Skip to main content

tv   Anderson Cooper 360  CNN  April 29, 2016 5:00pm-6:01pm PDT

5:00 pm
start the fire. >> this chop stick is thin, not thick and fat. >> i thought you weren't supposed to do that? >> peter, you're supposed to help me. >> so happy. >> parts unknown, chicago, airs sunday at 9:00. thanks for joining us. ac 360 with john berman starts next. good evening, john berman in for anderson. one hour from now, you'll get to know anderson in a way you have not before. he and his mother, gloria vanderbilt are featured in a fascinating new documentary, conversation between mother and son about their lives and losses, called "nothing left unsaid." it airs at 9:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn. we will have a preview later in this program. but we begin in california where there was another clear sign today of the passion that donald trump's political rise
5:01 pm
inspired. today hundreds of protesters kept trump from walking in the front door of the hotel where he spoke to the floor of the california convention. some of them carried mexican flags. when he launched the campaign, he called mexicans rapists and criminals. the motorcade pulled over, he walked through a back entrance. the trump show must go on, go on it did. trump made what sounded like a joke about immigration, one of the very issues that caused so much anger. >> reporter: tonight tensions are rising in california. a large group of demonstrators flooding the streets outside the california republican convention, protesting donald trump's appearance. >> that was not the easiest entrance i've ever made. >> reporter: the gop frontrunner's motorcade dodging the crowds, trump forced to exit and enter on foot to avoid the protesters. >> we went under a fence,
5:02 pm
through a fence. oh boy. felt like i was crossing the border. >> reporter: with the protests occurring a day after hundreds protested in costa mesa. all of this as trump sells his candidacy to gop insiders, one of the last primary states on june 7th that could play a decisive role in delivering trump the 1237 delegates he needs to secure the nomination. >> we have far more votes than anybody else, far more delegates than anybody else, and we're going to hit that number i think quite easily. >> as trump focuses on closing out the race in california, ted cruz is slogging it out in the trenches in indiana. his campaign sees tuesday's primary crucial to blocking trump's path to the nomination, and pushing the race toward a contested convention. the senator is pulling out all the stops.
5:03 pm
>> i think governor mike pence is an optimistic, positive, unifying force. >> reporter: cruz picking up the support of indiana governor mike pence. >> i'm not against anybody, but i will be voting for ted cruz. >> reporter: but pence's endorsement, lukewarm. >> whoever wins the republican nomination for president of the united states, i am going to work my heart out to get elected this fall. >> reporter: also offering plenty of praise for trump. >> i particularly want to commend donald trump who i think has given voice to the frustration of millions of working americans with a lack of progress in washington, d.c. >> reporter: trump who courted and hoped for endorsement of pence. >> i met with him, he may not endorse. i don't think he'll endorse anybody actually. and he may endorse us. >> reporter: not quite enough on cruz. >> have we branded this guy or
5:04 pm
what. probably, i see him walking into the beautiful gardens in washington, said hey, lying ted, how you doing. >> saving the fiercest fire for hillary clinton, intensifying attacks on his general election rival. >> no, crooked hillary she said very strongly i don't like the tone of donald trump, the tone. now, she is shouting all night long, reading off teleprompters. >> reporter: taunting clinton over twitter, calling her the most dishonest person to have ever run for the presidency and one of the all time great enablers, as trump adopts a softer tone against bernie sanders. >> i really want to beat her more than sanders. >> that was sunlen serfaty. she said there were tense moments outside the hotel where donald trump spoke to the california convention today as protesters descended on the scene, one teacher said
5:05 pm
protesters are up said about the division trump is causing. jason carroll has more. what can you tell us about the protests outside today? >> reporter: i can tell you it was tense. that's really theay to describe it, john. as we were standing out here in the lobby at the hyatt, imagine what it is like as you stand here and you've got officers, sheriff's department deputies in riot gear as some of the protesters made their way in front of the hyatt. hundreds of them throwing eggs at one point, blocking the street at another point. we witnessed two people being arrested, one thrown on his stomach, screaming you're breaking my arm, you're breaking my arm. you come to a state convention, you expect to hear more about policy. this is not what you expect to see and hear, but this is what we heard here today, heard it again yesterday, saw it again yesterday, we saw hundreds of protesters there as well. a number of protesters said they have the right to voice their opinion but not in this way.
5:06 pm
donald trump speaking to the state convention, said as you heard there, saying he had to crawl through a fence with secret service to get through a side entrance, at one point telling those that came out here look, they advised me not to come, i said i am going to come and speak, he didn't want to let those that came to hear him down. >> you had a chance to be inside the hall. how did this play, what was going on outside and inside with donald trump, what was the reaction? >> reporter: you expected to hear something, five people arrested in all outside in front of the hotel, in front of the hyatt. trump as you saw addressed it with the crowd, making light of it, making a joke about it. it went over two ways, look, he didn't win over some of those that are here that thought he could do more to talk about unity, but i have to tell you embolden and strengthen those that support trump. they feel he handled it the right way in terms of making light about it, making a joke
5:07 pm
about it. in terms of coming to the state convention, did he win over some of those that came out here? not likely, but those that support him support him stronger now than before. >> thanks so much. a lot to talk about with the panel. joining me, congressman rick lazio, ran against hillary clinton in 2007, and tara set mayor and errol lewis. td protests at trump events are still before the republican primary. is this what will happener greater fashion? i expect so. hillary clinton will want to pivot for the general election. keep in mind some people are deeply wounded and offended, you see mexican flags flying, listen to what the protesters have to say, they are waiting for a chance to confront donald trump.
5:08 pm
today was their opportunity. in addition to pure movement energy, there are people that will follow him from place to place for the rest of the campaign. >> these are protesters protesting donald trump but confrontation with law enforcement that was there to keep them out of the hotel, not like in chicago where trump supporters clashed with trump protesters. still, he made a joke. he said he went to the hotel, had to crawl over the media, go through the back door. felt like crossing the border. smart joke to make given the circumstances? >> i thought it was funny. people take offense at everything. instead of the onus being on trump, why aren't we asking for bernie sanders to endorse this. we see them smashing windows, beating up trump supporters, he had blood all over his face. where are calls for hillary clinton and bernie sanders to condemn these people. instead we talk about a joke
5:09 pm
donald trump made rather than putting culpability where it belongs. >> you have no problem with nonviolent protesters? >> of course. bring those. that's okay. >> i want to ask about another big development. mike pence, i guess call it endorsing ted cruz. mike pence said he would vote for ted cruz. he also said i really, really like donald trump and by the way, you should all vote for whoever you want to vote for. how does this rank as far as endorsements go? >> i think it was important for the cruz campaign to get the endorsement from mike pence. he is in re-election himself, he had to be careful that he didn't offend trump supporters, he needs them to vote for him. i'm sure the cruz campaign would have liked a stronger, more definitive ted cruz is the best person to be president of the united states, i wholeheartedly
5:10 pm
endorse him, he would be best for indiana hoosiers and our state, but i think the cruz campaign will take that. trump didn't get the endorsement. cruz did. anyone that knows mike pence knows he is a modest guy, very mike pence of him to do, he is not very overly excitable about anything. i think the cruz campaign to decide was -- >> as far as endorsements go, you've run for office, how much do they matter. marco rubio got nikki haley's endorsement, didn't win there. scott walker seemed to help ted cruz. where does the endorsement help? >> two things, one, personality and popularity of the person doing the endorsement. in the case of wisconsin, the governor scott walker did endorse relatively early, which made a difference. for weeks beforehand, talk radio
5:11 pm
was pounding on behalf of cruz against trump. the environment was different than the case now. it is more politically benign, not favoring as far as i can tell so much trump or cruz. >> stand by. a lot more to talk about. protesters aren't the only ones trying to stop donald trump. anti-trump pacs are on the air waves in indiana. is this too little too late? also, hillary clinton responds to donald trump's attack, including claim that there's a woman card she's playing. she says she has experience with men that say things like that. >> i'm not going to deal with their temper tantrums, their bullying, their efforts to try to provoke me. he can say whatever he wants to say about me. i could really care less. i take pictures of sunrises,
5:12 pm
but with my back pain i couldn't sleep and get up in time. then i found aleve pm. aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. i'm back. aleve pm for a better am.
5:13 pm
t-mobile does data differently. so it can do more for your business. when work takes you across the globe, your unlimited data travels with you to 140 plus countries and destinations at no extra charge. and that's not all. because with t-mobile there's no overages. ever. switch your business to t-mobile at work. and get four lines. with 10gb of 4g lte data each for just $35 per line. nobody does business data like t-mobile.
5:14 pm
i thodid the ancestrydna toian. find out i'm only 16% italian. so i went onto ancestry, soon learned that one of our ancestors was eastern european. this is my ancestor who i didn't know about. [so i use quickbooks and run mye entire business from the cloud. i keep an eye on sales and expenses from anywhere. even down here in the dark i can still see we're having a great month. and celebrate accordingly. i run on quickbooks.that's how i own it. ...to put in dr. scholl's active series insoles. they help reduce wear and tear on my legs, becuase they have triple zone protection. ... and reduce shock by 40%. so i feel like i'm ready to take on anything.
5:15 pm
voters in indiana head to the polls in four days. randy kay reports. >> if you don't want donald trump to win, your choice comes down to this. math. >> reporter: in the hoosier state, donald trump has a target on his back. >> polls show trump could lose heavily republican states like
5:16 pm
mississippi and utah. >> reporter: trump is the focus of at least three anti-trump pacs, all trying to deny him a win in indiana. >> trump scammed students, he'll scam america, too. >> reporter: pacs are hitting voters with digital blasts, direct mailers, television attack ads. this one aimed at women voters. >> bimbo. >> dog. >> fat pig. >> real quotes from donald trump about women. >> a person that is very flat chested is hard to be a ten. >> it is an expensive gamble. our principles fact says they're spending ten figures. another shelling out 1.5 million for ads. the strategy in indiana is similar to that used by anti-trump groups in the wisconsin primary, and they say it worked there. trump lost that state to cruz. with indiana being a winner takes most contest, these pacs are trying to slow trump's delegate count enough to force
5:17 pm
contested convention. money well spent or too little too late? as it stands now, trump needs 47% of the remaining delegates to clinch the nomination, compared to cruz who needs 132%. statistically impossible. kasich needs 215% of the delegates remaining. even so, the never trump pac still believes trump can be stopped, despite the fact he has been winning delegates recently at a rate of 49%. >> we don't stop trying to make sure that the candidate that's at the top of the republican ticket is somebody who will not only reflect the party but support candidates in the fall. >> reporter: at this deli in indianapolis, we showed voters the ads. >> do you think that has impact on voters making their decision? >> i doubt it. i think the voters already made up their mind based on what they've seen or heard, who
5:18 pm
they're going to vote for. >> too little too late? >> if you ask me do i think ted cruz can overtake trump, no. >> we showed this voter the ad aimed at women. >> you have to treat them like [bleep]. >> this is how donald trump talks about our mothers. >> our sisters, our daughters. >> would it make you not want to vote for donald trump? >> of course. i don't want a person talking lime that, to say the things he said as far as women is -- >> trump seems poised to take the heat. randi kaye, cnn, indianapolis. >> thanks. according to latest delegate estimates, donald trump reached a milestone on the way to 1237 delegates. delegates continue to be awarded, he now has more than 1002 to be exact, according to cnn estimates.
5:19 pm
back with the panel now. congressman, a thousand delegates, getting closer and closer by the day. the never trump movement, they've had a tough couple weeks. new york, five other states went to trump in big numbers. will indiana be different? >> it will be a fire wall. they'll spend millions in indiana to convince voters that donald trump doesn't have republican values, number one, and number two, will lead to electoral disaster for the party, not just the top of the ticket, losing the senate and maybe the house. that will be the message laid out. they'll talk about hispanic voters, the controversy, but right now he is 12% favorable with hispanics. women, 70% unfavorable. these are powerful numbers. they'll try to make the case, try to go to california and build momentum and slow things up enough to have contested convention. >> ted cruz has gone to
5:20 pm
unprecedented ends to win indiana, named a running mate months before the convention when he is not winning. he is not calling it alliance with john kasich. he got the endorsement of mike pence. he has done everything he can. if ted cruz loses indiana, is he done wednesday? >> it will be a challenge. i don't know that he will necessarily give up. he will stay as long as he has money through california, even though the path will be very narrow. i don't think he will necessarily drop out then. it is crucial. indiana is important tuesday. after indiana donald trump doesn't have as much momentum going into california so may is less friendly territory for donald trump. you're a boston red sox fan, i use this analogy, yankee fan, in 2004, they were up 3-0, who came back, boston red sox 4-0, never
5:21 pm
done before. ain't over until it is over. hate to use the analogy but it is accurate. >> some insiders are starting to fall in line behind donald trump, picking up endorsement of two committee chairman. donald trump at the convention talking about the need for unity, maybe not full throated. listen to what he said. >> it's coming to an end. i think it's going to come to an end really soon. really, i speak to the people in this room, there has to be unity in our party. there has to be unity in our party. with that being said, would i win, can i win without it? i think so to be honest, i think so. >> there has to be, but i don't need it if there's not. is that the best way to get unity? >> i think it is fiction that there won't be unity, there's not unity in a small movement of some politicians, it is a small
5:22 pm
cadre, that's why in a state ted cruz won like wisconsin, majority said whoever gets most of the popular vote deserves to be the nominee, aka donald trump. ted cruz won't surpass him. it is a small group that define by being negative. they're there to take down a candidate. there will be unity, maybe not in the pundits or small group of politicians but there's unity in the party. >> the committee chairman, interesting to see them coming on board, literally endorsing donald trump. you have people like marco rubio softening their language, saying that his performance has improved significantly. is this coalescing? >> i don't know that i use the word coalescing. there are people who have a political future, want to be sure they have a political future that may have to include donald trump. there's no percentage in going
5:23 pm
against a popular nominee if he becomes a popular nominee. there's certainly no percentage going against a sitting president of the united states of your own party. they have to hedge their bets. it depends who you talk to. talk to senators that are running and are in trouble, pat toomeys of the world, they won't have anything nice to say. they'll make peace with a changing fluid situation. when we get to the convention, that's when you see people put their cards -- >> pat toomey said he voted ted cruz. didn't say much more. former senator from new hampshire was supporting john kasich, said i am not going to the convention at all now, sick of the whole thing. i would vote donald trump in general election but not vote ted cruz in any circumstances. are you beginning to see a never cruz movement? we had the comments from john boehner that called ted cruz lus fer. >> two unpopular candidates for
5:24 pm
the nomination. that's the reality. look at more generally hillary clinton and donald trump will be two of the most unpopular nominees of major parties in history. >> the voters bowed to their choices, to john mccain and mitt romney. it turned out a miserable failure. time for the establishment, john boehner and everyone to stop. >> i agree there's a collapse of trust in institutions and to some extent the establishment, they have less influence than they did in past times. there's an argument to be made looking at independent polls, almost all of them donald trump loses by double digits against hillary clinton. if you're somebody who believes in the cause, you say what does it look like to have -- >> and also down ballot matters. i talked to plenty of people in d.c. looking at senate races, congressional races going oh, my god, we are going to focus on
5:25 pm
this. if hillary clinton wins and we lose the house and senate, god help us. that's something that's very important and real. we're not getting over anything. there's consequences, elections have consequences, and you have to look beyond what seems to be en vogue and popular. >> and he wasn't concerned about his own election, might have been a more full throated endorsement to ted cruz. just ahead. donald trump signaling he is getting ready to court bernie sanders supporters. is that for real? just more bluster? does he have a shot at winning them over? our vitamins contain no gluten, dairy or artificial flavors. so we invented a word that means that. shmorange. and it rhymes with the color of our bottle. hey, baby, make it your first word!
5:26 pm
sfx: baby speak not even close. reach for the orange, it's 100% shmorange! real is touching a ray. amazing is moving like one. real is making new friends. amazing is getting this close. real is an animal rescue. amazing is over twenty-seven thousand of them. there is only one place where real and amazing live. seaworld. real. amazing from virtually anywhere. to warn of danger it's been smashed and driven. it's perceptive enough to detect other vehicles on the road. it's been shaken and pummeled. it's innovative enough to brake by itself, park itself and help you steer. it's been in the rain... and dragged through the mud. the 2016 gle. it's where brains meet brawn.
5:27 pm
lease the gle350 for $599 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. i'vand i'm doing just fine. allergies. claritin provides 24-hour relief of symptoms that can be triggered by over 200 allergens. yeah, over 200 allergens! with claritin my allergies don't come between me and victory. live claritin clear. xerox personalized employee portals help companies! make benefits simple and accessible... from anywhere. hula dancing? cliff jumping! human resources can work better. with xerox. which allergy? eees. bees? eese. trees? eese. xerox helps hospitals use electronic health records so doctors provide more personalized care. cheese? cheese! patient care can work better. with xerox. that's it.
5:28 pm
is our partnership with habitat for humanity. pg&e is committed to clean energy and part of that commitment our mission is to build homes, community and hope.
5:29 pm
our homeowners are low-income families, so the ability for them to have lower energy cost is wonderful. we have been able to provide about 600 families with solar on their homes. that's over nine and a half million dollars of investment by pg&e, and that allows us to provide clean energy for everyone here. it's been a great partnership. together, we're building a better california. fair to say this has been a pivotal week in the primary race. hillary clinton and donald trump super sized their leads tuesday after cleaning up. bernie sanders signals his focus is on influencing his party's platform at the convention. meanwhile, donald trump appears to be angling winning over senator sanders' supporters. here's what he told msnbc days after winning all five primaries in the northeast. >> bernie sanders has a message
5:30 pm
that's interesting, i'm going to be taking a lot of things bernie said and using them. i can reread some of his speeches, i can get some very good material. >> trump's campaign manager says trump and sanders share the same feels with voters that are disenfranchised. trump and sanders would have overlap, voters feeling the bern aren't cheering for a wall on the border. here is what hillary clinton told cnn's jake tapper today. >> you don't believe in climate change, it is hard to go after people that don't believe in it. if you don't believe in raising minimum wage, think wages are too high in america, i don't think you have much of an argument. if you are demeaning women, don't believe equal pay is an issue, you are really insulting to women, i don't see how that adds up either. >> secretary clinton doesn't sound worried, but is there a chance trump's plan could work? errol lewis, and naomi con sta,
5:31 pm
bernie sanders supporters. errol, you hear him run in the primary saying i am going after bernie sanders voters, might it work? >> there's something to it. something like 7% of sanders supporters may vote trump. that's what they've told polsters. certain issues around free trade, there's a rhyming to it. there's a logical basis for it. but almost overwhelmed by all of the other kinds of issues with women. hillary clinton started to make the case in the clip you showed. th points to a strategic issue trump has. he starts with the tricky map john mccain, mitt romney had. he has to pull independents and states that trended democratic. how is he going to do it. this is one possible answer of what he might try. i don't think it is promising. he has to come up with something
5:32 pm
else. >> you are a bernie sanders supporter, talking about legalizing marijuana. >> not the only issue. >> not saying it is, that's a big cheer. >> talking 80% under the age of 50. millennials, most educated and diverse generation in history, not voting donald trump. and very well likely won't be supporting hillary clinton either. that's her issue. it is not just about wooing women and blue collar voters, it is wooing independents. these democrats that are against free trade, want a more transparent democratic party,
5:33 pm
they're being wood by donald trump. >> charles, we talked about the anger at washington. insiders versus outsiders. bernie sanders and donald trump are outsiders. is there a way to tap into this, at a minimum get people to stay home and not go out for hillary? >> not that he can do that. people will make their own decision about staying home or supporting clinton or not. if there's a far left, bernie sanders is that far left. it would be a big leap to swallow sexism, xenophobia. demagogue, you take the whole of it, particularly if a person that can be wooed.
5:34 pm
in any election, there are staunch supporters of any candidate or platform. they're issue voters. they've decided who to vote for six months out. people on the edge can be wooed. they're not being wooed by the issues. the issues voters are decided. if you are wooed by character, personality, they're adamantly opposed. some of the things secretary clinton talked about, if you're opposed, don't believe in climate change, that's a problem. if you have demeaned women to that degree and you're looking at the left, leftwing, that's mostly women. that's a problem. you can't do that. the last "the washington post" poll had 13% rating for trump
5:35 pm
voters. that's saying i don't detest you. >> we will talk more about this race, particularly the women's issue. hillary clinton is talking about donald trump's attacks, what she had to say about the name calling and what they both call the woman card when 360 continues. ♪ i like it. wait, you shot that? your sister shot this? she calls it, "onions." it's beautiful.
5:36 pm
and it's just an onion. put this on our homepage now. people need to see this. the rules of cinema have changed. this is the work of a major artist. i heard she shot the whole thing on an iphone. i'm gonna make a movie about snap peas. who's gonna watch a movie about snap peas? can i have three tickets for "onions" please? this was like seeing the onion on a molecular level. this is talent. why are we not representing it? now i know the truth. [crying] ¡tan bonitas! 4k on an iphone, wake up people! that's poetry. and the winner is... no surprise here, "onions." [cheering] ♪ this woman... this cancer patient... christine... living her life... loving her family. moments made possible in part by the breakthrough science of advanced genomic testing. after christine exhausted the standard treatment
5:37 pm
options for her disease, doctors working with the center for advanced individual medicine at cancer treatment centers of america suggested advanced genomic testing. the test results revealed a finding that led to the use of a targeted therapy that was not considered for christine before. now, they're helping fight her cancer on another, deeper level... the genetic level. this is precision cancer treatment, an approach to care that may help patients like christine enjoy the things that matter most in their lives while undergoing treatment. the evolution of cancer care is here. that's definitely something worth celebrating. learn more about precision cancer treatment at cancercenter.com. appointments are available now.
5:38 pm
5:39 pm
more now with jake tapper's interview with hillary clinton. the frontrunner fired back when asked about donald trump's tactics, specifically accusations about the woman's card and his name calling. >> i have a lot of experience dealing with men f experience dealing with men who sometimes get off the reservation in the way they behave and how they speak. i'm not going to deal with their temper tantrums or their bullying or efforts to try to provoke me. he can say whatever he wants to say about me. i don't care about his attacks. i got more than 18 million votes first time i ran. i have 2 million more votes than donald trump has, more than 12
5:40 pm
million votes to his 10, so it doesn't really square with reality. as i said tuesday night, if playing the woman's card means standing up for the concerns that women have and that they express to me, deal me in. that's what i have done for decades, what i will do in this campaign. >> jake tapper with hillary clinton. back with the panel. charles, it is interesting. "the new york times" had a story saying the clinton team has been strategizing how to deal with donald trump, and the strategy says to pair but not go to 11 on every attack. is that what we saw here? >> i think she -- being a woman in politics, i can only imagine how difficult it is. but you know, she is having to walk a tight rope here, if she comes across too aggressive, fighting back, it is a negative. if she doesn't fight back
5:41 pm
enough, a negative. women are held to a different standard than men are. if a man was attacking another man with this sort of language or woman was attacking a man with this language as palin did with obama, you can fight back. fighting back in this way when being attacked by a man i think becomes tricky for her. they're having to calibrate to make sure they get the tone right. >> they're fund raising off it. hillary clinton in her speech tuesday talked about the women's card, deal me in. now the clinton campaign is selling woman's cards. >> i opened up the e-mail this morning, had three e-mails, all using his attacks as fund raising mechanisms. i challenge them to go beyond fund-raising, use it as an organizing mechanism. the message can be distilled more. talk about economic issues and how they hurt women and women of
5:42 pm
color, young women. that's where hillary clinton is struggling, not about pandering to the next generation, but understanding where they're coming from, the fact that young women, difference between $12 and $15 minimum wage is a gas bill. that's what the difference is. we have to go beyond this high level elitist world that my generation is accustomed to dealing with and understand the economics of this election hurt young women. >> errol, trump campaign made clear they're going after the clintons hard, very hard perhaps. he has no problem bringing up bill clinton's marital in discretions, called her an enabler in a tweet this week. but we have on file some interviews he did a lot of years ago when bill clinton was going through impeachment and this is what he said then. >> i think she has been through more than any woman should have to bear, anything public. women go through this on a private basis can't take it,
5:43 pm
she's on the front page of every newspaper with what went on in washington. i think she's a wonderful woman. >> you said wow. we watched that together, nobody said wow when you hear that. interesting, you hear that donald trump then versus now. >> i am sure they have dvrs, ready to go in an ad and possibly in the general election if it comes to that. this is something that donald trump, when he says things like the woman's card, he is talking to the group in front of him, maybe the larger group of his base, for where he is now in the republican primary, he is doing what he probably needs to do from his point of view to get the delegates he needs to be the nominee. the day after that to be successful, has to deal with that, walk it back, go another direction, hope hillary doesn't take advantage but we all know she will. >> you see donald trump using the general election to close out the primary. er obviously lewis, charles,
5:44 pm
nomi, thank you. what led to the raid on osama bin laden unfolded. peter bergen next. was only 16% he was 34% eastern european. so i went onto ancestry, soon learned that one of our ancestors we thought was italian was eastern european. this is my ancestor who i didn't know about. he looks a little bit like me, yes. ancestry has many paths to discovering your story. get started for free at ancestry.com it's my job and it's i takealso my passion.rises. but with my back pain i couldn't sleep... so i couldn't get up in time.
5:45 pm
then i found aleve pm. aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12-hour strength of aleve... for pain relief that can last into the morning. and now... i'm back. aleve pm for a better am. customer service!d. ma'am. this isn't a computer... wait. you're real? with discover card, you can talk to a real person in the u.s., like me, anytime. wow. this is a recording. really? no, i'm kidding. 100% u.s.-based customer service. here to help, not to sell.
5:46 pm
and with touch id it does way more than unlock your phone. it logs you into things, like your bank account. see what i mean? it checks you into your flight. ooop, your phone! it pays for stuff like... (mouth full) doughnuts. how about chew then talk. it unlocks things for you. it signs documents for you. hey, you bought a boat! i bought a boat! i just said that. and it does this. yeah, it starts your car. so now we're just starting cars with our fingerprints. just. whoa. that's why i run on quickbooks. details. i use the payments app to accept credit cards... ...and everything autosyncs. those sales prove my sustainable designs are
5:47 pm
better for the environment and my bottom line. that's how i own it. helps preparey themng right for a healthy future. but up to 90% fall short in getting key nutrients ... ...from food alone. let's do more. add one a day men's ... ...complete multivitamin. with vitamin d and magnesium to help support healthy blood pressure. one a day. you can fly across welcome town in minutes16, or across the globe in under an hour. whole communities are living on mars and solar satellites provide earth with unlimited clean power. in less than a century, boeing took the world from seaplanes to space planes, across the universe and beyond. and if you thought that was amazing, you just wait. ♪
5:48 pm
monday is the five year anniversary of the raid that got osama bin laden, the leader wanted for the 9/11 attacks. peter bergen got unprecedented access to the white house, talked with key members of the team with president obama who were in "the situation room" when it unfolded. the story part of a special report monday on cnn, including never published before photos of the raid. the success capturing bin laden outweighed the risks. >> it was clear to me this was our best chance to get bin laden, that if, in fact, we did not take the action that he
5:49 pm
might slip away and might be years before he resurfaced. i had confidence we could get our guys back. we knew it was going to cause some significant blow back within pakistan and that if it wasn't bin laden, probably costs would outweigh the benefits, and we would lose face internationally because there was probably going to be a lot of difficulty keeping it secret once the operation started. >> had a chance to speak with peter bergen earlier. you had unprecedented access in a way to the president, not to mention parts of the white house people don't normally get to see. what did you see and beyond the president, who did you talk to? >> to be in the "the situation room," which he has never done before, most people don't understand the "the situation
5:50 pm
room" in the movies, there's also a small "the situation room" where the iconic photograph was taken. we also talked in there. then he took us down, connects the west to the east wing through the rose garden, talked about how you could hear -- they didn't know how it was going to go down. they were surprised when they heard cheers from the crowd outside. amazing tour of the white house with the president, doesn't happen often. >> he made the final decision, there were so many other people in the room at the time speaking to in the days and weeks. >> we had first in depth interview with the architect of the raid. and everybody had a huge amount of confidence in him. we also sat down with director brenner, tapper, head of national intelligence, susan rice, national security adviser, hillary clinton, so we got 360
5:51 pm
degree view of not only the bin laden raid and what happened since. >> you know more about that raid than pretty much anyone on planet earth. were there things you didn't know you learned in these conversations? >> yes. the night, the raid, the reaction. having first person account, at the end of the day he made the decision. >> how about being safer than as americans five years ago. >> i think the asset is we are a hell of a lot safer than 9/11, eliminating the head of al qaeda was a big deal. >> you know, the president is often described as even keeled, people call him like spock from star trek. what about how he thinks about the order to kill osama bin laden. does he get all emotional about
5:52 pm
the thought of the death of bin laden? >> no, that was not something he agonized about. >> did the president get any satisfaction along those lines? >> no, there was no high fives in "the situation room." this was a serious moment. the final thing the president said in the interview was that it gave him satisfaction to think that in his final moments bin laden would have realized that an american had come to take revenge or seek justice for the 3,000 americans who were killed on 9/11. >> never heard that before. very interesting. peter bergen, looking forward to the special. thanks so much. don't miss that exclusive report, anderson cooper 360 special "we got him." president obama, bin laden, and the future of the war on terror. nothing left unsaid. an extraordinary documentary
5:53 pm
about gloria vanderbilt and anderson cooper and losses they lived through together. in your mutual fund. we invested in your fund to help us pay for a college education for our son. we've enclosed a picture of our son so that you can get a sense there are real people out here trusting you with their hard-earned money. ♪ at fidelity, we don't just manage money, we manage people's money. ♪ this just got interesting. why pause to take a pill? or stop to find a bathroom? cialis for daily use is approved to treat both erectile dysfunction and the urinary symptoms of bph,
5:54 pm
like needing to go frequently, day or night. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, or adempas for pulmonary hypertension, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any symptoms of an allergic reaction, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis and a $200 savings card stop taking cialis and get medical hfind fast relief behind the counter allergies with nasal congestion? with claritin-d. [ upbeat music ] strut past that aisle for the allergy relief that starts working in as little as 30 minutes and contains the best oral decongestant. live claritin clear, with claritin-d.
5:55 pm
5:56 pm
anderson is off tonight, but not entirely. in a few minutes, anderson and his mother share their remarkable life story in the hbo documentary "nothing left unsaid." this is a window into their past and present, lives and losses,
5:57 pm
they also wrote a book together, a conversation they began when anderson's mother was 91. both the book and documentary are intimate portraits of mother and son and the bond they share. i had a chance to talk to anderson about the labors of love. so your mother lived a full life to say the least, several lives of life. in talking to her, was there anything you didn't know? >> i didn't know a lot of the details. my mom didn't speak about her past, childhood when i was growing up. a lot of details, men she had been involved with i didn't know about. >> did it come up in conversation? >> i remember watching robin hood with errol flynn and saying did you ever know errol flynn, oh, yes, drifted off. didn't go into details. i think her past was so in some ways very painful for her and
5:58 pm
you know, she spent much of her life kind of reworking it, regoing through it, reprocessing it, and a lot of things in the artwork and that comes out in the film. >> one of my favorite sequences is in the beginning, you walk in to do the kind of interview you've done thousands of times in your life but it is your mother in the chair. you both look at each other like are we sure we want to be doing this? >> it is a strange thing to sit down and interview your mom. i hope the film encourages and the book we wrote together, i hope it encourages people to ask questions, to particularly to an aging parent. so many people have no idea what their parents' lives have been like. you see them through a particular lens. before it is too late, to sit down, ask questions, get to know them, my mom in the film talks about a fantasy that her father left her a letter, her father died when she was 15 months old.
5:59 pm
had a fantasy all her life that her father left her a letter that would show up one day, saying what he was like, what he thought about her and hoped for her. what's strange for me, i had the same fantasy about my dad, that he would leave me a letter, and my mom and i never discussed it. that was just one of many things that, you know, you start to see this person in a whole new way and learn things about yourself. >> finally she dressed you up in a lot of funny stuff. i saw a soldier outfit. >> i dressed in costumes my entire childhood. >> my question, two questions. a, do you resent her and b, do you still enjoy that? >> if i could wear costumes every day, if i could come dressed as a bunny rabbit, i would. i was obsessed with military history, would dress up as a soldier from various armies, and dressed like a knight. in will recently i started to
6:00 pm
look at the photos when i was a kid, seems like i was in a costume every day. it is strange. >> anderson cooper, thanks to talking to me on your show. >> thanks. that does it for us. thanks for watching. "nothing left unsaid" starts now. ♪