watch discovery. record this. voila. remotes you are back. the x1 voice remote is here. x1 customers get your voice remote by visiting xfinty.com/voiceremote. good evening. one of the biggest days ahead in the battle for the white house. we are fast approaching super tuesday part 3 which unlike "jaws 3" and godfather part 3 promises to be a truly compelling sequel. and it is before the most compelling storyline involves donald trump. we begin with our jim acosta. >> reporter: one day before what's likely to be the biggest super tuesday yet, donald trump just wants his critics to feel the love. >> these are lovefests. >> usa! usa! >> reporter: as more protesters were removed from another trump rally, this time in north carolina, the gop front-runner

blamed democrats for the chaos at his events. >> the democrats are seeing what's happening, and they try and disrupt what's happening. but it's not a big deal. they stand up, they shout for a couple of seconds, then they get whisked out. >> reporter: trump told wolf blitzer the media is also at fault for hyping the protests. >> there's not much violence. let's not even use the word violence. there's very little disruption generally speaking. >> reporter: sarah palin had some choice words for the demonstrators, labeling them thugs at a trump rally in tampa. >> what we don't have time for is all that petty punk-ass little thuggery stuff. >> reporter: but after a near riot when trump canceled his rally in chicago, that protester who tried to confront trump in ohio, and the police pepper spraying demonstrators in kansas city, the other republican candidates are warning their party could face a grim future. >> if donald trump is the nominee, we're going to lose. every day he behaves the way he's behaving now, inciting

anger and frustration, he's making it harder and harder. >> reporter: but republicans may not have much of a choice if trump sweeps the five big states up for grabs tuesday. slowing trump's momentum florida won't be easy for marco rubio who is predicting an upset win. >> tomorrow is the day. tomorrow is the day we're going to shock the country. >> reporter: looking much better in his home state is ohio governor john kasich. who's also railing against trump with the help of former gop nominee mitt romney. >> leadership is not encouraging a toxic environment where we blame one group because of the failure of another. this country is not about us tearing one another down. or having fist fights at campaign rallies. >> bimbo. >> dog. >> fat pig. >> real quotes from donald trump. >> about women. >> reporter: an anti-trump superpac is piling on with this new ad portraying the real estate tycoon as offensive to women voters. >> if donald trump is the nominee, he is a disaster. >> reporter: ted cruz is in agreement on the trump effect on

the gop. he just differs on how to stop him. arguing kasich and rubio just don't have a shot at the nomination. >> with john kasich it's real simple. it's mathematically impossible for him to become the nominee. he cannot beat donald trump. so a vote for john kasich or a vote for marco rubio is a vote that's thrown away. >> jim acosta joins us now. pretty clear -- we all know the stakes are enormous for the republican candidates tomorrow, jim. >> that's right. they are enormous. a rubio win in florida, although it may not be very likely, coupled with a kasich victory would essentially rewrite the entire narrative of this campaign signaling for the first time that trump may not have the delegates necessary to clinch the nomination. but if you look at it from the opposite direction, a clean sweep tomorrow for donald trump would essentially clear away much of the field leaving basically a wounded ted cruz all by himself as the last anti-trump candidate standing. we should point out donald trump is feeling the pressure here in ohio. he just wrapped up this event outside of the youngstown airport.

he went after john kasich, said he can't make america great again, said he was totally overrated. so donald trump certainly knows what's at stake here. if he cannot beat kasich in ohio, it becomes a muddle after that. and who knows who gets out, who stays in, how long all of this can last. it could go on for several months, into the summer, if it isn't ended decisively tomorrow. >> jim, thanks very much. more now on donald trump. the claims he makes and how they square with the facts. just one example, the guy that rushed the stage on saturday. shortly afterward trump accused him of having links to isis, sending out a link showing him holding an assault rifle with an isis flag and arabic music. the video which uses footage from the 2015 anti-racism protest did show people stepping on the flag and was obviously doctored. when chuck todd pushed it, that's what trump said. >> okay, you just -- look. well, was it a hoax that he's dragging the flag? that looked like the same man to me. he was dragging a flag along the

ground and he was playing a certain type of music and supposedly there was chatter about isis. now, i don't know. what do i know about it? all i know is what's on the internet. >> in fact the man's arrest report makes no mention of isis ties or islamist terrorism. the man himself denies it completely. on top of that he's out on bail which certainly suggests that whatever else he is he's not a terrorist. and this is not an isolated occurrence. donald trump saying something that turns out to be untrue. here's tom foreman with a quick reality check covering just a single day. >> reporter: one day, three rallies, four interviews and enough questionable statements to cover them all. trump on violence on the campaign trail. >> how many people have been injured at my rallies? zero. zero. >> reporter: false. certainly most of his rallies are peaceful, but the pictures lately are indisputable. no serious injuries, but people have been hurt. >> and i don't condone violence. >> reporter: perhaps that is a matter of opinion. >> i'd like to punch him in the face. >> knock the crap out of him, would you?

seriously. >> reporter: trump on a quarter of the world's 1.6 billion muslims who he says want to go to war. >> it was something like 27% are, you know, really very militant about you know, going after things. >> reporter: false. intelligence analysts say more like a tiny fraction of 1% who are interested in jihad. trump on the iran nuclear deal. >> we give a terror nation, iran, $150 billion. we get nothing. we get nothing. >> reporter: false. even if you put aside the downsizing of their nuclear program, iran will merely get access to its own assets frozen overseas, not u.s. taxpayer money. trump on a lawsuit over his business school. >> they're trying to get money. i don't settle cases. >> reporter: false. they may indeed be trying to get money, but trump has settled some lawsuits. and -- >> i never went bankrupt. i never went bankrupt. >> reporter: that's true in his personal finances but false for

his casino businesses, which have filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy four times. many politicians, including trump's republican and democratic rivals, sometimes make deceitful statements. but in speech after speech, debate after debate, trump has made many statements that are false or misleading. and it happens when he goes after his opponents too. trump on marco rubio. >> he's weak. very weak on illegal immigration. wants to give amnesty to everybody. >> reporter: false. rubio helped draft legislation to let those who entered illegally earn citizenship, but that's not blanket amnesty, and it's certainly not for everyone. trump on ohio governor john kasich -- >> we have a man that voted for nafta. nafta's destroyed ohio. >> reporter: false. economists readily admit ohio and the rest of the rust belt has suffered but widely disagree about whether nafta is to blame. many saying the recession is more at fault. trump on ted cruz --

>> he was a canadian citizen until 16 months ago. >> reporter: cruz was born in canada, giving him automatic citizenship, which he says he was unaware of most his life and has renounced. but cruz also had an american mother, making him a u.s. citizen. which trump fails to mention. and trump on the polls -- >> i lead with hispanics, i lead with women, i lead with very well educated. >> reporter: maybe in small parts of some places but overall, no. a single day, all those falsehoods and accusations. >> that is politics. i mean, i say bad things about people and they say bad things about me. >> reporter: and this is true. for trump it is working. tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> let's talk with our panel. ross, it is interesting. look, we've all done interviews with trump and challenged him on facts. >> i haven't, but -- >> okay. >> i have. >> it's -- i've never really

interviewed anyone quite like him. he basically is a marketer for -- you know, is a brilliant marketer. and in real estate it's -- i guess it's normal to inflate numbers and trumpet things, no pun intended. but in the world of politics you rarely see someone do it as regularly as donald trump. >> in defense of donald trump, i'd say about 50% of what we just saw in that clip is actually normal politician speak. like nafta destroying ohio. economists debate but politicians say things like that all the time. same with the attack on rubio being amnesty. but then the other 50% is a mix of what you're describing. it's that sort of art of the deal, say something big and work out the details later. and a kind of -- people have compared it to like chain e-mails on the internet where he's telling a story he's heard somewhere, the guy being in isis being an example. he tells the story about the american general in the philippines using pig's blood --

and that's, i think, that is what is unique to trump. this sort of i've heard something somewhere, it fits my narrative. i'm just going to spit it out. >> or i retweet it, which is what's occurred with -- i think the one sentence that you might not want to hear from a presidential candidate is "all i know is what is on the internet." which is, i believe, what he said. >> that's all i know. to be honest. >> i don't think his supporters -- kayleigh, we've all spent time with his supporters. they don't -- this doesn't have much impact on them. in fact, the more you point it out it just seems to feed a belief on the part of his supporters that the media is out to get donald trump. >> one of the things ross said, he does speak off the cuff, he speaks organically, and that is what people really like about him. ordinarily when a politician speaks he's poll tested several of the words like rubio who felt that con man resonated with the voters so he repeated it time after time. voters have gotten to the point where they don't like the rhetorical flourish, the soaring prose. they just want someone to speak

like they would speak at their dinner table, even if that means occasionally you're fact checked and you were wrong about something you said. they just want organic and real and that is why trump is resonating. >> it would be one thing if trump actually then acknowledged he was wrong when he was caught. he never does. he just doubles down. he gives some absurd answer, i heard it somewhere, it was on the internet. these lies also tend to have a pattern to them. right? it's the demonization of vulnerable groups of people. and this has an impact. right? it had an impact when a homeless man was beaten in boston. it had an impact when a basketball team in iowa composed of minorities was yelled at by the opposing trump team when they were yelling trump, trump, trump. this is -- it's one thing if it's your crazy uncle. it's another thing when you're the likely presidential nominee. it has an impact on the country. >> and words matter. okay? and for some reason in this campaign donald trump's words haven't mattered until recently. and i fault a lot of conservative media, a lot of

people in the media that in the beginning gave trump a pass on a lot of things he said because, i don't know. they'll have to explain themselves later on. but the fact that from the very beginning donald trump has been spewing out nonsense and things that are dishonest and just flat out untrue. but he got away with being thoroughly vetted the way he is now. and that allowe this cult of personality to build to this juggernaut that we now don't know what to do with ourselves because people they don't want to hear it anymore because they're more emotionally invested. so by acknowledging that donald trump is a fraud, a snake oil salesman, he lies about these things, he speaks out of both sides of his mouth. if they say oh, my goodness, this is someone i supported, that's a lot more difficult. so people dig in. just like he does. and he understands that and uses that brilliantly but it's frightening to those of us where facts matters. out of your words, your heart speaks, so does your words. so when he comes out and says these things willy nilly very flippantly and takes no

responsibility whatsoever, that should be concerning to anyone who wants to put this person in the oval office with the power of the presidency behind him when he doesn't seem to care about the truth. >> the normal place to litigate that -- there are a couple places. but one of the normal places to litigate that is in the news media which i've had the same experience you have. i have the good fortune of having an interview scheduled with him the day president obama released his birth certificate. i tried to hand it to mr. trump and he threw it back at me and said i don't need your copy and then he went on to say he's sending a team to hawaii to prove it was a fraud. >> i talked to him after he claimed his team was there. there's no evidence he ever sent any team there. our reporter talked to everybody in hawaii who any investigative person would talk to and every person said there was no detectives from donald trump. and donald trump kept saying you're going to see what we found. they never found anything. >> but he swats back in media interviews and he does it effectively and then you have how much time do you have for your interview, you're out of time. you either decide to move on to something else or you're out of time. but if it's not litigated in the media these are usually litigated on the debate stage. and his rivals let ten debates go by before they decided they were going to take him seriously

and attack him. and just the other night even now that they know donald trump is a threat he was pressed on waste, fraud and abuse is not enough to save social security and he talked about we're going to bid military contracts and i self-fund my campaign. what in the world do either one of those have to do with social security? but nobody challenged him. >> on the self-funding campaign thing, with all due respect he's gotten more than $7 million in donations which he himself has solicited on his website, which we all know and he's not even giving money to his campaign. he's given some -- a couple hundred thousand to his campaign. he's loaning millions to his campaign which he can get paid back from campaign contributions. >> if you're trump. right? the pitch he's making is i'm not bought by one of these big donors. and if you come back with that narrative and say actually, you have been taking money and you have been self-funding in these different ways, it doesn't undercut i think his underlying pitch. and that's part of -- it's the same thing -- >> bernie sanders style fund-raising. this isn't wall street giving him money. it's from the ground up, not the top down -- >> wait a second.

that couldn't possibly be less true. the bernie sanders is funding his campaign with small contributions. donald trump is funding his campaign by donald trump. >> they are individual donations from the bottom up. the 7 million that anderson referred to that he's taken outside of his own money -- >> i understand that. >> those aren't top down -- >> that's not self-funding your campaign. that's the kind of double speak -- >> but what it is is completely different from what marco rubio, ted cruz and john kasich -- >> look, the mainstream media is far, far from perfect, but partly we're seeing -- >> thank you. >> there's been effort for now decades and decades to delegitimize the mainstream media on the right. when the mainstream media says climate change is happening, oh, that's just a liberal conspiracy. we are seeing the fruit of this now in the unwillingness of trump supporters to believe things even though fact checker after fact checker says they're true. >> we're going to have more with our panel. gloria, john, peter. stick around. just ahead, why super tuesday 3 could be pivotal in the democratic race. what's at stake for bernie

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heading into another supersized tuesday the democrats

making a final push today. bernie sanders campaigning in ohio, north carolina and right now we see live in st. charles, missouri. hillary clinton on stage in charlotte, north carolina, also stumping in illinois and florida. one last chance for both to make final pitches hours before the polls open on a day that could be decisive. here's brianna keilar. >> reporter: the final push to another big tuesday. >> i hope very much that ohio will be one of the states to lead this country forward toward a political revolution. >> it is time for us to unite as a country. end divineness. because we have work to do. >> reporter: as voters in five states prepare to go to the polls tomorrow, the clinton campaign is eyeing the contest in the industrial strongholds of ohio, illinois and missouri after bernie sanders' surprise win in michigan last week. >> a few weeks ago, people were saying, bernie sanders winning

ohio, no way. well, guess what, we have a good vote tomorrow. people come out. we're going to win here in ohio. >> reporter: clinton is trying to convince voters she hears their frustration. >> i'm always being told that when i talk to you i should talk in a very calm and measured voice. but i am so worried about our country and what could happen if we don't band together to elect a president who can represent all of america! >> reporter: both candidates are trying to rally voters by taking swipes at donald trump, making these charges at cnn's town hall. >> what trump has done is like a case of political arson. >> donald trump is a pathological liar. >> reporter: they took questions from ohio democrats. >> there are documented cases of innocent people who have been are executed in our country. >> reporter: including ricky jackson, a man who spent 39

years in prison for a murder he didn't commit. he asked clinton about her support for the death penalty. >> given the challenges we face from terrorist activities, primarily in our country that end up under federal jurisdiction for very limited purposes, i think it can still be held in reserve for those. >> reporter: and sanders quizzed about his ability to reach across the aisle. >> who is the person that is closest to you with whom you disagree the most on politics? >> reporter: his answer, surprising for a candidate who has made environmental concerns a focus of his campaign. >> one of the most conservative members of the senate is a fellow named jim inhofe from oklahoma. and jim is a climate change denier. he is really, really conservative. but you know what? he is a decent guy, and i like him, and he and i are friends.

>> brianna joins us now. i'm sure the clinton campaign would love to stop sanders' momentum tomorrow. this could be a pivotal moment for both campaigns. >> that's right. it could be if bernie sanders does well, anderson. what keeps him viably in the race. if hillary clinton does very well, it could cement her status as the presumptive nominee. but her campaign is worried looking back to michigan where there was that big upset, bernie sanders winning. they're afraid that in missouri, ohio, illinois, these other industrial states, that his message about her past support for nafta could resonate. but if you look at the math here, bernie sanders is still trailing considerably on the delegate count and unlike the republican side these contests tomorrow are not winner take all. so his ability to narrow the gap let alone catch up to clinton is really seen as very difficult for him. but you talk to his aides, they say win or lose tomorrow he's still going to be in this all the way to the convention in july, anderson. >> thanks very much. back now with peter beinart, gloria borger and john king.

that is one of the interesting things to look for tomorrow night is does sanders' victory in michigan, does it augur trouble for hillary clinton in some of these industrialized states? >> they obviously hope it does in missouri and ohio. they believe that trade message is what really worked for him in the state of michigan and they believe that it's going to work for them in those two other states. potentially also in illinois. sanders has been very clever in tying hillary clinton to rahm emmanuel who is very unpopular in the african-american community, the mayor of chicago. so -- but they're not as helpful about illinois, obviously, as they are about missouri. that is their sort of state with their largest hope of winning. and picking up a lot of delegates in ohio, too. >> if he keeps getting killed among african-americans and latinos, and latinos particularly important in florida, it won't matter if he wins a small victory in a state like ohio. which is more like michigan. you saw this is what happened. even when he won michigan he came out with fewer

delegates because hillary clinton destroyed him in mississippi. you can't win a democratic nomination unless you're getting a healthy share of the african-american vote. too important a constituency in the democratic party. and so far, although he did a little bit better in michigan, bernie sanders still hasn't gotten over that hump. >> after earlier in the show, i showed the map. a bunch of sanders supporters in the west coast, oregon, washington and california were saying, hey, wait. when we get out here he's going to win big. he may well win big when he gets to the west coast. we'll see. but it may not matter. the reason tomorrow is so important for bernie sanders as she's inching away, pulling away in the delegate math, even though he gets the proportionate share. if he can get one tomorrow it's a message win. if he can win two or three of those midwest states that would change the conversation in the democratic race. even though she'd lead in delegates. that would change the psychology of the race. if he just gets one, it's good for him. he's not going anywhere. make no mistake, he's not going anywhere. but her math becomes pretty overwhelming. >> they are also ratcheting up their rhetoric against donald trump. we've heard hillary clinton

the past couple days calling donald trump bigoted, accusing him of political arson, essentially inciting mob violence. bernie sanders saying he's a pathological liar. is that a smart move? >> it doesn't hurt. why not? >> if you're trying to motivate the african-american base of the party. >> exactly. and your base of the party. you've got a race going on that's a little divisive in the democratic party. what do you want to do to unite your base eventually is point out that the likely republican nominee is somebody they should despi despise, which is what they've both doing. >> this is going to be particularly important for hillary clinton if she's the nominee. her challenge is can she bring out the young people and the african-americans who barack obama brought out in epic numbers? and donald trump essentially does that work for her. she's not as inspiring as obama, especially with younger voters but the great thing about running against a donald trump is he really makes the case for turning out for you. >> there's no reason for sanders, no matter how he does in these states, assuming he's not getting the nomination, there's no reason for him to drop out before the convention.

>> he has the money to stay in, an energized base. he believes his message on the economy, the rigged economy and wall street is important to him. he has support deep down in the calendar in the west where there are more liberals. there's absolutely no reason to get out. there is a question, he's been very tufrks even tougher since michigan because he sees there's an opportunity here in the midwest. if she has a convincing night tomorrow night does he step back a little bit or not? i think that's the question. >> and he would endorse her. so there's no doubt in my mind that eventually that will be a united party whereas on the republican side not so much. >> more to talk about ahead including marco rubio in florida where he's hoping to turn win or go home into go home and win. we'll be right back. need to hire fast?

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we're talking about tomorrow being do or die for john kasich and marco rubio who's talking now to a crowd in west miami. here's a tangible sign. a superpac which already spent $39 million supporting marco rubio has not booked any commercial air time after tomorrow. which such groups ordinarily would do in advance of the next round of primaries. that's according to a major media tracking firm. no comment from the campaign. however, it's hardly the only sign that rubio faces the toughest test of his campaign.

more on that from randi kaye. >> and the next president of the united states, marco rubio! >> reporter: florida senator marco rubio on the eve of super tuesday still digging deep for momentum in his home state. >> no doubt an important day for us and for me and my campaign. >> reporter: hundreds packed this gymnasium at palm beach atlantic university, a christian school where rubio supporters say they are praying for him. >> why do you think there's still hope for him given that he's only won three contests so far this primary season? >> i think god can make anything happen. you know, i believe in miracles. >> would it take a miracle for him to win, do you think? >> i mean, maybe. >> reporter: many here don't believe rubio has given up and neither have they. this is do or die for marco rubio at this point. are you hopeful? >> yes. i'm always hopeful. that's i think the whole point of this campaign. that's one of his messages. stay hopeful and keep going no matter what. >> reporter: kathryn ford likes rubio because her family is from cuba, too.

>> i love his stance on immigration. my mom and her family are all from cuba. they came here with the dream of america. and to build a life here. and i think his stance on kind of regulating it but still having that dream out there for people that want to do it legally is i think a great message. >> reporter: while some polls show trump leading rubio in florida, his supporters aren't paying much attention. >> he's always been behind the polls. it's kind of like which poll? >> and you think he can always pull it out? >> he has. because people when they meet him and really listen to the issues, then they support him. >> reporter: rubio has said he plans to hit the road and keep campaigning after florida. but if he doesn't win his home state, his campaign could have a tough decision to make. would you want him to drop out if he doesn't win florida? >> depends on how he does. i've never thought about that, quite frankly. >> because you want him to win. >> i want him to win.

>> i don't think he should drop out. god can make anything happen. >> reporter: what if he doesn't win florida. would you want him to drop out? >> i want him to stay in but that's his decision. and i think that he will make the right decision. >> reporter: regardless, his supporters are split on whether or not they would support the republican nominee if it's donald trump. >> if donald trump is the nominee, would you support him? >> no, i would not. >> you would not vote republican? >> no, i would not. >> would you stay home on election day? >> yes, i would. >> if donald trump wins the nomination and marco rubio doesn't, could you support donald trump? >> i would support the nominee. >> randi, did anyone tell you they'd vote democratic if trump was the nominee and not rubio? >> yes, anderson. one woman told me that if donald trump was the republican nominee she would vote democratic but only if bernie sanders is the democratic nominee. she would not vote for hillary clinton, she says. but anderson, in no way are his

supporters ready to count out marco rubio. that is for sure. they still think he can win his home state of florida on super tuesday. and as far as his strategy goes, he's been working really hard here in southern florida. that's what he calls home. he thinks that will help balance out donald trump's popularity in northern and central florida. he's also been working an area of the state known as the i-4 corridor. it has a very large population of puerto ricans. he won puerto rico. he's hoping that would also possibly help propel him to a big win on super tuesday. here in florida, anderson. we'll find out tomorrow night. >> randi, thanks very much. coming up, we'll have more on donald trump and the possibilities of what may happen tomorrow. we'll also get a report from our clarissa ward on the ground in syria. we'll be right back. ♪

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>> [ bleep ]. >> the people that came there were so nice. they were taunted. they were harassed by these other people. [ screaming ] [ chanting "usa" ] >> my people are great. it's these people that are the problem. >> i hope these guys get thrown into a jail. >> do we love our protesters? right? we love our protesters. all right. get them out of here. get them out. >> the republican front-runner has denied there's violence at his events and even calls them "lovefests." joining me trump supporter darryl scott from the new spirit revival center in cleveland heights, ohio. back with me "new york times" columnist ross douthead.

you introduced donald trump at the rally on saturday in cleveland a day after the violence in chicago. he said he should get credit and not scorn for how he handles crowds at his rallies. he has said he'd like to punch a protester in the face. he's encouraged others at his rallies if somebody throws something to punch them. he said he's considering paying the legal fees for a guy who sucker punched an african-american man at his rallies. do you really believe he's a unifier after all that? >> well, i really believe a lot of mr. trump's comments are overblown. >> how is it overblown? >> well, he says a lot of things that people think. when you think about this, the climate of america, in fact, the climate of the entire planet is if we go to a public event the people that attend public events do not want to be disturbed. and if someone creates a ruckus there's a potential for violence there. if you're at the movie theater and somebody starts making noise in the movie theater, you'd tell them be quiet. if they don't, it can escalate. >> but pastor, does an usher at the movie theater come out before the movie and say by the

way, if somebody makes noise feel free to punch them? i mean, i haven't been in a movie where that's happened. >> listen, you live in america, if you are in a public venue, a play, wherever, someone begins to disturb, it can irritate you to the point of -- it can be an escalation in physicality. >> right, but those are our darkest -- those are our deepest like hostile emotions. should a leader be encouraging that? >> but listen. here's the one thing i don't see. i don't see donald trump supporters going to hillary clinton rallies, bernie sanders rallies, ted cruz rallies holding up trump signs trying to disrupt and prevent them from hearing their candidate. trump supporters are not disrupting each other. >> right, but you are -- >> it's outside influences coming in. outside influences are coming in. >> you are assuming that those are -- >> -- and trying to disturb -- they are holding up bernie sanders signs -- >> you're assuming those are being sent by sanders -- okay. well, black lives matter protesters have disrupted

hillary clinton. they have disrupted bernie sanders. but you haven't seen the same kind of rhetoric coming from those candidates. >> and they were removed. but when you see them disrupting hillary clinton or bernie sanders, they are isolated events. isolated incidents. with trump it's a regular event. he expects protesters and it can get aggravating. i mean, the trump people come to the trump rallies to hear trump, not for someone that gets up that morning and tells themselves i'm going to intentionally go to disrupt a trump meeting. that's wrong right there. >> of course. political discourse, no matter what the opinions expressed, should be -- >> peaceful protest is one thing. but disruption is another. >> ross, what do you make of this? >> i mean, there's a cycle going on. right? it is fair to say that trump faces protests that are unlike any other candidate and it's not bernie sanders sending his people. but it is -- >> no, it's not. >> but it is an organized left-wing movement at this point to -- and you saw it play out in chicago. >> do you think trump bears any responsibility? >> of course. yes. no, it's a cycle. that's the thing. this is -- one of the dangerous

things frankly about the trump candidacy is that it encourages further radicalization on the other side. so trump says something, trump creates a climate. trump talks about how protesters should be punched and so on. that encourages more protesters to come out and encourages essentially -- i mean, if you think about this on college campuses, right? i imagine that the trump phenomenon is creating many converts to left-wing protest movements, which in turn they then go protest trump. it gets on the news. trump looks like he's getting shut down. his supporters dig in and so it goes. >> so you see this escalating potentially? >> i think it escalates if trump is the nominee. certainly. >> do you think -- >> this is the pattern you see in many, many countries around the world and in the american past. we haven't seen anything like it in our politics since the 1960s. but this kind of radicalization, counterradicalization and so on is -- and it's happening on both sides. trump and the people reacting. >> reverend scott, the head of

the naacp i believe today made comments saying essentially donald trump's rhetoric is racist. he compared it to jim crow and the blue suit. you said that donald trump is not an agent of hate. he's an agent of change. in your cleveland speech you said i asked mr. trump some very pointed and direct questions about race and race relations. i received very direct answers and erased all of my preconceptions. protesters at his rallies call him racist and bigoted. where's the disconnect from the man you know and his critics? >> we've had several conversations with donald trump in his private office about matters pertinent to the black community. in fact, the minority communities in general. we talked about police brutality. he said something that i found very insightful. he said i don't know why police shoot to kill. if they want to disable someone, why don't they shoot to wound? we talked to him about black lives matter. he says he believes the reason there's a lot of crime in the inner city is because of lack of employment, because of economic distress. he said who can build better than donald trump?

>> so he convinced you? >> what do you mean he convinced me? i'm not stupid. >> he convinced you that he is not in any way racist, that he's not bigoted as the naacp says. >> i've had several conversations, a lot of personal interaction with him. he's not a racist. he's not a bigot. in fact, the very first time i talked to donald trump i challenged him on that and that was over five years ago. i said there's a disconnect between you and the black community. there's a word on the street that you're a racist. and the thing he did. he said i'm about the least racist person you ever want to meet. i work with all kinds of people in all walks of life. and we went on. and when i go to trump tower, when i see the demographics of his organization and i see that he has a very high minority representation, and just my interaction with him. he's not a racist at all. it's a tag people are putting on him to try -- it's political. they are using that as a political tag. >> darrell scott, it's good to have you on. ross douthead as well p just ahead as russia announces it's going to start withdrawing its forces from syria an exclusive

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russia announces it's going to start withdrawing forces from syria. putin says the russian forces have achieved their goals in the country. that announcement comes nearly five years into the devastating civil war in syria and six months after russia began air strikes in support of the syrian government. in their phone call president obama and putin spoke about the next steps to fully implement a nationwide cessation to hostilities. the white house says the president stressed that continuing violence by the syrian regime undermines that effort. our senior international correspondent clarissa ward went undercover to witness the destruction that has scarred much of northern syria and the seething militancy it's produced. she's the first western journalist in many months to get into the region, much of which has been reduced to rubble by daily russian ash air strikes and regime bombardment. i'll speak with clarissa in a moment, but first her exclusive report, and we want to warn you, it does contain graphic images. >> reporter: moving through rebel-held northern syria is difficult and dangerous. as foreign journalists in areas with a strong jihadist presence

we had to travel undercover to see a war few outsiders have witnessed. the city of idlib is the only provincial capital under rebel control. this was its courthouse until it was hit by an air strike in december. dozens were killed. . 40-year-old lawyer tilal al jawi told us he was inside the building when it was hit. his arm was smashed but he was lucky to survive. >> reporte >> translator: the russian planes target anything in the isht of the people. the goal is here that people live a destroyed life, they never see any good, they see a destroyed life. this is the tax of living in a liberated area. >> reporter: an hour later we saw that tax for ourselves. while filming in a town nearby. we heard the scream of fighter jets wheeling overhead.

moments later, a hit. it was just an air strike here in the town of ariha. so we're now driving very quickly. it's not clear yet what was hit, but we are hearing there are still planes in the sky. >> arriving on the scene our team found chaos and carnage. volunteers shouted for an ambulance as they tried to ferry out the wounded. for many it was too late. a woman lay dead on the ground, a jacket draped over her, in an attempt to preserve her dignity. russia has repeatedly claimed it is only hitting terrorist targets. this strike hit a busy fruit

market. >> translator: this is just a civilian market. this is not a military area. >> translator: there are no military installations here or anything. it's a market. look. it's a market. a fruit market. is this what you want, bashar? >> reporter: we couldn't stay long. often jets circle back to hit the same place twice. it's called a double tap. >> we just arrived here at the hospital where they're bringing the dead and the wounded from those three strikes in ariha which hit a park and a fruit market. we don't know the exact number of casualties there. but the scenes of devastation, blood on the ground, dismembered body parts and the injured and dead that we've seen arriving here indicate that this was a very bad strike indeed. among the injured brought in, a young boy moaning in pain. he died moments later.

the strikes on ariha that day killed 11 people. among them a woman and two children. rescue workers wasted no time in clearing away the rubble. become routine. >> you join us now. it's so rare to see firsthand reports from western reporters. what was it like for you? >> that was it. >> i was so frustrated at looking at these grainy youtube interviews and i wanted to get a better sense of what it was like under the bombs and what kind of significant difference there was since the russian intervention began last september and the last time i had visited aslelep in 2012 i told myself there was no possibility it could get worse than this, as bad as i have a seen in my ten years of covering war but to see the

scale of the impact and devastation that these russian bombs have been making and the relentlessness with which they were targeting things clearly civilian institutions, hospitals, courtrooms, it just was staggering and you realized that there is in a sense, a war against every day life going on here. >> i'm so glad you were able to bring that report for us. thank you. >> thank you. all right. we'll be right back. ♪ the intelligent, all-new audi a4 is here. ♪ ♪ ain't got time to make no apologies...♪

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that does it for us. cnn tonight with don lemon starts now. just hours ago until the vote that could decide everything and listen to the republican rival. >> you know how many people have been hurt at our rallies? i think like basically none other than somebody got hit once but there's no violence. >> one difference between this and a donald trump rally is i'm not asking anyone to punch you in the face. >> hold up your bernie sanders sign. don't worry. you're not going to get beat up at my rally. >> this is "cnn tonight," and i'm don lemon. the next 24 hour, the next 24 hours could be the last chance