tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN March 14, 2016 9:00pm-10:01pm PDT
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that's it for us. thanks for watching. make sure you stay with cnn for complete coverage of all the super tuesday results tomorrow. "ac 360" starts right now. good evening. thanks for joining us and get ready for a day that will almost certainly live up to the name super tuesday especially on the republican side where it is do or die tuesday with big winner take all states like ohio and florida. by this time tomorrow night two gop candidates could be back on the game or on their way out. and one could have the nomination almost within reach. bernie sanders can narrow the gap with hillary clinton and for her to stop his momentum. however, most of the headlines tonight revolve around one party and one candidate and one thing, the republicans, donald trump and all the violence we've been
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seeing at his campaign events including that brawl in chicago on friday. trump accompanied by chris christie is campaigning right now in southeastern ohio. our jim acosta is there as well. he joins us now. so trump's final push before the two big primaries tomorrow what's his message in ohio in florida? >> reporter: first of all we should point out donald trump was able to get his message across without interruption at this rally. there were no disruptions, no protests. the trump campaign we should point out did require that the people attending this rally park miles away and then take buses to get here. you should see the line to get on those buses right now behind my camera. it's pretty incredible what one trump volunteer organizer here told us, that they were hoping that tactic could help tekeep drown the demonstrators and it worked. as for his message it was one attack after another on ohio governor john kasich. trump said at one point about kasich, "he can't make america great again. he's totally overrated." that was another quote. and that he has supported trade deals in the past that will
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destroy -- or have destroyed ohio jobs and will do so in the future. we should point out as we've been saying this is crunch time for donald trump and the rest of the candidates in this race for the gop nomination. you know, a rubio win in florida, a kasich victory here in ohio, that would essentially rewrite the narrative in this campaign, anderson, signaling for the first time trump may not have the necessary delegates to clinch the nomination. but a clean sweep tomorrow for trump would do the exact opposite. there would be no more muddle. this would clear away much of the field leaving ted cruz to battle it out with donald trump. trum many said today if he pulls off that kind of big night tomorrow night the rest of the party should rally behind him. anderson? >> jim acosta, thanks for that. ted cruz has a late campaign event shortly in decatur, illinois. he amped up his closing pitch today that a vote for kasich or rubio is a wasted vote. our sunlen serfaty joins us now. what's he been hitting on in his
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final push? >> his final pitch is all about his own campaign's viability. we saw him really amplify this message today on the campaign trail when he was talking to voters in illinois. he said point blank, the math matters here. so making something of an academic argument to argue about the realistic chances, what he sees as the realistic chances of his opponents and arguing point blank to voters saying if you support john kasich or if you support marco rubio, basically that is a wasted vote, arguing that he is the only one that because of the delegate math that is well positioned going into tomorrow to potentially beat donald trump. the cruz campaign has been trying to make this message for so long. they see tomorrow super tuesday as a chance to inch closer to that goal. so much of that hinges on how marco rubio and how john kasich do tomorrow in their respective home states. anderson? >> sunlen, we'll check in with you later. thank you. marco rubio has got what they're
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calling a homecoming rally tonight in west miami. now appears to be staking it all on his home state's 99 winner take all delegates. he also wavered over the weekend of whether he could support trump in november. he said it is getting harder every day. sara murray from west palm beach where another rubio event took place a short time ago. what about rubio's message tonight? >> marco rubio was much more reflective than we've seen him in recent days. he and his staff are looking at the same poll numbers we are. they know it's an uphill climb in florida. and his speech tonight was almost talking about the campaign he wished he had run, sort of making that his final stand. rather than the campaign he actually did run at certain points. you know, he even said tonight that he felt terrible for some of the attacks that he launched against donald trump, again reiterating that he embarrassed his family members, that he embarrassed some of his but he went hard against donald trump without really even talking about the candidate by name saying this is someone who encourages people to fight at his rallies. this is someone who has
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essentially turned this into a reality tv show. he tried to drive home the seriousness of the choice the voters are going to be making at the polls tomorrow night. and of course he asked for their vote. as you said, anderson, this state is really do or die for marco rubio, and i think we saw that all coming home tonight, that he has spent 11 months working up to this moment, and it all comes down for him to tomorrow. >> it certainly does. thank you, sara murray. ohio governor john kasich says he'll score a home state win tomorrow. he got help from 2012 nominee mitt romney but did not get his endorsement. phil mattingly joins us from ohio. certainly the stakes for john kasich tomorrow night are incredibly high. what does he do on this final day before the primary? >> it's more or less do or die. john kasich did today what he's been doing most of this week. trying to remind ohio republicans why 77% approved of him as recently as october 2015. now, he has serious strategic advantages in this state as you would expect for a home state governor, anderson.
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he has a significant operation. he has the state party support. and he has a super pac that's put seven-figure ads up and has more than 30 staffers just focused on that state. still even his advisers are willing to acknowledge it is a very close race. he's been rising in the polls kind of stretching the lead a little bit over donald trump but really utilizing mitt romney today. two big events. one out in stark county, one down here in westerville which straddles two counties, franklin and delaware. that's important for this reason, anderson. those were three huge counties for mitt romney in 2012 when he won ohio by just 10,000 votes. the turnout in those counties will be crucial to how john kasich does tomorrow. mitt romney trying to give him if not an endorsement at least a little bit of a boost as he tries to stop donald trump tomorrow night. >> i'm going to talk to governor kasich in the broadcast tonight. i'm going to ask him if he's still going to support the nominee, even if it is donald trump. as we heard marco rubio say it gets harder every day. we'll see what the governor says about that and his chances tomorrow.
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i want to bring in our panel, glorgia borger, john king, also our political commentators ross outfit, kayleigh mcenany. ross is a conservative columnist for the "new york times." kayleigh's a conservative columnist, a trump supporter. trar tara's a former communications director for republican congressman dana rohrabacher. peter beinart is none of those things. he's a liberal-leaning contributor to "the atlantic" "the atlantic." and a professor of political science at the city university of new york. gloria, the tone, the tenor of this republican race, the huge stakes tomorrow. what do you expect? is there any way to know? >> we could end up with four candidates still in the race. we could end up with two candidates in the race after tomorrow night. >> those are the options. >> what we do know for certain is that donald trump is going to gain some delegates, and we don't know how many. and i think that for john kasich, as we've been saying, for john kasich over and out, if he doesn't win ohio and the same
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for marco rubio if he doesn't win his home state. i think cruz, talking to cruz people, they believe they have a path forward no matter what happens tomorrow. they believe they'll be able to pick up some delegates. maybe not win anywhere. but pick up some delegates. and they vow to continue no matter what. but to answer your question, we don't know what to expect. >> a lot of early voting in florida. it's a state that likes to vote early. people were saying that broke for marco rubio because people had made up their minds to support him in any decline he reached, they'd already voted by then. do we know what the polls show in florida? >> the rubio people think they did quite well. with the early vote. one of the complications. if you look at the polls, in most of the polls he's down 15, 18, in some polls even 20 points. that's pretty discouraging. now, in this campaign we've learned believe nothing, nothing is certain and every day brings a new surprise. but the interesting fact, if he closes strong in florida we might have a dynamic tomorrow night where yes, let's say rubio
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does fine in the early vote but jeb bush gets a healthy chunk of the early votes. if rubio closed in the end we could get to a point if he falls 5,000, 6,000 votes short that jeb bush's early vote is a determining factor in that raise. look, today is the storm before the reset. everybody's out there being busy. if trump has a big night, if he runs the board -- >> if he wins florida and ohio, is it over? >> you assume if he wins florida and ohio he's also winning north carolina and missouri because of the demographics. if you're winning states as diverse as florida and ohio, you're probably also winning north carolina and missouri. depends how many delegates cruz can pick up in missouri. but donald trump has a chance tomorrow night to end up in the ballpark of 800 delegates. if he's in the ballpark of 800, he needs about 42%, 44% of the remaining delegates. that's gettable. whether it's a three-way race or a two-way race. that's doable. if he loses florida and ohio, and i'll show you the math in detail a little later, if he loses both of them you're almost guaranteed an open convention as long as cruz and whoever stays. if it's rubio and kasich or just kasich. if they do okay down the path,
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trump will still get to the convention the leader. but if he loses both -- if he loses one of florida and ohio, the likelihood of an open convention is up there, then we're going to have a wrestling match. if he loses both it's probably an open convention. >> ross, the violence we saw particularly on friday, how do you think that plays either for or against donald trump? >> i think in the short term it probably helps him a little bit. i mean, everything is happening on the margins here's because there's, as we can see, so much information out there and so many things swirling around. >> but you think it actually helps him? >> i think that if you think did this -- think about it from the perspective of a conservative casual news consumer. they haven't followed every one of trump's rallies closely. they probably don't know that he's been essentially goading people in the stands to hit protesters over the course of the year. and so what they see is kind of a mob scene of protesters shutting down trump's rally and trump saying, well, the police told us we had to shut it down. that's not actually true but that's what's trump says. you know, from a conservative
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perspective, a narrative where angry protesters shut down conservative politicians' rally, that's not necessarily a bad thing. i mean, it is a bad thing but it's not necessarily something where they say this must be the politicians' fault. >> do you think this helps? >> yeah, i think in the short term because of the way -- what ross just said. most people are very -- they have short memories. they don't cover it like we do. they don't live and breathe politics the way we do. >> you mean they have actual lives. >> yeah. outside of the election they have real lives. but that's what they see and they do see disruptive leftist, ilinskyite protesters, very reminiscent of the black lives matter disruptions. most people look at that independently and say this is not how you react to objectionable speech. however you feel about donald trump. but unfortunately the other side of it is that donald trump does have a certain responsibility here but he's been very clever in his denials of this. he continually repeats that, oh, well, i say we have peaceful
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protesters. there's no violence there. as if we all don't see what we see and hear what he says. but he continues to repeat those lies in a way to try to create something like we're all crazy. >> but that's what he does -- >> correct. that's been characteristic of his entire campaign. >> repeating lies is the theme of the trump campaign. >> his entire campaign, dishonest. >> there's a larger theme. which is that one of the ways that donald trump incites fear among his supporters is to portray outsiders as violent even when there's no evidence they are. right? he portrays -- remember when he talked about mexicans -- the first thing he said about mexican undocumented immigrants coming across the border, they're criminals and rapists. right? the vast, vast majority, even if you're a hard-liner on illegal immigration, are not doing violence. the same thing with syrian refugees. remember, they were strong men. right? the implication, the vast, vast majority of syrian refugees have nothing to do with violence. it's the same thing with the protesters. yes, some of the protesters are obnoxious. some of them may yell on sents. there's very little evidence that these protesters have actually been violent.
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and yet donald trump repeatedly again and again and again describes them as violent in order to legitimize the violence of his supporters. >> peter, there have been more violent protesters than have tl have been violent trump supporters. in fact when you go and watch -- >> i've looked at this pretty carefully and that is not entirely not true. >> i looked at is it very carefully. >> who are the violent protesters? >> there have been three incidents with trump supporters. the 78-year-old man. two other incidents. it was one trump supporter engaging in some sort of physical altercation. meanwhile, in the last two days alone -- >> that's actually not true. in fact there was one encounter of an african-american woman who was jostled around by a number of people. >> correct. that is one of the -- >> you're referring to the breitbart reporter who was manhandled by cory -- >> just for accuracy you're saying there's three incidents. you're counting the one incident in which a number of people manhandle and jostle and spit at -- >> i'm saying total there have been three incidences -- >> but there are numerous people involved in those incidences. >> compare that to in the last three days we've seen three large-scale incidences on the part of protesters.
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in the "washington post" about how protesters -- they had to use tear gas on the proefrptss, the police did, in order to disperse the protesters. on friday night when you watch those videos it's not people in trump shirts engaging in the violence. it is the protesters. people with anti-trump signs. >> but does it concern you at all that your candidate has encouraged that? by saying i would like to punch this person. back in the old days we were able to do this, now we're so politically correct we can't do it, i'm going to pay your legal bills. does that concern you at all? >> if i were a candidate i would not have chosen those words -- >> no, no, but as somebody who's supporting this candidate. the man you're supporting. does it concern you as somebody -- you're practicing to be a lawyer. does that concern you, that somebody's going to be president of the united states and saying back in the good old days we would be able to just, you know, beat these people up -- >> it concerns me that barack obama -- >> don't change the subject. >> it's important. >> let me -- >> no, because you're -- he gave you three opportunities to answer and you deflected. so you know what? >> he didn't give me -- >> you're continuing to deflect,
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which is what donald trump supporters -- >> i'd love the world to hear how you even as an evangelical which you claim to be how you can look at what's going on there and that's acceptable to you. >> i watched the don lemon interview between don lemmon and trump friday night. seven times and i have the time stamps. trump said i denounce violence. likewise he went on an alternate network afterward and said it four times -- >> but after saying i'd like to punch them, if they throw tomatoes just knock them out for me. >> when i say obama everyone says that was 2008. it's important to compare apples to apples. in 2008 barack obama said you need to bring a gun to a knife fight. i know people in phillies and you like to brawl, i've seen eagles fans. that is a violent statement. it can be interpreted as such. it was a jestful statement. likewise trump's statements were jestful. in hindsight they were regrettable. >> jestful? >> justifiable. >> however, i think it's important to compare that other candidates have made similar statements in the past. >> but the issue with trump, right? is that this is the shtick. and it's the same thing with you know, the kkk interview.
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right? if you have donald trump on set here and ask him the question do you disavow the kkk do you disavow violence and so on he'll say. . he'll say it four times, he'll say it seven times. he'll say it 11 times. but the next day at the protest -- at his rally he's going to get up there and he's going to make a joke again. a joke, right? >> when is the last time he made a statement i want to punch a protester -- he has changed his rhetoric since that point. when is the last time -- >> he's changed his rhetoric since the chicago protest? >> since it actually got violent he has changed his rhetoric. >> so 48 hours? >> they were attacked before the chicago protest. >> he said he would look into paying the legal bills of a supporter who knocked -- almost knocked out a protester leaving peacefully. >> right. and that was a complete sucker punch of a guy who was just walking by him. >> and just for the record, you didn't answer the question. and that, for me, as an actual conservative, lifelong conservative and a person that believes in integrity and character, i find it despicable that you trump supporters cannot
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simply just disavow his despicable behavior and his double speak -- >> i said i wish he wouldn't have said those statements. >> but you just said it's justifiable. you said as a lawyer it was justifiable what he said. >> tara. >> let her answer. >> why can't you just say no? >> you just said he'd pay the 78-year-old's legal fees. >> he assaulted someone. >> this isn't about his age. i'm trying to finish my statement. in that same statement he made he said nothing condones a sucker punch. i would like to take a look at what happened. >> double speak. >> but kayleigh, you can just take a look at -- i mean, donald trump watches tv more than any candidate i've ever seen. he could very easily be watching us now. >> he's watching us now. >> he watches all the coverage. you can't tell me that he hasn't seen the video of that 70-something-year-old white guy sucker-punching this african-american man right here. here it is again. he's got to have seen it. anybody who's seen it. and to say that you would consider paying the fees for that guy who later on was quoted as saying you know, that guy
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might have been from isis, next time we might have to kill him. you're going to pay his -- >> from that video, that's is inexcusable. what we see in that video clip is absolutely inexcusable. no excuse for what that man did. however if you took that into a court of law they would ask what happened in the ten seconds before that and the ten seconds after that. >> nothing happens between those two people because wherever that man was protesting was further down. he was just walking by and this man saw an opportunity -- >> we don't know what he did -- >> what is true from the beginning, because of the nature of trump's rallies, because he started out, you know, talking in very vivid language about illegal immigration, his rallies have attracted a different kind of protester than marco rubio's rallies. right? >> or ted cruz's rallies. >> but this is the thing. in a sense up until a couple weeks ago you could say this in trump's defense. you could say look, other candidates weren't having, you know, sort of large-scale groups of protesters go in and try to be disruptive.
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and the way people -- >> although bernie sanders did and basically was booted off the stage -- >> bernie sanders responded in an utterly different way than donald trump. >> we've got to take a break. we'll continue this discussion a lot to talk about in the next couple hours of "360" coverage. including issue of violence at trump's rallies and as we've been investigating the candidate's claim that there is none, that it is in his words a lovefest. later i'll speak with ohio governor john kasich who says a home state victory tomorrow could propel him all the way to the nomination and y07bd and would he still support trump for the nomination if in fact trump gets there? we'll be right back. ♪ can't afford to let heartburn get in the way? try nexium 24hr, now the #1 selling brand for frequent heartburn. get complete protection with the new leader in frequent heartburn. that's nexium level protection. its intelligent drive is msystems...ng. paradigm-shifting.
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spring is on. start your trugreen lawn plan today. bye now. trugreen. live life outside. we're talking tonight sometimes quite passionately about the republican front-runner and the violence at his campaign events. there's breaking news on that note. we've just learned a north carolina sheriff's office has just decided ton bring charges against donald trump or his campaign of inciting a riot in the sucker punching of that protester last week at a rally in fayetteville. now, today as you know trump denied there's a violence problem surrounding his
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campaign. >> the press is now calling saying oh, there's such violence. no violence. you know how many people have been hurt at our rallies? i think like basically none other than, i guess, maybe somebody got hit once? but there's no violence. >> keeping them honest. we've been seeing these last weeks and over the weekend, the evidence suggests otherwise. whoever you support, whoever you blame for it, it is hard to deny there is something different about trump events. our gary tuchman has more. >> reporter: there would be no wandering in to this last donald trump rally before super tuesday 3. that's because people attending the rally took buses from a parking lot about seven miles away from the youngstown, ohio airport rally site. trump organizers say it was not done this way to try to keep out possible trump opponents. they say parking was limited. but one of the trump volunteers helping to board people on the buses wasn't completely on message. >> people walk in with, you
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know, trump's a bad guy. you don't want that. this is a rally, and it's paid for by trump. so we want trump supporters there. >> reporter: security keeps getting more elaborate at trump rallies. as the buses pulled in, secret service, local police and private security were keeping a close eye on everything. inside the hangar where people awaited donald trump's arrival many were looking over their shoulders. >> if you see protesters here, what will you do? >> tell them to go whine somewhere else. >> those people have an agenda. >> what is their agenda? >> to destroy. >> reporter: this past weekend saw more tumult on the trump campaign circuit following the violence in chicago on friday. secret service and trump's private security scrambled when a man charged toward the stage at an ohio rally. trump was noticeably startled but continued on. another weekend rally in kansas city, donald trump showed no signs of flexibility for
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protesters. >> hello, darling. go home to mom. go home to mommy. get them out. get them out. out. >> i hope these guys get thrown into a jail. >> we are going to take our country back from those people, those people. they do nothing. >> reporter: on sunday, this is what trump said on cnn's "state of the union." >> when i say things like i'd like to punch him, this was a person that was absolutely violent and was like a crazed individual. a lot of them are -- i don't even call them protesters. i call them disruptors. >> reporter: the trump supporters we talked to here have no problem with their candidate's more controversial comments. >> do you think donald trump bears any responsibility for that? >> no. the media should stop showing it over and over. because then that makes people want to do it. >> so it's the news media's fault? >> it's the news media. it's not donald trump. he's perfect. >> reporter: people can argue until they're blue in the face
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about who's responsible for the violence at the recent donald trump rallies. but what's evident is that everyone realizes there is potential for more of it. >> get them out of here! >> reporter: many people here say trump should not change his language toward protesters one bit. >> i think we need a leader who has authority and is in charge. if that's what it takes to be in charge, that's what's it takes. >> you think that's an okay message? >> fine with me. >> gary tuchman joins us from tonight's trump event. did the increase in security make a difference in tonight's rally? >> well, put it this way, anderson. if you ever wanted to be a campaign manager for a candidate and wanted to keep political opponents out, the smart thing to do would be to have your rallies in an airport hangar, not in any neighborhood-a way from houses and businesses and make people take a bus for seven miles. because if you were a protester and you got in trouble here you would not want to ride a bus for seven miles back with about 50 or 60 people who hate you. so we can tell you tonight there were zero disruptions here. >> gary tuchman. back with our panel.
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joining us also is senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. no charges filed in north carolina. is there exposure for a campaign if there is violence at a rally? >> in the direction we're heading, it's possible. certainly in north carolina there was no justification for an incitement charge. if you look at the statute, there was no way -- >> this is from the guy sucker punching the man as he walks by? >> right. it has to be a riot. and whatever you think of that event, you can't describe that as a riot. but there are statutes on the books in many states that make it unlawful to whip people up into such a frenzy that violence exists. there are also statutes in some jurisdictions that say disrupting a speech or a political event can be a crime as well. so both the pro and anti-trump people have risks of getting arrested. and also the authorities are not going to put up with this. and they're going to start canceling trump events if they feel like they can't control it -- >> the thing about the sucker punch i didn't quite understand is the older man punches the
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african-american man as he's walking by and then the police did nothing about the guy in the hat doing the punching. they wrestled the african-american man to the ground and i assume arrested him. that's minutes after -- seconds after he's sucker-punched he gets wrestled to the ground by either private security or police and is hustled out. nothing initially happened to that older man. >> though he was later. >> later on he was arrested. >> he was later arrested. but i mean ask yourself, would he be arrested if we didn't have that video? >> right. >> i think the answer to that is self-evident. but clearly what he did is a crime. that's an assault. under all the circumstances that we're aware of now. and these kind of cases are going to start to be charged. the cops are going to be much more closely enforcing the law in these places. and the question will be, can they sustain this? can they allow this to go forward if it gets worse than it is now? >> if you're donald trump and you watch that video, as i'm sure he's done over and over again, how do you not go before
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your crowds and say we know we're going to have these so-called disruptors. >> well, he did that. my understanding is there are recorded messages before the rallies begin saying don't get involved with protesters, let law enforcement -- which is sensible and understandable. >> right. but if you're the candidate and your supporters listen to you, what would be so wrong with standing up there yourself and saying everybody has a right to protest, we don't believe in violence here, we're not going to encourage violence, we don't want people to disrupt our rally but use a different kind of language if you are running for president of the united states? it's a whole different level of a game here, right? >> isn't that part of -- >> but that's -- i mean, why would trump use different language? this is the core -- >> because it's getting -- >> but this is the core of trump's appeal. you think if he's watching us right now and hears jeffrey say, oh, you know the authorities might slap some charges on his campaign, he wants the authorities to slap charges on his campaign.
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his campaign was desperately hoping i'm sure that somebody in north carolina would charge them with something because the whole raw visceral appeal of trump is, you know, the man who tells it like it is no matter what. the man who is standing up for you against -- you heard him there. against those protesters and so on. there's a little bit of how george wallace handled these things in the late '60s and there's a little bit of the wwe. trump was a wwe guest star, world wrestling. >> but i think that's completely misunderstanding trump's supporters. because i think the aggressive rhetoric is something trump supporters tolerate and they see it as the cost of change. i think most trump supporters don't support him because he said he wants to punch a protest in the face. in fact, many trump supporters wish he wouldn't say things like that. rather they see it as the price for change. changing the republican platform, making it a more anti-free trade platform, making it protective of social security benefits, something republicans have --
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>> you think the guy who punched him was concerned about free traded? >> not that guy. i think he's the outlier, though. >> isn't tells it like it is one of the top qualities that every primary night of the four qualities, tells it like it is. you don't think sort of tough talk to protesters not labeling everything political correctness, whatever gloria just -- what gloria just said would be labeled the epitome of political correctness by donald trump. >> i think we shouldn't be naive here. we have some data. in south carolina 70% of donald trump supporters didn't want the confederate flag taken down. this man's major highlights of political involvement in the last years have been this he crusade to show that barack obama was not really born in the united states. the announcement for president in which he called mexicans rapists. and then calling for the banning of an entire religion into the country. if you don't believe that that is inciting racial fear and hostility, you are out of your mind. >> you are more inciting racial fear and hostility than donald trump because -- >> i haven't called for banning an entire religion fren teom eng
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the united states, thank you very much. >> you are the only person who said that. donald trump has -- >> he called for temporarily banning muslims from entering the united states -- >> non-u.s. citizen muslims. >> here's what i'd like to say to you. let me tell you how i as a jew would react. if someone called for o' temporarily banning non-american citizen jews from the united states i would get into their rally every single time i had an opportunity. i don't blame people one bit given the hatred he has spewed. >> you sit here and say that trump supporters wish he wouldn't say those things. but i'm sorry. we watched thousands of people cheer and go nuts at these rallies when he says these outrageous things. so obviously there are plenty of trump supporters who love what he has to say. and i don't know about you, but i've never in my life as my total adult life i've been a republican and conservative working on conservative issues, working for republican causes. i worked for seven years on
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capitol hill for a conservative republican congressman who worked for ronald reagan. i think i have my conservative chops here. i don't know about you. but for me i have never in my life been called the most despicable, horrible, racial names, names against women, telling me to go pick cotton. you should be a slave and go back to africa from donald trump supporters. who are in that. so don't say that he hasn't ginned up some of the lowest common denominator horrible things in the republican -- >> can i ask you -- >> that's a very poor argument because i've received terrible things from the anti-trump crowd. i don't think that's a great -- >> can i -- >> guys, nobody can hear if you all talk at once. >> i just want to ask, are you talking mostly about online attacks or in person? >> she's talking about twitter. >> online only because i haven't been -- i won't go to a trump rally. >> this is the thing about -- and this isn't a defense of donald trump. it's just an important thing to keep in mind. the donald trump phenomenon is actually complex, right? if you -- the donald trump
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supporters who crowd twitter are disproportionately anti-semitic white supremacists in sort of an open explicit way who -- >> that's telling. >> it is telling. but it's also -- trump is clearly playing a game where he's trying to keep those people in the tent. >> that's my point. >> but it's also important to note because donald trump is being supported by millions and millions of americans that there are a lot of trump supporters who do wish that these people weren't saying that and -- >> nearly 50% of the gop do believe nearly 50% of the gop because he was at 49% -- >> 35 -- >> a cnn poll had him at 39%. does that mean that 50% of the gop is everything you just described, those horrific terms? >> not in totality but there's a large enough amount he's been able to bring this ugliness out and that should be concerning to those other people who support donald trump. what is it about him that is bringing that out in folks. and as a republican and a conservative that we have alternatives to someone like this. that should be very concerning. and it should be -- that's something people should pay a lot of attention to.
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>> all six candidates campaigned hard today making a final pitch to voters. john king going to break down what's at stake for all of them tomorrow on super tuesday 3. we'll be right back. look like this. feel like this. look like this. feel like this. with dreamwalk insoles, turn shoes that can be a pain into comfortable ones. their soft cushioning support means you can look like this. and feel like this. dreamwalk.
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welcome back. it's the eve of super tuesday 3. five states holding primaries including florida and ohio. the first winner take all contest on the republican side. hundreds of delegates up for grabs. john kasich, marco rubio, their home state pride is also on the line. john king is here to break it down by the numbers at the match-up wall. let's take a look at the republicans. >> let's start with the numbers, anderson. for both parties, 691 democratic delegates at stake. 367 for the republicans. you see the five big states here. let's take a look at how this works for the republicans. if donald trump runs the board, wins them all, florida, north carolina, ohio, illinois and missouri, depending on the delegate split-up in missouri and north carolina which are not winner-take-all, illinois as well but if you win by a decent margin you get the bulk of the delegates. he could end up in the ballpark of 800 delegates. we have it at 790 in this projection. somewhere in the ballpark of 00 delegates. if he gets here he only has to win 44%, maybe 43% of the delegates from there on out to get to the magic number of 1237. if donald trump runs the board
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it is very possible he will clinch before the convention. you'll lose at least -- >> no brokered convention -- >> there's still a chance for ted cruz to stop him. and he's going into a part of the country new york, pennsylvania, maryland he thinks he can do pretty well if he wins them all. what happens if just john kasich wins ohio and donald trump wins florida? rubio likely dropds out. castive stays. at this point it's more of a dicey question. but trump would need 52%, 55%, depending on the delegate split in missouri and north carolina. here it gets to maybe an open convention. here's the key. if this happens tomorrow night, if somehow marco rubio can defy the polls and win florida, kasich also wins ohio at this point you've got trump about the halfway point. he would have to win 60-plus percent of the delegates from here on out. he's not winning at that rate right now. if you get him back here you're almost guaranteeing an open convention. if he's somewhere in the middle, if it's just ohio maybe an open convention if trump runs the board don't bet on it. >> what about the democratic side? >> democratic side is
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interesting. if you flip it over here secretary clinton runs the board again the same five states. because of the democratic rules assuming she's running 55-45, somewhere in that ballpark, it might be higher in north carolina because of the african-american vote, she'll pull ahead pretty convincingly. doesn't look as far. with you at this point bernie sanders has to start winning other states 60, 65% because of proportional rules to catch up. big states to do it. if she runs the board you can say tomorrow night she is the overwhelming prohibitive favorite and his math is not impossible but almost impossible. so this is what bernie sanders wants to do. number one, follow his big michigan upset with a win in ohio. wouldn't change their math all that much. but it would change the conversation. two industrial states, two blue-collar states, two key states for democrats in the general election. bernie sanders' dream, though, is to run the board in the midwest, to take illinois and ohio so that he could make a case to democrats. the math would still be very tough, anderson. bernie sanders, even if he won them both, would have to start winning at a rate of 60%, 65% to start catching up on the delegates. very unlikely to happen but that would change the conversation of
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the campaign. it would expose hillary clinton as weak among blue-collar workers. if sanders coned the night there tomorrow you've got a chance to change the race. if hillary clinton can run the board, than sanders is going anywhere but she would have a very convincing case that this is mine. >> john king, a lot to watch for tomorrow. we talked about governor kasich. my interview with him next. >> we don't crush our small businesses -- ♪ ♪ we belong together ♪ we belong together ♪ yes we do (announcer) the best deserves the best. get the new samsung galaxy s7 edge and we'll give you up to $650 to switch to verizon. america's #1 network. it's my job and it's i takealso my passion.rises. but with my back pain i couldn't sleep... so i couldn't get up in time. then i found aleve pm.
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governor john kasich is campaigning in his home state of ohio a day before voters in that key battleground state head to the polls. he has company from 2012 nominee mitt romney who has not officially endorsed him but said this today. >> you look at this guy and unlike the other people running, he has a real track record. he has the kind of record that you want in washington. and that's why i'm convinced you'll do the right thing tomorrow. agreed? >> i spoke with governor kasich just a short time ago. governor, how do you feel heading into tomorrow? all along you've said ohio is still a must-win for you. is it still that way? >> oh, yeah. we're going to win ohio. i feel very good. i think it's going to happen because we've had a good record here of job growth and economic gains. and i think when people take a look at some of the nonsense
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they're seeing on the campaign trail, the negativity, name calling, i think they are becoming -- really recognizing that the positive campaign really makes a difference. >> donald trump has been going after you attacking you in the way he attacked chris christie before christie endorsed him. calling you an absentee governor. hitting you for supporting nafta. in a tight race could this make the difference for him? >> no. he's not going to win here. all this negative campaigning. look, when you live in ohio and you're the governor of ohio, you take a pounding from people. and they distort records and all of that. but as arnold schwarzenegger told me in 2010, love the beatings, john. and i love the beatings. we're going to be fine tomorrow. and we're going to be moving on. and it's going to get very interesting. >> you and trump have ratcheted up criticism in recent days. you've said he's created a toxic environment, pointing to comments he's made, incidents of violence at his rally. he said those are outside agitators who come to stir things up and provoke his
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supporters. do you buy that? >> no, i don't at all. in fact, donald trump in some of his rhetoric at these rallies that i just read, yesterday was the first time i read them, is aproeshs. atrocious. it is not the mark of a leader of the united states of america. i am deeply disturbed by what i've read and then i happened to see that rally in chicago. there's no doubt that people will show up and cause trouble. but the toxic atmosphere has been created by pitting one group of people against another whether it's name calling mexicans or name calling muslims or the things he said about women. it just -- the list goes on and on. so you know, i'm very concerned about it. i'm not out here to -- i've run a very positive campaign. but at some point when you watch these things you've got to speak. and i've had this to say and i'll have more to say a little bit farther down the road. >> you've taken a pledge to support the nominee, whoever it is. that pledge seems to be --
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>> i said he makes it very hard. and i will have more to say about all of this when we get down the road. i am very, very disturbed about what i have seen and what i have read. >> so at this point would you still support him if he's the nominee? >> i will have more to say about donald trump and the nature of his campaign when we get farther down the road. >> and governor, just the path forward. assuming you win tomorrow in ohio, what then begins to change for you? >> well, look. we're rising in illinois. for the first time, you know, people are beginning to hear me. we see good poll numbers really across the country. and i'm going to have to just work extremely hard. we're going to head to pennsylvania on wednesday. we expect real success with our events over there. we're going to travel everywhere. i'm looking forward to getting in a covered wagon and rolling out to the west out to colorado, the rockies, all the way out to california. i'm looking forward to going to the eastern seaboard. i'm looking forward to maryland. a lot of things we can do and
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i'm very upbeat and optimistic about where we're headed. >> you'll need a motor in that covered wagon to make up all those -- >> i'm going to have a ball out there. the wind will be blowing. it will be at my back for the first time in this election. >> governor kasich, thank you very much for joining us. >> all right, anderson. thank you. >> we'll see what happens tomorrow for his campaign. that pledge to support the eventual nominee provides plenty for the panel to weigh in on. we'll check back in with them next. ♪ what if we invented a paint that's not only in the top of its class but lets you breathe as deeply as this or this or this. not guilty. if it doesn't upset your allergies like paint, is it still paint? natura is certified asthma and allergy friendly. and you can only find it at your benjamin moore retailer. ... 83% try to eat healthy. yet up 90% fall short in
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we just heard from governor kasich who has high hopes for tomorrow. a lot to talk about with our panel. ross, what do you make about -- it seems like both he and rubio are coming close to backing off the idea of supporting him if he's the nominee. >> yeah. and i'm guessing that rubio is waiting to sort of have his last run in florida and that after that, if he drops out of the race or suspends his campaign or something, then there will be pressure on him to actually say i'm not going to support trump. kasich has actually -- it's actually a little striking that he said that. because his play all along has actually been not to mix it up with trump at all.
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and he had that sort of shocked like -- oh, i only saw these things a few days ago. before that, i didn't know what was going on. i'm actually surprised that he's taking that rubio-esque pivot at this point. >> but kasich's brand has always been i don't get into the mud and then when he saw the rally as he said, or read about it, it would kind of be antithetical to who he has defined himself as if he didn't say something about it. >> is it strange to have a mitt romney campaigning for john kasich but not endorsing john kasich? >> well, not in a campaign where after you come in third you give a speech about how you just made history tonight. this is the campaign we're living in, where third is first and romney's telling people to vote for a guy without endorsing the guy. he leaned semi forward saying this guy has the track record. look, we're living in a parallel universe in a campaign. but to the point -- these are big decisions the party is going to have to make. john kasich may be in his last term as governor. marco rubio, we don't know what he's going to do if he loses in
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florida and he's out of the race. we don't know if he runs for office in the future or if he just goes into private business. but there are a lot of very important people, speaker ryan today saying he's very troubled by what's happening at these trump rallies. are they going to walk away from the person that their voters are 2340789ing and are they going to start a third party or are they going to say we're never going to vote for him and we're not going to show up at the conventi convention, show up at the convention and give a milquetoast speech and go home? this is the party of lincoln and reagan which is facing the choice whether to ride this bull for one cycle or walk away from him. >> well, how does marco rubio turn around and after calling trump a con man and a fraud and say, oh, by the way, he should be president of the united states? >> i don't think he does. >> but he said he would. >> he already said -- >> ted cruz said he'd do it just because he gave his word and he didn't want to go back on it. >> cruz is taking a different line. >> we've got to go. we have much more on our panel in the next hour of "360." we'll put some of donald trump's claims to the reality check. see when he's telling the truth and when he's stretching it to the breaking point. we'll be right back.
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show me funny movies. watch discovery. record this. voila. remotes you are back. the x1 voice remote is here. x1 customers get your voice remote by visiting xfinty.com/voiceremote. good evening. one of the biggest days ahead in the battle for the white house. we are fast approaching super tuesday part 3 which unlike "jaws 3" and godfather part 3 promises to be a truly compelling sequel. and it is before the most compelling storyline involves donald trump. we begin with our jim acosta. >> reporter: one day before what's likely to be the biggest super tuesday yet, donald trump just wants his critics to feel the love. >> these are lovefests. >> usa! usa! >> reporter: as more protesters were removed from another trump rally, this time in north carolina, the
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