. hello, i'm wolf blitzer, it's noon in milwaukee, 1:00 p.m. here in washington. 10:00 p.m. here in lahore, pakistan. we begin this hour with the political firestorm over donald trump's controversial comments on abortion. today a rare admission from the trump campaign that he misspoke when he said that women who had abortions should be punished if the procedure were made illegal here in the united states. we're going to hear from the trump campaign live in just a minute. but first a closer look at how

all of this unfolded. trump made the initial marks in an interview with chris matthews on msnbc. >> do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no as a principle. >> the answer is that there has to be some form of punishment. >> what kind of punishment? 10 cents or 10 years? >> i don't know. it's a complicated position. >> later on came this statement from trump, quote, this issue is unclear and should be put back into the states for determination. like reagan, i am pro-life with exceptions, which i have outlined numerous times. finally a little bit after that. this clarification, if congress were to pass legislation making abortion illegal and the federal courts upheld this legislation or any state were permitted to ban abortion under state and federal law, the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon a woman, would

be held legally responsible not the woman. the woman is the victim in this case as is the life in her womb. he goes on to say, my position has not changed, like ronald reagan, i am pro-life with exceptions. a spokesman for the trump campaign is joining us from dallas. i'm going the try to clear up much of the confusion that's out there, let's go through some specific questions that are still out there, as you just heard, donald trump says that the doctors, the nurses, those who would perform the abortion, if it were made illegal here in the united states should be punished, should be held legally responsible, i think that was the phrase he used. what kind of punishment is he talking about? >> well, since this is a hypothetical question, abortion is legal in this country and mr. trump was just talking about simple legalities, if something

is against the law and they break the law they should be punished, now how that law is upheld should be up to the states. >> he says he's anti-abortion, but there are exceptions, what are the exceptions? >> yes, mr. trump's position is fully that he is pro life, with the exceptions of rape and incest. and inns what's interesting about this, this was a liberal journalist who uses the same old tactics that try to trap pro life politicians, particularly republicans down this line. because there is still the person hood discussion when it comes to abortion, the public is becoming more and more pro life on this issue so they try to make it difficult f politicians to handle these questions. mr. trump was giving his answers and put out a full clarification afterwards. >> and you say he misspoke in his initial statement during that interview, right?

>> well, simply because should women be punished and mr. trump said yes, which is why he put out a clarification, the answer is no, women would not be punished, women would be the victim. the person actually breaking the law in this case performing an actual procedure if it were illegal should be punished. >> mr. trump says the exceptions are rape and incest? >> what about late term abortions to save the life of the mother? >> mr. trump does not support late term abortions, but that is one of the -- mr. trump is pro life with those particular exceptions. and mr. trump also said in his statement that his position has not changed, his policies have not changed, he just issued a clarification to make sure that everyone understood that he does not support punishing the mother, a woman if she has an

illegal abortion. >> in that same conversation with chris matthews, he said that the man impregnating the woman getting the abortion, shouldn't be punished, is that still his position? >> could you repeat that? >> the man impregnating the woman getting the illegal abortion, if it were made illegal in the united states, the man getting the woman pregnant shouldn't be punished. i'm just wondering is that still his position, because he's clarified his earlier position. >> this is mr. trump's position, okay? mr. trump is pro life with the three exceptions. what we're talking about now is a hypothetical context which is completely irrelevant in today's society as it is. so the bottom line here is that mr. trump does not support punishment of a woman if an abortion is illegal and we'll leave it at that. >> cecile richards, the

president of planned parenthood issued this statement and i'll read it to you. this is a man who genuinely does not care about the health and safety of women only about his political ambitions. i want to give you a chance to respond. >> this is planned parenthood, the organization that has been chopping up baby's body parts so they can go out and buy new lamborghinis. so they don't -- >> mr. trump says he supports planned parenthood -- >> i'm almost there, wolf. i'm almost there, wolf. >> he says he supports preponderance, he says he supports funding planned parenthood to do abortion, but he says they do very important work. >> i'm almost there, wolf, we do support the idea of life saving procedures like cervical cancer screenings, but this organization to this day still continues to perform abortions,

so they have no position to weigh in on particularly the life of the child. a lot more people in this country are pro life too, as science and technology advances, particularly with late term abortions u hillary clinton is the extremist when it comes to abortion, wolf. >> where is the evidence that they're purchasing lamborghini. >> she wanted a new lamborghini so they were talking about harvesting baby parties for research. >> you're getting criticized not just from the pre-abortion rights, even the anti-abortion people said trump's comments were, quote, completely out of touch with the pro life movement sand even more women who have chosen such a sad thing as abortion. they're suggesting as basically other critics from the right are

suggesting, from the pro life movement, that he's tone deaf, if you will, he really doesn't have a good understanding of his own position. and i'll give you a chance to respond to that criticism. >> that is simply because of the original statements, however the clarified statement was out shortly thereafter which shows his position has not changed. i don't even think i have ever seen this type of scrutiny when a candidate says something and corrects the record. particularly like when barack obama back in 2008 when he was a candidate and was talking about his muslim faith. he didn't see headlines that said barack obama has changed his religion in an interview, we didn't see that because he didn't mean to say that, supposedly because the anchor corrected him along the way. mr. trump has made it very clear that he is pro life with exceptions and does not support punishing a woman for having an abortion, whether it's legal or not. >> does he want the 1973 supreme

court decision roe v. wade that ruled the unconstitutional state law banning abortion, does he want that overturned? >> he says that this is not something he could do, it should be left up to the states. we live in republic. the states should be deciding these issues. >> but does he believe roe v. wade should be overturned? >> mr. trump says he does support the states making these decisions, if roe v. wade were overturned that's exactly what would happen. >> -- he would have to pass a litmus test -- >> every -- we live in a country

that is supposed to protect and preserve life at all levels. and that's the missing point here. there are over 55 million people who are not participating in the world today because of abortion. that is a bigger problem we are facing here, wolf. he says that he once again hasn't thought through the issues and will say anything just to get attention. hillary clinton tweeted something similar, just when you thought it couldn't get worse, horrific and telling. john kasich came out swinging against donald trump. >> it appears as though when he does these events and -- he becomes unmoored and he spends a long time trying to figure out how to correct the mistakes he

has made. as commander in chief and leader of the free world, you don't get do overs, you need to be able to get it right the first time. >> go ahead and respond to governor kasich. >> look, mr. trump is the only candidate on the republican side that's not receiving a government paycheck because he's not a scripted politician and that was a conversation. for hillary clinton to weigh in on the disgust, this is a woman who supports a 12 and 13-year-old having an abortion without parental consent. those are the types of disgusting things that the left stands for, not simply misstating something and correcting it immediately after. this is not the end of the world, mr. trump has corrected the record and we're going to move forward accordingly. >> this issue that you're talking about issues involving women could further undermight have been the support he has among women. his favorability number is only 24%, 74% of women in the united

states have an unfavorable image of donald trump among women registered to vote, 26% favor, 73% unfavorable and among republican women voters, 59% favorable 39% unfavorable. he has a problem out there, didn't he? >> if you look at the polling, yes, but he did start under water for women on the republican side too and they are still voting for him. as soon as we lock up the nomination, we're going to focus on that. >> the campaign manager, the white house press secretary, josh ernest, he weighed in con the arrest on tuesday. listen to this. >> i am confident that neither president obama nor president bush would tolerate someone on their staff being accused of physically assaulting a reporter. lying about it, and then blaming the victim. # that is completely

unacceptable behavior. >> you want to respond to the white house? >> well, sure. i would like to know bwhy they stood behind hillary clinton when people were killed in benghazi. this is a man who was innocent until proven guilty, a man with four small children who is being accused of a crime that he did not commit. he will be newly exonerated and we are fully confident of that. >> mr. obama will be meeting with national security advisors who are's in the meeting. >> si do not have that list, i have been doing meetings all day, but i'll be happy to get that to you. >> any details you can share with us? >> actually it might be over now, but i'll get that information to you. >> we would love to get a list of his foreign policy advisors he's been meeting with.

>> thank you for joining us. >> great to be with you, thank you. we'll have more on donald trump's abortion comments and the latest on the controversy. it's been a rough week for the scam pain. we'll look at that critical primary that's coming up next tuesday. and of the targets are scary enough, now imagine what isis could do with nuclear weapons. now world leaders are working now to prevent that from ever happening. you both have a

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donald trump coming under fire for calling for punishment for women who have abortions. but that's not the only expect that has stirred up controversy. >> there's still emphasis on nato, and you need different countries because it involves different countries. nato is very obsolete. i said you never should settle this case, you should go all the way. you really hurt a very good person. it would be very easy to disguard this person, but i don't disguard this person. i would say the top three are security, security, security,

security. we have to have security for our country. at some point, we have to say, you know what? we're better off if japan protects itself against this maniac in north korea, we're better off frankly if south korea is going to start to protect itself. >> saudi arabia? >> saudi arabia of course. >> you don't think they should -- right now cnn politics executive editor mark preston and our chief political corporate dana bash. mark, it's not often we hear the trump campaign say something along the lines of what we heard be katrina pierson, he misspoke, he didn't mean to say what he said about punishing women who have illegal abortions here in the united states. that's pretty unusual. >> it is pretty unusual. he had a tough time telling

anderson cooper the last time he remembers apologizing to anyone. it's an even bigger issue. right now let's talk about right track wrong track, if you were to look at a cnn poll back in december, he had a 59% approval rating overall. if you go even deeper into that, he has lost 20 points among republican women, so that's a problem even before he made these comments. >> even this latest poll that was taken before this. >> and the general electorate, if he does become the republican nominee, right now three-quarters of women have an unfavorable view of him. obviously that is changeable and anything can happen. but there are lots of sort of aspects of this that cause trouble for him. one is just women, but another is the fact that he did something that is not so easy. he made the anti-abortion crowd

angry and the abortion rights crowd angry. that's nearly impossible to do. obviously because abortion rights groups and activists and so forth think it should remain legal, but specifically, groups that have been working very, very hard to make abortion illegal have said consistently that they believe it is the doctor or the person who is involved in doing the procedure who should be punished, not the woman and that's why they both were so angry at him. >> i want you to listen to dr. ben carson, he was the republican presidential candidate, listen to what he said erin burnett last night. >> what you develop with experience is how to answer that in a way that is not definitive, you know how politicians are, he hasn't really learned that because he's not a politician. but he has now had time to come back and think about it and to talk with his people about it and come up with a more rational

and informed type of answer. >> the criticism, as you know, mark, of donald trump is he often just speaks and later he's got to clarify. >> which he just did, he did it three times actually. the problem with that answer from dr. carson is not necessarily what donald trump said, but how he responded and then had to respond again, and had to respond again and had to respond again, when you're the president of the united states, you don't have three swings at the bat, you get one swing at the bat. and last night, donald trump had he misspoke, he should have tried to clarify it as quickly as he could rather than having to go back and fix it over and over again. >> john kasich just about an hour ago, he really came out swinging, more so than he has in this campaign at all swinging at donald trump. >> because he sees more of an opening than he's seen not just

because of donald trump's remarks, but because they're going to compete in the political trail ahead, in new york, new jersey and pennsylvania. but the one thing i will say about what you said, he kind of said something and then he thinks about it afterwards and has to clarify, and ben carson, kind ofof ironically has to -- it's not about being a politician or speaking in political speak s he can be donald trump and have well thought out policy positions. they're not mutually exclusive and i think that's what he ran up against with this. >> if donald trump were to look at his campaign, turn it around 180 degrees, still have his brashness and be careful what he says, and take the advice of political professionals, i think we would see a different campaign. hillary clinton an bernie

sanders both have roots in new york state, but who has the edge with is voters. that's coming up. and a live look at bernie sanders in washington. he's meeting with his national security team here in the nation's capital. later today he's going the visit the republican national committee headquarters in washington. stand by, we'll have extensive live coverage. if you have medicare

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all right, let's turn to the democrats now running for president. take a look at this, life pictures coming in from a hillary clinton campaign event. on the right another campaign

event, this time it's in new york city, led by her husband, the former president of the united states, bill clinton. bernie sanders held events in pennsylvania this morning, but he will be back in the bronx in new york tonight. bernie sanders is hoping he can cut into that support and surprise hillary clinton on the april 19th new york state primary. this new quinnipiac poll in new york shows he has quite a hill to climb. clinton leads bernie sanders 54% to 42% at least right now. joining us to talk about the race in new york and elsewhere, our senior political correspondent brianna keeler. what makes bernie sanders think he can actually take on hillary clinton in new york, how important will it be for him to do really real there? >> reporter: it would be very important, wolf, and actually hillary clinton makie ining her

to the stage right now. just look at the map, this is a big fat prize of a state, almost 300 delegates an bernie sanders is trailing clinton by about 200 delegates, he needs to do well in new york. in the meantime, you were looking at that poll, he's trying to give hillary clinton a run for her money here. but what he's also trying to do in wisconsin, hoping to get a little bit of a bump, hoping to do well there. but he faces a lot of challenges. hillary clinton gets a lot of support from a diverse -- bernie sanders is talking to unions, he's trying to chip away at some of those white democrat who is have been more friendly to him than to hillary clinton. that's why you see bill clinton today talking to four different union groups, he's trying to shore up that support for his wife. and even if the margin is tight,

even if she wins here, if the margin is too tight, that is something that could be embarrassing for her so she certainly wants to maintain a large lead over bernie sanders. >> we're going to monitor this, brianna and get back to you. thanks very much. coming up, president obama kicks off a major very critical summit of world leaders right here in washington, d.c., how they're working tot to prevent the unthinkable, isis mad men, terrorists in possession of nuclear weapons. live pictures also here in washington, d.c. donald trump is meeting with his national security team in the nation's capital. he's been quiet so far, no campaign events, we expect him to mikeake a statement, we'll h coverage. megared krill oil. unlike fish oil, megared is easily absorbed by your body. megared. the difference is easy to absorb.

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. you can ski this -- not just regular hotel. a trump hotel and inside that building right now is donald trump. we're told by his aides that he's been meeting with his national security team. his national security advisors, he's expected to emerge fairly soon, make some sort of statement, maybe answer some reporters' questions, we'll have live coverage of that, that's the image you're seeing right there. in the meantime, there's other major news unfolding in washington. right now, president obama is hosting his fourth and final nuclear summit here in washington. representatives from more than 50 nations, they're discussing what the white house calls is greatest threat to security in the world today, nuclear security and isis. last hour the president spoke

more about the issue during a meeting with leaders from japan and south korea. >> we are committed to working together on combatting isil and at the end of this nuclear security summit, there's going to be an international focus on what additional steps need to be taken in light of the terrible tragedy that took place in brussels, both the republic of south korea and japan have been stalwart allies in that process. >> elise lavin has more now on the potential nuclear threat that isis poses. >> reporter: raiding the home of a suspected planner of last november's paris attacks, belgian authorities found surveillance video of a top belgian nuclear scientist. that suspect, part of the same isis cell accused of last week's attacks in belgium. the shocking discovery turned the heads of counter terrorism

experts, with belgium at risk for obtaining -- >> a small dirty bomb would not just cause panic, not just cause people to flee the city, it would contaminate tens of square blocks for years. >> those fears now top the agenda at this week's nuclear summit. president obama first con cleaned tclean -- convened the council. >> it's clear that the danger of nuclear -- >> reporter: since that warning, 12 countries have eliminated nuclear material. but weapons-grade materials remains in five countries. isis is now a global network, already using chemical weapons on the battlefield. a recent what aharvard universi

group says isis has, quote, grown dramatically. >> we don't know what the terrorist threat is going to look like two years, five years, ten years from now, and to me that's even stronger reason to lock down all the ingredients of a potential nuclear recipe. >> i spoke about the threat with brett mcgirk, he's the special envoy to the isis threat. >> they don't only warm to expand their territory in iraq and syria, they want to attack us here at home, they want to attack our partners. it's something they have talked about for years and if they could get hands on munitions like that they wouldn't hesitate to use them. >> where is isis most likely from your analysis, all your

reporting, where are they most likely to be able to acquire nuclear materials to build some sort of dirty bomb, if you will? >> well, for years, counter terrorism experts have worried about the stands, the former soviet states that are independent countries have had a lot of fissile materials and a lot of obama's efforts over the lag six years have been basically to lock that down, get it expose, get it secured. but as we have seen, if western euro europe, if belgium, if the headquarters of nato cannot 100% secure it's nuclear materials, then it could happen almost anywhere, so this gathering of world leaders, this is an important moment for i think the obama administration to make the point that the threat can come from almost anywhere and almost any time and so that -- and so

everybody has to be vigilant, you can't simply pay attention to one part of the world over the yeothers. >> one of the concerns is that isis, they have oil, they have stolen a lot of money in mosul, they took over banks in iraq, there was a lot of valuable stuff. could they purchase some radiological material from some place to build that so-called dirty bomb that could call enormous death and destruction? >> the people that gain these things, the scenario is whether they could buy it from crumpet eastern european mafias that have access to former soviet caches of nuclear materials and if they could find somebody within a nuclear capable country like pakistan, somebody who supports their cause, the pakistani military says they

routinely look very closely at the feel who work in their establishment and make sure that won't happen, but that is something that they need to be afraid of. and you rightly point out, wolf, that isis unlike al qaeda control parts of fairly large countries, thigh can build under ground facilities, they have access to laboratories, so physical infrastructure that could be used to make at least a dirty bomb, if not a full-fledged nuke. so this is something you don't want to be alarmist about it, but at the same time, i think for the past six years, the president and the administration have been making the point that this is probably the most dangerous threat to the world. >> yeah, and especially you drop one of those dirty bombs in a heavily populated urban area, who knows the result or what would happen. and i know it's the nightmare scenario of these top leaders who are gathered here in

washington from 50 nations right now, that's what they're worried about the most, at least right now. bobby, thanks very much. coming up, stocks rising, unemployment falling, but still -- we're going to discuss also this, we wanted to take a moment to congratulate the founder ted turner who received an award from unicef. congratulations to ted turner, job well done, we'll be right back.

there seems to be one big issue driving this election, we're talking about anger, anger at the establishment, anger at the washington gridlock, anger at the economy. cnn money's chief business correspondent christine romans introduces us to this angry voter. >> primary voters give the economy right now an f and polls show they are angry, angry at a jobless rate at 9.4%.

another big jobs report tomorrow expected to show further improvement in the jobs market. mortgage rates are down, the stock market is up. gas prices remain pretty cheap. that's not the conversation around american kitchen tables. their conversation is around closing -- and this chart i think really speaks volumes, looking at household income, down $3,700 since 2007. at $53,657 median income is back down to 1995 levels. in 2001, there was -- by the year 2013, that number had dwichbdled to 11.3 million workers in 292,000 fact fridays and american voters feel it. they feel left behind by a 21st

century economy they believe benefits investors and share holderings and bosses and party leaders the superrich and status quo politicians, not the middle class. essentially their economic self esteem is in the dumps in election year. but here is a curious wrinkle. when asked about their personal economy, primary voters in exit pollings show they're holding steady. it is a remarkable disconnect, wolf. >> our chief national correspondent the anchor of inside politics john king is with me. it's fueled so much of this anger. >> donald trump is riding a wave we've seen before. remember ross perot, that giant sucking sound, jobs going to mexico. donald trump, to a lesser degree, bernie sanders, going into that where is my job, not only my job, but my community. you've seen that playing out.

we've seen this in the republican party. both 2010 and 2014. and the republican establishment tried to snuff those voters out, tried to raise money to beat those voters. get candidates those voters didn't like. and now we see it, the genie's out of the bottle, anger at trade, anger at the establishment, anger at washington dysfunction. it's bipartisan. the dynamic that trump is tapping. the question is, can he ride it to the nomination? he's got a ways to go to get there. if he's the nominee, how does he carry that into a general election in a republican/democrat race? when ross perot rode it to almost 20 million votes. he was the third party candidate. we haven't seen a major party candidate trying to hug this acre and keep it within existing coalition. >> sort of the anger, generating the support for trump, a lot is generating support for bernie sanders as well. >> if hillary clinton is the democratic nominee, how does she keep the sanders voters who are

mad about the economy, who are uncertain about the direction of the economy, uncertain whether they're going to have a job or their kids are going to have a job in their community, how does she embrace them and keep them in to the democratic coalition or if trump is the nominee, do those voters who are angry go over to him? it's a different calculation when you're in a general calculation because each candidate -- assuming there is only two. if trump is the nominee, there could be a conservative third party candidate and the libertarians might try to take some of those voters too. hillary clinton and donald trump, if they are the nominee, will look at the map and say how do i get to 270 electoral votes? ohio would be key. you have that rust belt economy, those kind of angry about the economy voters there. north carolina, another big former mill and industry state, that now has become more of a high-tech medical community. hillary clinton and donald trump will be fighting over that. so then in a general election, we go swing state to swing state and see how the anger plays out. there's no question, the biggest national dynamic right now is what i call the stew of negative

emotions. some of it's anxiety. >> how unusual is it? we've covereds this campaigns. how unusual? >> i think it's higher than it was even in the 1990 -- the highest we've seen in a presidential election was in a perot dynamic which faded a little bit. but 20% of the vote in 1992, that was a game-changing election. now we're seeing it play out not in a third party structure but within two existing parties at least at the moment. i think this has been bubbling and bubbling from perot to the tea party and now it is a defining moment in our presidential campaign. >> john king's "inside politics" sundays at 8 a.m., excellent hour for all of us political junkies. take a quick break, we'll be right back.

you're looking at some live pictures, right outside the republican national committee headquarters here in washington, d.c., up on capitol hill, we expect donald trump to be walking through that area momentarily, maybe make a statement. he's been meeting earlier today with his nartional security advisers. he's been meeting with. john king is with me. we have a partial list of advisers he says are helping them. supposedly we're going to get more today. >> this has been one of the questions from the beginning, who do you listen to, who do you get advice? when we see tragedies here in the united states, paris, brussels, the bombing in pakistan in recent days, who does trump talk to for advice? for a long time, he wouldn't say at all. then he leareleased a small lis. he's had to face questions when he said, you know, i talk to myself or i watch the shows and i see the generals on the shows. but i talk to the guy in the mere because i trust my own

judgment. some voters like that. some are a little bit scared by that. going to the national political party headquarters is interesting because we're at this fascinating moment. will donald trump get to the convention with enough delegates to clinch or will we have an open convention where you have to master the rules of being on the floor. or will people who help set the rules, the republican nationally committee, with whom he's had a hot and cold relationship. >> i know there's been some concern that all of the remaining presidential candidates, they've walked away from their earlier so-called loyalty pledge they would support whoever eamericans as the republican nominee? >> and the chairman has attributed that to the heat of battle, if you will, and by the time we get to cleveland, all of the republicans will calm down and say i'm ready to support the nominee but that is by no means a certainty. you've seen john kasich trying to position himself as the

alternative. if you get to an open convention, all three of them saying i don't know, ask me later, it's premature to ask me about that now. that tells you the boiling water in this contest for the nomination right now. so donald trump's the front run, the faraway front-runner. donald trump needs his people to understand and master those rules if you do have an open convention. he would also like trump to stop saying things that are controversial whether it's about the kkk or some issues of violence at some of his rallies. they've had some contention in recent weeks. overall, they have a respectful relationship where they communicate with each other. it could be now in cleveland more of an issue. >> in cleveland, that's where the republican convention will take place. the trump campaign leased what they called the make america great congressional u.s. house leadership committee, chaired by two members of congress. duncan hunter and chris collins, both republicans who support trump. more of this is supposedly on

the way. we'll stand by to hear what trump has to say. john king, thanks very much. that's it for me. thanks very much for watching. in the meantime, the news continues next right here on cnn. hello, great to have you along with us on this thursday. i'm pamela brown, in today for brooke baldwin. republicans hope to stop donald trump from becoming their party's nominee are facing a new sense of urgency after the front run ae runner's stunning assertion about abortion. now one of his gop rivals says that's far from the only reason trump is unfit to be president. john kasich just laid out his own top five. take a listen. >> we know about his comments on abortion, which have put women in a very difficult position and we know he has since moved to correct those, in one way or