paul ryan drops a bomb on donald trump, this is "cnn tonight", i'm don lemon. the house speaker is just not in to donald trump. not yet anyway. he says he can't support his party's nominee, and trump says he can't support his agenda. who will come out on top in the gop's civil war, and can the party be saved. plus, hillary clinton has more to deal with than just bernie sanders. the fbi interviewing huma abedin. soon they'll interview hillary clinton herself. but let's listen now to the

interview that's turning the gop upside down tonight. jake tapper's exclusive interview with house speaker paul ryan. >> you have said throughout this process that you will support the republican presidential nominee. now you have a presumptive nominee, donald trump, will you support him? >> well, to be perfectly candid with you, jake, i'm just not ready to do that yet, i'm not there right now. i hope to though, and i want to, but i think what is required is that we unify this party. and i think the bulk of the burden of unifying the party will have to come from our presumptive nominee. i don't want to underplay what he's accomplished. he needs to congratulated for a huge accomplishment, he's on his way to winning a majority of delegates, but he inherited something that's very special to all of us. this is the party of lincoln, reagan and jack kemp.

we hope our nomination is lincoln and reaganesque, that they embrace the principles of our party and applies to the vast majority of our voters. to take our principles and advance them. and that's what we want to see. saying we're unified doesn't actually unify us, but taking the principles we all believe in, showing there's a dedication to those, and running a presidential campaign that republicans can be proud about and can appeal to the majority of americans, that, to me, is what it takes to unify this party. >> so you're saying you can't support or endorse him right now. >> yeah, i am basically saying that. look, that's, you know, i thought about this two days ago. i thought, actually, this thing was going to go to june 7 at the very least, probably to a convention, so this is all pretty new to us. but at this point, i think that he needs to do more to unify

this party, to bring all wings of the republican party together and then to go forward and to appeal to all americans and every walk of life, every background, a majority of independents and discerning democrats, and so, i think conservatives want to know, does he share our values and our principles on limited government, the proper role of the executive. adherence to the constitution. there are a lot of questions that conservatives i think are going to want answers to, myself included. and i want to be part of this unifying process. i want to help unify this party, but we have to unify it, i think, for us to be successful, for us to have a campaign that republicans are proud of going forward, that is unifiable and that actually can go and appeal to a vast majority of americans. >> well, mr. speaker, you're casting this in characterly optimistic and positive terms, and i could expect no less from you, but that the speaker of the

house cannot as of now support his party's nominee for president, is there something specific that he has done or said that has brought you to this moment? >> well, like i said, i hope to support our nominee, i hope to support his candidacy fully, and i want to do that, but right now, i got to tell you, jake, just being candid with you, at this point, i'm just not there right now. the question is, can our presumptive nominee turn things around, unify and have a different kind of cadence going forward. the way i look at this, jake, is it's time to go from tapping into anger to channeling that anger into solutions. it's time to set aside bullying and belittlement and appeal to higher aspirations, appeal to what is good in us and lead a country and party to having a vast majority of americans enthusiastic about choosing a path. that's why i feel so strongly of the choice that we have in front of us, but for this to work our

presumptive nominee, i believe, needs to unify the party for the party to be unified. and i want to help him do that. >> do you think that's possible? >> we're not there right now. yeah. i think it's possible. but we're not there right now. i think we can beat hillary clinton. are you kidding she me? so it needs to be possible because so much is at stake. >> you don't think the damage has been done. you don't think that so much damage has been done that it's almost as if it's a lost cause, because it seems to me from hearing from people like mitt romney and ted cruz the other day call donald trump a pathological liar on the eve of him winning it all. donald trump was attacks his father and suggesting that rafael cruz might have played a role in the kennedy assassination. it doesn't seem like there are going to be, it's going to be

possible to build that many bridges. you disagree? >> i'm familiar with the points you're making. that is why, among other reasons, basically, as a conservative, i want to see a verification that our conservative principles will be championed, will be run on, will be represented. and will be brought to the public and the country in a way that's appealing for us to be successful. so, like i said, we're not there yet, but look, this man is going to get the nomination, because he earned it. he deserved it. he won the vote. and more importantly, i think those of us need to learn a few lessons here. i think tre's a bit of humanitarian th humility. people are sending a message to washington that we need to learn from and listen to, but now at the same time, now that we have a presumptive nominee who's going to be our standard bearer, i think's important that our standards be bared.

that he would have the proper role of executive, the principles that not only built our party but this country and how we're going to apply those principles to offer solutions and run a campaign that republicans can be proud of and americans can be proud of. yes, looking back on the primary campaign, there are episodes that question that, which is why i at this point many not ram no jump in. >> the political world is reeling from that. the speaker says he can't get behind donald trump, at least not yet. have you ever seen anything like this? >> no, and i think we have to stop for a second. this is one of those moments in the campaign, don, where something like this happens, you stop and take a deep breath. this campaign has had a lot of white noise, a lot of rhetoric. him coming out there and saying this about donald trump is very, very interesting.

trump's reaction to it was even more interesting, because donald trump could have used this opportunity to force speaker ryan into his tent. however, he chose to push paul ryan away a little bit. and now what we have is this civil war that's going to continue. >> let's take a look at donald trump's reaction. i'm not ready to support speaker ryan's ajean da. perhaps in the future we can work together and come to an agreement about what is best for the american people. they have been treated so badly for so long that it's about time for politicians to put them first. okay. so it is a power struggle. who wins this power struggle? or do they both lose? what happens here? >> i think donald trump would have been more successful from a strategic standpoint to say, you know what? speaker ryan is absolutely correct in what he says. we're not going to agree with everything that speaker ryan says. >> you're asking donald trump not to be donald trump. >> correct. there's been a lot of questions about donald trump, can he be

presidential. ronald reagan said you don't have to agree with everything with me, you have to agree with most things. had donald trump come out and said that, it would have forced paul ryan into his camp and served as a bridge for those who don't think donald trump should be their none knminee. >> is he thinking of his own presidential aspiration down the line? >> he's very young. he was on a ticket already. he was the vice president running mate for mitt romney. he has a big future ahead of him if he so chooses. he's the speaker of the house. he's steps away from be being the president. however, paul ryan is a disciple of jack kemp, the all-star quarterback who went on to crass. >> a big tent conservative. >> let's reach out to the poor, to minorities. we don't have to have hateful rhetoric. >> about a border wall, stopping

immigration from temporary, banning muslims from coming into the country, that doesn't play with paul ryan. >> that doesn't play, and in fact, it's to that language, paul ryan said something along the lines, that's not where we are as a party. now that's not to say that paul ryan isn't extremely conservative, he is. it's just that he and donald trump are literally 180 degrees apart. >> so it paul ryan misreading the party right now? and is, does donald trump damage the party in the way that paul ryan wants the party to go? >> i think it's still too early right now. look at, i think that -- >> that's two questions. i understand that. >> we are seeing divisions in the republican party right now, where we're seeing friends become enemies, where they're taking upsides. there's the anti-trump movement and the fall in line movement. look at mitch mcconnell, the senate republican leader. he got behind donald trump, grudgingly, but he did it. at the same time, less than 24 hours later we see paul ryan, the leader of the house

republicans go the other way. >> john mccain says he's in the fight. he's facing the campaign, the battle of his life in arizona. what does this mean for the gop house, the senate races down the line, does it make it harder for them? >> they will probably lose house seats anyway. but if you look at the senate, states such as ohio, new hampshire, wisconsin, all states right now, pennsylvania, where these candidates could be in trouble if donald trump turns out to be a bad leader at the top of the ticket. >> you kind of know what you're talking about. >> if you are just making it up, it is not a lie. >> when we come back, some conservatives are singing the third-party blues, but is it too late for another candidate to enter the race? and who would take up that challenge?

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house speaker paul ryan telling cnn that he is not ready to support donald trump as the gop's nominee. here to discuss that is spokesperson for conservatives against trump and kaylee mcinny who is supporting trump. welcome to the show. >> thank you for having me. >> absolutely. your organization has been calling for a third party alternative for weeks. do you think paul ryan's

comments today add fuel to that fire? >> we haven't exactly been calling for a third party candidate. we said we've been pursuing a number of different options, we've been studying strategies and options for many weeks now, and we're certainly not going to, at this point, reveal our full strategy via the media, but i expect that, our objective up to now was to stop donald trump from getting the nomination, and by the way, he is still the presumptive nominee, until he's ratified at the convention, and we still do have two months. anything can happen now to then. i assume he probably will be. but our focus has been on that up till now. >> does this help your cause? >> what, what -- >> paul ryan's comments? >> i think that's the first of many that we have heard and that we're going to hear throughout the last 48 hours. i think this is clearly the most significant. and i think there's a very clear

reason why he is doing that. i think he's hearing great concern from his members. that's what we've been concerned about is down ballot. we're concerned about the country, first of all, and having somebody who doesn't represent our core values, somebody who probably would have run in the democrat party had he known that hillary was going to be in such legal trouble by now. i don't think he would have been running in our party with 17 other candidates. because he hasn't shared our values, and he in fact was a donor to hillary clinton. it doesn't make any sense for him to be the standard bearer of the party of lincoln and reagan. >> so paul ryan says that he cannot endorse donald trump now, he says, but he hopes to be able to do so -- >> well, i think we all would -- >> is there anything donald trump could say or do to convince your group that he is the candidate for the conservative party? >> well, i don't know how you change -- you can't change character. you can't change, you don't know where his ideology is from month to month, from year to year or

even from hour-to-hour. so i don't know how to you change that. that is who he is. and, you know, there's no question that he got ten million votes in the primary, but 15 million people voted for some other candidate. but that's a significant problem. >> if you care at all about conservatism. i heard you say you care about the country, i believe you do. but if you really and truly care about the country, do you not care about preempting hillary clinton to get into the white house, to continue obamacare, to shut down the coal industry, do you not care about those things? moving this country farther and farther left? >> of course, of course. and anybody who knows me knows that i've been in the trenches of the conservative movement for decades now, and i have never wavered in any of my positions, and i can tell you that anybody in our group, we're united on one very particular thing. we're united that we don't think

that donald trump is the person who should be the standard bearer of the party, and none of us is going to vote for donald trump, and none of us is going to vote for hillary clinton. >> why -- >> wait a second, you don't now who i took a stand against. >> i want to know, are you standing against john mccain because of his support of cap and trade, against the bush tax cuts? did you have a never mccain movement? i never heard from you guys. >> hold on a moment. hold on a moment. okay. we haven't met each other yet. i'm happy to meet you today. you're a very intelligent woman, very articulate, but i'm somebody who was in politics for many, many years with senator jesse helms. that's as conservative as you get, and i have been a mom and a wife for the last 20 years, and i have been in and out of the circle, working in the trenches. i have not been public like you

have been for the last several years. >> to her point, why now then, deborah? what is it about donald trump? and what do you say to all those voters, all those republican voters who are going to vote or who is voting for donald trump, what do you say to them? >> well, of course, we'd like to have some of those people. we know those people. those people don't want to vote for hillary clinton, just like we don't want to vote for hillary clinton. but i think that some of them have been duped. i think some of them have probably not followed donald trump as long as i have, and i think that they don't know what they're getting in donald trump. he's entertaining. he had a successful tv show, and i think they like those things. but there's so much more that has not been vetted. >> i'm desperately trying to, deborah, i'm desperately trying to understand how someone can rationalize so never trump, conservatism is being used as a shield, i'm conservative, therefore i can't support this

person. if you were really conservatism, you would have taken a stand against those guisys. >> i have always voted at the e -- >> you cannot compare them to donald trump. >> they do not have anything -- oh, please, please, they don't have, romney, mitt romney, governor romney has nothing in common and. >> govern romney gave the blue print for obamacare. >> but even on rhetoric and tone, i -- >> just character. >> it's a different, you can't compare mitt romney and donald trump or john mccain and donald trump, it's really apples and oranges. >> none of our -- >> up until now, we have -- >> hold on. hold on. let her finish. >> the big difference between those -- >> she's been on for several hours. >> donald trump has run against the party. the voters feel the party failed them. every single exit poll shows the majority of republican voters believe the party failed them.

he had the courage to call out the party leaders. that's the difference. >> donald trump has not been a republican. he has been more, much more in the democrat party. his friends have been from there. he's the biggest insider in the race. he has been indebted to banks and politicians and making deals with banks and politicians his whole life. and he has, his contributions to the clintons and all the way down the line to a bunch of democrat candidates shows where his heart has been, and he's done, he himself says anything to make a deal. you have not seen that in the other candidates. he is somebody who has disparaged just about every group, and you, as a woman, i would think you would be a little more concerned about that. we can't win this election, i'm not going to win the election as a republican at all costs. it depends, who are we supports? it's not just the republicans need to win, the country needs to win. and this is somebody who has

denigrated just about every ethnic group out there from latinos to women, to handicap >> that's the media narrative. >> and romney never did that. not even john mccain did that. >> it's not just a media narrative. these are words that have cop out of donald trump's own mouth. >> the media has been with him. >> stu came on and called donald trump a bigot. you constantly have people saying he's a bigot -- >> it's laughable to say that the media has been against donald trump. >> the voters see through this facade that donald trump is xy or z from week to week. they support him, we're not going to buy this characterization. and i am so proud of voters for seeing through it. >> you've had a couple hours on tv tonight, okay? so let me get a word in edgewise. i haven't had a chance yet. donald trump has been in large measure a creation of the media.

nobody believes you when you say that the media criticizes him all day, because that's just not true. he has had unbelievable support from talk radio, from the very beginning. and from certain news channels who have pumped donald trump all day long. and that's one of the reasons, frankly, the conservatives have been duped is these are some of the shows they listen to. they are some of the shows that i used to listen to. and they have been singing his praises and playing his rallies nonstop from the very first day of this campaign. something we have never seen in campaigns before. >> that's going to have to be the last word, because i have to get to the commercial break. that's just all part of it. thank you. up next, new developments in the fbi's investigations into hillary clinton's private e-mail server used when she was secretary of state.

some more breaking news to tell you about tonight, the fbi interviewed some of hillary clinton's top aides as part of their investigation into her use of a private e-mail server when she was secretary of state. here to talk about that, matt lewis, contributor to "the daily caller", and angela rye. what are your sources telling you tonight? >> we now know that the fbi has reached into the inner most of hillary clinton's inner circle. and they've now interviewed some of her aides. we are told that some of her closest aides have made a trip to the fbi office just a few blocks from where i'm sitting to do these interviews.

and that includes huma abedin, one of the closest and long-standing ai long-standing aides as secretary of state. what all this means, all this activity that's been happening, it indicates that the fbi is close to wrapping up its probe, which is a very big moment, we are told that at this point, you know, they hope to finish this up in the next few weeks, certainly in time before the democratic convention. >> evan, are charges expected to be filed? >> not at this point, don. we're told that investigators have not found evidence to support the idea that she knowingly or willfully violated federal law. that's not to say what she did think thi they think was fine. they clearly believe private server was not a good way to handle classified and sensitive information. but the problem that they face

is that they have to reach a threshold in order to bring charges to show that she willfully violated the law. >> she has not been interviewed yet. has she released a statement? >> she did. her campaign issued a statement similar to what they said before. brian fallon said from the start, hillary clinton has offered to answer any questions that would help the justice department complete its review, and we hope and expect that anyone else who is asked would do the same. we confident that the review will conclude and that nothing inappropriate took place. the decision on whether to bring charges lies with loretta lynch, the attorney general. >> clinton is now focussing on trump on one side, sanders on the other side and now this fbi interview in the coming weeks. what can she do to keep the attention away from her e-mails? >> yeah, she's got to do what she's always done. if hillary clinton were new to a

scandal coming after her and a scandal changing and evolving over time, she would be in real big trouble. but let's be honest, the whole way this e-mail controversy came about was the benghazi special committee. they were in there, looking for something. they started with the e-mails. the e-mails were about benghazi. then it became maybe there's something with the clinton foundation, so they've been on a search to nowhere for quite some time. you've heard congressman cummings talk about their ad nauseam. you've heard republicans say that the special committee was designed to try to derail her presidential candidacy. so here we are now, they still haven't been able to find much through the special committee. we'll see what the interviews turn up, but i don't think at all that she's acting like someone who has something to hide. i think that hillary clinton set up this private server or had it set up because of what she experienced while she was in the white house as first lady, because of what she knew happening throughout the federal

government. we still see hacks. i know when i was a capitol hill staffer, we got the notice that some of your information may have been hacked into. look for i.d. protection. these are types of things that happen. >> i don't want to put words in her mouth. but she believes it's a witch hunt, right? >> absolutely. it started with the benghazi committee. >> even if the investigation is closed, is it too little, too late? is the damage already done here? >> well, i just want to say, i think this is an interesting standard, the standard that hillary clinton had to knowingly be violating classification law for this to be a problem or at least a legal problem. that's interesting, ignorance of the law, you know, look -- >> you can't plead ignorance of the law is what you're saying. >> she's secretary of state, running for president of the united states. i don't care if she knowingly or unknowingly put classified information at jeopardy of being hacked. i think it's a real problem, a

judgment issue. i think it's serious. i think republicans would be smart, let this play out, let the media look into this, let the prosecutors look into this. legally, i think the best thing republicans could do is step aside. you don't want it to be a witch hunt. when has it ever worked for republicans to try to get the clintons on a scandal, politically? >> do we know, evan, if she put classified information at rafx? or is that what they're trying to figure out right now? >> that's one of the things that they're trying to figure out. retroactively, there are thousands of e-mails that were on this server. >> retroactively. >> right, which should never have been on there, don, but here's the thing. classified information is classified. it doesn't matter that it was labeled or wasn't labeled. it's just classified. and the clinton defense has been, when this was sent or received, it wasn't labeled as such, and so this is a problem for her. and it's clear that this is not the way to handle classified or

even sensitive information. this is a political problem, but the problem, what i think republicans are hoping is that this is also a legal problem. what we're addressing here is simply that it may not be a legal problem. it will probably still be a political problem. >> go ahead, angela, a political problem that trump will definitely capitalize on. >> i worked on the homeland security committee. i'm well aware of not only classified but sensitive and unclassified. there are all of these varying levels, and they're confusing. and not only are they confusing on the homeland security committee. they vary from government agency to government agency. so if she received material that was not classified at the time but later classified, that create as whole another issue. it's very, very challenging waters to navigate. that is why on a bipartisan level, they said we have had to deal with classification period. >> doesn't that bolster the other side's argument that there never should have been this

server anyway, and there swronts been an issue as to what's classified and not classified. it would be a government problem rather than a hillary clinton problem. >> i think that's fair. i think that hillary clinton being exposed, the fact that there are hacks that happen, they are still happening right now. was it the best thing to do? she herself has said no. it is the biggest headache that she could ever imagine, but the other issue is other secretary of states have done the same thing. >> that's not exactly true, angela. that's not exactly true. what secretary clinton did has never been done. >> i don't mean the server. i meant private e-mail. >> that's a really big difference. >> that's fair. >> secretary clinton used private e-mail, and condoleezza rice did not use e-mail at all. what she did is unprecedented. and that's why they're looking at this. >> thanks, appreciate it.

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trump's diversity coalition and w kamaul bell. >> do people call you lemon? >> sometimes they call me limon. >> good evening to all of you. today is cinco de mayo. and i want to -- >> gracias. >> this tweet from donald trump. happy cinco de mayo. the best taco bowls are made in trump tower grill. i love hispanics. are you offended by this tweet? >> you know, don, the stuff that he has said from the moment that he burst onto the scene -- >> you see kamaul's face. >> calling them rapists and drug

addicts. i had to laugh, because i was surprised that he didn't have a sombrero on, that he didn't have a long mustache on and a bolero jacket and start singing mariachi songs. so in the bar that donald trump has set for himself, this actually is kind of tame, but i think it symbolizes the fact that he absolutely just does not get latinos in this country, does not care about latinos in this cun thiountrcountry, and wo see the effects of that come november in the election. >> what do you think of this tweet? >> it didn't offend me at all. and there's tons of people out there right now drinking and having margaritas, and they don't know what cinco de mayo is about. he is a great marketing guy, and he was just showing a picture. when he first announced his campaign, i think he just takes very little common sense to know

mr. trump doesn't think that all mexicans are rapists or criminals, but there is a big, big problem, and he acknowledges. two weeks ago i was in trump tower. we were there, and he was there. and he treated us all nice. i had an opportunity to talk to the director of security, 15, 20 minutes. the nicest guy. i don't have, i know quite a few people like him. he's toughed. very disciplined. >> you have been holding it and holding it. what, what? >> come on, man. you can't, you can't have -- he's like sort of reminding hispanic and latino people, i still don't like you. just in case, you remember the thing about rapists and murderers? if your love of latinos is taco-based, you really do not love latinos. >> that's exactly right. and it just underscores the disrespect, the fact that he wants to deport 11 million

undocumented immigrants. the fact that he wants to put up a wall and make mexico pay for it. the fact that joe arpaio endorsed him, the fact that he has all these proposals that scrimmageam anti-immigrant, anti-latino. >> do you think you're reading anything into it? >> no i don't need to read anything into it. >> my colleague, erin burnett spoke to him. >> that's difference between my father and a regular politician. he can be fun. he was eat ago taco bowl. it happens to be cinco de mayo. he takes a picture and puts it on, opposed to all the other politicians that have all these people. he was having a good time. i saw that come across. i was hysterically laughing and i retweeted it right away.

i think sometimes the authenticity has won the day in this election. >> so, to my question, reading too much? is it authentic and fun? or offensive? >> no, i actually agree with eric. this screams authenticity on behalf of donald trump, but that's the problem, right? that he does this, and he thinks it's funny, and like i said before, this isn't as offensive as everything else he has said and done, because he has set the bar so high for himself, that in the scheme of things, yeah. it doesn't really matter. it made me chuckle, but it does underscore everything that he has said and done up until now, that disrespects latinos, that shows them that he does not care about them, that he wants to deport 11 million undocumented immigrants. everything i said up until now, >> that's a lot for one tweet with a bowl of food. i mean, carlos, immediately, it went viral on twitter. i got it in my twitter box, on

instagram, facebook, i got it on text, do you think this is trump being politically incorrect? or is it a bad sense of humor? what's going on? >> he's just having a taco bowl, saying happy cinco de mayo like everyone else. he markets his trump restaurant. i don't find it offensive. i'm from mexico. i was born and raised over there. it doesn't mean much to me, cinco demay qe m mayo. most people don't know what it means. >> if he's not offended as a mexican, why are you offended? >> i'm offended as a human. to take a bigger ho eger look a. first of all, taco bowl is not authentic mexican food. and they don't serve it in that restaurant. >> someone eating chips and salsa or drinking margaritas, drinking coronas.

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all right, now candidates scrambling to appeal to latino voters, and this series of "united shades of america", takes a look at the latinos in the u.s. >> this household has a mix of statuses. the parents brought their two girls across the border, but the two sons were born in america. >> you're about to graduate? >> yes. >> are you excited? >> yeah. >> what are your hopes for going to college? what do you hope happens? >> like helping others is what i really want to do when i get my college degree, because like growing up, like trying to learn english, it was difficult, but then since i was retained in first grade because i didn't know much english. >> they held you back not because you weren't smart, but

because you didn't no english. so she's going to college, how do you feel? >> i feel excited but worried because he decide -- >> you want to go to college with her? you want her to go to college in there. >> a very cute family. back with me, maria cardona and kamau bell. that was a clip of your "united shades of america." you visit two latino neighborhoods and sat down to dinner with this family. what did you learn about latinos in america. what is the difference between this, you know, people sending me this on snapchat, friends saying oh, snapchat is cinco de mayo versus what donald trump did. >> the person who sent that snapchat isn't running for president, unless that's their way of announcing or unless you're friends with donald trump on snapchat.

>> what is this teaching you, the election, the donald trump tweet today and what you did, what -- >> on some level, what donald trump has basically said through all of these appearances is that he doesn't understand latino americans or latinos in general. i don't either, so i went and talked to them and came away with an understanding. i didn't assume because i eight -- ate a taco bowl i could say look, i love you. >> what did you learn? >> a lot of times in the news we talk about the fear and deportation and immigration. and i learned that they live with that fear, but they're not afraid of it. they're living in the truth that we're going to be fine. like we are good people. we're workin' hard. the numbers are on our side, and they live with a lot more joy than i was expecting, and a family on camera even though they probably shouldn't be. >> but they have the same

concerns. >> yeah. they want their daughter to go to college not too far away from home. >> the latinos have become a key issue in the presidential primary. what role do you think they'll play in the general election? >> i think they're going to play an outsized role. in 2012 everybody talked about historic numbers of latinos went to the polls, and yes, we did. and we helped elect president obama twice. but in 2012, don, the latino participation rate was only 49%. i guarantee you, it will be a lot larger this time, and it will be in large part to the offensive nature of donald trump's candidacy. and to kamau bell's segment, and i can't wait to see the whole thing. he looked at a family that is mixed status. the problem is if donald trump

becomes president, they won't be fine. if he goes and deports 11 million undocumented immigrants, that family is going to be split up. and that's what we're going to be dealing with. major families that will be split up. moms and babies ripped from each other's arms. >> what do you see when you support him. >> i know a lot of mexicans who support him. successful people. it's common sense. it's the law. i know it's very complicated, very emotional. i have family and friends who have been in that situation. but it comes to self-accountability. i come to this country illegally? there are consequences. you have to be prepared for it. it's time to go. oh, big companies, big businesses took advantage of your labor. well, you also got paid. but you have to respect the law. remember 16 years ago, i was making a line in the u.s. embassy in mexico, waiting for

my turn with my paperwork, and have to go through the process. why you have opportunity others don't have? it's the law, it's the law. it's a no-brainer. it's getting out of control. >> carlos, i want to ask you, today reince priebus gave his annual cinco de mayo speech, it no longer gave a line welcoming immigrants to the country. how much significance would you attach to this? >> to the cinco de mayo? >> yeah, that there was no longer a line welcoming immigrants. >> i don't think i understood the question. >> reince priebus gave his annual cinco de mayo speech to the rnc, but it no longer had a line welcoming mexicans into the country. do you find that significant? >> no. i don't think mr.

-- loves me more because he posted a picture. all this racism he's accused of, he's a very intelligent man, a very successful man. somebody like him cannot have that point of view, you know, discriminating, races. i don't feel like that. >> take his word for it. take his word for it. and that's all we need to do. >> appreciate it. you can catch "americ-- . .

that's it for us. i'll see you right back here at 10:00. "early start" with christine romans and miguel marquez begins now. >> the gop resisting donald trump. the highest ranking republican refusing to get behind the presumptive nominee. paul ryan telling cnn trump has work to do. and the fbi interviewing everyone in hillary clinton's staff about her e-mail use. i'm miguel marquez. welcome to "early start." >> nice to see you. >> great to be here. >> i'm christine romans. it is 4:00 a.m. in the east. the chairman of the republican party says a meeting is now