starting this sunday night. "race for the white house" from kevin spacey. sunday night 10:00 p.m. eastern right after the democratic presidential debate. i'm wolf blitzer. thanks very much for watching. "erin burnett outfront". next, a trump 180. the gop frontrunner changing his position on torture. trump the businessman. how he wheels and deals behind closed doors. an insiders exclusive story. more than 20 years after o.j. simpson was acquitted of two murders, has a crucial piece of evidence been found buried at his home? let's go "outfront." >> good evening. i'm erin burnett. outfront tonight, trump's about

face. donald trump under attack for promising to target terrorists' families and for saying he would waterboard terror suspects. he has changed his stance dramatically in less than 24 hours. last night the issue came up. when he was challenged, he was challenged on his plan to order soldiers to kill innocent people or families of terrorists and torture suspects. he was put on the spot. they said it's a violation of international law. trump though last night was defiant. >> these animals over in the middle east that chop off heads sitting around talking and seeing that we're having a hard problem with waterboarding. we should go with waterboarding and we should go tougher than wat waterboarding. >> the trump campaign said i will not order a military officer to disobey the law. it will be bound by laws like all americans and i will meet

those responsibilities. the trump debate had many moments in it. that was probably a high point. it was a pretty low moment for trump and the other candidates filled with schoolyard taunts and subtle references to genitalia. sara murray is outfront tonight in new orleans at a rally. the reversal on torture is very significant. donald trump has doubled down, tripled down, on this issue. what's behind the about face? >> reporter: that's right. he has made it a regular talking point to talk about torture saying he would bring back waterboarding and things even worse than that. i think the reality is backlash has been stirring among national security experts, among foreign policy experts. i think that's why you're seeing him walk that back today. when he takes that stance saying he agrees with violating

international law, it looks like he doesn't understand the geneva convention. >> thank you, sara. we could barely hear sara there with the music and the cheering. maybe you were distracted by that little trump baby. all day long the battle between trump and his opponents has been boiling over torture and other things. athena jones is outfront. >> these politicians come up here like lightweight marco rubio, like lying ted cruz. >> reporter: on the heels of a raunchy debate, the insults kept flying on the campaign trail today. donald trump not letting up in his criticism of his rivals and not letting go of marco rubio's comment about the size of his

hands. >> when little marco rubio spews his crap about the size of my hands, those hands can hit a golf 282 yards. >> reporter: questioning his shifting views. >> have you noticed how many times he said the word flexible? when a politician says he's going to be flexible, that means he's getting ready to stick it to you. >> reporter: trump walking back this line from last night. >> we should go for waterboarding and we should go tougher than waterboarding. >> reporter: reversing his stance on torture and ditching his calls to target the families of terrorists in violation of international law. saying he understands the united states is bound by laws and treaties. i will not order our military or other officials to violate those laws. thursday night's debate was laced with locker room innuendo. >> he referred to my hands as being small.

something else must be small. i guarantee you there is no problem. >> reporter: attacks on his business dealings, immigration, and his business proposals. >> i think the american people understand that yelling and cursing at people doesn't make you a tough guy. >> he has spent a career of convincing americans that he's something he's not in exchange for his money. >> reporter: all three contenders standing by their pledge to back a man they spent the entire night saying he isn't fit to run the country. deciding to skip a major conservative outside of washington this weekend, he'll campaign in kansas instead. rubio took the opportunity to tweet trump. >> donald trump is not a conservative. >> reporter: meanwhile cruz is throwing cold water on the prospect of blocking trump at a contested convention.

>> if the washington deal makers try to steal the nomination from the people, i think it will be a disaster. >> reporter: trump has bought tv ad time. michigan who votes on tuesday and florida where voters head to the polls the following tuesday, these are his first ad buys in those states. trump has only spent a grand total of just over $12 million on tv campaign ads this weekend. that's what a fraction of his rivals have spent. >> outfront now, former republican presidential candidate and the former governor of arkansas, mike huckabee. governor, thank you so much for being with us. we talked before. we talked in iowa. you told me donald trump is a straightforward guy about who he is. we're hearing him change his position on torture. today he put out that press release saying he would not

order the u.s. military to break international laws after he received withering criticism over those possible policies. do you think it's a good thing he's changing his position? >> i think he's coming to grips with reality on what the limitations of power are. if he wants to torture captured terrorists, make them watch last night's debate. i think they would cough up any kind of information just to turn this off. it was not the republicans best night. it was a great night for hillary clinton. to me, i have a new definition of torture. it's called watching that republican debate last night. painful. painful. >> i think there are a lot of americans who would agree with you. people who would say they were ashamed to be american. many republicans were even saying that. let me just remind you -- sorry, let me torture you governor with

a quick snip ppet of what it wa like last night. >> he referred to my hands if they're small, something else must be small. i guarantee you there's no problem. >> breathe, breathe, breathe, breathe. >> lying ted. >> you can do it. you can breathe. i know it's hard. i know it's hard. >> when they're done with the yoga, can i understand a question here? >> don't worry about it, little marco. >> the republican pollster was with a focus group, governor. there were nine people in the group and they had to come up with a word at the end to describe the debate. the nine words were sophomoric, embarrassment, shameful, despikable, angry, disgusting, schoolyard, brawl. who do you blame for that? >> you know, i don't know how to blame other than the candidates because they're in control of what they say and how they say it. let's give some kudos to john

kasich who really did stick to the issues and he didn't take the bait when it was tossed to him and it certainly was on several occasions to attack one of his rivals and he didn't. i was actually glad i wasn't on the debate stage. it was just not the way it's supposed to be when you run for president of the united states. it shouldn't be when republican candidates are debating for the presidency, that you have to ask your children to leave the room. in the old days you said, kids, come in here. i want you to see our government, our system, our democracy in progress. last night it was kids, you need to leave the room. the republicans are about to debate. >> it was crass. let's just be honest. the comments in particular about hands when they were made a few days ago and when they were made last night. because donald trump is at the center of every one of these

exchanges, i know you have spoken positively of him. do you blame him for the vulgarity? >> no, i don't blame him exclusively. marco rubio has been taunting him for days over these kind of remarks. ted cruz was giving him breathing lessons last night. it's a pile on kind of experience. trump is who he is. we don't expect him to come in with folded hands and a new testament in his front pocket. we just don't. he is who he is. i think people accept that. i'm not saying it's always ideal because there are times when he ste steps across a line that i wouldn't have been able to do. i would not have been able to get a popsicle at recess if i talk eed like that. i think there comes a point in this process when we need to be talking about what matters, what matters to the people who have elevated trump to the front position. it's those folks out there who

feel like the system is rigged against them, who really believe that the people in power might as well be louis xiv or marie antoinette. people are sick of the republican establishment and the elites. mitt romney's speech only went further to solidify that level of anger. i thought it was a bizarre type of speech that he made. all it did was make donald trump supporters even more committed to him. i don't think it moved anybody away from trump and it probably didn't make the establishment people any more against trump than they already were. >> your daughter joined the campaign. are you going to back him in this primary? are you going to not endorse? >> i don't plan to endorse, erin. there are a lot of things about donald trump that i really admire. i admire the fact that he's

self-funded, that he isn't getting all his money like everybody else on that stage, which is from the same corporate global interests that have created the mess that we're in. we're in the midst of a takeover of our government. so far we're getting close to maybe changing that, but it is a bloodless revolution, but it is a revolution of sorts where people are ready to overthrow a government that has not served them, but has served themselves. it's hopefully going to be delivered by balance, not by bullets. i do understand what's out there in the mood of people. i think if anybody didn't see that video of the carrier plant where 1400 people were told they just lost their jobs that were going to mexico, that's the america that people are so frustrated with that they feel like nobody is paying attention. >> governor, thank you very

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all day he's been relentless unleashing his toughest attacks yet on the former republican nominee. >> he's a nasty guy. he's like a spoiled brat. he thinks he's hot stuff. i hate people that think they're hot stuff and they're nothing. he's making a fool out of himself. i watched him yesterday and it was sad. >> now romney is not letting up as he tries to take trump down either, telling gloria borger why he is choosing to speak out now. >> i wanted to remain as a neutral umpire, if you will, calling balls and some strikes and some fouls, but over the last several weeks some of the things donald trump has said and done on policy has made me say better late than never. i know when my grandkids say what did you do to stop donald

trump, i want to say i did something. >> the other candidates said they would support trump if he became the nominee. is there any circumstance under which you would? >> well, i can't imagine supporting donald trump for president or hillary clinton for president. either one. i'll hopefully be able to find a conservative on the ballot who i can vote for. >> did party leaders looking back, yourself included, misread their own voters in the republican base by betting on the fact that perhaps donald trump would simply implode of his own free will? >> i don't know about other people. i certainly paid attention to donald trump. i didn't expect him to do so well. >> right. >> but he's tapped into an anger, which is very much understood. what he's done with that anger however is not to build it into resolve and high purpose, but instead to take it down a very dark alley. that i think is unfortunate. donald trump has and at this

stage we say, all right, he could easily become the nominee. probably most likely to be the republican nominee at this point, but i think there's a better choice out there. >> who is it? >> well, marco rubio is the right person in florida. john kasich is the right person in ohio. ted cruz is right anywhere he is leading right now. >> when are you going to choose one? >> well, it depends in part on how the process continues. i expect after march 15th it may be clearer who is going to be the person who opposed donald trump most effectively. i would anticipate endorsing at that time, but let's say all three are doing about the same. >> then what? >> then i would encourage whoever is doing best in a particular state to get the support there and do that state by state. that would lead to an open convention where'd you see the delegates selected make the final decision. >> this contested convention, is this a scenario that you're

actively looking at? >> i think it's a realistic scenario. a lot of people have thought that for sometime. >> likely? >> i think it's more likely than not that we'll have a nominee before the convention that's donald trump. i think he has a much stronger shot of getting the 237 delegates than that. the debate last night was not good for donald trump. he showed that he cracks under pressure. i think that may begin to open the door for some people who are looking for a different path. >> are you referring to a contested convention that has a first ballot and then people are unbound by that, second ballot? >> i'm going to begin by campaigning for people who i believe in and encouraging people to vote for folks who i think would be a better nominee than donald trump, but at a convention, sure. i would be one of the people encouraging delegates to get behind someone who i thought could win in november. >> if there is a contested convention, would you allow your

name to be put into nomination? >> that's not going to happen. the people who are running for president and who have delegates are going to be able to battle with one another. >> would you allow it? >> i'm not going to even go there. >> i have to say you were someone who sought his endorsement in 2012. i don't have to remind you about that. you tweeted that you sort of regretted that and you said four years ago, quote, the things he says now about the kkk, muslims, mexicans, disabled, i would not have accepted his endorsement. when he endorsed you, he was the god father of the obama birther movement. wasn't that bad enough? >> no, i think that's very different than calling mexicans rapists and saying muslims are not allowed into the country as immigrants, that mocking a disabled reporter, going after women and saying she asks tough questions she was in her

menstrual cycle. this is highly offensive. >> the birther thing was offensive. >> there are political views where we're going to disagree, but what he said during this campaign, that george w. bush is a liar, that john mccain isn't a hero, he has said some things that are totally outrageous. >> i think obama would say that trump was saying he wasn't born here. >> it wouldn't have made no difference. barack obama's mother was american. it was a whole ridiculous thing that donald trump was pursuing. i think it is characteristic of what you see now. >> do you regret that you didn't run? >> no. as i looked at that stage last night and i spoke with my wife, she said aren't you glad you're not up there with the kinds of things that are being said. it's so degrading, so demeaning. mr. trump has taken this

campaign in a very deep gutter. i hope somehow we're able to come out of that gutter. >> those tough words continuing, gloria. talking about the deep gutter and blaming it on donald trump, romney tells you he's not going to run for president, but did it sound to you when you asked him directly about the convention that he would consider it if he were drafted at a contested convention? >> he's practiced enough as a politician, erin, to not go there no matter how many different ways i tried to ask that question. he said, oh, that's not going to happen. would you allow it? i have no interest in going there. i think the door is not shut completely because anything can happen in this race as we know. i think what romney is really interested in is seeing one of these three fellows rise to the top or have some kind of a

combination ticket. if this were a perfect world for mitt romney and he could pick anyone he wanted, i think it would be house speaker paul ryan. he loves that guy and he thinks he's the future of the party. but i think right now he understands how disenfranchised republican grass roots would feel if suddenly the republican establishment said, oh, never mind all your millions of votes or your turnout enthusiasm. we're just going to put mitt romney in there or somebody else. i think he understands that would be sort of a nonstarter. >> and certainly cause outrage. you heard governor huckabee say they want to do it with ballots, not bullets. outfront next, clinton and sanders to face off at a crucial cnn debate. will sanders take off the gloves? my exclusive interview with the man who has watched donald trump

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breaking news. ben carson ending his campaign for president today officially announcing it at cpac, an influential conservative meeting in washington. donald trump cancelled his scheduled saturday morning appearance. we are outfront from the scene there. let me start first with the ben carson news coming out today at cpac saying he is ending his campaign. does he plan to endorse anyone still running? >> you know, he was very coy about that. we spent a lot of time pushing him at a press conference afterwards. he kept his mouth shut. very mum about that. said he was looking at various factors, including whether or not anyone has laid out detailed policy ideas. i said does that mean you won't get behind donald trump. he said absolutely not. that's not what i mean overall.

he was sharply critical of mitt romney saying that will only serve to divide the party and hurt the party come november. ben carson ruling out getting behind any third-party candidate. we'll see if he decides to get behind someone before that critical march 15th day in the primary calendar. >> which is going to be crucial. so much speculation with every vote counting so much right now. what was the reaction at cpac to donald trump backing out? he obviously has spoken at cpac many times before. him choosing to suddenly not come to his scheduled slot tomorrow is obviously very significant. >> it is. it is a surprise. several thousand convention goers here were very disappointed. there were a series of folks who wanted to hear what the presidential frontrunner had to say. it is probably no surprise in some ways because this is a very pro-ted cruz crowd. he took some pointed jabs at

donald trump for not wanting to talk to conservatives or maybe he was afraid megyn kelly would show up. clearly maybe donald trump decided it wasn't a good idea to come before a rather hostile audience. >> thank you very much. >> thank you, erin. >> and from cpac to bernie sanders, he's about to take the stage, as you can see, at a rally there in michigan, speaking to a crowd in all allendale. there are a bunch of stage vote voting tomorrow. maine voting on sunday in bernie sanders backyard. that is a lot of states. je a lot of those states are caucuses. could that be a big advantage? could sanders possible win well

in those caucus states? >> reporter: senator sanders believes he can. he is eyeing nebraska and kansas and maine on sunday. they think louisiana might be out of reach. he could have three more states. now senator sanders is taking the stage behind me here just right now. there are nearly 5,000 people here in michigan. this is his second stop of the day here. he's really looking forward to michigan next tuesday as a place where he can revive his candidacy. you can hear the crowd roaring for him here. he believes he has the energy and momentum going into this weekend. the delegate math is running against him. he needs to win here in michigan. that's why that debate on sunday in flint, michigan, so important. he's going to continue pressing his economic message. one thing he won't do is talk about the e-mail controversy. he says voters simply don't care

about that. >> you can hear the roar of the crowd there. 5,000 people for bernie sanders in michigan tonight. john king is outfront. let's start with the democrats. people may say, oh, you know, everyone votes on tuesday. not so. this is a huge weekend. kansas, louisiana, nebraska, all voting tomorrow. maine on sunday. could there be a sanders surprise this weekend? >> every tuesday, every saturday in march, erin. no days out. could there be a sanders surprise? let's play some of it out. let's say bernie sanders wins kansas. let's say bernie sanders wins maine. what the sanders campaign would say after these contests, i gave him three there, he would still be behind. getting a win or two this weekend or three, if he can get them, is very important from a motivation standpoint, for the morality of the campaign. the math of the campaign kicks

in when we move to next week. hillary clinton has swept across the south. she has proved african-american voters in the south, african-american latinos in texas. her message to democrats is i'm winning the diverse base of the party. bernie sanders is winning in predominantly white states. the big one for bernie sanders, we have the debate in flint, michigan this weekend. michigan votes next tuesday. bernie sanders needs to prove in the industrial midwest in a big state where his economic message should be able to sell and you have a diverse electorate. the big test is here. if we get to next week tuesday night and michigan fills in for hillary clinton, not only is she pulling away in the delegate count. but she's proving i won in the south and the midwest. bernie sanders, what's your case? >> you've got kansas, kentucky, louisiana, and maine for the gop as well in this race where

donald trump is trying to become the presumptive nominee. the others are trying to stop him. what are you looking for? >> i filled in the map as if donald trump runs the weekend. if donald trump runs the weekend, look what he starts to do. he starts pulling away in the delegate chase. he can make the case again ted cruz you've got a couple, marco you have one. if ted cruz is going to prove he's a viable contender, why can't he win in louisiana? for the sake of argument, i'll give that to ted cruz. that would be a blow to donald trump. is there a place marco rubio can win? he's going back mostly to florida, but he did spend some time in kansas. let's say marco rubio can take kansas away. you can take one or two away from donald trump this weekend. you can further the perception that maybe trump is weakening. michigan next week. then ohio and florida on march 8th. if trump is starting to falter,

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for each other. bar recei barrett buys into the idea that donald trump will make america great. i sat down with him and asked him why. >> why trump is very simple and it's not based on a political agenda. it's based on the quality of a great executive that i have experienced as an adversary, as an investor with him, as a friend, and in finding some factors that you don't see in his bravado every day, which is compassion, humility, and his unbelievable ability to talk simply and clearly to the normal person and then adapt the situation to various points of view. i think he's one of the few individuals in our world that would sacrifice where he is to do what he wants to do. >> you mention a word to

describe donald trump that i think a lot of people watching either think you're crazy or want to know what they're missing and that word was humility. humility and donald trump, explain how those things go together. >> he's charismatic, he's bold, he's charming, he's confident. in the first 30 seconds, you size up a man. you say great. this is a leader. over the ensuing years what i found was this unbelievable softness, this kindness, this humanity to the doorman at madison square garden, to the janitor who is cleaning one of his office buildings, to the arab muslim in one of his projects in dubai, to the pan a panamaman working in his hotel. he listens.

he's compassionate and he connects. that's because internally i really do believe he is a very humble man. >> you mention an arab muslim. of course, obviously one of the most inflammatory things donald trump has said is he would temporarily ban muslims from coming to the united states. you've done a lot of business with a saudi prince, who when donald trump said that took to twitter and said, you are a disgrace not only to the gop but to all america. withdraw from the u.s. presidential race as you will never win. tom, in addition to doing business in the middle east, you are a lebanese american. do you have a problem with what donald trump has said about muslims? how do you get your arms around that? so let me give you both sides. the prince is probably the greatest example of young saudi generational leadership in the

world. he's brilliant. he's astute. he's concise. he's a global investor and strangely enough he has a lot of the same attributes in his part of the world that donald has in ours. he's doing the right thing for what he needs to do in marking ground and donald is doing the right thing in what he needs. he's drawing fences that he knows will be broken. when donald is including 1.8 billion muslims in one package, i assure you that donald is not really thinking that that will be the case. i think what he's doing is sending a message in saying, look, muslim community, you need to take responsibility and accountability for yourselves in all the things that happened or we're going to have a very serious conversation. i think they're both right. although they've done business before, my solution to the middle east crisis would be put both of those individuals in a

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the murders of nicole brown simpson and ron goldman. a knife was found at the former estate of o.j. simpson. a police officer may have hold onto it for close to 20 years. >> i was really surprised. >> reporter: a shocking discovery in the murder case involving o.j. simpson. a knife reportedly found more than a decade ago on the football surfacing after being obtained by police in the last month from a retired lapd officer. >> he claimed that an individual who claimed to be a construction worker provided him with this knife claiming it was found on the property. >> reporter: the retired officer says the construction worker supposedly worked on the property. this could have been around the time of his demolition in 1998, three years after simpson was acquitted of murdering his wife nicole simpson and her friend ron goldman.

>> i don't have that information and the investigators have asked that we not be very descriptive about the knife. >> reporter: detectives will say forensic testing is under way for blood, dna, even fingerprints but police are holding back details as they vet whether or not this is all a hoax. investigators want to know why the officer who says he was given a knife while working security on a movie set waited so long to turn in the knife. >> i would think that an lapd officer, if this story is accurate as we're being told would know that any time you are -- you come into contact with evidence that you should and shall submit that to investigators. >> reporter: the surprising revelation comes as there's a renewed fascination with all things o.j. brought on by the epiix series "the people versus o.j. simpson." he g >> even president obama commentod the news today. >> i thought it may be useful to take a small break from the spectacle of the political season and now i gather o.j. to

focus on something that really matters to the american people. >> reporter: for the goldman family, the development isn't something they want to address saying it only creates more unnecessary hype and encourages the media circus. o.j. simpson remains in a nevada prison after being convicted of kidnapping and armed robbery in las vegas. most legal experts say simpson can never be retried for the two murders. >> there's the two verdicts in every case. there's the verdict of the trial which can't be reversed because of double jeopardy and the verdict of history which has no statute of limitations, no double jeopardy clause. >> reporter: back live at lapd headquarters, another perspective from the goldman's collection attorney. he says in his experience he's seen instances where someone who values something as a collectible tries to drive up the price by creating a media frenzy. and off camera the lapd captain telling me interesting timing. back to you now, erin. >> thank you paul vercammen.

harvey leven, founder of tmz who broke this news and paul callan who represented the estate of nicole brown simpson. let me start with you and what you're reporting here. you've reported there's evidence that blood may be on the knife. could it finally be, could this possibly be the missing murder weapon? >> well, it could, and that's what the lapd wants to determine. and that's why right now it's in kind of -- what they call organic testing where they are looking at hair, fingerprints or possible hair and fingerprints. it's going to go for dna testing next week. we just don't know. what we do know is that knife was buried. we literally just two minutes ago put up a story and i can give you some new interesting details. we now have talked to people connected with the cop who actually got this knife. and they -- here's the story he tells. this is the story he tells.

he retired in 1998. this knife was brought to him by this construction worker while he was doing security for a movie shoot in 2002. so it was after the demolition but the guy was doing some demolition work on the new house, and that's when the construction worker walked over to him in 2002. now the -- what i am told is this cop's position is that as soon as he got it, he called the west l.a. division of lapd and said i have a dirty, filthy, rusty knife that was found on the perimeter of o.j. simpson's property and i want you to know it. he says he was put on hold. a supervisor came on the line and the supervisor said it is a closed case. o.j. simpson was acquitted. he can't be tried again because of double jeopardy and we have no interest in it. and on that basis, he says he put it in his toolbox where it sat for almost 15 years.

so that's his position that he was actually given the okay by west lapd to do what he did. >> which is a very significant detail because people have been saying, oh, this guy got the knife and he's been sitting around with it, never turned it in. harvey reporting the guy says -- the police officer said he did and they said go away. we can't retry the guy. keep it to yourself. they are now doing dna testing. >> they are. and i think in the end it's highly unlikely that you'll come up with evidence linking him to the murder. as much as i would like to see that happen, and the reason i say that is even if simpson's blood were on the knife and nicole's, his wife's blood, that could be explained away. she used to visit the rockingham estate to pick up the kids. you really need ron goldman's dna on the knife. now there you'd have a piece of evidence that would link him to the murder. i have my doubts that a knife that's been missing and in the

ground for so long will have identifiable dna on it. >> harvey, what's your understanding? they are doing all the testing they possibly can right now, right? >> they have not started the dna testing yet. it's still in organic and they'll go to cerology next week. it's going to be difficult to turn up dna. if the knife was folded when it was buried, they'll have a better chance. i'm not that interested in whether o.j. simpson's blood is on it. i believe o.j. simpson committed the murders. i also believe he got help after the fact in getting rid of the clothing, the shoes and the knife. so if somebody helped him get that -- bury the knife or somebody did bury the knife, what if that person's dna turns up on the knife? then you know who the accessory after the fact was. and everybody has kind of been wondering. it's the o.j. simpson version of deep throat. you want to know who it is. maybe best case scenario it would unlock that.

>> there's a tight timeline on the evening of the murder. remember, simpson gets on a plane that night and flies to chicago. he had very limited time to bury the knife. so there probably was an accomplice. >> thank you both very much. a fascinating story that's riveted everybody, including president obama today. we'll be right back. don't just eat. mangia! bertolli. helps preparey themng right for a healthy future. but up to 90% fall short in getting key nutrients ... ...from food alone. let's do more. add one a day men's ... ...complete multivitamin. with vitamin d and magnesium to help support healthy blood pressure. one a day.

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