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created. spike lee's place in brooklyn, randy kay joins us now. what's going on? >> reporter: hey there, anderson. there's quite a party here tonight. we're outside spike lee's place in the heart of brooklyn. this was supposed to be spike lee's party celebrating the life of prince, but really this feels like prince's party. you can feel his presence here. there are hundreds of people in the streets. they've closed off the streets. there are people here who are black, who are white, who are young, who are old. they're all singing every word to prince's songs, including "when doves cry" which is playing now. there are people in the balcony, talking about where they were when they got the news that prince died. people that grew up in the '60s, '70s, '80s, all feel like they grew up with prince, such an outpouring of love on the streets. also an outpouring not just from everyday people on the streets but from celebrities today.
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take a look. >> pop, rock, funk, he did it all. ♪ tonight i'm going to party like it's 1999. >> the passing of prince left many stunned. many taking to twitter to remember the purple one. whoopi goldberg tweeting this is what it sounds like when doves cry, prince, rip. condolences to his family and all. lenny kravitz, my musical brother, my friend, the one that showed me the possibilities within myself. spike lee. i miss my brother, prince was a funny cat, great sense of humor. ♪ dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to get through this thing called life ♪ >> justin timberlake who idolized the rocker posting a heart felt message on his instagram. they say don't meet your idols,
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they let you down, some of my greatest, funniest, yes, he was hilarious, came from moments i spent with him. even the president chimed in, saying in part prince did it all, funk, r&b, rock and roll. he was a virtue owes oh instrumentalist, an electrifyin instrumentalist, an electrifying performer. his impact is undeniable. beyonce describing her grammy performance with the pop idol in 2004. >> i was like is that -- are you serious? i was on the stage with prince? like are you serious? that is crazy! i still can't believe it. ♪ ♪
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>> and alicia keyes upon prince's rock and roll hall of fame induction. >> there are many kings, king henry viii, king solomon, king tut, king kong. but there's only one prince. ♪ ♪ >> jamie foxx talked about how prince influenced his career. >> everything about this guy, dug everything about his music. i called it delicious music. like you could almost taste the music he was making. >> composer, performer and artist, prince was one for the ages. for that he will always have a place on the stage. >> one for the ages.
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people of all ages at the party at spike lee's place. how late is that party going to go? >> reporter: i think it will go several hours. they closed off the street, people don't seem to mind it. they have their windows open, music is blasting, people are willing to stay all night. they say prince changed their life. he got them through makeups, breakups. i asked him one word to describe him, anderson. to go through a short list, edgy, and droj news, sexy, not afraid to be different. and one more thing, people aren't talking about what might have killed prince, they want to celebrate his life. to many it doesn't matter, he is gone and they'll miss him terribly. >> thank you very much. we will talk to spike lee shortly. prince wrote for, produced, nurtured so many other talented performers, many who became stars in their own right.
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george clinton already in the stratosphere, collaborated with prince, we spoke just before air. george, you knew prince, worked with him, you were on his record label. what's going through your mind tonight? >> well, the world is going to be missing a great personality, not only performer but song writer. with me, a good friend, you know, just watching we used to call him the kid, i haven't processed it yet. still in denial. >> did you know, his publicist said he was battling the flu. did you hear anything about his health? >> i heard last week he was on a flight and had the flu or something. i had no idea. he always seemed in great shape. i don't know anybody that could work that hard, you know,
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morning to night every day and then get up and go party. i just never seen him as being ill, like myself. i can't picture myself being ill, you know, but he was strong as far as i knew. i have no idea. >> talk to me about him as an artist. i saw him a couple years ago at a hotel room to a crowd of maybe 50 people. went late into the night. he kept saying i got too many hits, i got too many hits. i got to keep going. he kept on playing one hit after another. >> he was into that, showing up places people didn't expect him to be. saw him with his girl over in london, i didn't know he was going to be there. called up, told me he was there. he enjoyed that, same as we did. we still do.
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playing places where hardly anybody in there sometimes, call it the anti-tour. he was into that even when we were back -- when i was on paisley, used to do those things, go around places people wouldn't expect you to be. >> saw a clip of you with arsenio hall many years ago, you talked about prince, you said he does his job, he expects you to do yours. was he tough to work with? >> you can't achieve the kind of success he had without being disciplined in terms of the craft. >> oh, no, he's true to the craft, but also inspired that in you when you're around him. it don't be hard to do when you're around him, see how dedicated he is to doing what he do. he inspire you to want to keep up with him. but he expect the same from you, that's for sure. going to do it, might not think you get the compliment, but that's why you around him, because he thinks you're good enough to be around.
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so yeah. he expects a lot from you. >> in person was he as kind of enigmatic and mysterious as in public persona? only met him once or twice, sat next to him at dinner one time, i don't get nervous often, but i got nervous trying to figure out what to talk to him about, he was quiet. when he spoke, you had to lean in, listen to what he was saying. i was struck by how interesting he was, how interested he was in a lot of stuff, not just music, but issues, news. things like that. >> right. he did a lot of it, you know, calculating that he wasn't going to waste his energy for the most part, but he's really quiet, really quiet. he did do a lot of it intentionally to save his energy. used to tease me a lot, i could go out in the audience, be
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bothered with people. he was like how could you do that. his way of doing it, keep you thinking he is mysterious, you didn't want to bother him, he is so quiet. once he got down, got to having fun, then you can see how much fun he could have. how much he liked to talk. political, social, any of that, he was interesting. like you said, mysterious. but mainly to preserve his own energy. >> george, i'm sorry we're talking under these circumstances, but it is a real pleasure to talk to you. i am a big fan. thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. >> george clinton, tributes everywhere. look at purple super dome in new orleans. go back to brooklyn, back to spike lee and the block party he arranged in honor of his frnd.
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she's talking about his death. he changed a world. tr visionaries aren't always understood. larry king asked him why he stopped using his name and went to a symbol. >> you would admit yourself an unusual personality. >> depends. >> say you're different. >> as compared to what. >> as compared to most in show business, most don't get famous with one name and change it. what's the story of that? >> well, i had to search deep within my heart and spirit and i wanted to make a change and move to a new plateau in my life. one of the ways i did that was to change my name, divorce me from the past and hangups that go along with it. >> do you still have fondness
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for minneapolis? >> absolutely. >> what was it like growing up there. aren't many blacks in minneapolis. talk to go dave wing field the other night, 1% maybe. >> it was interesting for me. i grew up getting a wide array of music, i grew up with santana, larry graham, fleetwood mac, all kinds of different things, you know. so that was very cool. >> good place to grow up? >> yes, sir. >> you had a rough childhood, didn't you? >> in some respects. >> did that effect your music? >> i don't think so. it probably helped me to look inside to know that i had to do for self. i've always known that god was my creator and that without him,
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boy, nothing works. it works to a point, then it kind of deteriorates, atrophy takes place. >> when bad things have happened to you, you blame him? >> absolutely not, no. >> how do you explain, how do you resolve that in yourself. >> i learn from it and i don't wallow in it, i don't spend time in a place. i let myself move on, you know. >> prince on larry king. he released his first album when he was 19 years old. owen husband knee was his first manager. he joins us. i'm sorry we are speaking under these circumstances, you were in minneapolis, said they had the next big thing, happened to be an 18-year-old prince. what did it sound like, did you know this guy has incredible talent? >> yes, it was very interesting. a fellow by the name of chris moon had a small studio, south side of minneapolis. he brought me this cassette.
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it was routine to have people bring me cassettes, i am shuffling papers on the desk, he is reaching over, putting it in my cassette player. i'm all ready with the speech, it is promising, come back in five years. i listened. from the first notes that i heard, it was a very early demo they had done at chris' studio of soft and wet, which was his first single. and i listened to it, i noticed that the sound was different. it was derivative, but it was a new sound, the way he was using guitars against the keyboard. just this 8 track studio. it was different. then his voice came on and it was this fal set oh he was using at the time. it was so vulnerable. i didn't know what he looked
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like, i had no idea who he was. i just wanted to hug him and protect him. and i realize that he was creating a new sound. in this business when you hear things, you can say that sounds like so and so's guitar playing, he was melding sounds against the key boards and going for something quite new. >> on the first albums, he was playing all of the instruments. >> he was playing all of the instruments on the first album. he did have some help, patrice russian played some key boards on there, but by and large he played every single instrument on the first album. >> when you finally met him, what were your impressions? >> he came over to my house and was in the fall of i believe 1976, and the minute i met him and saw his eyes, that's the old cliché, your eyes of the window to your soul, there was
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something so special about just looking at his eyes, seeing his reactions. and one thing i noticed was that he was wearing clothes of not a wealthy man. but he put it together meticulously. brown sweater, iron creases in his jeans. i saw that he had just taken care to put himself together. then as we started talking i noticed how brilliant he was. i just surmised very early on this kid has a very high iq. obviously there's no iq that determines creativity, but i could just tell by talking to him and concepts that he was grasping that this was no ordinary 18-year-old who would drive 100 miles er hour down the street and do stupid things that i probably did when i was 18. he was very focused. knew what he wanted. >> when he was offered like a three record deal or at least for the first album, he was made
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an offer but the record company wanted others to produce it and he said no. he turned it down. incredible act for somebody at that age. >> he called me and said no one is producing me. they wanted other people to produce him. he wrote me a letter and said here is why i don't want this person to produce me. i am respectful of his music but i don't want his imprint. owen, tell the chairman of warner brothers records i am producing my own album so i had the lovely job of going up there and saying prince is going to produce his own album, but i'll tell you something, mo austin, lenny kerr, they were artist friendly label at the time. we had to do a test in the recording studio to watch him, see that he could play the instruments. when they saw it, they called me out into the hallway and said we get it.
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we get it. he can do this. it might cost us an album. they watched him create a drum track alone. i don't even think we used a quick track, added base guitar. by the time he got to third or fourth instrument, they were like he gets it. >> owen husney, thank you so much. again, sorry under these circumstances, great to talk to you. spike lee, the prince tribute block party he arranged where friends and family are making a joyful noise.
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. who was your one direction. >> my one direction when i was younger had to be prince. prince was my one direction. stevie. stevie wonder. >> did you have posters in the bedroom? >> first album i bought was "purple rain," it came with a poster. >> that's right. >> it came with a poster! you open it up, you get this poster. put that poster on the wall. sometimes i would kind of walk out the room and kiss prince. give him a kiss, yeah. >> queen latifah talking to jimmy fallon about the singer that is deeply mourned tonight and celebrated. from the celebration, director, producer, writer, friend, spike
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lee. the scene there, you are throwing a huge party. what do you hope people think about right now about prince when they remember him? >> well, anderson, right here in brooklyn, new york, we are having a great time celebrating the prince. now we're going to go, let's go crazy in a minute! dearly beloved. we are gathered here today for this thing called life. about to go bananas here, a great celebration. we're all stunned by his sudden death, but he's still here in spiritual form and we love him. i just put out my -- come out to brooklyn. >> looks like there are thousands of people there. >> at least 5,000.
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the power of social media. right here in brooklyn new york, what's up! >> to you, spike, what made prince on the level that he was? >> it's hard to describe. he was so many things. uh-oh, we're going crazy, anderson! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! but we're just having a good time. as i said before, it is all sudden. nobody knew it was going to happen. but we're just dancing and singing, shouting. having a great time. >> i saw him, spike, i saw him perform once in a small room in manhattan and he started i think at 2:00 a.m., and it went i think until 4:00 a.m. and he kept saying i've got too many hits, i've got too many hits. it is incredible when you put together a prince play list, the sheer volume of hits he has.
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>> oh, when he got in the groove, he would play four hours straight. >> and how long did you know him for? what was he like as, you know, one on one? >> well, i mean, we all grew up together. i was one year older than michael and prince, we all grew up together. you know, when everybody, i was the last one to hit it, i got to meet them all, got to work with them, too, so it was a great honor. >> what was he like to work with. we talked to jimmy jam, talked to stevie wonder, to george clinton, he was in command of that stage when he was on the stage. >> yeah, i was just, i had the pleasure of doing a music video for the film "money don't matter." called me out of the blue, said i want to direct this video. so i did it. two weeks ago he had a party for
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the cast of "hamilton." he performed and was in great form, great shape. he looked fine to me. now he's gone. >> when he would perform, did he used to have parties late at night, i used to get calls, i met him over a dinner, i used to get calls from his people saying prince is having a party tonight, he would like you to come, but i was always in new york. i've got a job. i was like can you give me a heads up, i can't just get on a plane and go there. i feel like i missed all of these incredible parties he must have had. >> well, big party happening tonight, that's all i can say, anderson, big party tonight. >> i saw it on the instagram. >> be good. >> spike, you want to go back and party, no problem. i'll talk to you later. >> thank you, anderson, thank you cnn. >> have fun in brooklyn. an amazing scene at spike lee's
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them, i don't know that i'll get to release them. >> prince on "the view" in 2002. there's a vault of unreleased material. one of the most prolific song writers. had a well spring of creativity. cnn commentator van jones, david that was his stylist.gela davis- how do you style prince. >> you just respond to his greatness, really. i worked with him in that moment where he started to wear tunics and i went to morocco to buy tunics for him, it was pretty fabulous, but it was interesting. his spirituality was starting to really become part of his aesthetic expression, so it was really fun, but he had these shoes, well -- >> shoes. >> all of his shoes were almost all of them were covered in the same fabric as his trousers, it
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was a seamless line to make him seem taller. he could do things in those shoes. he expressed himself. the last clip, you showed the aft afro and glasses. he found no boundaries, and he absorbed creativity from every source. it was amazing. >> what a lot of people don't realize, there was a lot of activism prince was involved with, you and he did together. what was it like to know him in that way? >> well, you know, he was my friend. he was not the kind of guy would call you when you were having a good day, if you had a best selling book, if you had did something good, not calling you then. when you're having a bad day, going through something, that's when he would call you, he would want to be there for you. he felt that way about the community as well.
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went to chicago in the middle of the violence, did three shows to launch rebuild the dream. that clip you showed, i was on "the view" with him on that show. so was dawson, another good friend. we went to chicago, to baltimore, woman named who doesn't get credit, fade ra ellis lamb kin, young african-american, his manager in the last years, she got him his catalog back. got him his masters back. he fought his whole life back. got that back. was going to do things for children. he had ideas, he wanted to almost do sesame street, do the music of something like sesame street. >> were you there when he got -- did i read that you were in the room when he got the catalog back and found out? >> i was there for the moment of triumph. all those fights. >> what was that like? >> it was unreal. here you have a man who they took his name, his mother named
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him prince rogers nelson, that wasn't a stage name, his mother named him that. in the legal conflict, the musical industry said you can't call yourself prince because of this contract. he said call me a symbol then. that was horrible for him. it was such a seering injury to have his name stripped away. he started writing slave on his face, what do you mean these people can tell me i have to make music for them on their terms. he fought and fought and fought. the woman that won that who has gotten no credit, doesn't have a law degree, she came out of the labor movemet and beat them back and won. i was there. and the peace that came over him. there was no try uppalism, it was to have it back in his control. don't forget this. he fought for artists to be in control of their own destiny because when he was a kid, 17, 19 years old, he signed a contract, signed it all away. but he fought and got it back. fought for himself and also
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fought for others. >> david, so many artists are concerned with brand. was that part of prince's approach to everything? he was a brand unto himself in many ways. >> i think first and foremost he was -- it was that period when he was the artist formerly known as prince. first and foremost, he was an artist. that's what's surreal and heart breaking about this year we've lost, david bowie and prince, two of the most beloved artists. becomes a brand because they have style. they have a brand. but first and foremost, what he had was one of the greatest catalogs in music. great that he got it back. van was mentioning baltimore. great song he wrote not long ago called "baltimore." when you're prince, you're competing against your past. his first ten years why so
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towering, it was almost tough to compete with himself. >> you said he used to watch you on cnn, let now if he thought you were missing the mark. he would give you feedback. >> he was brutal. the terrible thing about it, and everybody, he's the funniest guy you've ever met. if he never touched a musical instrument, he would have been as famous as a comedian. gave eddie murphy five minutes and prince one, prince was win. not only would he tell you how bad you were, he would have you laughing at yourself at the same time, so you're crying because you feel like you haven't lived up to his standard, but also making you -- literally one of the funniest people you've met. so talented across the bore. cared about the community. let me say this, anderson, black lives matter inspired him more than anything else. his big prayer foray leash a garza and black lives matter people, they would become an
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economic force, creating jobs, creating apps, creating music, companies. if they can become an economic creative force, solve the problems they're protesting about. >> and briefly, michaela, i get the sense on stage he was in full command. did he sort of have a sense of himself in all realms, he knew what he wanted to wear, how he wanted to look, what he wanted to project? >> what this all speaks to is this idea of freedom, emancipation, fearlessness. he was self liberated. even in his work he was in command, but also he was also really -- he surrendered to his art. he surrendered musically in a way i haven't seen, dancing, doing the splits, humping, playing piano moving seamlessly through time and space. that really was freedom in this
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absolute sense, right? so you know, i just keep thinking someone will call us and say this isn't real. like i still haven't quite -- i'm a little disoriented that -- i keep thinking maybe this is a mistake, you know. there was no preparation. he made reference, we knew he was ill, but this has -- like everything stopped. people left meetings, turned off their phones, walked around in a way that is. >> hard to imagine. >> yeah. and the set is purple. >> thank you for being here. before we get a break, want to show you the crowds paying homage in paisley park. i will talk to verdine white from earth, wind and fire. ♪ ♪
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an outpouring of grief for music legend prince that died this morning in his complex outside minneapolis. the circumstances are a mystery, the cause unknown. he was just 57 years old. an autopsy will be performed, and investigation is under way. ryan young is outside paisley park where crowds have been gathering. a lot of people we have been seeing all day. what's the mood like right now? >> reporter: huge crowds, anderson. you talk about the mood, maybe the music reflects the crowd. maybe get a higher vantage point see you can see it. so many different races are here talking about their memories of prince. i listened to people having a conversation about the singer, how certain songs touched them. there was an artist here painting several hours. we watched him put a picture together of prince, some people stood there, taking pictures of this. at one point, the family requested everyone not take pictures closer to the fence
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line. now those folks have gone inside, people pushed all the way to the front. they're placing flowers along the fence to make sure to point out this is a person they loved so very, very much. the police are here making sure no one tries to run in the gate. this is something that has been continuing. the singer was found inside an elevator here, 911 calls have come out, and people are trying to get a picture what happened. people asking the simple question, do you know any more information about what happened to prince. they love him. they want to talk about what happened and maybe get more information tomorrow obviously when the autopsy happens. >> do we know much about the investigation, when the autopsy will be performed? >> well, we are told it will be tomorrow. people want to know more about the 911 call that came out, when we hear back and forth, someone trying to figure out exactly the location of the building. they're saying we're at prince's compound. people want to know exactly what
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happened in the minutes before he was in the elevator, whether or not he saw a doctor before this. those are questions that obviously we can't answer at this point. we know the police set up a heavy presence. we have seen cars going back and forth for a few hours. just in the last half hour or so, there were several suvs that left with people covering their faces, we're not sure who was on the inside. obviously great concern in the community about what happened to prince in his final hours and people wanting to come out, especially with concerts later on tonight in this area, for people that want to say they love this man. >> we have been hearing, talked to a lot of people saying just that. ryan, thank you very much. the last few months have seen the loss of so many legends, including maurice white, and prince wrote for super hero on the band's millenium album. earlier i spoke to verdine white, the bassist and co-founder. verdine, thank you for joining us. first of all, my condolences,
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you lost your brother maurice in february. >> yes, right. >> news of prince's death is so shocking. when you first heard it, what went through your mind? >> almost what i went through with maurice's passing, it hits you. we knew prince well, maurice new prince, it backs you up for a minute, we went to rehearsal today and everybody's real quiet. we're getting condolences and hearing everybody's thoughts on the great artist of prince's caliber. >> i was reading on the background today about prince and i read that cbs actually wanted you to produce his three albums when he was only 19. >> that's right. i had a meeting with him with the cbs executives. i met with him when he was a
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beginning, beginning artist and then cbs didn't work it out and he went to warner brothers. but we all state close after that. of course he had the same management that we had at the time, bob kaballo, who managed luis and us as well as spriens. we were around each other all the time anyway. >> at 19, he had tremendous confidence. what was he like as a young artist? >> he was great. we used to go see him at the rollo rink in los angeles. from the beginning of his career, anderson, he came out the blocks, as we say in the business, smokin'. >> i heard he was in awe of your base playing as well, as so many others in the music industry are and have been. what do you think when you think about him as a musician, what set him apart? i mean, was it his ability to write? was it his performance or was it the whole package?
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>> the whole thing, anderson. i just think he's one of those artists that just came to the world with everything. he could write, you know, he could produce. he was very unique. and as he evolved, he became socially conscious, you know. he fought for the right of others, you know, as -- in other interviews, he really opened up the door for women, you know, people like vanity, who we just lost as well. sheila e., abalonia. >> he was also interested in a lot of things beyond music, social justice issues, political issues. i remember sitting with him at dinner and he clearly watched and consumed a lot of news and was fascinated by what was happening in the world. >> black lives matter, city of hope, the jazz foundation of america, the bridge, urban army and these are things people
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really didn't know. he did the work on stage and off stage. he's great example of a person who is an artist and hopefully all of other artists coming up, if they take just a little piece what prince did, they can do some great work because we just lost an icon, icon. >> it's been a brutal couple of months. prince, your brother, david bowie, so many artists. verdine white, thank you for talking with us. >> you're welcome, anderson. >> coming up, stevie wonder. and another sensation where prince is being remembered and honored tonight. (vo) whatever your perfect temperature...
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and you know the times that we did jam together were amazing, with all the various people he would bring together. most of all he brought all the various coaches together. he could play classic, if he wanted to, jazz if he wanted to, he could play country if he wanted to. he played rock, he played blues, he played pop, he played everything. he was just a great musician. and very cognizant of what his responsibility was as a musician and a human being. >> today was watching a recording of a concert that you did in paris back in 2010. you were performing "superstition," prince was accompanying you on the guitar. what i think gets lost on prince is he wasn't just a great songwriter, he's a stellar guitar player. he played nearly all the instruments on his first five albums, that's incredible.
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>> yeah, it's amazing. and, you know, it's fun to do that because basically you're going inside yourself and you're really giving people every single part of what you feel. it's what your soul is saying, this is how i wanted this to be played. fortunately i can play it and express myself. it's like an artist painting a picture. so he was a great artist of picture, of sound picture. and music. and so this is an amazing day, as we see so many things happening, the heartbreak is to see this man who is so talented to be taken away from us. but i know that the almighty god has far greater things for him to do eternally. so i just hope that we celebrate his music and celebrate his
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purpose that he fulfilled. >> stevie wonder, thank you so much. again, i'm sorry we're talking under these circumstances, but it's always an honor. thank you. >> tank you. -- thank you. >> stevie wonder from earlier tonight. that does it for our two-hour tribute. we remember the life of prince. right now "cnn tonight" with don lemon. ♪ dearly beloved, we are gathered here in this thing called life ♪ >> this is "cn n tonight" i'm dn lemon. prince rogers nelson died today at the age of 57, found unresponsive in an elevator at paisley park studios. the cause so far unknown, but his death comes far too soon. his music the sound track of a
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