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hello, everyone, and welcome to our viewers here in the united states and all around the world. i'm rosemary church. >> and i'm errol barnett. this is cnn's special coverage of the u.s. presidential election primaries. it's great to have you with us. >> well, donald trump and bernie sanders have notched more primary wins in the race for the u.s. presidency. >> the victories in west virginia and nebraska bring trump closer than ever to clinching the republican nomination. but for sanders, you could say the win in west virginia is cold comfort. >> pretty much. sanders won decisively over hillary clinton in the mountain state, but democrats award their
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delegates proportionally so sanders adds to his total, but clinton will also pick up delegates. despite the win, it's still all but impossible for staanders to win his party's nomination outright. >> still sanders is pressing forward optimistically. >> early sanders laid out his strategy while also taking strong shots at donald trump. take a listen. >> let me be as clear as i can be. we are in this campaign to win the democratic nomination. [ cheers and applause ] >> and we are going to fight for every last vote in oregon, kentucky, california, the dakotas.
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now, we fully acknowledge -- we are good at arithmetic -- that we have an uphill climb ahead of us. but we are used to fighting uphill climbs. we have been fighting uphill from the first day of this campaign when people considered us a fringe candidacy. and our message to the democratic delegates who will be assembling in philadelphia is while we may have many disagreements with secretary clinton, there is one area we agree. and that is we must defeat
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donald trump. trump is not going to become president for a number of reasons. and the major reason is that the american people understand that we cannot have a president who has insulted latinos and mexi n mexicans, who has insulted musl muslims, who every day is insulting women in one way or anoth
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another, who has insulted veterans like john mccain and others, who has insulted african-americans in a very profound way. people sometimes forget that before mr. trump was running for president, he was one of the leaders of the so-called birther movement. and that movement was a very ugly effort to delegitimize the presidency of the first african-american president in our history. >> the audience there not knowing to cheer or boo for some of that. let's break down what took place on the republican side.
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donald trump wins the west virginia primary, running without opposition. trump comes out top in nebraska as well. he adds to his virtually insurmountable delegate lead as the only republican left in the race. trump needs 1,237 delegates to clinch his party's nomination outright and at the moment he has 1,119. >> joining us now from washington is cnn politics reporter tal kopan. great to talk with you. >> hi. >> so not surprisingly, donald trump enjoying victories in west virginia and nebraska. bernie sanders had a convincing win over hillary clinton in west virginia. so what lies ahead, and when might sanders reassess where the race stands and what role he needs to play in it going forward? >> i don't think you'll see bernie sanders reassess his candidacy until after the last primary is said and done in june, going into the convention in july. he has given every indication that he still intends to
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continue this all the way to the convention, in fact telling his supporters that he believes he can go ahead and win this nomination outright. of course at this point that's impossible with pledges delegates alone. they're aren't enough left in remaining contests for him to do that, but he could convince theoretically some super delegates to change their minds and support him. so he is going to stay in this all the way and, you know, there really isn't an argument against him doing that because hillary clinton herself, back in 2008, stayed in the race pretty much all the way. so you're not going to see calls directly from her camp for him to pull out, and there's really no need for him to as long as he can make that pitch to his supporters. >> tal, on the other side, you know, tuesday's wins will essentially push establishment republicans to back donald trump leading up to the convention. but there is still reluctance among them. and, hey, they're politicians. they're worried about their own re-election chances if they back trump. so does he need to start winning over the establishment to get the gop money-making machine
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behind him for the general election because part of his appeal, of course, is that he is not an insider. he's an outsider. >> well, there are a couple schools of thought on this. first, you know, to a certain extent of course he has to win over the establishment machine. and there's, you know, a relative amount of supporters sort of jumping on his bandwagon at this point, reading the writing on the wall, seeing his support among the republican electorate, and going ahead and getting on board. of course there have also been gop insiders that have pointed out that it's really easy for trump to fix his donor problem. all he has to do is bring the republican party new donors. and if he can bring in people who may not be bush donors, they may not be romney donors, but they're trump supporters and those people also give money to republican candidates running for senate and the house, the party is probably going to rally around him that much quicker. so there is a pathway for donald trump to build his support among the republican party, but it was really interesting tonight. he was not a unanimous victor
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even though there are no other active candidates in the race. he still onliy pulled off -- lat time i checked he was losing one in four voters in west virginia and losing almost four in ten in nebraska. and of course there are early votes that could account for some of that. but it's clear the party isn't quite ready to adopt him unanimously just yet. >> interesting stuff, tal kopan, thanks for joining us from washington. we appreciate it. >> thanks. let's bring in dave jacobson now, a democratic strategist, and and john thomas, a republican consultant. >> welcome to you both. thank you for staying up late for us, joining us in the west coast in our l.a. bureau. john, i want to start with you on that last point tal was making about the republicans still being fractured at this point. we could expect tuesday's results but if we look at the exit polling in nebraska, for example, really looking into how
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republicans felt as they headed to the polls. we see that essentially 38%, if we add together the republicans who are concerned and scared, 38% of them feel that way if trump will be elected as president. what does that say about the state of the electorate right now among republicans and his shot at winning in november? >> well, there was one key statistic that that exit poll didn't ask, and that's the terrified question. if hillary clinton is elected, are you terrified? and i think 100% of republican -- of the electorate would agree that hillary clinton would be a terrifying president. she is the uniter that will bring the party together, but the fact is tonight was a big night for donald trump. and more important -- so i think the party is going to coalesce, and the -- >> john, you weren't answering the question there. these are people who said even if donald trump is elected president -- these are republicans -- they're concerned. what does that mean? >> you know, they're concerned about a lot of things.
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they're concerned about the state of world affairs, the economy. i think donald trump, as we move through this process, is going to win those voters over. we're already starting to see a little bit more moderate donald trump in the process, especially on some of his positions. i think they're going to come along. i really do. but donald trump does -- you're right. donald trump has some ground to make up. but it's a long road to november, and i think he can get it done. >> so, dave, what do you make of those numbers? >> look, i think it's emblematic of the identity crisis that has continued to sort of persist in the republican party, right? you see the rift between the gop elite with the paul ryans and the mitt romneys and the bushes of the world and the voters who have propelled donald trump to become the presumptive nominee. i think this is emblematic of sort of the broader narrative that we're seeing with this sort of fractured republican party. i think the reality is donald trump is not going to be a formidable general election candidate until he can sort of consolidate the republican base. and one of the ways that he sort of does that is he deals with this challenge head on. >> so, gentlemen, let's listen
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for a moment to some of what bernie sanders had to stay after his big win in west virginia and then, of course, we'll get your reaction. let's listen. >> mr. trump will not become president because the american people understand that our strength is in our diversity, that we are a great nation because we are black and white and latino and asian-american and native-american. >> all right. dave, to you first. is this a sign perhaps of a change of tone in sanders' message from attacking clinton to focusing more on trump, and could it signal the role he may play once clinton is inevitably nominated given he knows by now that he has no mathematical chance of winning? >> right. rosemary, i think he's testing out the waters for v.p. or some cabinet position or at least some surrogate at a certain
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level for the general election. he wants to be part of the campaign because his chief objective is to make sure that donald trump does not become the next president, right? i think you're going to see the shift increasingly as we get closer and closer to the conventions. look, the reality is if he doesn't want trump to be president, he's got two choices. one, he can continue to attack hillary clinton and that's going to increase the likelihood that donald trump becomes the next president. or he can pivot and start attacking donald trump and help propel whoever the next democrat is to the white house after the november election. >> john, of course let's bring you in on this because we're seeing here possibly eventually bernie sanders will be a uniting force on the democratic side. where does that leave the republicans? >> well, i don't think he'll necessarily be a uniting force. i think the fact is 25% of bernie sanders' supporters say that they will never support hillary clinton as their nominee. the fact that a socialist beat hillary clinton on issues of the economy tonight, about issues of coal, i mean it's shocking.
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i think we need to remember this, that the top issue going into this election is going to be the economy, and we saw tonight that hillary clinton's achilles' heel was exposed. that's although donald trump certainly has negatives and almost every other issue hillary beats donald trump, donald trump's created jobs. hillary's never created a single job. >> what's interesting, john, is you're echoing the sentiment from reince priebus tonight, the chairman of the republican national committee. he sent out a tweet almost donald trump-style a couple hours ago. we'll bring it up for ou viewers. quote, it is nothing short of embarrassing that hillary clinton has now been defeated 20 times by a 74-year-old socialist from vermont. dave, what do you make of that remark? he's noting sanders' age. he's calling him a socialist and pointing to one of clinton's weaknesses. >> look, this presidential campaign is anything but conventional. i say there's an identity crisis
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on the republican side. we have our own identity crisis. you have this rift that's -- inspiring young people, working class voters, even independents into his column. simultaneous to that, you've got the traditional sort of obama coalition of voters which is women, african-americans, latinos, asians, minority voters. i think the r5e89 is our campaign and our party has. seen the sort of character attacks that we've seen in the republican party. i think it's going to be a lot easier for us to consolidate and bring the party together and so sort of unify at our convention as opposed to the republican party where you've seen this unprecedented rift where you've got the highest ranking republican elected leader in the country not yet ready to come behind the presumptive nominee, where you've got the mitt romneys or the george bushes, even marco rubio earlier tonight on cnn indicated he's willing to support the nominee after it takes place, but he's not willing to come out front and endorse donald trump today.
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>> and, john, just because we talk about unity here, you two have spent so much time together on our air talking about these issues. have you two become closer at all? >> we're besties. we are bffs, yeah. actually, we're more frenemies, i think, would be the right -- >> we'll settle for that at this stage. >> dave jacobson and john thomas, always a pleasure to chat with you. thanks so much. >> likewise. thank you. >> now, the candidate who gets the most votes doesn't necessarily become president of the united states. still to come, we'll explain the electoral college and what the nominees will be facing in november. >> while we may have many disagreements with secretary clinton, there is one area we agree, and that is we must defeat donald trump.
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the reason that our campaign is the strongest campaign against trump is not just the polls. it is that our campaign is generating the energy and the enthusiasm that we need to have
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a large voter turnout in november. >> democrat bernie sanders speaking to supporters in salem, oregon, after his win over hillary clinton in west virginia's primary. >> but since the state awards delegates proportionally, clinton maintains her big lead in that category. >> sanders beats clinton in west virginia 51% to 36%. he was widely expected to win after clinton said back in march that her plans for clean energy would put a lot of coal miners out of business. >> and the only republican left standing, donald trump, scored two wins. of course he should since he's the only republican left standing. you see ted cruz, john kasich there in the single digits. meantime in nebraska, trump wins with 61% of the vote there. at least cruz and kasich made it to double digits in those states. >> now, worthi pointing out tha
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in the u.s. presidential race, it's not who wins the most votes among american citizens. the nominees have to reach a magic number of votes among so-called e lectors, members of the country's electoral college. >> now when regular americans cast their ballots in november, they're essentially telling the electoral college who it should choose state by state. cnn's chief correspondent shows wolf blitzer how it can play out. >> you just heard bernie sanders making the case na in the polls right now, he's even more competitive in the polls than -- he's right about that. first you start by looking at this map and donald trump for that matter. this is obama versus romney, the re-election campaign in 2012. well, i want to focus on this instead. this is our cnn 2016 battleground map, and you see the yellow states. those are states that we have by consensus here are toss-up states. if you see a light blue state like michigan, that means they lean blue. pennsylvania is in that
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category. georgia, we're leaning at red. arizona, same thing. if you're a democrat, michigan or pennsylvania, you're saying, you're crazy. those are solid blue states. but just given trump's appeal, given the demographics and given the possibility of latino vote here, higher african-american vote here, this is the way we start the map. so if you're inside the trump campaign, the clinton campaign, or for that matter the sanders campaign if he can pull off the miracle, one thing democrats say is we don't think so. this one probably going to go to them. that's what they think because of the latino vote, trump's issues, they think they get that one. also in the democrat campaign, they say wisconsin we're going to get back. if on our battleground map democrats could hold nevada and hold wisconsin, then if you're secretary clinton or bernie sanders, florida would get you over the top. that's why this map is so competitive, so hard. the hill is steeper, if you will, given the last two elections for republicans. if donald trump could hold florida, that makes it a more interesting map. but then donald trump has to go in, well, let's start over this
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way. donald trump would have to win ohio. he would have to win north carolina, which romney carried in 2012 after obama carried in 2008. so where are we mao? i didn't do that on purpose. we're at a tie, 253 to 253. this is how a competitive election could play out. so where does the state of virginia go? one of the classic swing states in american politics has been trending blue in recent years. if the democrats can hold that, now you're up to 266. pick one and you get to the finish line. so can donald trump hold iowa? george w. bush had some success. barack obama won it twice. if trump could somehow take iowa, then there you are, 266-259. and we come down to two smaller states. now, democrats will tell you they believe colorado is coming their way. traditionally been a battleground state. the denver suburbs, the latino vote could be key. this could come down here or could come down here. what if donald trump could win new hampshire? then you're at 266-263. this is a hypothetical situation, but here colorado in
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this circumstance decides the presidency. this is one hypothetical. you could do thousands of these as you play them out. but if you're inside the campaigns right now, if you're the trump campaign, you're starting by looking here. you know you need to do better business up here in the rust belt. if donald trump can change, for example, the state of michigan, if he can make that red, it helps his odds. if he can make pennsylvania red, it helps his odds. there are a lot of places here secretary clinton thinks she can play as well. bernie sanders noting he thinks he's stronger now. some democrats are dubious it would play out that way. inside the campaigns now in may, especially in the trump campaign because he has it locked up, this is what he is studying. what are my demographics? what have i learned in the primary that i want to test in a general election atmosphere? clinton was campaigning in virginia the other day. that was a long time ago. they think she's going to be the nominee. they're starting to move around this map as well, not only state by state, but sometimes where you are in a state. >> from hillary clinton's standpoint, since the democrats won the presidency the last two
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times, does she play defense or go on offense? >> well, she's essentially -- it depends on how you want to look at it. she can go on offense, call donald trump a bully, call donald trump demeaning to women but that's on offense because you're defending the pennsylvania suburbs, the cleveland suburbs. you're trying to compete in north carolina. you're trying to keep virginia by winning suburban women just outside of washington, d.c. so she's on offense on issues. she's on defense when it comes to protecting this map. that's how the clinton campaign looks at it. if you start with the fact that president obama won 332 electoral votes last time after winning a higher number in 2008, if you're the democrats, you think you don't even have to protect at all. but you start looking at this map and you think protect 270. try to protect 300. that's why the democrats start in the old days, if you call it, they were on the high ground, and donald trump has a -- it's a steep climb because he has to change some states that have gone blue for a long time, starting with ohio, which is a traditional swing state. but he has to change some states
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that have voted blue for a long time, since the late 1980s to get there. impossible? no. a steep climb? absolutely. >> john king there with our wolf blitzer. and we'll take a quick break here. still to come, she's not in the presidential race, but she's ready to take on donald trump. ahead on our special election coverage, an intense online battle between donald trump and elizabeth warren. back in a moment. hey there, hi. why do people have eyebrows? why do people put milk on cereal? oh, are you reading why people put milk on cereal? why does your tummy go "grumbily, grumbily, grumbily"? why is it all (mimics a stomach grumble) no more questions for you! ooph, that milk in your cereal was messing with you, wasn't it? yeah, happens to more people than you think... try lactaid, it's real milk, without that annoying lactose. good, right? mmm, yeah. i got your back. lactaid. it's the milk that doesn't mess with you.
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a warm welcome back to our special coverage of the primaries in west virginia and nebraska. i'm rosemary church. >> and i'm errol barnett. democrat bernie sanders is savoring a decisive win in the
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west virginia primary. he beat hillary clinton 51% to 36%. but the victory does very little to help sanders since both candidates add to their delegate totals. you see it there. clinton is about 150 delegates shy of clinching her party's nomination. >> and on the republican side, donald trump wins the west virginia primary, running without opposition. trump comes out on top in nebraska as well of course, and he adds to his virtually insurmountable delegate lead as the only republican left in the race. trump needs 1,237 delegates to clinch his party's nomination outright. >> now,ver on na key la, our political correspondent was in oregon for bernie sanders's victory speech. take a look. >> reporter: bernie sanders on the evening of the west virginia primary, talking to a crowd here in oregon as he savored this victory. really sounding like a candidate who is pushing forward in his primary battle.
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he took on hillary clinton on several issues, trade, on the environment, on campaign finance. but he also garnered a lot of enthusiasm from his supporters when he took on donald trump, criticizing him sharply for his comments about latinos and muslims. it goes to show you that as bernie sanders faces nearly insurmountable math in getting to the democratic nomination, this will be the area, if he does get out of the race ultimately, where he will seek unity with hillary clinton and her supporters. brianna keilar, cnn, salem, oregon. >> and hillary clinton is already looking ahead to the next big race after tuesday's loss. >> senior washington correspondent jeff zeleny is following the clinton campaign in kentucky. >> reporter: hillary clinton losing the west virginia primary to bernie sanders. it's a state she won eight years ago to barack obama by some 40 percentage points. of course so much has changed since then. she's effectively running to be president obama's extension, his third term.
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that was not viewed very favorably there by west virginia voters, but she still has that big lead in pledged delegates and even bigger lead in super delegates. she is trying to look forward to the general election race with donald trump. bernie sanders has a month more of contests. he's remaining in the race. she still must compete with him because she has to keep winning delegates. but this race has shifted. you can feel it shift. it did not change tonight. she still leads big in delegates, even with bernie sanders' win in west virginia. jeff zeleny, cnn, louisville, kentucky. >> joining us here in the studio to discuss the election results is ashley bell, a 2016 republican delegate. >> also angela rye joins us from washington. she is a cnn political commentator and a former executive director with the congressional black caucus. thank you, both of you, for joining us. we do want to start with the democrats. and angela rye, bernie sanders won the west virginia democratic primary convincingly, but he doesn't have the math behind him
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to win the party nomination. so all he seems to be achieving here is dividing the democratic vote and handing victory to donald trump. how concerned is the democratic party machine about what his race to the convention will actually do to the clinton campaign? >> i think a couple of things. one is i don't think that bernie sanders staying in the democratic primary is dividing democrats and conquering for the purposes of donald trump's win ultimately in the general is what i feel like i heard you saying. i don't think that's at all what's happening. i think what bernie sanders is doing is staying in the race to ensure that people who support him have the option to do so through that california primary contest. unfortunately for bernie sanders, this particular contest looked a lot like many of the other contests that he's won, meaning west virginia is not the most diverse state. it's not reflective of the overall american demographic, and i think that presents a long-term challenge for him. as we know, the math, as you
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said, is not on his side. >> ashley, do republicans enjoy the fact that bernie sanders is still in this because donald trump's new nickname for hillary clinton is crooked hillary, and bernie sanders is putting that pressure on her to be more transparent, expose the links to wall street. is this something that you're relea relea. >> no one thought we'd be watching the democrats still fight it out. i don't think bernie sanders is in it just because he wants his voters to show up to the polls and be counted. i think he's about to call the question for the soul of the democratic party. he wants those delegates to go to philadelphia, and he wants that platform to reflect his views of where he thinks the party should go. and i think he can do that with enough delegates. >> now, angela, in the key swing states of florida, pennsylvania, and ohio, donald trump is showing to be neck and neck with hillary clinton, and bernie sanders actually performs better in a head-to-head. how do you explain that at this stage of the race? >> in a couple of ways.
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one is donald trump, throughout this primary season, i've called him the new teflon don. the reason why is because no attack has stuck to donald trump. the reality of it is he has yet to be vetted the ways in which hillary clinton has been vetted over the last two decades. frankly she's been vetted for this office twice. she's been vetted as a sen torial candidate, and she was vetted as first lady whether she wanted to be or not. >> the trump campaign put forward a white nationalist in california. the person resigned, had some comments to say about why that happened. ashley, to you, what does that say about the racial undertones of donald trump's campaign, that he has such support from these types of people? >> you know, the trump campaign has done a good job of reflecting what donald trump wants it to reflect. he's been a hundred percent in control of that. do i believe he has challenges when it comes to broadening our party and making our party as diverse i would like it to be?
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yes, he has challenges. i would hope that he would put people around him that can advise him and help him understand that -- i look at the tweet at cinco de mayo, i think you got to go a little further than that when it comes to recruiting blacks and hispanics to the party. and that sort of thing makes a good sound bite and it does cause some nervousness. >> but this goes beyond challenges. he's been called racist. he's been called bigoted and xenophobic. some say those are the policies that are really energizing his campaign. >> i don't buy that. what i don't buy is the people who support donald trump, many of them are good people. they're conservatives who are tired of government the way it is. they don't like the republican party because they're conservatives and the party has not done what they said they were going to do. so they rebuke everything that's establishment. these are good american people who support a man who they believe can get this party in the right direction. >> you just brought up this point about donald trump. he's been called racist. he's been called a bigot. he has represented points and has pushed out statements that represent every single one of
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those buckets. so much so that even the new mayor-elect in london has criticized donald trump for some of his remarks. this is the pope, you know. i mean this is someone who has clearly been on the record saying one thing. i know he turns around and says something different. he can't publicly condemn david duke. this is a real problem, and these are the types of things, the types of issues, the kind of rhetoric that is dangerous and treacherous for what this country needs to be pushing forward and toward. >> and is donald trump the type of republican you really want? i mean we have divisions with the house speaker. we have divisions among the establishment. it's what the voters like, but is that the candidate you really want? >> i'm a conservative. at the end of the day, i want my nominee to be a conservative, which is why i supported marco rubio, why i supported rand paul and other candidates. i want donald trump to be a conservative, and i don't know what it's going to take for that to happen. but i hope in cleveland when we bring our party platform together and he meets with our leaders, that he can convince them and they can work together to say you know what, this party is about limited government.
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it's about supporting life. it's about supporting all the things this party stands for, but we haven't gotten there yet. >> this guy will say whatever it takes to win, and if you're comfortable with that, if you're comfortable with that guy being commander-in-chief and having access to security clearance documents and everything else, go for it. but i will work to the blood, sweat, and tears -- >> and i honestly believe that bernie sanders is still doing well because half of the democratic party believes that hillary clinton will say anything to win. that's why he's still at 50% and that's why he definitely won west virginia. >> those numbers are off. >> there are six more months to go until election day. that's an eternity in politics. we appreciate you both for joining us. thanks so much for your time, guys. >> thank you. >> thank you. and as angela mentioned, donald trump is receiving international criticism from london's newly elected mayor. coming up next, hear why sadiq kahn calls trump's stance on
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the right wing never gives up attacking me. have you noticed that? honest to goodness, i think they're really going to throw everything including the kitchen sink this time. i have a little message for them. they've done it for 25 years, and i'm still standing. >> okay. so there's no argument donald trump whips up strong feelings. among them, democratic u.s. senator elizabeth warren. >> that's right. she says she wants to help her party defeat trump. randy kay has more on the war of words she's been having with him via twitter. >> reporter: democrat elizabeth warren taking on donald trump in 140 characters or less. the massachusetts senator using words like "lame, weak, and bully" to describe the republican candidate. the twitter spat dates back to may 3rd after trump won the
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indiana primary and became the presumptive nominee. warren promising to fight her heart out to make sure donald trump's toxic stew of hatred and insecurity never reaches the white house. trump couldn't let that slide. blasting warren on twitter three days later, writing, i hope construct hillary clinton chooses goofy elizabeth warren as her running mate. i will defeat them both. one minute later he slammed warren again, this time bringing up her heritage, a controversy going back to her 2012 senate campaign. trump tweeting, let's properly check goofy elizabeth warren's records to see if she is native-american. i say she's a fraud. warren has long defended her native-american heritage, even after her republican opponent, scott brown, accused her of making it up to get ahead in her career. seconds later, this. goofy elizabeth warren, hillary clinton's flunky, has a career that is totally based on a lie. she is not native-american. a while later, this.
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goofy elizabeth warren and her phony native-american heritage are on a twitter rant. she is too easy. i'm driving her nuts. but was he really driving her nuts? warren certainly did not back down. in fact, she took to twitter again, unleashing a firestorm, accusing trump of lying his way through the primaries without being held accountable and putting him on notice those days are over. first, she called his tweets lame. then this in response to him calling her goofy elizabeth warren. goofy at real donald trump? for a guy with the best words, that's a pretty lame nickname. weak. within 13 minutes, warren fired off 11 tweets aimed at trump, calling him a bully who has a single play in his playbook, offensive lies thrown at anyone who calls him out. another saying he spews insults and lies because he can't have an honest conversation about his dangerous vision for america. warren continued. you can beat a bully not by tucking tail and running but by
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holding your ground. if you think recycling scott brown's hate-filled attacks on my family is going to shut me up, @realdonald trump, think again buddy. weak. her rant ended with this doozy. whatever @real donald trump says, we won't shut up. we won't back down. this election is too important, and he won't step foot in white house. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> well, no matter the criticism, trump shows no signs of backing down. >> an interview with abc news, he recently defended his proposal for a temporary ban on muslims entering the u.s. >> i've heard that whole thing. oh, if you do the ban. well, the ban is a temporary ban until we find out what's going on. we can't be the stupid people anymore. in fact, right here in nebraska, they're bringing in tremendous numbers of people. >> let me put you back in the oval office, though. >> we don't know who these people are. we don't know where they're
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coming from. >> now, the new mayor of london is criticizing donald trump for his stance on islam, calling it ignorant. >> he's also warning it could make the u.s. and the u.k. less safe. cnn's phil black has more. >> reporter: not long after his electoral victory here at london city hall, this city's new mayor, sadiq kahn, says he's interested in visiting the united states to meet with mayors of major cities there to discuss ideas, policies for tackling some of the problems that they share. but he said he might have to do it before january in the event that donald trump does win the presidential in the u.s. and enforces his policy of banning muslims from entering the country. donald trump said he welcomes sadiq kahn's election to the position of mayor of london and said sadiq kahn could be the exception to that intended policy. but sadiq kahn isn't interested in being donald trump's exception. he says the problem is not 9 fact that the mayor of london
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can't enter the united states, but the fact that muslims anywhere would be unable to travel there. the problem, he says, is the policy, and he wants donald trump to rethink it. >> i think donald trump has ignorant views about islam. it's not just about me. donald trump has said i'm the exception to his rule. that if you're a muslim from any part of the world, you can't go to the usa. my point is this. there are many muslims who want to go to america to go to disnyland or who want to do business in america or people who want to be students in america. we showed last thursday here in london that it's possible to be mainstream muslim and to be western. it is com patible with western way of life. my point to donald trump is, don't make an exception for me fnlts. >> sadiq kahn doesn't just believe that donald trump's views on islam are ig norntd. he believes there's dangerous as well. he says mr. trump is making both the united states and the united kingdom less safe because he's alienating mainstream muslims
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and that plays into the hands of extremists. mr. trump's muslim ban is pretty unpopular in the united kingdom. it had previously been described by british prime minister david cameron as divisive, stupid, and wrong, comments he continues to stand byme. phil black, cnn london. >> be sure to watch christiane amanpour with london's new mayor, sadiq kahn. it will be featured on her program on cnn international at 7:00 p.m. for those of you watching in london. he is out of the presidential race, but marco rubio is still talking about it. what the former republican candidate now says about supporting donald trump. back with that and more in just a moment. stay with us. wanna drink more water?
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former republican candidate senator marco rubio sat down with our jake tapper for his first national interview since he dropped out of the presidential race. >> rubio says he has no interest in being donald trump's vice president, but he is prepared to support the party's nominee. >> reporter: you have raised
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concerns throughout the campaign, onces that you're standing by, about his temperament and about his views on foreign policy, on trade policy, and other things. would those reservations keep you -- do they right now preclude you from endorsing him? >> well, i signed a pledge that said i'd support the republican nominee, and i intend to continue to do that. look, here's the situation that we're in. on the one hand, i don't want hillary clinton to be the president of the united states. i don't want her to win this election. on the other hand, as i said, i have well-defined differences with the current -- the presumptive nominee of the republican party. and like millions of republicans, you try to reconcile those two things. i intend to live up to the pledge that we made, but that said, these concerns that i have about policy, they remain and they're there. but, you know, that doesn't mean that donald needs to change his positions in order to get my support or what have you. as i said earlier today, i think he should be true to what he believes in and continue to campaign on those things and make his case to the american people. >> but it's not just concerns
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that you've had. you once said that you didn't think that -- that you had concerns about the fact -- about the nuclear codes being in the hands of an erratic con man. that was what you said. >> here's what i'm not going to do over the next six months is sit there and be taking shots at him. he obviously wasn't my first choice. he has won the nomination. he deserves the opportunity to go out and make his case to the american people and that's what he's going to do. i don't view my role over the next six months to sit here and level charges against him. i know what i said during the campaign. i enunciated those things repeatedly and the voters chose a different direction. i stand by the things that i said. but i'm not going to sit here now and become his chief critic over the next six months because he deserves the opportunity to go forward and make his argument. >> do you understand why millions of people who voted for you and who still see you as the future of the republican party wonder, well, if you're standing by, saying that you have concern about putting the nuclear codes in the hands of an erratic con
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man, how do you reconcile that with -- >> well, we ultimately live in a republic. in a republic, these voters went out and voted. and through the process, he became our nominee. that's a fact. he is now the presumptive nominee. that said, it doesn't change what i've said in the pastment i stand by those things. but now he is the presumptive nominee. i don't want hillary clinton to win, and i just don't view now the most productive role for me is to be sitting here and someone taking shots at him. >> do you want either one of them to win? >> well, i don't want hillary clinton to win, and as i said, i want to be supportive of the republican nominee. i signed a pledge that i would do so. i think one of the best ways i can be supportive is to go out there and work on behalf of those who for example are running to hold the republican majority in the united states senate or candidates across the country that share my views on national security on some of these other issues. that's where i intend to focus my time. >> all right. just very quickly to another story we're watching very closely. brazilian president dilma rousseff says she is going to
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fight impeachment with all her strength. >> speaking at a women's conference tuesday, the embattled leader said she intends to stay in office through her elected term. a senate vote is scheduled for wednesday on whether to begin an impeachment trial against her. >> translator: look, for me it is a very important moment. it's a decisive moment. it's a decisive moment for brazil's democracy, a moment we're going through today. without a doubt, we are going through a time when people feel that we're making history. the history of this country. >> and if the senate vote passes, rousseff will have to step down for up to six months. thanks for your company. i'm rosemary church. >> and i'm errol barnett. remember to connect with us anytime on twitter. it is great to hear from you all. we love it. "early start" is next for those of you in the states. >> for everyone else, stay tuned for another edition of "cnn newsroom" with our max foster in london. have a great day. see you.
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breaking overnight, big wins for donald trump and bernie sanders. trump the presumptive republican nominee planning his general election strategy as sanders claims his wins show he can beat hillary clinton to the democratic nomination. good morning, everybody. welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm john berman. this morning, donald trump and bernie sanders are waking up with big west virginia wins. donald trump is the only republican still running for president. he easily won west virginia. he also t

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