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jean casarez, thank you very much for that report. thank you so much for watching "legal view" on this friday. great to have you with us. "wolf" starts now. secretary clinton have the experience and intelligence to be president, of course she does. but i do question her judgment. >> the people of new york voted for me twice. president obama trusted my judgment enough to ask me to be secretary of state for the united states. i've supported the fight for 15. >> i'm sure a lot of people are surprised to learn that you supported raising the minimum twiej 15 bucks an hour. >> wait a minute, wait a minute. wait, wait. >> it is not accurate. >> i have stood on the debate stage with senator sanders eight
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prior times. >> excuse me, if -- >> if you are both screaming at each other, the viewers won't be able to hear either of you. >> i've gotten more votes than anyone running, 9.6 million at the last count. >> we're going to win here in new york. thank you! >>. [ chanting bernie! ] >> hello, i'm wolf blitzer in washington. wherever you are watching from around the world, thank you very much for joining us. it's the day after the big debate. the campaigns are doing damage control after a rather contentious back and forth between the two democratic candidates for president of the united states. as for the candidates themselves, hillary clinton stopped at a senior center in east harlem new york. but later heads to california for a fund-raiser that includes george clooney. bernie sanders is not in new york today. he is at the vatican for a
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conference. he spoke about climate change and the need for a moral econom >> at a time when so few have so much, and so many have so little, we must reject the foundations of this contemporary economy as immoral and unsustainable. >> senator sanders is not expected to meet with the pope while he's in rome. meanwhile, here's the latest poll ahead of tuesday's primary, the "wall street journal"/nbc news maris poll has president clinton holding a 17 point lead over sanders. you see it there. here's where the race stands on the delegate count. secretary clinton talked about her lead in pledgeds. she leads by 229 pledge delegates and has more super delegates as you can see in the chart. let's talk about the debate, the tone, the issues and a lot more.
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joining us from new york is senior media adviser for the bernie sanders campaign. thank you very much for joining us. quickly explain why bernie sanders decided to go to the vatican today, crucial day before the new york primary on tuesday instead of campaigning in new york? >> well, wolf, he was delighted to receive the invitation of the pontiffical academy of social sciences and uchbd it would be an opportunity to talk about an issue he cares deeply about, the issue of income, wealth and he is an admirer of pope's francis an the message on the issue of moral economy and the pope's commitment to dealing with another issue that bernie cares about which is how to tackle climate change. yes, he was out of state for one day but will be back tomorrow and will campaign hard through the primary here on tuesday. we think he is close strong elsewhere and will close strong in new york. >> it doesn't suggest to you or 0 to your colleagues that he is basically -- the suspicion is
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he's given up on new york, given hillary clinton's impressive lead in the polls. >> far from it. we will fight for every vote. she has great advantages in her home state. she has significant lead in the polling and it is more difficult when you compete in systems where independents are not allowed to vote. we get that. bernie will work hard. we will have an event tomorrow. we will be here on sunday and we will campaign for votes and i think we close strongly elsewhere. i think we can close strongly here, as well. >> as you know, senator sanders promised to release his 2014 tax return today. when will he do that. >> later this afternoon the campaign will release those returns. >> what about earlier years? i understand he wants to do that but they are not going to be released today. when will the earlier years be returned? >> i hope soon. literally jane sanders who does the income taxes in their family is going to finish them. hopefully before the deadline
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and that will be released and we will look back. bernie is happy to be transparent. i think when people see his tax returns. by the way, he's had -- a disclosure as a member of the united states senate, financial disclosure as candidate for president. it is not like there's been no opportunity to look at his personal finances. in addition to that, in the sake of transparency he will release back taxes, as well. we nope that spirit, senator clinton would join in and release the transcripts of the paid speeches she gave to banks like goldman sachs and the board of directors of verizon. we'd like to see what's in the speeches. >> there's other contentious exchanges as we know last night in the debate in brooklyn on israel and guns. senator sanders voted to shield gun manufacturers and owners from understand definites like sandy hook and defends the right to sue. should they be able to sue manufacturers or not?
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>> well, wolf, that case involving those families, i believe yesterday gid did move forward in the courts. bernie believes that if there are bad actors in the process, whether they are gun sellers, manufactures they should be held accountable. he signed on a piece of legislation that is in the congress today that would provide that opportunity. he has in the past supported other bills. he did so because a member from vermont, you know, a lot of small gun shops in his state felt they would be impacted adversely by that and the bill contained some positive messages, as well. the characterization of bernie sanders as being terrible or a stooge of the gun lobby, which is what the clinton is arguing couldn't be more wrong. he has a d-minus lifetime rating from the nra. he lost his first race for congress because he stood up and said he would support a ban on assault weapons and he supported the president's agenda on gun violence across the board. this is a gross mischaracterization of his
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record. for the most part he has been strong and that's why the nra itself says bernie sanders is no friend of the nra. >> you have been involved in democratic politics for a long time. were you surprised how tough senator sanders was on the israeli government last night? that debate, in criticizing the israeli response to the hamas rocket attacks coming in from gaza during the war in 2014? >> no, i was not surprised because i've heard bernie say that before. i think he made it clear last night that he, as president, would stand shoulder to shoulder with our strongest ally in the middle east, the nation of israel, the only democracy there. he has made it very clear that his own personal experiences, including living -- when he was a young man have given him insight to the security of a small nation like israel surrounded by so many enemies. bernie sanders is prepared to stand shoulder to shoulder with them. he will also have a unique opportunity as president of the
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united states, to move forward in a quest for peace in the middle east. it has been a difficult challenge. secretary kerr riff has been a tremendous force in attempting to do this and even when you put everything in it to it has unfortunately been stymied. bernie is honest and straightforward on his views on this and others. he will not change his views even if it means not winning as many votes as he otherwise may have. >> thank you for joining us. >> thank you, wolf. >> let's talk about the clinton campaign. the reaction some of the points in last night's cnn democratic debate, new york congressman gregory meeks is joining us, a hillary clinton supporter. thank you for joining us. >> good to be with you, wolf. >> you think hillary clinton will win overwhelmingly, i assume in new york based on the polls, right? >> we're going to work hard. polls are polls. i know this weekend i will be back home working hard. hillary is working hard. taking no vote for granted. >> it is possible he could stun
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her and you and win in new york? >> i don't think so. i think new york knows hillary. she was our senator for eight years. she did a great job. we re-elected her overwhelmingly. we were happy she offered to become the secretary of state. we were sad to lose a great senator. >> the a 1994 crime bill signed in to law by bill clinton she said shi she is sorry for the unintended consequences of the bill how it impacted minoritities and african-american young men. is that good enough? you say it was a mistake to vote. she didn't vote, to support that legislation. >> what you said is right. only one of the two candidates had a vote. if anyone should apologize. >> because he was a congressman. >> she was the first lady. >> we should be talking to bernie sanders about apologizing for his vote. hillary clinton didn't have a vote? >> you think bernie sanders should apologize. >> they talk about 1994 as if it
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were hillary's responsibility. if he thinks it is a bad vote it is bad judgment on his part. we have to take the whole thing in to context. what is taking place in 1994, exorbitant crime rate and stuff going on. now we see bills, i don't know of any bill that comes out of congress that is perfect an there are sometimes unintended consequences. and hillary said there are unintended consequences and we have to fix them. her first statement when she declared for president is fixing the criminal justice system. >> you heard senator sanders say her use of the word way back, the word super predators. he said that, referring to the crime bill, he said that was, in his words, obviously racist on her part. the use of that phrase super predator. do you agree? >> absolutely not. if you think of the clintons and the clinton administration in the '90ss, there's a reason why 88% in 1996 voted for bill
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clinton. a if they thought he was a racist, don't tell me that you think african-americans aren't smart enough to vote for someone who has their interest. there's a reason why toni morrison said that bill clinton was the first black president. no way should you ever classify or should anyone think the clintons ever thought of african-americans in a racist manner. the fact of the matter is, in the same time period, if you look at the economics that senator sanders talks about all the time, that was a one when income disparity was declining. there is no way, no how, no stretch of the imagination that one could use to say the clintons were racists. >> very empassioned on this. let's talk about guns in new york city. she made a controversial statement and senator sanders went after her.
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the other day she said most of the guns used in guns and crimes of violence and killings come from out of state and the state that has the highest number per capita of those guns come from vermont. was that an accurate statement from her perspective? there's a lot of fact checking and only a tiny number of guns used to commit crimes in new york come from vermont. >> as he said last night and as your fact checkers said on cnn, most of the guns come from outside of new york from states that are lax on gun control. >> there are a lot of other states that are lax from your perspective, bigger states than vermont. >> that's true. there's no way to track, and your fact checkers said they couldn't say true or false. their answer was, which i agree on that, it is complicated. that's the best answer to that. it is clear, though, that if you look at the laws in vermont with reference to guns as compared to
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the laws in new york state there's substantial difference, and that senator sanders has voted to delay gun background checks which is for the nra. the nra praised him for sticking up for their biggest bill. he talked about '88. clearly he got elected in 1990. he must have given them what they needed because they said their biggest bill was about to come out and he voted to stop the background checks and the time limitations that they needed at that time. >> thank you. >> good to be with you. >> thank you very much. gregory meeks of new york. we have both party chairs live this hour, as well. the republican kmshl committee chair, reince priebus and debbie wasserman schultz will be joining me for separate one on one interviews.
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another major earthquake just hit japan. 7.0 quake. this time we are gathering information that is coming in. we will bring you much more after this. you do all this research on a perfect car then smash it into a tree. your insurance company raises your rates. maybe you should have done more research on them. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. just one of the many features that comes standard with our base policy. call
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breaking news in to cnn. a major earthquake has hit japan again. this is in the same region where a 6.2 quake hit late thursday. that according to the u.s. geological survey. a tsunami adviser has been issued for parts of japan. disturbing developments coming in. we will get more information, update you. karen maginnis is standing by. what do we nobt 'about the magnitude 7.0 quake that just hit japan? >> what we understand, wolf, is that yesterday the earthquake that we saw then, that were also fatality earthquake related, now we are looking at this is probably the earthquake. the others were foreshocks, meaning they were leading up to
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this 7.0 magnitude earthquake. it has been revised. but what makes it especially dangerous is this is only ten kilometers deep. six miles deep. this is in a heavily, densely populated area. the closest largest city is nagasaki. this is in kumamoto. but also felt in tokyo. it is more densely populated in tokyo and ten kilometers deep. heavily populated area and we are looking at potential for a catastrophic infrastructure damage. there you can see the video beside us as to what happened. there's a tsunami warning that has been issued very dramatic pictures that we are looking at out of southern japan. >> to be precise, the other day's, the thursday 6.2
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magnitude quake struck japan. this is a 7.0. that was a -- this is not an aftershock, as they call it. that was a preliminary -- what was the phrase you used as far as the earlier 6.2? >> they are referred to as foreshocks, something leading up to the primary earthquake. 7.0. just about 30 minutes ago, we were saying 7.1. usgs said 7.1 magnitude. i think we need to focus less on what the magnitude of this is -- certainly that is critical but the fact it is so shallow -- i was speaking with cnn international and they were interested in the description of what a shallow earthquake means. it would be like if you were sitting on a bed and someone is shaking the top of the bed you would definitely feel that more significantly than if someone were under the bed shaking it. the deeper you go, if you have
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more substantial earthquake, you would definitely feel the impact of that but this is also a densely populated area. highly developed. we're looking at the potential for devastating damage to infrastructure across this region. ten kilometers deep, six miles deep, the equivalent and that is especially considered a shallow earthquake. you see a lot of south american earthquakes, very notorious area where they have significant earthquakes. a lot of those are 30 kilometers deep or 18 or 19 miles deep or maybe 40 kilometers deep. that's substantial. the fact we have this substantial earthquake, a major earthquake, 7.0, at ten kilometers deep and you can see the damage already. some of the pictures we are getting, associated with this earthquake that happened within the last hour or to hour and a half, wolf, this is significant.
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as i mentioned, there have been about -- i think i counted about 18 foreshocks. yesterday, one of those foreshocks was deadly. back to you. >> how do we know that this 7.0 also is not a foreshock and more could be expected? >> that's a good question. i would guess that yesterday we perceived the earthquake that turned out to be damaging there, as well as fatal, we probably perceived that was the primary earthquake. we will see probably additional aftershocks from this. some of them could be equal to that earthquake. i suspect that we'll see some that come very close. you are right. at this point it is hard to tell but just from historically speaking, that's what this particular earthquake looks like the 7.0. as i mentioned the usgs revised
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that at least one time and now measuring 7.0. >> we will stay on top of the breaking news. another major earthquake struck japan 7.0. that's coming up. we will stay on top of the breaking news and get back to the race for the white house. much more right after this. ♪ approaching medicare eligibility? you may think you can put off checking out your medicare options until you're sixty-five, but now is a good time to get the ball rolling.
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other islands. right now we have also learned the advisory, the tsunami advisory had been issued. we are learning, as we are speaking the advisory has been lifted. that's good knew. we will follow the breaking news story and bring you updated as we get them. stay with us for that. in the meantime, back to the race for for the white house here in the united states. with time winding down, the candidates are dialing up attacks. on the debate stage, hillary clinton painted bernie sanders and as an aol idealist with empty promises and characterizing herself as someone who can get things done. >> free college offer, my late father said, if somebody promises you something for free, read the fine print, the cost. >> we are not a country that has the courage to stand up to big money and do what has to be done for the working families of this country. this is a global environmental
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crisis of unprecedented urgency. >> it's easy to diagnose the problem. it's harder to do something about the problem. >> on the republican side, donald trump feeling confident in his home state of new york, perhaps nationwide as a new poll reveals his lead is widening right now. with me to discuss all of this and more, democratic strategist jamal simmons, cnn political commentator nchs and trump supporter scottie nell hughes. >> who won the debate last night? >> nobody won that debate last night, wolf. i'm not sure how long this campaign is going to go on. it seems like we are making the same points over and over again. secretary clinton -- it feels like she is not trying to compete for the beenny voters anymore. she makes the point if someone
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offers you something for free, you have to watch yourself. young people don't want to hear that. they want to hear aspirational visions and it seems clinton is not trying to compete for those votes. she will maximize the vote she has and get them out to win the primary, get the math and worry about wooing sanders' voters later. >> do you agree? >> i think i may have won the debate because i enjoyed watching it. there are real ideological divides between the two and with hillary's background and bernie's lack of details on the stage. they were hinting at that. i thought an interesting moment for her is on the transcripts when you hit her hard and kept drilling down on that and she won't release to the transcripts. that speaks to a narrative that exists for her. that's why it is tough for her to shrug it off. bernie had a bad moment on guns which se the left of the party doesn't enjoy his position on that but the tax returns don't
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necessarily speak to a narrative about him. people don't feel he is hiding anything. he may want to spruce up the paperwork before he passes it out. >> he are will release his tax returns he said last night and will release it later today. scottie, ufr you are a trump supporter. for trump who would be the bigger challenge for him, bernie sanders or hillary clinton? >> i think it is definitely hillary clinton. i think that's who mr. trump has been running against since the beginning. last night i watched sanders show passion and emotion. he almost lost his cool what people said he should have done from the beginning. my biggest point when i went wow is the turning of the minimum wage for hillary clinton and getting her to up her game and show she changed her opinion on that. that is something you don't see often hillary changing on stage, going from $13 to a $15 minimum wage. that's one of the reasons mr. trump has been saying he's
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going to run against hillary clinton and looks forward to running against her because he can show she changes based on where the heat is at that moment. >> don't you agree on several of these issues he has pushed her more to the left, for example raising the minimum wage to $15 as scottie pointed out? >> he has pushed her more left. that's not necessarily a bad thing. if you understand the electorate to be -- this is going to be a contest especially if trump is the nominee, this will be a contest between two of the most well known people in the united states. each probably has close to 100% name i.d. this isn't about defining those people but turning out your core voters. hillary clinton's biggest challenge is how does she get these young voters, african-americans who are siding with sanders, a small group, how does she get them to turn out and vote for her in the fall? she has to get the number up. the more she can appeal to those, the better off she will
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be in the next election. >> on the republican side a national poll from fox news shows donald trump widening his lead over ted cruz. trump has an 18-point advantage. you see trump 45, cruz 27. kasich 25. any way at all you think that's going to change between now and tuesday? >> not probably before tuesday. i think cruz's game smartly has been where can i pick up delegates that are vulnerable for him and maybe there are a couple of places we can work hard and have people on the ground in congressional districts in new york and california. the cruz campaign has shown they are able to do that on the ground. they know the rules and work hard and competently to make sure they can gain delegates in those places and that's what it comes down to. each state will be a different story. as to whether they can work. that the trump campaign has been playing catch up in that way. that's why they were so upset about colorado. and they are going to continue to play catch up because they
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don't have as many people on the ground to decipher this and work the grassroots. >> trump has an 18-point lead. it is a huge lead in new york state, as well going in to new york's primary on tuesday. all right, guys. thank you very much. coming up, protests are expected in colorado over the selection of the state's republican delegates them chairman of the republican national committee, reince priebus is standing by live. there you see him. we will talk about that and more involving the republican party and how it picks its nominees after this.
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call liberty mutual for a free quote today at see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. donald trump rails against what he calls a rigged democratic process. this time he is arguing his case in the op-ed article in the "wall street journal." he writes among other things this -- what we are seeing now is not a proper use of the rule because flagrant abuse of the rules. delegates are supposed to reflect the decisions of voters, but the system is being rigged by party operatives with double agent delegates who reject the decision of voters.
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the american people can have no faith in such system. it must be reformed. joining us is reince priebus, chairman of the republican national committee. thank you for joining us. pretty tough article. you read the article in the "wall street journal." he said he wants to work with the rnc to reform election policies. is the system broken an need fixing? >> it was the same system that put abraham lincoln in the office. no, i think the system is working. all of the delegates that are bound to the candidates will stay bound to the candidates. no one is losing any bound delegates whatsoever. the convention in colorado is a convention that took place four years ago, as well. over 60,000 people participated starting a month ago, culmina culminating to a convention. all of the candidates participated all along the way for the last monday and no complaints were made.
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this is the way that the parties, and the democrats do it in a similar way, choose their nominees. the delegates are empowered by the voters, but the delegates on the floor choose the nominee of the party after empowered by the voters. this is a very normal system that we have been using for many years. by the way, if anyone wants to reform the system they can do so on the rules committee because every four years the rules committee gets together and writes the rules for the nomination of our party. so, that's who decides the system. it's not the rnc that writes the rules to determine the system. >> that rules committee meets the week before the republican convention. in cleveland, trump's campaign manager corey lewandowski echoed trump's arguments that the system is rigged. listen to what he said on cnn's "new day." >> people know what the rules are but they aren't fair and
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they should make it so people can go to the ballot box if you live or colorado, go to the ballot box and vote for the person you want and the vote should count and whoever has the most votes which donald trump has by millions should be the nominee. >> you want to respond to lewandowski? >> yeah, there's a lot of people that like open primaries to choose our nominee. there's a lot of states that use the primary system. wisconsin uses the primary system. i like primaries. some people like caucuses, there's a few states that do conventions. it is up to the individual states. it's their delegate election. each state as a delegate election and the state writes the rules for that delegate election. in some states, it's how corey lewandowski put forth but in other places it is different and the campaigns have to learn the rules and execute on the rules. this is a nomination for the republican party. the republican party writes the rules of the nomination procedure for its own party.
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>> i'm going to speak later with debbie wasserman schultz the chair of the democratic national committee. she said the republicans right now -- these are her words, are in a civil war food fight and they are blowing themselves to smithereens. you want to react to what your counterpart on the democratic side had to say? >> well, honestly, i think she ought to look in the mirror. look, we're going to get together. we're going to be unified in cleveland. i know there's drama and work to do. i get it. i'm not oblivious to the world that i live in, but look, you saw the debate last night front and center, wolf. they were gouging each other's eyes out. comey, the fbi director is immunizing employees and potentially preparing for charging papers.
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i don't think that debbie wasserman schultz has a lot of room to talk. >> who do you worry about more, facing the republican nominee, whoever the nominee may be? hillary clinton or bernie sanders? >> much more comfortable and i think everyone that has analyzed this knows that hillary clinton is in the ditch. we don't know how far in the ditch she's going to go but she's not doing well. she's not even winning. she lost seven out of eight contests, i believe, maybe eight out of nine. she's not winning. she is not popular. >> she has -- >> unfortunately for her she's not likable. >> she has almost 2.5 million more votes right now in all of the contests over bernie sanders. she has a million more than donald trump has and donald trump has a lot more, almost two million more than ted cruz. so on the popular vote more than 30 contests so far she's doing pretty well. >> you asked me who would be
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better to run against. i'm telling you i'd rather run against hillary clinton because she's defined. she's not liked and in a popular cultural vote in america that's an important question. she doesn't do well on that question. i don't know what will happen with the fbi. put her unpopularity together with another unknown that could be even harder for her i'd rather run against hillary clinton. just answering your question. >> all right. that's interesting that you fear bernie sanders more than hillary clinton. that's the bottom line, right? >> i don't fear either of them. i think after eight years of obama, i think this is our year. we have to work hard. i know that. and we have work to do but we will do that work so we can win. >> interesting, reince priebus, the chairman of the republican national committee, thank you very much. >> you bet. just ahead, the war to win new york state far from finished right now.
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the race for the democratic presidential nominations turned in to a brawl last night. the angry tone of the race was on full display during the democratic presidential debate in brooklyn. it was a sharp contrast from the first debate back in october with senator bernie sanders defended hillary clinton over the e-mail controversy. >> i think secretary is right and that is the american people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn e-mails. >> thank you. me, too. wait a minute. wait a minute. i have stood on the debate stage with senator sanders eight prior times. i've said to you. >> secretary, senator, please. secretary -- secretary, the viewers -- if you are both screaming at each other the viewers won't be able to hear either of you. please don't talk over each
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other. >> got lively there. joining us is representative debbie wasserman schultz chair of the democratic national convention. what a difference six months can make. are you concerned about the tone, the tone this race has taken has clearly it was bitter last night. >> i'm really not. there would be something wrong with either of our candidates if during this intense part of the campaign, when we have gotten to the most narrow end of the tunnel, before the primary comes to a close they wouldn't be, you know, assertive about pointing out their differences. but look, while the debate was going on last night, it is important to know that we are, at the same time, functioning as a united political party. today we filed a lawsuit, the democratic national committee, the campaign committee with the arizona democratic party and both of our candidates campaigns
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are joining that lawsuit to sue the state of arizona over their horrendous voter suppression laws an the fact they have absolutely engaged in voter suppression that denied people access to the polls. so our candidates understand that we share the same values. we want to achieve the same goals. they have slightly different approaches but we are a united political party and i'm confident we will be when our primary comes toed and and we have our nominee. >> so much bitterness last night. you could watch the audience, the hillary clinton and bernie sanders supporters who were out in the audience. you were there in brooklyn. it will be hard to get them to work together after a nominee is selected. >> you know, there's always work to do at the end of the a primary. no question. there was plenty of work to do at the end of 2008. frankly the contest in 2008 was more divisive for a longer period of time. there was a lot
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and we were able to come back together, unite behind our nominee, obama, and elect our president. he asked me to chair the dnc after tim kaine ran for the senate, so we know how to come back together and we are preparing at the democratic national committee to be ready for the general and to be able to manage that process as well. >> we just heard your republican counterpart reince priebus, the chairman of the committee, say basically that hillary clinton, i think i'm paraphrasing now, is in a rut right now, she's in deep trouble. they think she would be a weaker democratic candidate than even bernie sanders would be. your reaction? >> you know, i know that my counterpart is doing his best not to poor bailey's in his own coffee, to use his words. he's putting the best spin on the situation he can.
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the reality is he has utter chaos going on. he has open warfare from his front-runner whose likely to be his nominee and in donald trump. he goes on tv and is not talking about the issues, he's talking about defending the rules. we do have rules. the candidates know what those are. be that as it may, no party chair wants to be debating their own likely nominee over rules and process. they want to make sure at the end of the primary contest and even during it, they're able to get their party's message out. the message that's coming out is extremism, misogyny, bigotry, and their primary has basically sent a message to americans -- >> congresswoman -- >> -- no rational people need apply. >> just as donald trump is complaining about the republican nominating process, you got bernie sanders, his wife jane
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sanders, they're complaining about the democratic process, saying that it's -- and i'm paraphrasing once between, it's rigged. your reaction? >> no, not really. i mean, there have been some complaints leveled here and there throughout the campaign. but not nearly in the way that is occurring with the -- with the donald trump campaign. i mean, senator sanders has been at this a long time. been in office 25 years. and certainly, you know, the sanders campaign, we've actually had, you know, a relatively good working relationship with them. and they were aware of the rules for each of the states, and we've not actually had a really tough time with them when it comes to each primary as they've come, so, you know, complaints aside, i think there's no comparison. >> who do you fear most, would it be donald trump, ted cruz or john kasich as the republican nominee? >> well, i'll answer you the same way i answer this every
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time you ask me, and that is, it doesn't much matter. because throughout the entire unfolding of their primary, they have had a set of republican candidates that have been extreme, that have talked about mexicans being druggists and -- drug dealers and rapists, wanting to deport 11 million people, build a wall and make mexico pay for it, patrol muslim neighborhoods, actually bar an entire religion from entering the country. this is the party that said after the 2012 election when they lost if they were ever going to win another presidential election, their autopsy said they had to embrace groups of voters that they've been alienating and embrace comprehensive immigration reform and stop making people feel unwelcome in this country. it's not quite worked out the way they planned. >> debbie wasserman schultz, the chair of the dnc, thank you. still ahead, nigerian lawmakers are demanding answers following cnn's report on the missing schoolgirls. we're going to go to nigeria right after this.
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cnn's exclusive reporting on nigeria's missing schoolgirls is promising action in the country's senate. yesterday, we showed you the video being used, the negotiations between boko haram and the government that showed some of the girls. two years ago, they were snatched from their beds in a dormitory in the town of chibuk,
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leading to international pleas to bring back our girls. our senior correspondent is joining us now. nima, what is the latest as far as the negotiations are concerned? >> well, we understand, wolf, as recently as last week, from sorpss close to the negotiations, baca haram made another demand. they want $1 million. that figure of course is one that's being debated furiously but $1 million for just 10 of those 15 girls that we saw in that video, so clearly intent on getting as much out of those 219 desperate girls as they can. this comes as nigeria's senate has tabled a bill, post hue unanimously, prompted by cnn's broadcast of that video, to summon the country's security chiefs. they want an accounting of the search so far. and they really want the security agencies to explain why it has taken so far and whether the emphasis on a mel tear
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solution has come at the cost of pursuing with some seriousness those negotiations, because the terror group also wants the release of many of their numbers that are being held in nigerian cells, which some of those we're speaking to in the security agencies here feel would send a really bad precedent. we're getting a lot of international reaction, wolf, from the uk, but also from the u.s. unfortunately, in terms of the hopes of the families, the u.s. hay has made very clear, although they stand to provide as much support as they can, as they were two years ago, but similarly to two years ago, they remain constrained by nigeria, on how much help they feel they need, wolf. >> you have been doing amazing reporting, nima, for two years plus. how powerful has the impact of this been on you? >> it was heartbreaking. i don't think there's any other
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word for it. he same type, to just see a little bit of hope, i think we all felt privileged to witness that. >> you and your team have been doing an amazing job for all of us, our viewers in the united states around the world. thanks very much for doing this great, great reporting. that's it for me. the news continues right now on cnn. here we go, happy friday, thank you so much for being with me. of course you are watching cnn. the alliterations abound to explain how combative cnn's presidential debate got. examples, brooklyn brawlers, democrats duel, hometown hostility. all to decide how bernie sanders is in it to win the presidency. despite his delegate deficit in polls like this latest one showing hillary clinton's dominance in new york. look at that, double digit lead she has. it's pivotal delegate rich primary, just four days away.
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