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that does it for us. thanks for watching. "cnn newsroom" starts now. great to have you with us wherever you are around the world. you're watching "cnn newsroom" live from los angeles. i'm john vause. >> and i'm isha sesay. a big hour ahead. u.s. politics. donald trump and bernie sanders campaigning into the night just a block away from each other. >> hillary clinton, ted cruz, john kasich also trying to secure last-minute votes ahead of tuesday's all-important wisconsin primary. a look at the republican ground game and why ted cruz has an edge. also, does donald trump have some dirt on roger ailes and fox news? >> and later this hour, dozens of isis suspects on the run across europe, some with direct links to the attacks in brussels
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and paris. also this hour, a game for the ages. we are courtside with the winners as college basketball crowns a national champion. the game was a heart stopper. >> it certainly was. all right. all that to come. but we begin on the campaign trail, where donald trump is not used to being the underdog. he's rallying voters in milwaukee as wisconsin prepares for its presidential primaries on tuesday. >> the latest marquette university law school poll shows ted cruz with a ten-point lead but trump says don't count him out. >> we're winning by almost 300 delegates so, we're doing great. and i think we close it out before the -- you know, before the convention. i think we actually close it out before the convention. that's like a prize fighter. you know, they go into unfriendly territory, the champ, he goes in and they say what do you think, you might have an unfriendly decision? he says no, when you knock them out there's no unfriendly
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decisions. >> well, on the democratic side of things bernie sanders holds a slim four-point lead over hillary clinton. in that same marquette poll. she campaigned monday in new york, which holds its primary on april 19th. sanders is counting on momentum to deliver a win in wisconsin. >> we have won 6 out of the last 7 caucuses and primaries. [ cheers and applause ] and not only have we won them, we have won every one by landslide victories. >> all right. well, so here's the thing. wisconsin is not considered to be a must-win state for donald trump. but a loss there could shift momentum in ted cruz's favor. cnn's sara murray reports. >> reporter: donald trump spent his last few hours before the wisconsin primary barnstorming the state. he held three campaign events
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here on monday and coming off of a rocky week for trump it was back to basics. he aimed his fire at his republican rivals, hitting ted cruz hard throughout the day and even hitting john kasich, saying it's time for kasich to step aside and bow out of the race. trump got a little bit of added reinforcement on the campaign trail. his wife melania trump joined him in milwaukee, and as trump struggles in the eyes of women voters, she said anyone who hits her husband can expect to be hit back ten times harder but promised that trump would treat men and women equally. sara murray, cnn, milwaukee, wisconsin. >> okay. i think it's been about a week since we've had a presidential debate. so the good news is the democrats, hillary clinton, bernie sanders, they've agreed to another debate. it will be right here on cnn april 14th in brooklyn, new york. that's five days ahead of the state's primary. but right now the focus is on wisconsin. that's coming down to the wire. brianna keillor reports. >> reporter: here in wisconsin bernie sanders is hoping that college students and also
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support from labor voters will help deliver a win in the wisconsin primary. he's been talking a very big game in the badger state, emphasizing that he's won a string of several contests recently and that he has momentum. hillary clinton and her campaign are also managing expectations about how she is going to do in wisconsin. her campaign sent out a fund-raising e-mail to supporters asking for money and noting that bernie sanders has outraised her in the last three months and also that the polls in wisconsin are showing her down. she's concentrating a lot more on new york. her adopted home state where there are a whopping 247 delegates at stake. she had a last-minute swing through wisconsin this weekend. but mostly she's been spending her time in new york, trying to make sure that remains in her column when voters go to the polls on april 19th. brianna keilar, cnn, milwaukee. >> joining us now to discuss the presidential candidates and tuesday's wisconsin primaries, he's a democratic strategist and a campaign consultant with
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shellman communications. >> sitting next to him, john thomas, republican consultant and founder and president of thomas partner strategies. thanks for being with us. it was an unusual night tonight for donltd trump in wisconsin. he he rolled out his wife, melania. i think this was the first time she actually did a stump speech for her husband. this is some of what she had to say. >> it is wonderful to be here today with you and with my husband. i'm very proud of him. he's hard worker. he's kind. he has a great heart. he's tough. he's smart. he's a great communicator. he's a great negotiator. he's telling the truth. he's a great leader. he's fair. >> okay. do you get extra points because your wife likes you? i mean, at the end of the day does rolling melania out on the campaign trail, does that do anything to erase the huge
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negatives that donald trump has right now among women? >> no. but it's all he's got going into the home stretch. so he's got to do something. >> miss wyoming afterwards came out and spoke as well tonight. >> right. he's rolling now. he understands that there's a gender issue here. he's trying to undo that. but sometimes you just -- you're in too deep. i think what donald trump is going to have to show, and i don't know, it might be too late for wisconsin but he's going to have to show as we go into new york and california, certainly if he's the nominee, he's going to have to show that he's in control and that he cares about women and he has yet to show us to this point. >> and dave, to that point, other than bringing out his wife, what exactly is the playbook here for trump to win wisconsin? it's hard to make out his strategy. obviously, cruz is already leading him by ten points in that marquette poll. but it seems till now it has essentially amounted to insu insulting the state's popular governor, scott walker. so what's the game here? >> i think he's pulling out all
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the stops. i think he understands that if ted cruz beats him there it's going to sort of shift the narrative because you're not going to have a contest for a whole two weeks up until the new york primary on april 19th and he doesn't want to have that narrative where tom -- pardon me, cruz has the momentum and enthusiasm and he doesn't want to deliver a xwloe to his campaign and a win to the anti-trump movement. so this weekend he pulled out all the stops. he had sarah palin stumping for him. he even skipped having a bris with his grandson to come and barnstorm in the state. i think he understands fundamentally he has to win the state. if he does it's going to infuse his campaign with the momentum he needs and it's going to strengthen the argument that he's electable and he's going to hit that 1,237 number. >> this is the first time we've already seen the anti-trump movement coalesce behind one candidate and one -- >> and they're strong in wisconsin. >> they're quite strong. exactly. you've got the popular governor. if they can't stop trum. in wisconsin it's a very hard narrative. trump's probably going to take new york. one thing we're looking at wisconsin and if trump
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understands that if he can stop cruz here it's very hard going forward. >> you guys mentioned the delegate count, the magic 1,237 delegates which is what he needs to win the nomination on the first vote. this is the most complicated electoral process in the world. and not many people understand how all of this work. a look now at how the delegates will vote, some of the states anyway, come the convention. look at this. >> reporter: you may look at the delegate count back there as all these candidates try to get to that magic number to clinch the nomination and think at the convention these delegates will go and represent the view of millions of americans from all those primaries and caucuses. and they will to a degree. but if nobody gets that magic number, then many of these delegates will become free agents. they can vote for whomever they wish. and then the people who are selected to do the job can make a big difference. let's look at tennessee as one example. 58 delegates here based on the popular vote.
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donald trump gets 33. ted cruz gets 16. marco rubio gets 9. under the state rules, and every state has different rules, they must vote that way for the first two ballots at the national convention. but after that they can change. and the trump campaign has already accused the state party of trying to push people into the delegation who will vote against him. if that happened, and worst case scenario, he could find that he lost a state that he already won. what about louisiana over here? this is basically a tie for that state's 46 delegates. donald trump got 18 of them. ted cruz got 18. marco rubio got five. and five were uncommitted. so we already don't know what these people are going to do. but after the first ballot the entire louisiana delegation becomes unbound, meaning it could all become a big question mark as to how this delegation is going to vote. what about north dakota over here? north dakota only has 28 delegates. but there never was a popular
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vote there. the state party simply met in its own convention and they decided who the delegates would be to go to the national convention. it looked like ted cruz did pretty well getting his supporters in the delegation, but we don't know because none of these people has to say whom they're going to vote for before or even during the convention. so again, big question mark. bottom line, multiply this times all the different states. if you get into a contested convention and you go in vote after vote after vote, if won't just be the bayou state where a lot of people will be seeing some voodoo voting going on. >> a lot of voodoo voting. i love that. the interesting thing about what is happening with this delegate count is that ted cruz, who understands how the system works, is really cleaning up here in states like louisiana. he didn't win the state. donald trump did. but ted cruz is walking away with more delegates. and this is getting me to the point here. if we look at the amount of money that ted cruz and donald trump and everybody has been spending per volt, trump has
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spent about $4 per vote. ted cruz has spent about $10. trump has been very proud about the fact that he has run this lean, mean penny-pinching campaign. but has that been kind of -- has he nickel and dimed himself too much? he hasn't invested in the ground game. he doesn't have the people, you know, in those states who understands how those rules work. could his penny pinching effectively cost him, you know, an uncontested convention? >> it's a good point. donald trump does what he knows how to do, and that is to control and win the media cycle. and he's the best of anyone in the field to this point. i don't think donald trump understood or valued a ground game. ted cruz knew that his path, although narrow from the outset, if he ran a smarter, more targeted campaign, understood the process better, we saw it in iowa, he came out strong. in these processes where ground game matters, where strategy matters, ted cruz runs a better operation. i don't think anyone on my side of the aisle would disagree with that. >> if i could jump in real quick, one of the criticisms after iowa for donald trump was he didn't have a ground game. ted cruz had this sort of robust
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infrastructure needed to organize folks, develop the electricity on the ground to turn people out for a caucus. and i think that's translating well on the delegate front. the other thing that's interesting in terms of the republican delegates is the marco rubio delegates. i think there's something like 160. there's eight ben carson delegates. all those folks are similar to democratic super delegates. at this point they're uncommitted. they could be the difference between trump getting that 1,237 number or not. >> i want to jump in and bring in john kasich because he's saying he's the value for money candidate. listen to what he's saying. >> because he doesn't have any votes. >> listen to what he's been saying about how money's been spent against him and talk about his chances. let's listen. >> i'm not getting out. why would i get out? particularly when trump's worried i'm going to get his votes, which i always knew i could do. and we're not going anywhere. we're going to be fine. they've spent, i don't know, a million dollars, including smearing me, ted, senator ted, the smear artist.
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you know, they're attacking me in wisconsin. for a guy that's not doing very well, they sure are worried about me, spending a lot of money trying to knock me out. but they're not going to be successful in that. >> as they talk about how money's being spent -- >> john kasich's like the kirkland brand of candidates when it comes to like paper towels. it looks like it can get the job done but it's not going to get you all the way there. that's what we're seeing right now. john kasich has run a lean campaign. but he really doesn't have a realistic shot. >> yes, he does. he's going to win 108% of all the delegates. what's wrong with that math? >> he's betting it all on the convention. >> i think there's a chance he could pick up some states. he's actually polling within the margin of error in states like pennsylvania and other rust belt states. so i think there is an argument for him to continue sort of staying in the race. potentially if there is a contested convention he's the only establishment candidate who's still running theoretically. they could coalesce around him if there's a second or third round vote at the convention. >> but the argument is if it gets that far it's not going to
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go to kasich. it's going to go to paul ryan or -- >> bernie sanders raising a lot of money. $44 million last month. >> unbelievable. >> still making the argument he is the best nominee to face donald trump for the democrats. >> this is what momentum is in national poll after national po poll, we beat donald trump by huge margins. [ cheers and applause [ cheers and applause ] yooooj margins! >> that's awesome. >> he gets me every time. listen, there he is putting out that message, saying they've got momentum and they're beating trump. but hill clinton's campaign manager, robbie mook, put out something this evening saying he has to win 60% of those basically -- those northern states. >> bernie sanders may have momentum. hillary clinton has math. i mean, i'd take the math overt momentum at this point of the
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game. >> there's no doubt that the math works for hillary. there's about 700 delegates she's got in terms a lead over bernie sanders but he does have the wind at his back. he's won six of the seven last contests. he's polling ahead of her in wisconsin. it's a do or die state. if he does prevail it's going to give him momentum for saturday's caucus in wyoming and potentially could jolt him forward and contest her lead in new york. if he wants the narrative of staying in the rhys and make the electability argument he he's got to win decisively. he can't win by three or four points. he's got to come out double digits. >> if he carries california, carries wisconsin, going into the convention he has more political capital, k extract whatever he wants in terms of policy agenda. >> good to speak with you. >> we'll be back next hour, keep this going. >> thanks, guys. short break, when we come back, a new rort indicates donald trump has some big leverage in his feud with fox news. we'll have more on what trump could have on that news network and its boss, roger ailes. plus the governor of alabama
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during any normal election a republican running for u.s. president would not just need the backing of fox news and its conservative viewers but said candidate would actually try to woo and court the network. not donald trump. >> fox is playing games, yeah. fox is going to make a fortune. i told fox you should give money to the wounded warriors. i'm not a fan of megyn kelly. i think she's a third rai-rate reporter. i think she frankly is not good at what she does. and i think they could do a lot better than megyn kelly. so i'm going to be making a decision with fox. but i probably won't bother doing the debate. >> that was back in january, when trump pulled out of a fox news debate. part of his on again/off again feud with the network's star anchor megyn kelly. the ceo of fox news is this man, roger ailes, who has publicly defended kelly against donald trump. but he's also tried to placate trump on a number of occasions as well. and now a new report in "new york" magazine alleges that trump has super duper ultra top
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secret information, information potentially hugely damaging about fox news and roger ailes. cnn's senior media and politics reporter dylan baez is with us now from the newsroom on what this dirt could be. the super duper alleged dirt and how donald trump may have got said alleged dirt. let's start with the backstory here, dylan. reportedly how is it that trump is sitting on this trump card, if you like, about fox news? >> right. so this goes back to 2014. of course before donald trump was planning on running for president or at least before he told anyone he was planning on running for president. what happened is that roger ailes is in a contentious severance negotiation with one of his former lieutenants, his head pr person at fox news. that person was threatening to unleash all sorts of unsavory details about roger ailes during these negotiations. so ailes called in donald trump to play mediator, if you will, between the two parties because trump knew not only ailes but
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also the lawyer for the sort of aggrieved party. trump came in, and as he confirmed in this report he did indeed play a lead role in those negotiations. how much he learned during those negotiations about roger ailes, that's what we still don't know. >> okay. that gets to the second question. any indication of what this information could be? >> yes and no. you have to imagine that if this came out during the process of litigation that maybe trump learned whatever it was that his former lieutenant thought he had over ailes. the problem is the reporting on this is somewhat thinly sourced. so on the one hand, we know that trump was in that room privy to whatever information these men had. on the other hand, there's not a great deal there to tell us exactly what trump might know. and indeed, if you look at all the times that roger ailes has gone up against trump, the times
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he's defended megyn kelly, defended the network. we even have multiple statements being issued by fox news, no doubt coming from roger ailes himself, suggesting that donald trump isn't fit to be president of the united states, that he would cower to america's enemies like putin and the ayatollah. so you know, you have to ask yourself, if trump were holding something over roger ailes and he wasn't going to use it then, you have to question how much dirt he really has. >> i guess the argument for this story having some water, if you like, is that at least initially fox did seem to hold back a little when trump went after megyn kelly. megyn kelly herself even reportedly was disappointed by the lukewarm defense of her by the network, by ailes. so again, does that give it some weight or is that all just a bit too convenient in the timing? >> well, i think you bring up a very good point. however, i would also note that roger ailes is one of the few
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media executives who has actually issued as robust a defense of his anchors and has taken on donald trump in the way that he has. of course donald trump has made no shortage of negative comments about various members of the media. and you know, for all the sort of feelings that we have about fox news, you know, historically being a right-wing news organization, being sympathetic to republicans and to conservative causes it really is roger ailes more than anyone else who has gone up against donald trump at least with those statements. now, it's also true at the same time that there are a lot of pro-trump voices on fox news. so i think some people who do believe that maybe trump has this dirt over ailes believe that if he didn't, roger a sxlz fox news would be going even harder against trump than they already have. >> allegation this report is making is that i guess in a sense trump is essentially blackmailing the network and ailes. has there been any comment at
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all from fox about this? >> no. fox news isn't weighing in on this at all. and i believe from their view is they don't want to engage this, they don't want to further this story any more than it's going to run on its own legs. but you're right, it is a serious allegation. the suggestion here is that donald trump, the front-runner of the republican party, could manipulate one of the most influential and powerful figures in the american news media. it's a very serious accusation. and again, you have to go back to how credible is it. you look at that article. a lot of great points brought up in that article about donald trump's campaign. that point specifically seemed somewhat thinly sourced. >> dylan, as always, great to speak with you. thank you. >> thank you. now, an alabama lawmaker is expected to announce tuesday that he intends to file a resolution to start impeachment
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proceedings against the state's governor, robert bentley. bentley's embroiled in an alleged sex scandal involving his former top aide. audio recordings recently surfaced purportedly of him making sexual comments. he's admitted to make the comments several years ago and repeatedly asked for forgiveness. >> it's mine. i own it. i own it. i did it. i point no fingers at anybody else. i make no excuses for them. i own my problem. it's not your problem. you have other problems. it's not your problem. it's my problem. and i have to deal with that. and so i have humbly opened myself up to the people of this state, and i have asked them to forgive me. >> bentley has denied having an affair with his aide who resigned last week. a short break here on "cnn newsroom." when we come back, the u.s. is looking at what it might take to bring isis down, and that could
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welcome back, everybody. you're watching "cnn newsroom" live from los angeles. i'm john vause. >> and i'm isha sesay. the headlines this hour. the first migrants to be deported from greece under the eu's controversial new plan and now in turkey. greek officials say the migrants had not applied for asylum. under the so-called one in one out deal one syrian refugee will be resettled in europe for every
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one returned to turkey. presidential candidates are getting in some last-minute campaigning ahead of tuesday's wisconsin primary. the latest poll has ted cruz ten points ahead of donald trump. bernie sanders on the democratic side leads hillary clinton by four points in that same poll. u.s. defense officials say the obama administration is considering sending more special operations forces into syria to fight isis there and in iraq. their sources tell cnn the idea is not set in stone. discussions are expected at the white house this week. now, european officials are looking for nearly two dozen european radical islamists with links to isis, some with links to the attacks in brussels and paris. >> and that has security services on high alert trying to stop ice fris striking again as cnn pentagon correspondent barbara starr reports, how many are on the run is unclear. and they could be anywhere. >> reporter: the terror attacks in brussels and paris have european and u.s. security
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officials chasing dozens of isis operatives and terror suspects identified as part of a wider terror web, stretching from europe to the middle east including at least eight suspects they believe are linked to the isis attacks in paris and brussels. about 18 additional jihadists not directly linked to specific attacks but tried in absentia in european courts also on the run. their whereabouts unknown. the manhunt underscoring the reach of isis from its base in syria to inspire and direct attacks in the west. with operatives trained in bombing and weapons tactics. >> we need to do even more to prevent the flow of foreign terrorist fighters. after the paris attacks the united states deployed surge teams to europe to bolster these efforts. >> those teams working on border and aviation security in europe. >> isis is able to place people
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wherever and whenever they want to. they are able to in essence create cells where and when they need to create those cells. they're also operationally capable of hiding under the radar. >> president obama will begin reviewing options for increased efforts in both syria and iraq as the u.s. looks to accelerate its campaign against isis. the u.s. recently bombing a suspected isis chemical weapons laboratory at mosul university. targeted air strikes increasingly going after top isis leadership. u.s. special operations looking for fabien clan, a senior operative. he is believed to be in and around raqqah. one military option, additional u.s. special forces inside syria to help local fighters take more ground back including raqqah. >> the big focus would be in syria particularly as we -- as you look toward raqqah is doing what we can to enable those
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local forces to make them even more effective and to be able to provide even more pressure on isil as those forces isolate raqqah. >> reporter: there is also a new u.s. military training program for moderate syrian rebels. the last program failed in a spectacular fashion. this time of course they hope it works. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> cnn's intelligence and security analyst and former cia operative bob baer joins us now from newport beach in cole cal. so bob, given the thousands of homegrown jihadis in belgium right now, is it surprising that at least eight others directly connected to last month's attack are still on the run? >> well, it's probably more than eight, john. i mean, a lot of these people are using alias documentation. they're renting apartments. they're part of the underground, criminal underground. so they know how to get away with this. a lot of these guys came out of prison or are criminals themselves. and you know, they know how to
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do this. they know how to hide. and they can move from one area to another. one country to another. and you can't get all the documentation and the rest of it. so the police, it's not easy to do. >> and i guess, bob, one of the big issues they have in europe is it's just so easy to move from country to country. there doesn't seem to be any sort of real system in place to track these people even once the government, as in the case of belgium, once they've been alerted that a wanted terrorist has entered into the country. >> well, especially, john, these people are europeans. it's their -- you know, it's their home. they know how to get around. they know how to cross borders. there are border crossings all over europe where there's not good checks. they can get away with this. you can walk into switzerland from france and vice versa. and then again, going back to the alias documentation, the ability to make bombs very easily. we've seen that. and also purchase weapons in the black market. and the europeans are going to be at this for months if not years trying to track this cell
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down, the paris cell. >> we've got these reports out there that isis has been building this terror network across europe for a number of years right now. the former spy chief in france says trying town ralph this network he says it will be like shaking a bag of fleas. what does he mean? how hard is this going to be? >> it goes back to the algerian threat in the '90s. this has gone into the islamic state. these cells are embedded in parts of paris, lyon, brussels, all over europe. a lot of them are north african origin. these people have been radicalized since the '60s. it's difficult to tell who has turned to the islamic state and is prepared for violence. it's very, very difficult. and especially because these services don't have human sources inside these groups. >> yeah. bob, thank you. bob baer there with some insight into exactly what's happening in europe or more importantly i guess what is not happening right now.
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thanks, bob. >> time for a quick break. a massive document leak is putting some of the world's most powerful people on the defensive and spark outrage around the globe. what's revealed in the panama papers, just ahead. also, villanova is celebrating its first ncaa basketball title in three decades after a thrilling finish in houston. soup and sandwich and cannonballs and clean and real and looking good and sandwich and soup and a new personal best. and a little help and soup and sandwich and study group. good, clean food pairs well with anything. try the clean pairings menu. at panera. food as it should be.
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those financial dealings are not illegal per se. but they could point to some shady activities. >> yeah. these papers accuse high-profile leaders of hiding billions of dollars, but they insist they've done nothing wrong. nina dos santos explains. >> reporter: their names read like a who's who of the world's elite. heads of state and officials of soccer's governing body, fifa. netted in a massive leak of alleged shell companies in the tropical tax haven of panama. 11.5 million files on 214,000 companies from the archives of the law firm mossac fonseca. the leak made public by the international consortium of investigative journalists is more than 1,500 times larger than wikileaks in 2010. among the documents, the names of 12 current or former leaders as well as 128 other politici s politicians. associates of vladimir putin are said to have funneled $2 billion through banks and offshore
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firms. allegations his aide describes as "fibs." argentina's new president, mauricio macri, who denies the suggestion he owned awn declared stake in a bahamas-based firm. and iceland's prime minister under fire for failing to disclose ties to an offshore company which was run by his wife. when pressed on the matter, he stormed out of this interview with swedish tv. with so many allegations, some governments say that they will now investigate. with the u.k., france, australia, and mexico looking at tax evasion. >> i think it's hugely significant. >> i think it's going to have impact for months and possibly years to come. and hopefully, it will cause governments, particularly the united states and the u.k. to sort of reassess how they deal with these offshore secrecy zones. >> reporter: also in the spotlight, fifa dismissing allegations of links between a member of its independent ethics committee and three men already
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indicted on corruption charges by u.s. authorities. setting up an offshore firm is relatively easy and entirely legal. there are some legitimate reasons for doing so, especially in the case of international businesses and families that operate across many different tax jurisdictions. but it's the secret nature of these shell companies that has raised concerns about tax evasion and other criminal activities. in a statement the law firm mossack fonseca whose documents were posted said "we have formed more than 240,000 companies. the vast majority for legitimate purposes. of course," it goes on to say, "there are some that end up being used for illegitimate activities, but that is not our responsibility." with journalists still poring over mountains of data, there may be more revelations to follow. nina dos santos, cnnmoney, london. cnn's senior media correspondent and host "reliable sources" brian stelter joins us now. brian, welcome. what do we know about how this
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consortium of journalists dug into this data dump to uncover the inner workings of mossack fonseca? >> this is really remarkable. we've never seen anything quite like this in terms of the cooperation that is spanning so many different news outlets. it all started, the leak was sprung in early 2015 when this anonymous source reached out to a reporter for a newspaper based in munich, germany. now, this reporter initially was communicating with the source via secure messaging apps, and after a while the data became so -- you know, so massive, there was so much here that the newspaper reached out to this international consortium of investigative journalists, which then was able to connect with dozens of other media partners. so in total we're talking about more than 100 news outlets here, several hundred journalists who spent months looking over the documents. in fact, journalists in 25 different languages all examining the information. it is from everything i can tell and according to the consortium itself the single biggest act of
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journalistic collaboration we've seen, and it's only possible because of the internet. think about 20 years ago this sort of cooperation would not have been possible. i think what we're seeing is the sort of wikileaks effect. clay shirky describing this as the ability to not let journalism be shut down because it's happening across so many borders via the internet. >> and speaking of the role of technology in all of this, you yourself just mentioned that the whistleblower connected with that journalist in germany using secure messaging, secure messaging app, something we've heard about in previous occasions, speaking specifically to the edward snowden situation, who also used these kind of secure apps. i mean, technology's really aiding the dissemination of information and these whistleblowers connecting with journalists. >> yeah. it may not be that there are more would-be whistleblowers in the world than there were 50 years ago. the difference may be today that
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they have the capability to actually reach reporters and to reach organization that's are interested in their information. and so casen point here, we have no idea who this anonymous source is, and there's no indication that this is a snowden situation where the source will eventually reveal his or herself. remember how when the snowden leaks started a after a few days glenn greenwald and laura portris went ahead and identified snowed with his consent and he became a household name. in this case the source said he feared for his life and did not want to be identified, also wanted no monetary compensation, simply wanted to expose what's in these documents. and here she was able to do that by sending the documents via some sort of encrypted method. the details are a little bit sketchy. but i find it very interesting that the source and the journalists were communicating through a series of secure messaging apps. so they were actually changing apps as they went along because they wanted to be as secure as possible. they would use one form of this and then another form and then another form.
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>> it's certainly fascinating. it's worth pointing out to our viewers the leak is a journalist's dream because not only does it reveal high-profile names but it also provides remarkable insight into the offshore system which till now has been largely shrouded in secrecy. >> yeah. when it comes to a story like, this a story about a topic as complicated as this, there's nothing a reporter wants more than documents. primary source material. and that's what this leaker provided. by providing 2.6 terabytes of data and then letting reporters figure out what to do with it. they provide the primary source material for what's going to be weeks and months of reporting. it was made very clear today in interviews here on cnn that there are going to be more stories in the weeks and months to come based on these documents. so what we're really seeing is just the beginning in terms of reporting about this topic, all instigated by this leaker. you know, we think about the pentagon papers decades ago or edward snowden a number of years ago. time will tell if this will end up being even more consequential
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than those leaks. >> we'll be watching very, very closely. brian stelter, always a pleasure. thank you. >> yeah, it's a big story. we'll take a short break here. when we come back, villanova has won the ncaa men's basketball championship. it was a stunner. we're live in houston, the scene of a very wild finish. that's coming up next. get in the way? ford to ln try nexium 24hr, the #1 selling brand for frequent heartburn. get complete protection with the leader in frequent heartburn. that's nexium level protection.
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but finding someone to enjoy it with... sure is. marie callender's. welcome back, everyone. villanova is this year's men's college basketball champion. the wildcats beat unc in a thriller monday night. >> unc nearly forced the game to overtime. three-pointers down the stretch. the wildcats drained three of their own right on the buzzer to take the title 77-74. >> the wildcats have made early exits from the tournament the past few years. but they made this one count, claiming the program's first win -- first title win since 1985. >> that's about 31 years. cnn's andy scholes watched all of it. you take seconds on the clock, chris jenkins a three-pointer and you have a finish for the ages. >> i tell you what, guys, that was awesome. i've been to a lot of college basketball games, lots of sporting events. this one right up there with
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some of the greatest of all time. this finish was just unbelievable. and as we take a look at the highlights to see how it all went down, mike the jordan, the greatest player to ever play the game was in attendance cheering on his tar heels. they were down three points with under ten seconds to go when senior marcus paige hits just an unbelievable shot. it would have gone down as one of the best shots in tournament history. he hit it with four seconds left to tight game. and then this is when chris jenkins became a hero. they got the ball up the court and at the buzzer he knocked down one of the greatest shots in basketball history. villanova won 77-74. first championship since 1985. and i caught up with chris jenkins moments after his legendary shot. >> tell me about what was going through your head when that ball came out of your hands. >> you know, every time i catch to shoot and i'm fortunate enough to get a shot off, i think they're all going in. so in my mind when he fouled me
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on that shot that shot was no different. i one-two stepped and let it go. >> what are you thinking right now? can you believe what just happened? >> i just want to meet charles barkley. all those guys up there picked against us. so i just want to say hello. >> all right. as you can imagine, guys, the campus of villanova in philadelphia went absolutely nuts when jenkins hit that shot. these are live pictures we're looking at right now. the party that's still going on on campus at villanova. obviously, people partying in the streets, burning whatever they can find. i imagine this party's going to go on throughout the night. >> i think i heard you say that burning everything they can find. i'm not entirely sure. the heartache for north carolina experiencing now. roy williams so close to a title. now saying good-bye to a great senior class. >> absolutely. and just the emotions of this game. north carolina was down ten in the second half.
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they gave everything they could to fight back toned up tying the game on that marcus paige three. that three was unbelievable the way he double clutched and made it. all the north carolina fans, which did outnumber the villanova fans in the stadium, they went nuts, and then to lose on a buzzer beater like that is just crushing. many of the north carolina players were very emotional when they were heading to the locker room. roy williams obviously not going to win that third national championship that would have put him on a very exclusive list. just heartbreak for north carolina. but on the other end, i mean, what a win for villanova. >> andy, thank you. you get some great assignments sometimes. >> you sure do. i'm jealous, andy. very jealous. >> thanks for staying up. >> thank you. after almost 30 years of pining for his bus, waylon smithers has finally come out as gay on "the simpsons." >> on sunday night's episode of the popular cartoon sitcom smithers admitted his true feelings for mr. burns. >> mr. burns, coming down i thought we weren't going to make it. i thought i'd never get to say
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to hear ted cruz tell it, wisconsin could be the turning point of the republican race for the u.s. presidency. he holds a ten-point lead over donald trump in the latest polls there. with voters set to cast their ballots tuesday in the state's primaries. trump, cruz, john kasich, all campaigning for last-minute votes. >> polls showed democrat bernie sanders with a slim lead over hillary clinton in wisconsin. they have agreed to a cnn debate in brooklyn on april 14th, just five days ahead of the new york primary. >> for donald trump wisconsin will be his first test after a series of missteps and a rare admitted mistake during the last week of march. >> cnn's senior white house correspondent jim acosta reports. >> reporter: donald trump knows the stakes all too well. after a bruising week, a big w in wisconsin could change everything. >> i've been given the last rites how many times? like ten? every week, it's the end of trump 37 then they walk in.
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sir, i don't know what happened, but your poll numbers just went through the roof. >> reporter: while he's scrambling to catch ted cruz, who's lead hg in wisconsin, the gop front-runner is attacking john kasich, acougs the ohio governor of being nothing more than a spoiler. >> he's lost like 29 or 30 or 31 times. whatever the hell it is. every single state and every single island. he ought to get the hell out. and let me tell you, he hurts me much more than he hurts cruz. >> reporter: already looking ahead to new york, kasich's message for trump -- don't hold your breath. >> donald trump said that i need to get out of the race because i'm getting his voters. well -- wait. no, no. i've got news for him. i'm going to get a heck of a lot of his voters. >> reporter: trump is also busy mopping up his recent messes telling "the new york times" he made a mistake retweeting an unflattering picture of cruz's wife. but he's still dominating the headlines with the "new york times" saying trump is sweaty sxent after wearing a bulletproof vest at his rallies and he raised eyebrows when he
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predicted over the weekend the country is head toward a very massive recession. a comment he tried to clean up today. >> what i said is we're going to go into a massive recession. but i also say if i'm president that's not going to happen. because i'm going to straighten things up. >> reporter: add to that trump's furious attempts to clarify his position on abortion after saying last week women who undergo the procedure should be punished if it's made illegal. >> the right now the laws are sxet that's the way the laws are. >> reporter: one internal trump campaign memo titled "digging through the bull" says america is sick of them. their idiotic attacks just remind voters why they hate the washington establishment. donald trump 1, washington establishment media 0. as for cruz he's confident that trump's stumbles are keeping him in the hunt, especially if the race goes to a contested convention we are wants to hold kasich to gop rules requiring
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candidates to rack up eight wins to qualify for the nomination. >> there are only two candidates who will have met that threshold. the choice will be between me and donald trump. >> reporter: cruz is trying to capitalize on trump's weakness among women, blaming him for a "national enquirer" story that claimed the texas senator was being unfaithful to his wife. >> it's completely made-up nonsense. it's simply not true. i have always been faith tofl my wife. i love my wife. >> reporter: jim acosta, cnn, superior, wisconsin. so much happening on the campaign trail. let's bring in dave jacobson. he's a democratic strategist and a campaign consultant with shellman communications. we also have with us john thomas. he's a republican consultant and the founder and president of thomas partner strategies. gentlemen, welcome. >> thank you for being with us in the brady bunch boxes with us. this is great. >> thanks for having us. >> after the first time brought out his wife melania. she has spoken at these sort of rallies before but she hasn't done a stump speech for him so
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far but she did one tonight. let's listen to some of what melania trum hp p had to say. >> it is wonderful to be here tonight with you and with my husband. i'm very proud of him. he's hard worker. he's kind. he has a great heart. he's tough. he's smart. >> okay. so donald trump is a hard worker, he has a big heart and he's really, really kind. it's coming from his wife. does this actually mean anything for women voters out there? and john, i'll throw it over to you as the republican in the room. >> you know, it's clear from this move today that donald trump understands he has a real gender gap -- gender problem. and so look, he's trotting out his wife, his ex-wife, his daughter. any women who support him. but i think the fact is this is just icing on a big problem for him. and if he doesn't do something more fundamental to change
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women's impressions of him -- and i would recommend that you have to fire the campaign manager, cory that whether or not cory battered michelle fields, anyone who lays a finger on michelle or a woman has no place in my world. >> as we look at the polls there in wisconsin right now with ted cruz, at least according to that marquette law school poll leading by ten points, what are we looking at here? what is happening? is this a problem particular to wisconsin, the fact that donald trump is trailing, or is this part of a bigger issue that he's hit a ceiling in general? >> look, i think it underscores the real gender gap and the problem with women that donald trump has. he's clearly running scared in wisconsin. he's pulling out all the stops. he's bringing his wife out. he brought sarah palin to campaign and to barnstorm the state over the weekend for him. he understands fundamentally that he has to win this state. if he does, the narrative that he's got the momentum and the electricity to sort of propel his campaign forward and lock up
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the 1,237 delegates that he needs to secure the nomination, you know, i think he understands that he has to win wisconsin to continue that narrative. it's going to be a tremendous body blow to his campaign if he loses in wisconsin and ted cruz prevails, and i think it's going to deliver an enormous victory to the anti-trump movement and particularly the establishment. >> i guess that's the question for you, john. if he doesn't win in wisconsin, because a lot of the math has donald trump right now at 1,239 delegates, and that includes winning wisconsin because it was done a week or so ago. so if he doesn't win wisconsin, where else can donald trump make up those lost delegates? where else can he make those gains in the map, if you like? >> sure. well, if you look at new york, i believe the rules on the republican side is that you have to win 50% or more and then the state becomes winner take all. so it's critical that he keep his lead in new york and eclipse ted cruz with 50-plus percent of the vote. then you look to california. california's proportional.
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not a winner take all. it's proportional by congressional district. three delegates per district. so not only does donald trump have to win california, he has to win huge to make up for a lack of wins in wisconsin. >> that word is forever changed. >> and with that in mind. >> with that in mind, gentlemen, let's turn to the democratic side of things. we heard from bernie sanders a short time ago. he's feeling pretty confident of a large victory. take a listen to what he's saying. >> we have won 6 out of the last 7 caucuses and primaries. [ cheers and applause ] and not only have we won them, we have won every one by landslide victories. >> john, does -- or sorry, dave, rather, on the democratic side,
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does this actually mean anything? he may have won 6 out of the last 8 or whatever, but they're small states. they don't compare anything to the larger states that hillary clinton has won. and she has, as she says, more votes so far in this campaign than anybody on either side. >> look, i think it's validation that his message is resonating, his sort of people-powered citizen-driven, anti-establishment campaign has electricity and momentum. he actually needed to do just as well in the west as hillary clinton had done in the south. but you're absolutely right, john. it's really going to come down to delegate math. i think he's got a deficit of delegates by somewhere around short of 700 delegates. so he needs to essentially win 2/3 of the delegates in all the states moving forward in order to tie hillary clinton. that's not surpass her. at this point this is yet another state that is essentially a do or die state for bernie sanders. he has to win wisconsin and he's going to win decisively. that will propel his campaign potentially to wyoming, a caucus
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state this saturday that i think he'll prevail in and give him the momentum and media narrative he needs to cut into hillary clinton's sizable lead in a state like new york, which has got an enormous set of delegates. i think close to 250 delegates that are up for grabs. right now she's 12 points ahead of him. and if he has these back-to-back wins in wisconsin and wyoming t will give him the thrust of energy and the enthusiasm that he needs to continue moving forward and making an electability case. >> sticking with debt glegate-g new york, john, to bring you in, we know cnn is going to be doing a debate with the two kbd candidates, hillary clinton and bernie sanders, april 14th 37 they get to share the stage ahead of new yorkers voting. when you look at the situation between them now, who's got the most to lose in that debate? what's your sense of things? >> hillary clinton. look, she's the front-runner. you don't attack down when you're the front-runner. she didn't want to have a debate. they went back and forth. the sanders and the clinton
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campaign went back and forth on debate terms 14 times. and finally, when clinton said fine, we can have a debate, she tried to do it in the early morning and sanders said oh, no, i'm only doing a debate when everyone's watching. so look, this is sanders' big opportunity to take a whack at the front-runner. hillary's got a do no harm in this debate. she wants things to keep going the way they are because at this point math is on her side and she is the inevitable winner. but i think the bigger statement, john sxiand isha is democratic base is not happy with who hillary is as a candidate. they like bernie sanders. they like his message. and they like that he's not beholden topecial interests. >> and dave, how important is this new york primary for hillary clinton? not essentially in locking up the nomination but in demonstrating how she can be at a general election. this is her back yard. if donald trump hypothetically did very well in new york and she didn't do particularly well
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in new york, what message would that send? >> look, any front-runner going into a debate sort of has to have a mentality of do no harm to my campaign. right? i think she's accomplished that at most of these debates. she's come out looking like a tough experienced leader and i think these debates have actually been an opportunity for her to sort of come off essentially a little bit more authentic and human rather than having canned speeches or flashy rallies. this is an opportunity where she's answering questions, they're not warmed-over talking points. so i think the dedicates have actually been helpful to her campaign. simultaneous to, that bernie sanders has failed to really deliver the body blows that i think are going to make a meaningful impact in this race. he neglected to attack her on the e-mail scandal and it took him months to start attacking her on the wall street paid speeches, on the fossil fuel industry contributions and so i think this next debate i think folks are going to be tuning in to see if bernie sanders is going to take off the gloves and have at it against hillary clinton. i think he needs to do something along those lines in order to
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shang the race. otherwise, you're right. according to the math -- or john's right, pardon me. it's going to be very difficult for him to climb the steep hill to catch up to her on the delegate front. >> okay. >> interesting days ahead. >> dave, john, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> you're a long way away. >> thanks for having us. >> thank you, guys. >> appreciate it. all right. well, no voters have been more loyal this campaign season thn donald trump supporters. >> absolutely. cnn's gary tuchman went to milwaukee to meet the people who say they're behind donald trump no matter what. >> reporter: five hours in the snow to see their man. these are the trump true believers. >> whatever he does is okay with you? >> it's okay with me. i stabbed nd by him. >> reporter: if he put out hot coals at this rally would you walk over hot coals for him? >> absolutely. you put them out right now i will.
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>> reporter: and more and more of these true believers are adopting an you us against the republican establishment viewpoint. >> do you think the republican party is trying to steal the nomination from donald trump? >> absolutely. >> reporter: you all agree with that? >> absolutely. >> reporter: do you think there's a conspiracy to take this away from donald trump? >> absolutely. absolutely. i voted republican my whole life. i'll follow trump. whether he goes independent, third party, i'm voting for him either way. >> reporter: mr. donald j. tr p trump. across the state in lacrosse a different rally but the same sentiments. >> i think they're trying to pull a fast one. >> republican party? symbol absolutely. >> i think the republican party is not only going to, they're not going to try, they're going to steal it from him. >> if trump doesn't get the nomination, would you support the republican nominee? >> i wouldn't. >> so what would you do? >> i would stay home. >> presidential candidates often get the benefit of the doubt from their most loyal supporters. but in rally after rally it's increasingly evident that nobody cult vaits loyalty more
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successfully than donald trump. >> i just love trump. and i don't want anybody else but the trump. he's my man. >> reporter: and like the candidate himself many of them agree that if donald trump is mistreated by the republican party this election they'll return the favor. >> if they steal it from him, i think he's going to get 1,237, and if they try any shenanigans to take it i will leave the republican party forever. >> reporter: another one of the trump true believers. gary tuchman, cnn, milwaukee. during any normal election a republican running for u.s. president would not just need the backing of fox news and its conservative viewers but said candidate would actually try to woo and court the network. not donald trump. >> well, fox is playing games. fox is going to make a fortune. i told fox you should give money to the wounded warriors. i'm not a fan of megyn kelly. i think she's a third-rate
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reporter. >> that was back in january when trump pulled out of a fox news debate. part of his on again/off again feud with the network's star anchor megyn kelly. the ceo of fox news is this man, roger ailes, who has publicly defended kelly against donald trump but he's also tried to placate trum on a number of occasions as well pchb a. and now a new report in "new york" magazine reports that trum has super duper ultra top secret information, information hugely damaging about fox news and roger ailes. cnn's senior media and politics reporter dylan byers is here from the newsroom with more on what this dirt could be. the super duper alleged dirt and how donald trump may have got said alleged dirt. let's start with the backstory here, dylan. reportedly how is it that trump is sitting on this trump card, if you like, about fox news? >> right. so this goes back to 2014. of course before donald trump was planning on running for president or at least before he told anyone he was planning on running for president. what happened is that roger ailes is in a contentious
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severance negotiation with one of his former lieutenants, his head pr person at fox news. that person was threatening to unleash all sorts of unsavory details about roger ailes during these negotiations. so ailes called in donald trump to play mediator, if you will, between the two parties because trump knew not only ailes but also the lawyer for the sort of aggrieved party. trump came in, and as he confirmed in this report he did indeed play a lead role in those negotiations. how much he learned during those negotiations about roger ailes, that's what we still don't know. >> okay. that gets to the second question. any indication of what this information could be? >> yes and no. you have to imagine that if this came out during the process of litigation that maybe trump learned whatever it was that his
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former lieutenant thought he had over ailes. the problem is the reporting on this is somewhat thinly sourced. so on the one hand, we know that trump was in that room privy to whatever information these men had. on the other hand, there's not a great deal there to tell us exactly what trump might know. and indeed, if you look at all the times that roger ailes has gone up against trump, the times he's defended megyn kelly, defended the network. we even have multiple statements being issued by fox news, no doubt coming from roger ailes himself, suggesting that donald trump isn't fit to be president of the united states, that he would cower to america's enemies like putin and the ayatollah. so you know, you have to ask yourself, if trump were holding something over roger ailes and he wasn't going to use it then, you have to question how much dirt he really has. >> dylan, as always, great to speak with you. thank you. >> thank you.
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>> very intriguing. >> yeah. i'd love to know what it is. if it is -- if there's a there there. >> exactly. the ncaa men's basketball final lived up to its march madness billing. villanova beat the university of north carolina in an instant classic, draining a three-pointer as time expired. >> just seconds before the tar heels almost sent the game to overtime with a clutch three-pointer of their own. but the wildcats had the last word at the buzzer. it's their first title in 31 years. >> and the crowd went wild. >> they're still going wild in philly right now. they're tearing up the town. >> partying up a storm np party on in philly. time for a quick break. millions of leaked documents threatening to expose offshore accounts belonging to some of
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a massive leak of documents from a panamanian law firm. >> the so-called panama papers reflect a network of offshore shell companies set up for a number of world leaders. among those named is the prime minister of iceland. crowds packed the streets in reykjavik demanding he step down. as brian todd reports, it's just the tip of what could become a massive global scandal. >> reporter: it is the first and most startling reaction to new allegations of billions in secret money. >> it's like you are accusing me of something. >> no, i'm just asking you questions. >> reporter: money held in secretive bank accounts kept offshore by world leaders. the prime minister of iceland walking out of an interview. he's one of several world leaders responding with anger and denials of wrongdoing to allegations they hid billions of dollars in clandestine offshore companies and accounts. the international consortium of investigative journalists and more than 100 news organizations spent a year looking through
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some 11 million documents leaked from a panamanian law firm which allegedly helped set up the shell companies. >> the range of people in the entire data ranges from everyone from mafia figures to fraudsters to prime ministers and presidents. >> reporter: the reports say several friends of russian president vladimir putin operated a secret network which moved at least $2 billion through banks and offshore companies. to be clear, the reports say putin's name is not on any of the accounts. and the kremlin has dismissed the allegations as "a series of fibs designed to attack putin." >> vladimir putin, if he needs resources, has access to those resources, and he has various ways of directly and indirectly suggesting to his friends to give him those resources. >> reporter: one example. sergei roldugin, a concert cellist who has been a friend of putin's since they were children. the reports say roldugin made hundreds of millions of dollars in profits through those offshore companies. >> i think it shows that mr. roldugin might abe better investor than he is a cellist.
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>> reporter: sergei roldugin told the guardian he was connected to those businesses a long time ago, "before perestroika, when russia became more open to the west in the late 1980s." the accusations stretch beyond russia's borders. saudi arabia's king salman allegedly used a company in the british virgin islands to take out $34 million in mortgages for his london homes. there's nothing to suggest anything the king did was illegal. >> he may be looking to these offshore accounts as just a safer place to hold their money. >> reporter: but the perception inside his kingdom, analysts say, may hurt him. >> i can imagine that the people on the ground in these countries are likely seething as they -- as the optics are rather horrible. >> reporter: cnn tried to get response from the saudi government to the reports in riyadh and here in washington. they haven't responded. the panamanian law firm denies any wrongdoing. it's possible at least some of the alleged corrupt transactions could have used the u.s. financial system, which would have been illegal under american anti-corruption and money laundering laws. the justice department tells cnn it's aware of the reports, it
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can't comment specifically about them but it is looking into them. brian todd, cnn, washington. >> cnn's will ripley is in beiging with more on the panama papers' global impact. relatives of current and former chinese leaders are said to have links with offshore firms. according to these papers. has there been any reaction from chinese officials? >> there has been no official reaction yet, isha. and the minister of foreign affairs is holding a press conference in about 90 minutes, and we will be there to try to ask questions about china's official response. but if the censors and the censorship are any indication here's what you're going to see a lot of. this is when you try to type the term panama or panama papers into wechat or weibo two, very popular social media sites. you just get an error message. on baidu, which is china's version of google there are only a handful of results if you search in chinese and one of them is this editorial buried on page 15 of the global times where they make no mention of
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the chinese officials named by the icij investigation into the panama papers, but what they do say is that this is essentially a conspiracy on the part of international media. they question whether these international reporters are trying to undermine chinese leaders and non-western leaders, specifically vladimir putin because they never actually mention that any chinese officials are implicated. i want to show you a live picture right now of cnn's signal in china, which is being blacked out by the censors as we speak. this just goes to show how sensitive it is oftentimes when we report about topics that china doesn't want its citizens to hear about, they cut off the signal of cnn and they block search terms. now, in the past there have been other investigation that's have implicated chinese officials. in 2012 "the new york times" and bloomberg's did some pretty explosive revelations about chinese president xi jinping and the former premier wen jiabao's families, money they were receiving. both of those news organizations
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were published. they were blocked from getting reporting visas in the country for several years. and in 2014 the icij also put out a report where they found about 22,000 examples of chinese offshore shell companies including 12 of china's richest and most elite citizens, many of them with political ties. after that report the chinese government, because they were faced with hard evidence, their response was actually pretty muted. they basically just called into question whether what was being said is accurate. this is interesting, though, isha, because china has been very publicly cracking down on corruption. the president, xi jinping, himself trying to lead the charge to weed out all of this waste, people hiding their money offshore. yet it continues to seem that the highest, most else members in china remain untouchable even as china's corruption probe does target lower-level government officials. >> there's that news conference in about 90 minutes, you said you'd be monitoring it. we look forward to hearing what is said there. will ripley reporting from beijing. appreciate it. thank you. >> yeah, those are those
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on a close game, sinking a three-pointer at the buzzer to beat unc 77-74. the monday night game is the program's first title since 1985. donald trump is hoping for an upset in tuesday's wisconsin primary. his wife melania joined him on stage in milwaukee. he trails ted cruz by ten points in one of the latest polls. on the democratic side bernie sanders and hillary clinton are polling neck and neck in the badger state. >> major political figures from argentina to russia are denying any wrongdoing in response to millions of documents leaked from a panamanian law firm. the so-called panama papers allege that secret shell companies and offshore accounts were used by influential government leaders around the world. european officials are on high alert looking for nearly two dozen radical islamists with links to isis and some connected to the attacks in brussels and paris. >> as senior pentagon correspondent barbara starr reports, just how many are on the run is unclear, and they
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could be anywhere. >> reporter: the terror attacks in brussels and paris have european and u.s. security officials chasing dozens of isis operatives and terror suspects identified as part of a wider terror web stretching from europe to the middle east including at least eight suspects they believe are linked to the isis attacks in paris and brussels. about 18 additional jihadists not directly linked to specific attacks but tried in absentia in european courts also on the run. their whereabouts unknown. the manhunt underscoring the reach of isis from its base in syria to inspire and direct attacks in the west. with operatives trained in bombing and weapons tactics. >> we need to do even more to prevent the flow of foreign terrorist fighters. after the paris attacks the united states deployed surge teams to europe to bolster these
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efforts. and we'll be deploying additional teams in the near future. >> reporter: those teams working on border and aviation security in europe. >> isis is able to place people wherever and whenever they want to. they are able to in essence create cells where and when they need to create those cells. they're also operationally capable of hiding under the radar. >> reporter: president obama will begin reviewing options for increased efforts in both syria and iraq as the u.s. looks to accelerate its campaign against isis. the u.s. recently bombing a suspected isis chemical weapons laboratory at mosul university. targeted air strikes increasingly going after top isis leadership. u.s. special operations looking for fabien clan, a senior operative involved in planning external attacks. he is believed to be in and around raqqah. one military option, additional u.s. special forces inside syria to help local fighters take more ground back including raqqah.
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>> the big focus would be in syria particularly as we -- as you look toward raqqah is doing what we can to enable those local forces to make them even more effective and to be able to provide even more pressure on isil as those forces isolate raqqah. >> reporter: there is also a new u.s. military training program for moderate syrian rebels. the last program failed in a spectacular fashion. this time of course they hope it works. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> cnn's intelligence and security analyst and former cia operative bob baer joins us now from newport beach in california. so bob, the officials there saying at least eight militants directly connected to the attack last month in brussels are still on the run. does that number seem plausible to you? would you suspect it could in fact be higher? >> oh, he think it i think it's.
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safehouses they don't even know about. remember the attack happened in november of last year and they still haven't gotten -- you know, haven't even named all the suspects in it that supported it. so i think there's probably more than eight. there's eight that they can identify. but i think once you get those eight it will keep expanding the investigation. >> bob, we have these reports now that isis has been working on building this terror network across europe and they've been doing it for a number of years now. and that essentially the intelligence service completely misjudged what isis was up to. how does something like that happen and how do you quickly try to rectify what has been a mistake years in the making? >> well, it's a denied area. that's the problem. you can't get sources there. and for so long we've depended on telephone intercepts. and they've stayed off the
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telephone. they've got encrypted communications and the rest of it. there's also something else we're missing right now. i've been corresponding with sources in the middle east. a lot of these guys in raqqah are simply picking up and leaving and they're moving to camps in lebanon. palestinian camps where they're getting training. but the real threat is libya. all sorts of people are going there. so we could take raqqah tomorrow and a lot of these jihadists would still be within range of europe. it's not far by boat to lapadusa island in italy. by no means will this threat be over if we destroy ice nis syria. . >> some people think the attacks in syria keep taking more ground and territory away from isis that means there will be more attacks in europe. if we look at these individual cells and how they work in europe have we gone from a situation of sort of lone wolf attacks to now kind of small wolfpacks, if you like, more people involved but still operating independently?
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>> they're working independently. they're giving their strategic orders in raqqah to attack any target, vulnerable targets. but once they get to europe they operate independently and they don't need to communicate back to syria. they're also compartmented. one group won't know about the other group necessarily. there may be somebody coordinating. and of course there may be other groups out there. we have no idea about other groups unconnected to the paris and brussels attacks. i think that's what's going to really surprise us. >> yeah. more surprise on the way. not good ones. bob, thank you. bob baer, former cia operative joining us. bob, thanks. >> thanks. >> very frightening indeed. >> yeah, bob's so direct it's always disconcerting what he has to say. >> it really is. coming up on "cnn newsroom l.a.," brazil in a state of disarray from the stumbling economy to political scandals to the zika virus. brazil struggles to cope as the rio summer olympics get closer.
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well, brazil has long been considered a country on the rise, but it now faces a number of crises from its economy to its politics and to its public health. >> all that with rio welcoming fans to the summer olympics just four months from now. many there are worried the games could suffer. maybe they already are from all the turmoil across brazil. >> yeah, for more on all of this let's turn to dave wolichinski. president of the international society of olympic historians. david, welcome. as we list all the issues that brazil is contending with ahead of the start of these games, put it in context for us, have you ever known the games to be beset by so many problems ahead of its
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start? >> yes. >> first of all, having covered 16 olympics, always there are problems. you hear there's problems even in the best games like sydney 2000. this is wrong, this is wrong, the minute the games start everything's perfect. having said, that sometimes you have problems. the two that have been the biggest problems were athens in 2004 where they didn't really get it done in time and i'm sorry to say atlanta 1996, where the transportation didn't work, the computer system didn't work. >> these are problems, atlanta and athens, that every olympic games has to some degree. even in china there was some concern over security and that kind of stuff. but we're talking about a political crisis at the very top of the government, the zika virus. we're talking about pollution. we're talking about crime, drugs. the whole -- everything seems to be coming together for a perfect storm before the rio games. i think that's the thing which we haven't really seen before. of this magnitude. >> i think the zika virus is a
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whole other level. you have to keep in mind that they've never canceled the olympics for disease. although when they had the youth olympic games in china a couple years ago it was in the middle of the ebola crisis. and the international olympic committee, the ioc, said look, if we're going to allow the athletes from those countries to compete except in water sports and combat sports. and they kept three athletes from competing. that's the closest we've ever come to a cancellation of any sort in the olympic movement. >> given this situation on the ground now, the unrest, the lack of real support among the general public it would appear, the low ticket sales, all the rest of, it as a historian i have to ask you. what's the ioc's barometer for success? how do they define success with these games? because looking at it right now -- >> it's a low bar. >> i would say that success from the ioc point of view will be getting through it. that would be the main way. we're going to get through this. >> i mean, very quickly, on the bright side, though, all the
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venues are pretty much done. >> except for cycling. >> and they've come in pretty much under budget, right? >> yeah. they have to cut the budget by $500 million. no big deal. but the big thing the brazilians have going for them is the brazilians. they love sport. they love life. >> but they -- >> they'll be fine. once it starts and everybody's there there will be a lot of partying. >> great to speak with you. >> we'll get you back to discuss it all. dave wallechinsky, thank you. >> when we come back, a beloved simpsons character has come out as gay. no surprise to many fans but there's a personal inspiration behind this episode and we'll talk to the writer. that's up next. ♪ ♪ ♪
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♪ this guy's in love with you >> mr. burns, coming down i thought we weren't going to make it. i thought i'd never get to say something i've always wanted to. the truth is, sir, i'm in love with -- >> the sound of your own voice, yes. well, no dog would listen to the unending tune. don't take this the wrong way, but you mean nothing to me. someone i give less thought to than the little piece of popcorn stuck in my tooth. ooh. can you remove it? >> excellent. >> joining us now to talk about this is the writer himself, rob lazebnik. thank you so much for joining us. >> my pleasure. thanks for having me. >> congratulations on the episode. almost 30 years for smithers to come out. why did it take so long? >> well, i think we had so much fun with kind of the nod and the wink that people kind of knew and some people didn't know and certainly mr. burns didn't know. that kept going. but i think we reached a place
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in the show where we just decided it was time. and you know, the show does kind of track our times. so i think it felt right. >> one of the criticisms -- i thought it was great. my family did. we watched it. >> that's ail need to hear. >> thank you very much. one of the criticisms out there is mr. smithers never actually comes out and says i am gay. in fact, the closest he kind of gets to any admission was this scene in havana. let's take a look at this. ♪ >> i'm happy. eem in a new world and completely forgotten about. >> what, the buzzard of death? it reminds you of him. >> i'm sorry, sir. >> you address me like i am him? everything reminds you of him. i bet that mural of him being driven out of cuba in 1959 reminds you of him!
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>> ah, ulio. why didn't you think there was a need for some kind of big announcement to put this on the record? because some people said that's what the show is lacking. >> i think the story we wanted to tell is a story -- the surprise was that he's no longer -- he's potentially no onner pining for this 1,000-year-old man. the surprise isn't that he's gay. i kind of love that we did it in this way that the springfielders just embrace it. they've known it all along and they love him. in many ways he's the most competent character on the show. he's probably the reason that springfield city hasn't been destroyed in numerous meltdowns. >> yes. >> but he -- so when they discover that he might be ready to move on to find a new man, they just jump in. they're ready to help. and the line at the act break is lenny says, "it's time to find mr. smithers a woman. a woman who can find him a man." >> it's wonderful. rob, let me ask you about the back story here. it's very, very touching.
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and says a lot about the episode. this has a lot to do with your son. tell us about that. >> right. i have four kids. one of them, he's 21, johnny, he's in college at wesleyan university. and he's gay. and i'm a midwesterner. i'm from missouri. i don't really wear my emotions typically on my sleeve. so i sort of thought a year or so ago what better way to say i love you to my son than to write a cartoon about it, to embrace the subject. >> and what did he think of the show? >> he i think was delighted. he and i both live-tweeted it last night. he was -- again, in my pid western caution beforehand i was like make sure you say this or don't say that. he was like i got it. he was better thain was. >> did you run the episode by him? did you show him the script? did he have any involvement in it in. >> at the show we have this big story retreat every year where we pitch the episode that we really want to tell that season to our bosses. to my show runner al jean and to
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matt grow ning and james l. brooks, our bosses. before that i pitched the show to johnny and he was very helpful and gave me specific advice. i would ask him dumb questions. if smithers goes out with another guy, where should they go on a date? and he was like, a restaurant. >> idiot. >> but even more specifically, there was one moment in the show where homer is using an app that's basically grinder to find potential dates for smithers and none of us in the room knew how grinder works. so i texted johnny and i said johnny, how does grinder works? and he said that's the most hilarious thing a father has ever said to a son. so welcome to the world of modern parenting. >> yeah, indeed. >> fantastic episode. >> thanks very much. i appreciate it. >> thank you. and you're watching "cnn newsroom" live from los angeles. i'm isha sesay. >> i'm john vause. the news continues next with rosemary church after a quick break. "credit karma says my credit score just went up!"
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to bow out. sanders with a narrow win as clinton looks ahead to new york. and political upheaval in iceland, where a document leak would cost the prime minister his job. hello and welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. i'm rosemary church. this is "cnn newsroom. voting in wisconsin's presidential primary begins in just a few hours from now. and donald trump is in an unfamiliar position, underdog. the latest marquette university law school poll shows ten cruz with a ten-point lead. trump held three campaign events monday in a last-minute appeal for votes. >> if we do well here, folks, it's over.
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if we don't -- [ cheers and applause ] if we don't win here, it's not over. but wouldn't you like to take the credit, in wisconsin? for ending it. give wisconsin the credit for ending it. then, we can focus on hillary instead of these two guys. >> today, donald trump, predicted a big win in wisconsin. i think the people of wisconsin are going to do that. if we nominate hillary clinton, we elect hillary clinton. i beat hillary clinton. we've seen republicans standing together. it's very encouraging. meantime, democrat burn sni sanders holds a slim four-point lead over hillary clinton in that same market poll. the pair have agreed to a cnn debate in brooklyn five days before the new york primary. back in wisconsin, 42 republican delegates are up for grabs.
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86 for the democrats. for donald trump, wisconsin will be his first test, after a series of missteps and one admitted mistake during the last week of march. cnn's jim acosta reports. ♪ >> donald trump knows the stakes all-too well, after a bruising week, a big "w" in wisconsin could change everything. >> i've been given the last rites how many times? like ten? every week, it's the end of trump. then, they walk in, sir, i don't know what happened. but your poll numbers went through the roof. >> reporter: while he's scrambling to catch ted cruz who is leading in wisconsin, the gop front-runner is attacking john kasich, accusing the ohio governor of being nothing more than a spoiler. >> he's lost, like, 29 or 30 or 31 times. whatever the hell it is. every state and every island. he ought to get the hell out.
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he hurts me more than he hurts cruz. >> kasich's message for trump, don't hold your breath. >> donald trump said i need to get out of the race because i'm getting his voters. well, no. i've got news for him. i'm going to get a heck of a lot of his voters. >> reporter: trump is busy mopping up his recent messing. telling "the new york times" he made a mistake retweeting an unflattering picture of cruz's wife. he raised eyebrows when he predicted over the weekend, the country is heading towards a massive recession. a comment he tried to clean up today. >> what i said is we're going to go into a massive recession. but i also say, if i'm president, that's not going to happen because i'm going to straighten things out. >> reporter: add to that, trump's furious attempts to come out on his position on abortion.
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>> right now, the laws are set. >> reporter: the real estate tycoon's team is lashing out against critics. one titles "digging through the bull," says america is sick of them. the attacks remind voters why they hate the washington establishment. donald trump one, washington establishment/media, zero. he is confident that cruz's stumbles are keeping him in the hunt, especially when he goes to an open gop contention. >> there's only two candidates who have met that threshold. >> reporter: cruz is trying to capitalize on his weakness against women, looking at a story that he was unfaithful to his wife. >> complete nonsense. i love my wife.
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>> for analysis on how the race is chaping up in wisconsin, we turn to larry sabato, director at the university center for politics. we saw in jim acosta's piece that donald trump is struggling to catch up to ted cruz in wisconsin. how is trump likely to go there, do you think? and then, of course, in new york. >> well, wisconsin, has turned into a real battle for the soul of the republican party. and it is an opportunity for the anti-trump forces to prevail. it looks like trump is going to lose. i'm saying that, because most of the polls, they're not completely in agreement, most of the polls say trump is going to lose. also because the key people on the ground think that wisconsin will follow their republican
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governor, scott walker, who was once a presidential candidate, and he has endorsed ted cruz to beat donald trump. there's little enthusiasm for cruz. it's mainly an attempt to stop trump. >> let's go big picture, here. how likely is it that trump will get the delegates needed? or do you think a contested convention is likely here? and you have to ask what role will john kasich play? he is behind in the delegate count. and cruz and trump want him out. >> take a coin and flip it. you'll have your answer about the contested convention. it is very, very close. if trump does lose wisconsin and lose the lion's share of delegates there, he's going to have to make up that ground some place. now, surprisingly, he may make it up quickly because in two weeks, we have the next primary, the new york primary.
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and who is the premier new yorker? it's donald trump. and trump may be able to sweep the board. it will be winner-take-all, if he gets over 50%. and right now, the polls show him over 50%. wherever donald trump loses, he is going to have to make up the ground in a subsequent primary. it's clear, now, this is going to go all the way through the final set of primaries on june 7th, which includes gargantuan, california. that's where we will decide, as a country, whether this goes to a contested convention or not. >> on the other side of the political spectrum, bernie sanders is confident he will win wisconsin and new york. and we want to hear what he has to say on that issue. >> the larger voter turnout, we will win here. if we win, we have a bounce
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going into new york state. if we win in new york state, i don't want to get hillary clinton more nervous than she already is. she is already under a lot of pressure. so, don't tell her this. i think we win here, we win in new york state, we're on our way to the white house. >> larry sabato, a very confident bernie sanders there. how is he likely to go up against hillary clinton in both those states? will he do as well as he thinks he will? >> it will be a surprise if sanders does not win wisconsin. it is a state tailor-made for him. there's a large youth vote there with many college students voting. there's a strong liberal tradition and socialist tradition in wisconsin. he ought to win. and he ought to win handily. we'll see if he is right and if
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the polls are right. new york is another matter entirely. hillary clinton represented new york for eight years in the u.s. senate. bernie sanders, of course, is a son of brooklyn, new york. so, there you have, in essence, two new yorkers running against one another. right now, hillary clinton has the edge. most polls have her about ten points ahead. i think she will be able to win new york. >> and it is worth mentioning that sanders eventually accepted the april 14 debate date with hillary clinton, after much resistance, it has been due to scheduling issues. it comes five days before the new york primary. what impact will that debate likely have? and can sanders catch up to clinton overall and give her a run for her money at the summit convention? >> you can't rule out an embarrassing gaffe by one candidate or the other. it could have an impact. we've had so many debates and town halls. i find it difficult to believe
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that one more will make all that much more difference. i tend to think here, it's a question of organization, and also spending. and there is an advantage for bernie sanders. he is raising more money than hillary clinton. and he is raising it in small contributions, which are renewable. he has an advantage there. i have to stress in terms of winning the nomination, hillary clinton is very, very, very likely to be the nominee. but the real question is, will she win that nomination from an enthusiastic convention? or will she have a problem reunifying the party because the sanders delegates are unwilling to join behind her? that is yet to be determined. >> yes. still a lot of unanswered questions. larry sabato, always a pleasure to chat with you. thank you so much. >> thank you. and later this hour, we will look at why conservatives in wisconsin are not gravitating towards donald trump the way
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they have in other states. a massive leak from a panamanian law firm has sparked outrage, embarrassment and investigations. e so-called panama papers claimed to reveal a secret network of offshore shell companies allegedly used by some of the world's most influential leaders. crowds in iceland's capital, demanded their president's resignati resignation. france, spain are among the countries investigating if their nationals are involved. nina desanto has more. >> reporter: they reads like a who's who. allege sell companies in the tax haven of panama. 214,000 companies were obtained.
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and 2.6 terra bites of information. it's more than 100,000-times larger wikileaks in 2010. on the documents, current and former leaders, as well as 128 politicians. vladimir putin is said to funnel $2 million through banks and offshore firms. argentina's new president, who denies the assertion that he has a stake in an underground firm. and iceland's president, who was failing to disclose ties. when pressed on the matter, he stormed out of this interview with swedish tv. with so many allegations, some governments say they will investigate. with the u.k., france, australia and mexico looking alt tax evasion. >> i think it's hugely
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significant. i think it's going to have impact for months and possibly years to come. and hopefully, it will cause governments, particularly in the united states and the u.k., to sort of reassess how they deal with the offshore secrecy zones. >> reporter: also in the spotlight, fifa dismissing allegations of a member of its ethics committee and three men indicted on corruption charges on u.s. authorities. setting up an offshore firm is easy and legal. there's legitimate reasons for doing so, especially in the case of international businesses and families that operate across different tax jurisdictions. but it's the secret nature of the shell companies that's raised concerns about tax evasion and other criminal activities. in a statement, the law enforcement mossack. we have formed companies, the vast majority are for legitimate purposes. there are some that are used for
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illegitimate activities. but that's not our responsibility. with journalists poring over mountains of data, there may be more to follow. naina desantos, cnn, money. >> one officer says his firm was hacked. here's what the firm's director had to say. >> translator: we are a firm in existence of nearly 40 years. we have formed more than 250,000 anonymous corporations throughout our history. and we take care only of the legal part. we do not participate in the activities of the company. nor do we have responsibility over what the company does. we're not responsible for the activities of the 240,000 companies we have established throughout our history. cnn's will ripley is in beijing with more on the panama papers' global impact.
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will, we've been pointing out a massive leak of documents, affecting many leaders across a number of nations and involving their relatives. what are we learning about the mention of family members of china ea china's leaders. and how is china responding to the leaked documents? >> the allegations is that seven relatives of china's elite, in the leak. that has been the response of china, this story break on a national holiday. no official government response, yesterday. there's a press conference in 45 minutes where we expect to learn more details. the chinese sensors are blocking out the coverage. cnn's signal went to black. anytime the chinese viewers hear us talking about potential ties to china's political elite and secretive offshore money flowing into hidden accounts, we get blacked out. and the same is true online.
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when you type in a search, you get this error message right here. there is one result that comes up when you type up a search in chinese, an editorial in the china times, claiming that the western media is behind allegations, trying to make nonwestern leaders look bad. they talked about vladimir putin. no mention of the chinese president or the chinese political elite. what's interesting rosemary is that china claims to be launching its own corruption crackdown. they have arrested thousands of government officials they accused of corruption. but a lot of observers note that these are lower-level officials. >> we have seen it before. will ripley reporting live from beijing. many thanks to you. we will have much more on the panama papers later this hour, including a look at what
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a helicopter crashed in the u.s. state of tennessee while on a sightseeing tour, killing five people onboard. the crash engulfed a hillside in flames and sent a huge plume of spoke into the sky. police say there is not much left of the chopper. the federal aviation administration will investigate the cause of the crash. the e.u.'s controversial one in/one out plan, is starting to take effect. monday saw the first migrants departed from greece land on turkish soil. as well as the first syrian refugees from the program arrive in germany. germany's foreign minister prays the exchange as a big first step.
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>> translator: that is an important step and part of the agreement with turkey. and we hope that the agreement is proven effective in the coming months, meaning that many jeffries have been helped. and also, the number of refugees that we have seen coming in the last year will clearly be reduced. >> meanwhile, turkey is maintaining its stance that europe should have been doing more sooner. turkey's president chided wealthy e.u. nations for not doing enough on the migrant crisis. >> translator: turkey took in 3 million syrian victims. but it's obvious how many were sent away. you look at the countries that they've taken. >> the e.u. deal gives turkey financial compensation and visa-free travel in europe for turkish citizens. and cnn witnessed the first buses taking migrants to the
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port in lesbos. they say they won't stop pursuing their dream of a new life in europe, even if they're deported. >> reporter: under the cover of darkness, the buses arrive. full of disappointment and disbelief. these are the first migrants to be departed from greece back to turkey. part of a deal meant to discourage migrants from making the deadly sea crossing that's wreaked havocs on boarders. one border officer for every migrant. some migrants, even handcuffed. for now, they're deporting men. they're from places such as pakistan and afghanistan. migrants looking for a better life. a sad end to a journey once fueled by hope. they were bussed from the detention center. here, morale is at an all-time low. migrants are allowed to leave.
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