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i always walk away having learned something. that's just what happens with a mentor. and there isn't a day that goes by that i don't think about the doors he opened for me and for so many others. tomorrow morning on "new day." chris cuomo will reveal the person who changed his life and you'll see similar stories on our special sunday night at 8:00 p.m. eastern. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. next, breaking news, a massive blizzard closing in. 75 million in its path. thousands of flights canceled. we have the latest for you tonight. plus, piling on, more republican leaders say they would go with donald trump over ted cruz. and 2 corinthians versus second corinthians. the man trump blames for his number. let's go "outfront."
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good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, we begin with breaking news. monday store storm. the first major blizzard of the winter with record-breaking snowfall, treacherous ice, 60-mile-an-hour winds, the possibility of tornadoes. all of this bearing down on 75 million americans from oklahoma to the mid-atlantic, all the way up the east coast. tonight, north carolina, virginia, maryland, pennsylvania as well as washington, d.c., all declaring states of emergency. deadly winter weather already claiming three lives. president obama's helicopter was grounded because the snow was too heavy last night, forcing his motorcade, that you see here, to slip and slide through the icy street of washington just to get back to the white house last night. you can see that ride. tonight, over 2,000 flights are already canceled. amtrak has been cutting service on its heavily traveled northeast corridor and all of this is coming in preparation for much worse weather to come. we are covering all angles of this massive storm and begin
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with our meteorologist chad myers who is here with me. chad, what is the forecast? it's big and it's strong. >> if i'm in new york, it's big and it's strong. you bring me up here and something bad is happening. that's why they say, why don't you ever talk about san diego? because when i talk about your town, something bad is about to happen and we have a massive winter storm here. 75 million people in the way. winter storm warnings, ice storm warnings. it's going to be a blizzard couple of days here for many, many people. something else, erin, we're going to notice. someone is going to be surprised. i know these models have been acting perfectly for days and days and days. something is going to happen that we didn't expect. we're going to look at it on tuesday and say, wow, didn't see this one coming. we have all of these computer weather models and they are basically -- that's our window to the world of what we think is coming up. take a look at the american model. they've been doing a fantastic job, if it all comes true, because it's been looking the same now for days and days. we'll go now to the european
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model. it looks very similar. a slightly different bulls-eye but i've kept that circle different but very similar. we're getting towards our closer-in typically more accurately models. notice this. new york city, a little more snow up there. now you're talking about 8 to 10 inches there. a little less around d.c. and now we take a look at our scary model because all of a sudden this local, typically active model when it comes to a short term saying big snow, that's almost two feet of snow. still, somewhere in the cat skills. that's not the forecast but it's certainly possible here across some of these areas of new york, pennsylvania, d.c. something else you're going to notice is almost like a tornado where one side of the street gets hit and the other side doesn't, this is going to be a storm where you may see 36
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inches in gaithersburg, maryland, and in annapolis or over the bay bridge in d.c., you may get 6 or 8. it's going to be a fine line between bad and not so bad. richmond, virginia, probably 20 inches or so around there. then we talk about the wind, waves, storm surge. there will be coastal erosion, flooding. and then all of a sudden, and i've put this together, 24 inches of snow with 60-mile-per-hour wind gusts, you get 4 inches of snow in one spot and the rest in the back because of the drift. the good news is, it's a saturday. you can just take a deep breath and hopefully you can stay home because this is the biggest storm of the year. certainly and maybe the biggest storm in many, many years. >> it's pretty incredible. get your sled out. >> i'm ready. that's why i'm here. >> first sled, he's ready to go. it better not be the 2 inch model. i don't know how i would break it to him.
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the threat of the storm is sending shoppers into stores to stock up. they are not just stocking up on food but generators as well. chris frates is "outfront." >> reporter: some are calling this a storm of historic proportions. with some 75 million americans in the storm's path, governors along the east coast path are declaring states of emergency and deploying the national guard. the nation's capital is in the bulls-eye of the storm. heaters, shovels and sleds are flying off the shelves. >> take action now and prepare before the severe weather strikes. make sure you have food and supplies at home. not just to last for the weekend but enough to last up to an
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entire week. >> reporter: in washington, the mayor is already under fire after an inch of snow last night crippled the area making some e some wonder if they are ready up for 30 inches to fall. >> we are very sorry for an adequate response. we should have been out earlier with more resources. >> reporter: as the snow began to stick, untreated roads quickly turned to ice. some drivers were stuck behind the wheel for hours. >> it was pretty rough going home. it took an hour to go four miles. >> reporter: others just abandoned their cars and pedestrians were not spared from the hellish conditions either. president obama's motorcade didn't fair much better either. slipping and sliding on the streets. >> it's a reminder how much the president is going to miss having access to marine one a year from now. >> reporter: now, officials in maryland, virginia, north carolina, pennsylvania and d.c. have all declared a state of emergency. that qualifies them for federal assistance, including the
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national guard, if necessary. and in the city itself, schools will be closed all day tomorrow and the city government will be leaving early. that's all in an effort to keep cars off the road so that they can start to get the roads salted, to treat the roads and avoid a repeat of the disaster that we had yesterday. back to you in that warm, warm studio, erin. >> oh, yes. it's going to be amazing seeing those pictures. that was a little baby storm ahead of this massive storm coming. you heard chris talking about it but now the major airlines have canceled more than 2,000 flights. american airlines is going to be suspending flights up and down the east coast starting tomorrow. rene marsh is "outfront" live at reagan national airport in washington. they are canceling all of these flights. are they trying to get people out ahead of time? how are they actually doing this? >> reporter: they want to but the bottom line is, erin, everyone is not going to get out
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ahead of the storm. there are too many flights affected. here's the reality, though. i'm at reagan national airport, just outside of washington, d.c., and at some point on saturday, airport operations here will come to a complete stop. same situation at dulles airport in virginia here in the washington d.c. area. we have a situation between tomorrow, saturday as well as into sunday where will you see some east coast airports where operations will either be limited or stop completely. so here's the question. if you're flying, what you need to know is, act this hour, we are still seeing flights go in and out. that's the good news. but tomorrow is when things are going to start to get dicey. that's when the problems begin. we've seen that many of the majors have already canceled over 2,000 flights and as the day goes on tomorrow, we're going to see even more cancellations. >> all right. massive, massive storm.
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thank you, rene. i want to go out to the governor of virginia, terry mcauliffe. you've already declared a state of emergency. you've authorized the national guard. you had a smaller storm ahead of the massive one come through. now you could be looking at 20 inches of snow, deadly ice. do you have the equipment to handle this type of storm? >> well, i went out this morning to declare a state of emergency at 8:00 this morning. what that allows you to be able to do is get rid of the weight restrictions on the roads, reposition all of your heavy equipment. we send 500 trucks out yesterday to northern virginia to get ready for the first incident we had yesterday. now we've authorized 13,000 pieces of equipment. we have 2500 personnel on the streets. we have 650,000 tons of salt, about 2 million gallons of liquid salt. so we have the materials that we need. we have the personnel. i've just activated 500 national guardsmen and women. we're ready. this could be one feet to three
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feet in virginia. we're prepared. we've got everybody in place and there's no state government operations tomorrow. so i've closed the state government. let's keep folks off the road so our personnel can do their work. >> pretty stunning numbers you're putting out there. washington, d.c., is suspending the metro service. last year, i'll never forget traveling when the roads were closed. travel was banned last winter. we were only on the road because we were covering it here at cnn. how far are you prepared to go? are you going to be shutting down the roads? >> well, we're going to look at everything. we're very good at this. we've taken all of the precautions, as i said, yesterday before anything occurred, i sent 500 trucks out to do the pretreatment on the northern virginia roads that we had. 13,000 pieces of equipment now deployed. so our folks are out there laying down the materials that we need to be ready. we feel very comfortable about where we are. as i say, i worry about parts of virginia, southwest virginia,
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many of our rural communities, very difficult when you get one to two to three feet of snow. elderly individuals.pplies, - that's why we've deployed and activated the national guard. as you know, we're in northern virginia with all of those cars, i'm imploring people, if you don't have to go out tomorrow, don't go out. it's going to get warmer later on on sunday, monday and tuesday. let the crews do what they need to do and we can get back to normalcy as soon as possible. most of the schools are possible. i shut down the state government. i feel we're on top of this. it's important we do it. it's my job to keep these communities safe and we're on top of these situations. >> governor mcauliffe, thank you. good luck. >> thank you, erin. "outfront" next, breaking news, a new poll in iowa shows that the race has shifted and i mean dramatically. stunning numbers coming up after the break. and the ted cruz pile-on tonight. more and more republican leaders are saying, vote trump, not cruz. and sarah palin back in the
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of the caucuses. that's a stunning development. again, donald trump crushing ted cruz by 11 points. bernie sanders surging ahead of hillary clinton, leading clinton by eight points. to give you context, he's leading by eight points in the poll today. he was trailing by 18 in our same poll just one month ago. that's why we use the word "stunning." dana bash is "outfront." when you look at the poll, trump and sanders, it looks like, are running away from it. but there's one major caveat. they will bring in the new caucusgoers because i want to show our viewers what the numbers would look like if it was just the caucusgoers who went to the polls or caucuses in 2008 the last time there was a democratic nomination. it was 55 to 38.
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that is based on the people who went to the caucuses eight years ago. ironic, since she lost, she actually came in third in those caucuses. but let's look at the republican side. very similar dynamic for donald trump and ted cruz. if it were the same people caucusing in 11 days that went in 2012 four years ago, it would be a dead heat, a statistical high. it's basically a dead heat. what does this tell us? it really matters. even more so in these iowa caucuses. because donald trump and bernie sanders, to make those big leads that you started with a reality, they are going to have to convince the people that have been lining up for them in the rallies and telling pollsters who are going to go with them to these caucuses, many of whom have not gone before. >> what about evangelicals? are they settling in and getting convinced who they are going to
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vote for? >> that's a place where, on the republican side, ted cruz still has a slight edge. we'll show you that. he now has a 33% among evangelicals, up from 26% just last month. donald trump isn't that far behind, though. he's at 31%, up from 41. so they both have more of a share of the evangelical electorate in iowa. if so, very close and perhaps surprising since ted cruz is so fluent in sort of talking the talk of the evangelicals and now donald trump now famously earlier this week at liberty university kind of fumbled the bible verse that he was quoting. it doesn't seem to matter to evangelicals who really are an important, a key part of the caucus electorate in the state of iowa, erin. >> dana bash, thank you. 60% of the caucusgoers on the republican side are evangelicals in iowa.
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let's go to david challian and ron brownstein. you've been covering presidential elections at the nitty gritty levels who votes and why for years. is it reasonable to count on turnout increasing as much as donald trump and bernie sanders need it to? >> with the scars to prove it, erin. look, yeah. i think that is obviously the big question. you know, many more candidates have talked about expanding the electorate that have succeeded at expanding the electorate. barack obama clearly was able to do that. i think there's no question, at least on the republican side, there's got to be some trump effect. people are not going to stand out in the cold for hours and then all of them not show up. the question is how big an effect. >> right. >> as dana pointed out, you're looking at a very stark difference on the democratic
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side. will these young people flocking to sanders and more blue collar disaffected voters, will they show up? that is the challenge each campaign faced. that's why this poll is better for the outsider candidates than many of the others that we're seeing and pinpoints the real question, what does the electorate look like and how many of them are new? >> obama in 2008 and how he won iowa because of turnout, you're talking about a doubling in numbers. do trump and sanders need a similar jump to win or what is the smallest amount that they can get away with and still pull that victory off? >> if you go back to 2004 and look at what the democratic turnout was then, 125,000 that showed up in that kerry and dean race. it explodes to some 240,000 members. caucus goers. if you are modeling, as the clinton folks are perhaps, a little closer to looking at '04
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than '08, that's a universe of dedicated, tried and true caucusgoers and that clearly benefits clinton. but it doesn't necessarily need to be at obama levels for the sanders surge to materialize. it just needs to be a lot closer to 2008 than 2004. that game of numbers is what exactly every campaign, erin, is going to look for, as everyone shows up to these caucus sites, the first thing they are going to do is, hey, are there a lot more people that have been here before? if there are, they are going to say, we have not seen numbers like this at this caucus location before. this may bode to be a very good night for us. >> ron, this issue of turnout is one that donald trump is very, very worried about. >> right. >> he's talked about it. here he is. >> you've got to get out and vote. if you don't get out and vote, it's all going to go away. they didn't vote for romney. he didn't inspire him. i hope i'm going to inspire you. >> aside from begging people to go caucus, which is what he's
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doing there and everyone else who is running is doing, do you send hot meals to people? rent cars? what do you do? >> it's an extraordinarily labor-intensive process. the trump campaign has not built that organization to the same depth that obama and clinton both did in 2008 and even ted cruz is following a much more conventional model of organizing through churches, visiting small communities, campaigning everywhere and beat the bushes. with trump, whether this national media can translate -- sanders and trump both in iowa are playing with the house's money because they are both in a very strong position in new hampshire. they don't have to win iowa, either one of them. and certainly there's more risk for the other candidates if they do so than there is downside if they fail to do so. >> david, before we go, sanders
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surging. an 18-point deficit that is now an 18-point lead. that's a stunning turnaround in one month. what do you make of that? >> listen, i look at these polls not so much for the very specific numbers but for the direction and there is no doubt that sanders is on a momentum surge right now. what is so curious, though, is when you ask those same caucusgoers who is going to win the nomination in this poll, 60% of them say hillary clinton. so although sanders is clearly sort of piercing that sense of a coronation about to happen on the democratic side, he is still not a race to the notion of inevitably because even this caucus that supports him in the poll, 6 out of 10 say she's going to be the nominee. >> their hearts are with sanders and heads with clinton. this has been a pretty incredible pile-on. is donald trump now the candidate of insiders? and "outfront" tonight, tony
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tonight, a major pile-on. republican senators warning of a revolt if cruz becomes the nominee for president. trent lott admitting he'd prefer donald trump over ted cruz in the white house. have republican leaders concluded that donald trump is the lesser of two evils to them? sara murray is "outfront." >> reporter: tonight, donald trump making a new case to republican voters as a unifier. >> let's get to the establishment. there is total gridlock. >> no, you cannot have that. >> reporter: all while ted cruz, a texas senator. >> thank you, everybody. >> reporter: passed trump as the washington insider. >> there's a bunch of big money in this race, the washington
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establishment right now, they are abandoning marco rubio and they are rushing to donald trump. >> thank you. >> reporter: the latest war of words as more republican leaders distance themselves from cruz. senator orrin hatch, a bush supporter telling cnn he will lose if he's our nominee. dan coats says republicans are still sore about cruz accusing them of being part of a washington cartel. this week, the governor of the hawkeye state even calling for cruz's defeat. >> he is heavily financed by big oil. so we think that once eiowans realize that fact, they might find something else attractive but i think it would be very damaging to our state. >> reporter: and bob dole recently said a cruz nomination would almost certainly mean republicans losing seats in congress.
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and a shot at the white house. >> could you support ted cruz if he eennds up with the nominatio? >> well, i might oversleep that day. >> reporter: tonight, trump's reveling in the establishment backlash against cruz. >> here's a united states senator, republican, doesn't have support of one other republican senator. there's something wrong there. >> reporter: something cruz is hoping to use to his advantage as he calls himself a true conservative. >> i'm a christian first, i'm an american second, i'm a conservative third and i'm a republican fourth. >> hello, everybody. >> reporter: leaving presidential hopeful former presidential hopeful lindsey graham -- >> if you nominate trump and cruz, you get the same outcome. whether it's death by being shot or poisoning, does it really matter? >> reporter: now, not everyone is convinced that trump is the better option.
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rand paul thinks he would be a little worse than ted cruz and a conservative magazine "national review" is putting out a special issue dedicated to why trump should not be president. erin? >> sara, thank you very much in las vegas. donald trump was out there in vegas today. joining me is jeffrey lord, a donald trump supporter. author of "what america needs: the case for trump." those will be duelling. bob, so many people, including people who know him well in congress and even people who know him well back to when he was a college student are saying negative things about ted cruz. are you worried this is going to stick? >> well, i hope it does stick because it's going to benefit ted cruz. as a matter of fact, ted krus has been very open. if you want things to be the same way they are, if you want to keep deal making and growing government and have less services to the people and keep the power in washington versus
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we the people, then he's not your guy. but if you want real change, if you want principled conservative leadership for the benefit of this country, ted cruz is your guy. so i think that now that donald trump is embracing he's the art of the deal guy, people like him, the establishment is liking him, that's going to benefit ted cruz. the environment today is not about deal making with washington, d.c. >> jeff, what do you say to that? could this pile-on with ted cruz hurt donald trump? he's spent seven months running as an outsider. you have two former nominees prefer him. >> i think the answer to this problem is the trump/cruz ticket and that would make both bob and i very happy. you know, these folks are trying to paint donald trump as an establishment figure. i mean, i have to say, with all due respect, that's a joke. everybody knows it.
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the reason donald trump is where he is is because precisely he's not an establishment candidate and you heard lindsey graham, his view of trump or cruz is that it's a choice between shock or poison. i have to say -- and i listen to my friends over there at "national review," these folks urged mitt romney upon us and insisted he was a winner and folks who went after newt gingrich and tried to say that he was anti-reagan. there was no more a staunch of support of reagan than newt gingrich. i just have to say that i am surprised but not surprised by "national review". >> bob, you're making a good argument. those guys like you, you're really bad. but it's not just the establishment passing over ted cruz, right? it's the anti-establishment. sarah palin, of course, endorsing donald trump. even ted nugent today saying, donald trump is as close to ted nugent as you're going to get in
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politics. those are two people that the establishment despise. they are also picking donald trump. >> i think the difference here, erin, is that sarah palin is an o outlier and i think she's providing cover for what people have questions about while guys like myself, brian brown, national organization for marriage are embracing because we celebrate ted cruz's values and we know he's a champion for those values. those are the issues that are going to play well on caucus night. i'm not as consistent as conservative as you may think i am. that's not going to sell. i think ted cruz stays in that lane. he keeps uniting conservatives and he's going to have a good february 1st. >> of course, i should note, ted nugent said he would love it if ted cruz were president. he loves them both. ted cruz hit trump on this issue today. let me play it. >> if you think of the last
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tigtime we beat the washington cartel, the reagan revolution, where millions of americans rose up and i would note that mr. dole then opposed reagan and said we need someone to go to washington and cut a deal. >> jeff, you worked for ronald reagan, as you just said. should voters vote for him who once ran against reagan? >> yeah. bob dole is for jeb bush. he's not for donald trump. he's for jeb bush. i have enormous respect for bob dole but, in fact, he is the ultimate establishment insider. he had his crack at the presidency. he did it his way and he lost and i might add, he did it the way that establishment republicans that run for president always lose. he's not alone in this. he was senator mccain, governor romney, gerald ford. you can go back to the 1940s. we have to sound more like moderates and democrats to get elected and then they get their
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way and lose. ronald reagan was and posed to that. trump is opposed to that and i would say ted cruz is opposed to that. >> i would note bob dole said donald trump would be better than ted cruz who he described as an extremist but not an endorsement for donald trump. thanks to both of you. "outfront" next, donald trump's problem with 2 corinthians. the man who trump says is behind the mistake. and hillary clinton on whether republicans are really ready to vote for a socialist. >> i know a number of democrats, people who i highly respect are concerned and are expressing that concern. >> and sarah palin and the sweater. is that what it is? i didn't know what it was but it is a sweater and that's what everyone is talking about and buying it. try alka-seltzer heartburn reliefchews. they work fast and don't taste chalky. mmm...amazing. i have heartburn. alka-seltzer heartburn reliefchews.
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sanders has take answer clear lead in iowa. democrats there saying they trust sanders over clinton on the economy by 22 points. jeff zeleny is "outfront." >> reporter: in iowa tonight, hillary clinton is focused, above all, on one thing. >> senator sanders -- >> senator sanders. >> reporter: after months of looking beyond senator sanders, clinton gave the policy as close look and real scrutiny. >> i tell you, i'm not interested on ideas that sound good on paper but will never make it in the real world. >> she told cnn's wolf blitzer sanders can't own the mantel of change. >> i think i'm the candidate of real change in people's real lives that will make a difference. >> reporter: she said sanders is hardly anti-establishment. >> he's been elected to office a lot longer than i have. i was in the senate for eight
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wonderful years representing new york. he's been in the congress for 25. >> sanders turned optimistic today featuring "america." ♪ but clinton reminded voters they are not just electing a president. >> we're also choosing a commander in chief. >> reporter: she said sanders is wrong to suggest normizializing relations with iran. >> we can't rush into normalizing relations. the president doesn't believe that and neither do i. i think senator sanders is wrong about that. >> reporter: as many party leaders worry about the democratic socialist, clinton left the door open for concern. >> do you believe the american people are ready to elect a socialist as president of the united states? >> i know a number of democrats, people who i highly respect are concerned and are expressing that concern to me, to jou
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journalists and others. i'm just going to repeat what i believe, which is, i am the best choice to be the next president and commander in chief. >> reporter: now, as for the democratic socialist, a label that senator sanders proudly embraces, he was far quieter in new hampshire today. he barely mentioned sect clinton at all. so a change of campaign strategies here. but a clinton adviser told me, they are trying to contain any growth of sanders in iowa. they are trying to shake loose iowa democrats who might be considering him. but i can tell you, erin, it was an aggressive speech. it's only going to continue to escalate as time goes forward. time is running out for hillary clinton to make her argument to iowans. erin? >> thank you, jeff. joining me now from davos, switzerland, our senior political analyst david gergen. i know that everyone there is talking about this issue and now
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you have this new poll. more bad news for the clinton campaign. bernie sanders is now ahead in iowa, ahead in new hampshire. if she loses both of those states, is it possibly over for her? >> no. no. she has a fall back position as the campaign turns south after new hampshire she'll be in much better shape. she'll still be considered the likely nominee. but losses -- back to back losses in iowa and new hampshire would badly wound her. they would bring a lot of finger pointing within the party. we already know that bill clinton has been saying, why didn't you build a bigger firewall in the south, why have you allowed expectations to go up so high in iowa? she could still pull it off in iowa. she's got a good organization there. she could still win. but if she loses both, she's going to be a damaged candidate and there's going to be a sense of, oh, my gosh, here we go again. >> that's what happened in 2008
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when she had that loss. would you think, given that, no matter who the person she was running against was, happened to be bernie sanders who did she make a mistake not managing expectations? >> well, they certainly underestimated bernie sanders and what is going on to the left of the party. it makes her look like a candidate more of the past and not understanding today's political environment, how much happiness there is on the democratic party that is fuel the sanders' surge. they let new hampshire get the real surprise. all of this i think is going to give a sense of the country. you know, maybe she's not going to make it. do we need to look to joe biden? do we need to look to somewhere else? can bernie sanders going to be the nominee of the party?
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>> sounds like there is pessimism and real sole searching? >> i think secondhand i talk to people who have been talking to people inside the clinton team who are growing pessimistic. they are very, very worried about iowa now. and there's going to be sole searchi searching soul searching and she's not going to be a good candidate but a better president and that may hold some sway but i don't think there's any question that something is going on here that they don't get, we don't entirely get that is fueling bernie sanders and making her a weaker candidate than anybody imagined at this point. >> all right. thank you very much. david gergen. and "outfront" next, donald trump tripping on a bible reference. my guest tonight is the man that trump says gave him the exact line. and jeanne moos on sarah palin's famous endorsement sweater which is flying off the shelves. across america, people...
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which i could show you and i said tony has to know better than anybody. >> "outfront" now tony perkins. so, tony, what happened? >> erin, trust me, i know my books of the bible. what happened is that, you know, i have had a conversation with donald trump. he mentioned that he was going to be going to my alma mater, which is liberty university and asked if i could give him some suggestions, one of which was the second corinthians 3:17 the theme verse for liberty university and the other issue is talk about religious freedom and how that's under assault both here domestically and abroad and that's what he did. he talked about those issues and i thought he did quite well. >> so you thought he did well and this whole issue of two, second, does it matter? i mean some people say this mistake was a big deal. others say it doesn't matter. here is how trump said it. >> it's a very small deal, but a
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lot of people in different sections of the world say two and my mother, as you know, is from scotland and they would have said two. >> so is donald trump right? is this just not a big deal, tony? >> well, i mean, look, it shows that he's not familiar with the bible, that, you know, that's the way it's written in the new testament of second corinthians. donald trump is an interesting guy and there are things i find fascinating about him and like about him as well as other evangelicals this is a conversation i had with him as i've had with other presidential candidates. we're an advocate position. i offer to all candidates to talk about those issues and if they ask for suggestions, i give it to them. that's not an equated endorsement. it's the fact we want to help them understand the issues, how to talk about those issues and the fact he's gone to liberty
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and i'm a graduate, dr. jerry fall well was a mentor of mine and i spoke to jerry junior about it. look, there are things about donald trump even in the evangelical world. >> you say even in the evangelical world, i guess just to be clear do you decembispute side of the story? >> no. i wrote two 3:17 and i'm guilty as charged. i sent him a couple suggestions of things he could talk about as a connection point. >> right. do you think this key issue that he's a man of character, a man of faith. would you possibly endorse him? i know you haven't endorsed anyone yet. >> there is a lot more to consider in -- as i said that i like about donald trump, very
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interesting man and i'm looking for someone as i look at the candidates and i got a deep faith with. that's the factor for me as i look through this but doesn't keep me from having conversations with candidates and friendships in helping them understand the issues in this community, which is in very significant portion of the republican voting base. i think it's helpful for them to understand them. >> all right. tony perkins, thank you very much. good to talk to you. i appreciate it and next, sarah palin and her sweater. was engineered... ...to help sense danger before you do. because when you live to innovate, you innovate to live. the all-new audi q7. a higher form of intelligence has arrived.
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sarah palin stealing the spotlight. here is jeanne moos. >> no more footing around. >> reporter: there is definitely no footing around. >> what is she wear sng looks like she killed a disco porky pine. what is going on there? >> reporter: go ahead and laugh but that disco porky pine is sold out everywhere we looked. we call it the endorsement sweater but not exactly endorsed by the fashion police. >> a little tassels. i could have seen ginger wearing that on gilligan's island before sarah palin wearing it at a
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campaign rally. "the washington post" suggesting it was intentionally inappropriate for a political event. did you notice sarah palin's sweater? good, you were supported to. >> i'm here to shark l and shine. >> what do you call these shimmering shining things? >> reporter: is that chain mail on sarah palin? but a defender wrote the sweater is delightful, more power to her. she wore the same woven silk sweater a couple of months ago for a network tv interview. >> absolutely. >> reporter: palin started shimmering long ago. check out her gown the time she came in third for miss alaska when she was 20. some may say seems sexist to me, we never discuss men's suits but we did pick on marco rubio's high heeled booties. last year, sarah wore what seemed to be her daughter's bristol dress to snl's 40th
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anniversary joking. >> what if i were to choose donald trump as my running mate? and i can see russia from my house. >> reporter: i can see the snl folks desperately trying to track down one of these sold out sweaters for tina fey. thank you so much for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. good evening, john berman in for anderson. breaking news on two fronts, new polling reveals the makings of a political avalanche in iowa and a very real, very dangerous blizzard. let's begin with the blizzard and believe it or not, these pictures you're looking at now just a preview. a single inch of snow did that in washington overnight and if the forecast holds, get ready for two more feet on top of that in some parts. take a look at the map. late computer models show 30 inches or more in the washington d.c. area. blizzard warnings there
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