tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN April 7, 2016 5:00pm-6:01pm PDT
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below the belt. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> thank you for joining us. "ac 360" starts right now. good evening. john berman in for anderson. and here is new york where campaigns come to get nasty. philadelphia, too, where bill clinton today confronted protesters from black lives matter defending his wife almost lecturing them for criticizing her use 20 years ago of a word used back then to describe young violent criminals. the word was superpredators, and it still packs a punch today. >> here's the thing. i like protesters, but the ones that won't let you answer are afraid of the truth. that's a simple -- very, very afraid. i talked to a lot of african-american groups. they saw black live matter. they said take this bill because our kids are being shot in the
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street by gangs. because of that bill we had a 25-year low in crime, a 33-year low murder rate. and listen to this. because of that and the background check law we had a 46-year low in the deaths of people by gun violence. and who do you think those lives were? that mattered. whose lives were saved that mattered? i don't know how you would characterize the gang leaders who got 13-year-old kids hopped up on crack and sent them out on to the street to murder other african-american children. maybe you thought they were good citizens. she didn't. she didn't. you are defending the people who killed the lives you say matter. >> that was a hint of the heat. in addition to that confrontation, bernie sanders and hillary clinton trading punches over who was qualified to be president. donald trump trying to lay a little new york muscle on ted cruz and senator cruz tonight
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not backing down from his remarks about new york values. one thing is clear. this is no pillow fight. the new york primary fast approaching and pennsylvania campaign tensions are spilling out into the open. first tonight the dueling democrats. cnn's joe johns. >> reporter: tonight brs is sharpening his attacks on hillary clinton as the democratic race intensifies. >> i'll not be hustling money from the wealthy and powerful. >> reporter: sanders is not backing down from a fight he insists clinton started. >> i'm not going to get beaten up. i'm not going to get lied about. we will fight back. >> reporter: tensions coming to a boil with sanders offering a blistering attack of clinton thursday night. >> let me just say in response to hillary clinton, i don't believe that she is qualified. if she is through her superpac taking tens of millions of
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dollars in special interest loans. i don't think you are qualified if you have voted for the disastrous war in iraq. >> reporter: clinton today brushing off the criticism from her rival. >> well, it's kind of a silly thing to say, but i'm going to trust the voters of new york who know me and have voted for me three times, twice for senate, once in the presidential primary. >> reporter: both campaigns are looking to leverage the back and forth sending out fund-raising e-mails to supporters. the clinton team calling sanders' remarks a ridiculous and irresponsible attack. the sanders campaign accusing the clinton camp of getting nervous and launching a full-on attack before the new york primary. ahead of the april 19th contest in her adopted home state, clinton today focused on her connections to new york. >> i am so proud to have represented this state for eight years. i'm a proud new yorker and i want to be a good president for
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new york and for the rest of our country. >> reporter: engaging in some retail politics, riding the new york subway for two stops. >> some people need to get off? >> reporter: along the way, she took a swipe at sanders for incorrectly referring to the subway fare as tokens. >> i think we changed when i was senator. i think it was my first term when we changed from tokens to mess row cards. >> reporter: joe johns, cnn, philadelphia. >> this is just ordinary jostling for position or the sign of something deeper. joining us van jones and bakari sellers. bakari is a clinton supporter and former south carolina state lawmaker. also sanders supporter jonathan tacini. we should also mention ten years ago he challenged hillary clinton in the primary contest for her senate seat here in new york. van, today we've heard from all kinds of senators, all kinds of high-profile democrats looking
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at this race over the last 24 hours going, whoa, wait a second here. the back and forth now, this is the kind of thing that leaves a mark on whoever the potential nominee is. what do you make of it? >> i'm about to join the green party. this is just ridiculous. i've spent most of this time disgusted by the republicans. now i'm disappointed with the democrats. all these top democrats have been terrible today. hillary clinton on the one hand looks great out there kissing the babies but she's doing the stuff everybody hates. she kind of started this fight in a slick way and then pretends she's not in the fight. that's not good. then bernie sanders, totally overreacting saying she's unqualified. that's silly to the border of stupid and offensive to her as a woman. and then bill clinton is out here getting the black lives matter people riled up. black lives matter has mainly stayed out of this. bill clinton is about to pull them into this. all the democrats need a nap, need some sleep and calm down.
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>> bakari, van clearly thinks this campaign, the democratic race, crossed the line over the last 24 hours. the flip side is both candidates want to win here. isn't part of winning beating the other candidate in the rairx and isn't this just part of it? >> we have to look back at last may when bernie sanders announced his campaign. he said this wasn't going to be about brss bernie sanders and hy clinton. it's going to be about issues. whether you are talking about on sunday when he flubbed the response on releasing his tax returns. whether it was his new york daily news article or questioning the first lady and -- >> but bakari, that tough week included a huge win in wisconsin. >> it was a huge win in wisconsin, but he made -- >> i can tomorrow very well, but he made up ten delegates in the overall scheme of things. the math is the maths. that adds to it. and today this coming out or last night coming out and saying that the secretary is unqual fid. i mean, i agree with van. that was border line stupid.
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we are at this point. by contrast to the republican party, we are still having a pillow fight over here. this campaign has taken a turn and the tenor has become negative. most of that lands on the shoulders of bernie sanders. >> jonjonathan, i'm sure you fe differently. it isn't just the candidates doing this. the campaign staffs have been doing it even harsher. bernie sanders campaign manager went on tv and said some things about secretary clinton on cnn earlier this morning. listen. >> i think if you look at her record, if you look at her campaign, her campaign is funded by millions and millions of dollars from wall street and other special interest. she's made a deal with the devil. the devil wants his money in the end. that's the kind of campaign she's running. she supported these terrible trade deals which have devastated american manufacturing in this country. she supported the war in iraq. she continues to have a hawkish foreign policy, which has led to the rise and expansion of isis
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throughout the middle east. >> a deal with the devil and a foreign policy that led to the rise of isis. those are the times of claims that van was just saying are way over the line. the clinton campaign says the sanders campaign needs to take a time-out. do they? >> let me start, first of all, with a positive and agree with my friends over there, van and bakari. van is right. the clinton campaign started this by alleging bernie was unqualified. the press -- >> that's false. that's not true. >> hang on, bakari. >> you had your chance. chill out. and i agree with bakari. compared to the republicans, it's relatively a pillow fight. john, there's some context here. bernie has defined this race. he's defined this race by talking about inequality, about the billionaires, about wall street destroying the economy, about a war in iraq that was immoral and illegal, about bad trade deals. hillary clinton is now fraudulently and has fraudulently run a campaign from the beginning trying to morph
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from a moderate corporate democrat into a progressive, which she hasn't been able to sell. the second thing that's happened is from the very begin, and i don't have a lot of time to tell you every single one, the clinton campaign has lied repeatedly about bernie's positions. i'll give you one very quick one. this was related by polit fact as mostly fast when chelsea clinton and hillary went out and lied about bernie's position about health care saying single payer meds care for all would destroy the affordable care act. the reason they have to do this is because bernie has caught fire. 7 out of the last 8 contests, he now lead nationally in a number of polls. and i, like jeff weaver, believe at the end of the day we'll pass her in pledge delegates, and they can't stand that idea. >> i want to give bakari a few seconds. but please leave van time to admonish both of you. bakari, you first. >> i will leave time for van.
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but i think jonathan started out with what "the washington post" deemed to be a lie and no point did hillary clinton say that bernie sanders was unqualified. she took the high road today -- >> that's not true. >> that actually is -- >> that's not true. >> that is -- >> that's not true. >> kids, kids, please. >> but -- thank you, van. my last point is the math is the math and bernie sanders has done very well in the last seven out of the last eight states. the delegate count, the pledge delegate count is what matters. hillary clinton is going into the convention with the most pledged delegates. this has been a negative campaign the last few days because bernie sanders' campaign has turned into one of desperation. >> no, it's because your campaign -- >> hang on. bakari -- hang on, jonathan. >> not you barks car r, bakari, clinton campaign has lied about every one of bernie's positions. >> has the clinton campaign lied
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about every one of bernie's positions? van jones, go ahead. >> i'm going to say a couple of things here. guys, this is the biggest stage in the world, new york city. this is the biggest campaign. >> we're going to win. >> hold on. i'm talking. >> okay. >> we need to be talking about the issues. i understand everybody is tired. everybody is frustrated. hillary clinton did start this. she did it in a slick way, but she started it. bernie did overreact. can we please tomorrow morning get back to talking about the issues? the whole world is watching and democrats only looking one shade better than the republicans is bad for everybody. >> living proof here. jonathan, this is proof, i think, of where the democratic campaign is right now. proof, perhaps, of what the next week and a half will look like in this race leading up to the new york primary. van jones, bakari sellers and jonathan. we have breaking news on the republican side, the side these men claim was worse than what they did. what happens when ted cruz gets a chance to apologize for his
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breaking news tonight in a culture clash, the likes of which we've not seen since crocodile dundee landed at the plaza. it's happening on day two for ted cruz in a city he doesn't seem to like that much, its values, except as an attack line to use on donald trump. an attack line that he is not apologizing for, even as a guest in the city in question. that is the breaking news. this is the background. after a lukewarm reseptsion in the bronx yesterday, senator cruz tried brooklyn helping children make matzo at a bakery near coney island. this is the political beef which first erupted at the south carolina republican debate. >> senator cruz, you suggested mr. trump, quote, embodies new york values. could you explain what you mean by that? >> i think most people know exactly what new york values are. >> i am from new york. >> you're from new york so you
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might not, but i promise you the state of south carolina, they do. >> despite that, south carolinians went overwhelmingly for trump and now stinging from his wisconsin defeat, trump is wasting no time resurrecting that attack line to fire up his own hometown followers. >> do you remember -- do you remember -- do you remember during the debate when he started lecturing me on new york values like we're no good? like we're no good. and i started talking to him about the world trade center, the bravery, and i've got this guy standing over there looking at me, talking about new york values with scorn in his face with hatred -- with hatred of new york. so folks, i think you can forget
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about him. forget about him. >> the "new york daily news" has not forgotten about him. the front page summarizing senator cruz's reception in the bronx. just a short time ago, dana bash asked ted cruz about this controversy. >> any regrets in using that terminology, now that you're asking for new york voters to vote for you? >> not remotely because everyone in new york and outside of new york knows exactly what i meant by that. and it is the liberal values of democratic politicians who have been hammering the people of new york for decades. >> all right. he's not backing down, not one bit. how are new york voters taking it? here's cnn's richard roth. >> reporter: ted cruz drew applause arriving in brooklyn a day after receiving a bronx cheer in a different borough of the city where he was jeered. he liked the taste of matzo
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baking in a brooklyn school but many new yorkers aren't ready to break bread with him. the day began with a welcome to new york by the hometown newspaper the daily news which told him to take the fu train, ted. so we went to the "f" train. today's headline, take the f-u train, ted. it's aimed at ted cruz. what do you think? >> oh, that's priceless. >> that's pretty ugly thing to say. >> that's awesome. >> rude. >> anybody ever told you f-u on the streets of new york? >> probably. >> absolutely. >> what do you think of this headline? >> cruz has been dogged for months by his sharp criticism of new york values. he has to campaign here in the new york primary but hasn't stopped taking a bite out of the apple. >> he's a creep. he's a creep. >> everybody loves new york. it's the land of opportunity. >> i'm walking here! i'm walking here!
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>> reporter: "midnight cowboy" featured values that cruz, a texas senator, would not approve of when they were willing to stop, i asked new yorkers just what new york values meant to them? >> hustling, grinding, making money, coming up with the american dream. that's what's i think about the new york mind-set. >> you can't judge an entire culture or city by one personality. >> i don't want him to be president. >> how about the mayor of new york? >> i don't want him involved close to me. >> reporter: but outside of new york city upstate, cruz was highly valued. >> ted shares my values as an upstate new yorker. ted was referring to a very different set of values held by primarily down state. >> i love new york city to visit, but i don't care for their values as much. >> reporter: in brighton beach, a group of orthodox jews disagreed with the negative cruz lashing elsewhere in new york. >> they're uneducated.
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anybody uneducated about this campaign is voting for ted cruz. >> reporter: cruz wasn't flipped off by the headline and made sure not to drop the matzo. richard roth, cnn, new york. >> never drop the matzo. joining me now kayleigh mcenany who supports donald trump, sara setmayer, former communications director for dana rohrbacher. and maggie haberman. you are a new yorker and you've lived in new york for a long time. you've also covered a lot of campaigns here. give me a sense of whether this new york values thing, how much it will hurt him. certainly looks like it hurts him here in the city. >> i thought the voters in the last piece had it right. upstate this is not going to hurt ted cruz at all. there are certain areas outside of new york city where new york city is not viewed particularly well. and ted cruz lobbed that missile at donald trump in that debate. this was about the city.
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however, it was completely predictable what the reaction was going to be and ted cruz has been here two days seekingment is from people in this city and it's hard to say, well, actually, i was just commenting on the way the politicians have abused new york. most new yorkers didn't hear it that way. he served a softball to donald trump both in that debate and one trump used at his rally last night which is new york suffered enormously september 11th, 2001, and we saw the grit and determination of new york come back from that. you'll hear that over and over. not just from trump but hillary clinton, too. >> and tara, what about the tri-state. represent the tri-state here. there's also a primary in new jersey coming up and connecticut. i imagine that they may look and see what's happening here, too. >> as a proud jersey girl, i think it was a huge mistake by cruz to double down on the new york values thing. if he said the liberal values of new york or, you know, if he qualified it in a different way, maybe he could have gotten away
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with it. in upstate new york, there's -- it's like two different places compared to new york city. it will play better. but it just -- people love new york city. people love the grit, the toughness, new york is the greatest city in the world. when you attack -- coming from a guy from texas attacking new york, i don't think that was wise on the part of ted cruz when you have in the tri-state area. new jersey, connecticut, the tri-state area, we all kind of share that same toughness and those values that potentially will not help him in another states like connecticut and new jersey. so i don't know that it was a great idea for ted cruz to double down on that. he's playing tune audience outside of here. but it's here he's campaigning now. he could have done better. >> this could be the type of thing donald trump could have capitalized on on the campaign trail had he been on the campaign trail today. >> he's going to capitalize on it for the next 12 days. this will be hammered home time and time again. this guy categorically dismissed you. your values, what you stand for.
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and let's be clear. ted cruz is trying to say now he meant liberal values. if you mean liberal values you say liberal values. he specifically said new york values. he had a political calculus in mind. it was, i don't need new york. i don't need the whole northeast. i'm bacnking on the southeast. now that he needs the northeast he all of a sudden meant liberal values. >> kasich went to the bronx and ate italian food. he's saying he has a new york appetite if not new york values. >> i hope he didn't use a knife and fork to eat pizza again. >> his superpac is also running an ad on the new york values thing on ted cruz. >> it's a powerful ad. everyone is capitalizing on this with ted cruz. and john kasich is polling second. he's behind donald trump. real clear politics average is 25%, 21%, 25%. john kasich may be the buffer
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that stops donald trump from getting that 50% threshhold here. wouldn't that be ironic. everyone is counting out kasich but kasich polls very well in the northeast. >> you know all 27 intimately. but will this make a dent or will kasich bible to make a dent in the delegate hunt up state? >> i think you have cruz and kasich banking on the idea of keeping trump below fis50% and n you end in the delegate hunt. it's 12 per cd. there are going to be areas where both cruz and kasich are going to do well. the problem for cruz, and i wrote about this today, is he's a poor fit for the state in a lot of ways. the state's republican party tends to break down more socio economic lines and less along religious lines. cruz has fashioned himself as an evangelical statement. that's why he made that's statement in south carolina.
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he'sed me assumptions about the race that have been shorter term as opposed to how this race played out long term which few of us knew, to be fair to him. but the goal is keep trump below 50%. to your point every day trump is off the campaign trail is the day his voters are not seeing him. he had a tremendous reception last night in long island. that's his because. >> we're going to talk about that in a moment. stand by. the trump campaign has a plan to drum up delegate s with some strategic reshuffling in their inner circle. we'll talk about that's. and i'll speak with a trump senior adviser when "360" continues. "now my boyfriend wants to talk on sundays. just so many words." your boyfriend's got it bad. maybe think about being single until the start of the season. ranking from top to bottom. company of the year? luxury cars just seem like they would be top awarded.
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senior adviser barry bennett just a short time ago. barry, we've been told this is not a campaign shake-up. so what exactly is it? >> as campaigns go along, they become bigger every day. and they are required to do more things. when it comes to convention and delegates and rnc and washington outreach, when paul agreed to come on it was a perfect fit to the feneed. >> isn't it a hunt for delegates now? isn't that what the campaign is about? he's in charge of hunting for delegates, isn't he in charge of the campaign effectively? >> still earning another 900 delegates. so we're doing both simultaneously. >> one other question, donald trump, where the heck is he? because he's not on the campaign trail today. he was going to have an event in california tomorrow. that's been cancelled. he's not campaigning. there's an election in new york in less than two weeks. shouldn't he be on the trail? >> we're going to do new york,
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new york, new york. not only is it home but some of the states coming right behind us -- pennsylvania, new jersey, connecticut -- they are all watching the new york media as well. so we'll do a lot of campaigning in new york. >> why didn't you do it today? he could have gone out his front door. shook some hands and that would have been campaigning in new york. didn't do anything today, not tomorrow or saturday. >> a lot of internal meetings today and some tomorrow. >> that's what he's doing, meeting behind closed doors? >> yeah. >> any additional add-ones to the campaign besides paul manafort. we could see adds in communication and policy? >> i think it's fair to expect there will be quite a few over the next few weeks tofu months. as you get closer, there's a lot of work to be done that involves the convention let alone what's we've been doing, earning delegates every day. then we have to get ready for a general, too. a lot of work. a lot of people coming on board. >> we have been told there will be a series of policy speeches
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in this two-week period leading up to new york. part of the goal there was to put more meat on the bone. is that an acknowledgment that there hasn't been meat on the bone when it comes to policy? >> you can always put more meat on the bone and flush things out further. the important thing is to do it in the right setting in the right way. it's hard. it sounds crazy but it's hard to find a setting where you can talk to voters. and so i think that's what they are looking for. >> what's the next policy speech we can expect to hear from mr. trump? >> the announcement is coming soon. >> it is coming soon? >> care to give us any teasers? >> i just did. >> before new york? >> i don't know. i hope so. >> barry bennett, thanks so much. back with tara setmayer, kayleigh mcenany and maggie haberman. you have news about someone who announced he is voting for donald trump in new york yet not endorsing him. rudy giuliani. what's going on? >> setting off my twitter mentions again.
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a couple of things. giuliani has been a friend of donald trump's for 30 years and talked about that when i spoke to him. he's been uncharacteristically quiet the last couple of days. he was clear he's voting for trump and in his mind voting and supporting are the same but this was not a formal endorsement. he plans to be a convention delegate. supposed to be or expected to be put on by the manhattan gop chair and believes he can have more sway on the convention floor if there's an open or contested convention. the practicality of that is what you're not going to see and this is my read on it, you're not going to see him be someone like a chris christie or ben carson where we saw massive roll-outs essentially. big press conferences. and they are very frequently deployed surrogates where that is largely what they do at this point in time. i n't think you'll see giuliani do that. he'll be traveling right up until the day of the primary. it allows trump to say he was
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supported by giuliani whose support he's sought for a while. but if you look at it, it does give giuliani some distance, whether that's realistic or not when you say i'm supporting someone, i'm voting for them but i'm not endorsing them. that's for others to decide. this is similar to what happened with sandoval in florida with marco rubio. that's what's happening here. >> all right, tara, i want to talk about the campaign machinations inside trump world. he knows conventions and delegates and has been doing this since 1976. so a good addition, smart addition by the trump team? >> i think it was a necessary addition. the reality of the fact they've had no infrastructure up until this point. they definitely are behind the curve on accumulating delegates and -- not accumulating, but working the delegates and how that process works. i don't think they thought they were going to get this far. now they are where they are and it's looking like it's going to be an open convention, you have to be able to know and play by
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the rules of the game. these are the rules that have been set forth. they've been in place for 160 years. they hired someone who knows what the rule is and how to do it. they are also looking at a couple of other things. this was a terrible, not just week but month for donald trump. so they needed to get some adults in the room. the corey lewandowski incident was not helpful for the trump campaign. he's clearly in over his head and they need to bring someone in, an adult in the room. and trump's negatives are going up. last month he had a 60% unfafrable. an ap poll came out and showed he had an unfavorable rating nationally. those are horrible numbers for a front-runner. they need to get it together if they'll overcome the delegate issue and have a serious campaign, which i doubt. >> kayleigh, you've been supportive of these additions to the campaign right now. do you think we'll see a different donald? barry bennett said we have policy speeches coming up. >> we'll see more of a trump like we saw at aipac, seriously
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focused on policy, mature rounded out policy positions. i definitely think we'll see another donald trump. and as for the delegate addition, this was much needed. exciting to hear about. every week we hear story after story of louisiana, the delegates that are purportedly representing trump aren't trump people and we heard it in south carolina. it's pivotal that when donald trump goes to the convention, i think he'll have 1,237, but lease say he does not, it's pivotal that the people supporting donald trump are actually supporting donald trump on the second ballot as well. >> can i ask -- ben carson came on the show earlier with me and said maybe i've been charged with a crime before. leave that aside. he also refused to say there aren't maybe better candidates or better people out there than donald trump to be president. is ben carson the surrogate domd trump needs? >> we'd rather have a surrogate out there. i love ben carson being on the
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team in any capacity is a huge thing. having an evangelical christian say -- >> ben carson has been a disaster for the trump campaign. oh, well, if he wins it's only four years. there's probably a better candidate than donald trump. i mean, ben carson, you know, believe me, kayleigh is trying to put a positive spin but he's been an absolute disaster when it comes to being a surrogate. >> i appreciate it, kayleigh, tara, maggie. ted -- donald trump picks up another endorsement. also, new video of the suspect wanted from the airport bombings in brussels as he flees the seine and seems to take a stroll around the city for hours. we can help guide your retirement savings. so wherever your retirement journey takes you, we can help you reach your goals. call us or your advisor t. rowe price. invest with confidence.
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more on ted cruz's fight for the republican nomination. he picked up another endorsement if you want to call it that. watch this exchange wolf blitzer had with jim rich. >> so far your only, i think, by our count, the third senator -- republican senator who now effectively on this program has come out and endorsed cruz.
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lindsey graham and mike lee your colleagues. they have. but i haven't seen a whole -- >> did i just endorse? >> you said you prefer him over -- >> i do. >> that sounds like an endorsement. >> i guess it depends on your definition. >> ouch. with friends like that, here's manu raju. >> reporter: ted cruz said the gop is rallying behind him. >> you are looking at the entire spectrum of the republican party, the entire ideological spectrum coming together and uniting. >> reporter: but one influential group is still holding out. his fellow republican senators. >> i think it's difficult for many senators to be supportive of him. if we're going to save this country, it's going to be in the senate. i would think most people would wish that he'd take the senate more seriously. >> reporter: many gop senators dislike cruz after two years of bitter infighting. they say he's engaged in divisive tactics to bolster his profile. most notably a 16-day government
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shutdown in 2013 after demanding republican support to defund obamacare. >> and the republicans in this body, sadly, more than a few of them, say we will take lots and lots of symbolic votes against obamacare. but there's nothing we can do. >> reporter: the tough talk has made cruz beloved by conservative activists frustraitted with party leaders. but in the capitol, it's come at a price as cruz looks for unity against donald trump. >> well, i think it's made it a little more difficult for him to round up support. >> reporter: on the campaign trail, cruz has called his colleagues part of a corrupt washington cartel. and he took the unusual step last year of taking to the senate floor and accusing majority leader mitch mcconnell of being a liar. >> i cannot believe he would tell a flat-out lie. >> reporter: many still think he went too far. >> i don't think it went over very well with mcconnell. >> reporter: some say it's time for cruz to apologize.
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>> i stood up and said he should. i think that was the wrong thing to do. >> reporter: yet cruz quietly illicitted phil gramm to do some damage control. gramm says ted called me and asked me to help him build a working relationship with the leadership of the house and senate. freshman dan sullivan of alaska may soon endorse him. but senator lindsey graham, a longtime critic and now cruz supporter suggests the texas freshman needs to do more. >> ted would be well served to reach out to his colleagues. the more support he gets from across the spectrum of the republican party. >> reporter: and will marco rubio support him? >> i haven't even thought about the presidential race at all. >> not sure i believe that. >> manu raju joins us. any converts from the senate expected? >> we know that he and phil
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graham have both started to make some calls to senate republicans, including to montana senator steve dans. the state votes in june. they traded voice mails. he and cruz did. senate republicans don't want to get into the middle of this nasty fight and anger donald trump supporters back home. but cruz made very clear that he wouldn't actually apologize to mitch mcconnell. earlier today he told dana bash it ain't going to happen. phil gramm advised cruz not to have any peace-making meeting at the capitol at this point. when i asked phil gramm about cruz calling mcconnell a liar, he said, quote, sometimes even smart people do dumb thijs. >> manu raju, thanks. in just a few minutes, the next episode of the cnn series "the eighties." that's at 9:00 eastern right here. right now the latest on some other stories. amra walker has the 360 news and business bulletin.
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>> belgian officials released new video of the suspect in the hat as he escaped after the brussels airport bombings last month. the new images are from about two hours of surveillance video. the unnamed suspect took off his jacket at one point and investigators are asking anyone who saw him to contact police. in an interview with cnn affiliate itv news, british prime minister david cameron admits he profited from his late father's offshore investment which was revealed in the panama papers league but he said he paid the appropriate taxes and has nothing to hide. a touching tribute to a fallen canine in las vegas. other police dogs barking their good-byes at a funeral for one of their own. the dog was killed last month while helping officer apprehend a double murder suspect. john? >> amara, thanks. coming up, with her new book just out, anderson and his mother gloria vanderbilt sit down to talk about their lives
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book out called "the rainbow comes and goes, a mother and son on life, love and lost." it's a conversation that anderson wanted to start with his mother discussing what matters to them and what they still wanted to learn about each other. they are also featured in a new documentary on hbo airing this weekend called "nothing left unsaid." they sat down in a discussion at cnn. they talked about a custody battle when ms. vanderbilt was just 10 years old. >> during the trial it was revealed your mother was a lesbian or bisexual. >> you have to realize this was 1934. i didn't -- i had no idea what that meant. it was something in 1934 that was considered a crime. and when the custody trial happened, my mother's maid said she'd seen my mother making out with a woman. >> it was a scandal.
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>> terrible scandal. just terrible. and it's hard for us, you know, today at this -- in this time, you know, 2016, to think that the public would have that kind of reaction. because, of course, today it's inconceivable. >> when i told you i was gay when i was in college, part of me knew that this happened to your mother, and i wasn't sure how -- i knew it had impacted you in a very strong way. >> it did because, first of all, because it was something that was considered so terrible, i thought that maybe i had inherited it. >> that you would be gay yourself? >> and that i would be gay and that it would be something that would be -- that i would be ostracized and sort of, you know, as an unworthy person. and it was a terrible kind of
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shock to me to think that i had that blood inside of me, you know? and, i mean, it took me a long, long time to, you know, to work things out and to make sense of what had happened. >> and what was it that finally made you feel that there's no difference between being gay or -- >> well, my intelligence, for one thing. but as i grew older and came to be friends with, you know, truman capote and jose cantera who was a dear friend of mine and who had a husband. i mean, they were a couple. >> i remember when i was like 11, jose, a famous theater director, was coming over with
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his partner whose name was nick. i remember asking about them. and you says to me, well, they are a married couple. this was 1979 which most americans didn't think of them as a maerd couple or any gay people as being married and you did. i remember being 11 and thinking, oh, because i knew i was gay then and i thought, ultimately when i tell her, she'll be okay with it because this is what's in her heart. >> i came to know that love is love, and it is absolutely no difference at all. there just isn't. >> you said to me from time to time you wish you were a lesbian. >> i am not kidding. i really would have made -- >> you would have made a great lesbian? >> because all of my, first of all, i understand women. men are still kind of a mystery to me. i respect women enormously. i have very close women friends, although we're not lovers.
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>> you just weren't attracted to women that way? >> no. >> you didn't have any luck? >> i didn't have any luck. >> the conversation continues tomorrow. their new book "the rainbow comes and goes" is available now. here's the plan. you want a family and a career, but most of the time you feel like you're trying to wrangle a hurricane. the rest of the time, they're asleep. then one day, hr schedules a meeting with you out of the blue. and it's the worst 19 minutes of your career. but you don't sweat it because you and your advisor have prepared for this. and when the best offer means you're moving to the middle of nowhere, the boys say they hate the idea. but you pretend it's not so bad.
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