actually show up on tuesday to vote for trump. >> he's got a campaign manager who is from new hampshire. >> now the stakes are higher. he has to win. >> mr. he will catch fire. >> that's the big story. >> just hold on one moment. welcome to our special coverage of tonight's gop debate. joining me again our chief political analyst gloria borger and david axelrod.

the former senior advisor to mitt romney's 2012 campaign. it was a very big night for a couple of candidates and a bad night for others. let's get started with tonight's winners and losers. let's start with you, gloria. the winner. >> i didn't change my mind. i think marco did not have a great night. i thought he had a debate he lost with chris christie on his experience. i think the governors all did well. i think kasich, bush and christie did well. we'll have to see. >> david. >> i thought the big winner were people who had executive appearance. that included the governors as well as donald trump. i think the fact they're more

pragmatic than people in congress. both cruz and rubio. plays well to new hampshire voter. people are looking for answers. they want leaders who can get something done. we saw experience does matter in how you think about things. >> the loser. >> the loser was marco rubio. >> agreed. he's got something hanging over his head. this narrative about not being prepared. i think he's got to figure that out going forward. i thought trump kind of won by not losing. he didn't get in the middle of big fights. it was the moment with jeb around imminent domain. >> cruz was the winner in iowa. he isn't a big player in new

hampshire. like not being prepared to have his finger on the button. i thought he kind of wimped out on that. >> some you have have dogs in this fight. you're a donald trump supporter. let's go down the line here. winner, loser. >> i think the governors had a good night. for the first time i've heard at length, donald trump talked about his own executive experience which i think is propelling some of his support. one of ludsers, if i can say was ben carson. i think we're rapidly seeing this disappear. he's such a nice guy.

>> you're the first person mentioned his name. >> chris christie is the winner. >> he was in such complete control. i was wondering if he was the moderator. i don't think it will help his campaign because he was so vicious to marco rubio. i think there's some blood that spattered back. >> could be after tuesday he will be available to be the moderator. >> going on the attack, i pictured him as vp in a vise presidential debate. >> i think it was sort of a murder/suicide with chris christie. it's not going to help christie. >> rubio comes out of iowa in third place. he might as well have won. he had all this momentum going into new hampshire.

if he finishes ahead of kasich and jeb. he then owns the establishment lane. it becomes clearly a three-man race. rubio had a bad night for a bad debate. >> i think if we're going from first to worst, i would disagree that christie had a strong debate. i think he controlled the tone and tempo of the debate. he beat rubio on points with that head to head exchange that they had. carson was almost nonexistent. he's a nonfactor now. this may have been one of his last debates. have to get much stronger during the debate. i think he recovered nicely. i think ploem is a vemomentum i commodity. i don't know if he will continue to keep that. it could have stopped him now. that's one thing to be factor. to agree with something amanda said, chris christie will

probably be the most effective surrogate we have in going after hillary clinton in the general election. he's going to be around even if the campaign may end. >> it's interesting on this table it turned from rubio had a bad night and you all started to turn to at the end he got better. >> he did get better. >> how do you close the deal? >> we have governor kasich tells us how to close the deal. >> we have an army of people. we'll knock on every door in this state. i'm going to continue to do town halls. massive amounts of media. closing the deal is running through the tape. this was important tonight. not the only thing that matters. i think we had a good ninety. >> you feel pretty good about where you're sitting. if something was to change, where do you think you theed to finish to guarantee you will go onto south carolina? >> we'll be fine. we'll tell you on the tenth.

>> there's a lot of independents here. this is wide open election that could go to trump, bernie sanders or you. why p do you think they will turn out for you. what is different? >> people like that i've been positive. it paints a vision and hope and opportunity. >> you ever worry you'll get lost in the shuffle of republicans going at each other's throats on a stage like that? >> the last thing i want to do is be in the middle of going at each other's throats. i think tonight went well. i'm happy. so is everybody in our after debate party room. we're going and will have great night on tuesday. >> you think you have the big momentum in this state? >> i know we do.

it's driven by people. it's people who have a sense that things could be difference. if we do really well and get out of here with a strong finish, you'll be talking about this positive cam campaigning and politics works. >> one more question. you have done this once before. people might not remember it was a long time ago you ran for president. how much different does this time feel? >> i was just a kid back then. i talked to this lady for 15 minutes. she looked at her watch and said when do you think the candidate will get here? you can't even compare the two. this is an incredible experience. i want to say this, regardless of what happens, this has been a fantastic period of my life. it's been remarkable. i'm a happy man. we all are. on the bus, traveling around. we have a great time. new hampshire, i need you.

see you. >> all right. erin, you heard him there. he sounds very positive about his momentum in the state now. at a minimum, i think he seems pleased with this experience even if for some reason things don't go his way this new hampshire. >> very confident with his momentum. very confident. very confident about his momentum. >> i think their internal polls are showing them doing better than our polls do. i think they think they're in second place, perhaps. i don't know -- >> they definitely do. >> i interviewed them on friday night and he was categorical. >> same thing. he's the happy warrior. you saw that all night tonight. kasich's appeal is that he's not criticizing anyone.

people say that's because he wants to be vice president. he said i would be the worst vice president in history. i don't want to be that guy. >> he says in interviews, he goes no one knows who i am. when they get to know who i am, if i get a little name recognition i'll build on it. perhaps moments like he had tonight on immigration may help. let me play that. >> americans would support a plan like there. i think congress woud pass a plan to finish the boarder, pay a fine, a path to legalization and not citizenship. we have got to get this done. within the first 100 days that i am president, i will put that proposal to the congress and i will tell you as a former congressman and an executive in ohio, i can promise you i believe you'll get the votes to pass that and we can move on with that issue an protect our border. >> how effective was he?

>> what does it yield in party that may not be in sync with him. there may be votes to finish well in new hampshire but where would he go after that. everything he says would play well with independent voters in a general election. the tenor of his campaign would play well but it doesn't seem to match the mood of the republican party. >> i wrote a book criticizing the republican party. having said that john kasich is trying to win by criticizing the republican party. it's the only hope the guy has. >> because of the independence they're able to vote. >> there's some people trying to make kasich happen.

he extended medicaid under obama care. that's a no. nobody likes that. >> does anybody think john kasich, if he does come out of new hampshire really, really surge, does he have a future after that? >> he says, south carolina is not his natural terrain. michigan, you know, maybe. the south is not natural terrain. >> given the expectations game going into this, if he comes out ahead of rubio, number two, it will scramble the race. he will become the alternative. he's got a chance. a few weeks ago he was frustrated and angry. it was very uncomfortable to

watch him. the trump thing just disturbed him. >> he is also the governor of ohio, which is a crucial state for the republican party. >> very successful governor. he's done well with african-american voters. >> what it will also do is prevent clarification. the establish m republicment re are eager to have candidates around whom everyone can rally. what it's going to create is kind of continued glut where certainly rubio will go forward. i don't know if ib else will. it's not going to be as neat as the establishment would like. >> if kasich beats rubio in new hampshire, it's worse for him than kasich in the end.

>> what about jeb bush. you talk about coming out in a crowded establishment. what about jeb bush. is think any scenario where jeb bush is not in this race after new hampshire? >> i think he can do better. enough to survive and go on. >> people start looking lez of the polls and more at resources. somebody like jeb bush comes out and says i've got the resources to continue through. all those march 1 through march 15 contests on the calendar, john kasich will be forced to wake up wednesday morning and try to raise $10 million. does he have the ability to do that? that will be the first big test. i think david's right. this would prevent a consolidation of the establishment. >> if rubio comes ahead of the establishment lane then i think -- >> hold on one moment. we have donald trump in the spin room. >> we're live on cnn.

you did not lob any attack at your opponents tonight. you were much more disciplined. are you trying to show that side the the voters? >> i was very happy with my performance. they're all saying i won the debate. i'm happy. i had to do well tonight. it was a lot of pressure tonight. >> why did you have to do well? >> i have a lead, i guess. if polls mean anything, i have a lead. i don't know that i had to be outstanding but they're saying i really did well. >> you got a bit burnth by the polls in iowa. >> i did. i got burned by the fact that ben carson lost another votes. if those votes didn't go over to another person, i would have won. >> in new hampshire does it feel like you have double digit points lead or does it feel

close? >> i don't know. it's easier to poll new hampshire because you don't have the caucus system. it's very complex and very tricky. you saw that by what happened to ben. >> you said after iowa you guys could have done better with a stronger ground came? how confident are you that it's better? >> i think the debate tonight is more important than the ground game. in new hampshire the people they like you and they're going to go out and vote and go back. it's no so much of a ground game. i think it's good but i really think the debate tonight was more important than the ground game. >> are you surprised more of your rivals didn't go up against you. jeb is the only one that tried the take you on on stage? >> ted cruz, they said did you

say that to his face. he didn't want to do that. i appreciated he didn't do that. jeb tried to go but jeb is easy. >> what was going through your mind when you saw marco rubio give the same response as chris christie was criticizing him as being too scripted. >> he was. . i think it's the exact opposite about president obama. it was a great debate. people really enjoyed the debate. it's getting high reviews. it's an honor for me to have been involved. >> do you look at marco as your closest competitor? >> i don't know. i look at them all. they're all very smart people. they're all good people. >> do you think that's something voters listening to that they care about? do you think that could affect you here? >> it's a very important thing for a country. you wouldn't have highways or schools or bridges.

you wouldn't have airports or anything. when the government takes your property, they pay you a fortune for it. >> one ocht issues they put marco rubio on the spot was about his view on abortion. do you think that's too extreme of a stance in a republican ri ma primary? >> he said no exceptions. i do believe in the three. >> do you think it's too extreme? >> he said he doesn't believe in the exceptions and he said maybe he does. i'm not sure what his answer was because he answered it in two ways. he sort of indicated he believe in the exception. ronald reagan believed in

pro-life. he was pro-life with the exceptions. >> in the wake of the loss in iowa, have you made any changes to your staff? >> it wasn't a loss. it was second. 17 people started. it's the first election i was ever involved in. i came in second and probably came in first. >> how do you probably come in first? >> take way the ben carson that you people sort of slipped up on. i'm not blaming cnn. cn thr nrks cnn. cnn did not report that ben carson was suspended. >> you take away those thousands of votes. one of the big shows on fox did a study and they said if that doesn't happen, trump probably wins. >> you think you would have won if the cruz campaign had not done that. >> four votes per precinct. i don't care about that anymore. i'm totally into something else. you know what it is, new hampshire. i hope you had a good time. >> does it look like sour grapes

that you keep -- >> he wants to get past iowa. he wants to move onto new hampshire. he's being a little more careful in his expectations for st state but clearly a state he would like to win. >> making that very clear and a much calmer donald trump in that interview with sarah. he said i'm very good at real estate. >> i think he understand what is new hampshire wants and the kinder, gentler, donald trump. the donald trump -- >> water boarding. >> i was just going to say that. >> he said he would do much more than water boarding. >> and his argument with jeb. i think trump understands that he want to keep a lead. if you want to keep your lead, you just don't want to do anything that's going to upset people one way or another. >> we're take a brief break and when we come back we'll do fact check of one of the most

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voters telling them that ben carson dropped out the race saying cnn reported this. it was important to switch their votes from tben carson to ted cruz. take a look at what he said when questioned about that at tonight's debate. >> dr. carson, thank you. senator cruz you have said that dr. carson and his wiefe have become friends of yours. >> ben is a good and honorable candidate. when this transpired i apologized to him then and i do so now. ben, i'm sorry. let me tell you the facts of what occurred for those interested in knowing. on monday night about 6:30 p.m., cnn reported that ben was not going from iowa to new hampshire or south carolina.

rather he was taking a break from campaigning. they reported that on television. cnn's political anchors said it was highly unusual and significant. at the time i was at the caucuses i was getting ready to speak. i called ben that evening. i didn't reach him that evening. i reached him the next day and apologized. cn thrks didn't correct that story until 9:15 that night.

that's what cnn was reporting. >> senator cruz, thank you. >> in fact, the timeline indicates that initial tweet from cnn was followed by another one within one minute that clarified that i was not dropping out. what happened to that one, it's unclear. the bottom line is we can see what happened. everybody can see what happened. you can make your own judgment. >> dr. carson, thank you. >> all right. let's give you the facts. what senator cruz said is false.

cnn never corrected the reporting because cnn never had anything to correct. the cruz campaign had nothing to do with cnn's reporting. the fact senator cruz continues to mislead the voters about this is astonishing. that's the statement out from cnn moments ago. tom, i've interviewed the co-chair. what cruz said is false. tell us exactly what happened. >> at no time did cnn say that ben carson was dropping out of this race. not online, not on air, not anywhere. for ted cruz to suggest that c nrn cnnn did -- cnn did was a flat out lie. this is what was reported. he tweeted ben carson will likely speak at his victory

party in iowa before caucus results are in so he can catch a flight. then he added carson won't go to new hampshire, south carolina but will head home to florida for some r and r. he'll be in d.c. thursday for the national prayer breakfast. ben carson's campaign says he plans to stay in the race beyond iowa no matter what the results are tonight. all three of those tweets came out in less than two minutes before the caucuses even opened. 45 minutes later, moody hit it again by saying ben carson is just making a brief stop at home in florida tonight and campaign says he'll be back on the campaign trial by wednesday. our on air people came on and talked about this. they said it's an unusual move by ben carson or any presidential candidate to not go directly to new hampshire. in no way, shape or form did they say that ben carson was

dropping out. executives had been over this campaign. the campaign has been called out for the dishonest handling of this. ted cruz stood on stage and suggested that somehow this is based on what ccnn did and all cnn did was report the facts. his claim is false. it was false from the get-go and it remains false. aside from that you can find out many of the other things we checked in tonight's debate goi bigoing -- by going to cnn.com/reality check. >> explain how this could have happened. why does he not say this is wro wrong? >> he did apologize.

dr. carson accepted the apology. if i saw that cnn report that dr. carson was in the going to new hampshire or south carolina, i would have alerted the iowa caucus goers. when you tell caucus goers that, you can say those same words and a lot of people will infer he's dropping out. i think cruz is going above and beyond by saying i should have clarified. he could be bashing ben carson and saying you caused this mess. he's just trying to move on. the apology has been accepted. i think carson's campaign is struggling along. the facts will bear themselves out. >> he wanted to get carson's voters. he may not be bashing him on the debate stage but the campaign was saying this guy is not serious.

sdplp there was an >> there was an e-mail that went out from the cruz campaign and it said tell your caucus goers to change their vote from carson to cruz. it was directly said. >> this is what i said. when i was watching in the green room, dr. carson is leaving iowa before the caucus is over to get change of clothes. that's a sign of abandonment. that's what i thought. i think it's likely what other people thought. >> i remember we were sitting in the room watching this at the exact same time and i got the exact same impression from the report. the report that ben carson was leaving the state and wasn't going to be coming back to the campaign trail, that was the type of thing. the other thing is in a campaign, the enormous pressure you're onto make sure your voters are as informed as possible, you don't think like a journalist when you're on a campaign. you think let's get this information out fast. they probably didn't put as much premium on whether it was correct.

>> how dirty was it? >> well, i'm from chicago. i thoroughly agree with what was said. i think it's a signal of weakness. this contest. ted cruz stood on the platform as tom foreman said tonight and continued to suggest that cnn had reported. >> behind the scenes there's been bad blood between the carson campaign and the cruz campaign for a while. this is out in the open now. talking to people who are close to the carson campaign they very much want to stay in this race. they believe they can win this race, but they also think they

might be a spoiler for cruz. if you look at iowa he got 9% of the vote. >> he did. >> he's trying to have it both ways. he's apologizing and saying he didn't do anything wrong. it's one or the other. if you didn't do anything wrong why are you apologizing. >> you put this in the context of the negative. look what happened to john mccain in south carolina not that long ago. the grand scheme of things this is a campaign being overzealous, aggressive. exactly what you want tocnn thi story. that's what i want my campaign to do if i'm running for president. >> why is he apologizing? he apologizing because he doesn't want the evangelical

voters in south carolina and elsewhere to flake from carson or go to trump or rubio because they think he did something bad to their man. that's why he's apologizing. >> his christian values. if you think about the way carson has talked about this he's quoting scriptures when he had a press conference. >> disappointed. >> carson hasn't gone on the attack. it tells you a lot about carson as a candidate. carson hasn't said, he sort of at some press conference said somebody should be fired or something like that. he hasn't really gone after cruz for this and accused him of dirty tricks or anything like that. it's not carson's nature. >> trump has.

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out front. i want to go to the spin room. our sarah murphy is there with the communications director of the rubio campaign. what does he have to say about what a night this was for marco rubio? >> he's getting lot of attention because of that moment right near the beginning when he was going head to head against chris christie. he repeated himself a couple of times. how do you think voters should take that moment? >> chris christie gave him four opportunities to take barack obama. i think it's what republicans want. i can tell you how voters at home and viewers at home are responding. we raised over three times as much people going to marco rubio.com and donating to our campaign three times as much. people are responding in a positive way to marco's

performance. >> it's about an audition to actually be president. part of being president is to think on your feet. what would you say to people who are second guessing whether he's equipped to do that. >> look at his bangick and fort about what he would do on isis. he explained it in depth. i think he proved that he understands the threats facing america in the 21st century better than any candidate on the stage. >> marco came out of this a bit bloo bloody. >> the governors are on the ropes. if they don't have a huge performance on tuesday night they will have to exit. they said they will have a big moment of their own. they didn't knock out marco and the big moments of the debate via the national security

exchange, the life moment. >> he supports life of the mother. not for exceptions of rape or incest. it will be to the broader electorate. how does he sell that in place like new hampshire where there are a lot of independent voters who might not be in agreement with him. >> it's a human rights issue. he makes no apologies for being 100% pro-life. if congress sent him a bill that limited abortions accept in those instances, he would sign it because it saves lives. he does not support those exceptions. he explained why and it was the biggest moment of debate. >> is second place still good enough for you guys in new hampshire. >> our goal has to come in the to tier. i think it's the governors, there's a lot of candidates including the governor on the

stage tonight who not only had a knock out of marco but they have to win or have to really exceed expectations on tuesday in order to continue their campaigns. i don't think that changed. >> thanks very much. we appreciate it. >> you heard there alex dependidependfendsing marco's debates. we'll see in a couple of days if the voters agree. >> our panel did not agree. you were on the side that the governors did well. >> you've heard a bit of the spin. >> right. alex is doing his job and he came into this spin room room.

i remember going to the spin room. we should explain the spin room is the someplace where you try to persuade people they didn't see what they just saw. i tried to do that after the denver debate in 2012. he did the best that he could but who knows whether they raised three times as much. >> they'll tell us tomorrow. >> the verdict on social media, at least among the media was very harsh on him tonight, not just at this table. i think they know that and they sent him out there to put a bit of good news into the environment. >> let me play for everyone who is joining, a big part of the reason as to why people thought tonight was such a bad night for marco rubio. >> if politics becomes and the presidency becomes about electing the people who have been in congress or senate the longest, we should al rally around joe biden. he's been around a thousand years. he's passed hundreds of bills. i don't think any of us think joe biden should be president of the united states. let's dispel once and for all with this fiction that barack obama doesn't nope what he's

doing. he knows exactly what he's doing. >> i like marco rubio. he's a smart person and a good guy. he does not have the experience to be president of the united states and make these decisions. we've watched it happen, everybody. for the last sempb yeaven years people of new hampshire are smart. >> i would ask this, let's dispel with this fiction that barack obama doesn't know what he's doing. he knows exactly what he's doing. your state got hit by a massive snowstorm. they had to shame you to go back. you stayed there for 36 hours and you left and came back to campaign. >> this notion that barack obama doesn't know what he's doing. there it is. the memorized 25 second speech. there it is. >> let me respond to that question. >> to the gang of eight bill. >> anyone that believes that barack obama isn't doing what he's doing on purpose doesn't

understand what we're dealing with here. >> kevin, what happened there? there was the moment when chris christie goes there he goes again was funny. watching this happen was a little painful. i think a lot of people said what's happening. >> i'm a big proponent of message discipline in a debate. i think the problem is he took it a little bit too far. one of charges that so many people have had of him is he's scripted. i think that's sort of played into that criticism. i think another thing really happened here is really important. marco rubio because he has no momentum has this target on his back. everybody in this campaign is focused on him high pressure he has to show he can take a punch. he did take a punch early on and he recovered from it. the big question is tomorrow, the day after. does he continue the show he learned a lot from this -- from losing that moment and that he can get back on offense. >> he's been trying to show the whole point is he has the experience and the ability.

he was rattled tonight. he went to that line because he might have lost his train of thought but that's the line he remembered and went to. >> he didn't look like a president tonight. he looked like someone preparing to be president some time in his life. you came out of it thinking i'm not sure he's ready. i'm not sure he has be poise and the understanding and the sense of who he is. more importantly, he's larger figure. that did not emerge tonight. he emerged as someone easily rattled and tightly wound. >> does this change the momentum. >> i think rubio is better on the attack. i don't know what this insul was the joe biden. he's been around a thousands years. it's sort of like a kid saying

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welcome back to our special coverage of the post-debate here on the special edition of out front. in the closing statement for donald trump he slammed ted cruz. listen in. >> i will always stand with the american people. >> mr. trump. >> that's because he got ben carson's votes, by the way. we won't say nothing. >> all right. a little barb there. you're chuckling a bit. let me ask you, what was the booing at. was the booing at donald trump?

was the booing at what cruz did to carson? >> it was to donald trump. these audiences are not representative of the new hampshire electorate. we should not treat them as a focus group. rand paul was probably getting the most applause in any of the debates and he's not even here anymore. i think they are probably more antagonistic against donald trump. >> let's turn to my analyst. who was the booing at? >> i think he was smart to point out it was the donor class sitting out there and these are not his natural constituents. he was very clever. >> it's almost similar to what sanders is doing. he's powered by the people and trump is powered by himself. >> i think when you get booed, it doesn't help.

for the general audience, you don't want to get booed. >> generally, these republican audiences don't like candidates going after each other. at the beginning when chris christie was roughing up rubio, he didn't get that kind of reaction. rubio did when he responded and attacked chris christie over the snowstorm. i'm trying to figure out why that is. >> why do you think that was? why is it that marco rubio got the boo but chris christie didn't? was there some latent desire to see marco get hit. >> definitely pro-snowstorm in new hampshire. i would say the fact that people can boo or applaud changes the dynamic so much. there's some debates where you weren't allowed to applaud. this changes the perception. there was something up with rubio tonight. it was almost like there was a paul cast -- a cloud that followed him around tonight.

he looked pasty. it was not rubio's night. the crowd, i have no idea, but they were not on his side. >> i think he got bit of boos people like us we're groaning when he kept saying the same answer. as a speech writer the fact someone would say look forward the fact he kept returning to barack obama who is a lame duck president was disappointing to me. >> who do you think will come in first in new hampshire? >> i think right now you'd have to say trump. >> david. >> i think trump. big question is, who comes -- can anybody get close to him? >> margins matter. >> trump, i think so. what the margins going to be, who comes in second? does kasich have a surge? >> is this being taped? we've had a problem with forecasting trump this year. i think he should win.

i think the clock will run out and he will win on tuesday. >> if he does not win then what? >> all bets are off. all bets are off. if he doesn't win, we're going to say who came in second. if it's rubio. >> i think you have a cruz, probably a cruz-rubio race. >> it will be exciting. >> it will be a very, very exciting thing. >> if trump wins narrowly, that's a big story. >> thank you for watching our special coverage. anthony bourdain is next. that'sd alka seltzer plus day night liquid gels. it's tough cold symptom fighters provide powerful relief. relief that helps you sleep at night and gets you back out there during the day. [ deep breath ] [ truck horn ] alka-seltzer plus day night liquid gels.

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there's nothing like the north atlantic. it is majestic. yeah, i love the beach. pretty much had my first everything on a beach. you name it, the first time i did it, beach. i was miserable in love, happy in love, alternately as only a 17-year-old could be, and this is where i lived a very happy summer in the early 1970s, and that is my room on the left. it is an amazing spot if you think about it a bunch of knuckle he knuckleheads working as dishwashers and waiters and pizza servers to live on a beach like this. and you know, happier and stupider times. you know, i can still hear the play lists, strawberry let, and brothers johnson and if you put in marvin gaye right now, i'd burst into tears. what do you do? you are young and you go to the beach and you get laid and you get high. it was here all of the way out

to the tip of cape cod, provincetown, massachusetts, where the pilgrims first landed, and it is where i first landed. 1972, washed in a town full of orange sunshine and a few friend, and provincetown, a wonderland of tolerance and long time tradition of acceptance of the artists, the writers and the badly behave and the gay, and it was paradise. the joy that can only come with the absolute certainty that you are invincible, and none of the choices that you will make will have any repercussions or effects of the later life, because you don't think of those things. i did mont what i would be, and i certainly didn't think that i would be a cook. i didn't know what which was going to be. i was just hanging out in a but beautiful place. golden time, and i look back in those memories and i love them.

john waters, first love and me. this guy, johnny, he was sort of the central figure in all of our live lives. >> my name is john yingling, and this is the spirit of pizza and it has been here since 1971. this town is everything to me. provincetown is a really special place where where people can be themselves. we all did drugs and acted young and crazy, and tony, he is probably a little wild as some and not as wild as others, but he is a a guy i a always liked. >> and you let me sleep on top of the walk-in. >> i remember that. >> and i cannot tell you how frequently i dream about this eze ezspiritus pete sashgs and i can't tell you how long i walk down this landscape, and we are still here and living in hope.

unbloo unbelievable. >> many of the old places in p-town are gone. but the lobster pot is still going strong all of these years la later. and still has what i want and need, the essentials. my friends worked in the kitchen here starting the tradition among my set that cooking work was noble toil. at that point i never intended a career as a e chef. >> oh, it is nice to be a cook. >> i was getting to that. oh, yes. >> and this is homemade portuguese kale soup made on the premises. >> it has been a long time, thank you. >> portuguese soup, the p-town version of the kaldo verde and just what i remember, kale, potatoes, kidney beans and linguiza.

i loved it, the bread crumbs and scallops and crab and sherry and red sauce. i had not been working for a while and just scarfing for everybody else. and nancy pool comes over and says, our dishwasher has not showed up today, and you are the new dishwasher, and i put on the apron and i did not take it off for 30 years. and hanging out on the beach until 2:00, 3:00. >> yeah, it was fun. >> and rolling into work, and work all night, and drinking, getting high, and drilling out food. you have all of the food that you wanted, a all of the liquor that you wanted. >> all of the sex that you wanted. >> true. >> and it was fun. >> and you were still an essential part of the economy. >> it was a lot of fun. believe me. i remember. >> the flagship, it is where my cooking career started and where i started to wash dishes and having pretensions of culinary grandeur.

and who else got the live like that in the time? you had to sort of be in a band, and here we were, we were dishwashers. >> well, you get older, and you have is a little bit more sense and you realize that you have is to pace yourself a little bit. otherwise we would not be e here. >> many of the friends would be dead from those days. >> many of my friends are dead, yeah. >> all right! [ applause ] >> keep drinking. keep drink iing. >> thank you, tony. >> this place has been here forever. it used to be in the backroom. >> it is still there. sfland it is all falling into place again. >> yeah, well, it is not that much different. >> it is early spring, but come memorial day, it gets crazy around here, and it does not stop until labor day. provincetown was always ga gay-friendly in my time and way, way before my time, and this place known as the atlantic house known for visitors and others known as the a-house is america's oldest operating gay

b bar. everybody has come through these doors so to speak, the most notably naked and frolicking tennessee williams. >> did the floors shake? >> no, everybody got seasick and started tripping, and now that it is even they say, can i have a cocktail to get my sea legs ba back. >> oh, really? >> yeah. >> and april cabral owns the joint now, and taking over for his father, and reggie ca bshbr and a forward-thinking dude if ever there was one. >> it was built in 1778. >> how long did you own it? >> since that time. in those time, my father had billie holliday and ella fitzgerald and all of the big names. >> how has the town changed? >> tremendously. gay and lez lifestyle is much more accepted. >> when i was here, i was here at the pleasure of somebody else which is the opposite of

everywhere outside of here at that time. >> yes. >> and this is largely a catholic portuguese conservative mission community, but it is also known as hell town. >> yes, that is where the puritans sent the rejects right out here. >> yes, farther out. >> yes. and that is not kidding. provincetown always had the mixture really of the bohemian people, and the fishermen, and the pirates and the writers and the drunks -- all of that. >> and anybody with a lifestyle outside of the mainstream was here. >> whatever floats your boat. it is all good. ♪ oh how i wish we could both go back to that summer ♪ ne. i swear i saw it swallow seven people. seven. i just wish one of those people could have been mrs. johnson. [dog bark] trust me, we're dealing with a higher intelligence here. ♪

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this community, were fishing families. most of them are now gone. and we're really like a minority. used to be a fishing community with a homosexual problem. now it's a homosexual community with a fishing problem. >> the first portuguese fishermen arrived here in 1840. the main families created a community built around fishing, and this town lived off that industry well into the 20th century. it persisted even when i was here, keeping up the blessing of old catholic fishing traditions like the fleet. these days however, there are fewer and fewer boats to bless. >> my name's scott roe, i'm a commercial fishermen, sea scallops, fourth generation. it was cool back then, started when i was a. 70 and 80 boats here, five or six feet now, now it's just down to like seven or eight. now i'm proud of my heritage and i would never do anything else. this is my office, man, look at it.

i'm going to do this until i can't move anymore. >> we were all on the town like clockwork, 2:30, 3:00 in the morning, it's quiet, the town's been ripped up all night long. we come down here, hit the water. what could be better? >> good time to be here, and nice weather today. >> yeah, pretty nice day. >> a little breezy. >> might be a little nautical. a little bit. >> i'm sure i'll be fine, i've watched "the deadliest catch." >> are you ready? >> i'm ready. >> time to press the fun button. ♪ >> clear. all clear. used to be this was the best thing in the world. we were like the greatest thing about fishing, you were kind of like a cowboy, like a pioneer, you could go out, and as hard as

you could push, competition was welcomed. we were fiercely independent. independence is like little by little by little taken away. >> is there a limited number of stuff out there? >> well, there's a total allowable catch, we're on a allowable catch, we're on a 600-pound trip right now. >> and the payout ain't much. do the math, a good day brings in say 9,000 bucks, from that 9,000, take away 3,000 for the lease, 1,000 for fuel, and split the remainder amongst the crew. and on top of that, fishing is a just a crap shoot. many days, there's simply nothing to catch. >> so why the [ bleep ] are you doing this? >> we love to do it. like for us we say it all turns to it when we come around the break water. once we get out to there, and we feel like we're at home. >> like i said, it ain't easy. today, according to bo, scott, and zeb, this was just a little breeze.

>> how rough does it have to be when you look out and say i'm not going out today? >> it starts like blowing like 30, 35. >> we like days like this because the competition stays in. >> really? >> my dad used to say when you're dry, you're not making any money. we're fishing. >> so it's not going to snap until flying back and cut your head off. >> not too often. no. >> i hate when that happens. >> yeah, it's a bummer. the summer, you'd be able to smell the coconut, another big trick we have. because now the guys decided they like this part of the beach, right. so they're all out here, nude sunbathing. so i pick up my glasses and i tell them, wow, look at the breasts on that girl. and you give it to them and they see something they weren't expecting to see. works every time though.

>> i can't believe you didn't cook nothing. >> i can't believe it, man. >> what? >> got anthony bourdain on deck and we don't have nothing to eat. >> the best part of it, the anticipation to see what's in there. >> oh, every time. i'm like i just can't wait. you're like looking and you're like what's going to be in there? what's going to be in there? sometimes it's a disappointment. but a lot of times it's disappointment. >> how many did we get? >> a few. >> is there? >> all right, we're out. that's why it's fishing and not catching. >> yep. >> it'll taste all that much better. ♪

>> this place was, has been here forever when i rolled into town. how long has that place been open? >> for a long time. >> i think this is the only place in town that's unchanged. >> yeah, how long do i have to drink here to get my face up there? 40 years? >> couple more years. >> back when i worked in town for fishermen, there was the folks cookies, tap room, and this place, the old colony. of the three, it's the only one left. >> yeah, baby. >> oh wait a minute, i recognize these. you guys eat scallops. >> yeah. >> as brawny, hard-working men of the sea, we deserve these beers, these finest of all oysters, the well fleets. >> wow. >> finest oysters known to man. >> these are fantastic. wow, what a treat. is there going to be a next generation of fishermen in the family? what happens after you guys? >> the next generation of fishermen that are like coming on to our boats, they're opportunists for the income, it's not for the love of being on the water. >> this is the end.

the fishing is going to die. cheers. >> all right. thank you, guys. >> cheers. >> this is going to end badly. >> cheers. >> cheers. ♪ >> this is a nice house. man, it just feels like i never left in a lot of ways. but, of course, it's 40 years later almost. that was the sodom and gomorrah by the sea over there, a big candy store for a horny, stupid, 17-year-old with a taste for chemicals. you know, i was an angry young man. what the hell was so i angry about? it came as a rude surprise when i turned 30 because i figured i'd be dead by then. i was still quite some time away from my first bag of heroin, but, you know, in a lot of ways it was a foregone conclusion, my whole life was leading up to

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unexpected has happened. >> new england is a new mecca for heroin use. >> emergency room admissions, law enforcement areas dealing with crimes being committed that never happened before. >> detectives are working around dealers are making a killing. >> not new york or baltimore or l.a. or chicago, but rural towns like this one are now statistically ground zero for the heroin epidemic. what the hell happened? >> the next couple years, if this heroin use trend continues to grow, it may be beyond getting a handle on. i'm a detective with the greenfield police department here, and my focus is undercover and narcotic investigations. >> this is a well-known area to us and very active. >> heroin use in the past year,

its just increased to a level i've never seen any other drug come into an area. people are all going to be affected. it hasn't topped out yet. >> someone you've known, someone you went to school with, someone you work with. >> so, sunny crocket gets a ferrari. what's wrong with this picture? >> tried the lexus but they said no way. >> it's been reported in the national papers there's been explosion of heroin use, heroin-related crimes, overdoses, how does that happen? >> i think once this area realized we had a heroin problem, we were already behind it trying to play catch-up. we are on the 91 corridor. route 91 has been dubbed the heroin highway at this point. it's a widely used road to go north and south. there's opportunists here and for low money input, they're getting a high profit. that's the typical heroin packages. bundles of ten, 50 bags here.

>> 60 to 80 bucks for ten. >> they can charge what they want. it's supply and demand. >> one dose for most people? >> multiple bags, anywhere from three to five backs at a same time. up to 30 bags a day. and the current economics of the town, i am the only one assigned to the narcotics position. >> how many heroin addicts are walking the streets of greenfield right now? >> i'm going to say we're in the high hundreds. >> wow. >> we're in the high hundreds. >> high hundreds. >> it's hitting every age group, economic household, it's out there. >> we don't have crips and bloods taking over motel rooms, the person selling you dope more likely to be familiar than a stranger? >> we are going to meet a past distributor that i have known for several years.

>> we meet carmen, as we'll call her, a powerful local heroin dealer turned paid confidential police informant out in the woods. >> how'd you get into the business initially? >> i needed the money. i needed to support my family. couldn't get a job. >> how easy was it to get into the dope business? >> not hard at all because it's cheap. >> was there money in it? >> oh, hell, yeah. yeah, oh, yeah. >> it's like mayberry out here from looking around. who's using heroin now? i mean -- >> kids. >> kids. >> kids. >> today's heroin epidemic is different than the one that raged through america in the 1970s in a few significant ways. back then, heroin was mostly seen as a poor people problem, somebody else's problem. the sort of thing that musicians and criminals got into, marginal people, far from the white main streets of mayberry, usa. what those people did to themselves, well, it was unfortunate, but not our problem. until somebody broke into your house. today, it's absolutely the reverse. the new addicts are almost entirely white, middle class,

and from towns and areas like this. how do you think you make it better? >> you don't. >> whoa. you don't? >> no, there's going to be more robberies, there's going to be more killings. take one person off the street here, two more come in. >> at peak how many customers do you have? >> practically all of greenfield. >> what happened? how did the kid next door, along with mom, pop, and grandma too become users of hard-core illegal narcotic drugs, the worst drug with the worst reputation? ♪ ♪ i'll take you there well, maybe start here. >> once you found the right doctor and have told him or her about your pain, don't be afraid to take what they give you. often it will be an opioid medication. >> here's a 1996 promotional video from the fine folks at perdue pharmaceuticals. sent around to doctors, it

encouraged them to prescribe the latest, newest, most wonderful drug for long-term pain management, oxycontin. >> some patients may be afraid of taking opiods because they're perceived as too strong or addictive. but that is far from actual fact. less than 1% of patients taking opioids actually become addicted. >> sales of oxycon titint initiy and falsely proclaimed it as not addicti addictive, and absolutely skyrocketed from $45 million in 1996 to $3.1 billion in 2010. that same year, perdue tweaked the way that we're making oxy in an attempt to, they said, limit its addictive qualities. finally the government and law enforcement took a harsh look at

the drug and it became much harder to get legally which sucked for the thousands and thousands who by now had a serious habit. >> i am ruth, a family physician in greenfield, massachusetts, and i grew up here. my dad was actually a small town doctor out here. i'm a total generalist, but for the last four, four and a half years, a larger part of my practice has been focused on addiction to opiates. >> i got put on pain medication. then when they started disappearing, everybody else is doing it. >> the heroin? >> yeah. i can get a bag of heroin easier than i can get a joint. >> once they start, they just slip down that rabbit hole and, you know, maybe they make it out. that's our goal is to get them out and to live healthy again. we've really in our own way created this mess that we're in now. ♪ >> in downtown greenfield, the people's pint, an eco-conscious, local pub that brews its own beer, uses only farm fresh ingredients and composts its own ingredients. it's where i meet up with dr.

poti for dinner. i guess my first question is who is doing dope? >> everybody starts with the pills. there's nobody that goes from marijuana to heroin. there's an in between step. always pills, it's pills that people get from their doctor. from me. particularly the young people. had an injury, a sports-related injury, had their wisdom teeth out, and they felt awesome on the drug, and they were like how can i get more of that? after three to six months of looking for more, they couldn't find it, and then they jumped. >> is it the big pharmaceuticals fault? doctors fault? who's fault is it? >> it's complicated. i'm not going to say there's one entity here that's responsible, but there was a lot of money to be made by promoting the treatment of pain to the highest level. big pharma made a lot of money on this. and i was taught in residency, you give people as much pain medicine as they need. you get them out of pain, we'll judge your hospital, emergency room based on your pain scores. that's how we were taught. and we were also told that they're not all that addictive.

we started handing out pills like crazy. 100 million americans have chronic pain. so, we did a disservice as doctors and as prescribers like we took data that was [ bleep ], and then we went forth with it and said prescribe it to everyone, they won't get addicted. guess what, we didn't know what we were doing. then, woosh, it's gone. i swear i saw it swallow seven people. seven. i just wish one of those people could have been mrs. johnson. [dog bark] trust me, we're dealing with a higher intelligence here. ♪ the all-new audi q7 is here. ♪

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a few miles down the road from greenfield is shellburn falls, the good old days that everybody used to talk about when i was a kid. sundays, church and picnics. saturday nights, sox games, beer, and bowling. the shellburn falls bowling

alley is where time seems anyway to have stopped. first opened in 1906, this is the second oldest bowling alley in america. dedicated to old school new england-style candle pin bowling. the holy rollers, a crowd of septuagenarians who grew up in shellburn and plan this is a reasonable expectation to kick my [ bleep ]. they've been playing here since the '50s. >> i was never allowed to come near the bowling alley. this was my aunt did not think this was a good idea. >> oh, man. it's a tiny little ball. this looks really hard. [ cheering ] >> it's very different, shellburn falls. i grew up here. very different. people don't know each other as well as everyone used to know each other. >> when i grew up in greenfield,

everybody had jobs. i worked from the time i was 13. if i had to go back there, now, i don't believe in drugs, i don't have anything to do with them, but what choice would i have? stand on the corner, i would probably get into a business. what's a good business? well-paying business? i'm sorry. that's where we are. ♪ >> yes, it used to be a very different world towns like this one. and there were many. but like everywhere else, it seems the mills, the factories closed down, and with them a certain kind of social contract with the people who worked there. >> my name is ed gregory, originally from terrence falls, born and brought up here, born in 1945. my father was an employee of the strathmore mill, as was my grandfather. >> during the hay day, there

were three paper mills, cotton mill, a silk mill, a foundry, a beehive of activity here. >> back then, a company town like this, the company actually took care of you. they built and provided homes for their employees. schools, the river provided energy. the company provided nearly everything else. >> the heyday is gone, and people are definitely struggling to find work. the town just kind of died during the '80s. >> when the folks came to work, they were immigrants -- >> attracted by the manufacturing here. >> correct. made it a possibility of owning a home in a real decent part of the county here. ♪ >> so my father was here, a millwright, a millwright's job is a jack of all trades if you will. if there was something to be repaired. >> you could work in a mill and live in a nice home, send your kids to school, make a living all on a mill salary. >> you bet. >> it's unthinkable now. what happened to the business? >> things are going to other countries, but not coming back to the united states.

>> this time it's redundant? >> correct. >> again and again all over the country, i keep running into situations like this where industry has died or fled or simply relocated. i meet people like charles garbel, hometown heroes who for some reason though they could go anywhere, take their skills, and return to where they grew up. shady glenn diner, today's special, a tribute to the old european immigrant culture of the area, the new england boiled dinner. so i hear rumors of corned beef and cabbage, is that right? >> yeah, we do -- every week we do a corned beef and cabbage dinner. >> corned beef, boiled potatoes, steamed cabbage. >> that's a beast, awesome, thank you. >> how long have you been here? >> two years. >> are you from the area? >> i grew up here, been coming through here since a kid. went threw a few owners then came up for sale and decided to give it a shot.

>> generally speaking, who are your customers? >> most are retirees, they've been coming since they were 30. >> this, you don't see so much anymore. dino-era homemade pies and lots of them. all baked on premises. raspberry cream pie for me, thank you. this is not something we see a lot of. old school pie like that and this number of them. >> serving made here. everything is made here. and they're all the original recipes from the '60s. the index cards are so old, they're all faded yellow. >> this is exotic for me. >> really? >> oh, yeah. how's business? >> it's getting better. the drug problem has gotten rampant. took over may 1st, 2012, and by the end of that year i was broken into four times. it wasn't just me, it was multiple businesses time after time. i came in one morning to open up, and i actually had a guy in front of the register and he got up, pulled a knife out. i realized it really wasn't worth anything over a knife. >> what you're doing here is terrific. i mean, where a man get a good hot open turkey sandwich and

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an amazing man live ms. this house, emeril. he has become close to his holiness, the dalai lama and basically done everything with everybody in every place. >> i first got here 40 years ago and i put one foot on the island and i knew they was living here the rest of my life. >> you ever look out there and it is wall paper? >> never. i say it out loud every day, thank you, thank you, thank you. ev everyday. >> and he is one of the most generous and enthusiastic of host, and the most standup loyal guy that you could barely imagine and it is no wonder that they call the documentary based on his life "super mitch."

but here he is known as that guy who throws great parties. prep starts early. with his friend julio who is a maui born rancher, and with the help of a local chef sheldon simian, and the middle of the night, and traditional emu is dug and filled with lava rocks, and allowed to burn down to the coals before a pig wrapped in banana leaves and fig leaves is dropped in. >> you guys ready for the up vailing? all right. >> and 12 hours later you dig him up, and well, it is party time. >> so you have been drinking steadily since 5:00 this morning? >> well, it did not come out of my mouth. >> okay. >> and behold the magnificence. this is very important part of

the childhood. wow. look at that. you just lifted the bones out by hand. >> yes. >> ready? you dump him in a bucket? awesome. wow, that is pretty much the way i want to end up. a pour me right into the pot. there is lots of to do, and everyone pitches in to help. it is extended all day affair of prepping, chopping, dicing, mixing and then of course some sampling along the way, and like this wild pig sausage that somebody was nice enough to stop by with. sheldon works up a potato mac sal salad. >> one more time. >> and julio has some tuna fish

that he caught that morning. and there is poi pounded out back and somewhere pig foot soup is happily bubbling around. >> wait, why do i want to do this? >> there is chili pepper sauce which is to make it hot or boner medicine or whatever. and oh, yeah, spam noodles, and there is no party without spam. by dinner time the beer and the wine and the festive beverages have been flowing for hours and the moods have been adjusted in natural ways adjusted to the indigenous parts of the island, of course. i have cooked a lot of things,

but i have never seen one poured into the pot. >> it is what i love. this is what we do on the islands, and that is what it is all about. >> i bring the yohana and bring the family and the kids. you rarely see a party that there are not kids. and that means? >> family. >> family. extended family. >> yes, and now you are a yohana to everybody here. >> and if we are family, can we borrow money? >> and as happens, i have found out things just kind of happens in the natural way, song and some dancing. ♪ this is willie kay and his daughter lizzette, and it is pretty damn captivating.

♪ it is getting near the end for me, and i look over at shep, and he is a happy man surrounded by friends, and family, really, his ohana.

♪ in massachusetts a clam baik is is a are ritual that goes back to the days of the flintsto flintstones.

today at the long-standing locals only shooting club, schuetzen veerin in german for the immigrants who started this ray takes me through the fascinating and arcane process of creating an old-school clambake. >> basically we build a kiln with hardwood and stone. we burn it down, remove the wood and cover it with seaweed and corn hunks and we put our clams and lobsters and corn in there like a pressure cooker. >> we've got a pig hiding in there also. >> no, no, no. we're going to pull a tusker out right now, and you'll see what we have here. >> let's eat. >> all right. [ laughter ] first some good chowder and there really is only one kind of chowder, new england clam chowder. mm-mm. that is good. steamer clams, lobster, corn, potatoes. that's a pretty luxurious clambake here. >> that was amazing. >> absolutely. >> everybody's attention for a second. the opiod education and awareness task force came together several months ago. i don't think we realized how quickly this could turn into a crisis for us. >> everybody in this room has been touched by or impacted by

narcotics in some way. the franklin county opiod task force is a grassroots response. doctors, law enforcement led by franklin county sheriff chris donilon, addiction specialists and addicts themselves are coming together to find a community-based solution to what is finally being recognized as a public health crisis rather than a criminal justice problem. >> a great opportunity to come here tonight to break bread and look at the successes that we have had so far, think what makes me more proud than anything else about living in franklin county is that we will not sit back and wait for anybody else to solve this problem for us. we're going to be a model for the commonwealth and nation on how we save our young people and save our community. [ applause ] >> the city is the place where all the bad stuff was supposed to happen, not nice towns like greenfield. it isn't the image that people used to have 20 years ago that it's a junkie in an alley somewhere using a needle. it's not.

it's your kids, it's your neighbors. >> the worst i think is when you have these young people who break a leg and they go to the doctor and get a prescription for oxy and become addicted to it. these are any kid who plays a high school sport. it's a horrible circumstance when that happens. >> it's only started in the past couple of years. yeah, the heroin was around. pills were around but we didn't have people dying. >> once you've been busted for heroin, that's a hard thing to live down. >> got to get rid of that shame factor so people can deal with it, address it and get support from the community. >> i feel like we'll lose a generation of our young people. 18 to 22 is what we're seeing the most. the district attorney, the police department are all united this. the task force has grown to a matter of a hundred people. that is what we are committed to do. i will do it until day i die. >> i lost one daughter to drugs. you know, whatever it takes.

>> let's start by being honest with ourselves. as a nation for decades we were perfectly happy to write off whole neighborhoods, whole cities, whole generations of young men and women. as long as it was an inner city problem, an urban problem, which is to say a black people problem, a brown people problem, send them to prison into a system from which they'll never return. maybe now,now that it's come home to roost and it's the high school quarterback, your next-door neighbor, your son, your daughter, now that grandma is as likely to be a junkie as anyone else, we'll accept there's never been a real war on drugs. war on drugs implies an us versus them and all over this part of america, people are learning there is no them. there is only us. and we're going to have to figure this out together. figure this out together. havi -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com

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