tomorrow night beginning at 8:00 eastern. of course right here on cnn. that's it for us tonight. thanks for watching. i'll see you right back here tomorrow night. our live coverage continues now with isha sesay in los angeles. this is "cnn newsroom" live from los angeles. shots fired in washington. the capitol building locked down. new information about the gunman and his checkered past. hauls in the international terror dragnet. a man arrested at first thought to be the third bomber at the brussels airport and then freed. why the mistaken identity, and who is the man in white? plus, we're getting the first reactions from key u.s. allies to donald trump's surprising foreign policy ideas. hello and welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm isha sesay. "newsroom l.a." starts right now.

we begin in america's capitol on lockdown for much of monday afternoon. a man identified as larry russell dawson was shot by police after pulling what appeared to be a gun at the capitol visitors center. dawson, 66, is from tennessee, but he has a history in washington. court documents describe him disrupting the house of representatives in 2015. authorities are stressing that this appears to be an isolated incident with no reason to suspect terrorism as a motive. the scene in washington was hectic, as you'd expect, with visitors running for cover. our brian todd has a closer look at the aftermath. >> reporter: a chaotic scene in the heart of washington as visitors to the u.s. capitol run for shelter. >> we heard get out, get out, there's an active shooter. so we all ran out, went around the side of the building. police escorted us out of the building. it's one of the most stressful

experiences i've ever had 234 my life. >> reporter: the incident sparked by a lone gunman who set off the metal detector. tourists and staffers were ordered to shelter in place. >> i saw everybody acting a little nuts and then i saw a policeman coming through and officers coming out in a row, just like sprinting down and they're going, move it, get out of the way, and then i figured something's going on. >> reporter: a female bystander was wounded by shrapnel. >> an adult male subject entered the north screening facility of the capitol visitors center. during routine administrative screening the individual drew what appeared to be a weapon and pointed it at officers. an officer fired and struck the suspect, who was subsequently treated by medical personnel. the suspect was taken into custody and transported to the hospital for treatment. >> reporter: capitol police say the suspect acted alone and was known to authorities as a frequent capitol grounds visitor. this comes as tourists from around the country have flocked to d.c. during the popular

spring season. >> with the updates they gave us, you know, updates and they were very congenial to us, very hospitable. and made us feel safe. >> reporter: this vehicle behind me, this dodge ram pickup truck with tennessee plates has been confirmed by police to be owned by the suspect. according to two law enforcement sources who spoke to cnn, he is identified as larry russell dawson. and according to court documents, he disrupted the house of representatives chamber in october 2015, loudly stating to congress that he was a prophet from god. he's identified in those documents as a 66-year-old man from tennessee. brian todd, cnn, washington. >> so a close call at the capitol at a time when anxiety about terrorism is running particularly high. cnn law enforcement contributor steve moore is here with me. he's a retired supervisory special agent with the fbi. steve, my friend, it's always good to have you with us. >> good to see you. >> listen, a man apparently armed appears on the scene. there are dozens and dozens of

innocent bystanders. law enforcement has to react quickly. and the decision has to be surely shoot or not shoot. >> yes. >> talk to me about the decision-making process. >> well, that's the most difficult decision an officer makes, anybody in law enforcement who carries a weapon. the decision-making process is simply going to be am i in fear of my life or am i in fear that this person will hurt others or kill others? that is easily answered when the person rings the magnetometer and rather than standing there with his armtz at his side he produces a weapon. it's game over at that point. at that point your main concern is your aim so that you don't take out bystanders. >> you point out there's a reason why you can't let people run the magnetometer with that distance. >> if you've ever wondered you why can't have a line-up to the magnetometer it's because if you do that there's people in between you, the officers and the person inside the

magnetometer. and like we just found out, if the person comes up with a gun you want a clear shot. >> given what happened on capitol hill on this day there are going to be those saying they need to change security protocol, security arrangements there at the capitol. do you agree with that? should they be moving the perimeter further out? >> this was a success. i don't think you should consider it a failure because the procedure is it's to stop someone from coming in with a gun. if that person decides he's going to die doing it, you know, you can do nothing. if you move the perimeter out, you are decreasing security. >> how so? >> it's a fact of life. the bigger the perimeter you have to guard the bigger the holes in it. and if you were to move this one out it would have to go out to the street. so now instead of somebody with a gun or somebody with a bomb the size of a handbag now you can put a car bomb there and you

can have 200 people stand pg in line to get into the capitol when & a car bomb goes off. so moving the perimeter out is really not a great idea unless you absolutely have to. this was a success. >> steve moore, stand by for us because there's so much more to discuss with you. staying here in the united states, the fbi has accessed the san bernardino gunman's iphone without apple's help. officials have been pressing the tech giant to help them bypass the phone security but they changed their tune when an unarmed third party came forward to help retrieve the data. here's the thing. officials haven't said if they'll disclose how they did it and give apple a chance to fix the problem. the doj has dropped this case. it has dropped for now. but we know it won't be the last time these questions of privacy versus security come up. steven moore is still here with me. it does seem curious, steve, that one minute they couldn't do it without apple's help, the ne lo and behold they're in. >> i don't think the fbi didn't think they could do it. i think they thought that maybe

their probability was low. and i think they were also reaching out to private industry to say can we partner on these things in the future? what happened is apple shut the door on them. and so the bureau at that point went to plan b, which was not what they preferred. i understand that people -- good people on both sides of this argument because it's civil liberties, privacy versus their right to stop terrorism. but at a certain point you have to come down on one side or another. >> will they share with apple -- you chuckle when i say this. but will they share with apple how they did it? you know these people. these are your people. >> what reason would the fbi possibly have to say hey, thanks for throwing this in your face, now we're going to show you how we did it? no. no. apple might even be so motivated to put a fix in to keep the fbi from doing it in the future. the fbi got sandbagged by apple, and they're certainly not going

to trust them again. >> where do you see this going next? because as we've just said, this will not be the end of these kinds of clashes. as the threat of terror looms ever larger in our lives. i mean, this will come up again. what's your sense of how the government will approach it the next time? >> i think they'll do it pretty much the same. and i'll tell you why. the fbi never released their techniques for finding information. for them to come out publicly and say a-ha, now we can get into apple iphones, is extremely unusual. and the reason for that is simply a message to apple, microsoft, samsung, who is ever making these products, you can come with us nicely or we can rough you up some but we're going to get the information. >> oh, dear. you can come with me or we'll rough you up. steven moore, you are an fbi man. i appreciate you joining us. thank you for your insight. >> thank you.

police are conducting raids across europe in the hunt for at least eight suspects in connection with the terror attacks in belgium one week ago. authorities released new video in the hopes the public can identify the third suspected bomber at the brussels airport. it is that man you see on screen, the man we refer to as the man in white. law enforcement officials tell cnn there's a list of people belgian and u.s. authorities believe could be the man. meanwhile, a suspect officials have identified as faycal c. has been released over inconclusive evidence. our own michael holmes is in brussels following all the developments and he joins us now. michael, what's the latest? what are we hearing from authorities on the investigation and the release of that individual? let's start there. >> reporter: good morning from brussels, isha. a mub of arrests as you said in recent days including the man known as faycal c. he wasn't just arrested but then charged with some pretty serious

offenses. terrorist murder, attempted terrorist murder among them and then released when a imagine strate said those charges just didn't stack up. faycal has been known as an agitator, a troublemaker in the community, someone who tried to rally muslims against non-muslims. but right now the evidence apparently not there to hold him according to the magistrate. it's interesting. the prosecutors said, "we're not saying he's innocent. that we do not do." so we shall see. three men arrested around brussels in a dozen raids have been charged with participating in the activities of a terrorist group. no detail on that, however. frustration over a series of counterterror missteps, signals ignored or not passed on. you know, the release of faycal c. adds to that anger. as you point out, that mysterious third man at the airport, the man in the hat as he's become known, still at large, as is a suspected second man perhaps involved in the

metro bombing and spotted on cctv, isha. >> and michael, let me ask you about the airport. many wondering when that will reopen. what are we hearing? >> it's an important angle to this. hundreds of airport staffers will today be testing a temporary setup for check-in, security screenings, luggage check-in and all of that. too soon, though, to say when it might reopen formally. of course the damage, and we've seen those videos, the damage done by the two bombs that went off plain to see. a lot needs to be done. a lot of sort of structural and cosmetic damage. the airport is of course a very busy one. this city is the headquarters of the european union and nato. it being out of action is having an impact. a smaller airport just outside the city is taking some of the load. but most travelers are actually flying into places like paris or amsterdam and then driving the few hours to brussels.

big impact on nato. the european union. but also tourists trying to get here as well. so they're having to make a bit of a road trip from other european capitals to get to brussels, isha. >> a lot to contend with. our michael holmes joining us there from brussels where the manhunt continues. micha michael, appreciate it. speak to you again next hour. thank you. cnn intelligence and security analyst bob baer joins us now. mr. baer, always good to have you with us. the very fact that the belgian authorities arrested, charged, and then let go of this faycal c. has many scratching their heads wondering what kind of operation is being run here. and your view, how big a misstep is this? >> i don't think it is a misstep, isha. i think they're playing catch-up ball. they've ignored this threat forever. the jihadi threat. and what they're doing is just arresting everybody connected to this cell, whether they have evidence or not. and once they check the alibis and they release the guy -- but because they don't have any intelligence sources inside the

cell, they have to knock down doors and arrest anybody they can. they are way behind on this. because they haven't begun to identify the entire cell. that's including paris. >> as we talk about the cell, let me ask you, how big do you think it is? this man in white, who we've seen the pictures, we haven't been able to identify, is obviously getting help from people. how big is this? what do you think? >> first of all, look at the man in white. he's got this goatee. i wonder if it's real. he's got the glasses. he's got the hat. it looks to me like he was trying to break up his face. this is a typical disguise, breaking up your face. so they're not even sure from the biometrics who he is. they can't compare with pictures. so he may have been simply a minder who took them there, made sure they went through with the fact and waited outside. we'll have to wait and see in this. but as far as the cell goes, you have to remember that there's the unwitting part and the witting. i mean, you don't let everybody in on the plans. so there's a lot of people that

may have thought this was just a criminal group that were helping stealing passports, fake i.d.s, guns and the rest of it, they didn't even know there was terrorism. so we could be talking about the entire cell, several hundred at least. >> several hundred people. >> yeah. >> so how do you approach that? take me inside an operation like that. several hundred. you've got an individual who may have done things to disguise his appearance. i mean, how do you do this? >> you have to run down first of all the data analytics to figure out how big it was. who was communicating with encrypted cells. right off the bat. that should make you suspicious. how do they get their arms, was it from criminal groups or a witting part of this cell? the problem with the belgians is they've gone all these years and allowed this weapons trade to go on. europe is not accustomed to this. this is something new. kalashnikovs. and then you have the people buying the chemicals, the peroxide and the acetone.

that was probably done wittingly. so you have all these people. so we're talking, this is an open-ended investigation, may go on for months or years. >> just very quickly, bob, the people they do have in custody, i mean, how do you even approach the questioning, the interrogation, bearing in mind you're trying to -- you're battling against a clock with fears there could be another attack anytime. >> yeah, the problem is these people have become believers clearly if they're going to commit suicide in an attack like this. so getting them to talk in prison is virtually impossible. i spent a lot of time in prisons talking to these people. they never give up details, even when they're going to be in for life because -- >> they don't speak. >> they don't speak. or they lie to you. and i think abdeslam, one of the paris organizers, was probably lying to the police and they probably knew it. can you break them down over years? maybe, maybe not. >> bob baer, so good to have you with us here in the studio. thank you. >> thanks. all right.

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hello, everyone. a top strategist for u.s. presidential hopeful hillary clinton is swatting down a demand from the sanders camp for another debate. bernie sanders had called for the meetup ahead of the new york primary on april 19th. the vermont senator scored major caucus wins across three states over the weekend. but clinton continues to dominate the national democratic delegate count. her staffer is refusing his call for a debate because the aide says sanders is running a negative campaign. sanders prides himself on having never run a negative campaign ad in his life. that is not something the top

republican contenders can say. the fight between donald trump and ted cruz is personal and it is crude and it is worse. sunlen serfaty has the latest on the republican mud slinging. >> reporter: donald trump accusing ted cruz of trying to steal delegates. >> he's trying to steal things because that's the way ted works. okay? the system is a broken system. >> reporter: and threatening to sue. tweeting, "i won the state of louisiana and get less delegates than cruz. lawsuit coming." cruz today brushing it off. >> i'm always amused when donald doesn't know what to do and so threatens lawsuits. >> reporter: despite trump's narrow win in louisiana earlier this month, both he and cruz won 18 pledged delegates. but there are ten delegates still up for grabs. five that belong to marco rubio and are now free agents and five that are unbound. the "wall street journal" reports that cruz is in a position to potentially pick up all ten thanks to his campaign's

organizational skill and the delegate selection process. the dell ph delegate fight comes as trump and cruz continue their war of words over their spouses. >> i didn't know it was necessarily a very bad picture of her versus melania. >> reporter: trump refusing to apologize for retweeting a photo of heidi cruz next to his wife, melania. >> he owes me an apology because what he did was wrong. he sent out a picture to people in utah -- >> actually, he -- you know he didn't. you know it was a super pac. >> reporter: the exchange coming during a contentious interview with a conservative talk radio host in which is which is who is opposed to his candidacy. >> mr. trump, before you called in to my show did you know that i'm a hashtag never trump guy? >> that i didn't know. >> reporter: cruz, meanwhile, is blaming trump for planting a salacious tabloid story about him but offering no evidence to back up his claim. >> these are complete made-up

lies. they're garbage. but it's indicative of just how low donald trump will go. >> reporter: a charge trump rejects. >> i had nothing to do with it. the campaign had absolutely nothing to do with it. >> reporter: and back on donald trump's threat of a lawsuit over the louisiana delegates counts, the louisiana gop tells cnn that the ten delegates are up for grabs, they will not be changing the rules and who those delegates want to cast their vote for is solely up to them, not to donald trump or ted cruz. sunlen serfaty, cnn, rothschild, wisconsin. >> joining me now is conservative writer and cnn political commentator matt lewis and cnn and political commentator van jones is here with me in the studio. van also served as an adviser to president obama. gentlemen, welcome. matt, let me start with you. donald trump appearing on charlie sykes' radio show today and essentially sparks flew. the two clashed on just about everything. we should make clear that sykes is as anti-trump as they come.

but one of the big headlines from the radio chat was the spat between trump and cruz is not ending anytime soon. it just seems to be getting nastier. you're a conservative. what do you make of all of this? >> well, first it's interesting that trump went on that radio show with sykes today and apparently was unaware that he was on with a guy who had vowed to never support trump. i think he maybe thought he was going on just a conservative talk radio host and conservative falk radio hosts tend to like donald trump. it may have been a surprise he was not going into friendly territory. look, i think this is really just -- it's silly season. it's an example of -- we have horrible things happening. very serious things happening around the globe. and donald trump is tweeting out things, you know, sort of saying my wife's hotter, more attractive than your wife. this is where we are in the state of the race right now. sadly, it's not surprising.

it's sort of the denouement. sadly we've got months more. i don't even know how low we might end up going eventually. >> van, to bring you in here, matt says it's not surprising. but to many it is surprising, especially what is happening in the world now. right now at this moment what happened in belgium. the fact that this feud continues and they continue to talk about their wives. >> it's kind of crazy. also it's not just belgium. you have hits happening in pakistan, incredible damage, women being killed. children being killed in africa, around the world. we talk about belgium, but this is a worldwide phenomenon. ordinarily, that tends to bring a country like the united states together. it tends to focus. it gets you more sober. this is serious stuff. in the middle of all this, in the middle of belgium, donald trump starts this fight about whose wife is hotter and who's sleeping with who. and i think it gives people around the world to be very

concerned about the united states. >> matt, this situation between trump and cruz has many saying that the way trump is treating heidi cruz, posting that unflattering picture in comparison to melania trump, i mean, that's the image he put out there, some are saying that this is spotlighting the bigger issue trump has with women. that is in turn turning women off him in large numbers and it will hurt him in a general election. >> right. well, look, i don't know if people are going to remember this three or four, five months from now when november rolls around. but i think it's fair to say that donald trump has a track record of being what some might describe as misogynistic. and it's not just the heidi cruz stuff. that's just part and parcel of a pretty long trend. megyn kelly during that first, very first republican debate that fox news hosted, pointed this out, and he later attacked

her. so i mean, that pretty much says it all. republicans have had a gender gap problem since -- i think ronald reagan was the last republican to win the female vote. this is nothing new. but i just think donald trump compounds the problem. and he's going to have a major gender gap to overcome. and again, it's just amazing because republicans a couple years ago did this autopsy where they said we need to do better with women, we need to do better with hispanics, we need to do better with millennials, and trump is the exact opposite of what republicans were hoping for. >> van, donald trump is disrupting any plans the republicans had. but matt said they won't remember the situation with heidi cruz a couple of months from now. but the democrats will be making sure the general electorate does. >> yeah, absolutely. and the thing about it is right now if you had a normal candidate what we'd be talking about is the gender gap that hillary clinton has with male voters. but that -- you know, that would

be very troubling. the thing is that the gap that trump has with female voters now is so big we're only talking about that. there are some things -- i don't think the democrats should get too smug here. the democrats, oh, donald trump is so terrible, look, he's making a fool of himself. we've been saying this about him for almost a year, and it's surprising he's able to -- who knows? he might go and put a woman as a vp pick. okay? that might be something he might do to try to tamp down on some of this stuff in a general election. he has a lot more cards to play. but right now you could not write a better plan to lose a general election than the stuff he's doing. >> let's talk about the next race, which will be wisconsin. that's the vote next week. matt, let me ask you there. the race is tightening in wisconsin. what are your expectations? >> well, look, different states have different political cultures. we saw how utah was very unfavorable terrain for donald trump. and i think wisconsin is not a

great state for donald trump. to me the real question is does john kasich spoil the race for ted cruz? ted cruz ought to win wisconsin. but john kasich being a midwestern governor, if he comes in there and takes 20% or something he could cost cruz the election. and if trump somehow pulls off a win in wisconsin he's on his way to the 1,237 delegates he needs to clinch the nomination. >> van, if he doesn't win, though, if trump doesn't win in wisconsin, how badly does that slow his momentum? >> i think every time he does not win is bad news for him. he's now -- it took a long time for the entire gop establishment to turn against him and to consolidate from 17 down to two alternatives. a lot of people say kasich should get out. the reality is kasich is a lot more attractive in some of these northeastern states than a ted cruz. but right now if he can't --

he's got to continue to dominate donald trump. if not he walks into a convention, he's going to be surrounded by a lot of establishment folks who up until now had to deal with him being on television while they're at home crying. now it's going to be a very different situation at the convention. >> so much to talk about. matt lewis, van jones, a pleasure. thanks to you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. just under 24 hours you can hear the republican candidates answer questions directly from voters as cnn hosts a new town hall. viewers in north america can watch it tuesday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. our international viewers can catch the highlights on wednesday at 12:00 noon in london. time for a quick break now. donald trump is talking about his views on u.s. foreign policy. ahead, his comments and the nervous reactions from some key u.s. allies. plus, pakistan's prime minister is vowing to avenge the victims of the deadly attack targeting christians on easter sunday. what investigators are uncovering, next.

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you're watching "cnn newsroom" live from los angeles. i'm isha sesay. the headlines this hour. u.s. capitol police have identified the man who pulled what appeared to be a gun in the visitor's center. 66-year-old larry russell dawson was shot and wounded by security. court documents show he was arrested last year for disrupting the house of representatives. the u.s. justice department has dropped its case against apple. officials say they've gained access to the san bernardino gunman's iphone without the tech giant.

instead the government had help from an outside party, which is troubling news for apple's highly touted encryption. one week after the terror attack in brussels the death toll has risen to 35. four more people have died in the hospital. police raids continue across europe in the hunt for at least eight suspects in connection with the bombings. one suspect, faycal c., has been released for lack of evidence. now, former cuban president fidel castro is slamming u.s. president barack obama's historic visit to his country. obama's trip last week was focused on mending strained relations between the two nations. but in a communist party newspaper column castro rejected obama's words of reconciliation and said cuba doesn't need anything from the u.s. now, u.s. republican presidential candidate donald trump is weighing in on foreign policy in asia. in an interview with the nshl"n york times" trum said he would be willing to pull u.s. forces out of japan and south korea if

those countries do not pay more to keep the troops there. he also said he might support japanese and south korean efforts to build their own nuclear weapons instead of relying on protection from the u.s., citing what he sees as a decline in american power, trump told the paper this. we're quoting here. "if the united states keeps on its path, its current path of weakness, they're going to want to have that anyway with or without me discussing it because i don't think they'll feel very secure in what's going on with our country." there has been some angry and nervous reactions from u.s. allies in the region. for more on that paula hancocks joins us from seoul. paula, what are we hearing from allies in the region? >> reporter: well, isha, the very fact that we are hearing from the allies in the region is sichblt in significant in itself. they are concerned enough with these comments they're making comments of their own. usually they don't say anything to individual statements from a u.s. presidential candidate. but we have statements from both japan and south korea, from the

foreign ministers. the south korean foreign minister saying that our government is continuously contributing and playing its part in maintaining and strengthening the south korea-u.s. joint defense capability and providing a stabilizationing environment. the u.s. public, including its government and congress, sees south korea's role and contribution positively. we also heard from the u.s. ambassador to south korea, saying also that he believed that this was a very positive alliance. and then on to japan, another alliance that has been lasting decades. the foreign minister there saying whoever will become the president of the united states, "japan and u.s. alliance is very important for japan's security and regional peace and stability. we must maintain it firmly." and he went on to say "japan holds the three non-nuclear principles. the nuclear power basic law and respects the npt," which is the non-proliferation treaty. "it is impossible that japan

will arm with nuclear weapons." now, certainly from south korea's point of view this alliance has lasted some 70 years. there's 27 1/2 thousand u.s. troops in south korea. 54,000 in japan. it really is a cornerstone of the u.s. military presence in asia. and there are some concerns now that this could spark an arms race in north east asia. i think this is why the prime ministers of both countries felt the need to go on the record and say that this simply could not happen. isha? >> it is quite remarkable that they effectively have commented on the comments of a prospective presidential nominee. he hasn't even won the nomination yet. but they feel they have to get out in front of this. paula hancocks joining us there from seoul. appreciate it. thank you. let's get more perspective now on donald trump's foreign policy. christopher hill is the former u.s. ambassador to iraq and south korea. he joins me now from denver, colorado. orms hill, thank you for joining us. it's always good to have you on

the show. you know the asia pacific region very well. so i have to firstly get your reaction to donald trump's comments. what did you make of it? >> frankly, it's just appalling. i don't know what he's talking about. but clearly neither does he. the u.s. alliances with japan and korea are two of the most important alliances we have in the world and moreover they're two of the best. i mean, those two countries have real serious militaries. we train with them. we work with them. we are prepared if necessary to go to war together with them. these are very pivotal countries in our whole security architecture. this has lasted for many administrations, republican and democrat. and then along comes this candidate who clearly has not cracked his briefing book one page. >> ambassador hill, let me read you what he specifically said when he was asked about this issue of withdrawing u.s. forces from japan and south korea. let's put that up for our viewers. he said, you know, "we cannot

afford to be losing vast amounts of billions of dollars on all of this. we just can't do it anymore. now, there was a time when we could have done it, when we started doing it, but we can't do it anymore. and i have a feeling that they'd up the ante very much. i think they would." i mean, it is just bewildering to so many people. then he goes on to say, "and if they wouldn't, i would have to say yes." it seemed bewildering to so many people. as many people also say, he clearly doesn't understand how this alliance is -- how this alliance is built. and you know, in the case of south korea and japan, the contributions they make to it. the financial contributions. >> all i can say to your viewers around the world who are perplexed by this is so are many americans perplexed by this. these are issues that have been around for many decades. our relationship, as your setup piece on south korea suggests, is some 70 years old. and for someone to come along

and say oh, this is some unequal relationship, we have these treaty relationships because they are in the interests of the united states. they have stood the test of time. they've supported -- been supported across our political spectr spectrum. and with due respect to mr. trump and his real estate purchases, he has no idea what he is talking about when he talks about these alliances with south korea and japan. >> ambassador christopher hill it is always good to get your perspective. i think your voice is among many that is really, truly confounded by this state of affairs and what it could do to the standing of the u.s. around the world. thank you so much for speaking to us tonight. thank you. >> thank you. and now to pakistan, where there have been funerals, raids, and arrests after a suicide bombing easter sunday in a public park. it happened in lahore, killing at least 72 people, many of them

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cnn's nick la convenien valenci details. >> reporter: georgia governor nathan deal had maintained since the very beginning that this bill was introduced that he would veto any bill he saw as discriminatory. and on monday in a statement in front of the press he announced his intentions to do just that. now, he said that he could not find any examples in the state of what this bill was intended to protect. what this bill was intended to protect are religious officials from performing same-sex marriages, among other things. lgbt advocates said it was just another way for them to be discriminated against. supporters of this bill, however, said that christian morals and values are under attack in this country. now, many people within the republican party here in the state of georgia believe that the governor caved to financial pressure. there was a laundry list of blue chip companies including cnn's parent company turner to speak out against this legislation. we reached out to the atlanta convention and visitors bureau, who said had the governor signed this bill into law it would have cost the state between 3 billion and $6 billion in lost revenue.

nick valencia, cnn, atlanta. hollywood companies were some of the biggest critics of the bill. disney and marvel studios went as far as threatening to boycott filming in the state, issuing this statement -- "disney and marvel are inclusive companies, and although we have had great experiences filming in georgia we will plan to take our business elsewhere should any legislation allowing discriminatory practices be signed into law." films like marvel's "ant-man" reportedly spent more than $100 million in georgia and employed more than 3,000 people. amc also spoke out against the bill. the network's most popular show "the walking dead" is filmed in georgia. joining me now to talk about it is victims' rights advocate lisa bloom who's also a gay rights advocate. lisa, always good to have you with us. >> thank you. >> how influential was hollywood in getting the governor to veto this? >> i think money matters and it mattered very much in this case. although the governor said in

his statement it wasn't because of what the hollywood studios or other companies like coca-cola said, that had nothing to do with it he said -- >> you don't believe it. >> i don't think anybody believes that. he doesn't want georgia to turn into another indiana, a state that had a lot of boycotts after an anti-lgbt bill passed there. i think that was instructive to him. and it should be instructive to other states. >> i want you to take a listen to one of the supporters of the religious liberty bill who says disney was just making an empty threat. take a listen. >> i think these were empty threats and we think they had no merit. the nfl's talking about a super bowl. well, the other two states that are under consideration are louisiana and florida, both of which have been religious liberty states for a long time. disney talks about not filming here. what are they going to do, close up disney world? florida's been a religious liberty state since 1998. it's a false dichotomy to say you have faith on the one hand or business on the other or for that matter faith on one hand and the gay community on the other. these are not irreconcilable. and what we want to do is just

make sure that everyone's protected. >> what do you say to that? does he have a point? >> listen, most mainstream religious groups now fully support lgbt rights. so we're only talking about a tiny minority of religious groups. and i think this ship has sailed. americans now favor equality across the board. and to say that a religious excuse should exist in the face of gay rights law is something most americans reject. if he doubts the power of disney, i'm sorry, disney has a lot of power. well beyond disney world. all the films they make. all of the tv shows. it's a huge powerful company. and i think the georgia governor was right in saying we don't want to offend disney. >> let's turn to north carolina now and the state's new law that's seen as anti-lgbt. the american civil liberties union filed a lawsuit against the law which restricts local governments from passing their own anti-discrimination laws and restricts which public restrooms transgender people can use. now, as you well know, lisa, governor pat mccrory says the

groups challenging the law are slandering the state. >> oh, please. >> talk to me about this. are we looking at some kind of long drawn-out legal battle here? >> we might. and it's not going to be over slander because i do defamation cases myself. i represent a client against bill cosby in a defamation case. i'm very conversant in it. and you're not slandering the state when you're making a true statement, namely, that discrimination is legal in that state. it was illegal in certain municipalities. the statewide law passed. and now it's legal. that's not slander. it's just a true statement of fact. >> sow think this is going to be contained at the state level, this isn't something that could end up in the supreme court? >> i don't think so. i doubt it. i think this is something that will probably be fought the same way it was just fought in georgia. people will boycott the state. and the economic pressure seems to be the fastest way to get results these days. and i salute all of these corporations who are saying we stand for equality, we're not going to do business in states that don't support equality. good for them. that gets the quickest results. >> and there was a favorable result in georgia. >> just like that.

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donald trump is grandpa trump for the eighth time. his daughter ivanka gave birth to a boy over the weekend. cnn's jeanne moos reports on the ted in the trump family. >> reporter: donald trump was a hands-on grandpa. >> ivanka, you know we have a hospital ready just in case. >> reporter: even before there was i ababy for him to put his hands on. well, here he is. meet theodore james, born in new york city. >> congratulations. >> thank you. that's very exciting. >> how did it happen? what time? >> how did it happen? >> i know how it happened. don't answer that. >> reporter: trump had told a mostly jewish audience gsh. >> my daughter ivanka is about to have a beautiful jewish baby. >> reporter: ivanka converted to judaism before marrying jared kirschner. and the baby was born --

>> on easter. so we have an easter baby, which is beautiful. >> donald trump. kissing babies? >> reporter: when they're his own. >> hi, sweetheart. >> reporter: donald now has eight grandchildren. abc's "20/20" caught the donald's warm and fuzzy side when the kids stormed his office. ivanka's 4-year-old told her this. >> and my daughter sees a large pothole in the middle of a new york city street and she looks at me and she goes, mom, grandpa would not like that. >> reporter: the donald once read "winners aren't losers" to one of his granddaughters. jimmy kimmel supplied the book. >> winners do deals and winners get rich. while sad little losers just sit there and [ bleep ]. >> koochy coo, baby theodore, we wanted you to have this video scrapbook so that someday you could look back and see how even though you were still in the womb you were already part of the 2016 presidential campaign. >> ivanka's going to have a baby like tonight. in fact, it could be happening right now. >> it could be any second. it could even be before i'm

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