>> it is friday! >> be on the lookout for any april fool's jokes. donald trump meeting with the rnc. he says it was to discuss unifying the party. the surprise meeting comes after all the gop cancelled dates back the pledge. >> republican front-runner says his meeting with the party leaders terrific. but rivals are calling him unfit to lead. trailing ted cruz by double digits in wisconsin with that primary four days away. we have this race covered for you only the way cnn can. >> he swept back after what can only be called one of the more

turbulent and damaging weeks of his campaign. he had a couple goals there. one was to brief up on foreign policy. but the primary one, an unannounced meeting with the rnc. that meeting was for a particular reason, not only to figure out the delegate game going forward but to mend ties not just with the rnc but the establishment in general, calling for unity. donald trump now trying to make nice after fallout of another political firestorm. republican front-runner in washington for a meeting with the chairman of the national committee. it focused o'dell gatz ahead of the convention. just days after trump and the other gop hopefuls backed out of their pledge to support the nominee. >> it was a very good meeting.

>> trump huddling with foreign policy advisers for a two-hour private meeting as his comments continue to rile american allies. >> if you said in japan, yes, it's fine you get nuclear weapons, then saudi arabia will say we want them too. >> do you believe in punishment for abortion? >> the answer is there has to be some form of punishment. >> his rivals seizing, claiming he's not qualified for the oval office. >> i have to tell you as commander in chief and leader of the free world, you don't get do-ofs. >> ohio governor kasich with an attack on the front-runner. >> the abortion controversy, using nukes in the middle east,

get rid of nato, the geneva convention, and having a supreme court justice to investigate hillary's e-mails. i don't know what he is talking building there. >> sending out heidi, attempting to underscore his difficulty with women voters. >> the efforts by the cruz campaign very specifically targeted and looking like they are having an effect. he shows his opening up a double digit lead on donald trump in wisconsin. one of the primary drivers of that lead, his unfavorability with women. guys, i am in pennsylvania. one of the next big places for the primary. john kasich said he will continue to go after donald trump. underscoring as we have seen the last couple of days the

republican party at possibly its most fractured state. even if donald trump calls for unity, nobody is sure what the way forward is. >> thanks so much for all that background. here to discuss it is a little bit cal anchor errol lewis and maeve reston. great to have boat of you here. the chairman is in constant communication with all the candidates and there are campaigns meeting with cancelled dates and their campaigns are common. >> despite the etiquette on both side, this is still a months file takeover that donald trump is attempting on the republican party. there's really no getting around it.

that doesn't mean the rules are going to be changed for him. i imagine he would stand his ground on that. if he doesn't have the delegates he has flat out, then there is going to be turmoil at the convention. i don't see any other way this two work out. >> very interesting language. just had a nice meeting. the gop looking forward to bringing the party together. and it will happen. and they're nice people. certainly this last week, or last 48 hours of controversy, not helping. especially when you look at the polls in wisconsin.

>> exactly. he very quickly ends up in an ad that is used against him in the fall. this is a difficult two-week stretch. it makes you start to wonder whether he is reaching a tipping point where the comments on abortion and on nukes will start to give people pause, particularly those people in the primary states coming up that aren't necessarily with him now but were considering him. the other candidates are making an argument they would be stronger against hillary clinton. he is giving them a lot to chew over this week. i think the rnc meeting, it's important to understand, that the delegate rules are so complicated if this does go to a contested convention.

they would sit down and talk it over. it is a matrix. incredibly complicated politics. and a lot for both sides to learn and go over. >> maeve, you just completed an interesting exercise. you pored through thousands of pages of donald trump's magazine profiles, of speeches, of tv interviews to try and determine who is the real donald trump basically. donald trump on revenge. this is how to get rich in 2004. when someone hurts you, just go after them as viciously and violently you can. that's telling. i think we have seen that. donald trump on shallowness. this is from his book "think like a billionaire." whenever i make a creative choice, i try to step back and

remember my first shallow reaction. the day i realized it could be smart to be shallow. what are some of the other themes you have learned from the experience? >> it was so interesting to read through this hodgepodge. he has written more than a dozen books. but there is a lot in there that gives you a better sense of his philosophy on governance, his management style. of course we have seen him talk about all of this on the campaign trail. but he has a title in one of his books that is revenge. if people screw you, screw them back in spades. paranoia is another theme. saying it is good to be paranoid. a chapter says do not trust anyone. it raises a lot of interesting questions about what kind of president he would be.

what kind of circle he would be comfortable having around him. his philosophy on life is different than a lot of other presidential candidates we have seen. there's a lot there in his books that tells you about how he really feels. >> you're going to think this is a little nuts. when he talks about being shallow it is a tipping point. the first reaction is the best reaction and not to overthink it. that's how he has done business here in new york city. from the very beginning, the people who did not underestimate donald trump says he's used to the media waters in new york city. he is used to dealing with the

big guys in new york, as errol knows, as somebody who has been following him. he does everything off the cuff. that says a lot about him. >> don, i have to disagree a little bit. some of the theme of the last few days -- >> it is what makes him tick. >> speaking off the cuff is how he got into this about nuclear weapons for south korea, saudi arabia. this is what opponents are seizing on. shallow doesn't work in the office office. >> it worked for him in the beginning. when you get down to it, you need to have substance and depth. >> down deep, we're shallow. that's what he is seeming to say. stick around. we want to talk to you about the democratic side as well. >> we will talk about the

democratic side and the battle between hillary clinton and bernie sanders. clinton is a former sanders. sanders born in brooklyn. this is as voters in wisconsin head to the polls. >> tensions running high as the race drags on. hillary clinton calling out bernie sanders at an event at the state university of new york. she ran into a small group of protesters saying if she wins, we lose. didn't stop there. on the rope line after the event, a greenpeace activist asking her about taking money from the fossil fuel industry and the pointed angry response from the candidate underscoring some of the frustrations her campaign has been expressing for some time now. listen.

>> the sanders campaign citing a greenpeace article saying mrs. clinton has relied heavily on money from lobbyists in the oil and gas industry. the stakes are so high in delegate rich new york where both candidates have strong ties in creating potential for a raw and confrontational match. adding to that, the tension -- the perception of what is a big push in new york means the clinton campaign may have to deemphasize the wisconsin primary where bernie sanders appears to hold a narrow advantage. >> interesting, joe.

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this monster primary. this is a home state of sorts for both candidates. clinton ahead in the poll as you can see there. it's a 12-point lead. but she's not taking any chances. she pulled out the big guns. her husband out stomping for her. she needs a good showing, errol lewis. >> she absolutely does. bernie sanders, as a practical matter, will try to close the 200 delegate lead clinton has. if he is going to do anyplace, new york would be the place to try to do it. it would be devastating for hillary clinton if she were to say lose or even have sanders come so close that it casts doubt on whether or not she has a solid lead. >> but she's close. >> 11 points is nice. but it was 48 points in a recent poll. it was 34 points on average the past few months. look, i have talked with the

clinton people. they knew this was going to get tighter. when clip comes into the state and raised $40 million the last couple of months, he's going to have a lot of resources. he has all the motivation in the world to try and catch her. they were bracing for this. that's why you see bill clinton on the stump. you see events in harlem and so forth. they know this is going to be the tight. they can't let it get too tight. >> to me that's still time. she leads in new york. but she is behind wisconsin by four points, right, for bernie sanders? he is gaining momentum. in february, he was clearly -- it was clearly a wider margin. but the question is, is he getting under her skin. because i want you to look at this exchange with a greenpeace activist yesterday.

>> wow. she says the sanders campaign is lying. but the question is are we headed towards possibly a michigan-like upset here, maeve? >> well, i think that, you know, things are looking really good in wisconsin for bernie sanders. these are the kinds of states that he has done well in. and, you know, the frustration that you see there in that exchange for clinton is a product of the fact that her campaign expected to have this wrapped up in february. and then they expected to have it wrapped up in march. now they are talking about wrapping it up in april. nobody expected bernie sanders to be able to pull off this kind of momentum in a string of states, even if the math looks very difficult for him, what his strategists are counting on is a big win in wisconsin that could send him rolling into new york. yes, it's a double digit lead

that she has. but there is a lot of opportunity for him there to pick up delegates across the country going forward. even here in california we saw polls recently where sanders is looking pretty tight with clinton. so you do see a scenario where this could go on and on. and i think that frustration you saw is a reflection of that, that he has been able to drive this narrative is the candidate of big interest and that he is out for the little people. >> errol, i want to talk about the substance of what that greenpeace activist confronted her about. she has taken lots of money, more than a million dollars, from people who are connected to the fossil fuel industries. >> yes. >> not the fossil fuel industry, the corporations. >> employees. >> is there essentially a difference? >> bernie sanders has a whole different way of approaching a lot of these questions. i think what you saw with hillary clinton's frustration

that she expressed is what you've got is an effort to say because she takes money from this industry, she changed her opinion or she was slow to sort of reach her position on fracking or she somehow has been influenced by this. what hillary clinton has said is like show me the smoking gun. show me the meeting where i had one position and i got the money and took another position. show me the e-mails. behalf the exchange was that led to this reality. the other thing that she is saying that i think we will hear a lot more of, is i'm not raising money just for myself. we have a whole democratic party, ticket up and down the line. senators. people running for governor. people running for the house of representatives who are also going to get some of this money. we have to be realistic if we're serious as a party about kind of making a change in this country.

>> it appears that bernie sanders has also received something like $54,000 from people connect to the fossil fuel industry. does he get the high ground if he's not taking as much as she is but still has some? >> i mean, i think it is certainly a point they can debate on the campaign trail. you know, hillary clinton does have some difficulty with this issue in particular because, you know, she was involved in the decision making on the keystone pipeline for some time, for example. there are a lot of activists who wish she had been a more forceful activist for their views. and i think this is the kind of debate that we'll see playing out between them over the next month or so. and hillary clinton is going to have to make a more forceful case really is not part of the establishment, that she can distance herself from the big money interests who have donated for many years to just her

campaign but to her husband's campaign. bernie sanders doesn't have that baggage. that is certainly a challenge clinton has going forward as she tries to unite the party. >> i want to talk about the clinton/trump matchup. she would beat him by 20 points. his comments on abortion not helping. look at this anti-trump superpac ad. >>. >> that's a pretty picture. >> he wouldn't have your job if you weren't here. >> do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no. >> there has to be some sort of punishment. >> for the woman? >> yeah. there has to be some form of punishment. >> love that music. >> it is a superpac. that's a self-inflicted wound. clearly a gift to the clinton campaign for donald trump, errol. >> absolutely.

in new york, as in most states actually, there are more women and men who come out and vote when there is a statewide election. so it's going to hurt him quite a bit. he also is going to have a really hard time, if it comes to this, sort of beating hillary clinton in new york state. in part because he hasn't unified -- he's talking about union feig the national party. he hasn't unified the state party. they certainly haven't lined up behind him the way the entire establishment is behind hillary clinton. he has a little work to do there as well. >> errol, maeve, have a great weekend. two dozen dead, scores more missing after a highway overpass under construction collapses. now murder charges have been filed. we'll take you live to the scene next.

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sexual realizes are reserved to marriage. gender is determined at birth. how is this different than anything we have seen before? >> well, what this bill does is to protect the religious liberty of people hold those beliefs and prevents the government from discriminating against people who hold the longheld beliefs on moral convictions. it is misleading. the intro that alisyn gave before the break was misleading saying it targets gays and lesbians. it prevents the government for people who hold those beliefs through government or retaliation. >> how does it not target gays and lesbians? marriage is between man and a woman. gender is determined at birth.

the supreme court decided that's not so. >> if you read the bill, it's not saying those things are true. it is saying those are the beliefs that have to be protected against government discrimination. because those are the beliefs that are being targeted for government discrimination now in the wake of the supreme court decision. the advocates of same-sex marriage assured us this would have no impact on religious liberty. that we would continue to be able to exercise religious liberty after same-sex marriage was legalized. the mississippi bill is trying to make good on those promises from the supporters of same-sex marriage. >> religious liberty. is that a code for discrimination? i don't want to provide services to certain people? isn't that just a code, rob? >> yeah, it is a code. we have robust protections for religious beliefs or under the first amendment of the constitution. so people have the right to believe whatever they want to

about god and practice their faith. and i certainly treasure that. it was not intended to be used as a way to deny somebody else their civil rights. if you work for the government. if you are paid by tax payers, you need to do your job. if you can't do your job, you need to find something else to do. >> listen, this allows people, again, people in certain provisions wouldn't have to serve certain people, which at its base is discrimination. employers and school administrators could dictate access to bathrooms, spas, locker rooms. clerk and deputies would be provided a process to recuse themselves.

didn't we go through that in indiana and kentucky? >> in oregon, they wanted to exercise their faith, and they were driven out of business. it didn't protect a florist in washington state who had haefl served her gay customer knowing he was openly gay for years. so this is not about discrimination against people because of who they are. when she said no to participating in the celebration of a same-sex wedding she was slapped with a lawsuit. we want to protect people like that. >> i'm sorry, peter, it's pure discrimination. lbgt people in mississippi, oregon, kentucky, wherever, we deserve the same treatment as everybody else. and there needs to be recourse,

legal recourse if someone is not treated fairly. we're standing up to that in mississippi and letting people know we're your neighbors. we sit in the cubicle next to you at work. we sit in the pew next to you at church. we deserve to be treatmented like everyone else. that's all we're asking for. >> you're not in line with the majority of americans. the question, government should leave people to follow their -- >> exactly, peter. >> the way they run their businesses 81% -- >> but you're making the point -- >> that's all this bill says. >> the main point is against your own argument. you're making his point, that the government should stay out of people's bedrooms, personal business and stay out of private business as well. >> what about the businessman who doesn't approve of same-sex marriage.

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donald trump caught up in his rapidly changing position on abortion. not the first time the candidate -- or the potential candidate has reversed a policy position during this campaign. but is any of it affecting his momentum? we want to turn to contributor at the atlantic. and professor of journalist and political of science at the university of new york and still has time for us. we love it. we'll look at three different issues. one of the first statements that he made. here's what he said for the first time he was asked about david duke's support of his candidacy. >> how do you feel about the recent endorsement from david duke? >> i didn't even know he endorsed me? david duke endorsed me?

okay. i disavow. okay. >> and he said this just two days later. >> just so you understand, i don't know anything about david duke. i don't know what you're even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists. i don't know. >> i'm talking about david duke and the ku klux klan. >> i don't know david duke. i don't think i've ever met him. i don't know anything about him. >> finally, he said this. i'm sitting in a house in florida with a very bad earpiece they gave me. you could hardly hear what he was saying. what i heard was various groups. i don't mind disavowing anybody. i disavowed david duke a day before at a major news conference. >> will there be an impact? has there been an impact on a sliding stance for this? >> yeah, there has been an impact. i think you have seen a

hardening and solidifying of hostility from people of color since that remark. and it also caught fire in popular culture in a way i think it hurt him. >> and on to immigration. we know he made several statements with this controversial comments against mexican immigrants on his first day of campaigning. >> i will build a great, great wall for the orderer and i will have mexico pay for that wall. mark my words. >> here's how he responded to fox news. >> everything. by the way, it is negotiable. things are negotiable. i'll make the wall feet shorter or something. >> the next day here's how he responded to the negotiable. >> at this moment, absolutely not. we either have a country or we don't. >> this has been a foundation from the jump. first day campaigning he talked about this beautiful wall he

would make mexico pay for. this flip-flopping, this adjustment, do you think it will damage him if he continues to waffle on this issue? >> has really helped him. the others were more pro immigration. trump was able to take a hard line against mexican immigration and seize on a lot of that discontent. the problem is it is really motivating latino voters. >> a sizable block. >> a sizable block in states like arizona, florida. we are seeing increasing rates. >> making comments about abortion. we will move to that tab here. recent comments on abortion. here's what he said on wednesday on msnbc. >> do you believe in punishment for abortion, kwrorpbgs as a principle? >> the answer is there has to be some sort of punishment. >> for the woman? >> yeah. there has to be some form.

>> 10 years? >> that, i don't know. >> okay. just hours later he released this statement. this issue is unclear and should be put back into the states for determination like ronald reagan, i am pro live with exceptions which i have outlined numerous times. but wait. then at 4:55 that very same day he releases this statement. if congress were to pass legislation making abortion illegal and the federal courts upheld this legislation, the doctor or any other person performing this illegal act upon on a woman would be held responsible not the woman. my position has not changed, like r078d reagan, i am pro live with exception. he said his position has not changed. i would argue it has. >> the problem is this makes him of his gaffe. 40 years people who were saying the punishment will be for the doctor, no punishment for the woman. they know pherpbgs would never accept the idea for punishment for women. and the fact that he didn't know

that, he was just winging it, is hurting him in wisconsin, which will vote on tuesday. >> a lot of people thought this might be the last straw. we have said that time and time before. quick final thought. >> his poll numbers are down nationally and down in washington. >> professor, thank you. what's your take? tweet us by posting on "new day" or facebook.com/newday. a lot to get to on this friday. let's get to it. unannounced meeting with the rnc. >> it is really a unity meeting. we're leading by a lot. >> fallout from yet another political firestorm. >> was a long, convoluted discussion. >> donald trump is clearly not prepared to be president of the united states. >> my stance is the same stance as ronald reagan. >> willing to say just about anything. >> secretary hillary clinton and i have very strong differences. >> we actually have to do something. not just complain about what is happening.

>> we will stand with you if you stand with us. >> the fbi was able to break into the iphone with the help of a third-party hacker, not with apple's help. >> critics say it is a hack on privacy. >> cyber security is more important than the fbi surveillance capabilities. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> good morning, everyone. welcome. chris is off. don lemon is with us. >> fully caffeinated, by the way. >> where is that big cup of coffee? ? april fools. be careful. we begin with donald trump and the republican national committee. huddling behind closed doors with party leaders. this is after they all backed away from their loyalty pledge. trump calling it a terrific meeting about unity. >> but party is anything but unified. his rivals calling him unfit for presidency after his incendiary comments on abortion and nuclear security.

trump trying to right the ship heading into next week's wisconsin primary where he trails ted cruz by double digits. we have it covered all the the way cnn can. phil mattingly is in hershey, pennsylvania, bright and early. hello, phil. >> hey, don. donald trump stepping off the campaign trail in the wake of the most turbulent and possibly politically dangerous week he has this entire campaign. a very important meeting with the rnc. the delegates, technicalities of how to secure them was the primary focus of the meeting. sources say tone. and perhaps unity was also something discussed by both sides. donald trump now trying to make nice with party leaders amid fallout from yet another political firestorm. republican front-runner in

washington. behind closed doors, sources say the discussion focused o'dell gatz ahead of the convention just days after trump and the other gop hopefuls backed out of their pledge to support the nominee. >> it was a very good meeting. we met with priebus and the staff. it's really a unity meeting. >> trump huddling with foreign policy advisers at his hotel for a private two-hour meeting. >> if you said in japan, yes, it's fine you get nuclear weapons. and south korea, you get them as well. and saudi arabia -- >> can i be honest? it's going to happen anyway. >> one day after his abortion comments put the campaign on the defensive. >> do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no, as a principle? >> the answer is that there has to be some form of punishment. >> for the woman? >> yeah.

there has been some form. >> claiming forcefully he's not qualified for the oval office. >> and i have to tell you that as commander in chief and leader of the free world, you don't get do-overs. >> unleashing a specific attack on the front-runner. >> the abortion controversy, using nukes in the middle east and europe, get rid of the geneva convention, getting rid of nato, and having a people court justice who will investigate hillary's e-mails. i don't know even know what he's talking about there. >> ted cruz sending out his wife heidi and carly fiorina attempting to underscore his difficulty with women voters. >> a very targeted strategy in wisconsin by the cruz campaign. ted cruz opening up a double digit lead in consecutive polls in wisconsin before voters head to the polls on tuesday. part of the reason why, donald trump's skyrocketing numbers with women.

trying to capitalize on that as well. i am in hershey, pennsylvania. just in case you were questioning whether or not that is true. yes, that is the case. >> oh, it's mobile. >> john kasich and ted cruz in pennsylvania. one of the next big contests going forward. john kasich will continue going after it. really underscoring the fractures that are embroiling. >> he said chocolate and none of us heard anything past that. >> it looks like three giant kiss spaceships. >> awesome. excellent live shot location, phil. >> that is great. we should take that for a spin. a road trip. the kiss mobile. all right. meanwhile, we want to talk about what's going on in the race. here to discuss it is chris collins. he was just announced as co-chair as donald trump's house leadership committee. it is his job to get members of

congress on board with donald trump. good morning. >> good morning, alisyn. >> i think its is fair to say trump has had a rough week his campaign manager getting arrested, the abortion comments, and the nukes. >> as a new yorker who has grown up in politics where you have a blood sport effectively in new york, you're heading into the home stretch. as we're into the home stretch, you will see more and more got you politics, desperation politics. we have wisconsin tuesday. a couple of weeks after that, new york. really as we get through new york and maybe a week or so after, it is going to start to credit tallize where this race is going. you're going to see a lot of nonsense got you politics, questions that are

inappropriate. we are seeing a lot of that right now. >> congressman, what was got you asking how he feels about abortion or asking him about his nuclear policy? >> well, certainly, alisyn, on abortion, it's the law of the land. roev. wade is not going to be overturned. we all know that. a hypothetical got you question is not appropriate. i would have simply answered it, it's not going to happen. what's your next question. >> he didn't answer it that way. maybe you should give him some tips. your confidence might be misplaced. not everyone knows roe v. wade will not be overturned. he was asked if he believes abortion should be banned, and he said yes. you don't think that's a fair question to is ask someone who wants to be president of the united states? >> well, i'll go back four decades. roe v. wade has been the rule of

law. for those of us not pro life, we can talk parental consent and late term abortions. to turn it back 40 years ago, it isn't to be. i think that was a got you question. donald trump answered it the way he answered it, clarified it at a later time. that is a got you, hypothetical political question. >> what about nuclear weapons? is it fair to ask the future commander in chief if he thinks other countries like south korea, japan, and saudi arabia should have nuclear weapons? >> that is a legitimate question. what has been clarified is we're going to stand firm on the nuclear proliferation treaty. i think his comment was taken --

he may have gone a little further certainly than i would have gone. again, he's putting his team together. and i have no qualms whatsoever about donald trump when it comes to national defense. as we have said many times, he is the one individual who will stand up to iran and north korea. he will stand up to russia. he is going to defeat isis. and the others, certainly president obama, just look at what happened with him in his national defense, lack of policy, lack of strategy. no, i have no qualms whatsoever about continuing to support mr. trump. he is the individual as president who is going to be able to stand with americans against the threats of the rest of the world. >> did you feel that he has command of the issues? given how he answered both those questions, you said you wouldn't have answered them that way. do you think he has a strong enough command of nuclear proliferation? >> i think he does. he's putting his team together.

first step is to win the nomination. the second is to win the general. all the candidates are saying they're not going to support each other. when push comes to shove, we will all support the republican nominee to defeat hillary clinton. that's where our energy is going to be focused. again, he is putting his team together. i continue to support donald trump. i'm proud with duncan hunter to chair his leadership committee here in washington, d.c. certainly as he wins the nomination we have to bring everyone together with unity to focus on defeating hillary clinton in november. >> congressman, what has that been like? are you getting push back when you are trying to get other republicans on board to support donald trump? >> there's no push back whatsoever, alisyn, with the exception of four or five members who have gone on the record saying what they say. i believe in the end they will support donald trump as president. most are focused on their own reelection, their own primaries

coming up. the primary process, all politics is local. most everyone is focused on their own primaries, general elections. the issues are important to them in their congressional district. all saying they will support the republican nominee to defeat hillary clinton in her liberal progressive agenda. >> congressman chris collins, thank you so much for being auto "new day". over to michaela. >> a look at the democratic side now. a battle for new york heating up. it is also getting personal. hillary clinton and bernie sanders going on blistering attacks with close to 250 delegates at stake. all of this as voters in wisconsin head to the polls in a razor-tight race. joe johns is live in d.c. with more. hi, joe. >> good morning, michaela. the bernie sanders campaign is claiming it had another huge fund-raising month in march, which keeps him cruising along in the case for delegates.

hillary clinton calling out bernie sanders at an event at the state university of new york and found herself confronted by a small group of protesters chanting if she wins, we lose. the secretary of state not backing down, asserting it was bernien people who came to say that. a greenpeace activist asked her about taking money from the fossil fuel industry and the pointed, angry response from the candidate underscoring some of the frustrations her campaign has been expressing. take a listen. >> i do not. i have money from people who work for fossil fuel companies. i am so sick, i am so sick of the sanders campaign lying about that. i am sick of it! >> the sanders campaign citing a greenpeace article said mrs. clinton relied heavily on money from lobbyists from the oil and gas is industry. big picture, this shows how high

the stakes are in delegate-rich new york where both candidates have strong ties, setting the stage for what could be a potentially raw and confrontational stretch in the campaign for the nomination. new york is the biggest state left on the map, with the exception of california. adding to that, the perception that with a big push in new york, the clinton campaign may be deemphasizing wisconsin. >> showing proof we are not the same person sometimes. >> yeah. i've run into that. >> joe, have a great morning. thank you very much. president barack obama said to huddle with dozens of world leaders on day two of the final nuclear summit. on the agenda, working with china to contain north korea nuclear threat and keeping groups like isis of getting hold of chemical or radiological weapons. kpb's correspondent athena jones. >> good morning, don. another busy day ahead for the president.

a big topic of the summit was north korea. of course the longer term goal of a denuclearization of the entire korean peninsula is an issue that came up with the leaders of japan and south korea. and also with china's president ping. take a listen what president obama had to say after that meeting with the president. >> of great importance to both of us is north korea's pursuit of nuclear weapons, which threatens the security and stability of the region. president xi and i are dedicated to full implementation of u.n. sanctions. >> the president spoke with french president hollande about keeping nuclear weapons out of the hands of isis. today a special session will be held. and they will meet first thing

this morning. he will end the day with a press conference. >> thanks so much for all of that. a terrible story to tell everyone about. a gunman kills a state trooper in the line of duty. trooper chad dermyer was shot and killed. the 37-year-old former marine started talk to go a man who suddenly shot the trooper at point blank range. other troopers returned fire, killing the gunman. two civilians also hit, now recovering >> california becoming the first state in the nation to approve a statewide $15 minimum wage. it will be signed into law monday. wages will go up every year and hit $15 by 2022. >> speaking of wages and salaries, u.s. women's national

soccer team demanding equal pay. they filed a complaint claiming they are being discriminated against because they earn less than members of the u.s. men's team. up to 62% less. soccer federation officials say they will address the pay gap in upcoming contract talks. >> think of all the repercussions this could have. all demale athletes. i can't imagine the wnba is paid the same. >> here's the question. they are not walked as much. >> people watched the u.s. soccer team when they were champions. >> it seems like it is overdue. >> we told you about the battle between hillary clinton and bernie sanders. but first there's next week's showdown in wisconsin.

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hillary clinton lashing out at her democratic opponent while in new york. clinton saying she is sick of bernie sanders and his team lying about her. she has confidence she will lock up the party nomination by month's end. a senior spokesperson for -- and senior adviser for political outreach for hillary clinton in america. so let's talk about the very heated moment yesterday. we'll play the greenpeace activist. >> if you protect -- -- fossil fuel money in the future. >> i do not. i am so sick -- i am so sick of the sanders skpaeupb lying about that. i i am sick of it stphrfplt what's your response to that? she said the campaign is lying. >> let's be clear. so the accusation is she is

taking money from the industry. the truth is, we don't take pac money from oil and gas. we can't get money from -- we don't take money from corporations because corporations can't donate directly. she has taken money from individuals who work in the oil and gas industry but so has bernie sanders. is a quite a small percentage. the point she's making there, we don't go out and accuse him of being beholden of taking money from oil and gas simply because he takes money from individuals. her point was, let's talk it. stop the distortions. let's be on the same page. and let's be honest about if you're taking money from individuals, let's call it the same thing. >> hot off the press. i am just getting this as we're speaking now. senator sanders says i'm not crazy about people disrupting

meetings. but the fact of the party is secretary clinton has taken significant sums of money from the fossil fuel industry. she raises her money with a superpac and gets a lot of money from wall street from the drug company, from the fossil fuel industry. on the other hand, we have received over 6 million individual campaign contributions averaging $27 apiece. i am proud of the way we are raising money. the clinton camp celebrates individual donations too, sruasu know. and wisconsin is next. we have twice as many individual donations. >> you surely did not hear him acknowledge that he too takes money from individuals who work in oil is and gas, in those industries. so, again, the point here is let's be fair. if you're going to say that -- if you're going to criticize us from taking money from the individuals, then you should be fair and honest with people about the fact that you too take money from those individuals. here's the other point.

a number of times in this campaign we have seen -- he has taken to task fort '90s, the prime bill, right. she didn't go for it. she didn't have a vote. he voted for it. >> 14th did support it. >> she didn't vote for it. it distorts the fact -- this is part of why we are so glad to be campaigning in new york. her own record as a senator from new york, she worked on issues. she worked on criminal justice reform. she oppose drilling arctic. >> but he also said he supported that bill. he did not like portions of the bill but he liked that it protected women and other parts of the bill he thought was important. he didn't support the crime bill as far as sending black men to jail. >> as he pointed out in that piece of legislation, there's sometimes things you like and sometimes things you don't like.

why is it, for example, he didn't support immigration reform. it's a big issue here in new york. he voted numerous times to protect gun manufacturers from liability. there are people hrrb like from auro aurora, colorado, trying to sue manufacturers who are sometimes blocked from doing so. >> your point is taken. that will be brought up in two weeks when it happens here and in new york. wisconsin is closer. it's in the windshield coming up now. >> sure. >> 48%, sanders. 43% clinton. most people say she should be winning in wisconsin. have you given up on wisconsin? >> no. president clinton is going to wisconsin. hillary is going to wisconsin. we feel good about ground game

in wisconsin. we certainly expect it is going to be close. number one, senator sanders more than 50% of the delegates, the pledge delegates not just in wisconsin, new york, california, new jersey. so that's part of why we feel good about where we are. >> why is it so tight? why are the margins so tight? even where she was senator. she has a 10-point lead. that's not a huge lead. >> but that's pretty common that things tighten the closer that we get when you're talking about these competitive primaries. so it's not surprising. and, again, if you look at the numbers, even -- he talks about superdelegates. even if all the superdelegates were from the states that he has won were to support him, he still wouldn't -- the numbers wouldn't be this. >> i have to run. i would be remiss if i didn't

ask you on the comments about abortion from donald trump. hillary clinton says she believes this is how the entire republican party feels about abortion, they want to punish women. and pro live people will say that is not true. we don't want to. >> that's not quite what she said. her point was while donald trump may use very bombastic rhetoric, in terms of their position when it comes to shutting down planned parenthood or funding or protecting women's rights to make our own decisions, that they are all in the same place. when you look at what kasich is talking about, ted cruz is talking about, they're in the same place. one may use more outrage, ridiculous dangerous rhetoric. but if you look at the policy ideas the others are promoting, they're in the same place. >> that's not the same party. >> they were certainly considering shutting down

planned parenthood. >> thank you. >> thanks. donald trump is weathering a rough week. his campaign manager charged with battery. trump flip-flopping on abortion. hosni of this had an effect on the republican front-runner? that's next here on "new day". you do all this research on a perfect car then smash it into a tree. your insurance company raises your rates. maybe you should have done more research on them. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. just one of the many features that comes standard with our base policy. call

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chicago teachers are promising to shut down the entire city school system today. they are planning a full day of teach-ins and rallies over the death of education. they are been working without a contract since last summer. it is facing a $1.1 billion budget deficit. >> sarah palin's husband out of the hospital. he landed in the icu after getting into a serious snow mobile crash. on thursday, his wife, the 2008 republican took to facebook to update supporters. palin says todd is in a good place and passing the time watching march madness. >> okay. severe storms packing isolated

tornadoes in the southeast today. alabama, louisiana, mississippi, reeling from tornado touchdowns on thursday. a teenager was killed when he flipped on the way to school. >> all right. well, the fallout continues over controversial statements on abortion. rival john kasich with his positive tone to criticize trump. >> as commander in chief and leader of the free world, you don't get do-overs. you need to be able to get it right the first time. >> all right. let's bring in our political commentators to talk about this. margaret hoover and jeffrey lord. great to have both of you here. >> thank you, ali. >> great to have you, jeffrey.

margaret, let's start here. fair to say it's been a challenging week. corey lewandowski charged with misdemeanor battery. and women should be punished for abortion. nuclear proliferation. maybe south korea, japan should get nuclear weapons. will this have an effect on the upcoming races in. >> yeah. it will have an effect on wisconsin. and how much effect does it have in terms of blocking the delegate count in order to get over the 1237 which he has a chance of not getting to. here's a deep read on the numbers. trump's numbers have plateaued. as we know, supporters like him. there is little you can do to dissuade him. this, a, energizes everybody else. conservative voters like ted cruz are even more energized over this, especially the

abortion flip-flop. it is around 30%, 35%. only two others are competing for the rest of the vote. that will help ted cruz and john kasich. >> jeffrey, i heard you say on this program, you believe donald trump made a mistake in his response to chris matthews about abortion. i don't know if you believe he has had a rough couple of weeks. certainly he has not indicated as such at all. he has not said he's sorry or apologized. he said maybe a miss spake. but then said msnbc edited the video. they said no, we ran it in his entirety. does he think he has had a bad week and needs to rejig his

campaign. >> he his spoke on the abortion issue. he corrected himself. >> you said mistake yesterday. >> exactly. sure. he corrected himself very quickly. candidates in both parties have bad moments. campaigns move along here. i would rather have a misspeak on abortion as opposed to hillary clinton having to have a personal sitdown with the fbi director. >> is that a misspeak and a mistake? >> that is a pretty big issue. always an issue when it comes to presidential campaigns. if someone is running for the presidency of the united states, shouldn't they have their act together at least when it comes to the language for pro life or pro-choice? >> i said this the other night. donald trump does not come from a political background.

he doesn't speak the language of the political class. >> what does that mean he doesn't come from a political class? that has nothing to do with -- >> yes, it does. it does, don. he doesn't know all the buzz or words. for instance, let me give you an example. senator cruz was in iowa a year ago. and i had seen this on c-span. he was asked essentially the same question that donald trump was asked on abortion. he refused to answer it. he just said i'm pro life. he stuck with that. he just answered the question. >> he made the point. >> i hear you, jeffrey. i'm going to give you this. one of the things republicans need to take away from the trump disaster is we don't talk to people the way people hear politics. donald trump simplified how you speak to people. people not in politics understand what he's saying.

he has shown no capacity to learn on the trail. this is evident of this. and to continue to say, the flap over the iraq war. he hasn't ended up internalizing the campaign trail and dental stating that he can become a serious candidate. >> policy is not buzz words. even if you don't know the correct language you should at least know the policy. >> don, i'll aim -- and margaret in particular. i know this irritates even. ronald reagan was about message. he got exactly this kind of criticism. he didn't know the details of policy. that was a criticism made not just when he was a candidate but

president. >> you and i know there is a huge difference between two-game governor in california and donald trump. >> hold on, guys i want to talk about an interesting paradox we are seeing with the numbers. donald trump is popular with voters. he continues to win. he is the front-runner. yet when he poll people as we have he has the highest unfavorables of any candidate. he has 67%. ted cruz, 54%. "washington post" says trust is the least popular politician, or if he becomes the nominee in their 32 years of the survey. how does that work, jeffrey? >> ali, what happens is every single time when you get down to a fall election and the choice is between candidate a and candidate b, the election always

looks different. by then, both have negatives. if this becomes an election between donald trump is and hillary clinton, i guarantee you hillary clinton's negatives which are pretty high right now, will be even higher. the choice will be between donald trump and hillary clinton. people will have to go there. i don't worry about that kind of thing at all. this kind of thing always happens. >> the question is who is more unfavorable amongst the people they need to win. as jeffrey is and i and all of us know, if you're a republican you have to get all the people mitt romney got, more hispanics, more african-american and more male white voters. >> okay. guys, it is april fool's day, as you both know. and ted cruz has just tweeted this morning, happy to hear donald trump accepted my

challenge to debate one on one. >> i saw that. >> you saw it, jeffrey? >> really well done. >> then he has a link to this video. enjoy. >> i would like to invite donald right now to engage in a one on one debate with me any time. >> we have had 11 debates. according to the polls, i have won every single one. >> we're going to go on forever with these debates. ♪ >> rick astley. >> i can't believe ted cruz is rig rolling us. >>. ♪ never going to let you down >> april fool's day, everybody. >> it's particularly great because we feel that phil mattingly is a dead ringer.

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[ intense music throughout ] [ fans cheering ] introducing the x1 sports app. get live stats, averages, and standings. right on your tv. change the way you experience tv, with xfinity x1. the fbi agreed to help arkansas prosecutors unlock an iphone and ipod that may contain key evidence in a murder case after the agency managed to hack an iphone of one of the san

bernardino terrorists without the help of apple. cnn national security analyst worked at the department of justice and homeland security. first of all, i think we know what some were concerned about, the slippery slope of allowing access to these iphones. this is a very different story. this is not terror. this is a murder case. a couple was murdered. four suspects, teenagers. one of them i think is their grands grandson. not a terror case. why is the fbi getting involved in this one? >> that's a big question for those concerned about whether the fbi is now on a terror to go afteren crypted devices. we call this the dead-beat dad problem. in a terrorism case, people might feel comfortable the government having more authorities to get into an en crypted phone. a murder case, that's okay. we don't like murder.

we want to help the government. the next is a dead-beat dad case. it has less significance. i'm not saying murder is okay. it's just different in terms of its public impact than a terrorism case like san bernardino. >> you talk about the sliding scale. and i think others have looked at this as being a slippery slope. then it comes back to folks like any of us that have iphones. we think, wait, does that mean they can just subpoena or ask for or ask or simply crack into my iphone? >> that's the great question. what's so unclear at this stage is why this police department didn't actually go to apple, which happens in dozens and dozens of cases and seek some help from apple to get into -- >> cooperation, right? >> what people forget about the apple/fbi fight of san

bernardino, it hid the fact that there are hundreds of cases in which the government is going to these service providers saying we need to get into this phone. they are saying you have the court authority. we want to help you. the fbi actually asked apple to create a new technology to get into the phone. >> instead of just asking for the information from that phone, they were asking for the key to the phone. that was the concern apple had. they were saying, look, it will just -- >> exactly. >> just because the good guys have it, the vulnerability is there for the bad guys to have it. here's the question then. is there a scenario where apple could get an order from the fbi to show their methodology of how they got access? >> i think it would be a very hard case for apple to win. they can certainly bring it. saying it undermines their business focus which is to give

people iphones the government or anyone else can't get into. it would be a very difficult case. what you are more likely to see, in particular any of these other cases, is that the person whose phone is taken who is a defendant will then in the courtroom say, hey, fbi, show me how you opened my phone. so the fbi does not want a lot of these cases to go before open court n. discovery, they are going to have to say how we got into this phone. in some ways, san bernardino was an outlier. the more the fbi tries to do this in more traditional criminal cases, they're going to have to put up. they're not going to want to do that. this may be a unique case and the one the fbi will not want to utilize very often. >> it will be very interesting. we will watch this as an indication of what potentially could come.

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donald trump's campaign manager corey lewendowski making headlines for allegedly grabs and bruising a reporter's arm

even though video substantiates her story. joining us from atlanta to reveal what was found. >> reporter: good morning. a somewhat remarkable story. corey lewendowski, here he is, trumps continued troubles, because of those troubles, these two guys, perhaps, are sticking together. the candidate may be a novice to politics. >> good job, corey. >> reporter: but donald trump's campaign manager is what some call a longtime political cooperative who stays on message. his message, stick to the trump script. >> first thing, build a wall. >> reporter: lewendowski, just 42 years old has been around politics, controversy and

arrests his entire political life including one of the biggest political scandals of the new century involving jack abramoff who went to prison admitting how he bought politicians and an administration official with bribes, freebies and favors. one he bribed, congressman bob nay of ohio. corey lewendowski previously his right-hand man. he cut his political teeth in the office of the ohio republican, and when congressman nay was to be sentenced to prison, corey lewin bousendowsk this letter calling the convicted congressman a surrogate father. during this time lewendowski had his first brush with the law. august of 1999 the then congressional staffer was heading to work at the longworth house office building on capitol hill. that's when police found a

loaded pistol, three pistol magazines, ammunition and a holster in his overnight bag. he was arrested for carrying a gun without a license. the charge, quickly dropped. lewendowski sued the federal government, trying to get his own gun back but lost and appealed. lewendowski never got the gun back. in 2001, he joined up to run the re-election campaign of another republican politician. u.s. senator bob smith of new hampshire. smith, a sitting senator, was in a et whoheated republican primah sn sunu sununu. eventually he worked more into politics lou lobby i s lobbying. last eight years worked for the

political action group, a conservative pac founded by one of the koch brothers. the story goes, didn't tell his wife he was joining the trump campaign. went down and convinced trump no one was going to work harder and he got that job. >> let's back up a little bit. it san odd coupling. right? teaming up for this campaign. he was really, as you've been showing a low-level political insider from new hampshire. and a political billionaire outsider from new york. he just went to him and said i want to work for you? >> reporter: a chance meeting. april 2014, more than a year before trump even jumps into the race. they met backstage at a new hampshire event, and they hit it off. kindred spirits. two very, very high-energy guys. lewendowski's a red bull chugging hard charger and they felt they could be pals and developed this friendship, very odd, that these two people from these two different social and

economic backgrounds would come together, but that's how they hit it off and trump put all his faith in him. >> from the past couple of months, a strong bond. donald trump has no plans to fire lewendowski and has gone out of his way to defend him and blamed the reporter for much of what happened. will it be a distraction for the campaign and maybe even too much of a burden for the trump campaign to sustain? >> the trump campaign is moving so quickly, look how fast this bruising incident dropped out of the headlines. one day, one interview on msnbc and we're not talking about lewendowski anymore. a lot will depend, don, what happens in may when lewendowski goes to court and the judge either takes a look at this charge and throws it out or it becomes an actual criminal case that keeps moving forward. we'll see. as you said, these two guys are sticking together. trump especially saying i'm sticking with this guy.

>> we haven't heard from lewendows lewendowski? >> reporter: no. keeping him out of the way. made a couple statements that didn't go so well. a back scenes guy, keep trump on the move, moving through reporters, he's famously doing, but we have not heard from him. >> drew griffin, thank you. we're following a lot of news. let's get right to it. donald trump meets with the rnc behind closed doors in d.c. >> actually a terrific meeting, i think and really a unity meeting. >> trump doing damage control. >> this was a long discussion and they just cut it off. >> donaldal comments, if they were wrong -- >> you don't get do-overs. >> i am so sick of the sanders campaign lying about me. >> enough is enough! >> we've got to unite. >> we are going to make it to the white house. >> i heard a, honk, honk, horch -- crash. >> we just grabbed on to the side of the ship. >> just slammed up against there. my head.

my arms. [ whistle blowing ] >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. >> good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day," it is friday, april 1st. 8:00. >> it is april 1st. that we know. >> it's 8:00 and chris is off this morning. don lemon has been joining us all week. >> one hour, and then my night job. >> that, too. >> double duty. >> yeah. >> up first, donald trump trying to make peace with his fractured party, the republican front-runner, meeting behind closed doors in washington, this as the campaign deals with incendiary comments about abortion and nuclear security. >> the gop front-runner says his powwow with the rnc unity was terrific, but critics are questioning his fitness to lead. polling show trump trailing ted cruz by double digits with that crucial primary four days away.

the race is covered only the way we can do here at cnn and begin with phil mattingly live from hershey, pennsylvania. hello, phil. >> reporter: hey there, don. donald trump is stepping off the campaign trail yesterday. probably couldn't have come at more opportune time in the wake of a wild week. one of the more dangerous weeks trump found himself in over the course ofs had campaign. he had private meetings, you mentioned, with the rnc and important technical reasons for that meeting. everybody trying to figure how to get the requisite delegate to secure that nomination. also a broader point at that meeting according to sources familiar with it. trying to figure out a way to mend bridges and even unify the party. donald trump, now trying to make nice with party leaders amid fallout from yet another political firestorm. republican front-runner in washington for a meeting with the chairman of the republican national committee reince

priebus. behind closed doors sources say discussion focused on delicate rules ahead of the convention. just days after trump and the other gop hopefuls backed out of their pledge to support the nominee. >> the very good meeting. we met with reince priebus and the staff and they're very good people. very actually a terrific meeting, i think. and it's really a unity meeting. >> reporter: trump also huddling with foreign policy advisers at the site of his new hotel for a two-hour private meeting as hi comments on nuclear proliferation continue to rile american allies. >> you said in japan, fine, you get nuclear weapons, korea, you as well and -- >> can i be honest? going to happen anyway. >> reporter: uncharacteristically quiet. one day after abortion comments and his campaign on the defensive. >> do you believe in punishment for abortion, as a principle, yes or no? >> the answer is, there has to be some form of punishment? >> for the woman? >> yeah.

there has to be some form. >> reporter: claiming forcefully he's not qualified for the oval office. >> i have to tell you that as commander in chief, and leader of the free world, you don't get do-overs. >> reporter: ohio governor john kasich unleashing a pointed and pacific attack on the front-runner. >> the abortion controversy using nukes in the middle east and europe. get rid of the geneva convention, getting rid of nato having a supreme court justice who will investigate hillary's e-mails. i don't even know what he's talking about there. >> reporter: ted cruz sending out his wife heidi and carly fiorina attempting to underscore trump's continued difficulty with women voters. obviously the campaign has been particularly nasty on the republican side over the last couple weeks, guys, but it looks like april fool's is able to bring out levity, if you will. one of the more dangerous days for reporters around the country, no question about it. ted cruz tweeting that his

long-running challenge to donald trump to have a one-on-one debate accepted. i might be wrong, video included seems to be directly targeted at you. >> hmm. what? let's see it. >> -- invite donald right now to engage in a one-on-one debate with me anytime. >> we've had 11 debates. according to the polls, i've won every gel debate is. >> we're going on frov forever with these debates. >> it's so good! or is it targeted at you, phil? >> mattingly? >> you know, i -- new to this show. but ever since i've been here, they have been telling me how much -- >> twinsies. >> you guys look alike. >> come on. >> oh, my -- >> and here's the thing. he has been good humored about this, but is it true that you have colleagues from past lives

reaching out? you feel like you're never going to live this down. wait, i said this, yes. >> reporter: it's never going away. this is, how donald trump tagged opponents over the course of his campaign. i have now been taged by you guys and people on campaigns, at the white house, people at former places of employment. now do not let me live this down. so thank you for that. i am honored. fantastic. >> we're never going to give you up or let you down. ♪ we're going to turn around >> thanks so much for being a good sport. >> i still say he looks like robin. we'll have to get that up, from batman and robin, true. more politics. >> please. >> talk about it now, ted cruz surrogate and national co-chair for the group women for kruse, rebecca hegalin is here to discuss his strategy going into new hampshire. thank you for joining us.

how confident is the campaign about heading into next week? does he think that, you know, he can win wisconsin? and, of course, that's a big game changer? >> oh, well, absolutely he can win wisconsin. and largely it's because ted cruz has a message that america is ready for. ted cruz is the candidate that we in the republican party that are conservatives have been looking for since ronald reagan, and his message about jobs, freedom, and security is resonating across the great state of wisconsin. it's resonating across america, and i will have to say, two days ago we did this wonderful event in madison, wisconsin. >> i want to talk to you -- let me set it up for you. >> yes. >> you moderated this event, right, rebecca? i did. >> in wisconsin on wednesday. and my question is, by moderating this event and you were talking to women, is the campaign trying to capitalize on the issues that donald trump is having with women, especially with abortion comments and other things, his misspeak on

abortion, or is this, you know, considering that 21% of republicans think abortion should be illegal, is this a losing strategy for republicans? >> oh, my goodness. first of all, the campaign for ted cruz does not have to capitalize on the whole women issue, because donald trump just intrinsically has a problem with women, because of the way he repeatedly treats women. it's part of his m.o. it's something he's carried with him his entire life. everything from starting the first strip club at a casino in atlanta city to the derogatory comments he makes to standing up for a bully, as his own campaign manager, against harming a woman. basically what we did in wisconsin was just further the message that women are suppo supporting ted cruz. that ted cruz' policies work for women, they work for america. the whole issues of jobs, freedom and security. i mean, right now, what a lot of

women are facing, and a lot of americans, indeed, is this big, dark cloud as we head into spring called the irs, and just a couple of weeks we'll have go through those onerous forms, moms are scrambling in their homes right now trying to find the paperwork. >> tell us -- yes. tell us about -- >> and ted cruz has this wonderful -- let me just finish. ted cruz has this fabulous 10% tax rate across the board that is going to free the american family from the onerous regulations of the irs. >> i get that you're saying. >> fill it out on a postcard. >> we get that, and if he does become president. stick to wisconsin, right? put the polls back up. >> sure. >> he does have a pretty good lead. it is a 10% lead over donald trump. 10% lead. but we know the polls in the past have been wrong in many cases, especially if you look at the democratic side and what happened with bernie sanders and hillary clinton in michigan. you said that you're not

concerned going into this. you think that he can win. because, again, this could be a game changer. especially when it comes to the no trump or the stop trump movement. they are counting on wisconsin. >> well, it will be a game changer. and ted cruz is going to walk away with the republican nomination. of that, i am very certain. and it's going to happen, because we've won the hearts and minds of the voters, and here in wisconsin we don't take anything for granted. you know, you have to earn that vote every single day, and that's one thing i think that trump forget about. you've got to earn the hearts and minds and the trust of the american people, when you want to be the leader of the free world, and ted cruz is doing that. we see people coalescing behind him, the governor of this great state, the leaders of the pro life movement. it's just fabulous how people are realizing that ted cruz is the ronald reagan of the new

generation. >> one thing you should be concerned about, if we have this i would like the sound bite of ted cruz talking, some trying to push someone out of the race, because ted cruz has said that -- that john kasich should be our the race. here he is and then we'll talk about it. >> it's against the rules for john kasich to be on the ballot. the rules provide to be even on the ballot, if i don't one has 1,237 you have to have won at least eight states. only two candidates meet that threshold. donald trump and me. >> okay. so kasich would be stronger, hoe, as a general election candidate than ted cruz and again people may not take kindly to someone trying to push someone out of the race? >> well, ted cruz is not trying to push him our the race. as my dad used to say, them are the rules. and we find that donald trump doesn't like the rules of louisiana. he's talking about suing the gop in louisiana, because he doesn't like the roomules.

the rules are the rules and you go into a game knowing the rules and don't try to change them at the last minute. this is why we're confident that ted cruz is going to walk away with the nomination, but he's going to fight for and earn every single vote that he gets, and he's going to show america that, you know what? it's time for us to stand up to the establishment. it's time for us to take our country back, to take the constitution back. to secure the liberties that are guaranteed all americans in the bill of rights. nobody has more experience in doing that than ted cruz, who's argued successfully, cases before the supreme court on religious liberty. he's argued for gun rights, the second amendment, argued for parental rights. he's our man, big time. >> you know your business when it comes to ted cruz and we appreciate you joining us here on cnn. rebecca hagelin thank you. the battle for new york is getting intense as personal.

but wisconsin's primary is right around the corner and polls show the race there neck and neck. so cnn's senior washington correspondent joe johns is live with more for us. hi, joe. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. you know, as the race for new york heats up the bernie sanders campaign is claiming it had another huge month in fund-raising which just keeps him cruising along in the race for delegates. intentions are now running high on the democratic side as the race drags on. hillary clinton calling out bernie sanders at an event at the state university at new york at purchase and in turn found herself confronted by a small group of protestors if she wins, we lose, the former secretary of state not backing down asserting it was bernie people who came to say that, but it didn't stop there. on the rope line after the event a green peace activist asking her about taking money from the fossil fuel industry and the pointed angry response from the candidate, underscoring some frustration her campaign's been expressing.

listen. >> were you asked on your word fossil fuel money -- >> i did not -- i have money from people that work for fossil fuels, i am so sick -- i am so sick of the sanders campaign lying about this. sick of it. >> so the sanders campaign citing a green peace article that said mrs. clinton relied heavily on money from lobbyists from the oil and gas industry. big picture, this shows how high the stakes are in delegate-rich new york where both candidates have strong ties setting the stage for what could be a potentially raw and confrontational stretch in the campaign, new york's the biggest state left on the electoral map with the exception of california, add to that the tension of the perception that, with a big push in new york, the clinton campaign may be deemphasizing wisconsin and the primary there next tuesday where bernie sanders appears to hold a narrow advantage. michaela? >> so many interesting twists and turns. interesting to watch new york and what happens. thanks, joe. got to show you this video.

the moment a tour boat violently slams into the pier with people scattering. one elderly woman walking past just as the boat was about to make impact. >> reporter: you can hear the blaring horns sending bystanders fleeing for sifty, the only warning, seconds before this frightening crash. crew members say they just couldn't stop this 150-foot harbor cruise ship from plowing into a san diego pier thursday. the unexpected impact -- sending some of the nearly 150 people onboard flying. injuring seven passengers. >> just slammed up against there. my head, my arms and everything. hurt my back. >> some lady they took to the hospital fell and hit her head on the, on the deck and then sl slid. >> reporter: on land, tense moments as a man pulls an

elderly woman out of harm's way right before the three-deck ship collided with the dock. >> coming in faster than normal. >> reporter: crew members say they lost control after the ship's pro pulse shim malfunctioned. >> we heard the horn blower start honking its horn really loud and coming in way too fast and we knew right away it was going to hit. did they plan on going back out? i would not be on that boat. >> so horn blower operates these cruises all the time. run for 22 years, a well-respected kpp. shocking to see something like that happen. obviously the coast guard will investigate, exactly what went wrong, how they handled it. it's crazy. >> scared for the people onboard. >> nothing you can do, just watch it happen. >> right. all right. politics now. bernie sanders hoping a big win in wisconsin on tuesday will help put new york in play, but how realistic is that, really? especially considering the clintons have established so many deep ties in the big apple.

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. a tense moment on the campaign trail when hillary clinton shot back as a climate activist whether she accepts donations from the fossil fuel industry. watch this. >> climate change, on your word fossil fuel money in the future in your campaign. >> i do -- i have money from people that work for fossil fuels. i am so sick -- i am so sick of the sanders campaign lying about this. sick of it. >> okay. bring in bernie sanders' campaign manager jeff weaver to respond to this. good morning, jeff. >> good morning. how are you? >> doing well. i don't know if you could hear secretary clinton there, she said i am so sick of the sanders campaign lying about this. are you being dishonest whether or not she takes money from the fossil fuel industry? >> well, let's be clear, alisyn. the clinton campaign and its associated affiliated super pacs have taken millions of dollars from the banking industries, from fossil fuel industries, from the pharmaceutical

companies, from the private prison lobbyists and learned recently from lobbyists from the nra. they'll take money from anybody and are sensitive about the fact it's getting pointed out. >> two separate things. the pac which she does not coordinated with and can't by law -- [ laughter ] you're expressing skepticism? >> i mean, correct the record. her attack pac ads run by the character assassinator david brock openly coordinate and say they can. areas where they can and where they cannot. let me say this, the clinton campaign people, john podesta and others, the secretary hef, h herself her husband raised money for the super pac. >> and found clinton had not taken any money from pacs tied to the oil industry. employees, however, have contributed $307,000 to clinton's campaign. this is according to the center for responsive politics.

but bernie sanders has received $54,000. so does that lessen your argument when bernie sanders has also taken money from people connected to the fossil fuel industry? >> no. look, alisyn, someone who works on an oil rig in the gulf or works in a refinery and wants to give hillary clinton a check for her presidential campaign or bernie sanders or anybody else a check, that's not what's at issue here. the reporting ignores how washington really works. how it works, lobbyists for these companies, whether the gun companies or oil or drug companies or banks bundle tons and tons and tons of money, right? on behalf of their clients to give to candidates so they have influence with them after the election. that's how it really works. it's not a $2,700 pac check from exxon that the problem. it's a lobbyist from exxon bundling $100,000 or $200,000 or $300,000, giving it to the clinton campaign or the super

pac. these are the problems. these large sums of money bundled by lobbyists. >> but isn't this the same thing? he's taking money from individuals who work for the fossil fuel industry. she's taking money from individuals who work for the fossil fuel industry. according to fact check dot org, not taking it from companies themselves. isn't this is a level playing field against these two? >> no. ignores the way washington really works. power of the lobbying community in washington. if you have a lobbyist for a big oil company bundling hundreds of thousands are dollars, which will not be represented in the report you were talking about. when that happens, the day after the election that lobbyist will be knocking on the white house door. remember me? i bundled $100,000, $200,000 for you and would like to talk about item x. y or z on the agenda. that's what goes on in august. >> you're saying she would be beholden to the fossil fuel industry, though theres no evidence that has happened?

>> not a question of being beholdened. the truth, she's sn all of above candidate. actively advocated for fracking overseas as secretary of state. has not ruled out banning, not supported banning fracking here in the united states. her position on offshore drilling has been inconsistent at best having voted at times for offshore drilling. look, i think the case is, that they recognize that hillary clinton will be friendly to them when in the white house. it's not about being beholden. she already has positions they like. >> sounds like the hillary clinton campaign is believing the primary will be wrapped up by april 19th or the day after, when the new york primary is. do you agree with that schedule? >> absolutely not. the clinton campaign will be wrapped up in february, they said, then march. now saying in april. look, new york is a big test in this contest. obviously a lot of energy and effort put in by both campaigns in terms of resources and candidates' time, but the truth

of the mat sir that the clinton campaign has to have a big win in new york. bernie sanders won vermont, his home state by 86%. the clinton campaign needs to win and win convincingly to convince people that this campaign is over. time and time ago they've called us out, alisyn. we're not out, obviously. a huge grass roots fund-raising $44 million last month. people are standing with bernie sanders because he'd standing with them. we'll go into new york, compete do well. is it a must-win? it's not. but we'll do well and the clinton campaign has to didn't extremely well, quite frankly. >> what would a big, extremely well win look like? >> a six in front of the number for her to be a convincing win on her part. >> okay. how does the schedule look for you moving forward? where arewill you win? >> wisconsin, the senator is spending a lot of time in wisconsin. some polls show him up slightly.

a tough fight there obviously but we'll do very well in wisconsin and i think we'll do well in new york and in wyoming, and go into pennsylvania, delaware and maryland and connecticut and i think we'll do well there taking us all the way to june 7th when california, new jersey and other states vote and going all the way to the defense, as the senator has said. >> there you go. jeff weaver, thanks so much for being on "new day." >> thanks. happy to be here, always. donald trump's decision to back off the loyalty pledge to support the eventual nominee could cost him in south carolina. the price trump may pay for breaking that pledge and what it could mean come convention time. don't let dust and allergies get between you and life's beautiful moments. with flonase allergy relief, they wont. most allergy pills only control one inflammatory substance.

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donald trump breaking his loyalty pledge to support the republican party nominee. as a result, his hold and south carolina's 50 delegates could be in jeopardy. the state required candidates to sign and oath promising loyalty to the potential nominee. could it cost him these delegates? let's discuss this. and you can edge kate ucate us.

ensuring slot on the primary ballot. trump won the state's delegate in february in the primary. anti-trump forces plotting to contest their binding to trump because of the threat of a pledge on tuesday. you're saying just because he said, i'm not going to support the eventual nominee, that he is in breach of this agreement? >> well, good morning, don. what i did say, is these are hypothetical questions and answers. and many unknowns. right now no one is trying to unbind any delegates in south carolina. what is known is that the best way to be the nominee of the party, get a majority of delegates before the convention making all of this media frenzy a moot point. >> okay. let's take a look at the moment when he changed his position on supporting the gop nominee.

okay. so -- yeah. so he said -- he says that, in a town hall with cnn, then this is what he said -- i generally believe in and intend to support the nominees and platform of the republican party in the november 8, 2016 general election. my question is, it will make the point moot. do you think this is a legally binding contract? if it happened here -- he signed that in other states as well. does he have a problem in other states if this indeed becomes something that is a legal problem for him? >> well, that's the big question. this is a process, and this process leads to national convention. i personally am not the person that could educate that kind of question. i think it would have to go to possibly the national convention contests committee bottom way, best way to the nominee, win the most delegates. we're in the process, committed to honesty, fairness and

transparency. this was explained to americans, explain that sometimes games can not be sold on the field and overtime is necessary and in that overtime the rules may change a little bit. but the bottom line is we'll emerge at the party's convention in july as the nominee and get behind that nominee. >> you did tell "time" magazine breaking the presidential ballot pledge raises some unanswered legal questions that no one person can answer. however, you said, a court of national convention committee on contests could resolve them. it could put delegates in dep y deputy. are you saying you're not the best person to do it but, telling "time" magazine, yeah, resolved possibly through some sort of legal process? >> there are a lot of unknowns in this process, again. what is known, a process that yesterday donald trump an reince priebus met in washington, d.c. to discuss an open convention, how fair the party's going to be in this process and what it means to have the convention. people have experience with this

over the past 40 or so years. this is is a process no one person's involved with. this is a grass roots process of delegates and possibly convention committees who will decide these things. >> talk about that meeting you just mentioned. met with rnc chairman reince priebus. it went well, confirming through a statement. what about that meeting? standard operating procedure or more to this meeting than the rnc is letting on to? >> first of all, i was not there and cannot speak for either side in this meeting. preparations for the national convention are under way, i can say. the processes that lead to that convention are under way, and they, i'm sure, were discussing things as simple as hotel rar t arrangements and committee room arrangements in cleveland this summer. a lot of loose ends to begin discussions on heading into this process. we will not know until june 7th what eventually will happen. the best and easiest way to be the nominee, win elections between now and then.

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okay. time for cnn "money now." the labor department releasing the jobs report for march. chief business correspondent christine romans is here with the breaking news. >> hi there, alisyn. another strong month of hiring. just got these numbers. show you what it looks like. 215,000 net new jobs and a couple revision. a strong end to the year and beginning of this year. where we stand for job creation. stronger than expected on job creation. unemployment, jobless rate ticked up a tiny bit to 5%. by did it tick up? is that a bad sign? no. a sign more people are coming into the labor market. perhaps encouraged by the strong hiring of the past few moss, they are coming into the labor

market trying to get a job. 5% there. the labor force participation rate came up. what is that? sounds wonky, nerdy. this is the number you hear on the campaign trail, hearing millions of americans elbowed out of the job market. unemployment is worse than we think. things are getting better. people are starting to come back into the labor market. what that tells us. look at the sectors quickly to see where the hiring has been. construction. these tend to are higher paid jobs and also health, in the health market. retail, health care. manufacturing. another loss there. again, that is a hot topic on the campaign trail, because manufacturing jobs are those solid, good middle-class paying jobs. another month of losses there. let me show you overall job growth here. now, the average for this year is about 209,000 jobs a month. that is solid jobs growth, but, you guys, this vort like a rorshach test now on the campaign trail. right? you look at the pages of numbers. republicans see the weaknesses

and try to say the economy is not working well for everyone. democrats will try to say, look, we're moving in the right direction. >> why we like having you here to break it all down for us, christine. thanks so much. you'll continue to crunch through the numbers today for us. turn to the five things on this friday. donald trump and gop leaders holding an unannounced unity meeting in washington, trying to calm comments about abortion and nuclear security. the democratic duo, 247 delegates already fierce. hillary clinton lashing out, sick of the sanders campaign lying about her, and first up, the wisconsin primary tuesday. virginia state trooper chad dermyer shot and killed in the line of duty at a bus station in virginia. others shot the gunman who later died at the hop two civilians suffered non-life threatening wounds. and terrorism brainstorming,

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our next guest has a unique perspective on donald trump since he was once trump's boss. ran universal more than 20 years including during the time when the donald was firing people on the apprentice. today, autism speaks leads the challenge in autism awareness. his first grandchild was diagnosed with off the iminwith

he joins us. >> a pleasure to be here. >> talk about when you were donald trump's boss. what is the -- who is the real donald trump? what can you tell us about having worked with him so closely? >> well, it actually goes back 30 years, because when i first came to nbc, he was trying to get to nbc to move to studio city, which was this -- he was going to build a tower, 102-story tower over on the west side where the apartments are today, and he wanted to convince me and others, this is the place to go. the prime tenant, get on the top floors and all this, and that -- we had a six-month negotiation on that. >> he loves negotiating, you say? >> yes. and he's good at it, but he's -- the thing about donald, he's very transparent. people don't realize -- when i say that, he basically says what

he means, and he means what he says, and he doesn't -- he doesn't coat himself in some kind of a protection shield and he's not three donalds, really. >> no pretense? >> no. really no pretense whatsoever. when thing i've noticed about him, he always does -- he does have advisers and does seek thought if he doesn't have enough material. so we did this negotiation for a long time. i eventually didn't go there. i did a better deal, stayed at 30 rock. we had another situation later on when he called me and said i want to, i own half of the miss universe and cbs owns half of it. it's not working out. i don't think they want to be there. why don't you buy the other half. and so we had a long conversation. i said, you really interested in this? absolutely. he said i could make this better than it is. >> vintage trump, sounds like. >> the long story is that i said, okay. we'll do it, and we named a price and i said i'm not going

to call up les moonves it will be twice as much if i call up. if you want me to do it you have to get that price from les. >> wow. yeah. >> two weeks later called me up, said, i have that price. >> there you go. that's his strong suit. >> we did it. into it shortly and calls me says, your people, they're no good. this isn't working out at all. you take over, full executive thing. the right to hire and fire. thank you. pulled it in. ratings that first year were stupendous. much -- it was -- >> trump-ward. >> 40% 50% higher than in years. he delivered. >> talk about your book "the right stuff." you've had quite a life and chronicle it here. great successes, and some heartbreaking moments, particularly when your first grandchild, christian, was diagnosed with autism. you write very vividly about what a scary time that was. >> we were totally caught off

guard. had no idea what autism was and certainly had no idea how it puts somebody in a dark corner. meaning, that you don't have insurance, you don't have a method to deal with them, you don't have proven drugs or technologies, and you get isolated quickly. and we went around the country and we saw this happening and we thought we'd try to do something about it and got involved with bernie marcus, who called, said i've been in this a long time. i really want to help you. so based on bernie marcus who came up with a lot of financial support we started in 2004 to put autism speaks together and we found three family organizations and we thought were the best in the country, and my "we" is other businessmen like myself who joined me in this effort. some having autism in their family and a couple not. li like phil guy president for years and mark

carmisan and people like that, and we set out to make it a business. day one, audited financials, register in every state to raise money and to have offices and to do walks. >> yeah. >> and we did it all and -- >> just tackled it the way you did all of your businesses. i want to ask about what's happening with autism today, because the new numbers are out. 1 in 68 children is diagnosed with autism. that number is staggeringly different than a generation ago, 1 in 10,000 and i couldn't help but notice your wording in the book when you talked about christian, the timing of christian's autism. you say, right after he got the standard one-year vaccinations he developed a very high fever and screamed for hours. katie, your daughter, was so frightened she called her husband to come home from work and they put the baby in an ice bath to bring down the fever. when they calmed the doctor they were told the reaction was completely normal. i can't tell you how many parents, dozens, i have interviewed who had the exact

same experience did you. after the children got their standard vaccinations, that night the child had a high fever, were clearly in distress, screaming in mort's pain. called the doctor, you're having a vaccine reaction. i know this is very controversial. are you satisfied that enough research and sud studies have been done to prove there is no link? >> i'm satisfied to date from what has been done, that we can't establish directly that link. and -- but it's -- you know, as we get smarter and we're able to do better research, it's very difficult to do reverch on vaccines when you're talking about vaccines that go to tens of millions of people because you need a large sample to make con clupgss about something like this and that's part of the difficulty. i would also say that, that you -- that we all know without any controversy that a lot of children have very different reactions to vaccines, period.

>> yes. >> all vaccines essentially are the same, of the same type of vaccine, and the children are all different, and they have different immune systems. so their responses are going to be like this and pediatricians are too quick to say, oh, you fall in a normal category. well, in a normal category is like this wide, and that's where vaccine safety comes in, and that's an area i did spend a lot of time in trying to understand the cdc's vaccine safety program. i can tell you conclusively in that one, that program can be significantly improved for very little money and we tried, and i tried with two administrations, the bush administration, obama administration and failed to get it. got stopped in the white house in both cases. >> my gosh. >> that's probably one of the most disappointing things that i didn't get done. >> on a brighter note, literally, tell us about light it up blue? >> light it up blue, which is really the work of suzanne

wright, my wife of 48 years and my best friend and love for 50, this will be the eighth year of the world autism awareness day, celebrated at the u.n. it's a u.n. function and this afternoon, if she's able to, she'll be there. but we have, last year we had 15 -- 18,000 buildings lit up around the world, and we all chronicle -- have to send in pictures and everything. probably going to be closer to 20. she was at 143 countries last year, and going to add some more. what it is, they're showing -- they're being respectful to their own communities. >> yeah. >> of people with autism. >> so striking to see all the buildings lit up so beautifully. bob wright -- >> seven of the tallest buildings in the world. >> great pictures and a great message. thanks so much for being on "new day." great to have you here. >> certainly a great message in the book. this sunday, 10:00 p.m. on cnn "the wonder list" bill weir

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two illinois officers hailed as heroes for saving a little girl's life. we have more. >> reporter: it was a thursday night in the chicago suburb of schomburg, illinois, when the call came in. >> 911. what's your emergency? >> reporter: a good samaritan notice add frantic woman parked on the side of the road. >> a child in distress. >> reporter: this 18-year-old was having a seizure, struggling to breathe according to her grandmother. >> is the child breathing or coughing at all? >> the baby's not -- coughing.

she's not breathing. >> reporter: the officer's dashcam video picked up the rest. >> i just bolted out of my car and ran towards her and picked her up. >> reporter: his partner kevin o'connor right behind him. >> my heart was bounding so hard i could feel it hitting my bullet-proof vest. >> reporter: both officers were able to put panic aside. >> i looked at her and said, dear god, this does look good. this is bad. and i basically grabbed her and was franically trying to bring her back and revive her. miraculously the lord just gave her life again. >> reporter: she started breathing again, and whisked away by paramedics. the parents said she suffered a seizure, now home and doing better. >> out of my 21 years probably the most tear firing events i've had to experience. >> reporter: both officers will tell you that what happened on this very spot really did hit close to home. you see, they each have daughters of their own. >> this girl was not that much

younger than mine, and that's what went through my mind. that day. >> i think that the hat we put on at that moment was the hat of a dad. >> reporter: whether you call them officers or dads, the grateful family says they'll be calling them something else from now on. their heroes. it seems to be catching on. >> very modest, but he's my hero. [ laughter ] >> well, kevin's my hero, too. >> reporter: for cnn, schomburg, illinois. >> so great. >> what a great story! sometime now for "newsroom" with carol costello. >> happy friday. >> hi, happy -- >> april fool's! >> yeah. just so it's still friday, i don't care if it's an april fool's joke. >> right? >> have a great weekend. "newsroom," starts now. happening now in the "newsroom" -- dnd surprise meeting with gop les.