friday, finally, and ac 360 with anderson cooper begins now. good evening, thanks for joining us. breaking news, late reaction from the trump campaign, deeply hateful remarks that his former butler is making, dangerous enough to get the secret service involved. that's ahead. we begin with mr. trump going to washington, the presumptive nominee meeting with gop leaders, some of whom see him less as the pick of the party, more like a skunk at the picnic. it is a summit unlike any others, not former rivals, this is the man who has gotten more votes than any other republican contender, sitting down with people who in any other election cycle would be solidly behind him. again, it is not your ordinary election. what happened at the capital was no ordinary summit. two reports. chief congressional

correspondent dana bash. >> reporter: gathering to greet the nominee for president, donald trump, and they all could not sound more eager to get beyond the discord. >> the headline is positive first step toward unifying the party. >> i do believe that we are now planting the seeds to get ourselves unified. >> in fact, trump and house speaker paul ryan even issued a carefully crafted joint stateme statement. there's a great opportunity to unify the party and win this fall. also said while we were honest about our few differences, we recognize there are also many important areas of common ground. the differences ran deep during the primaries. cnn is told that today behind closed doors ryan made clear to the billionaire it would be up to trump to unite the gop. a source familiar with the meeting says ryan told trump that while millions voted for

him, many republicans oppose him, too. >> i represent a wing of the conservative party you could say. he is bringing a new wing to it. bringing new voters we never had for decades. that's a positive thing. >> still, ryan was not yet ready to endorse trump. >> this is the first very encouraging meeting, but again, in 45 minutes you don't litigate all of the process and all of the issues and principles that we are talking about. >> a source familiar with the meeting said ryan brought up something near and dear to his heart, balancing the budget by reforming medicare and social security, which trump argued he doesn't want to touch. and sources tell cnn that during the meeting trump mostly listened and said all of the right things. the most anticipated meeting was the first, just these three men, trump, ryan and republican party chair reince priebus. cnn is told priebus has been working hard behind the scenes for over a week to bridge the divide between the two. >> it's important to be unified,

also important to remember -- >> but it is not usually this hard. >> you know what, this was not a usual election. i mean, it was a very contentious, tough primary, and obviously no one can deny that. it is something a lot of us haven't been through. >> do you feel like a couple's therapist? >> no, you know what, you wouldn't say that if you were in the room, it was very -- it was great. i think it had very good chemistry between the two of them. >> what were you hearing from sources? >> chemistry starts like a beautiful bromance. i wouldn't go that far. but i am told they seemed to warm to each other personally. they didn't know each other at all. in terms of the issues which is what matters here, i am told that ryan spent a significant amount of time briefing trump on his own election year agenda that he is pushing in the house to help republicans. all of them are on the ballot in

november. and i mentioned in a piece that ryan pressed trump on budget related issues important to him like medicare and social security. i am told ryan also pushed trump on the question of what kind of supreme court justice he would pick. the house doesn't have a formal role in the process. nominating a conservative to fill antonin scalia's chair is one of the top things for conservatives, those that are skeptical that trump is one of them. >> thanks for the reporting. when trump left ryan, he went over to woo senate republicans. surprising words from lindsey graham who has been on a scourged earth campaign against trump for months. this meeting between the leaders, what can you tell us? >> it is described by all involved as a productive meeting. one senator briefed on the meeting told me that, quote, people actually liked him. one reason is senators like to talk and so does trump. they talked about taxes and the

tone of the campaign, immigration. john cornyn talked about how republicans can win the hispanic vote being strong on immigration reform. but end of the day the gop is happy with the meeting because they believe trump will adhere, anderson, to basic republican principles. >> before i ask the next question, i want to remind people that senator lindsey graham said supporting trump would be like being shot. with that on the table, did graham say nice things today? >> they had about a 15 minute phone call. graham said he was impressed on foreign policy, but made it clear he plans to oppose donald trump this fall. another trump critic, rand paul, told me he is optimistic the party will unite. after that meeting, senate republican leaders briefed their colleagues at lunch. one was ted cruz. and ted cruz was there and made a joke and said, quote, to be honest with you, i didn't want to come back.

john mccain later responded, we didn't want you to come back either. everyone laughed. it was interesting to see the republican party in a pretty good mood after this trump meeting. >> thanks. thoughts from adam kinzinger, former co-chair for the jeb bush campaign. congressman, the outcome of today's meeting between trump and speaker ryan, what do you make of it. it was a different, rosier tone than we heard from both men today. >> yeah. you know, look, obviously speaker of the house is a very principled person, he has real concerns with some of what trump said on domestic policy, foreign policy and his tone. but ultimately he is speaker of the house, leader of the republican party. i expect that ultimately he will support trump. he is going through the process to get there. look, a lot of us have major concerns with what's going on, we want to support the republican nominee as republicans, but this really is on donald trump to unite the party and this is where he has

to change his tone. >> why is it on donald trump? donald trump is essentially the standard bearer for the republican party. he won the most votes, defeated a deep pool of republicans. isn't it time for those who are against him in the republican party to reach out to him? >> i think once you become the standard bearer, once you become the nominee, the burden to win is on you. you have to go out, figure out how to put together 51% of americans to put you in office. that starts with your own party. that starts with understanding where people have concerns, with you listening to that. when somebody says some of the words i've heard you use to describe people is frankly hurtful and divisive, think about that. when you hear somebody say your foreign policy is not really coherent, you admire vladimir putin, these are concerns. that's on donald trump. >> you said you put your country above your party in regards to backing donald trump. do you believe republicans who are critics of trump have warmed

to the idea of his candidacy and are accepting it are putting their party above their country? >> i don't think so. everybody has a decision to make. a lot of these folks that were critics and are on his side are saying his supreme court justices will probably be better from hillary clinton's from their perspective, and look, i don't like hillary and donald trump is a better option. i think in their mind they are putting their country above their party, but we all have to make that decision in a different way. for me, again, on somebody that cares about america's role, and mission in the world, to hear some of the things he's said and the way he's said it brings real concern. >> how does it, i don't know if he is concerned about winning you over, how does he win you over? seems like those are pretty fundamental things that he has dug in on and repeatedly has the tone that he has, he says look, he can be more presidential, so far he's running the race he's running, short of some major

conversion on the part of donald trump, how does he win you over? >> hard to tell until he gets there. i don't know if there's a specific formula. i can at the present ykacan tel running like a man for the job that lincoln had, that's a good first step. if he is interested on learning foreign policy and difficulties and challenges outside broad, populous statements, that will be a move, too. i understand the need to compromise, especially in a divided government, and with people with different views. i don't need him to believe 100% of what i believe, but i need him to get to reflecting some republican values and tone that's worthy of the party of lincoln and reagan and uniting the country. >> thanks for being on. >> you bet. thanks. in a moment, the panel's take and why paul ryan is still not endorsing trump. and later, a man that served

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donald trump sat down today with paul ryan, it was more than midwest style meets manhattan. they have different roles to play after the campaign. speaker ryan has unity to consider to control the house, and limiting down ticket damage from trump without alienating millions of trump voters, which may explain why he is softening tone without fully embracing him. take a look. >> this is not conservatism. what was proposed yesterday is not what this party stands for and more importantly it is not what this country stands for. if a person wants to be the nominee of the republican party, there can be no evasion and no gains. they must reject any group or cause that's built on bigotry. if i see ideas and comments that mislead the people as to who we

are as republicans, i'm going to speak out on those. it is time to set aside bullying, to set aside belittlement, and appeal to higher aspirations. we need a real unification of our party. after a tough primary, that's going to take some effort. we are committed to putting effort in. i am not interested in litigating the past. i am interested in going forward and seeing where the common ground exists to make sure we can have a unified republican party. >> speaker ryan from last december to now. let's bring in alex burns, reporter for "the new york times," biographer jonathan seen ee. and mark lamont hill, and trump supporter, and former congressman rick lazzio. are you surprised there wasn't endorsement. >> i was surprised, i heard from

dana bash that many congressmen and women came to paul ryan and said you need to do this and get on board. there wasn't just pressure from voters and republicans and trump people but fellow congressmen and women. i was surprised. nevertheless, i think basically today we got everything short of endorsement. that's enough to move forward. >> tara, seems like the meeting with senators, seems like it is moving in the direction of party unity. >> yeah, speaker ryan is in a tough position. he didn't ask to be here, but he is in it now. never probably imagined six, eight months ago that he would be here again, making one of the toughest political decisions of his life. i think he is dealing with an internal conflict because of donald trump's past and statements and even policy positions on things. just anathema to what paul ryan has built his career on. this is why you didn't see endorsement. as speaker, he doesn't want to give away all leverage.

he wants donald trump to tone it down, to try to be more presidential because moving forward they have to endure the democrats constantly reminding republicans in congressional races what donald trump said. for example, harry reid was on the senate floor already going after republicans saying mitch mcconnell, you seem to support all of the despicable comments that donald trump made about women. that's the leader of your party. i am assuming you agree with that, too. you have to deal with that, republican congressional candidates have to deal with that kind of onslaught and speaker ryan has to walk a fine line on how to build cover for those guys. >> congressman, do you think this is about maintaining leverage over trump? >> to some extent. what paul ryan is saying is what tara is saying, i want to see how you lay things out. i care about social security. you can't balance the budget without social security, you have to do something about entitlements. you need to talk about that to be responsible. i also think rising poll numbers

is an unbelievable positive in terms of trying to create an atmosphere of consensus. that was a big plus. three battleground polls come out showing in a dead heat, very important. the other thing, one thing that unifies republicans now, republicans that are favoring donald trump is they want to beat hillary clinton. so that's unifying principle. i think republicans have to move past that, have a positive agenda they sell to the american public. that's going to be more difficult to get to. >> alex, in terms of reporting for "the new york times," seems like you're hearing donald trump may be willing to massage some policy positions. do you know where there seems to be wiggle room? >> i think in some ways easier to say where there isn't wiggle room. there are a couple of areas where he has firm views, things like immigration and trade that put him at odds with paul ryan.

but talk to folks advising on issues like taxes and fiscal discipline, retirement security, they say there's a lot of room for conversation, for negotiation. you go down a list of positions trump has taken on issues like minimum wage. it is a different position virtually every day. >> recently on the idea of banning or temporary ban of muslims, he said that's a suggestion. >> what his people will say, and trump i think would acknowledge this, he is a negotiator by instinct and political philosophy, what it takes for him to lockdownhe republican nomination, get the party on board is back away from big things he said in the primary. i don't think any of us would be knocked over by that. >> nice way of -- he didn't just say i am negotiable and flexible, i want a ban, then he said not a ban, just a suggestion. that's a tricky place to be. i think paul ryan, he is in a tricky spot. has to be careful not to overplay his hand.

every time the republican party tried to keep wraps around donald trump, he managed to evade them. if paul ryan thinks he let's go of all authority, he could end up on the wrong side. >> interesting piece in "the washington post" saying ryan is giving a head nod to congressional republicans about a path forward, basically talk about secretary clinton, how she would be a bad president, don't agree with trump on everything but know he agrees on core principles. >> i think the key in the intro was down ticket damage. that's what we talked about. when i think about the election, and it is early, i think about 1980 during the reagan landslide when 12 democrats lost senate seats, including frank church, gaylord nelson, george mcgovern. it is harder in the house because of redistricting and gerrymandering. in the senate with statewide raises and donald trump as anchor, you could see people like john mccain lose seats.

>> way more republicans have to defend seats than democrats. >> when you hear trump on fox saying that was a suggestion, banning muslims, does that raise concerns? is he backtracking for general election? >> it doesn't. certainly policies that are an end and certain that are means. pro-life, that's an end we want to achieve. the muslim ban was never an end. >> does he want a ban on muslims? >> that's never been his policy, keeping muslims out. policy goal is to protect the borders. that's the means he suggested to that end. >> i don't understand, is he going to pursue, maybe we don't know this, do you think he is going to pursue a temporary ban on muslims entering the u.s. or do you think he is not? >> he is going to suggest that, say this is what needs to be done to secure the border. i assume he would talk with the fbi director and get his input.

>> building a wall, is that a suggestion? >> that's an end of itself, an end, not a means. i don't think that's at all negotiable. i think that's a cornerstone of his campaign. muslim ban is to protect the country, we found out today i want to point out, in germany, they're investigating 40 people that entered the country they believe are associated with islamic terrorism. in the mass open immigration, germany has to back step. >> germany had about a million people come from syria. >> they have. >> congressman, do you think everything is up for negotiation? that's one of the criticisms by conservatives of donald trump all along that these are opening salvos in negotiation. >> if donald trump is elected president, he will be the triangulation president. you have to accept that when you vote for him, he is not going to be down the line on terms of conservative president, that's not going to happen. number one. number two, when he says things like we ought to have a religious litmus test, it is

offensive to core republicans that believe the greatness has been based on immigration and that we don't want to create religious litmus. one thing to say pause on syrian immigrants, another to say all muslims be kept out of the country. this is where republicans that are on the ticket, senate or house members are thinking do i want to be associated with this. right now, it is dying down. polls are coming up. but it is a quick trigger for people to pull back. more to talk about, including breaking news, reaction from the trump campaign about his long time butler who works at mar-a-lago letting loose with ugly statements about hanging the president. he told cnn today that president obama should be, quote, hung from the port coof the white house or as i call it, the white mosque. that's not all he wrote. details when we come back. carplay integration.new ae

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the secret service is going to investigate one of donald trump's long time employees after posting on facebook he wants president obama killed. he is a 17 year butler.

trump's campaign disavowed the horrible statements, says he hasn't worked at trump miralago in years. but that may be a technicality. when he tried to retire, he decided he was irreplaceable and kept him around as a historian. may not be on the payroll, but is there as historian, giving tours. randi kaye joins me with more. >> reporter: anderson, if anyone wonders why they're investigating, they can go to his facebook page. he is 84 years old. here's why he may be in hot water with secret service. just yesterday, mother jones said he posted on his facebook that president obama, quote, should have been taken out by our military and shot as an enemy agent in his first term. the post has since been removed. when cnn called for comment, he

confirmed he did write the post. said he used hung, not shot, correcting the post, then told cnn i prefer he be hung from the portico of the white house or as i call it the white mosque. threatening the life of the president is a federal crime, that's why the secret service is on the case. >> he's been talking about hillary clinton as well, correct? >> absolutely. if you have kids in the room right now, you may want to cover their ears. about hillary clinton, he wrote this shows kill reclinton to be lying, deceiving, finished that with the c word. and added i would never cast my ballot for this bitch in any election. this coming from a man that worked for trump the last 30 years ago or so, notes on his facebook page he does not speak for donald trump, these are his opinions, anderson. >> wasn't there controversy yesterday about the trump campaign and white nationalist or supremacist?

>> there was, mr. trump had to distance from a convention delegate that's a well known white sue premises. the delegate is william daniel johnson has pushed for whites only united states, made up of people with no ascertainable trace of negro blood. he was on the list of delegates that the trump campaign submitted for certification by the california secretary of state. once this was exposed, the trump campaign quickly blamed a computer glitch and database error for his name being on the list of delegates. he later resigned as delegate, didn't want to create more baggage for the trump campaign. and remember he got the endorsement of david duke earlier. when asked about that, he failed to forcefully reject that. >> and white supremacists did a robe oh call on trump, making headlines months ago. thanks so much. back with the panel. what do you make of the butler

slash tour guide on his facebook? >> donald trump's campaign as you reported, said they're horrible statements, disavowed the butler as they should. those views that were just enumerated. there's no room in this society and country for those viewers, and donald trump believes that. i think the notion he is in trump tower, trying to get the delegates in line with the butler is silly. most people think trump is a good man that embraces all races. many african-american employees say what a kind boss he is. for ery statement you heard about trump being involved by a third party tangential relationship to a butler he fired many years ago, could put out equally positive statements from african-american employees saying he is very fair. >> the question is he wasn't fired. >> not working, retired. >> for those that say it is

important, they will say this reflects, can't be of surprise to donald trump, that this employee felt, close employee to trump who had close interaction with him felt totally comfortable saying these things on a public forum. >> really comfortable, which makes you wonder what was it about everything that's going on here. he's not alone. anyone that reads my twitter feed, i think i have been called all the things he is said, might even be on my twitter feed. this is pervasive with trump supporters, unfortunately there's an ugliness brought out of the campaign, unlike anything you've ever seen before, which is troubling. whether donald trump believes it or not, that's, you know, something that he's going to have to deal with. when he played coy with the kkk during that thing, that didn't help the situation. moving forward, these kind of associations like conservatives went after barack obama and his associations with reverend wright and bill ayers, obama supporters would say well, he

can't be responsible for what those people said. well, i mean, which is it? this situation with trump, he was closer to the butler than people want to say. the campaign is inconsistent on this. the butler introduced him at miralago march 6th. and had a glowing profile in "the new york times." the trump campaign didn't disavow him then because it was a glowing profile. >> you don't have any evidence how close he was with donald trump. >> he introduced him march 6th. >> you're speculating, by the way, check out my twitter feed, hundreds of horrible things are said. irresponsible to sit on the program and speculate about closeness of the butler to donald trump and whether you think donald trump knew about these views. you have no information to support that. likewise, no support that someone on your twitter feed is related to donald trump. >> come on.

he introduced him at miralago. >> the trump campaign moved to disavow this. >> give them credit. they disavowed it. there are going to be crazy, toxic people in the organization or volunteers that you have no control over that say things. your responsibility as candidate is to kwaush it. >> seems to me -- i am not saying there's anything else he could have done, nor am i saying that donald trump, candidate trump knew this. i agree with you. however, there is something noteworthy. when there are so many people that are white supremacists, and they seem to hang around you, not around jeb bush or john kasich or hillary clinton, there's something about trump's campaign that speaks to them. there's something he's doing

that doesn't make them feel i will yen ated in that position. >> i want to start a trending hash tag, butler syndrome. this connects this story to before, part of what congressional people are afraid of these explosions will happen every day, every week. today was the butler, tomorrow it will be somebody else. donald trump will say something. it is like the butler syndrome. they're afraid trump campaign will continue to implode. trump himself will say these things, and that will drag down the ticket, that will drag down lots of candidates in the election. >> in your reporting do you hear concerns about these kind of things a lot from folks in the gop? >> enormous concerns, not about the butler specifically or this kind of violent rhetoric, but regularly every time trump takes a step forward. think back to super tuesday and florida primary. almost every time he scores a big victory.

call that visit to washington a win for him. there's also other major distractions, david duke or this episode today, tax returns earlier this week. for somebody like paul ryan that wants to give the nominee benefit of the doubt up to a point, don't want to handcuff to a guy with a giant surprise on hand. >> we have to take a break. some worries conservatives have, the way his positions have changed over time.

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welcome back. the republican party tries to find a way to come together with donald trump as the presumptive nominee, there are hurdles, the biggest for some republicans the question whether trump has conservative credentials they look for in a candidate. house speaker paul ryan has been in that group. one reason it can be tough to get a read from a policy standpoint on who trump is in terms of position, tom foreman takes a look. >> reporter: throughout this chaotic campaign, the trump brand is built on clear, strong statements. for example, last december when he called for all muslims to be

barred from coming to the u.s. >> donald j. trump is calling for total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states. >> reporter: with the nomination looming, listen to him now. >> it's a temporary ban, it hasn't been called for yet, nobody has done it, this is just a suggestion. >> i am donald trump and i approved this message. >> reporter: trump the nonpolitician has been doing what politicians do so well. highlighting possible flip flops by opponents while quietly shifting his own views, on minimum wage, last fall he acknowledged some people want to see it raised. >> but we cannot do this if we are going to compete with the rest of the world. we just can't do it. >> so you would not raise minimum wage. >> i would not raise the minimum. >> i like the idea of let the states decide. but i think people should get more. i think they're out there, they're working. it is a very low number.

>> reporter: on his tax plan. earlier, he promised a break for middle class america and to hammer the wealthy. >> in other words it is going to cost me a fortune. >> reporter: and now? >> if i increase the wealthy, that means they're paying less than now. i am not talking about increasing from this point, i am talking about increasing from my tax proposal. >> reporter: and on immigration, he proposed a wall along the southern border. >> we will build the wall. who is going to pay for the wall? who? >> reporter: trump insists building a wall is not open for negotiation. but other parts of his immigration plan might be. >> things are negotiable, i'm be honest with you, make the wall two feet shorter or something. everything is negotiable. >> reporter: all of this makes trump vulnerable to claims that he, too, is a flip flopper. it also reveals he is well aware of a basic political reality.

primaries may be won by strong positions on the left and right, but the white house is usually won in the middle. anderson? >> thanks very much. charlie sykes is talk radio host from paul ryan's stomping grounds. great to have you on again. these shifts from trump, there seem to be a pattern, throws out a provocative statement, then indicates flexibility, ne goeshability which makes it hard to pin him down. >> makes it difficult to rely on him. this is the problem the republicans have. there's a lot of happy talk, but two big problems. donald trump's character and principles or lack of principles. i think you see that illustrated. republicans may be in a room with him 45 minutes, he will tell them how he stands on a variety of issues, but they have no idea how long that will stick, whether that will change. if paul ryan wants to find out if donald trump is able to campaign as an adult and as a

conservative, and this is going to be tricky, the man isn't going to change character in 48 hours or 24 hours, and in terms of position, he is a blank slate. the reason he is all over the map, maybe he is being clever, maybe there is no fixed course. paul ryan with bedroom principles and donald trump says what he thinks he needs to say in the moment. >> today on the meeting with ryan, did it seem to you it is basically speaker ryan before he gets on the trump train? trying to figure out where things are going? >> this will be the most complicat complicated bromance. the dilemma for paul ryan, he knows who donald trump is, but he has a job. he has to be, as speaker of the house of representatives, he has to make the best of a bad situation. maybe there's a possibility that

he can draw donald trump toward conservatism, maybe provide some policy guidelines to do this. maybe he can heal some of those wounds. you want to talk about two different guys, last week you had donald trump who is releasing flying monkeys on paul ryan. paul ryan trying to be conciliatory, trying to be persuasive. again, a lot of happy talk, huge gaps remain. >> where do you go as somebody who was part of the never trump movement? >> still there. >> still there. >> very much so. i can't say that the man is a liar, a con man that makes fun of the disabled, women, emotional stability of a nine-year-old playground bully, but yes, let's give him nuclear codes. i don't know how you do that. i don't know you say that, the man is a racist, misogynist, but make him president because of party loyalty. that's a difficult move and i think a lot of republicans are

counting on either the public having complete amnesia or the anti-hillary thing being that strong. the reality is that at some point you have to draw the line and say i can't be part of this. >> charles sykes, appreciate you being on the program tonight. just ahead, with donald trump turning fire on hillary clinton, she's facing a crucial strategy decision, fire back in the same fashion or try to stay above it all. others tried both tactics and failed. look at what her campaign seems to be wanting to do next.

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big, fat beautiful lie. it has been a terrible, terrible lie. >> the kind of language coming from donald trump is hateful. >> if i had a contest between crooked hillary clinton and the media, i'm not sure, folks! >> trump keeps saying things like well, you know, i didn't really mean it. it was all part of my reality tv show. if we buy that, shame on us. >> you saw secretary clinton hasn't shied from mixing it up with trump, though her style is less scorched earth. she recently said she's focusing on policy, not respond to insults. sounds familiar. that strategy didn't work out well for the 16 candidates that ran against trump. back with the panel. alex, do you think she's damned if she does, damned if she doesn't? she said she's going to focus just on running her race. lot of republicans tried to do that. marco rubio tried to fight back,

didn't work well for him either. >> i think there's no obvious right answer for how to deal with personal attacks on this level which are truly unprecedented in presidential politics at this level. i think clearly what the clinton campaign decided to prioritize is trying to pin down trump on policy pronouncements before he can use the etch a sketch them away. doesn't want to find out in july they forgot about the muslim ban, propose some immigration deal. i think the rationale on some level is personal attacks are coming no matter what she does now, so if you try to pin him down on some issues where he is clearly on the wrong side of public opinion in a general election, maybe that serves you better in the long term, but it is a big risk. >> one of the things she kept saying in the interview was loose cannon, we heard that on the campaign trail. that's one of the things they're running up the flagpole. >> listening to that is depressing to think of what kind

of election we face. the country has serious problems to address. donald trump is dragging the election down into the gutter in a way that will make it a bitter, ugly election. whether it is hillary or bernie, the strategy is to point out contradictions as alex said. secondly, i think baked in the cake for trump is the fact he alienated women and latinos. republicans need 40% of the latino vote to win the white house. i don't think they'll get 20%. that's baked in the cake no matter where the polls are and how it looks election day. i think if we democrats continue to talk to voters, independent voters, this isn't the primary, we're going to win the election. >> mark, do you think hillary clinton or bernie sanders know how to run against donald trump? >> i think they do, and there are lessons to be learned by the primary. no one was effective fighting back with donald trump on a personal level. carly fiorina got a different response when he beat up on her,

attacked her. hillary clinton may have benefitted from that. he performs as a sexist, whether he is is not relevant. voters read him sexist with carly fiorina and talked about her appearance. with marco rubio, that wasn't the case. he has to be careful. she can play the loose cannon card. >> do you think him run differently against hillary clinton and bernie sanders than he ran against the gop? >> i think he has to. mark has a point that there's a gender dynamic at play. she's trying to say trump is anti-woman. you can't play into that. he has to treat her differently than others. but that doesn't mean insulating her from very real questions like the clinton foundation and her e-mail setup. she has to answer those. staying silent won't be an option. >> she doesn't have to push the narrative, they have to run the ad that the super pac attacked trump. these are things he said about women. >> he has to address those. >> we have to take a break.

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