >> kathy, just explain to us exactly where you are right now. not far from the skyline building in relation to the starbucks, which was hit in up with of these explosions.

and also the building which houses the united nations. so can you sort of put that all into sort of perspective for us? >> it's an intersection. i've gone closer now. there's also a mcdonald's which is populated 24 hours. it is opened 24 mourps it's very crowded all the time. so this mcdonald's is right across from the police outpost, which is at the center of the street at the intersection, and you have the u.n. offices, the office building that houses the u.n. is right across it. we also have a department store where i'm at now, where the mcdonald's was. it's located. so yus imagine how busy this area is. also a main thoroughfare. and it's very close to

government office and commercial buildings. john? >> okay, kathy. we would like you to stay with us, but in the meantime, we've got bob baer, our security analyst joining us now from tell rude in colorado. so bob, no one is saying it, certainly not officially at this point that this could be isis. either isis directive or isis inspired. if you look at how this is carried out, maybe as many as 14 attackers involved, certainly four confirmed by police. what's your take? >> i think it looks like isis right now. of course, maybe the indonesians doens know. there's been no claim so far. but it looks like the paris attack, multiple teams, explosions. weapons. and you have to deep in mind that the indonesians have fairly well closed down the o old terrorists groups have been you shall kred in that country. and indonesian radicals have moved towards the islamic state. and they've gone to syria and

they've gone to iraq where they've got training. on the other hand, a lot of them are coming home. right now my guess is islamic state. >> how good is indonesian intelligence? >> they're good locally but, you know, as far as syria and iraq go, they have no intelligence resources there. they can't keep track of that. they get good intelligence. locally they've got some problems. but, you know, these groups are underground groups. and they're very difficult to get all of them. and we have to remember that islamic state affiliates are expanding very quickly all over the world. whether it's libya or indonesia

or tunisia. they're not going away. this virus is getting stronger rather than getting weaker despite of the fall of ramadi and losing a lo the of territory in iraq. >> where would someone get grenades and automat weapons? >> there's always smugglers. >> is it difficult? >> no, it's not difficult. if you're well organized and you have money and threw believers, you can always get weapons. and it doesn't matter what part of the world. i can't imagine someplace where you couldn't get them. and these people are so determined and they do have a lot of money and sympathizers. we just have to admit it.

>> they may not agree with all the tactics, because they're fighting a cause many people think is worthwhile. people are leaving the taliban for the islamic state. it's picking up strength. >> a couple of days ago there was a bombing in istanbul in a tourist area. ten germans killed. obviously tourists were target there had. and again in downtown jakarta. an area with a starbucks, mcdonald's, embassy. there seems to be a pattern here, right? >> exactly. and the turkish police are very good. i've worked with them before. thierks ordinary. but they can't keep frac of all the people coming across the border. and they can't keep track of weapons as well. it's not like in turkey you can buy an automatic weapon over the counter. and the police are very, very good. they still can get explosives in, they can still get weapons

in. and the tactics here, or the strategy, i should say, is to disrupt as many countries as they can. and they seem to be doing a pretty good job of it. >> job, as you talk about the ease with which one can pass through the borders in indonesia or at least smuggle things, let me ask you about regional cooperation between indonesia and its neighbors. how good is that when it comes to fighting this terror threat? >> it's very good. but they're still blind sided. you know, we have to go back and look at the islamic state. what they really need are sources inside these groups. they need sources in raqqah that they don't have. it's impossible to recruit a decent source. and with the islamic state getting better at understanding our intercept capabilitiecapabi they're just simply going off

the air and using courier, they're using encryption and the rest of it. it gets more and more difficult to track them. these people have learned a lot from that. >> bob baer, former cia operative and now a security and intelligence analyst giving us insight from telluride in colorado. let's go to a witness to the attack. a chief representative officer. he joins us on the phone. just explain to us exactly how close have you been to this scene? anticipate what has been going on. what have you seen in the last couple of hours? >> it's just 500 meters away from our office. we can see a lot of city.

we just saw really huge smoke and sounded like an explosion. and we were wondering what it is. because at first we thought it was from the construction site which is next to our building. but then we heard it was near the starbucks or the police station. then there were another explosion, five or six explosions or gunshots, which was really weird. then we realized okay, there's something going on. our building is completely locked down. we cannot enter or leave the building. but so far everything is safe here. it probably will take a few hours, i guess. but i don't know what happens. nobody knows here what's going on. >> i don't know if you' been told, i imagine to stay away from the window, but what can you tell us about the scene playing outside right now? >> it looks like the whole

street is still locked down. maybe there's still another terrorist i don't know. but it looks like nobody is moving and it's like a huge area 100 or 200 meters around the area. and a lot of police and rescue cars are parked there. it's still not over yet. >> you heard five or sixes blasts initially. have you heard any explosions since. we heard there has been a another explosion in the last ten or 15 minutes, not far from where you are. >> to be honest, i didn't hear anything but what happened two years ago. our friends tell us where they

are and they're safe or something like that. or a lot of rumors. that there are more explosions in the cities. but then it turns out it was just a fake and nobody knows what's really going on. nobody knows if it's true or not. >> clearly everybody is on edge, obviously. >> when you look out your window we see an incredible military presence there right now. with armored personnel carriers, soldiers and a lot of police. can you can you see that from your vantage point? >> yeah, we can see that from here. >> how does it look to you from where you are? >> yeah, it looks really like a massive presence of police and military. but yeah, as i said before, they're not moving to the scene. it still looks like they're

still waiting for something or somebody. maybe they're still monitoring a person, yoen. but it looks a little bit like that. and before the police, a lot of people were just in the first step going to the scene like it was pretty crowded there. and suddenly everybody rupp away. so something happened obviously. but we do not know anything else. >> and obviously your ear hunkering in place. you're in your building right now. are there a lot of other people there with you? what's the situation where you are. describe that for us. >> yeah, we're sitting here with the police. the local indonesians are working with us. they're worried with their family and friends and check if they're safe and home. everybody is a little bit worried because nobody knows how long it will take. what's the next step. but y5, we haven't had a chance to wait here because it's

probably the safest place and not to be on the street at moment. >> christian, thank you for being with us. thank you for describing the scene and what you have heard over the last couple of hours. one of many people now who are in a lock down situation in downtown jakarta. a very busy area. right in the central downtown where there's luxury hotels. the u.n. headquarters also on lockdown. we also have this word coming to us from the u.s. embassy keling citizens to shelter in place, not to leave. similar advice being put out to the australian citizens in jakarta as well. i imagine a lot of other embassies are putting out a similar advice to their nationals in indonesia's capital right now. >> we are closely watching the situation involving the skyline building. police have entered a short time ago in pursuit of a gunman,

gunmen. the numbers are fluid here, but we know at least one armed individual is believed to have entered this multistory building that actually use to house the old cnn bureau, i believe, as you have been telling me. so now the situation is they are inside. we don't know what is playing out. we know on the ground floor of this multistory building, there were commercial establishments. again, unclear whether the entire building has been evacuated while this operation is ongoing. but this is something we're watching very, very closely. kathy quia is there and we'll bring you details as they come into us. we're going to take a very quick break. stay with us.

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>> police say at least four people are dead, including one policeman in an explosion in city center. it's one of several blasts that happened in the capital. no one has claimed responsibility at this point. but the suspicion is falling on isis. >> a police spokesman said the attackers used grenades a thaz

targeted a police station. a gun fight broke out between officers and the attackers. right now, police are vournding a building as they search for the suspects in this attack. >> cnn indonesian reporter is in jakarta. he's here with more on this. i believe you're there on the scene. just tell us what is happening right now. in particular with regards to the skyline building. are police going in there at this point. are they searching ining the b or is it more of a standoff right now? >> i think we may have lost her. we're hearing word from indones indonesia's president. he was not in the capital at the time. he's kit his trip short to return to the capital. he's now saying that these attacks are -- or these blasts are an attack of terror,

statement, urging indonesians not to speculate on who may be behind the attacks. many people are believing that possibly isis could be behind this. but there are a lot of other suspects in the area. it looked a lot like the attacks that happened in paris. >> this is a group, isis, and its oko horts and affiliates that's growing rapidly and stronger around the world. this is a threat now that faces us all. indonesia in the spotlight. but it's not been confirmed who's behind these attack. no one has claimed responsibility. but as john just pointed out, we are hearing from the press agency, now reporting that the indonesian president is calling the jakarta blasts acts of terror. we'll continue to follow the situation for you. >> jeremy douglas is with the

united nations office on drugs and crime. he's in jakarta and he heard a series of blasts. >> i was in the car. and our driver got a call from our security asking where we were. they said a bomb had gone off in front of the building. but we were actually luckily pulling into the back of the building. we pulled up and got out of the car. there was a little bit of chaos because people weren't quite sure what was going on. and then a second bomb went off as we were getting out of the car. and we basically rushed into the building. then a third bomb went off. we went up to our office on the tenth floor and now we're in lockdown on the tenth floor op our office building. and then a fourth and a fifth and a sixth bomb and then we heard small arms fire in the street in front of the building. >> and i understand there's an internal note there from the u.n. saying at least one u.n. employee has been injured? >> yeah. we're not -- there's a lot of information flying around, and i don't zsh i'm not privy to that, but we've got our -- one of my

u.n. colleagues is rushing to find out what's happened. and see if -- see what need to be done. but i can't confirm that at this time. >> okay. >> and jeremy, so just walk us through what your sense is of the situation at the scene now in term of police response, and in term of just, you know, the situation on the ground right now. >> sure, sure. i'm looking out the window right now at a couple of armored personnel carriers and tactical teams. what we're told is there's a gunman who's holed up in a small shopping arcade across the street, shopping mall. where -- so they're keeping the corner locked down. so i can see probably about 40 police, tactical or s.w.a.t. team-type police right now.

>> so jeremy, paint a picture of this area. i've been to jakarta a few times. if i'm not mistaken, this is an out market area of jakarta. we understand the u.n. is there, a number of embassies. luxury hotels. we know there was a starbucks which appears to have been at least maybe targeted in this. i guess we don't know. but it was certainly damaged by the blasts. >> yeah, this's exactly right. you couldn't get much more central in jakarta if you tried. you've got major international hotel chains all over the place. you've got the u.n., the japanese embassy. so there's a big diplomatic community, there's a big business community. if you wanted to get visibility for what you're trying to do, this is the place to do it. in fact, that's why i came down. i'm based in bangkok but i've come down to talk to the government about that exactly that.

just happens to be interesting timing. >> jeremy douglas from the u.n. jakarta speaking to us. just a heads up for our viewer the. there's a very lengthy delay here, so bear with us. we would like to talk about what is happen right now. explain what is happening around you and what have you seen? what's the very latest? >> i eemt right now standing like 500 meeters before me. there's a scene when the bomb explosion happened early this morning. this is the right spot.

where you want to put horror. a couple of kilometers ahead would be the presidential palace. behind me over there, there will be a central business district. when activities, business happen every day. this is the right spot if you want to get attention from indonesian and the world. again, the terror is continue. because what we heard from the police that several suspects still in the building. and we don't know yet how many hostage been kept there.

but chief of police already been on the ground. also the chief of the intelligence in this country and tried to negotiate or put things to be done until the her ror and the terror are finished. john? >> just to clarify a few things for us that you said just then, do we know from the police if there are hostages inside that building that police have surrounded because the gunmen are believed to be inside? and did you say that negotiations are under way with the gunman? do i have that right? >> well, we don't know yet because there's no official information coming from the authority, but they are there and the gunmen, a couple of

gupmen, we don't know how many approximately the number of the gunmen are still in the building. but yeah, they're still there and they tried to, you know, make it they come out or surrender. >> okay. we appreciate you being with us, giving us that live update, painting a picture of exactly what has been happening. as you say, they wanted to get attention, this was an area ripe for being hit in this kind of attack. thank you very much for being with us. please stay with us. much more on oyou are breaking news. we'll be back in just a moment. stay with us. i am about to embark on a long and dangerous journey.

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police say at least four people are dead including one policeman in a series of grenade and gun attacks in jakarta. >> a spokesperson said they used grenades. a gun fight broke out between officers and the attackers. and police are actively searching now for a number of suspects. bring us up to speed. what are you hear, what are you seeing?

>> i left the skyline. what we saw was the starbucks cafe with all the windows blown out. there was a ro rt that there was a gun fight that happened there after grenades were thrown at the police station across the street. the aftermath of that, seeing starbucks now and that's probably why, as we reported earlier, heavily armed men entered the building where the starbucks coffee shop was. it took a while, but then as i left the build, i saw them coming out and the police cordoning off. it's still unclear, though, what really transpired and who's behind it and what happened to the armed suspects who reportedly escaped after the gun

fight in the building. isha? >> kathy, we're having a few problems with your audio. it's not very clear. so apologies to our viewers for that. but let me just get some clarification. are you saying that the operation in the skyline building is over? is that what you're saying? >> i left a few minutes ago and walked further down the street. but the police let journalists and bystanders come in. they took out some of the [ no audio ] >> okay, we've got some problems with kathy's line there. kathy with eel have to leave it there. we're having some problems hearing you. we appreciate the reporting and for the update. just to remind our viewers what kathy said there, she left the skyline building where police had surrounded with the thought that maybe some gunman, or at least one gunman had gone inside. she passed a starbucks cafe with

windows blown out. this was across the road from the police station which appeared to be the place of the initial attack. the starbucks cafe was also hit with these explosions. and kathy reporting to us that at some point between the initial attack and now, police, heavily armed police have raided that building where the starbucks cafe is located in search of other suspects. it's not known at this point if the suspects have escaped or if they're still being pursued by the police or if they've been caught or they've been killed. so clearly there's a lot of unanswered questions at this point. all of this happening just within the last couple of hours. and it's still an active crime scene, because there is at least one heavily armed suspect, according to police, who is still on the ploops. >> yeah. indeed, the indonesian president coming out and saying, calling these blasts an act of terror. as you saw with those picture, we had on the screen just a short time ago, very, very

strong security presence there at the scene as you might expect. we're still trying to get some clarify as to to what is happening, twho they're in pursuit of. and the skyline building we've been watching a great deal. >> we will leave this story for the time being as we try to work out what's been going on. if we get updates, we will bring them to you. in the meantime, another major story. financial markets have been slidi sliding further into negative territo territory. in tokyo, the nikkei took a big hit. look at that, down almost 2.75%. it was a little bit worse during the day. hong kong down by a third of 1%. the shanghai up and down, all over the place for most of the day. now it looks to be up by more than 1%. and in australia, the asx 100 closed down by 1.5%. all new york indices are down

10% or more from their recent highs. the dow fell 364 points. the nasdaq was down 3.5%. the s&p 500 lost 2.5%. let's bring in cnn asia pacific editor live this hour in congress hong kong. so andrew, stocks in china rebounding just a little bit? they're pretty much down to their lows we saw last summer. six months of government efforts to prop up the markets, pretty much for nothing? >> well, yes. in a word. i mean, it's been a miserable time to be an investor in shanghai as we all know. this market is so distorted at the moment now with restrictions on what you can and can't sell. it's very difficult to get a handle on exactly what the valuation of the shanghai market other than most people saying it's way too high. but it's a reflection of what's really been a miserable start to the year. not just for investors in the dhien fla markets but pretty much across the wrld.

you mention those numbers on wall street in correction territory. from late last year. more than 10%. yes, the markets in asia did crawl off their lows for the day. of at one point, japan was down 4%, which is a very, very big move for the nikkei. shanghai, nikkei in tokyo, all down by a long way from the start of this year. the zip, just to give you some sort of context down by 7.5% as well. it's been a tough start to the year. the plunging oil price, oil in asia continuing to fall. stabilize just in the last hour or so. around about the $30 barrel mark. and also what's going on in the chinese economy, how week sit. and what does that mean for the

broader global economic story. we can't really read anything into that at this stage. >> i guess the question is how will that compete into the european markets and u.s. markets. and there's a lot of to go through. >> we continue a short time ago, the lives of at least four people, including one police officer. we will have the very latest for you after a break. stay with us. we'll be right back back after this this . and can you explain why you recommend synthetic over cedar? "super food?" is that a real thing? it's a great school, but is it the right one for her? is this really any better than the one you got last year? if we consolidate suppliers, what's the savings there? so should we go with the 467 horsepower? ...or is a 423 enough?

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>> welcome back, everybody. breaking news out of jakarta. according to the rueters news agen agency, police say they have shot down four suspected attackers who were involved in a gun and bomb attack in the capital of jakarta earlier today. apparently this all began outside of a police station. what we've been told was three were shot dead. a fourth is on the run. but now it appears that maybe all of the attackers, if we were to believe that there were four involved, there have been other reports that this number may be much higher. >> as high as 14 in some cases. >> but at this point, it appears four suspects involved in this attack, which involved automatic gunfire, as well as grenades have been killed by police.

>> kathy, as we get this word from rueter, what more can you tell us? >> well, isha, we cannot independently confirm that information as of yet, but we do know that police were in pursuit of an armed suspect earlier after the gun fight. and the grenade explosions. and they were reportedly inside an office building, skyline building. i earlier saw heavily armed policemen, a special forces going into the building. as i left that building, i also thought it seems the operation had winded down. i'm told now that police are still inside the building, although journalists and bystanders are able to go closer. and what we saw there was a starbucks cafe where the gun fight allegedly happened. all the windows are blown out in the aftermath of the gun fight

that happened there between the police and the attackers. isha. >> if you look around you, it would appear that this is winding down, these four attackers were quite possibly the only men who were voefed in this gun and bomb attack in the indonesian capital? >> certainly, john, i saw a change from a very tense situation where the building was heavily guarded. it was surrounded by special forces from the police. you had civilians, policemen as well entering there. and police very harshly telling us to stay away because there was an operation going on. i could see a change. they had relaxed security around the building. i suspect there's some kind of development in terms of their pursuit of this.

again, we need to confirm that with police we'll confirm that as soon as we can. >> and kathy, you moved away from the area where the skyline building is. let me ask you what the situation is in other parts of the capital. there had been reports of explosions in other locations. what can you tell us? >> again, those reports have not been confirmed. there's been a lot of speculations and rumors going onka social media, people calling each other, understand biably because they're very worried about the situation now. there's been a lot of speculation but none of those have been confirmed. alleged explosions happened in other parts of the city. we know for sure there's one attack that happened in the center of down, which is one of the main thoroughfares in jakarta.

we know for sure people were on the edge. they were talking about it. it's been many year since an attack in the capital has happened. >> very quickly, many of the buildings around the scene of the attack have been hordered to lock down from what you can tell is that order appears to have -- i think we lost kathy. there are initial reports of bomb blasts in djakarta. now what we're being told is that four attackers have been shot dead by the indonesian police.

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battle took place between police and the militants in the same building where a star bucks cafe was attacked earlier. a police station was an apparent target earlier in the day and the gunmen used grenades in the attack. >> there's been no claim of responsibility so far, but indonesia has been on high alert in recent weeks, and police and the military have been going after a group which pledged support for isis. i want to check whether we have our cnn -- we're going to go to kathy shortly who is in jakarta. not so long ago she was outside the skyline building where there was a lot of drama, but now we have her. kathy, talk to us as we've been reporting, four suspects have been shot by police. does that mean this has brought these circumstances to an end, or is there a possibility that

there are more suspects out there, and talk to us, too, about how the police, how the military got to this point where the four suspects were killed. >> reporter: well, we're trying to confirm the reports that four suspects have been killed. we know for a fact early on police said three civilians, one killed in the attack, and possibly the attacker. we're trying to confirm that. what i saw earlier, the skyline buildings, 150 meters behind me was heavily armed special forces going into the skyline buildings where they thought this armed suspect had fled into after the attack and gunfight that ensued in the cafe. i also saw star bucks as i walked here, the windows broken up and the aftermath of gone smoke between the police and the attacker.

as i said, earlier a tense situation. it was heavily guarded. protected from all sides. it's an intersection which is just in front of the police station. and it's surrounded by office buildings, commercial establishments. there are side streets as well in the area, and the suspect would have fled through that building outside to the side street by the skyline building. it seems as i left, that things died down. we saw . >> so at this point, it appears from you're saying that this has come to an end, this incident, that these four suspects apparently, we're hearing from cnn indonesia, confirmation that the four suspects were killed in that jakarta attack, so now we

assume the security, police are trying to secure that area. what are you seeing happen right now? >> reporter: well, one of our colleagues told me earlier that there's still police forces inside the building, and not quite sure what's happening inside. perhaps they're sweeping the building, making sure it's safe. it seems like in looking down the street here that the operation has gone down, but we don't know what the next steps would be in terms of securing the area and making sure that there are no other threats here or in other part of the city. we know there was a lot of speculation. social media, people calling each other and worried about reports of other things that

were not confirmed. >> kathy, interestingly, there has been no claim of responsibility at this point. but we do know that indonesia's president has put this down to terrorism. clearly that is what we're dealing with here. but would they go so far as saying this is, perhaps, isis-related in some way? >> reporter: that certainly is on the minds of authorities here. the police spokesman said as much earlier when he was speaking to reporters just outside the site where the attacks happened. he did say that terrorism was suspected and there were -- they are looking to involvement of groups who have allegiance to isis. we know there was an operation that was going on, they were going after a certain group in indonesia headed by a man who is the most wanted terrorist in

indonesia. police are going after him. and we know that they saw him as a threat because he pledged allegiance to isis. this threat was taken seriously by the government, especially through christmas and the new year holiday. there was heightened security in places of worship and commercial establishments across the country. indonesia, it's hard to -- it's been a while since the last attack happened in jakarta. >> as you mentioned, indonesia has been on high alert in recent weeks. have you seen a noticeable difference in security in the city, and quickly, how quickly do you think police actually got onto this? did they move fast when this initially happened? >> reporter: well, from what we heard, i think the response was quick, because a police outpost was attacked in this particular

explosion this morning. it was swift, and it's toward the central area. the response was very quick. i got there, you know, a few minutes after the explosion happened, and special forces were heavily armed going into the building. the police here, they have been recommended and recognized for the work they've done in terms of breaking down the terror network in indonesia and there was a group responsible for the body bombings. but what you're seeing here is smaller sen tgroups that are ra and checking different methods in terms of launching attacks here that have become smaller and they've also attacked police and government authorities more than western targets.

>> if you could just clarify something for us, because we know in the early stages that there were four people killed. one of them a police officer. now we're learning four suspects were killed. can you talk to us and just clarify there who the other three, the people killed, were they civilians or possibly three of the suspects? and we're doing some double counts here? >> reporter: well, from the statements, they confirmed the three were civilians and there was one policeman. what he couldn't confirm was if there were attackers or innocent bystanders or happened to be passing by. this is a main thoroughfare, and it was near a pedestrian lane, but people don't normally walk along that police post because

there's a bus lane, and people are not supposed to be walking there. it's assumed then that maybe the civilians were possibly the attackers, and if they're saying four people were killed, four suspects for killed, three for attackers. >> three perhaps attackers and you mentioned the skyline building. when that man was pursued, the suspect pursued into that building. you said he got away. can we assume from this, but we don't want to speculate, but that they tracked him down after he left the building? did he see anything happen after that? you saw them go in. did you see them come out? >> reporter: i saw them go in, and as i said, it was quite tense for a while. there were several groups of armed men going inside. but quite suddenly it seemed to

have dyied down, the tension an the security was loosening around the building. they took off the police lines and then they were able to go in. clearly, there was a development that happened at that point. >> and kathy, you're there on the street. describe to us where you are exactly, and what people are saying, how people in jakarta are responding to this, at least now, it seems everything has died down. it looks like we've lost kathy. we'll try to reestablish contact with her. of course, she was on the line, and then we had her live. there are difficulties with live television always, but kathy joining us there live from jakarta, and bringing us up to date. she was talking about the numbers there. we have been reporting to you, and it has been confirmed through cnn indonesia that the four suspects have been killed by police. now we understand, we were

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>> our breaking news in indonesia. police say they killed four people who launched a series of gun and bomb attacks. no one has claimed responsibility at this point. the country has been on high alert over threats from a terror group linked to isis. >> police have deployed throughout the downtown area, raiding at least one building as they search for any more suspects. the country's president calls the attacks an act of terror. cnn producer, kathy joins us now from jakarta with more on this. kathy, you've been following every twist and turn.

you're very close to where this all unfolded a short time ago. just update us on the current security situation there, and if the primary concern is over or if there could be suspects still on the loose. >> errol, i think we're getting from police press conference that happened earlier is that the police confirmed that the bodies of the four suspects had been picked up by ambulances from the site and were brought to a police hospital. that we can confirm already. as we see, the security has been loosened around the building, comparing to what it was earlier. it was very tense, heavily armed police forces entered the building in pursuit of this armed suspect. now that's changed. security is now quite loose and bystanders able to go by the building. the can confirm the bodies of the four suspects have been

taken out of the site to a police hospital. >> and kathy, let's rewind a bit and detail how all of this unfolded. you are in central jakarta, a busy intersection next to this mall. explain why this would be a prime target for any terror group. >> well, errol, this is a very busy intersection. you have commercial establishments, star bucks, mcdonald's across the street. you have offices that house the u.n. this is a street that's busy any time of the day, particularly during the lunch hour where people are walking past, traffic is also quite heavy in this area. this would be a prime target for terrorists, and it is not a surprise that they picked this one. also, there was a police outpost

in the middle of the street. this is on an island which separates the sides of the street. we know terror cells recently have targeted mostly the police and government authorities. shifting from western targets from soft targets that would hit innocent civilians. this is probably not a surprise that they chose to attack a police station first. >> let's talk a bit more about the prime suspects, who is potential he behind this. the president already saying this was, in fact, an act of terror with so many attacks globally being carried out by isis or isissympathizers, talk to us about the country's most wanted terrorism. he has been a prime target of

officials of late. >> reporter: satu is, according to a lot of terror analysts is not a significant figure in terms of old terror systems, but he had links to them, and he claimed to be the leader of the east indonesia network and said had a base and started recruiting. he's known to have built and operated militant training camp. there are even reports of some chinese, foreign fighters who were trying to get to him to join his network. again, it's a very small group. what has concerned the government authorities here, though, is that he had pledged allegiance and support to isis. that, of course, raised the red flags, and that was also the

reason why there was a joint police military operation against this group from december to january. they were able to arrest several of his supporters, but they have not gotten to him. it's still believed here, though, that support for isis is not very large, particularly with general population. there are a number of indonesians in the hundreds, who are confirmed to have traveled to syria. some of them to fight with isis, but it's not confirmed if all of them wanted that. but there is a radical fringe here in this country that's attracted to what isis, you know, is promising to many muslims around the world. they want to join the jihad. they want to be part of the caliphate and to live there, mostly. now, what the concern, they said was that when some of these indonesians would come back to the country, probably more capable and determined to launch

attacks. that was certainly a concern that the government took seriously. >> on that point, the government estimates that roughly 700 nationals there are fighting -- are foreign fighters in iraq, not necessarily fighting alongside isis, but they're there. considering the country has a population of 200 million, it really is a small number by kpars comparison, also considering this is a majority muslim country. the most populous muslim country in the world. there's not the same type of dissent toward them, because they're the majority. explain to us the differences they face with isis and foreign fighters considering it is a majority muslim country. >> reporter: that's true. many have surmised that because it is a country that's majority muslim population, you know,

they still claim to be moderate and secular. they're not the minority that's been discriminated here in this country. there's not a lot of reason for them to join the jihad, for example. i think the main thing here is that people oppose the messes that isis has taken in terms of launching attacks and treating other muslims as well. that has angered many of the muslims in indonesia. that's why you don't see too many of them joining isis right now. >> kathy is our cnn producer in the center of jakarta, indonesia. very close to where there were a series of explosions and an exchange of gunfire with police. the latest information from police is that the four suspects behind this have been killed so the chaos of the incident has ended but questions remain, who was behind it, what was the motive, how many civilians were involved and injured in all of this? we'll continue to gather more information and bring you the

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let's get you the latest information on our breaking news out of jakarta. police say they've killed four people who launched a series of gun and bomb attacks. there's a lot of confusion right now. this is a fluid situation as we have been told earlier that pun policeman may have been killed. >> it's worth noting that no one has claimed responsibility at this point. but the country has been on high alert over threats from a terror group linked to isis. the country's president calls the attacks an act of terror. clearly that is what we're dealing with here as to who exactly, they're not completely sure, but they are fairly sure that there is a link here with isis. but we're yet to get confirmation of that. when we're looking, the number of killed in this -- in the

aftermath of these blasts and the gunfire, six people killed. one we know is a policeman. four are attackers. we're 'sassuming the sixth pers is a civilian. we don't know that for sure. it's extraordinary given what's happened with the six or so blasts, and the bombs going off in star bucks that the casual casualties are that low. >> we'll work on confirming the details and be back with more on the breaking news on cnn. plaque psoriasis...

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news room. we want to welcome our viewers in the states and those of you watching from around the world. i'm errol barnett. >> and i'm rosemary church. we're following breaking news in jakarta, indonesia. police have shot and killed four suspected militants who carried out attacks in jakarta. police say they are working to secure that area. these attacks happened in the last few hours. there's been no claim of responsibility so far. indonesia has been on high alert in recent weeks. police and the military have been going after the east indonesian group that has pledged support for isis. >> let's get a bit more clarity on exactly what happened there today. jeremy do jeremy douglas joins us on the phone. he's speaking to us as a witness. the u.n. office close to where this took place. things are calmer now, thankfully, but they were so

much more frightening for you over the past few hours. when did you know something was unfolding outside today? >> i was pulling into the u.n. building. i was behind it, thankfully, coming back, and we got a phone call from our security saying that something happened in front of the building. a suspected bomb had gone off. we weren't quite sure what was going on. we then pulled up to the front and got out of the car to go in, and suddenly a bomb went off, a fairly sizable one, pretty close by, just around the corner, i guess. at this point we realized we were in a bit of a problem here. we rushed into the building. about a couple minutes later, that's where we tried to get in an elevator to go up to our office on the tenth floor. a third bomb went off, and then gosh, this was really bad. we got up to the office and heard a fourth and fifth and

sixth bomb, and then we heard an exchange of small arms fire in front of the building. >> we are looking at footage from outside, jeremy, of a few of those blasts. you see an explosion. this is in an open area next to the street. you see what appears to be a puff of smoke. at this point after you heard the explosions, how quickly was it until you heard the exchange of gunfire? >> it would have been a few minutes. i'd want to say about five minutes, give or take. so there was initial explosions, i'm guessing a gap of a couple minutes, and then there's one then another, then another. a couple in rapid succession, and then the exchange of gunfire, and then we understand that -- and then the police swept in. actually, there were very quick on the scene. good for them. but the militants seemed to be

holed up in buildings nearby. >> and we are now looking at some of that footage from the police as police rushed out there to make sure everyone was safe, make sure they had identified all the attackers. we're now told by police that four of the suspects were killed in that exchange of gunfire. our producer outside says the scene is much calmer now. have you received the all clear from police or are you still hunk eered down? >> we're waiting for clearance to leave the building. we're about to go into a security briefing to find out what happened and the status of the u.n. staff, and then we're going to hopefully get a clearance to leave late this afternoon. the area is pure secure at this point. >> it appears secure. you're telling us it seems calm and quiet outside. as we think about who would have been behind this, we know the government has been aiming for the most wanted terror leader.

have you noticed, considering you work in a u.n. building, in a busy area, a change of posturing at all leading up this this or heightened security? >> the u.n. has itself, arranged for enhanced security, and, actually, we want to thank the indonesians. through their recent raising of alerts, they've been providing extra security which is great. we thank them for that. to say who is behind it, there's no claim of responsibility. we're waiting to hear who does. clearly, there's an issue in this region, both indonesia, some of the neighboring countries in the sense that there's been hundreds that have gone to syria to fight with isis. we're worried that some of them are coming back. in fact, that's why i'm here is to talk to the government about the strategy. i've flown in to talk to them about strategy. we know there are a lot of

sympathizers active in the country. >> is it your belief they need to change their anti-terrorism methods? >> they need to come up to what's known as the security council foreign fighters, mandate, 2178, basically to stop the recruiting, and to be able to prosecute those that have committed crimes overseas, for example, in syria. it's not just here. it's in other countries in the region where the counterterrorism systems weren't built for the concept of foreign fighters. they were built basically to target domestic terrorism. now they have guys around the world to a caliphate. we're talking to the indonesians about what we can do to improve their system and strategies. >> translator: -- >> this may be indication of a change. it may not be a direct isis

link. the country itself certainly has its own home grown groups to worry about. germany dougla-- jeremy douglask you for walking us through a day people will remember for a while. stay safe. we appreciate you speaking with us. we'll contact you in the hours ahead if necessary. thank you. >> all right. we do want to go back to kathy. she is there in the center of jakarta and joins us live. kathy, let's just go over what we know at this point. we understood that this was at an end. i am seeing some tweets coming from followers who live in jakarta suggesting that there has been more gunfire in the last couple of minutes. can you clarify if authorities are telling you this has come to an end? >> reporter: well, we have a colleague down there at the skyline building still watching

the developments there. he tells us that there's no clear signal or clear information from police authorities that the operation is over. but the situation has dramatically changed here from when i was there. it was very tense earlier and heavily secured. i think what is happening now is that special forces, the police are still inside trying to secure the area. we know for a fact now that four suspects have been killed, and the bodies of the four suspects were brought by ambulance to a police station. we know that the police have not totally stopped operations. they're making sure that the area is secure, and as you heard earlier, with down of the eyewitnesss, some people are still in their offices on lock down, and not being allowed to leave the area until it's secure. this area, we're a few hundred meters down the road, and it's still off limits to many people.

>> and describe to us the scene around you. what doare you seeing? what sort of activity is there as far as police and security? >> there's a lot of comings and goings here. we saw the four ambulances that came to pick up the bodies. we confirmed they were brought in to bring the bodies of the sspects. just police officials and their cars going in and out. you see a few trucks behind me as well. and from our colleague who is down there near the skyline buildings, he said that they believe that bomb squads are still scouring the area, making sure there's no more explosives, and they've had to run away from the building a couple of times just because they suspected they were going to detonate some explosives. again, it's just showing you how fluid the situation here is, and how tense. people still are in jakarta, so shocked by what happened here.

a gunfight. bombs. explosions happening at the center of town. and we know also, we're getting a clearer picture as well. we spoke to an eyewitness who saw two men, apparently, approach a police earlier, and then the explosions happened. apparently the first explosion happened in the starbucks cafe across the street from the police post, and then the grenades and then the gunfight. >> that's what we're hearing, the targets, starbucks, the police station, a shopping center. four suspects doing all of that. very coordinated, it appears, but the police moved fast to bring it to a quick end. what's astonishing here considering what's happened is there are few casualties when you eliminate the suspects involved. >> reporter: that's right, rosemary. fortunately the numbers are very

low. although, there were some concerns earlier there may be more victims in the cafe when it happened. we haven't heard any more information about that yet. we have to point out that the counterterrorism authorities here, anti-terrorism police, e even the police force in general, they're highly trained simply because indonesia has been a target of many attacks in the past. you have bigger ones that had more casualties here. and they've got a lot of training from their counterparts from australia and the united states. and they're very highly trained. the one aspect of the counterterrorism efforts here that's been commended here. what authorities said that they were focusing more was a soft approach, and trying to stop the radicalization of many indonesian muslims who may be attracted to the teachings of

the isis, for example, and trying to lure them in to joining their caliphate in syria. a few hundreds have gone there so far. the concern now is what, if any indonesians, have come back here from syria, came back here more determined or more capable of launching attacks in indonesia. >> kathy, let's talk about that. there has been no claim of responsibility at this point, at least. it is fairly early. but we know that there has been heightened alert there in jakarta and across indonesia for fears of this east indonesia. talk to us about that group. how many people are involved. the leader, what sort of threat they pose, and what sort of attacks they have carried out in the past. >> reporter: well, you know, we spoke to several terror analysts here and even police authorities

who say the indonesia's most wanted terrorist, it's a small group, a very radicalized group that set up base. it shows the side of sectarian conflicts in the late 1990s, early 2000s. many say that was probably one of the best places to set up camp, because they would have been able to recruit more people. a lot of supporters of this group also come from the island of chava in central chava and best chava. there's pockets of radical minority groups based across indonesia. again, the consensus was the threat of a major attack was quite low at this point, because many of the leaders, well-trained veterans from the afghan war, for example, who were able to build the bombs in

bali and in jakarta when they bombed hotels here, they were all gone, and that they had smaller groups that were not as capable of launching attacks. that might have changed, and i'm sure authorities will be looking at that. >> it is a very concerning situation there. cnn's kathy joining us from central jakarta where the six blasts took place. at this point we understand six people killed, four of them suspects. one of them a police officer, and kathy, do stay nearby. we want to come back to you a little later. >> kathy also mentioning there one of those explosions taking place outside of a starbucks cafe. of course, you can imagine that would be a popular place where people would be at midday at a busy intersection. we have a statement from starbucks. it begins by saying we're deeply saddened by the senseless acts that took place. they also detail what they know. we can show you a map of i think

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>> here is the latest information on the breaking news coming to us out of indonesia. cnn indonesia reports that police have killed four people suspected in a series of gun and bomb attacks in the capital. this in the past few hours. it is still unclear exactly if any civilians were killed. there is some more information coming in on that. police also said earlier one policeman was killed. all of this still early in the

breaking situation. it's still fluid and we're still working to get you more details. >> we just got this detail from cnn indonesia saying the six people killed in this incident, we know four of them were the suspects. one of them was a foreigner, and, of course, the other was a police officer. and we don't know the nationality at this point of that foreigner killed. we also understand that a number of foreigners were injured in this. again, we don't know the nationalities, but we'll stay on top of this. just repeating, six people in all were killed in the six blasts and the gunfire that ensued. six people, including one foreigner. we know a policeman. that was confirmed. a policeman was killed, and we know too, that what they're saying, heavily injured foreigner in this incident.

we'll continue to try to clarify that. no one has claimed responsibility. the country has been on high alert over threats of a terror group linked to isis. the country's president calls it an act of terror but says people should not be afraid. i want to leave this story for a moment and cover another big story that we brought you 24 hours ago. ten american sailors are released from iranian detention. there are concerns about the circumstances that led to their freedom. >> that's right. you remember the sailors were captured tuesday after their boats entered iranian waters in the persian gulf. well, iranian television aired this. video of a sailor it identified as the commander, apologizing for the incident. the pentagon said the video appeared authentic but noted the crew's circumstances at the time were unknown. >> it was a mistake.

that was our fault. and we apologize for our mistake. the it was a misunderstanding. we did not mean to go into iranian territorial water. >> the iranian behavior was fantastic. we thank you for your hospitality and your assistance. >> cnn military analyst joining us now to talk more about this. thank you so much for being with us. there are, of course, questions about the circumstances leading to the release of the ten u.s. sailors, and, of course, the humiliating shots of them on their knees at gunpoint. such provocative pictures sent out on iranian media. what did you make of those images? and then that apology that we just aired from the commander? >> well, the images are being broadcast all over iranian tv and social media. they've mounted a huge propaganda campaign. one of them i just saw a few hours ago, quite agreerks.

it has pictures from the prison, mistreatment of iraqi prisoners, in juxtaposition with the treatment of the american citizens. they're drawing distinction. the it's disturbing and very upsetting to military people to see our brothers in arms and sisters in arms treated that way. there was no reason to humiliate them that way or put them at gunpoint on their knees, hands behind their knees and then to broadcast it. violations of international law, and the normalcy that we generally expect of other military forces. >> absolutely. but thankfully they were released. but there are also questions about how these sailors ended up in iranian the territorial waters. farsi island, mechanical problems were the reasons given. does that make sense to you? >> it could have been mechanical

problems. my question is why were they out there? these are small patrol boats that are 45 feet long. they're meant to carry 20 people on each boat. they only had ten total for the two. they were transitting from kuwait to bahrain. they should have been along the coast. that was strange, where they were. i have no idea what they were doing out there. somebody in the may navy will h to take responsibility. you showed a clip of a lieutenant apologizing. you know, i'm not going to second guess a navy officer in that circumstance saying what he had to say to guarantee the safety of his crew. i think we need to find out what kind of situation he was in before we second guess him. >> certainly understand. and, of course, it will be interesting to see if we do hear some sort of explanation from the u.s. navy as to why these ten sailors were so close to

farsi, a sensitive part of the world. many thanks to, rick, for joining us and explaining some of this to us. we appreciate it. >> good to be with you. a man has been arrested in connection with a death of an american woman in italy. the italian officials have not announced the arrest, and cnn has not independently confirmed it. >> 35-year-old ashley olsen was found dead on saturday. they report she was apparently strangled with a rope or cord. investigators are reportedly looking into the possibility she may have been killed during a sex game. >> we are continuing to track breaking news out of jakarta. so far we have the confirmation, six people killed. that includes the four suspects, possibly one police officer and possibly one foreigner as well. we'll continue to track this and have more for you coming up.

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welcome our viewers here in the states and those of you watching from all around the world. we continue to follow breaking news this hour out of indonesia. i'm errol barnett. >> i'm rosemary church. we want to thank you for joining us. this is "cnn newsroom." >> we want to begin with new information on the terror attack as the country's president calls it, in jakarta. cnn indonesia reports that six people were killed in thursday's terror attack there. that information coming from the national police. also cnn indonesia says police shot and killed four attackers. separate to the six people we now know who were killed, those four attackers, they believe carried out the series of gun and bomb attacks. >> this is a fluid situation, of course, as we report this, that the number of casualties has changed. and this could very well change

as we continue bringing you this breaking news. police say they are now working to secure the area. these attack happened in the last few hours. this has been no claim of responsibility so far, but indonesia has been on high alert in recent weeks. police and the military have been going to have an east indonesian group that pledged allegiance to isis. it appears one of the targets was a starbucks coffee shop. >> you can see some of the blasts in that footage here. here is a statement starbucks released. one customer sustained injuries and was treated on the scene. our employees are all confirmed to be safe. this store and all other starbucks stores in jakarta will remain closed out of an abundance of caution until further notice.

>> kathy joining us with more on the story. as we've just been reporting, we understand six people, including one foreigner, have been killed, and in addition to the four suspects who were killed. and then there are ten people who have been injured and one of them is a foreigner as well. at this point, we don't know the nationalities. talk to us about what more you're hearing from authorities there in jakarta. >> reporter: well, rosemary, we know that at least six, maybe even seven people killed. one of them has not been identified, and maybe that's why the number six is being reported so far. but we do know that civilians have been killed, and the gun battle and explosions that happened earlier today in jakarta. we assume the victims were near or in the starbucks coffee shop that was first targeted. eyewitnesss say the first explosion did happen in

starbucks, and then the attack on the police outpost happened afterwards, the gunfight, and then one armed suspect fleeing the scene from what police have been saying so far, four suspects were killed. their bodies were brought to the police hospital. for now, the situation here has calmed down a bit, but we know that police forces are still in the area trying to secure it. people are not allowed to go inside the building or near the starbucks cafe. they're able to move around that building. people are milling about, trying to see what's happened here. but rosemary, there is a city on edge now. after this attack, people didn't expect this to happen. >> totally understand that. but police did move very quickly. do clarify for us, as well, you say they're trying to secure the area. does that mean there's still a

threat? >> reporter: for now, there no clear indication that the police have cleared out the area. they are still searching from our colleague who is down there right now, he said that there were some police forces there. at one point, they had to run away thinking they were going to detonate an explosive. perhaps there's a fear that there may be explosives that have been left around after the attacks. but certainly, they're trying to secure the area. we're a few hundred meters away from the starbucks cafe, and we're not allows to go anywhere near that from where we are. >> at what point can we expect to hear more about the victims? >> reporter: well, i think they've identified at least two of the civilians, and one of them is a foreign national. from what we've seen so far, they're still to identify a third civilian as well.

the numbers may rise, as you said, because this information came hours before the attack. we didn't know, for example, that the starbucks was the first target, first explosion happened there. so the numbers may rise. but hopefully not as high as people would think. but this is a -- indonesia is not a stranger to those attacks. we've seen the a tothotel bombe here twice, and the embassy. those attacks are on the top of people's minds here, and the fear and threat of terror is something that people take seriously in indonesia. >> they do. and, of course, you know, i just mentioned how quickly the police moved on this. talk to us about the links to counterterrorism and the work that he's done in jakarta and beyond across indonesia to really move fast when situations like this occur.

>> indonesia has an elite counterterrorism force. they were formed shortly after the first major attacks here in bali. they're highly trained not just in terms of responding to attacks like this but also in trying to prevent any attacks. they've been in pursuit of hundreds of terror suspects in the last decade or so, and they have a high rate of convictions. a lot of these terror suspects were put to jail. a lot of them are still in prison. that's also not the concern here in indonesia. many of these radical terrorists are in the prison system and are able to communicate with other prisoners. even through their supporters outside of the prison system, and that is one of the approaches that the government has taken is to make sure that

radicalization does not spread. it's still a minority of groups who espouse to launch terror attacks in indonesia. >> all right. cnn's kathy joining us there from central jakarta and clarifying, six civilians killed, perhaps seven, and these numbers may rise. at this point, we know one of them is a foreigner. we do not know the nationality of that particular victim. thank you so much, kathy, for joining us. we'll return to you very soon. and at this moment, it's just past 3:00 p.m. there in jakarta. the it's the afternoon. this unfolded in the past three or four hours. this attack taking place in the middle of the day in a busy part of the city. for people there, it was extremely frightening. earlier i spoke with jeremy dougl douglas whose with the u.n. office. he witnessed the attack and earlier told me what he saw.

listen. >> i was actually pulling into the u.n. building. i was behind it, thankfully, coming in from the back, and we got a phone call from our security saying that something had happened in front of the building. they suspected a bomb had gone off. we weren't quite sure what was going on, but we pulled up to the front of the building and got out of the car to go in and suddenly a bomb went off, sizable, close by, just around the corner, i guess. at that point, we realized we're in a bit of a problem here. so we rushed into the building. a couple minutes later, that's where we got in an elevator to go up to our office on the tenth floor. a third bomb went off, and then this is really bad. we got up to the office, and then we heard a fourth, fifth, and sixth bomb, and then we heard exchange the small arms fire in front of the building.

>> we are looking at footage from outside, jeremy of a few of the blasts. you see an explosion. this is in an open area next to the street. you see what appears to be a puff of smoke. after that point after you heard the explosions, how quickly was it until you heard the exchange of gunfire? >> it would have been a few minutes. i'd want to say about five minutes, give or take. so there was initial explosions. i'm guessing a gap of a couple minutes, and then there's one and then another and then another. a couple in rapid succession, and then the exchange of gunfire, and then the police swept in. actually, they were very quick on the scene. good for militants seemed to be holed up in building.

>> we're looking at footage as police rushed out to make sure everyone was safe, make sure they identified all the attackers. we're now told by police that four of the suspects were killed in that exchange of gunfire. our producer outside says the scene is much calmer now. have you received the all clear from police or are you still hunkered down? >> we're still locked down. we're waiting for the clearance to leave the building. we're about to go into a security briefing to find out exactly what happened and the status of the u.n. staff, and then we're going to hopefully get clearance to leave this afternoon. the area is secure at this point. >> jeremy douglas speaking with me earlier. incredibly frightening. when we spoeke with us, they wee still on a lock down. as our producer told us, as far as they know, this is still a dangerous situation. >> they're still trying to secure the area.

indonesia is no stranger to terror attacks. on july 17th back in 2009 at least two presumed suicide bombers killed seven peel and wounded more than 50 others at a hotel. >> police say a third bomb was found. another hotel was safely dif used on october 1st, 2005. explosions on bali killed at least 26 people and wounded more than 100 people there. >> the bombs went off at resort spots. 202 people were also killed on october 12th, 2002, at two nightclubs catering to tourists. this incident with at least six people, six civilians killed.

those numbers could change. four suspects also killed. >> stay with cnn for much more of our live breaking coverage of the terror attacks.

>> we continue to follow break news out of jakarta, indonesia. cnn indonesia reports six people including a foreigner were killed in the terror attack in the capital. the information coming to us from the national police. also cnn indonesia says police shot and killed four attackers who carried out the bomb and gun attacks. >> police say they are working to secure that area. these attacks happened in the last few hours. there has been no claim of responsibility so far. indonesia has been on high alert. police and the military have been going of a group which has pledged support for isis. >> earlier we spoke with one who heard explosions from his building. listen. >> we are working here at the plaza. that's the central office in central jakarta, and just 500

meters away from our office. we're on level 20. we can see, really, a lot of the city. and 500 meters away, we just saw, like, a really huge smoke and, like, sounded like an explosion, and we were wondering what it is. at first we thought it's like from the construction side which is next to our building. it turns out it was on the street near a starbucks coffee, or something like that, or police station. and then there was another explosion, another explosion. mostly like, five or six explosions or gunshots, which was really weird, and we realized, okay, there's something going on. and it was really strange. our building is now completely locked down. we can't enter. we can't leave the building, and -- but so far everything is safe here. we just have to -- it probably will take a few hours, i guess. i don't know what happened. nobody knows here what's going on. >> a scary situation there for

so many people. we are aggressively monitoring the scene there. we're in contact with police. we are gathering new information for you. as soon as we have that into cnn and have it confirmed, we'll bring it to you. for the moment, we'll bring you other stories. >> a second aide convoy is on its way to three besieged areas of syria. trucks with flour, medicine, and clothes are on their way. >> shipments arrived monday. aid workers were reduced to tears when they saw the conditions. they requested the evacuation of 400 residents. they say they'll be treated on site by doctors and nutritionists within that convoy. no end in sight to the global financial markets.

falling oil prices are fueling concerns. >> investors have been worrying about china's economy and the government's moves to control the value. >> u.s. markets are officially in correction the territory. all three major new york indices are down 10% or more from their recent highs. on wednesday the dow fell 364 points to close the 16. the nasdaq was down. the. >> the trading day ended in the asia pacific region with a pretty surprising result. japan's nikkei was the biggest loser, down more than 2.5%. the shanghai composite finished up about 2%. hong kong ended the day down more than half a percent there.

and australia's index closed down 1.5%. >> we have team coverage for you with knee sha standing by in london. first, let's begin with the asia pacific editor live for us in hong kong. the chinese government through out the circuit breakers after they proved to make things worse during multiple closures due to stock dives last week. how can we explain the fluctuations and the shang lie composite ended up? >> i think the first thing is the fluctuations are less severe than they were when the sirk ci breakers were in. they're allowed to find the more natural level. there's little natural movement

going on. you can't give one clear reason as to why shanghai finished up today. it was down at the open. in fact it was down below the summer when it crashed in the summer in fact it was down below those low levels earlier today, and then it came back. there could be government buying. we don't know. it remains a very volatile market. it could easily lose those gains in the next 24 hours and then some. generally here in asia, the it was a much less down day. the nikkei was down more than 4% at one stage. there has been a little bit of stability returning. take a look at the context in this year so far. look at the numbers of the markets around asia. so far this year, you'll see the sort of damage that's happened here. the nikkei down nearly 10%. shanghai down 15.

the australian market down 7.5%. this is in two weeks. a lot of it is being led by a a asia. if you strip out oil, it's the china story that worries investors deeply. people at this stage just don't know the extent of the slow down there, and while these sort of concerns continue and while we continue to get the numbers out, which don't look good from china, it's likely we're going to see this sort of volatility, at least here in asia continue. >> this could be the new normal. andrew stevens live for us in hong kong. andrew, thanks. and trading is just getting underway this hour in europe's financial markets. taking a look now at the early numbers. you can see there, all the arrows in negative territory.

london's ftse 100 down. germany's market lost more than 1.5%. and similar losses there in paris and in zurich. let's head to london with nina is watching the markets. you know, we've seen this before. whatever happens there in asia is problematic, a bit of a mixed bag there today. certainly those arrows all down across the european markets in the what's going on here? >> you can see the map behind me illustrates it, all the regions and major stock markets across the region in the red today. on the one hand you're right. it's asia and concerns in growth in china. also, the it's the correction that we saw in the united states overnight as well. rec remember, the markets here are more closely linked to the market in the u.s. let's talk about the oil price.

andrew is right. remember there's a number of very big listed stock companies on things like the f ttse 100. we know firms like bp have had to cut jobs because of the falling price of oil. let's look at it, falling again. still hovering above $30 on the barrel. a lot of nervousness overnight when it hovered below $30 on the barrel. now analysts calling the bottom of the barrel, major investment banks coming out and have people worried. you were mentioned before in your introduction to andrew that the united states markets have gotten off to their worse start ever, especially for the dow

jones industrial average. what we've seen collectly is about $1.3 trillion wiped off the stocks so far. if we look at the year to date performance of these stocks, one is down in excess of 5% year to date. london fste 100 fairing better. the biggie is the xe the tra dax down 7.3. >> we know you'll keep an eye on the markets throughout the day. thank you, nina. now, to another big story we've been following for you. ten u.s. sailors are free from iranian detention. the obama administration characterized their release as a diplomatic victory. >> jim sciutto has some details. >> reporter: sailors on their

knees, their hands up and behind their heads. this is the moment ten americans were detained by guards after mistakenly entering iranian waters. >> the patrol boat came out when we were having engine issues, and had weapons drawn, so we tried to talk to them until more boats came out and took us in. >> reporter: they spent the night in custody, fed and given blankets before they were freed early this morning. u.s. officials made clear that secretary kerry did not apologize for the incident. but iranian state tv aired video of what appeared to be an apology by the crew. >> the it was a mistake. we apologize for our mistake. >> reporter: tonight it remains unclear if it was made under drez. iranian forces released them. the sailors departed on the same command boats they'd been captured on and headed to the

naval missile cruiser. the sailors were transferred and flown to shore. secretary kerry who called his iranian counterpart five times on tuesday credited the new diplomatic ties between the two countries for the resolution of a potentially tense standoff. >> i think we can all imagine how a similar situation might have played out three or four years ago. in fact, this kind of issue was able to be peacefully resolved and officially resolved, and that is a testament to the critical role that diplomacy plays in keeping our country safe. >> reporter: some are questioning why u.s. sailors found themselves in this situation in the first place. >> my concern is the u.s. navy professional incompetence put them in harm's way without a clear exit plan. >> reporter: i've spoken to u.s. officials.

they have no confirmation the sailors were taken at gunpoint. the sailors are going to be fully debriefed on thursday in the region that is one of many questions they need to get answered. jim sciutto, cnn, washington. we have also been following breaking news from indonesia, where jakarta came under bombing attacks. we'll take you there after this short break. i'm only in my 60's. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement insurance plans,

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a warm welcome back to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. i'm rosemary church. >> i'm errol barnett.

let's update you on our top stories right now. police say six people, including one foreigner, were killed in a series of gun and bomb attacks in jakarta indonesia. cnn indonesia says police shot and killed four attackers to carried out the attacks over the past few hours. at this point there's been no claim of responsibility. we will have a live report for you coming up. >> trading has been underway for about 30 minutes in europe's financial markets. the arrows in negative territory. similar loss in germany, and in zurich, and you can see paris, too, lost 1.6%. falling oil prices sent u.s. markets plunging. the dow fell 364 points wednesday to close at 16,150. the nasdaq and s&p were also sharply lower. >> there are at least three

multimillionaires in the u.s. the winning combination of the roughly $1.46 billion power ballot ballot lottery were picked. >> all right. back to our breaking news. the terror attacks in jakarta indonesia, the cnn producer, kathy joins us live. kathy, do we have any confirmation that the cause for concern is over yet, and if not, what is the current situation there? >> reporter: well, errol, the chief security minister just spoke to reporters at the site of the explosion. and he confirmed that police authorities have killed five suspects. the two civilians were also killed in the attacks.

he said there was still a man hunt on for other terrorist suspects. he didn't give any details on who these suspects are, where they may be. but we see, though, on this main thoroughfare leading down to the building, they've just opened it to traffic, and we're seeing activities coming back to normal here. soon cars and motor bikes will be allowed down this road. there's some indication that the situation has been secured. and that people are now allowed near the building. but, again, as i said, there is a man hunt on for other suspects. there was no indication or no details about that man hunt. he also did say that there were five explosions during that attack, and there was a gub fight. one of the explosions may have happened in the starbucks cafe. but he wouldn't say what kind of explosives were used.

although, he did say that they were going to wait for laboratory results, that it might have been low explosive devices used in the attacks. >> we know from starbucks who have closed their stores, that one person was injured as a result of that explosion. kathy you're telling us the chief security minister saying five suspects killed. no civilians died throughout all of this. and there is one suspect still at large. did the officials mention who they believe could be behind this or who the prime suspects are? >> reporter: no. he wouldn't say. there were a lot of questions about any groups who might have had links to isis or pledged any support to isis. he couldn't say for sure who was behind the attacks, but, of course, he did say that they

were looking into all these links and possibilities, and that there was a man hunt on. we know that there was an ongoing operation, a joint police and police military operation against a group that pledged support to isis. operations were across chava and other parts. and you're talking about sotuso. he claimed allegiance with isis. the president called this a terror attack before officials have confirmed who they believe to be behind it. with traffic opening up behind you now, does it appear as far as evidence on the streets, you mentioned that the suspect's bodies were removed and taken to hospitals. has everything returned to normal, i guess, where you are, or are they still collecting

evidence? >> reporter: the police forces are still inside the building, for sure. they're securing that area, and they're not allowing anyone in that building so far. although, security minister also said in a 3:00 p.m. local time that the people who have been in their offices would be allowed out. that area will be open again to the public. of course, i'm, you know, i'm sure people will be curious to see what happened here. but this is a city on the edge right now, and i'm sure many would stay put at home if they can. >> that's understanding. kathy, who while this was unfolding rushed out to the scene and was able to get as close as she is now. five suspects killed, two civilians dying and one suspect still on the loose. it's just past 3:37 in the afternoon there. thank you, kathy.

let's go to a former australian national security operative and counterterrorism expert. thank you for talking with us. as we just learned from our cnn producer there, we understand that police have killed five suspects now, and this man hunt continues. what is extraordinary here in the aftermath of these six blasts and the gunfire is how quickly the security forces, the police, moved on this. talk to us about the counterterrorism expertise there in indonesia, particularly in jakarta. >> well, i think you've got to look at the previous attacks in indonesia, and of course, the famous bali bombings where 202 people were killed. there's been a range of attacks in indonesia, and international

assistance to upscale the indonesian national police as well as the well-known counterterrorism force. not only have police been trained by the australians and americans and the uk, but also there's been advancements in intelligence cooperation and intention sharing between countries. there's been a lot of effort to work with indonesians. i was involved with a lot of the counterterrorism training, and so i have full confidence that the indonesian authorities will apprehend those that may still be at large. what does surprise me is they were caught my surprise. when you have more than one attacker and there's a level of organization, obviously information becomes available to the police and the authorities that helps prevent such attacks. so what we are seeing around the world, we're being caught off

guard and surprised by low level small scale attacks, and this may appear more significant, but still, it's a fairly a type of attack with firearms and hand grenades. >> but it was well coordinated, though, wasn't it? >> absolutely. >> when you're talking about the shop and the police station and the shopping mall, and as you said, there was an element of surprise. but the security services had been on high alert because of their fears, this link with someone that has links with isis. you're saying that they would have moved faster than what they did, then? >> i don't want to be critical. it's always easier in hindsight. it does surprise me when there's a level organization that things are not detected. as you said, there was warning, some weeks ago, and i even say months ago, that they were

likely to experience an attack. why i'm surprised is that some of the perpetrators weren't detected. the it's a difficult situation when -- i saw the numbers around 150 to 200 that have crossed to syria and iraq. because the borders in indonesia and throughout parts of southeast asia are pore us, unlike the united states or australia, it's easy for people to slip out and slip back in. i'll be interested to see where these perpetrators have come from. if it's locally developed or from somewhere else, or whether it's people that returned back from fighting overseas. >> and at this point, there has been no claim of responsibility. we don't know who is involved, exactly. but this seems to be the new norm, doesn't it, across the globe, and perhaps things can be learned from this. many thanks to clark jones

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all right. let's bring you the latest information on the breaking news out of indonesia. at least two people killed in a series of bomb and gun attacks in the city's center. the chief security minister says police have killed five of the attackers. and that a man hunt is underway for any suspects still on the loose. again, all of this is very fluid. it all just unfolded in the past few hours. we're updating these numbers for you as we get them. >> the numbers could change in the coming hours. no one has claimed responsibility, but the country has been on high alert over threats from a terror group linked to isis. the president of the country calls the acts an act of terror.

a man has been arrested in connection with with the death of an american woman in italy according to italian media. italian officials have not announced the arrest, and cnn has not independently confirmed it. you're seeing pictures of 35-year-old ash lee olson who was found dead in her apartment. they report she was strangled with a korcord or a rope. their reportedly looking into the idea that she may have been killed during a sex game. we are joined from rome with more on this developing story. bobby, what do we know about this new potential suspect, and if the victim's boyfriend is completely in the clear yet? >> reporter: well, in about have a minutes here local time, we'll have an announcement from the office that's going to back up the reports by the media that a

man in his 20s was arrested overnight. this man has been reported, one known to the authorities were various drug offenses and may have been at the club where ashley was last seep seen before she disappeared. we don't have the time of death. the last she was seen was 3:00 in the morning on friday. she was bound saturday. if there's an arrest, we can assume the boyfriend's alibi, as we understood, does, in fact, hold up. he has always been questioned. he has neff been na-- never bee. we'll have more in 15 minutes. >> bobby, live for us in rome. thank you. to a different story. it's the largest lottery jackpot in history. and we know of at least three winners who will split it. more on the power ball drawing.

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the united states. the winning numbers match at least three tickets sold in florida, tennessee, and california. >> in california you're seeing people celebrating at the convenience store that sold a winning ticket. in addition to the big jackpot, at least 12 other the tickets in california matched five numbers making them $1 million winners. here is the announcement being made. those numbers, by the way, for those of you wondering, 8, 27, 34, 4, 19, and the power ball, 10. >> just check your tickets again, and our sara sidner joins us from california. i'm guessing you've checked your tickets and you didn't win. but you do get to talk with us which is fabulous. it looks really quiet behind you. there was great celebration when they discovered that one of the winning tickets came from there.

>> reporter: you know, we were wondering what was going on. we've never seen anything like this. all of a sudden this store, this 7/11 which did sell the winning ticket in california for that $1.5 billion winning jackpot, all of a sudden people started showing up from all over the place here, and they were cheering and going into the store. there were tons of people just coming in and out of the store. they were cheering for the store owner who was here. he will get $1 million just for selling the winning ticket. he said he hasn't checked his own tickets yet. we had a little bit of a conversation with him, because he's a winner too. what do you think about the crowd that just showed up here? >> well, i just love them, and they love me. >> reporter: what does selling the winning ticket mean for you and your store? >> it's feeling really, really

good. and whoever the lucky person come here, thanks for that person. >> reporter: he moves to america more than two decades ago to have a better life. he now owns several of these 7/11s. it's charming and happy. they were cheering together. we're still not sure, rosemary and errol, who is winner is. do you know they have six months before they have to come forward to claim the ticket? we might be waiting a while. >> it could be. and the store owner, he has a lot of new friends now. but that will be interesting to see. of course, then they have to make the choice if they're going to take the whole amount or are they going to get paid over the rest of their life, really. that's a big decision. and a lot of it goes to the tax man, doesn't it? >> that's right. it depends on what state you're

in. california does have a state tax as well. florida doesn't, though. they'll be paying a little bit less in taxes. but it is interesting. if you look at whether to take the lump sum or whether you should take it over the next 20 to 30 years, i don't think it's really going to matter, though, when you're talking about 1 -- $1.5 billion. i think you'll be happy. >> it was shared around a little bit. i was worried that one person was going to win it all, and that just isn't fair at all, is it? sara sidner joining us from a happy store owner's facilities. we will wait and see when the winners come forward. thank you, sara. we appreciate it. you can go to bed now. >> before we go this hour, we want to update you on the explosions in indonesia cease capital. indonesia's president said it was an act of terror, but he

urged the country not to surrender to fear. listen. >> translator: we condemn these attacks that have disturbed the peace of society, and we want to spread this message to the notion and society. i ordered authorities to catch those involved in this. we should not be frightened by what's happened with this attack. we should say calm. everything will be under control. >> that is important to stay calm. as far as you know, the latest information, though, five suspects were killed. there may be another suspect on the loose. so still a very fluid situation, and we'll have more on all of that at the top of the hour. >> that man hunt does continue. we'll keep following that. thank you for watching us. >> remember to connect with us on twitter any time. it's great to hear from you. early start is next for those of you in the states. >> for others, stay tuned for "cnn newsroom." have a great day.

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this is cnn breaking news. >> the breaking news, a deadly terror attack. apparently targeting westerners. a series of explosions that a gun battle rocking gentlemjakar. welcome to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. it is thursday, january 14th. let's begin with the breaking news. a series of coordinated gun and bomb attacks in the heart of the indonesia capital of jakarta overnight. at least seven people dead. offis