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i still have my hand. my next stop in this "what the hel am i thinking tour" is to meet with the arkansas leader of the kkk. according to rhetoric, there's a new klan in town, they're no longer antiblack, they're just pro white. and nothing says clan than hanging out with a black dude. the clan was initially founded after the civil war by a group of confederate soldiers who were all like dang, we weren't finished depressing black folks yet. since then, whenever it looked like black folks were getting too upty, the clan came back. after the silver rights movement and most recently, after this. >> and projected barack obama,
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will become the 42nd president. >> but that black guy isn't headed down a dark road at night. this black guy is. i'm here to meet with an arkansas leader of the ku klux klan. how come this can't happen during the day again? all right. there's a car with the head lights on. if that's him, he'll blink his head lights. let's go. this guy said he was coming alone. why did i believe him? camera crew or not, this seems like a bad idea.
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>> imperial wizard of the international keystone knights of the ku klux klan. first of all, thanks for meeting with me. clan historically has been a group associated with violence. >> i'm not associated with violence. >> i know. i'm saying historically. don't you think that by wearing the same robes that it's difficult to separate those two separate klans
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. >> what means qualified? >> must be white and a christ n christian. jews will never be in the clan. their rar di they're a dirty race. you proud to be a black man is this. >> i am. >> you married to a black woman? is. >> i'm married to a white woman. there's murder and -- is interracial murder equal to that? >> it's above that because it's an abalmination. >> so, it's worse than murder. i wish we could have this d discussion on a sunny day and we could talk to these things on a more equal level. >> that's not going to happen. and you want to stay there. what does the future of america if the clan has its say?
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it's going to be hard for me to get involved. well, one thing i hope it involves is maybe a mouth hole because it's hard to understand you. maybe cut the mouth open. >> that might be a possibility. >> one step at a time. www dot -- five k's. all right. have a good evening. drive safe. >> yes, sir. >> yep, i just told a klansman to drive safely. i should have said y'all don't
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come back here now, you hear? let's get out of here. it's really weird for me when they use evolve but because they're good christians they don't believe in evolution. we've evolved but people don't evolve. but we've evolved. it's like the evolution chart. we start out as monkeys and then we're like this. i feel like the klan evolved from this to this and now they're down here. it's a series of ang reer and angrier monkeys upset about our hind legs. rier and angrier monkeys upset about our hind legs.
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i met a ku klux klan member by the side of a dark road. all my bucket list dreams are coming true. but the new klan is diminished from the last klan. it's like when you go see one of the classic motown era bands now. i went to see the temptations and it's not the same. that's how i feel about the klan. i went and saw the temptations, it used be to five and now it's four. and you know it's not the original because one guy is white and the others are in their 20s. the only original is old and on a stool the whole time. ain't too proud to beg. so, i can't just judge the clan by this one dude, i got to go
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talk to more clan members, which is the first time a black guy's ever said a sentence like that in life. my next stop on the where are they now clan edition is dawson springs, kentucky. walking the streets, it feels like any quaint southern working class town but their neo-nazi buddies and ku klux klan have used the area outside of town. and i'm a kkk vip. but first let me talk to the locales and see if they know the ku klux klan is still in the hood. >> it's about as close to modern mayberry as you can get. >> would you recommend a black guy like myself buy a house around here? >> sure, sure, you'd fit right
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in, i'm sure. >> we've heard there's still a kkk presence? >> years ago, dawson did have a bad reputation. it just totally disappeared. >> it's been over for years. >> do you see black people around here ever? >> when i was growing up, there wasn't a lot because the kkk's headquarters is down the road. i see them down at dairy queen. >> we've talked to older people in town and one person said the clan hasn't been here for 50 years. >> they just wasn't open about it like they was in the past. >> what if i went down the road today? >> i wouldn't be skbcared of it. >> i didn't say you, i said me. and just like that, i'm off to see the wizards. going down a one-way road to see
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a cross burn. i'm meeting with the nordic ordord er knights of the ku klux klan. these guys claim to be progressive. i guess if you want to prove you're new and improved, you let a black guy watch you burn a cross. i can't let go of my liberal bias for tolerance. as i turn on to the clan property, i'm greeted by a semiautomatic rifle. >> go over there. >> thank you. i said thank you. i usually say thank you for not killing me. thank you for not killing me with your big gun, sir. ♪ oh, this is -- i've had some
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dumb ideas but this is -- >> imperial wizards, nordic order knights. nice to meet you. >> nice to meet you. >> would you like to come over? >> sure, absolutely. no, not really but we might as well start with small talk. >> well, this is kentucky. it's hot. a lot of salt of the earth of the americans and the ku klux klan. >> i would imagine it's especially hot in these robes. >> it's horrible. >> the whole premise behind the mask is to show that we're equal. >> so, what do african americans think about the clan? >> obviously, black people and the clan have had issues to put it lightly. me coming out here to talk to you guys is not something my
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mother dreamed of. obviously, that's a think and i respect the fact that you let me come out here and that you let me leave. >> nordic order knights is a direct action group. we're not politically correct whatsoever. if you try to hurt one of our members, we will hurt you. don't let me sugar coat anything. we're pro-white, 100%. we only work on our race. the other mud races, leave us alone. that's all i got to tell you is just leave us alone. >> mud races? there's got to be a funny comeback for that. i got nothing. let me try talking to the other imperial wizard. finally a clansman with high self esteem. have you had black people here before? >> no, you will be the black man invited to a cross burning.
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the first thing they learn is how to wrap a cross. the robes is part of who we are, the cross lighting is part of who we are. it's a cross lighting. >> so, how often do you do this? >> you wouldn't want to do it every month. you could have champagne but not every day. one of the nicest times to do it is during a full moon or in the winter when the stars are twinkal. >> that sounds kind of like a clan post card. >> if i were to send out post cards at christmas, i would want something like that. >> well, if you do, you don't have to give me credit for the idea. while this guys are wrapping the cross for burning -- i'm sorry, lighting. >> god created us and i truly feel that god's creation was perfect. it tells us not to mingle our seeds with the beasts of the field. you don't take a champion race
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horse and mate it to a mule. because the offspring is no longer champion. it's now mong rorelmongrelized. you're dumbing down your children. i believe we're having a great dialogue. >> please don't dumb it down. i'll try to keep up. >> we follow the teachings of the lord. and if the lord says it's bad, we say it's bad. >> and the bible says not to eat lobster. >> i violated it last night at red lobster. >> you went to the house of ill repute. so, we're all sinners. >> i'm going to hell. but every pbody has a place in this nation, i would just like to see a separate white nation. you take bag of skittles. you can mix the colors and it still tastes okay, but if you
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separate the colors and taste the individual flavors, it's even better. >> so, are you telling me when you have a bag of skittles, you separate all the colors? >> every single time. >> i'm waiting oen a clansman with kerosene to soak it. >> where can we find a clansman with kerosene? what about going to home depot? >> we tried that before and the wood goes up pretty fast. >> don't get your cross at home depot for the cross lighting. >> we're not racist against home depo whatsoever. >> i'm liking you have sensitivity about home depo. >> absolutely. most of the robes i have, have
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i accept the light. >> clansman, do you accept the light of jesus christ? >> whoa, whoa, whoa, we're not going to the cross burning yet. not in the middle of the show, i'm not dumb. that's the closer. you can't follow a cross burning. what follows a cross burning? actually, i don't ever want to know what follow as cross burning. don't worry, we'll get to the cross burning later. but first, if you search the internet for kkk, some of the top stories you'll find are about a small town you've probably never heard of, so i'm headed back to arkansas. the town of harrison has a
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population that is 96% white. it's known for still having an active ku klux klan presence. what kind of vibe will i get here? will i see a sign of modern day racism? tad.a. >> and a sign has called local out rage. some say it reminds them of a very unpleasant time in their town's history. >> i need to talk to somebody about the bill board and this lady will do. she's president of the harrison chamber of commerce. >> it broke my heart at first. after i cried for a while and had a hissy fit, then we work on how do you countera billboard without an author. >> there's nobody claiming credit. >> it's just the billboard.
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>> the people of harrison don't actually know who's responsible but if i was placing a bet, i'd bet this goy. >> harrison became a better place to live without its n negroes. >> he's the leader of the knights party of the ku klux kl klan. he's been known for his attempts to soften the image of the kkk. >> i don't hate black people bullet i do love my people more. >> rob has replaced the white robe with a suit and tie but the message is still the same. >> think about your ancestors and this heritage that has been given to you, look at the blood that flows through your veins, it's the same blood that was in your ancestors for thousands of generations. >> for years nobody said
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anything against him, so the assumption is most people in harrison must agree. we believe we have the same amount of racists as most communities. >> no more, no less. just one very loud one. >> this is what he does 24/7. i want to introduce you to our guest today. >> patty is part of a task force working to counter what she says is thomas rob's agenda, to discourage anyone who's white from moving into town. >> that's a victory for them. they didn't even have the bravery to put their name on it. so, it's almost cowardly. >> and who do you think it is? >> riit's a family business. it's what they do. >> thomas rob knows all about the task force too.
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>> we've been aic taed as a group, personally, individually. >> the main personalities behind the task force is patty and calvin and lain. it's this white guilt that has taken your spirit. >> if you meet him in town, he's very meek and mild and would probably stop and help you change your tire. well, i don't know about you. he would stop and help me change my tire. but his job is hate speech. that's what he does for a living. they have several businesses that they run out of their compound, i guess. >> compounds never sound like good times. i can tell you right now, most big cities, white people aren't having this conversation. a group of white people having a productive conversation about racism, this is like a unicorn. ,
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ok okay. wait a minute. i have to talk to you. >> it's so nice to see a person of color in my town. >> oh, can i give you a hug? >> sure. >> this is a pretty decent town. >> would you say this a warm and welcoming town? >> we'd welcome you just like anybody else. but the way that this world's coming to, the only hope is in jesus. >> i really appreciate your passion and putting your arm around you. and right now i'm going to put my arm around you. >> i was having a lack of black in my life. i appreciate having a blackout. how are you feeling in this town? is it bothering you? >> no. >> it's all friendly? >> yes. >> i have heard about this gentleman in town, thomas rob, he sounds like he's speaking for harrison? >> he's not.
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if you took a survey, 99% of the people here wish he would shut up. >> thomas rob, have you heard that name before, first of all? >> yes. >> you looked like i said lord voldemo voldemort. like don't say it three times, he might show up like beatetle juice. >> any drama people want to bring here isn't right. >> thomas rob is the leader of apparently what is the knights of the ku klux klan. it's so racist that the kkk added another k. this is the kkk-k. i had to call him up and go can i come to your creepy compound. i did actually call him and i didn't say creepy. i had one of the producers call because he has a way better white guy vice than i do.
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because he's white. mine is what up brother. nobody buys that. so, he was like how about me and your host go out to lunch and if i like him, then he can come to my comboupound. so, now i'm going to lunch with a ku klux klan member and i have to impress him. will racism ever end black people? you know what i'm saying. >> nice to meet you. >> thanks for coming. >> no problem at all. glad to be here. i hope i picked a good place to eat. >> i hope so. we'll find out. weirdly, this guy doesn't seem so bad for a clansman. can you lay out to me the belief system. >> the clan is a tool to reach people. i feel it gets the biggest bang
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for the bick and that's why i joined the clan but my personal belief is that black people can't maintain law and order on their own. that's my personal belief. white people have a inner drive for discipline and law and order. >> all white people? >> no, not all white people. some are really trash. >> okay. as long as we agree with that. >> but i sincerely believe that if people of my character and racial integrity were in charge your communities would be safe again. it's just we're a different people. we come from different worlds. you're happier, i suspect, among your own world. >> i am happier amongst my own
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people and -- >> so, you're comfortable in a multiracial society? >> yes. >> i'm not and other people are. but i have the right to love my heritage without them trying to call me a bigot. >> but the task force wants to promote diversety in town. >> why do they want to do that? there are many, many places already multicultural, racial, why don't they move to those places? >> for the same reason you've been here so long, they like this community. >> why is it white people can't have a community? >> they have a lot of communities, it's called america. >> they feel they have to have minorities come in. >> so, if i moved in and doubled the black population? if i brought 35 more mes, how
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would you feel buabout that? >> go for it. >> i hear you giving me permission -- i'm kidding. but we're getting along, having a good time. >> i'm not taking you home to dinner. >> would you come to my dinner? what if i had white people? >> i have no desire. >> but i'm a good cook. >> anyway. >> the bad news, i completely lost my appetite. the good news, pastor rob has invited me out to visit his compound. wait, that's good news?
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"true detective." wonder if a black man has ever been this far down this roads? and i've been promised time with his daughter, co host of rob's kkk internet show. >> i'm rachel pendograph, welcome to another edition of "this is the klan." >> and i'm going to get to meet this guy, former neo-nazi billy roper. >> raise your hand if you're a white person and proud to be something. >> in recent years he's become ancon to pal puteen. >> how are we going to make sure those babies would never have to go to school with any. [ bleep] if i had the answer, all of them
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would be buried. >> what's an old-school hater doing with new-klan, thomas rob and what have i gotten myself into? i hope this is the right klan compound. that would suck. and look who's waiting for me. former neo-nazi, billy roper. yes, we did. we got a little lost. hello, billy. billy wants to chat before bringing me inside to chat with pastor rob. here's an appropriate setting for a discussion on hate, a kids's play ground. >> i'm the membership coordinator for the youth core. >> that's right, the man who said this. >> if i had the answer all
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the -- would be dead. >> and now is this. >> can people who look like us still be our enemy? >> well, sure. we believe home sexualality is wrong and you shouldn't mix race and there are traitors who think it's right. >> i think it's crucial that we do everything we can to educate white youth about our perspective. all our founding fallithers wer white. america wasn't established to be a melting pot. >> why did they bring so many black people here? >> they were never intended to be equals or citizens. i wish my ancestors had picked their own cotton. >> you and me both, sir. that we can agree on. >> the only way to undue that original skin is repatriation.
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if we can't find a peaceable geographical separation, that might be an option. >> i see this beautiful playground and think about the fact that my daughter, if she was with me, would like to play on this playground. >> there are millions of majority black neighborhoods in the united states that my daughter could not play in today because of the violence, the drugs, the color of her skin. so, no. sometimes it's better for people to have their own places to play. >> all right. not just a racist, also kind of a jerk. >> this is the church. welcome. >> thank you. >> and we'll have have an opportunity to join pastor rob and rachel inside. >> great. >> come on in. >> hello. >> hello. >> howdy. >> how are you? >> nice to meet you. this is our conference hall and
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we have church services here. we have nice families and a lot of young people and children and so forth. >> what else do you do up here? >> we operate our internet television news program. >> oh, yes. rob's web series not ready for prime time or anytime. >> you and i are in the race war today and the blacks and the minorities are winning. >> the whole point of black history month is to make white people feel guilty. >> so, now i get to watch an actual taping right there onset. and that's rachel's young son running the whole operation. they give us permission to show isface but we're going to blur it anyway. i still have hope for him. >> i'm national director of the knight's party. >> and i'm rachel pendograph and
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welcome to another edition of "this is the klan." i notice that seems humorous to you -- >> cut for a second. you guys are doing great. i just think if you talk more to the camera. riit's just me and you and i ho my black presence isn't distu disturbi disturbing. >> we can say that this wonderful black man has given us technical advice to help make the show better. >> it was like i was right there at the taping. smile with your eyes. >> it's a family event for white pride. >> it sounded like you were white pride. we need to feel it. put a little more. that's all. >> and until next week. >> remember, this is the klan and this is the truth. >> i like the subtitle.
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if there was a jingle that popped in right there, that would be amazing. enough of the show business. >> what they're trying to do is forcibly diversify our community and we don't think making harrison more like west africa is an improvement. >> we want business owners to understand they don't have to feel pressure of being bullied by the task force. >> and how do you mean bullied? >> for instance, somebody put a sign up on the highway, antiracism is a code word for antiwhite. we don't know who put the sign up. >> can you agree it's unfriendly? >> we don't see it that way. that sign has been a success. >> it makes me feel driving in, i should probably drive through this community. >> when i say racist, can you
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tell me you don't see a white person? >> i have black relatives who are racist. >> when people think of racism, they have been programmed to think of white people. so, therefore antiracism really is anti-white. >> if one person is turned off, there might be hundreds or thousands who say i want to maybe move to harrison. >> did you put the sign up? >> no. >> did you say yeah? >> no. >> are you sure. this is my hard hitting question phase. >> no. >> what about billy? i wonder if he knows. >> they say they're antiracist, but what they are is anti-white and that's why anti-racist is a code word for anti-white. >> way to go.
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>> thank you for welcoming me to your church and next week i'll bring my friends and we'll have a barbecue. >> probably not. be careful. >> thomas rob and his new clan might not be as scary as the old clan but i still wouldn't want them living on the outskirts of my town. he's trying to take the kkk mainstream again and that's way more dangerous than any group wearing a hood and hiding in the shadows. but unless he picks up some ryan seacrest tv skills, i don't see it happening. thisstory of harrison, arkansas, fighting back against ignorance. i didn't know there would be such a spirit against it. >> in our hearts, that means
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more than anything. >> after this, despite what we think, the klan is real, they're out there. they're not the same, they're not as strong. they're like myspace. it's still out there, they're still recruiting and they're always like we're going to be back where we were but they're not. and i found out that the ku klux klan is still basically the same clan and sometimes they gather in the woods and burn a cross while a black guy watches. ♪ klansman, surround the cross. do you accept the light of jesus christ? >> i accept the light. >> klansman, do you accept the
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light of jesus christ? ? i accept the light. >> klansman, march. halt. face the cross. for god. for country. for kentucky. >> the klan claims this is a symbol of god's love but i'm not feeling the love right now. >> klansman, approach the cross. do not turn your back to the cross. holy shut. >> klansman, behold the fiery
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cross, so brilliant, though history has failed to quench its hallowed flames, all decades to be held in the hearts of all klansman, it's your light from sea to sea, the cross is a sign of the christian religion, a symbol of faith, hope, and love. we do not burn but light the cross to signify that christ is the light of the world and that in his light it destroys darkness. beneath the firry cross we burn in its sacred glow. as long as we give thanks to god every day, we shall never perish from this earth. we shall never die. they may try to destroy us, but the ku klux klan has been here for 150 years. i want to go for another 150 years. let's go. white power.
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[ everybody: white power] >> i realize this new klan isn't as powerful as the old klan, but there is an undeniable power to this image that is even more undeniable when you see it up close. i actually feel lucky. unlike most of the black people in the history of this country who have been present for a cross burning, i get to leave.
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