that's it for us tonight. i'll see you back here at 9:00 tomorrow. "ac 360" starts right now. good evening, thanks for joining us. tonight the biggest, baddest. this time it's personal high stakes showdown in all of american politics. oh, yeah, and also the caucuses on monday. and that republican debate tomorrow. basically, sometimes bizarro planet called politics got knocked off its axis with fox news. that is him campaigning in north carolina. the showdown became a war last night when he backed out of the debate taking shots at moderator megyn kelly for he says treating him unfairly for a snarky press release that fox put out. today he called kelly a lightweight, because, as he put it, he refuses to call her a bimbo. calling her a bimbo, he tweeted, would be politically incorrect. that's the kind of day it's been.

it's also been a day for fox news, which used to be a gop gate-keeper to scramble to fix things for trump and for trump not to care. he unveiled what he'll be doing tomorrow night. our jim acosta is traveling with the trump campaign. he joins us now. so what about this event he says he's going to have tomorrow night? >> well, i understand the trump campaign made it official earlier this evening, putting out a press release, announcing that donald trump will essentially be holding a counter programming rival event across town in des moines, at drake university. and it's going to be benefitting veterans' organizations, according to the trump campaign. now we should point out, we're at this event with donald trump behind me in south carolina. he has not really addressed this debate controversy at all. he has only touched on it a couple times, saying he refuses to talk about it. he noted the fact there have been a number of debates so far, and that he feels like he was treated unfairly in that debate that featured fox news and megyn kelly. that's essentially it. but, you know, when i asked a

senior trump campaign official earlier this evening, is there any chance that donald trump could do both of these events, his event and the debate lewandowski said no. invitations are going out to trump supporter so it's a lot to unravel if donald trump is going to change his mind and do this debate tomorrow night. >> again, donald trump, part of his genius, it seems like everybody has an opinion about this decision he's made. you've been talking to people in south carolina. how are the people you're talking to reacting? >> as a matter of fact, and perhaps it's not too surprising, because we're at a donald trump rally, many of the people here support donald trump's decision. here's a bit of what they had to say. >> kind of reminds me of tiger woods skipping a pga event and he realizes that he can even cause more attraction to himself by this move, and probably lengthen his lead. >> i don't like the idea of kelly trying to give him these

types of questions but i really think he should go to the debate. >> you do. >> yeah. >> you think it might hurt him? >> it won't hurt him with me. but it might hurt him with someone. >> i think it's okay if he skips. that's his decision. i actually think it will move him up in the polls. >> really? >> yes. >> you think it will help him? >> i do think it will help him. >> now anderson, that gives you sort of a variety of opinions as to what donald trump is doing tomorrow night. but i have to tell you, from talking to a number of people, more than just the people we showed onscreen, people here are having a visceral reaction in favor of donald trump, and really against fox news, and anderson, covering republican politics for a long time, it is very strange to hear conservatives going off on fox news at a donald trump rally but we're hearing that tonight. >> jim acosta, thank you. this has turned what might have been a conversation between the candidates and strategies into caucuses and something exclusively about one donald trump. joining us, john king, host of

"inside politics" and brian stelter, host of "reliable sources." trump says it was the statement by fox news that caused him to back out of the debate. do you buy that? >> i think it was the last straw. there might have been an overreaction by both men. roger ailes and donald trump. donald trump may have overreacted by walking away from the debate. the view from fox, trump was always looking for an excuse to get out of the debate. he didn't want to face ted cruz tomorrow night. you can choose to believe that or not to. this might be a petty, personal argument that's playing out in front of the whole country because these two men are so powerful. >> but brian, trump has talked about shenanigans with debates at just about every debate. he's talked about, maybe i won't do it, or maybe i'll -- >> maybe donate to -- right. >> so it's not completely out of the ordinary that he has an issue with the debate. or has been kind of toying with the idea. >> we are only -- more pressure

on the line, more at risk. and, of course, he believes he has more power than ever, as he consolidates his lead. he knows other television networks will air his event tomorrow night and he'll get a lot of attention for it. and once again, he is like the puppet master, pulling the strings. >> and all other candidates are having a reaction too. gloria, you're talking on the ground in iowa. how is his decision being viewed now in people you're talking to? >> well, at a trump rally last night that i was at, the die hard trump supporters were fine. we know who he is. he's not a surprise to any of us. we know what he would say. and they're kind of like, let's take a look at how these other guys look without him on the stage. but i was at a marco rubio rally earlier today. ted cruz rally now. and folks there particularly undecided voters.

and believe it or not, there are a lot of undecided voters here. they're saying he should show up. because for those voters, they want to take a look -- last look at him. and, you know, if donald trump were to get all of his supporters out to the polls, he would win. he wouldn't need those undecided voters. but the big question about trump is, whether those people will actually participate. >> right. >> if they don't, those undecided voters become more important. >> john, you know, there's a method to a lot of the stuff donald trump does, even stuff that seems off-the-cuff. what does he have to gain by not being there? >> this is the great debate. is there a method to his madness or a madness to his methods? what does he have to gain? it depends on his thinking. again, i'm going to say again, he's a guy who says i could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody and not lose any support. if he truly believes that, that could be part of his calculation. he thinks he has enough support now to win iowa or at least to essentially run a dead heat with ted cruz even if he comes in at close second and doesn't want to lose that by being in a debate. remember what the first megyn kelly confrontation was about. his own words.

she started reading him things he said in his own twitter account and he got mad and thought the question was out of bounds and it wasn't. they were his own words. what was going to happen tomorrow night? ted cruz was going to turn to him because of ted's strength with evangelicals. donald, what did you mean what you said when you said you were pro choice. what did you mean when you said you supported gay rights? ted cruz was prepared, after being his friend for a long time to come after him quite aggressively, and so were several other candidates, because ted cruz has to. because ted cruz needs to win iowa and donald trump is the biggest threat. so if you believe that was the calculation, it makes some sense. protect what you have and essentially the old north carolina under dean smith, going into the four corners and do no harm. but quickly, a lot of republican strategists to gloria's point say there are undecideds out there, and some are republicans and might get offended, iowa republicans, because they take the process so seriously. >> again, brian, he dominated the conversation with days to go

before the caucuses and is making all the other candidates react to him as he has all along. rush limbaugh talked about this and really defended donald trump, saying it's not about fear of megyn kelly or disrespecting people of iowa. i want to play that. >> this is what it looks like. when some guy stands up to the rules and the game and says, "screw yours, i'm looking out for me first." that's all this is. and you can say whatever you want, but i am not dumb. i'm not going to give you the gun and the bullet and stand still. you want to hit me, come get me. but i'm not going to put myself in your line of fire. >> it's interesting, rush limbaugh having his back on this. he has been critical of some of the attacks donald trump has made on ted cruz. >> rush limbaugh is close to roger ailes and siding with trump on this one. what jim acosta said at the rally is significant. for a while we have been hearing about how some conservatives

believe fox is too moderate and don't believe, don't trust what people like bill o'reilly and megyn kelly are saying on fox news. donald trump doesn't just need fox. he has his social media accounts, other channels. he is essentially producing the trump show day in, day out, on whatever platform he wants to. and that is a change from past cycles where fox news was more important, arguably, than it is today. >> it's also interesting, gloria raises the specter of how do other candidates on the stage tomorrow night deal with this? do they go after -- do they mention it, do they attack donald trump? or do they just try to use the fact that he's not there to make the most of their air time? >> well, there's a huge vacuum. on that stage. and i've been talking to the other campaigns today. and it's very clear to me that they're all looking for a way to first of all attack donald trump for not being there. i spoke with jeb bush earlier today. he said, you know, you can't pick up your toys and go home.

i'm sure cruz will take him on that way in abstentia. but suddenly this elevates cruz to the guy with the target on his back. and they will all be attacking cruz and i was just talking to some cruz people here who were saying, we understand that. we're ready for it. we know rubio is going to attack us. how do we respond to him without elevating rubio. because now they're in position number one, and they don't want to elevate rubio any more than he's already been elevated, particularly in iowa, where he's not doing half as well as cruz. >> john, trump's opponents also then use the line, well, if you can't handle questions by a reporter, how is he going to handle debating hillary clinton or going toe-to-toe with vladimir putin or whoever it may be on the world stage if he becomes president. >> that's the interesting game of chess and strategy, the other candidates are going to have to make. how much do you go after donald trump, trying to peel away some of his support, saying i thought he was the strong candidate. i thought he was tough.

i thought he had high energy. what is he afraid of. why isn't he here to take questions from megyn kelly and us. most likely we will hear that from someone. the question is, do you do a lot of that or think that's a waste of time. most still think that first and second in iowa -- unless there is a huge trump collapse, which nobody foresees, first and second are going to trump and cruz and that third place slot is incredibly consequential. can it be marco rubio, can jeb bush surprise us, can rand paul surprise us. remember, he has an iowa network too. incredibly consequential. so even if you might want to attack trump, even if you might want to get some attention attacking trump, helping yourself is much more important than hurting the other guy. >> the candidate -- they can say he's weak, call him a cry baby, but he's over across town raising money for veterans. you can call that cynical, whatever it is, it's a very powerful message and trump will say it over and over again. >> brian stelter, good to have you, gloria borger. john king as well. we'll dig deeper into the

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moments ago at a rally in south carolina, donald trump did what he's done before when accused of having contempt for women. >> when i look at some of these -- thank you, darling. we're going to take care of women. do we love women, right? see? see, here i can say. we respect women, we cherish women, we love women. and thank you. >> well, you contrast that with what he said today about megyn kelly, saying but not quite saying she's a bimbo, contrasted

with a lot of what he said on the campaign trail. >> honestly, megyn, if you don't like it, i'm sorry. although i could probably not be based on the way you treated me, i wouldn't do that. you can see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever. >> has a habit of speaking whenever she wants to speak. >> i can't say anything to her because she's a woman. what was that, was that a dog? oh-oh. it's hillary. i know where she went. it's disgusting. i don't want to talk about it. no, it's too disgusting. >> again, he says he cherishes women, respects them and trusts them. the question, do women who made up 53% of the vote in the 2012 presidential election, trust him. joining us is cnn political commentator, donna brazil, top democratic party official and bush supporter and rubio friend, which might be more than you can say about jeb bush these days. joining us as well is andy dean,

trump supporter and former president of trump productions. andy, first of all, were you surprised by this rift between trump and fox news, and the way trump has gone about it, or do you think the statement by fox was so over the top that he's justified? >> i think the statement was over the top. and i think it was offensive, and also not funny. it felt like maybe the weatherman was trying to be a comedian and wrote the statement. and it felt awkward and odd, and donald trump was thrown off by it. he didn't like it. and he responded in kind. but i think what you're seeing here, anderson, is donald asserting control over the process. he is saying, hey, i'm the guy, i'm going to control events. and that's what americans want to see, because it's a reaction to obama, who we feel like has lost control, and one last thing i'll say on this. there is a historical precedent here. ronald reagan in 1980 took the same type of control. he skipped the iowa debate, and then more importantly, right before new hampshire, there was a live event in new hampshire in which ronald reagan went head-to-head against the

national telegraph, who was hosting the debate, and they tried to shut off ronald reagan's microphone. ronald reagan grabbed the microphone and said, hey, i paid for this microphone, because he didn't want the influence of the nashua telegraph. so i think what you're saying is donald trump asserting control and i think the american people like it. >> and anna, i think andy raises a good point that to certainly trump supporters, this can be seen as strength. and rush limbaugh echoed that, as well, donald trump taking control of this process. >> well, you know, to donald trump supporters, practically anything he does is seen as a positive, and seen as strength. the feud with fox is not surprising. it is recycled. it is, you know, recycled material.

he has been recycling this feud every few weeks since the first debate where megyn kelly asked him the question on his attitude and the things he has said about women. and it has worked for him. let's remember that in the republican base, the media is the enemy. it's not seen with good eyes. now, it is surprising that that's even holding towards fox, and it's even holding towards megyn kelly. the loyalty of trump supporters is much more so towards trump than it is even to megyn kelly, who has been a conservative stalwart and someone that is well-liked. i think he started this as a hissy fit. i think this is a temper tantrum by donald trump. but i think it's going to end up being a very good thing for him. who can pick at a guy who is raising funds for veterans at the same time that a debate is going on, raising funds for a network? who can pick on a guy who, you know, has gone to over debate and is saying at this point, no, i'm not going to go to this. so i think his hissy fit is going to be a brilliant move. >> and donna, for all the criticism that democrats certainly -- and we've heard from some of the democratic candidates have made against donald trump, what they say are

his attitudes toward women or comments he's made that they have used negative toward women, you look at the poll numbers and it's important to point out, he has a substantial report from republican women. the rnc national poll, 37% of republican women support donald trump, 16 points ahead of his nearest opponent, ted cruz. >> those numbers reflect where donald trump stands in a very large candidate field. we'll see what happens if he secures the nomination, and, of course, he's the candidate this fall. i just want to tell andy, barack obama won the women's vote in both 2008 and 2012, 7%, even with a woman on a ticket, sarah palin, 12% in 2012 with mitt romney. women voters are looking for candidates who will address their concerns, the insecurities and aspirations of all-american voters. and i think the conduct -- and basically, what megyn kelly did, anderson, as you recall, she quoted donald trump to donald

trump and he did not like it. and so he took offense at it. and ana is right. there has been a running feud. this is a candidate who is bringing what i call a punch bag mentality, a playground bullying mentality to the presidential field. i don't know why he won't show up. because he's dominated, and andy, you're right. he's dominated all of these conversations. show up and allow megyn kelly to have her say. i just want one other point. we have only had in the history of our country, six women, i believe, moderate these debates. six women in the history of our country. so this notion that somehow or other a man like donald trump -- or any man, any person, would not appear because they take issue with the quote, unquote, moderator, who happens to be a woman. huh, that sounds very 19th century. i think he should show up tomorrow, and he can still support our nation's veterans. >> andy, go ahead. >> okay. well, first, he's shown up to six previous debates and we'll see tomorrow night's ratings.

the american people are going to have a choice on fox news to watch the seventh episode of a boring show we've seen prior, or donald trump doing something for our veterans and i think the answer will be donald trump and our veterans. and one final point to our comment about donald trump, and you referenced barack obama and his success with the female vote. remember, barack obama is not running again. we've got hillary clinton to deal with, and donald trump is very willing and we are open to looking at hillary clinton's record being married to bill. >> can i tell you something, andy? donald trump's love life, his affairs, his salacious -- >> bring it all on the table. let the american people decide. >> some of his books -- you like to dig and get the toilet paper out of the trash can. so that's great, andy. because that's not what women want. that's not the conversation --

>> can i just say -- >> guys, guys. no one listens when you're all talking over each other. ana, let me -- >> can i referee -- >> don't referee, dear. >> i don't want to hear -- i don't want to hear one more word about bill clinton to go after hillary clinton. go after hillary clinton for the things she has done. and i don't want to hear about donald trump's affairs. we've been hearing about them and reading about them for years. let us focus on policy. let's focus on issues. this is a country that needs a turn-around. we need -- we have -- you know, we have kids in michigan drinking orange water that is poisoned by lead. and we're talking about who slept with who? come on, guys. >> don't preach that to me, ana. you need to preach that to the people in the republican party. >> i'll listen to you, anderson. >> i'm just telling you, no one listens. ana, eric erickson wrote a column calling trump a wimp, saying he's not tough enough to handle megyn kelly but able to handle hillary clinton. when you have a prominent conservative voice saying this

and eric erickson early on said he lost the evangelical vote and is doing well among evangelicals. how much does trump risk alienating a very influential sector of the base? ana? >> well, i think he's -- he's alienated already a very influential sector of the base, but he also has a very loyal sector of the base. so we're going to just have to wait and see which of the two sectors is the one that's the greatest. you know, you remember that eric hosts a very successful event that attracted practically every successful candidate donald trump is going to attend. and after he made his initial offensive comments, he was disinvited. he took a lot of criticism and heat from trump supporters but stood on principle. and i think that's what you are seeing again from eric. you know, eric erickson, finds

it offensive. and so do a lot of other people. >> a lot of americans find those words offensive. >> always good to have you on. donald trump's latest move, bailing on the fox news debate and hosting his own event instead. his rival, ted cruz, hoping to leverage the drama. more on that, ahead. his? price match guarantee. and this? yep! so no monkey business, no tomfoolery? oh, we do have tom foolery, tom. staples has a price match guarantee. make low prices happen. staples make more happen.

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back to the breaking news. ted cruz spending the eve of the next republican debate campaigning in west des moines, iowa, at a pro life rally where a moment ago he took a poke at donald trump for dropping out of tomorrow's debate and issued a challenge to a one-on-one debate. joining me now is rick tyler, communications director for the cruz campaign and back with us is john king. rick, i want to start with you. donald trump now released details of his own event tomorrow night. his campaign says it's going to benefit veterans groups, basically setting it in stone that he will not be at the debate. your reaction tonight. >> i find it a little ironic as we exploit veterans. he doesn't want to get in a debate and decided to cut and run from the debate. i think it's a disservice to the voters. iowa has worked hard to have a debate here and now he's not going to appear at the debate. so i think that's -- he's going to pay the price for it. >> when you say pay the price, do you see your candidate going after him for not being there tomorrow night? do you think that's going to be a topic among many of the candidates, particularly among your candidate?

>> well, it's not just a topic for ted cruz, it's a topic among iowa voters and voters across the country who want to see candidates side by side so they can discern who is the best to be the president of the united states. this isn't about ratings, this isn't about how much money news networks make. this is about a debate so people can decide who is going to be the commander in chief. and so, you know, he talks about he didn't get a good deal or not being treated fairly. i don't think it's -- i think it's very unbecoming of a presidential candidate, and i think people can see that. >> john, i know you want to ask rick a question, as well. go ahead. >> rick, i'm just wondering, now that donald trump has denied you the opportunity or senator cruz the opportunity to question him about past views, i wonder if you're starting to regret letting the faux bromance go on too long. only a couple weeks ago until then senator cruz was saying i like donald trump, i'm not going to attack donald trump. but i was just out there in iowa and you have a great organization but a lot of evangelicals support donald trump. your advertising says, wait a minute, why are you doing that? he used to say i'm for abortion rights and other things that most conservatives find objectionable. do you wish maybe you had made that case directly to him sooner?

>> you know, john, i know you've covered this for a long time. but campaigns take a process and you have to go through the process. ted cruz didn't have as much name i.d. as donald trump did, certainly when donald trump got to the lead, you know, about 4% of his voters would come our way. so we had to go through a process of letting people get to know ted cruz. and these debates have been a great advantage for ted cruz for people to know ted cruz. and over time, people get to know him and what you stand for. they've got to trust you. we went through that. and then people finally want to know, how do you contrast from donald trump. and so we're in that process now. we're discerning -- articulating the contrast between ted cruz and donald trump and what ted cruz -- he's gone to washington, did what he said he's going to do. and donald trump, everybody is now learning, that he was -- he was pro partial birth abortion, pro gay marriage, pro t.a.r.p.,

pro stimulus. donald trump has a horrific record for someone who wants to win the nomination. he can probably win the democratic nomination and now people are discovering he's not -- he has never been one of us, certainly not a movement conservative and barely could qualify as a republican. >> rick, your candidate just talked about this on the stage. i want to play that for our viewers. >> apparently, mr. trump considers megyn kelly very, very scary. and, you know, donald is a fragile soul. i mean, she might ask a mean question, and who knows what could happen. i mean, his hair could stand on end. and imagine someone called you and said, you know what, i'd like that job. but i ain't showing up for the interview. what would you say? you're fired! and i'm going to propose a venue, western iowa tech, saturday night in sioux city.

we already have it reserved. 8:00 saturday night, a two-hour one-on-one debate. >> rick, do you cut trump any slack? fox news put out this statement, you know, he says fox news put out this statement ridiculing me. that's not why i'm participating. do you believe that fox news is a fair arbiter in this debate? >> doesn't really matter in the end. what matters in the end is that you get on stage and you're not afraid to face the questioners, the questions, the other opponents. it's about the american people. it's not about roger ailes. this is not about fox news. it's not about any of that. it's about running for the most important job in the united states of america, and america as the leader of the free world. it's about who do you trust to be the commander in chief. how do you trust with your future, your children's future and their prosperity. and to get into these arguments

about oh, i wasn't treated right and i don't like them -- it's petty and small. and i just think it's unbecoming of a presidential candidate. you saw ted cruz, you know, use a lot of humor there. and i appreciated that. because, you know, he's making -- making a point by making humor, so making a little joke about it. but, you know, he's right. he gets right to the point. what is he afraid of? >> rick tyler. appreciate you being on. john king, as well. coming up, the candidates who spent a whopping $77 million on campaign ads in iowa, but the question is, can voters in that state even correctly identify who most of the candidates are. randi kaye went to a des moines diner to find out how much recognition $77 million actually buys. also ahead, flint, michigan's, toxic water crisis. who is to blame for lead water ending up in people's homes and what is the damage to kids? poppy harlow with the governor of michigan, still to come.

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presidential candidates have been flooding the airwaves of iowa with ads leading up to monday's caucuses. all told, they have spent $77 million in radio and tv ads in iowa. now what we wanted to know, are they actually getting their money's worth? forget the nuances of their positions. can the good people of iowa even identify who is who at this point? randi kaye went to the heart of the heartland to find out. take a look.

>> reporter: drake diner in the heart of des moines, iowa, served as our test kitchen. all we needed was our camera and an ipad loaded with photos of all of the presidential candidates. to test iowans' knowledge. some were certainly more recognizable. >> who is that? >> hillary clinton. >> who is that guy? >> jeb bush. >> where is he from? >> florida. >> does he have any famous family members? >> yes, two presidents. >> bernie sanders. >> is he republican or democrat? >> democrat. >> this guy, everyone knew. >> who is that? >> donald trump. >> okay. you know anything about him? >> too much. >> oh. >> everybody reacts like that. >> that's the donald. >> and you know anything else about him? >> we know everything about him. >> do you know anything that he stands for? >> he wants to build a big wall. >> impressed?

not so fast. beyond that, let's just say it wasn't pretty. look what happened when i showed these guys a picture of marco rubio. >> you're stumped. >> i know the face. >> can you guess? >> i'm thinking that's ted cruz. >> oh, guys, come on. really? >> really, yeah. >> okay. nope. >> it's an attempt. >> how about i give you the initials. >> all right. >> that would help. >> mr. >> oh, that's marco rubio. >> i gave them another chance with rick santorum. >> who is this? >> i'm going to with hold my answer to start with. >> okay. that means he doesn't know. do you know? >> i don't know. >> you have no idea. >> no, sorry. >> he's a presidential candidate. >> what's that? >> you guys want to phone a friend? do you want some help? >> how about some initials again? >> rs. >> is that rick santorum? >> that is. do you have any idea what state he's from? >> rick santorum was a challenge

>> rick santorum was a challenge for her, too. >> let's see if you know who this is. >> yeah, i do, but i don't know that i can -- santorum. >> is she telling you names over here? >> i told her to. >> that's not allowed. >> the candidate that seemed to stump our group the most was republican john kasich. >> who is that? >> hmmm. >> is that that kasich guy? >> is that that kasich guy? all right. >> i always have trouble with his name. >> you got points there. you definitely got some points there. did you know that? >> no. >> who did you think it was? >> i have no idea. >> he's one of the republican candidates of the many. i have no idea. >> so he's not a hollywood actor. he's definitely a republican candidate. >> i think so. >> you think so? but you have no idea what his name is. >> no idea. >> democrat martin o'malley was tough for many too. >> do you have any idea about this guy? >> is it rand paul? >> no. >> o'malley.

>> o'malley, there you go. do you know where he's from? >> no. >> did he ever hold political office before, do you know? >> was he a senator? >> i couldn't tell you. >> and this slipup, priceless. >> who is this? >> that's jeb. >> okay. >> uh -- >> he just said it. >> he just said it, okay. well, i was going to guess chris christie. >> that's jeb bush. >> that's jeb bush. okay. well, they're easily forgotten, in my book. >> randi joins us from des moines. clearly some of the candidates won't be happy after they spent the time crisscrossing the state of iowa. any other highlights from your unscientific experiment? >> very unscientific, anderson. as you saw there. just a few of the highlights from our final tally. i can tell you everyone we spoke with knew who bernie sanders was, who hillary clinton was, where they were from, that they were both democrats. most people knew who chris christie was, that he's governor of new jersey. other people did know who ben carson was.

one woman said he was from detroit. she knew that. i will tell you, though, carly fiorina. one woman called her carley figurino. most people didn't know her full name. most people, if they did know her name, couldn't remember her first name. and rand paul also had a problem. a lot of people kept confusing him with his father, senator ron paul. they kept thinking that has was him. so clearly a lot of work for the candidates ahead, and a lot of work for these potential voters ahead before caucus night come monday. >> randi kaye, thanks. a shootout left one person dead, the leader arrested. the latest in a live report from oregon, next. you totaled your brand new car. nobody's hurt,but there will still be pain.

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solitary confinement. now he's readjusting to life back in america. i spoke to him about how he got through it and how he's doing now. >> first of all, why did you go to iran? >> i thought it would be great to be a student and studying farsi. maybe i could go there and study farsi and see. >> when did you realize you were in trouble? >> it's a very odd thing, you're standing there on their main street in tehran, reading the newspapers, i'm a farsi student, and you're reading these headlines that get progressively more xenophobic and more ant -- anti-american and anti-foreign. and you're always sitting and

wondering with the other foreign students, too, does this mean eme is this. >> so you were arrested just walking down the street reading the paper? >> i was arrested walking down the street on the way to buy my ticket to come home. three people in a hyundai, their car of choice for this care of work, very quickly as i walked by the car, are you matthew? yes. in the car you go, 15-minute drive to the prison. >> they took you directly to prison? >> they took you right through the gate. i couldn't help but notice it was a buysy day. i wasn't the only hyundai sonata there. i'm sitting in an interrogation

cell on the second floor of a specific building used by the intelligence services in iran, and their very first sentence to me was "do you know jason rezaian?" of course i know jason rezaian. everybody knows him. "he's never leaving and neither are you." >> were they akuzing you? >> i was accused of personally trying to overthrow the iranian government. i was accused of having access to bank accounts of millions of dollars and having access of

weapons worth millions of dollars. and it was pointed out the tools to accomplish this deed consisted of some farsi textbooks, some newspapers, flash cards and some pens nech said it's not our plan, it's yours. >> were you in isolation this whole time? in solitary confinement? >> exactly. the first room you're in is solitary confinement, approximately 6 feet by 7 feet. a ceiling is probably 8 feet at one point and 12 feet fall at another point. that becomes your home. that is home. i could touch -- i'm over 6 feet tall so i could touch all three sides of my room at any given point. it's a very thin carpet. there's no bed no, pillow, things like that. there's a very thin carpet over a concrete floor.

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