campaign. four days from tonight at this hour we'll be counting votes. amen. >> and we have really no idea what's going to happen. quite a night already. it's far from over. cnn is covering all of it nonstop. we'll be back with another edition of "360" at 11:00. cnn with don lemon starts right now. 3. here we go. breaking news. it's a big night. no debate. iowa is the place to be. and we're taking you live to all of these events. look at all of these events happening. all the politicos are out. all the people running for esident. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. four days until the iowa caucuses where the first votes of the campaign will be cast. republicans and democrats making their last-minute pitches tonight. there you see them out in force from donald trump's event about three miles away from the gop debate to bill and hillary clinton's rallies to bernie sanders. there's a lot going on. let's get right to it, shall we?

cnn's brianna keilar talked with donald trump moments ago and joins me from iowa. great interview. you talked to donald trump on his plane. what did he say to you? >> we did the interview here at the des moines interview with his family looking on. he said he got a call from fox news. he also says throughout the day he was fielding phone calls including from roger ailes. he got an apology. he wouldn't say from whom at fox news. listen. >> you have an issue with one of the moderators. how is it any different? >> i don't respect megyn kelly. i think he's overrated. fox news called me just before you walked on to the plane. they called me in all fairness,

very nicely, but they want me there very badly. i never once asked she be removed. by the time they apologized, i said the problem is -- >> they on the phone apologized? is that what the phone call was about? >> fox could not have been nicer. >> you got an apology? >> yes. they could not have been nicer. >> who apologized? >> i don't want to say. i said would youave gone if you didn't have this event? he seemed open to it. he does have this event across town. he said it was too late to cancel it or go to the debate because he was doing this event that is at the moment oversold. >> we're looking live at that event where people are getting ready. playing to the cameras there at drake university. brianna keilar just finished up her big interview with donald trump on the plane. as we look at these pictures, we

had a representative on. couldn't really tell us about which veterans groups this money is going to. what did he say about the money he's raising for wounded vets. >> he said he was planning on raising $5 million. he'dome c under fire certainly because it appeared the money was goin to his personal foundation, and then it was unclear which veterans groups, and it still is, which one he's going to be donating the nomone to. his son tweeted out that would be revealed. there were some veterans groups, including the iraq and afghanistan veterans assoction that have said we're not going to take this money. we feel like he's playing politics. also vets groups who say we'll happily take this money. we need this. i guess we'll find out at this event exactly where that money is going to be headed. >> brianna, stand by. we'll get more of brianna keilar's interview with donald trump throughout this broadcast. again, his event getting ready

to start just moments from now in des moines, iowa. i want to take you to hillary clinton on the left-hand side of the screen and donald trump on the right. let's listen in to hillary clinton. >> -- most people think that's where our next problem could come from. i want to be ahead of the curve. go after the guys before they hurt us. don't close the barn dorn after the horses run away. keep the horse in the barn. and the best evidence, the best evidence that my plan is the toughest plan is the republicans are advertising against me trying to convince democrats not to support me. you got to give them credit for cleverness. a little obvious. when karl rove is running an ad advertising against me, you have to think, hmm, what's going on here. i'll tell you what's going on. he and the hedge fund guys and

billionaires have run $6 million in negative ads against me. why? because they know that i mean what i say. i will do what i say, and i will come right after them. and they are doing everything they can to make sure i can't. i tell people, i find this perversely flattering. they've been trying to kill me for years. oh, my gosh, when i was going after universal health care. it was called hillary care before obamacare. >> hillary clinton speaking in iowa. you see the donald trump event, hillary clinton speak, also her husband stumping in iowa as well, and bernie sanders out tonight stumping. let's go to bernie sanders now and listen in. >> today in iowa, today in

vermont, women are having babies. and for those of you who are parents, you know what an extraordinary day it is. you never forget it. and it's a pretty big day for the baby as well. but here is the rub. and that is, if that mom and dad are working class people or low-income people, mom will have to separate herself from that beautiful newborn baby and go back to work in a week or two weeks in order to earn enough money to take care of her family. that should not be happening in america. and that is why i support legislation in the house and the senate to provide three months

of paid family and medical leave. and when real unemployment is close to 10% and youth unemployment is off the charts, i think it's a no-brainer to understand that the federal government needs to develop a massive federal jobs program to put our people back to work. >> there you have it. bernie sanders speaking tonight in iowa. there's so much going on, if you are an establishment republican, on the frichbnges, a centrist democrat, if you are a socialist. whatever kind of political junkie you are, we have it for you. feels almost like election night. i want to bring in my panel.

trump supporter andy dean and bob beckel, the author of "i should be dead," my life surviving politics, tv and addiction. andy, the trump event is under way. donald trump says he's going to raise millions tonight. where will this money go? >> so when donald is speaking tonight, he's going to reveal a list of the wonderful charities that will get this great money. the american people are deciding, as we speak, whether or not to watch a debate which we've seen six times prior or donald trump celebrate our veterans which is just about to happen as you're about to see it on our cam perhaps trump will reveal that list. donald trump doesn't need any more money. he's got $10 billion. he's not doing this for personal gain. this is going to the veterans. it's an exciting night and big night for the veterans. >> he doesn't need the money but needs the people to go out and caucus for him in iowa. not a mistake for him not to be on the stage at an event that's

for republicans, for candidates? >> right, well, we're going to learn that after the vote coming up in a couple of days. if he ends up winning, this is a genius move. if he doesn't win, i'll be on next week and talking about how we're going to win new hampshire. depends on what happens when the people vote. i will say one thing real quick. if you are in iowa right now, the odd are the local news networks, a lot of people forget this because we're on a national cable channel. if you are in iowa, the local news networks in all these different cities, the nbc, abc and cbs affiliates, probably not the fox affiliates but the other affiliates are going to break in for local coverage of the trump event which they have the ability to do. they do not have the legal right to air the debate which can only exclusively air on fox news. so your average citizen in iowa, when they turn on their television, there will be three networks potentially carrying the trump event, cnn carrying it

and fox news is the only one covering the boring debate. >> bob beckel, what's do you make of this? i've never seen anything like it. >> haven't spent the last four days in iowa many, many times. it's about -- it picks up like this and it will get more intense as the next days go by. now is the time to get your voters. get them on the phone. get a commitment to show up. here's the problem. you look at bernie sanders and donald trump. both of them are facing audiences very young. they are the base of their support in many ways. and yet they haven't been out to caucus before. it is from trump's standpoint, i have to think whether he can get his vote out or not is the ultimate question, and turnout. >> we've seen sanders and the two clintons there. we've seen that play out before. when you look at the top left, that's never really happened before. >> no, it hasn't. it is a big roll of the dice. i can't begin to tell you, and

i've been around a long time. i don't know if it's going to help or hurt. my own gut tells me it's going to hurt. to not show up, something the iowans take seriously. to not show up, i think that's going to be a little bit of -- although he's increased in the polls. >> this is just in to cnn. a statement from fox news from our fox news spokesperson. i'm going to read this. from a fox news spokesperson. roger ailes had three brief conversations with donald trump today about possibly appearing at the debate. there were not multiple calls placed by ailes to trump because trump in the interview with brianna keilar said multiple. we said there were not multiple calls. in the course of those conversations we acknowledged his concerns about a satirical observation we made in order to quail the attack on megyn kelly and prevent her from being

smeared any further. furthermore trump offered to appear at the debate upon the condition that fox news contribute $5 million to his charities. we explained that was not possible and we could not engage in a quid pro quo, nor could any money change hands for any reason. in the last 48 hours, we've kept two issues at the forefront. we would never compromise our journalistic standards and we always stand by our journalists. we would always stand by our journalist megyn kelly. we have accomplished those two goals, and we are pleased with the outcome. we're proud to have her on stage as a debate moderator alongside bret baier and chris wallace. bob, react to that. >> i think they are exactly right. i think that -- one of the apologies, who said what? i don't think that's the big issue. fox had every right to try to get him to come on the stage. trump had every right not to go on. the question is, who is it going to hurt more? certainly not going to hurt fox.

fox is not up for election. but it can hurt trump. >> i have to ask you this, andy, since you are a trump supporter. what do you make of this statement saying we didn't make multiple calls. no real apology. >> i'll be honest. a lot of this is like inside baseball. the american people just don't care about roger ailes and how many times he called. most don't -- >> donald trump certainly thinks so because he's making it an issue and bringing up roger ail ailes. >> making an issue with fox news. this is the biggest piece of the news tonight and will reveal itself. showing up at this event tonight is the winner of the 2008 iowa caucus, mike huckabee and the winner of the 2012 iowa caucus, rick santorum. they represent about 5% to 7% support in iowa. by them showing up to this event they realize that they'll not be the republican nominee.

they'll not win this. but by coming here, it's showing they support trump. that's a big deal. >> we'll talk about all of that and much more as we await donald trump and others. they are all speaking tonight and stumping in iowa. we'll get to it. you won't miss any of it. we'll take a quick break and be right back. want to get their hands on. if they could ever catch you.

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thank you, everybody. sit down, please. we had about 24 hours to put this together. it was very, very quick. and we're here for some very special people and we're going to hear from some of them, but this san honor. this is real honor. i wanted to be about five minutes away, and i've enjoyed that. i've enjoyed that. all the online polls said i've done very well with that, with the debates, and i've had a kick with it. but you have to stick up for your rights. when you're treated badly, you have to stick up for your rights. you have to do it. and whether we like it or not, whether it's something we want to do or not, and that's what our country has to do. as an example, iran. the way they've been treating us with all of -- the deal is one of the worst deals i've ever seen negotiated under any circumstances. and we just take it. why have to stick up for ourselves as people. and we have to stick up for our

country when we're being mistreated. remember that. and i have to go a little step further and say that fox has been extremely nice and the last number of hours, actually, and they've wanted me there and they've said how about now? they called a few minutes ago. can you come over? i says hasn't it already started? we thought we'd let them start, and we wanted to be about 15 minutes into that hour so that by now they're all tuned -- and look at all the cameras. this is like the academy awards. we're actually told we have more cameras than they do by quite a bit. and you know what? that's really in honor of your vets. but they have been. they've been very nice and wanted me to go and apologized and everything. they did apologize, and they

could not have been -- but once this started, it's for our vets, there was nothing i could do. i don't know. for me personally is it a good thing? a bad thing? will i get more votes or bad? nobody knows. you're going to like it because we raised over $5 million in one day. over $5 million! o that's not so bad. you know, my whole theme is make america great again. and that's what we're going to do. we wouldn't have even been here if it weren't for our vets. and our vets are being mistreated. illegal aliens are treated better in plamany cases than ou vets. and it's not going to happen anymore. so once this ball started rolling, we couldn't stop it. you see the house is packed. this took place less than 24 hours -- we had less than 24 hours to do this.

i said i'm not going to do the debate out of respect for myself. i won't do it because it would just be wrong. but i love iowa. i'm here. we've got to do something. i didn't know we were going to we actually raised close to 6 million. and a lot more to come. we set up a site. wwwdonaldtrumpforvets.com. they've raised almost $500,000 just today. this money is going to continue to pour in. we have some incredible, incredible people. i want to call out some of the folks that gave a lot of the money and then we'll have someone come up to speak. an incredible speaker and someone who really understands what's the vets are going through. first we have to talk about people that made a lot of money, and they wouldn't have made a lot of money and wouldn't be here if it weren't for the vets and our great military. the military has a lot more guts

than you do. we have different kind of guts, right? so carl icahn gave $500,000. one quick phone call. $500,000. richard leprak, a great builder in new york gave $100,000. donald trump, another great builder in new york, now a politician, i can't stand this. a politician? i don't want to be called a politician. i refuse to be called a politician. donald trump gave $1 million, okay? the fisher family of new york gave $75,000. howard lawberg, great fan and friend of our family, $100,000. a very, very rich man in new

york, a very good friend of mine, a very good person n wants to be anonymous. all his life he was out there. i said could you give me $1 million? he said why? i said don't worry about it. just tell me. it's for the vets. he said you got it. is that good? and he wanted to be anonymous. he's changed because you know what? you know who i'm talking about. two years ago -- yes? >> trump! trump! trump! trump! trump! trump! >> it really is too crazy, right? i tell the story. i love protests. i love protests at my rallies.

because here, it's a beautiful place but we have thousands of people outside that weren't as good as real estate in real estate as you folks. but we have thousands of people outside trying to get in. we set up cameras, screens. we have everything. but i will tell you. you look at that. i love the protesters in the big arenas because the cameras never move. they're always on my face. i say to my wife, melania, honey, stand up. she has to suffer through this. >> i go he and it's always broadcast. nobody care it's crazy. but i say, how did i do? you were great. were there many people there? what do you mean? 21,000. like in the mavericks arena or, i remember, in alabama, mobile, alabama. 35,000 people. we get the biggest crowds by far. much bigger than bernie,

although he's second. no other republican. but they never show the crowd? what do you mean they never show the crowd? they never turn the camera. i always say, i figured maybe they are fixed, new cameras, they can't turn. they are like pretzels the way they can turn them. you can have protesters up in the top and they are turned around sideways. but they don't want to show the crowd. so we have a rich man from new york, a good guy who has become a little reclusive, obviously, $1 million. he's a great guy. we have another unbelievable man ike perlmudder. he did an unbelievable job. one of the great men of our country in terms of business and talent. he's giving ike and laurie perlmutter, $1 million.

j.j.kafaro from florida and from cleveland. he made a lot of money in cleveland. does a good job. fantastic man. $50,000. j.j., thank you. another great friend of mine, one of the most brilliant men you'll ever meet a phenomenal world class poker player. he doesn't do that for a living. he makes money for a living in every way. you cannot make a deal with this guy and come out on top. i'm thinking about him for china. how about him negotiating with china. you know, china, china, this year in trade, will make over $500 billion in terms of our trade deficit. $500 billion. that's no partnership. i'm a free trader. but we have to use our head. we use political hacks to

negotiate with the chinese. they have the smartest people. i deal with them all the time. they buy my apartments for millions. i have their largest bank in the world from china in one of my buildings. i love them. i'm not blaming the chinese. i'm not angry at them. i'm angry at our politicians because we have people that are incompetent running our country. why should we be losing in trade deficits $500 billion a year. if i took a guy like this, put him in charge. his wife is so incredible. would you both come up. mr. and mrs. phil ruffin. come on up. come up. come up. he's never had anything. it's like everything he touches turns to gold.

whatever deal he goes into. he bought a piece of land in las vegas. spent $110 million. sold it a few years later and made plenty of money in between for $1.3 billion? i think he said it's more. every single -- so when he gives a million, you know what that's like, ten cents. phil, just say a couple of words. >> thank you. >> mr. bob beckel, what do you think so far? he's saying he raised almost $6 million for veterans. that's good news for veterans. >> it is good. the people he raised it from, the people he's been in business with. give him credit. he can raise that kind of money. i don't know whether he thinks that still that $5 million is going to -- people in iowa are going to say, gee, what's a wonderful thing he did and not show up at that debate. i believe the people in iowa want to hear what people have to say. matter of fact, the longer i sit here, the more i'm convinced he

made a mistake. >> so did he make a mistake? bob cusack is the editor in chief of "the hill." >> i thought when he made this decision it was a mistake. but he's going to be in every headline tomorrow. they're going to talk a little about the debate but trump will be in every headline. we won't know until we see what happens in iowa. >> let's listen back in. >> if you want it, if you need it, and i sent it back. i am self-funding my own campaign. but all my life, made money. i've always been good making money. i think i have great imagination. all my life i did well. and my father always said everything he touches turns to gold. that's why i use that same expression on him. there's a guy, a fantastic guy. everything my boy touches turns to gold. and what happened is i turn all this money down. they're calling and calling. they want to give me money because being number one, they

all want to control you. they want to give you money. now they call you. remember, i gave you $5 million. i talk about the ford plant, nabisco plant. what happens is all my life, and i'm turning down millions. i was in iowa in a different location. we had 4,000 people. i went to those people. listen, i don't feel good about turning down money because my whole life i've been greedy, greedy, greedy, i've grabbed all the money i can. now i want to be greedy for the united states. i want to grab all that money. i'm going to be greedy for the united states. and it's true. but i always feel guilty. i'm in this beautiful place and the crowd is lovely. we have the most incredible people in this country. in this country it's like a movement going on. the cover of "time" this week is a whole thing, a cover story. they have -- there it is. hold it up. they have the back of my head. they have the back of my head with a massive crowd in front of me and they are covering the

story. and i didn't even know they were doing this story. it's the cover of "time." they are talking about the movement. there's a movement. but what's happening is i said to the crowd, let me ask you this one thing. suppose, and i promise you, stand up, please, could i take all this money and everybody went crazy. no, no, no. there was only one guy in the back corner of the room. he was a crooked looking guy. he looked like such a crook. and he said it's okay to take it. i look. it's the only guy. so i feel a little bit -- i feel a little bit foolish not taking the money. you look at a guy like jeb bush. he's taken 120 -- extremely low energy. i shouldn't say it. he's debating right now. he's probably doing great looking for me. >> donald trump speaking at

drake university in iowa. this is the center of the universe tonight in iowa when it comes to politic. hillary clinton and bill clinton, the former president speaking, as well as bernie sanders there and donald trump holding his own event tonight and not attending the debate just a couple miles down the road. continuing coverage right after this break. don't go anywhere. ls. rush liquid fast relief to your tough cold symptoms. fast, powerful liquid gels from alka seltzer plus performance... ...reimagined. style... ...reinvented. sophistication... ...redefined. introducing the all-new lexus rx and rx hybrid. agile handling. available 12.3-inch navigation screen and panorama glass roof. never has luxury been this expressive.

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thank you. not to be -- not to be offensive, but i'll stand over here so i'm not photographed with the trump sign. i'm supporting another candidate for president. that doesn't mean we can't work together when it comes to helping our veterans. n that's what mike and i are here doing tonight. and, you know, i grew up on a v.a. grounds. my mom and dad worked for the veterans administration for 40 years. and i watched it over that time and heard my parents talk about how the v.a. system has been degraded over time. used to be the best health care system in the world. it's not the best health care system in the world. we van obligation to do something to make sure our veterans have the best possible health care in the world. >> that's rick santorum speaking on stage. ke huckabee also there with donald trump and hillary clinton speaking as well. let's get back to our guest bob

cusack, andy dean and bob beckel. we'll continue to look at this. so bob cusack, it seems sort of incredible a presidential candidate could be at war with a major cable network. how did we get here? >> it all started with that first fox news debate. and trump said he felt like he was being treated unfairly, especially by megyn kelly. when i went to new york and interviewed him. i said are you going to participate in that debate? he said probably. but that snarky comment from fox really is not unpredictable that trump woulday i'm not going to participate. before that statement came out, he was thinking about boycotting it, skipping it. and that really -- he just didn't like that. he doesn't like when go after him. he counterpunched by skipping the debate. remember, he is the clear front-runner. when you do something controversial, when you are the

front-runner, you can fall. however, he has thrived on controversy. he has been winning for six months. so even if he doesn't win ia, he's winning every other ste. but he has said, he's not downplayed expectations. he's exceeded them. i want to win iowa. >> stand by. i want to bring in philip biers. dylan got the statement and i was able to put it on the air. roger ailes had three brief conversations wuths donald trump barks pe about appearing at the debate. there were not multiple calls and then on and on and on. they are defending their journalistic standards. they'd stand by their journalist, meaning megyn kelly. this is a war of the titan. >> it's a war of the titans. it was definitely in fox news interest to try and bring donald trump into this debate up until the last minute. that's why roger ailes was on

the phone with him. you saw bill o'reilly trying to bring him back to the debate and do so on live television. now donald trump is using that as leverage against fox news coming out and saying ailes was begging me to come to this debate. the question now, we've got a split screen debate going on. the actual debate and this event donald trump is doing on the other side. what is going to garner more interest and how is that going to affect donald trump's voters and iowa caucusgoers. are they going to be mad at him or sort of champion his decision to stand up against fox news which he's branded as the establishment media. >> as we're listening here to the other candidates, it's interesting that you have two other candidates who are -- rick santorum didn't want to stand in front of the trump sign there, dylan. you have two other candidates there. one of their rivals' events.

hillary clinton campaigning. bill clinton out campaigning for her. bernie sanders out campaigning. let's read this statement and go through it with everyone as we look at mike huckabee. it says roger ailes had three brief conversations with donald trump about possibly appearing at the debate. there were not multiple calls. we acknowledged his concerns about a observation we made in order to quell the attacks on megyn kelly. he agreed to appear if fox news contributed $5 million to his charity. we said we could not engage in a quid pro quo nor could any money change hands for any reason. in the last 48 hours we kept two issues at the forefront. we'd never compromise our journalistic standards and we'd always stand by our journalist megyn kelly. we've accomplished those two goals, and we are pleased with the outcome. we're very proud to have her on stage as a debate moderator

alongside bret baier and chris wallace. this is a very interesting statement because just moments ago, brianna keilar had donald trump on his plane saying there were multiple calls and then this statement refute of some of what he said. >> each side is going to tell different versions of this story. they want to play this to their own benefit. the most important part of that statement is where fox news acknowledges that the initial statement it had made defending megyn kelly was sort of childish and maybe something they shouldn't have done. that's the statement where it suggested that donald trump, you know, donald trump is scared of megyn kelly. how is he going to deal with the ayatollah and vladimir putin. that acknowledgment that maub that was something they shouldn't have done. that was the catalyst for why donald trump claims that he decided to sit out this debate. it was an unprofessional move by a news network to issue such a

tongue in cheek statement about the republican front-runner. it's a very interesting acknowledgment from the fox news side. >> stand by. dylan biery ebyers, thanks for this statement to us. donald trump, hillary clinton and bernie sanders out stumping for the presidency. we're going to continue with our breaking news coverage of this coming up after this very quick break. this is sheldon whose long day setting up the news starts with minor arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve,

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back now with our breaking news coverage. donald trump speaking now. what he's doing is introducing some veterans who are going to speak and stand at the podium for a moment and talk about their trials and what they've gone through as veterans. as he does that, we're going to continue on with our conversation and then we'll dip in as soon as donald trump starts to speak about policy or other issues. i want to bring in bicari sells. i found it very interesting that

he has his rivals standing on stage with him in front of a big donald trump for president sign. >> well, they weren't just his rivals. these were the last two winners of the iowa caucus. this gave his ploy tonight some validation. not only did donald trump put his money where his mouth is, but he had rick santorum and mike huckabee get up there and erode all their valuables and principles so they'd have a camera following them. tonight is something we haven't seen before. those two weren't just some average joes. they have won here in iowa. and t is just amazing tv to sit back and watch. >> bob, erosion of character and values? >> well, look. they'll get more television coverage tonight than they've had in the entire iowa campaign. >> exactly. >> how are you going to be criticized for going to a

veterans event. >> andy dean, there is that photograph of, you know, rick santorum and mike huckabee standing in front of that trump sign in a campaign ad. >> it's a big deal. if we look at the two winners of the past two iowa caucuses, mike huckabee and rick santorum. these are big names of evangelicals, as is jerry falwell jr. who also endorsed trump. we're seeing a tidal wave. if anything, as bakari sellers said. even though he's a liberal, once in a while, he's correct. after iowa, if mike huckabee and rick santorum decide, hey, they collectively are only going to get about 5% to 7% in the polls after iowa if they drop out, who are they going to endorse? we've seen it tonight on the same stage at donald trump. this is a big deal. this is a big moment that we

just saw those two candidates with donald trump. that will help him not only in iowa but as we move on to new hampshire, south carolina and nevada. >> that's my question. >> don, if i -- >> let me get to bob real quick. do you think this will help him among evangelicals in iowa and beyond? >> i think it does. when you look at rick santorum and huckabee, a big part of the reason they won iowa in 2008 and 2012 is because they spoke that language to the evangelicals. they're showing up. they get good press because it's a veterans event. they decide to stand right beside donald trump, the front-runner, and talk with him and shake his hands. that does help him. you'd have to think that he's going to get some points from that. also, remember, donald trump supporters, they love him. they've seen him debate. he's a good debater. it's just those undecided. if you are trying to decide between cruz and trump, does this hurt him? we'll see. >> bakari, i have to get to a

break. go ahead. >> i was just going to say, even more importantly than them standing with trump tonight, it's a rebuke of ted cruz. huckabee and santorum went out of their way to say we really don't like ted cruz and we'll literally take donald trump over ted cruz in any race. >> that's a huge deal. >> we'll be right back. we're going to have lots of conversation. we've got an hour and ten minutes to go and longer here because my colleague anderson cooper will be at 11:00 p.m. and continue our live coverage. live from iowa, the center of the universe when it comes to politics. feels like election night almost. donald trump speaking at a veterans event. hillary clinton, the former president out speaking as well. and bernie sanders. after this break.all of it right don't go anywhere. what makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever?

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donald trump's event is not the only game in town. hillary clinton and bernie sanders both stumping in iowa. with me, bob cusack, dylan byers, bakari sellers and bob

beckel. fox news had two sets of questions just in case. do you buy into that, they had two sets? >> i don't know. people are giving fox a hard time about this but the fact is that trump gets up on that stage debate after debate after debate and insults people and then he gets insulted by such a statement. >> you were surprised by the statement? >> yes. i'm surprised trump took it the way he did and that questions whether he used it as an excuse or not. >> many people were surprised. they thought he was tone deaf. >> it's highly unusual to put out a satirical question, you have to ask how can they be fair. that was a good point point that

the trump campaign raised. trump can give it and sometimes when he takes it, he takes offense. >> i don't have the statement. can you put it up, it's something about the ayatollah, we learned from a secret back channel that the ayatollah and putin both intend to treat donald trump unfairly when they meet with him if he becomes president. and they have a nefarious source tells them that trump has his own secret plan to replace the cabinet with his twit are followers to see if he should even go to those meetings. >> the real issue is fox news, they think they're the 800-pound

gorilla, they think they're the star. i think donald trump is demonstrating strength and his supporters and american people a like someone who is going to demonstrate strength. >> i want to ask you before we get to the top of the hour. if you read any of the trades, "new york times" and other places today, they are claiming -- sources are claiming there is a sort of protracted war against megyn kelly going on at fox news by the trump campaign and that it's much deeper and much more protracted than we might know about in the public. what do you make of that? >> i talked to corey and hope, the two campaign managers and we never talked about megyn kelly until the last 72 hours. when she opened the debate on august 6 and she viciously

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