intercepters. >> one of the most dangerous spots on earth right now. thanks very much for that report. that's it for me. thanks for watching. "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. donald trump live this hour. his first appearance since a bruising defeat in wisconsin. will he make any changes to his campaign? and the fight for the gop nomination now headed to the convention floor. delegates say they're worried things could turn violent. plus, it's never been nastier between hillary clinton and bernie sanders, fighting for every vote in new york. let's go "outfront." >> good evening. i'm erin burnett. outfront tonight, the breaking news. donald trump about to speak at a massive rally on new york's long island. nearly 20,000 people have requested tickets for tonight's

rally in his home state. protesters are gathering there. inside the crowd. since beingefeated last night in wisconsin, donald trump said, quote, ted cruz is worse than a puppet. he is a trojan horse. the statement went on to claim that cruz is illegally coordinating with his super pac. trump is hoping for a major comeback in his home state of new york and a new poll shows him dominating 52% of republican voters in new york. john kasich is second at 25. ted cruz at 17. if you get over 50%, it's winner-take-all in new york. liberal politicians hammer new yorkers with those values. at least one protester greeted cruz with what might be called a bronx cheer. >> ted cruz has no business

being in the bronx. to receive this right wing bigot is an insult. >> cruz appeared a short time later stating the race is shifting in his favor. >> wisconsin was a perfect state we were told for donald trump to win. if you look at the election results last night, we won across the state. we won women. we won men. we won young people. >> cruz victory increases the odds of donald trump not reaching enough delegates to outright win the nomination. 20,000 people expected. i know cnn has some new reportg on what's happening inside trump's campaign. >> reporter: that's right. the trump campaign is trying to turn the page on this tough night in wisconsin, but there's some disagreement on how to do

that. we're seeing a power struggle playing out within the trump campaign between campaign manager corey lewandowski and paul manifold. >> it was a turning point, i believe in, in this entire election. >> reporter: the gop primary fight tends to be veering towards a contested convention. >> i'm more and more convinced that our campaign is going to earn the 1237 delegates needed to get the nomination, either before cleveland or at the convention in cleveland. >> reporter: donald trump lashing out tuesday night after his loss and accusing cruz of illegally coordinating with the super pacs that support him, adding ted cruz is worse than a puppet. he is a trojan horse, being used

by the party bosses. >> if he wants to engage in insults, he's welcome to do so. he gets very angry when the voters reject him. >> reporter: now trump's campaign is trying to regroup and work through an internal power struggle between campaign manager corey lewandowski and veteran gop strategist paul manifort. he may be taking on a more prominent strategic role as he urges more discipline to ensure that trump wins enough delegates to become the nominee. trump needs roughly 60% of the remaining delegates. as the race moves to new york, the billionaire businessman has a hometown advantage. 52% of gop primary voters support trump compared to 25% for john kasich and 17% for ted cruz. but if trump can't get the delegates he needs and appears poised to lose in a convention

fight, trump ally roger stone is already threatening retaliation. >> we're going to have protests, demonstrations. we will disclose the hotels and the room numbers of those delegates who are directly involved in the steal. if you're from pennsylvania, we'll tell you who the culprits are. we urge you to visit their hotel and find them. >> reporter: now the trump campaign's hope is to lockdown those 1237 delegates before they get to cleveland and to avoid a floor fight. of course, new york would be key to that effort, but it could be a rough stretch up to the new york primary when you're dealing with stories like staff shake-ups. >> thank you very much, sarah murray. michael cohen will be with me in just a moment, but sunlen serfaty is outfront. it was a big win last night for ted cruz. right now he is on trump's home

turf. >> reporter: that's right, erin. he touches down here in donald trump's home turf well behind in the polls here in new york. that primary coming up in just under two weeks. you know, cruz campaigning here today, really trying to send a clear message though that he does not intend to secede new york to donald trump. 95 delegates here at stake in new york. given this state awards delegates on a congressional district level, right now the cruz campaign is microtargeting districts and focusing on rural parts of new york. ted cruz is trying to court new york voters, but really offering something of an explanation or a redefinition of that famous new york values hit that caused such

such a ruckus months ago. offering up the names elliott spitzer and anthony weiner, saying people know what liberal democrat values are. >> now joining me my guests. good to see you. let's start off here. donald trump's entire brand, you've worked with him an entire decade, it's about winning. he has a lot of bravado. yesterday in wisconsin he was promising people there could be some sort of an upside surprise like new hampshire where, of course, he won big. how is he dealing with a loss like this? >> he is actually perfect. this hasn't changed his strategy. this hasn't shaken him at all. donald trump, as you know, is a new york real estate developer. they're really strong and they don't let these things get to

them. i would actually tell ted cruz i wouldn't be taking that victory lap so fast with all due respect in the delegate count. donald trump is 236 points still ahead of ted cruz. more than 40% differential between the two. you're talking about wisconsin that has 42 delegates. you do know donald trump always wants to win. he's all about winning. he wanted to win it. in all fairness he probably should have. wisconsin, they're manufacturing sector has really gotten hit hard. >> the state seemed tailor made for him. >> what happened to all the negative ads? it's the millions and millions of dollars by the super pacs coming against him. you had scott walker. you had paul ryan. everybody now coalescing against donald trump. it's not about letting donald trump -- it's not about letting donald trump get to the 1237. the whole campaign of cruz and

especially kasich is stopping trump. >> if you want to blame that on the stop trump forces, and they did spend a lot of money -- but if you did blame the loss on that, that's not going to stop. shouldn't something change? >> i think they're going to button up quite a bit on the ground in each of the various states as opposed to what they didn't have to do in the past. maybe that's why they brought in manifort and a series of other people to the campaign, but the most important thing is that he stays on message. donald trump is all about making america great again. he's all about creating jobs, national security. these are the issues that are the most important to the american people. if the american people want to see a real change, you need somebody who is a natural deal maker, which is donald trump. >> you mention paul manifort, a long time gop operative.

there could be some changes after last night's loss. are you advising donald trump to make some changes in his campaign? >> no, i'm not involved with the campaign at all. what mr. trump does and what he discusses with corey lewandowski and others at the campaign, i don't sit in on those meetings. i see mr. trump every day. i speak to him every day, but i talk to him about the trump organization and other matters. >> do you think he should be making changes at all? >> right now the campaign is growing. right now, he's in a fight. he's in a real dog fight. trump likes these fights. he enjoys winning them, which he does so often. >> that's one of the things people like about him. it's also one of the things they loathe about him. he said this week two of the most important people in his life have criticized him for not

being presidential. here's how he put it. >> my wife is always saying -- and ivanka. you've heard of ivanka, right? she just had a baby. honey, be more presidential. daddy, be more presidential during the debate. i will after the fight, but i'll be a little bit unpresidential as it beat hillary. >> do you go, look, you have to be more presidential? >> donald trump is presidential. he looks presidential. he speaks presidential. i don't know if i agree with melania or ivanka on that. he has to do what he needs to do to win. he wants to be the president of the united states of america because he knows he can fix the country's problems. he knows he can really make a difference for so many people. >> in order to win, he has to

win certain groups of people. you can't just win with white men. "washington post"/abc news poll, 80% unfavorable rating. among women, 2/3 unfavorable. when are you going to turn those numbers around? >> i don't agree with any of those polls and any of those numbers. the media, this liberal media, comes after mr. trump. >> that's not the liberal media. that is just a poll. >> the poll is manipulated in order to come up with these. women do not have an issue with mr. trump. pastor darryl scott, we had a conversation. we came up with this notion of a a coalition of diversity for trump. there's 150,000 people combined. you have muslim americans and hispanic americans, women, you have hispanic women, you have

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tonight, donald trump holding a major campaign rally in new york, the next key state in the republican race for president. you're looking at live pictures at long island. protests outside that rally. ivanka trump appearing moments ago on that stage. the primary coming up on april 19th. and these are live pictures of protesters lining up outside the rally to protest the gop frontrunner. new york is a crucial state. ted cruz says wisconsin is just the beginning of the end of trump's campaign. >> it culminated four states in the last two weeks where we have beaten donald trump over and over and over again. yesterday, wisconsin, a state that he bragged the day before, the day before yesterday, donald

trump promised a, quote, big victory in wisconsin. the men and women of wisconsin resoundingly rejected his campaign. >> but the odds are increasingly likely that neither man will have the magic number of delegates to avoid a contested convention. trump needs 67% of the remaining delegates to get to 1237. ted cruz needs close to 90%. john kasich can't get there before the convention. outfront now, senior adviser to donald trump, republican strategist, the president of a pro-ted cruz super pac, and general counsel. thanks to all of you. ed, let me start with you on the strategy side of this. you need 60% of the remaini ini votes to get to the convention. >> part of it is the rule changes in each state for each delegate selection process.

we're coming to new york next where if mr. trump gets more than 50% in a state and every congressional district, he'll end up with 85 or 95 of the delegates of new york. head to pennsylvania, 17 delegates winner take all. california, a winner take most area. >> you're betting on specific states at that point, ed. barry bennett works with you as a senior adviser on the campaign. he admitted to me the campaign is, quote, in his words playing a little bit of catch up at the game of winning over the individual delegates. something ted cruz has spent a lot of time doing over the past two years. how do you catch up when a lot of these folks who are unbound, allowed to vote for who they want, have already said that they're loyal to ted cruz? how do you possibly dig out of

that hole? >> well, first of all, we'll win on the first ballot. but second of all, a lot of the other delegates are saying different things to us behind closed doors as well. we're doing well. we're catching up. we're catching up in places like michigan. catching up in places like georgia delegates this weekend. we think we're making the moves we need to make sure mr. trump is the nominee. >> i have to preempt you because donald trump has started speaking. big speech since that loss last night in wisconsin. >> we love new york and we are all together going to make america great again, folks. [ cheering and applause ] >> so i was driving over from manhattan, and i passed queens. i love queens. do we have a lot of queens? i grew up in queens. i grew up in queens. i used to get here at like 2:00

in the morning to play a round of golf. y'all know what i mean, right? but i love this city and i love this country, and we are going to start winning again with our country because we don't win. we never win. we never, ever win anymore. we don't win with our military. we don't win on trade. we don't win on health care. we don't win on anything. we are going to start winning again, folks. [ cheering and applause ] >> so in coming up, i said to myself and i said to some of the people when we were in the car -- i said, i'm self-funding my campaign. i'm putting my own money in, right? all these people that are running for office, they take money in from the special interest where they can't make

proper transactions for you and that's going to stop. it's going to stop. you look at what's happening -- i love you too. i love these people. these are my people [ cheering and applause ] [ chanting trump ] >> i have so many family members here today. look at that. boy, oh, boy, my sons and my daughter. did ivanka do a good job? you know she had a baby like five days ago, so she did a good job. so i should not say, ivanka, you're fired, right? i promise. i promise. i promise.

i love this. somebody else would say that's a tough crowd. it is. we love this crowd. we love you people. we love you people. we love. so here's what we're doing. on june 16th, i came out and i said -- and it's not easy to do. i came down the escalator with melania. i took a deep breath. it was all about trade and borders and all sorts of things. today it's that, but it's also about our military. we can't beat isis. we're going to knock the hell out of isis. believe me. [ cheering and applause ] >> can you imagine what our great generals, general george patton, general douglas

macarthur, can you imagine what they'd be saying if they saw what's going on with what we're doing and the way we fight? we don't fight like people from long island. we don't fight like people from new york. so we're going to rebuild our military. it's totally depleted. you know it. we know it. th don't like talking about it. we are going to rebuild our military. it's going to be bigger and better and stronger before, and nobody is going to mess with us. nobody. and very, very important we're going to take care of our vets. our vets are not taken care of. [ cheering and applause ] >> so our country owes now $19 trillion. [ booing ] >> we owe trillions to china.

we owe trillions to japan. the whole thing is absolutely ridiculous. it's going to change around. it's going to change quickly. we are going to renegotiate our trade deals in china. the case of china, $500 billion trade deficit every single year. it's going to end. mexico. i love the mexican people. i love hispanics. i love hispanics. they're unbelievable people. we have now $58 billion trade deficit with mexico, and our businesses are sadly leaving our country going to other countries. they're leaving our jobs. in long island, you know it better almost than anybody. our companies are moving to mexico. they're moving to other countries. everybody is looking for jobs. you know what? we're going to end the practice. we're going to keep our

companies here, and we're bringing companies back to the united states. [ cheering and applause ] [ chanting build a wall ] >> we are going to have a strong border. we are going to build the wall. it will be a real wall, a real wall. are you ready? are you ready? are you ready? who is going to pay for the wall? >> mexico. >> who? >> mexico. >> by the way, 100%.

when these politicians come up, they say you can't really get mexico to pay. i just put out a plan three days ago so easy. when we're losing $58 billion a year in trade deficits and a wall is going to cost $10 billion, folks, how easy is that? it's going to happen, okay? it's going to happen. 100% it's going to happen. [ chanting build a wall ] >> go ahead. [ chanting build a wall ] >> it never changes. hey, new york is called new york -- [ cheering and applause ] >> it never, ever will change. so what's happened and very

strongly what's happened? we are going to have those strong borders just as you saw last week. the border patrol, 16,500 people in the border patrol endorsed -- and i didn't even ask -- endorsed trump for president. [ cheering and applause ] >> the first time they've ever done it. they have never endorsed anybody for president, but they want to have strong boarders. i thought to myself has anybody heard the snake. has anybody heard of it? should we do it? should we do it? all right. the main thing -- can you hear me all the way in the back? can you hear me? can anybody not hear me clearly? all right. i want to thank my brother, my

cousins, my nephews, my beautiful daughters-in-law, my son, wonderful ivanka. they can't even believe it. you know lying ted cruz came today. he couldn't draw 100 people. 100 people. [ booing ] >> i'm telling you. in fact, it was a big headline today in the new york post. he couldn't draw 100 people. do you remember -- >> donald trump at his rally on beth page, long island. i know you're no fan of donald trump, but there is no nod at all to his loss last night. nothing. you feel his performance tonight

is, what, same as usual? not? >> seems a little more incoherent than usual. i think he's rattled. you lose a primary. you go on to the next one. he didn't even though up in person to do that. you put out a paper statement. he puts out a psychotic statement that accuses people of breaking the law. that's a serious legal charge. a criminal charge basically, could be. they never even bother to back it up. they throw it out in their non-concession statement after losing wisconsin. what kind of campaign is that? >> ed, you're part of it. he uses the word psychotic. what do you say? >> i thought that statement was genius as we move toward the new york primary. >> what evidence that super pac

has -- do you think it is appropriate to charge people for breaking the law without evidence? >> i think there's plenty of places we can look to see what happened. >> would you like to cite one piece of evidence? >> not right now. >> you accuse kelly ann of breaking the law. >> bill, we didn't accuse kelly ann's pac of anything. >> what was the statement about? >> there are multiple super pacs for mr. cruz, as all of you know. >> saying it's not yours. >> ours is the only pro-cruz super pac that's recognized by the ted cruz campaign as a super pac. when you lose a primary, you say it is a bad day for the home team and you move on. you say congratulations and you say, i'll see you on my home turf in new york.

it's one thing to hurdle insults about someone's wife. but it is quite another to accuse ted cruz himself and professionals who have been at this long as you have, ed, of committing a felony and breaking a law. we could just brush it off, but it shows you the danger of saying things that aren't true and getting people to believe it and getting 20,000 people at a rally today to lap it up if it was true. >> you weren't the one that wrote that statement, but does anyone have any say on something like that? or did you get a chance to give him advice on how he should say he lost or does he do that on his own? >> that's not my part of the campaign. i'm chasing delegates. mr. trump's instincts have been chasing those who are upset with washington and the status quo.

i think he's working his best to make sure those voices are heard and are heard across america. >> you heard ed say that donald trump is counting on four states specifically to get him to 1237 before the convention so he doesn't have to go through multiple rounds, which is something ed doesn't want to deal with. california, new york, pennsylvania, and new jersey. >> yeah. >> is that reasonable? >> it's a steep hill to climb. no question about it. it's possible, but it's going to be a very steep hill to climb. >> i think the chances are we're going to go into a convention without a candidate having 1237 and we're going to go round and round and round. >> it could be quite a carnival. >> a carnival. >> only because you have all these folks now warming up to ted cruz. and part of it is -- >> you think it is reasonable he's going to win 80% of the states from here -- >> no contested convention. >> you're saying into the

convention? >> yes. i think ted cruz will amass enough delegates at that point and enough credibility that he will be the odds on favorite and the second and third ballots, we don't know what will happen. look at what happened this past weekend before wisconsin. the cruz campaign went into north dakota and won 18 of those 25 delegates -- >> we should note for the viewers. nobody in north dakota actually got to vote. it's just the delegates. these are the state by state rules. >> that's right. >> and they're confounding. >> you cannot create an infrastructure and a ground game in analytics overnight. it's been lacking for a year here and it's costly. >> i think ann's right about this. if donald trump wins new jersey, the bulk of california, the bulk

of new york, does very well in other states, indiana was key, he'll be the nominee. this is not going to be resolved. right now donald trump is winning 37% of the popular vote. if he wins more of the popular vote, he'll win. he's not increasing his share of the popular vote. ted cruz has surprisingly been able to reach out and get a lot of mainstream republicans to vote for him. >> you still don't have a lot of people in congress supporting ted cruz. you have someone like peter king in new york who hates donald trump and he's saying i don't want to vote for ted cruz either. let's not forget here that it's not as if everyone was in love with ted cruz to begin with. the stop trump team seemed to be getting on board with him because everybody else got out. >> to be fair. >> to be fair, he's won more than ten states. that's fine. we accept that.

>> in terms of endorsements, he's not getting that. >> he's getting it from the voters. the one-two trump-cruz punch has meant the establishment is flat on its back in this cycle. you take the fiction of electability and you replace it with voter electricity. this whole nonsense of telling us who can win and can't win is how we get these candidates who lose to barack obama twice and not in squeakers. versus non-establishment.ent - that's opinion settled. ted cruz has been overpowering the public polls by nine points. >> erin -- >> go ahead, ed. >> i think it still is trump versus the establishment. i think part of senator cruz's problem is just what i said.

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the democratic race taking a nasty turn. we're hearing some of the harshest attacks yet. hillary clinton saying she's not sure bernie sanders is a democrat. brianna keilar is outfront with the sanders' campaign in philadelphia. >> reporter: tonight bernie sanders is equipped with more momentum and enthusiasm than ever before. >> with our victory tonight in wisconsin, we have now won seven out of eight of the last caucuses. >> reporter: but afteret

another defeat, hillary clinton is implementing a new strategy, trying to blunt that sanders' momentum by going on the offensive. >> every candidate asking for your vote owes it to you to be clear about how we are actually going to keep our promises. >> reporter: clinton is pointing to an interview that sanders did with the new york daily news where he struggled to identify how his administration would break up the big banks. >> i was, i think, a little bit surprised that there didn't seem to be a lot of substance to what he was saying. >> reporter: clinton is taking that new line of attack on the campaign trail, painting sanders as ill prepared to be president. >> well, in a number of important areas he doesn't have a plan at all. >> reporter: while the sanders' campaign is warning that clinton's attacks have the potential of ripping the democratic party in two. >> there are sharp contrasts between the two, but let's not denigrate other people's supporters and tear the party apart. >> reporter: clinton today laughed off that notion as

ludicro ludicrous. >> senator sanders by his own admission has never even been a democrat. >> if you look at the numbers, i'm still considerably ahead in both the popular vote and most importantly the delegate count, so i'm feeling very good about where we are. >> reporter: even though sanders has put together a string of victories, they haven't amounted to big gains in delegates. sanders must start winning big in delegate-rich states like new york, but recent polling showing clinton with a double digit advantage. sanders is hoping by the democratic convention that clinton's 433 super delegates will rethink their support. >> i think a lot of these so superdelegates are going to be thinking around them.

>> reporter: now bernie sanders is getting ready to take the stage here at temple university in philadelphia. obviously, a very big crowd here. democrats in pennsylvania go to the polls, erin, on april 26th after voters in new york go to the polls. both of these states will be key for him to win if he is going to increase his chances of having a pathway to the white house. >> joining me now, adam schiff. he endorsed hillary clinton. and a bernie sanders supporter who ran against clinton in her new york senate campaign. the reality is no one expected this to be at this point. back when bernie sanders announced he was running, barely anyone covered it. here we are with them in this race. he has now won seven of the past eight contests. what do you think is happening? >> i don't think the race has really changed. i think you see in different parts of the campaign when there are states that are more favorable to one candidate.

you can expect, i think, to see ebbs and flows in the political cycle. i don't think we're going to see any surprise in new york. i think the secretary will do very well there. it is surprising certainly where we find yourselves overall where you have essentially -- >> let's be honest. you would have thought this would have been locked up a long time ago, right? >> i would have thought on the gop side it wouldn't be the chaos and mayhem that it is, and on the democratic side, i don't think anyone would have expected that bernie sanders would be the heartthrob of young people. a lot of surprises here. i think the democratic race is far more predictable. i think secretary clinton will be the nominee. i don't think the end result on the democratic side will be a surprise, but it has been a surprising campaign. >> jonathan, now in new york -- and new york is a crucial state for both of them. neither one can afford to lose

it. hillary clinton has pounced on an interview that bernie sanders gave to a paper here, the new york daily news, in which he specifically said he didn't know exactly how he would break up the banks. here he is -- here she is, sorry. >> if you're concerned about income inequality and holding the banks accountable, you have to know how it works and what you have to do to make it work. >> so does she have a point? this is central to his campaign. >> the one thing the congressman and i agree on is we like the chaos and mayhem in the republican party. i'm embarrassed to watch donald trump rise to the level that he has and the attacks against all sorts of people. bernie was very clear in his record. he's been very clear he wants to break up the big banks. the things he brought up in the interview are no different than what the president of the federal reserve bank of minneapolis said. ultimately congress has to decide whether -- how you put

together the system, how you break up the big banks. he said we're not quite clear how to do that. >> let's just be clear. there is no easy answer to the question, but if it is the core of your ethos, shouldn't you have a better answer than i'll figure it out later? >> i think the presidential candidate sets the high bar and the vision, but then he does get into the specifics. nothing what he said was different than what he had said before and nothing was out of the realm of the debate of how do you break up the big banks. >> do you think he should have a better answer to that question? >> absolutely. it is his entire campaign. more than that, i think it's a perfectly fair point for the secretary to raise. i don't think it threatens to tear apart the democratic party. that's exactly the kind of issue-based debate we should have. the part of the debate that

disturbed me more was the discussion on the gun issue and the way that senator sanders belittled the effort by the sandy hook victims to get relief in court. i carried that bill, the bill to repeal the gun industry. >> that's not the issue we brought about tearing the democratic party apart. it's the lies and the attacks that the clinton campaign has done going back to -- >> he used an interesting word. he blamed it on her ambitions. here he is. >> this is what i would say to them which is don't destroy the democratic party to satisfy the secretary's ambitions to become president of the united states, right? >> ambitions. >> it's about ambitions and it's about false -- >> why are ambitions negative? >> it's about the false attacks that the clinton campaign has levelled against bernie sanders about his health care plan and a whole series of things that he's

proposed. one of the things, for example, it is mostly false what chelsea clinton and hillary clinton said about his wanting to enact a single payor system. without bernie sanders, key pieces of legislation would not have passed in the senate. >> thanks very much to both of you. just moments ago, bernie sanders demanding that hillary clinton apologize. we're going to tell you why next. ...non-drowsy claritin every day of your allergy season. claritin provides powerful, non-drowsy 24 hour relief... for fewer interruptions from the amazing things you do every day. live claritin clear.

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things are getting very ugly in new york. hillary clinton taking direct aim at bernie sanders. moments ooh bernie sanders fought back. >> what happened at sandy hook is a tragedy beyond comprehension. but maybe secretary clinton might want to apologize to the families who lost their loved ones in iraq or secretary clinton might want to apologize to the millions of workers in this country who lost their jobs because of the disastrous trade agreements that she supported. >> jeff zeleny is outfront with the sanders campaign. this is getting nastier. was the word liar the other day. now this. >> a couple of reasons why. any new york primary is designed to be rough and tumble. it's a tabloid culture that's feeding this. this is not iowa or new

hampshire. it's new york. the tensions have been rising on both sides. senator sanders saying she should apologize for the iraq war vote is not quite the same as sandy hook. i expect we don't hear him say that again. i don't think you can equate those two. both sides have so much at stake here. not only all the delegates but both of them have to win. we say that a lot. in this case, bernie sanders not mathematic mathematically, he'll keep going. but a new york win would be -- >> they both call this home. in a sense they both have all their eggs in this basket. you can't justify it as the demographics weren't in my favor. you can't. >> you can't. that's why senator sanders set up camp in brooklyn in the same borough he was born and lived from 0 to 18. he lived there for 18 years. we visited there to get a sense of how intense this is.

the first interview with his new state director here in new york. let's take a listen. >> two weeks ago we were being lectured by the clinton campaign to change our tone. now the tone is definitely changing where they're coming after us more. we're ready for it. >> he says they're going to go after her on fracking in upstate. they may even do tv ads on that and on income inequality. the clinton campaign is fighting back. they say they want to try to disqualify him here, show he's not qualified to be president and to defeat him here in new york. >> also this level of physical exhaustion. her laughing mult pell times a bit strangely in an interview on cnn. the laugh is back. and then you had him lashing out with that iraq war comment. it's when you are tired that you can make mistakes. >> no doubt about it. they've been campaigning for a long time. they're both older. he's 74. she's slightly younger than that. i believe they're both engaged

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thank you for joining us. set your dvr to record "outfront" so you can watch the show any time. "ac 360" starts right now. john berman in for anderson tonight. can the donald take a bumping and keep on trumping? one thing is for sure. a night after the pummeling he took in wisconsin at the hands of ted cruz, he can sure draw a crowd. donald trump just finished speaking in bethpage on new york's long island. a big audience inside and plenty of protesters outside. for the first time, he spoke about senator cruz since losing to him last night. >> you know, lyin' ted cruz came today. he couldn't draw 100 people. 100 people. i'm telling you, in fact it was a big headline today in "the new york post". he couldn't draw 100 people. now do you remember --