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welcome back. good evening tonight. significant, potentially growing portion of the republican party, the time is now or never. the mission is, stop donald trump. even as he gets closer to capturing the nomination. they are speaking out saying why they will not vote for him in november. they'll write in a candidate or simply not vote at all. tomorrow the party's last nominee, mitt romney, will talk. he'll go on national television to denounce donald trump. all this as his rivals try to stop him the old-fashioned way by getting more votes. sara murray, super tuesday d behind them. how have the candidates been spending the day? >> hitting the campaign trail. marco rubio, ted cruz and kasich
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and trying to prove they deserve to be in this race. you know the field does appear to be getting smaller. ben carson says he'll not be on the debate stage tomorrow. that he does not see a path forward. one guy we did not see on the campaign trail today was the big winner for super tuesday, donald trump. he took a down day here in florida. he's going to be back at it tomorrow. his campaign strategy continues to be very interesting. he'll not commit to a single state. he's going to be in maine, in louisiana, he's going to be in michigan trying to snap up as many delegates as possible. and, of course, the biggest prize march 15th is here is florida. a winner take all state where the campaign plans to hold a number of large rallies. this is where they hope to knock off marco rubio once and for all to beat him here in his home state. >> talk about the mitt romney event ahead of the debate. what do we expect to hear from him? >> i feel like this is sort of the embodiment of the
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establishment panic attack that we're watching that romney has decided to schedule this speech and we're expecting he's going to go hard against donald trump and could offer complimentary words to marco rubio and ted cruz. he still hasn't endorsed in this race. this is sort of the elder statesman trying to weigh in and say, america, please come to your senses. please nominate anyone else but donald trump. but as we know, that sentiment might be in line with what voters are feeling. we're seeing donald trump not only win with some of these blue collar republicans who never were really quite comfortable with mitt romney but the country club republicans. that's what one of the florida operatives described to me here in florida. they're not just seeing these blue collar folks but his support is expanding. it may be a tough pitch for mitt romney tomorrow. mitt romney tomorrow will only be the tip of a mainstream republican spear that's only so far put a dent.
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ben sasse denounced him. and lindsey graham said he'd rather see cruz elected than donald trump. and republican congressman scott rigil of virginia put out this statement. trump is a bully unworthy of our nomination. my love for our country eclipses my loyalty to our party and to live with a clear conscience i'll not support a candidate so lacking in the temperament and judgment and character needed to be our nation's commander in chief. i spoke to the congressman late today. congressman, you'd urged people of virginia to vote for anyone but trump. donald trump still won there last night. what does that say to you? >> it says that our country is really in stress. the direction that we're headed is not a good one, but i was making the case to my fellow republicans that donald trump is truly not the solution. i think what it would mean to have a president trump and his
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lack of good judgment and then his temperament, i think is wholly imcompatible with the role of commander in chief. for that reason alone, that's was enough for me that it tipped me over to the other side of just saying i flat-out can't support him. even if i could get over the fact that he admires putin and quotes mussolini and mocks a physically disabled reporter and says things about women that i wouldn't repeat in my own home, even if i could get over those things, and i really can't, just thinking of him as commander in chief is more than i can take. i've been very clear on this matter. it's a sobering matter. i would rather us not have to go through this, but we are. it's a very difficult time for our country. >> and yet in so many criteria, the voters have heard trump say those things, do those things and yet they in policy, exit polls, state after state say,
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number one choice for commander in chief would be donald trump. what do you say to those voters? are they just wrong? if they want to vote for him, doesn't the republican party just have to accept that? >> well, we certainly don't have to accept it. i respect those who disagree with me on this. but it truly is a matter of conscience for me. i trust for other members of congress and rank and file hard-working americans who look at a republican creed for example a virginian would read it and say that's what aligns with what i think is best for our country. and donald trump, he doesn't align with that at all, in my view. >> what do you actually do come election day if he is the candidate for your party? do you vote for clinton? if she's the nominee? do you not vote? >> for the first time in my life as a voter, i'm going to have to go in that booth, i'll not vote for hillary clinton. her character is just all off
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base, and the policy as well. but i cannot in good conscience, if donald trump is our nominee, i cannot vote for him because of what i -- the risk that i think i put my own country at in terms of foreign policy and use of military force. i'll have to write in a candidate. i know mathematically what that means. i'm a businessman. i get it. but there are sometimes in life you have to say, what is the principle of the matter, and that's got to guide us above all else. i can kind of get over some of these things he's said and done but the sum of all of them and who he is, he does not comport and align with who we are when we're republicans at our best. i want an aspirational leader i can say to my son and grandson, grow up to be like him or her, and he fails that test miserably. i just hope my fellow voters will pause a bit and there are better alternatives out there. i'm behind rubio. >> congressman, appreciate your
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time. let's bring in our panel, john king, peter beinart, nia-malika henderson, katrina vanden hufen. there's a lot of republicans out there who are going to the polls who feel completely different. >> thoughtful guy. laid out his reasons pretty clearly there. and good for him for speaking out. however, where was that again, where was that six months ago when donald trump first got in. maybe the first month or so everyone thought this is a reality show, a joke. he's going to implode. it became apparent he was picking up steam and the entire establishment were afraid of him. they decided we're not -- first, it's not real and then we're not going to go after him. we're having a conversation that donald trump could be the republican nominee in part because of his strengths and the other candidates' weaknesses.
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17 candidates, 9 s8 sitting or former governors, people who have run for president before. impressive group. if you look at the results, trump has the broadest coalition. he's winning in the suburbs and tea party and evangelical voters. if you look so far, ted cruz thought he'd sweep the south. in virginia yesterday, marco rubio was a mainstream republican. marco rubio ran strong in the d.c. sunushes and richmond suburbs. donald trump competed with him and he spanked ted cruz in evangelical country and tea party country, places ted cruz should be winning. trump is proving his strength and the breadth of his coalition. establishment may not like it but the results speak for itself. the other candidates have not been able to beat him. >> the problem is not just a strategic one. the problem is an ideological one. the smart conservatives have been saying, the republican party has to have more to offer working class people than the government will get out of your way. it has to have a, affirmative policies to deal with the fact
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that their people have seen no wage growth since bill clinton was in office. people on both sides of the political divide overwhelmingly agree that our politics is corrupt and getting more corrupt as the 1% buys more. you did not have another candidate in the republican field who was answering those agencies. >> well, actually -- >> that was the problem. >> actually you did and you do which is john kasich who is -- >> john kasich didn't say this is a corrupt system like donald trump did. he worked for lehman brothers. >> at what kasich has been talking about is people living in the shadows. poverty. he's been talking about ways to combat poverty. he's not -- he doesn't have the same exact vision as donald trump, obviously. >> doesn't express the anger. >> he doesn't have the anger, but he is talking to those issues. the problem is that everybody, including myself, miscalculated about donald trump and said he had this ceiling of 30% or --
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and that they -- >> first 20%, then 30% -- >> you can't get above 80%. >> they stayed away and said once the field winnows out, then it will take care of itself. the field is winnowing out, and it isn't taking care of itself. >> they are left sort of with rubio and rubio, the more and more you look at him, he hasn't really grown. he's a candidate that hasn't found out what his main argument is for staying in this race. he's going after that establishment lane. the voters who have been attracted to bob dole, mitt romney, governors who have accomplishments and big resumes. he doesn't really have a long resume. >> but in addition to him tapping into that anxiety that exists within the base, he was a master user of media getting back to katrina's point and you had a media starved and believed they were going to have this sleepy election where there were two inevitable elections who
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were simply going to coast into being the nominees. there was disproportionate attention given to clinton over sanders. trump looked at that landscape and said i'm going to tweet in the middle of the night to take over your morning shows. what he did tonight. release a big plan on health care in the middle of prime time. real journalists don't have -- >> he'll take that -- >> and he also made himself available when no one else was. >> exactly. i'm sorry -- >> he calls into television shows. >> every day we were putting a request to a lot of candidates. none of them were responding. donald trump would respond. we're not the only ones. >> the republican party has had this coming to them for some time because from a policy perspective, we haven't answered the policy concerns. you are right. a failing income, the income of the families in the bottom quartile hasn't grown in the last 50 years. there are real problems and just tax cuts aren't going to cut it. child earned income tax credits
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aren't going to cut it. charles murray has written extensively about this. this isn't an idea of fight. we're not fighting over ideas. it's become a food fight. there hasn't been enough time, i don't think. marco rubio's campaign may not have taken off but millions are about to be spent against donald trump because people simply haven't had a chance to example trump university -- >> paul begala, we months ago was almost gleeful of the idea of donald trump being the republican nominee for the democratic candidate to run against. the other day i asked him. he's now saying, i am no longer gleeful. i think trump is -- whether it's bernie sanders or hillary clinton at the democratic nominee, do you think donald trump is going to be an easy victory? >> no, our cover story this week about the challenge donald trump poses to democrats. >> you see him as formidable? >> i see him as posing a challenge. he's talking about protections
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jobs. about a trade policy that sounds good to a lot of people who have lived with economic pain and anxiety. it's going to demand of any democratic candidate a very bold, populist response, not one of dividing people but of inclusion. so i'm not gleeful. and in this unprecedented election, never say never. that congressman talked a lot about our next commander in chief. we're living in a time of dire international crises. we have gotten by way of discussion is a foreign policy by bumper sticker. it's a scandal this country that we don't learn more about what these candidates would do, they talk about more torture, carpet bombing the sands of the middle east, fighting terrorism in ways that make no sense. >> are you saying taking the oil is not specific enough? >> i'm saying that -- >> you want more details? >> i'm saying that whether it's because the debates didn't drill down or because we have bellicosity that passes for foreign policy on one side. on the democratic side, i think bernie sanders hasn't fully
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seized the moment to show he doesn't share hillary clinton's hawkish foreign policy. he could have given a major foreign policy speech and showed that he is more in sync with president obama than hillary clinton is but he didn't do that. >> jeffrey, as a trump supporter, do you think it's going to be whoever the democratic candidate is, sanders, clinton, is it going to be a relatively easy fight for your candidate? >> no. >> you think it's going to be a tough battle? >> i think it's going to be a tough battle no matters who it is. i just think that donald trump has shown the ability, people don't like it in some cases, but he's shown the ability to fight back. and a perfect example of that was when hillary clinton accused him of being a sexist. and out came owl of this stuff. he slammed back and slammed back hard. she hasn't said a word about the subject since. that's incredible contrast to mitt romney who was accused of being responsible for the death of a steel worker's wife. the dog on the roof. all these things.
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he never fought back. that is one of the complaints from the base of the party. they think these people get in these situations and john mccain, they just don't fight back and they get sucker punched. >> one of the positives, if the eventual nominee is hillary and it's trump is that he neutralized a lot of her negatives. her highest negative is that people don't trust her. so you know, one of the tough things for hillary in the primary is that bernie sanders highlights her negatives because he is kind of the opposite of that. he's been talking about the same thing for 30 years. there is a absolute consistency to him that is in real contrast to her willingness to -- >> authenticity, trustworthiness -- >> they neutralize each other. so they can have another kind of fight that's not the fight being had in these primaries. >> we've got to take a quick break. we'll continue the conversation throughout this hour. all the angles, including what
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we've been talking about donald trump the candidate and to some in his party, donald trump the interloper. in florida where he's leading over their sitting senator marco
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rubio, many know him as donald trump, the guy next door. we sent randi kaye to listen. >> reporter: palm beach, florida, the place donald trump calls his second home. this beach is just a stone's throw from trump's residence at mar-a-lago. so everyone here has an opinion about their neighbor, the republican front-runner. what do you think about donald trump? >> i love donald trump and think he's definitely going to make america great again. >> what do you think of donald trump? >> i think he's a rude guy. i think that he's very arrogant. i think he's an embarrassment to the country. >> ooud compare him to hitler. >> why? >> because of his beliefs and the thing he's says and the way he represents himself. >> reporter: regard fls so many mixed opinions there's no denying his big win on super tuesday and his legions of steadfast supporters like palm beach realtor edward shipeck. >> are you donald trump supporter? >> 100%. >> why? >> donald trump is -- you know
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what the united states of america needs donald trump. we've had politicians throughout the years. you can see what they've done. donald trump is a businessman and can lay it out as to what exactly needs to be done. >> reporter: this maintenance worker larry holt is undecided. he's considering trump though doesn't think he's done much for florida employment, even with all his businesses here. >> a lot of locals have been looking for work for them to hire here locally. he's been outsourcing a lot of jobs. people coming into town that locals could use jobs around here. >> reporter: the republican establishment isn't sold on donald trump either. it's said to be organizing behind the scenes for a way to take trump down and find an alternate candidate. even though trump has won 10 of the last 15 contests. that has his supporters furious. would you feel like your vote doesn't count? >> that's right. it just goes to show the united states government is rigged. >> at this point get behind trump. i think he's the one that the
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majority of the republicans so far are saying that's who we want. and they should hear that. >> i don't think they should do that. obviously the people want him. i think that the people are speaking right now. and they are showing that's really what they want. >> reporter: others like kevin mcbriar are counting on the establishment putting an toend what he considers a trump nightmare. >> it just blows my mind. it scares me for my children. >> you'd like to see the establishment come up with another candcandidate? >> yes. >> real tough assignment there, randi. sounds like the trump supporters were sending a clear message to the republican establishment essentially saying, what are you doing? >> absolutely, anderson. that message was loud and clear saying, hey, back off. they've absolutely had it with the republican establishment. they want them to lay off donald trump. they don't want them to do anything that would jeopardize him being at the top of the ticket. they say it's time the establishment give donald trump their blessing. and his supporters are fiercely
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loyal. not only because they think he's a great businessman and has done well for florida but he's so outspoken and also in palm beach county, they like his immigration plan. they believe it's time to take back our country, to seal those borders and they think that donald trump can make it all happen. >> randi, thank you. joining us from boynton beach, florida, steven miller. senior policy adviser to the trump campaign. thanks for joining us. first of all, it's interest -- >> great to be here. >> donald trump supporters saying essentially to the republican establishment, what's are you doing? butt out. is that something you're hearing a lot on the ground from your supporters? the sense of anger, surprise that some in the gop seem to be moving against the candidate? >> well, let's be clear. when we're talking about the establishment trying to stop donald trump, what they are really saying is they are trying to stop donald trump's voters. the great working and middle class of this country that's
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been beaten down year after year after year, beaten down by trade policies that's send our manufacturing jobs overseas, by tax and regulatory policies that force american wealth to move offshore and by an immigration policy that rewards only the wealthy while driving down wages and employment opportunities for americans of all backgronds struggling to get ahead. so they're talking about stopping working and middle class americans who want desperately to change and the direction of this country. >> is florida something you believe donald trump is going to win? the latest polls show marco rubio down. >> mr. trump is doing very well in florida. and frankly, it's -- it should be hugely embarrassing for florida's no-show senator marco rubio that he is doing so poorly in a state he represents in the u.s. senate. and the reality is that marco rubio has defrauded the people of florida. he ran for office in 2010 and you covered it. on a pledge to stop amnesty.
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he ran, hitting charlie crist on pushing amnest pethen marco rubio came to the united states senate and became the biggest champion of amnesty in the congress, democrat or republican. marco rubio also, while raking in millions upon millions of dollars from donors has wracked up the worst attendance record in the senate. >> these are all points your candidate has made but are you -- i am curious to see, are you concerned at all about the response by hispanic voters to donald trump? based on some of the things he's said, let alone who he is running against? >> no candidate would be worse in this race for hispanic workers and hispanic citizens than florida senator marco rubio. it's a stealth tax on the working class. look who was pushing senator rubio. it's large donors, transnational
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corporations, special interest groups, people like the chamber of commerce and others who want to keep pay down and wages low. all americans, including especially hispanic americans, and this doesn't get talked about enough. i'm going to say it here tonight and everyone needs to hear this. minorities in this country are being hammered by a policy of uncontrolled immigration which brings in low-wage workers and drives down wages for recent immigrants and americans of all backgrounds. and senator rubio also has a trust deficit with the people of florida. he sold his house to a lobbyist. >> donald trump also brought that up. >> he's spent 1 $00,000 to a florida state credit card and used much of that money for personal expenditures, including a trip to las vegas and paving his driveway. these are serious issues. >> stephen miller, thank you for joining us. given that super tuesday delivered a heap of delegates to hillary clinton is it too late for sanders to stop her? john king breaks down the math ahead. working on my feet all day gave me pain here.
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collecting a lot of delegates and extending her lead. she's reclaimed her front-runner status. the question is, is the lead these built now unsurmountable? can she be stopped? john king is breaking it down pie the numbers. >> the answer is, yes, she can be stopped. there's plenty of time for bernie sanders but you have to bend the arc of the race in a serious way. she comes out of super tuesday with a significant lead. not only bernie sanders is winning states but the size of the states and the size of the delegate pool, hillary clinton is winning the big ones. proportional rules. look at pledge delegates, she's a quarter of the way. he's 200 delegates behind her. that 200 is hard to make up as you go forward. caucus on march 5th. if hillary clinton wins them all, she starts to pull away. bernie sanders out in nebraska is a place she'll probably win. march 8th, sanders will win in kansas and could win in nebraska. if sanders picks up maine, this
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is the big one, michigan. sanders has to prove he can win in a more diverse state. he has to prove he can win in a state with a significant african-american population. at the moment she won huge against minorities. to make up the delegate math he has to win in a place like that. if secretary clinton wins on march 8th, one of these two smaller states could change. but she starts to pull away. 200-plus there. again, if sanders can win ohio and michigan, two big industrial states and sell his economic message in two big states like that, that would be a statement. she'd be pulling away a little because she still gets delegates, but that's a much better position as you head to bigger states out west. if secretary clinton runs the board in michigan and ohio, this is the point where her campaign will turn to sanders and say you couldn't beat me in the south or
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these two big industrial states. stay in the race. make your point but dial back the rhetoric. this is where the math matters. these two industrial states your debate is in much, ohio as well and then ohio. if you can't make a statement in the south he has to make it in the industrial states. >> when those campaigns say come march 15th, it's going to be kind of clear. is that true? >> if she wins. remember, she's winning 55-45. bernie sanders is getting 45% of the delegates. but she hopes to win the nomination when we move west. huge delegates. she hopes to win it. i'll say fair and square. with pledge delegates. if senator sanders can win, if he can -- this would change the dynamic of the race. that may bend the arc that makes everything different. this guy is for real. let's think again. if he cannot do this and she can win either one of those or both
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of those, remember, she has this. sanders campaign doesn't like when we talk about this. these people can change their mind. but you have nearly 500 superdelegates, elected and appointed officials who get a vote at the convention have publicly endorsed secretary clinton. this doesn't count until the convention. that's true. they don't really count if she clinches on her own pledge delegates. if she has momentum in the race and is doing this, winning african-americans and latinos and industrial battlegrounds, they'll stay with her and then the lead becomes insurmountable. to get this number to dwindle and more delegates from here, sanders has to make a point. has to make a statement out here in the industrial midwest. >> john king, thanks very much. despite the math, bernie sanders not giving any ground, vowing to fight on. his supporters, many young voters are urging him on. we've seen the enthusiasm he garners on the campaign trail.
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10,000 people turned out to hear him speak at a rally in east lansing, michigan. it was at michigan state university. michigan's primary is march 8th. five days away. joining me is bernie sanders' campaign manager jeff weaver. always good to have you on the program. i want to get your response to something the clinton campaign said. essentially that the race saul but over. sanders would have to win by large margins. to this you say -- you're laughing? >> i am laughing. look. we've gone through 15 states. 35 more states to go. the district of columbia and territories. the state of california has over 400 delegates in it alone. it's a little preposterous. thaud like the race to be over. but we aggressively competed in five states on march 1st. and we won 4.9 of them. and we won all across the country in different kinds of states. we won in colorado. no way you can win colorado with a margin that senator sanders a won it unless you win the latino vote. we won the latino vote in
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nevada. i understand thaw want to put out this narrative but it's a little laughable. we're going to go into michigan. we're going to go into michigan. michigan has been devastated by the policies hillary clinton advocated. detroit, flint and other places deindustrialized by the trade deals hillary clinton has been advocating for years. we do not need an outsourcer in chief. we need a candidate and president that's going to stand with working families. >> there have been some who question whether sanders will start to sort of pivot more towards talking about donald trump as opposed to taking full-on comparing his record to secretary clinton's record. from what you are saying there, it does sound like hillary clinton is still very much in the conversation for senator sanders. >> oh, absolutely. look, the difference between the two candidates on this issue of trade and protecting american jobs and really the devastating economic calamity that's
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affected michigan and parts of ohio and illinois and other parts of this country, secretary clinton has to answer for her support for these. her donor class, the same people who support her with money are the same who benefited from these trade deals. everybody knew, let's be clear. everybody knew when these deals were passed what was going to happen. jobs were going to fly out of this country and poverty would follow. what's sad is in a place like michigan where nafta gutted jobs and then the clinton administration with hillary clinton's support then pulled out the social safety net with welfare reform in '96. >> when you look at the number of delegates, hillary clinton nearly there. conclude the superdelegates. how does sanders make up that ground? >> look, we're going to do well in the industrial midwest. we're going to -- if you look at the states we won last night, we won with substantial margins. there are a lot of states around those states that look just like that. we saw polls in utah that have
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him up by 20. if you look across those states, did very well in rural areas as he does in vermont. very strong appeal with rural voters. the secretary does not. his authent icity plays to rura voters. we'll start eat away at her lead. we'll win in big states, including california and we're going to fight for new york as well. >> all right. jeff weaver, thank you. this sunday, the fight continues. bernie sanders and hillary clinton facing off in the cnn democratic debate. i'll be moderating. it gets under way 8:00 p.m. eastern. just ahead, breaking news in the hillary clinton e-mail scandal. the department of justice grants immunity to a former clinton staffer. details on that ahead. you totalled your brand new car.
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breaking news on the hillary clinton e-mail front. a federal law enforcement official telling us that a former staffer who helped set up her private mail server will talk to investigators in xachblg for immunity from the justice department. it's unclear the parameters of the agreement or what the feds hope to learn from him. john king showed us by the numbers why clinton's lead may be too big to overcome. back wither panel. do you think this e-mail
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controversy -- it's the drip event but this is significant. >> it's a drip, drip, drip thing. we know donald trump is going to go at this. he already did last night in his speech talking about he doesn't even know if she'll be eligible to run. what we do know is that bernie sanders so far at least hasn't really wanted to touch the idea of the damn e-mails. maybe he starts to go there. this is the cloud that has always been over hillary clinton's campaign and makes some democrats nervous but so far hasn't been enough to tip voters over to sanders side. >> some democrats nervous and republicans lethal. >> this is the tip of the iceberg for donald trump. the e-mails are going to be tame. he's going to throw everything at her to going back to lewinsky and clinton administration and everything. and he'll continue on this. but he's going to add to it. >> it will be tricky for her to respond. you see the republicans have
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this trouble. you get down in the dirt with him as marco rubio has, you lose some of your stature. that's not a place she's comfortable. she's at her best when she's talking about policy. but if she tries to ignore this, then maybe she looks like she's weak. i imagine a lot of thinking on how do they respond to that? >> i think when the trump campaign, or when the clinton campaign says they want to go after trump on the whole idea of bigotry, trump is not going to run a conventional campaign. maybe he'd say you think you have such a great record on race and i have a bad record on race. what about the crime bill signed by your husband and the generations of black men behind bars. >> this is the wild card in this election. the keyword here is fbi. i mean james comey as we all know is famously fiercely independent. and if this is true, in the sense that there's something going on here, i mean you can
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see immediately two scenarios. one, she's not indicted and there are people in the fbi in a sort of saturday night massacre situation get very angry that, you know, they have not been followed up on, or, two, she is indicted. either way this is -- >> or three, the -- >> completely be the other option that the recommendation is not to indict at all. >> that's routight. >> we keep assuming indictment is coming. something is going to come of it. there's going to be some report. it's going to add to the people's -- some people's belief that she's not trustworthy, and that is a huge weight on her ankle at this point. she cannot shake it in the primaries, she'll not be able to shake it in the general election. but if she's running against trump, i think it's an open question as to how his kind of very aggressive tacking will
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play on her and she's a very smart woman. and it is -- it could be tricky for him to do that. carly fiorina figured out how to work that. let him be aggressive. you be classy. it works against him. and it worked in your favor. but i'm saying, it worked -- carly has all kind of other problems. >> bernie sanders is going to go after the e-mails. i think he -- i don't. >> as a supporter, do you wish he would have? >> no, i want him to go after president clinton's trade policy. i don't often like how all of president clinton's policies are tethered to secretary of state clinton, but she has gone around and touted her husband's economic policies. but she -- there's legitimate issue base go after trade, go after welfare reform bill. i think the crime bill is trickier for bernie sanders because he voted for it. but go after bill clinton's deregulation which contributed to the wall street crisis. but i don't think he's going to
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do e-mails because it's become a republican partisan attack. my personal view is that it's about the hyperclassification, the hyperretroactive classification of classified information and an administration in the obama administration which has persecuted and prosecuted whistleblowers and leakers to a large -- made it a priority and hillary clinton has become caught up in this frankenstein monster in a strange -- >> bernie has not shown that savvy and aggressiveness he needs to show if he wants to win this race. you make a really strong point. he should have gone after welfare reform. when hillary clinton is out saying i went to work for edelman going to point out those schools were -- >> but he did about a week ago, he linked it to poverty in this country. poverty hasn't been mentioned. >> he keeps trying to link it to his standing position about class warfare rather than linking it to the same edelman you went to work for --
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>> but he did in the speech. >> too late. too late. >> you're raising the larger issue -- >> one at a time. >> sorry. the larger issue is that he hasn't fully tied his economic p populism to a racial justice message. he could have done that taking on the welfare reform bill. if you consider a year ago where he was. that first debate where he said i'm not going to touch the e-mails. it was -- the rest of it was cut off. he is someone who -- he's a real critic of the media. not about liberal bias or conservative bias but a media system that fails to deal with the really important issues. that's a legitimate critique of our media system. too often it's about triviali trivialities and we don't get to issues -- >> this is not trivial. this is a point -- >> charles? >> this is not trivial at all.
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it goes directly to the people who he needs to get to vote for him. i'm talking about the welfare reform and how he is not necessarily shown that he has the fire in the belly to want to win this race. when you are swinging south and she has said that her -- begins working with edelman and if he cannot see that the people who are alive now, the people who are going to go to the polls are older black women who understand and revere marianne wright edelman, understand that whole concept of the segregated schools, their kids were part of that system, and he did not -- he was not able to connect those two things, there's something wrong there. >> the fire in the belly. he doesn't have the teeth to go for the jugular. >> we've got to wrap it there. i want to thank everybody on both panels. the american special ops forces capture a suspected isis operative in iraq as part of a secretive team led by the army's
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questions than answers. >> and a hillary clinton staffer reaching an immunity agreement to cooperate with the justice department. right now "cnn tonight" with don lemon. yes, this is war. inside the gop. but is it too late for anybody to stop donald trump? this is "cnn tonight." i am don lemon. the republican powers that be in full panic mode in the wake of super tuesday night activities. and mitt romney getting ready to lob another grenade. >> there's nothing in his background to suggest to me you can trust donald trump when it comes to the conservative cause. >> and rival marco rubio missing no words. >> and if we choose donald trump as