6:00 in the east. up first, the battle between competing factions of the republican party continues. conservatives pushing for a third-party run. trump is pushing back against the "new york times" for its story trump against women and we will speak to his attorney. and demmiocrats locked in a battle about the future. today, still not decided. another clutch primary day. hillary clinton needing a win in kentucky or oregon to stunt bernie sanders momomentum. we have the primary covered as only cnn can. >> reporter: prime earp days, a little now. they're not counting votes or scheduling press conferences but no shortage of urgency inside the campaign to unite a party that remains skeptical and push

back against attacks that threaten to sink the campaign before it really gets off to that general election start. donald trump changing his tone from bombastic -- >> i went to the wharton school of finance, a great student, build a fortune. >> reporter: to everyday american. >> i view myself as a person that like everybody else is fighting for survival. that's all i view myself as, and i really view myself now as somewhat of a messenger. >> reporter: as the anti-trump movement is struggling to find a figurehead, unable to entice a candidate to join the fray with a third-party run. >> a third-party candidacy would be viewed as a silly thing and i don't think it's appropriate. >> reporter: john kasich, ohio governor and former presidential candidate telling cnn he won't take the plunge. >> i gave it my best where i am and i just think running third party doesn't feel right. i think it's not constructive.

>> reporter: billionaire mark cuban also contacted about a possible run, also in the "no" column. >> it's impossible for it to work. not enough time to get on ballots, hurdles too great, a ridiculous effort, so i passed. >> reporter: for conservatives a very real effort with a very small window to get it off the ground. they need a candidate. donor commitments. and they need a legal pathway. one that includes tens of thousands of signatures just to qualify for ballot access. all as deadlines loom, or in the case of texas, have already passed. meanwhile, trump is battling with the "new york times" via twitter over their front page article about his inappropriate behavior with women. trump's attorney leaving the door open to filing suit. >> i think that is a distinct possibility. >> reporter: the "times" standing by their story. >> our goal was to pull back and say, how does he interact in the office with someone who he's

dating or trying to date? and that was the purpose of our story. >> reporter: guys, traditionally a candidate see a negative story and try to get it off the front page as quickly as possible. donald trump taking the opposite tact, an unconventional attack on the "times" from an unconventional candidate. interesting to see if he keeps that going, not willing to let a story that could be damaging to his candidatesy just go. chris? >> all right. so trump is going to have an ongoing battle with himself. the democrats are battling each other. oregon and kentucky today holding primaries. bernie sanders hoping to hold off hillary clinton. the former secretary of state keeps her eye on the general with her super pac kicking off a $6 million ad campaign tomorrow and guess who it targets? donald trump. let's bring in cnn senior washington correspondent joe johns. joe, what do you know? >> reporter: chris, hillary clinton is clearly the front-runner in the race for the democratic nomination, but a string of wins by bernie sanders leaves her with an appearance of

vulnerability with democratic voters. to try to break the sanders string of victories, the clinton campaign has zeroed in with almost a dozen stops in the state of kentucky, which votes today, and she's been using her husband, the former president, who's won elections there before as a big selling point, suggesting he'll have a role in steering the economy, if she's elected. at the same time, she continues to hammer away at donald trump, and overnight she got a little help from the priorities usa super pac which just rolled out new advertising focusing on trump's treatment of women. listen. >> you know, you can see there was blood coming out of her eyes. blood coming out of her -- wherever. >> does she have a good body? no. does she have a fat ass? absolutely. >> you like girls 5'1" come up to where. >> if ivanka was my daughter perhaps i would be dating her. >> it's very hard to be a 10. >> you can tell them to go [ bleep ] themselves.

>> meanwhile, bernie sanders is hoping the oregon voters with their strong tradition of voting for progressive candidates will give him another big victory today. sanders continues to set his sights, though, on the state of california, and its primary, which comes on june 7th. in fact, sanders election night rally this evening is scheduled to occur in los angeles county. alisyn? >> joe, thanks for all of that. voting in parts of kentucky now under way. the polls in the eastern portion of the state are already open, and cnn's brin gingrass is live in louisville with the latest. how's it looking there? brin? >> reporter: chris said it, joe said it. bernie sanders has been on a bit of a streak and hillary clinton putting a lot of focus here in kentucky, making 11 campaign stops and really wanting to win this state tonight where 55 delegates are at stake. behind me the second doors opened up. a lot of voters coming in. about a dozen or so lining up ready to cast their ballots, and

2,600 registered democrats, registered here at this particular polling location, and we've talked to the supervisor here who says, yes, they usually see high turnout, and if history tells anything, they've had high turnout in past years. in 2008, when hillary clinton faced barack obama half of the state's registered democrats actually came out to vote. they are certainly expecting some bit of lines here, and we'll see how the day turns out. chris and alisyn? >> all right, brynn. looking first at returns to the state of the gop. keep phil mattingly here and bring in big shots. cnn senior contributor for the "daily caller" mr. matt louis. washington bureau chief, jackie kucinich. phil, check the box quickly with this headline. an interesting point you made. usually a bad story, try to move past it. not this time, but that's not so much because of the story but because of trump's, what? we a perceived ability to point his finger back at the "times"

saying it's a hit piece, not journalism? >> yes. donald trump wants to make it a fight about a negative story thinking he can shift it from the natural facts from a deep "new york times" investigation ov over the course of six weeks to a story about the media trying to take him down. no question about it, this is a strategy that has worked flawlessly almost throughout the primary. >> almost 40 people mentioned in the piece, one comes out turns the story. turns the flaretive. "new york times" reporters on tv defending the story. that's unusual. >> and i think, look, once he got one, one individual in the story, he was able to take that and go with it. you saw him use that in his attacks throughout the day, yet it's not normal. and i think the question, and i get nervous bouncing this off republican, does he shift the narrative and end up winning that fight? even people supporters more or less of donald trump just aren't so sure yet that this is the

best idea, but no question about it. his supporters are riled up and rallying around him and maybe that's all he wants. >> right. jackie, when you talk to voters, look at your twitter feed, they think this is exhibit a of the "new york times" and their bias. there was the woman who dated trump, who, you know, the whole piece starts by him asks her to put on a bikini. she wasn't offended. she was flattered. that's not how they spun it. doesn't he win this round? >> but it's not about his supporter it's anymore. it's about expanding his supporters, independents, bringing democrats over sick of watching their candidates fighting. to phil's point, talking to republican operatives yesterday as well. they are saying we are still on tv talking about donald trump and women. that is not good for us. >> why speculate? when we have one of the men in the mix right in the boxes in front of your face. brother lewis. when you look at this as a struggling conservative to find anden identity amongst yourselves, what do you think

about this situation with trump? is he presenting himself as the crusader against the norm, taking on the big shots like the "new york times"? or is he just getting tangled up in his own feet? >> i think he's -- i would say 35iking lemonade out of a lemon. i do think the problem with the "new york times" story is that it confirms what we already suspect about donald trump based on things he's done and said over the years including the megyn kelly thing, including what he said about carly fiorina and what he says on howard stern. the story itself i think is bad. what trump has done, though, i think is good. it's good for him. it's good politics and actually i think republicans are happy with this part of are donald trump, because there is a sense that the "new york times," the mainstream media, will always turn against the republican candidate, and, you know, beat them over the head. now trump is paying a bit of jujitsu against them. >> as a result of some of these

temperament questions, there are a handful of republicans, maybe more, certainly in congress, that are speaking out and saying that they have not yet been able to get their arms around donald trump as their nominee. read a couple portions of what some are saying. this is from congressman charlie dent. my colleagues i've spoken with all have serious reservations. congressman pompeo. a lot of his policies don't comport with my vision how i represent kansas. i'm hopeful over time he'll do better. and another, we honestly don't have enough detail to know. so they're taking to speaking out, reported on this, bill, and that's a big deal. >> what they're doing is telling the truth. right? they have reservations. they have reservations on policy, on tone, and you just listed three house members who all have re-election in november right now. i think the three members you listed off i think most interestingly are actually all

probably in safe seats, but they're looking at their colleagues. they're looking at their constituents, hearing from constituents when they go home who don't like the tone that donald trump has taken, don't like the message donald trump has taken and not what he was saying at the end tracks with what we've ladder from paul ryan. not just tone, it's policy. donald trump's policy he's laid out diverge greatly from what a lot of conservatives run their elections and campaigns on and worked their years in congress on. it's only natural these people would have reservations based on that fact. >> their fix, pretty obvious. they can be upset but he's who they have and this third party thing doesn't make sense from any angle. almost wasted energy for them at this point, unless it's going to push trump to be somethingdif. now the proof of performance in terms of the knocks on him personally are clear enough that we're seeing the first ad from a super pac supporting hillary clinton. the one begala works for and putting out as a first salvo

against trump. here it is. >> would you cut off our -- >> planneded parenthood, yes, i would. >> you know, you could see blood coming out of her eyes. blood coming out of her -- wherever. >> do you believe in punishment for abortion? yes or no, as a principle? >> the answer is that -- there has to be some form of punishment. >> for the woman? >> yeah. there has to be some form. >> jackie? effective? >> i mean, we've already seen ads like this. trump use -- using trump's own words against him. i think that's what we'll see over and over again. we saw it a little from democrats and from republicans in the primary, and i think you should expect more of this, and as long as he keeps doing interviews and talking they're going to have more fodder until he really does kind of bring it back and restrain himself. >> matt, you wrote a book about this, about strategic problems. this is something a little deeper, though, right? you can negotiate anything that's going to wind up being a

policy matter, but ideals are things that especially conservatives want locked in. how does this play? >> right. i mean, so -- so donald trump is not an orthodox conservative, but there are also character issues which i think are even more important, and i think republicans right now, you know, everybody is self-interested to a certain degree, and people are making a calculation like, is he going to win? and if he doesn't win, am i better off being for him or against him? and i think the question is, if he's bary goldwater, then you're better off -- richard nixon was nominally for barry goldwater, ronald reagan was for barry goldwater, if you're barry goldwater, republican, you're better off reluctantly supporting the nominee. what if he's mccarthy? that's the problem. republicans have to figure which he is and which model if either

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hillary clinton and bernie sanders still battling it out with primaries in kentucky and oregon, and other big battles brewing that have party officials worried. bringing back in our panel. jackie kucinich what will happen today in oregon and kentucky? >> you know, interesting. we're not looking at a lot of polling in either of those states in respect oregon, one poll hillary clinton looked very much ahead. demographically oregon is a better place, it's very white. it's very liberal, which tended

to be a really good place for bernie sanders. now, kentucky, clinton has engaged there. you've seen her doing a lot more events. she's not seeding it like she may have other states that she's lost recently, and the interesting thing is how much she's been talking up bill clinton. there's a reason for that. he's very popular in kentucky, and particularly with white men who typically have been a bit of a weakness for hillary clinton this cycle. >> we do have a moment of that. so let's play what she has said about what her husband's role would be. >> my husband, who i'm going to put in charge of revitalizing the economy, because you know he knows how to do it. >> thank you. >> you said bill clinton would head up the -- would he be in your cabinet? >> okay. so, matt, how are we to interpret what bill clinton's role would be, and is that winning for voters? >> well, he's obviously very popular in kentucky and in a lot

of places, and i think he looked back to the 1990s in hindsight, things were pretty darn good, and even in light of donald trump being the republican nominee, it's hard to make the character charge against bill clinton. so it's understandable why she brings him up. it's still not clear exactly what he would be doing as the first dude in the white house, and even if he would be living at the white house. so -- >> he wouldn'tbelivingatthe white house? >> i think there is question whether or not he would. at least i saw that the other day, but i would love to know a little more. you actually have a past president who was in the white house for eight years. it would be fascinating to find out how he could actually serve a little more details about that. >> no real rulebook, right? phil, trying to figure out, how do you use the former president? how much of a liability? when is he a liability? what do they do with him? i don't think he could be a secretary? right? in presidential succession, remote but i don't know about another term. that's not the real question. the real question, what's the

plus/minus. from trump's perspective, we see he thinks clinton is very important, wants to talk about him a lot. what do you hear about balancing here? >> i'm ig treeged by the idea of the campaign sitting in a many radio, what do we do with bill clinton? we can use bill clinton? no question, bill clinton will be attacked. donald trump has shown attacking bill clinton on his transgressions in office, before and after in office is going to a key component of his attack line. bill clinton within the democratic party, huge favorable ratings. people look back with a genuinely positive view and look back at the '90s as a positive thing. bernie sanders attacks much of the economic policies that bill clinton put into place at the end of his term. if you're talking general election, talking about as jackie said reaching white, male voters, such a problem for hillary clinton up to this point in a state like kentucky or in that kip of region, bill clinton works. you have to use him and deploy

him. the idea they would shelf him, be concerned he would go off the rails maybe repeat some things said in 2008, i just don't think that's reality's they will use bill clinton, deploy him as much as possible, and i think it, woulds for them the way they've kind of look at the map right now. >> jackie, speaking of attacks, some in the local democratic party say they are coming under attack. this is in nevada, from bernie sanders' supporters. bernie sanders' supporters wanted bernie sanders to be awarded more delegates in nevada. though hillary clinton won, they feel she couldnshouldn't have g as many delegates as she did. he should have gotten more. and voicemails, threatening. left on roberta lange's voicemail. listen to this. >> hi, roberta lange, you're probably not going to get back to me because you don't care about the american people, but what you did today was corrupt, wrong and the founding fathers of our country would be ashamed of you. you deserve to be in prison, not the chairman for the democratic

party. >> pretty terrible. you probably just guaranteed [ inaudible ] in philadelphia. i'm not a psycho bernie supporters but they're out there and you made a bad decision by completely ignoring the democratic process tonight. thanks. bye. >> i mean, people are angry. angry. when they find out. look, we've seen it on both sides nep think the system is rigged and the voters are angry about it and it sometimes veers to what is perceived at threats. >> right. we did see this on the other side and seen it, accusations fly back and forth about clinton supporters threatening bernie sanders supporters and vice versa. frankly, end of the day, thas no place in political discourse, and you would imagine the campaigns would have to come out and try to put this to bed as soon as possible. >> they are doing that. >> put behind this kind of behavior. >> nay say they're doing it. first, that's nothing. i have more than that going on

on my twitter feed thread right now. it is a to putically negative entir entire environme environment, no question. violence at clinton rallies, talk about the violence at trump rallies which is true, and the criticism there, is he fomenting that, but you've had it at the democratic rallies as well. the ang sir clear. how they settle that party is just a big a problem as the gop. >> great to see you all, panel. get to this story. long, agonizing lines at airports and getting worse. how do the nation's airports make it any better? look at these crowds. we'll show you. we'll explain. [man] hello,totte. sales department? yes...i can put you right through. ♪ sales department-this is nate. human resources. technical support. hold, please.

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we have all been there, stuck in long lines waiting to get through tsa checkpoints at the airports. well, those lines are getting longer, and patience is getting shorter. cnn aviation correspondent rene marsh has answers including what any of this has to do with tiny horses and clowns. hi. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. i'll get to that in a second. you know tsa heard of a call

from passengers, airlines in airports, must do better. this summer air travel is expected to rise to the highest level ever with 222 million people expected to fly. we are not even at the peak travel season yet and for months flyers have dealt with long security lines and missed flights because of it. we know tsa immediately increased overtime for its officers just last week and they are speeding up the hiring process for 768 officers to get them on the job by june 15th. but the union representing tsa officers say that won't be enough. they say they need 6,000 new hires. they're also deploying some bomb sniffing dogs as a way to cut down the wait times. that things will not get better overnight. the goal, start getting passengers through the checkpoints faster at least by june. in the meantime, back to those horses. some airports like san diego international, they have hired entertainment to de-stress

passengers while they wait including stilt walkers, jugglers, clowns. i guess think figure if you're going to be waiting in line for an hour or more, you may as well be entertained and it looks pretty entertaining to me, alisyn and chris. >> wow. interesting strategy. >> alisyn thought that the tiny horses and clowns line was like snuck in there by me to mess up one of her reads. >> so i omitted it. >> it turned out to be news! >> that's true. i thought you were being clever. >> let that be a lesson to you. >> it was real. wow. >> thank you very much. told you it was real. >> i can't believe it. >> it says, news. more than tiny horse and clowns. that's in every story. up next, one-on-one with john kasich, who shows up on a tiny horse. no, he doesn't. could he run with trump? might he run against him as a third-party candidate? the ohio governor tells it to you straight. what he says you have to know about trump and this race, when he faces off with that man right

there, anderson cooper. next.

former presidential candidate ohio governor john kasich breaking his silence in a cnn exclusive. this is his first interview since suspending his 2016 campaign, and the governor tells our ac, anderson cooper, he's not yet ready to endorse donald trump and says he won't serve as vp. you can pretty much forget about him entering the race as a third-party candidate. guess what? i didn't even give away the headline. take a look. >> there's a story in "the washington post" this weekend, a lot of pickup, that a number of republicans, conservatives, mitt romney among them, has been looking at the possibility of a third-party candidate, or an independent candidate, or conservative candidate. your name's mentioned. has mitt romney reached out to you? >> i don't want to get into who -- i've had a phone call with somebody that wanted to consider me running at a third-party candidate. >> are you considering running? >> no, i'm not going to do that.

>> why? >> well, i think that -- i gavemy best where i am, and i just think running third party doesn't feel right. i think it's -- it's not constructive. and, you know, one of the things that's interesting is -- it's really hard to be thoughtful when you're dealing with the media. because many of them think that everything is sort of a political ploy or a political play. it's been a little bit of a disappointment for me. income, i've talked to somebody in the media to say you have a responsibility. you know, it's really been interesting. you can have depth to something, and people think, well, that's just politics. no. when i talk about two paths. you know, the path of rebuilding the country or pushing people down into the ditch, that's not some political ploy that somebody calculated for me. that's my insides. that's my soul. and so a third-party candidacy would be viewsed as kind of a

silly thing and i don't think it's appropriate. you know, i just don't think it would be the right thing to do. >> in terms of what happens now, would you -- i guess the obvious question is, will you endorse donald trump? >> i don't know. i told you about this two paths. if i feel, you know -- i read some stuff recently, well, i'm not glued to this, i've ready other stuff that is too negative. i don't like when he's attacking, putting people down. you know, learn to take it a little bit. the idea, at least initially of, maybe paul ryan shouldn't be at the convention. come on, man. you won. be magnanimous in victory. anderson what i'm saying is, i'm for uniting, and i have to see him move to uniting, if he doesn't, i'm undecided here at this point. so we'll see what happens. so just -- >> just for the record, yew undecided whether or not you would endorse donald trump? >> right. i'm undecided.

>> worpt you would vote for him? >> endorsement would mean a lot. frankly, my daughters and wife have watched this, and if i would turn around and endorse him, they would be like, why, dad? we'll see what he does. he has a chance to move to the positive side and unify this country. >> is it a question of tone or policy? >> i think it's both. i think it's both. and, you know, have some consistent policy and be positive. >> obviously your name has also been talked about as vice presidential candidate, vice presidential pick. is that something you would consider? during the campaign you said absolutely not? >> no. i've not changed my mind on that. look, i've said all along i have the second best job in america. >> if donald trump calmed you up today and said you've got to do this, do this for the country? >> no. i'm not inclined to do that. i'm not. no. and i'm really actually excited about getting back here with my team for the state of ohio. i gave it my best. >> because trump said he wants somebody with, you know,

experience on the hill. >> here's the situation. you know, we've had two different messages. his message was, you know, the elites are bad, and everybody's giving you the shaft, and kind of gotten people angry, but my message is, let's stand against the wind. don't cave in to the negative. let's figure out how as people we can rebuild our country. those are two very inconsistent messages. so it would be very hard for me, unless he were to change all of his views and become a uniter, for me to get in the middle of this thing. i mean, look, in some ways john kasich was going to be the logical person to have a third-party run, because he stuck it out the longest. always said he would stay and present an alternative for voters, but he is quite clear, and unequivocal, that doesn't interest him now. >> right. anybody who asked about it earlier, it wasn't practical. >> sure.

>> would know he would never do that. he really is a very authentic person and in an inauthentic game. i think he highlights something for all of us here. we're living through a time that you and i have never seen, certainly in our professional lives. >> true. >> to think that a presumptive nominee has big shots in their own party saying not only am i not sure if i endorse this person? right? the presumptive nominee, i don't know if i'm going to vote for him yet and mentioning their families, uncharted politics in this day and age. that's what makes it interesting to watch. >> many things make it interesting including this. donald trump says the media is on a witch-hunt against him and he called our control room yesterday to make sure we saw that. is he right? we'll debate it. >> he said, hello. witchhunter? life insurance automobile insurance i spent 20 years active duty they still refer to me as "gunnery sergeant" when i call being a usaa member because of my service in the military

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there's no question that trump has a big role in controlling his own message. in fact, he just called our control room yesterday to make sure producers were aware of what was going on with this "new york times" story. so the question is -- is the media going after trump intentionally and more than it should? or is it supporting trump more than it should? let's discuss. men who know the media. brian estimate stelter and bill. you both know the "new york times" very well. let's get at this a little socraticly. the proposition would be this, mr. carter. your alma mater, "new york times," has it out for trump. just took a big swing at him, trying to hit him and missed. twisting the words of this poor woman who used to date trump who had to countme on and defend herself. >> did they 2witwist her words? >> twisted her intent. >> he intent was somehow spun. didn't change the whole entirety

story. overplayed or overstated, you could say. i don't think it's undermined to the point it's not a valid story. i don't buy t. he's saying it's a false story. >> maybe overplayed, too long, but a lot of truth that that story. a lot of quotes not in dispute and stories not in dispute. >> she's not disputing her quotes. the whole piece starts with her asking, him asking her to put on a bikini. she didn't know him. that's a forward, sometimes off-putting request for a man. >> i don't know about you, bill. i wouldn't do that. >> that's not how she saw it. that's how the "new york times" spun it. she was flattered. they didn't mention that. isn't that media bias? >> it's certainly making a point they want to make about his general demeanor and it's consistent with what they think all of their reporting showed. you're right. the woman maybe should have been quoted saying it didn't bother me. it still would be a decent anecdote. >> sure. include that. she said -- >> maybe she didn't say that, i don't know.

>> what's the "new york times" policy? i have an answer. if this happened to us in an interview, immediately put out the transcript. you think i'm spinning this? here it is. knock yourself out. when i was at abc news and here, news organizations aren't always crazy about that because there is editorial judgment. should the "new york times" put out the transcript? >> that would be a distraction saying a diversion from the story which is intact. the "times" is on the defensive here and maybe adapting to this media environment. >> you're great reporters. if i feel, brian, you were out to get me in this pace and that's why you did it the way you did. that's the perception of the "times" feeding a larger narrative about the media, do they have a responsibility to defend themselves, not because of the way you are, bill, saying there are 40 different interviews, put out the transcript. if you didn't mischaracterize her. >> the quotes, i don't think it would change the story. >> the context of the quotes. if he was, ha, ha, so donald. why i loved him.

you made a mistake spinning it the way you did. >> and trump at face value, saying the "new york times" is failing, it's a false and hit piece. he says these things all the time. he wants the story to be about the "new york times" and not about him and is in some ways succeeding. >> diverting attention from the base of the story. >> don't twist the quote. >> and by the way, a mystery he's talking -- >> you don't think they twisted the quote? >> the context. >> it's all context. >> she was debased. one of the things they said. >> con tax matters. >> i agree with that trump tweeted ten times about the "new york times." not campaign strategy or message for the fall but about the "new york times." it is a mystery why he believes this is a winning point. maybe thinking about reagan sighing with megyn kelly tonight and needs a new story. >> this is exhibit a, he thinks. >> republicans have never lost a single vote attacking the media. that's never happened.

attacking the media is a good strategy. he's running for president and has to be scrutinized. it's legitimate to go after things people are saying about him. saying an employee was fat, shouldn't eat candy, that's an interesting narrative about him, seems to me. >> the "times" did not do favors leaving out some of the context. the story was probably overplayed. 4,000-plus words. big on the front page sunday morning. the most read "new york times" piece this year. >> partly because of trump. why does he want to promote this story even more? it's not the strategy a publicist would tell him. we've seen with his phone call to i don't control room, he is his own publicist. >> i want to ask about something controversial doing on pt every time we have a trump supporter or surrogate on, why aren't you looking into hillary clinton's past? she is an enabler, went after the women who accused bill

clinton of sexual misconduct. as a journalist, that appears to be vetted. we lived through that. it's already dead. is it time to do this again, because for people who missed the '90s chapter? >> it's legitimate. if you want to do it. why not? >> a fair question. >> an entire conservative media that can do it, if they feel-- >> they do, do it, saying the mainstream. >> the "new york times" will be doing it -- >> i think they will. >> publish that before the trump story in terms of strategy. >> don't you see a different context. one is the actual candidate. talking about the guy, the woman and her husband. it's a little different. >> sort of. what donald trump has tried to make it about hillary clinton saying -- >> she was an enabler. >> what he's pointing out about her is more central to what this campaign could be about than his stuff. his case is, you're talking about me, my sexual peccadillos, back when i wasn't even in the game. i'm pointing you back to the clintons and in terms of what

they did, how it shaped what was going on in government at the time and what it means about how they lead this country. i think it's going to be revisited, and i think that this is a nice reminder in terms of trump. this is what trump does. his supporters need to know this. he plays the victim. he's not a victim. the macontrols the media as well as anybody in the business and calmed us the best and the worst within hours of each other. >> yes. >> so you have to know that as well. that's part of the truth here. i have been the best and the worst, beginning and end of a sentence. >> the answer to the media, all of the above. sometimes bias, sometimes not. i did stories about clinton, they have to be written, will be written. >> when she is out of this cycle he's now -- no longer a race on the republican side. there's still a story about her running. >> true. >> he's actually the nominee. she's not yet. >> true. >> great to talk to you.

a lot of news to tell you from all over the world. let's get right to it. >> are you considering running? >> no, i'm not going to do that. >> it was a ridiculous effort. >> i have no intention running for president. >> i just don't think it was the right thing to do this was a suicide mission. >> we have too much divisiveness in america. >> we are doing something very radical in contemporary american politics. we're telling the truth. >> i think we need much more talking and listening instead of are finger pointing and scapegoating. president obama awarding hero cops the medal of valor. >> i'm proud to be with the heroes all rising above and beyond the call of duty. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. good morning. welcome to your "new day." donald trump may be the last republican standing, but he's

still facing a big challenge from competing factions within his own party, trying to get conservatives in his corner even as some push for a third party to run against trump. so far, though, no takers, and doesn't look that practical. trump, meantime, is threatening a lawsuit against the "new york times" over its story on his behavior towards women, which trump calls a hit piece. trump's attorney will weigh in on "new day" in the next hour. on the democratic side, key primaries today in kentucky and oregon. hillary clinton trying to blunt bernie sanders' political momentum. we have the primary and all of politics covered the way only cnn can. we begin with our phil mattingly. good morning. >> good morning. primary day is different for the trump campaign now that they are the presumptive nominee, but no shortage of argumentsy inside his team. urgency to unify the republican party, urgency to build a campaign that can win in a general election and argumeurge fight back against negative

stories as we've seen in the last 48 hours. donald trump changing his -- from bomb bank. >> i built a fortune. >> reporter: to every day american. >> i view myself as a person that like everybody else is fighting for survival. that's all i view myself as. and i really view myself now as somewhat of a messenger. >> reporter: as the anti-trump movement is struggling to find a figurehead, unable to entice a candidate to join the fray with a third-party run. >> a third-party candidacy would be viewed as kind of a silly thing, and i don't think it's appropriate. >> reporter: john kasich, ohio governor and former presidential candidate telling cnn he won't take the plunge. >> i gave it my best where i am and i just think running third party doesn't feel right. i think it's not constructive. >> reporter: billionaire mark cuban also contacted about a possible run, also in the "no" column. >> it's impossible for it to work. there's not enough time to get on ballots. the hurdles are just too great.

it was a ridiculous effort. so i passed. >> reporter: for conservatives a very real effort with a very small window to get it off the ground. they need a candidate. they need donor commitments, and they need a legal pathway. one that includes tens of thousands of signatures just to qualify for ballot access. all as deadlines loom, or in the case of texas, have already passed. meanwhile, trump is battling with the "new york times" via twitter over their front page article about his inappropriate behavior with women. trump's attorney leaving the door open to filing suit. >> i think that is a distinct possibility. >> reporter: the "times" standing by their story. >> our goal was to pull back and say, how does he interact in the office with someone who he's dating or trying to date? and that was the purpose of our story. >> reporter: and donald trump obviously not backing off attacks of that story and not

exactly you would see a traditional politician do. they typically want those stories off the front pages as quickly as possible. one note on this story and everything we've seen the last couple of days with donald trump, alisyn, every time one of these issues pops up those lawmakers on capitol hill donald trump is trying to get behind his party to coalesce behind his nomination are forced to answer questions about those issues's that can be problematic, and you haven't seen a lot rush to his defense. at least not up to this point. alisyn? >> phil, thanks for all of that reporting. here with us this morning k. finding a candidate to take on donald trump and editor of "the weekly standard." good morning, bill. >> hi, alisyn. >> how is your effort to find a third-party candidate going? >> it's going fine. i mean, it's a tough thing to do. if it were easy, people would do it every four years but there are a lot of serious people who think the country deserve as better choice than hillary clinton or donald trump and are considering it. we'll know in a couple of weeks

whether someone serious steps up pt mechanical, legal logistical obstac obstacles, the money will be there. >> are they? what about not able to be on the texas ballot? deadline passed. other deadlines coming up? >> a legal challenge against the texas early deadline would succeed, a similar challenge suck ceded in the '80s. a couple lawsuits, texas, north carolina. other ballots, people can get on. people have a willingness to tell us how hard it is to do. let us try to do it. this isn't about a figurehead, it's an getting a person serious about running the country. have said they can't support hillary clinton or donald trump. asking them to run is a big thing for them and they're pondering it. they're serious people and i think one of them will do it. >> who's on your short list? >> i mentioned ben -- >> he said no? >> so far.

see what he says this week, next week. tom coburn, recently retired senator from oklahoma. early advocate for cutting government -- >> he might say health concerns that he wasn't able to do it? >> if you're just going to say it's tough to do and no one stepped forward. yes, no one stepped forward. do i think someone has stepped forward? have i been in touch with people? yes. do these people think the country deserves better? yes. if you just want to say people so far said, no, can't happen. great, you guys would love a trump/clinton race. fantastic news every day. two unattractive candidates fighting stupidly about their personal lives fighting with the "new york times." i'd like someone to run who could really do better for the country. >> my job is to be a reality check. not a cheerleader for, you know, your effort. i'm interested in your effort and certainly interested in hearing who you're talking to. >> i'm not -- >> a reality check is --

>> what is the reality, alisyn? >> in public people have said, thanks, but no thanks. we've heard john kasich, mark cuban. >> look, alisyn, donald trump clinched the nom ination one or two weeks ago. i've lost track of time. an elevating experience to see donald trump as the likely nominee. people are processing this, trying to see how doable it is. obviously doing due diligence. i don't want anyone to jump in and realize it's not the right thing to do. if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. i'm just working 0en it. people are entitled to say, gee, it's difficult. it is difficult. >> how about mitt romney? since he feels so strongly about this, why doesn't he step up? >> you should ask him, but, again -- >> what has he told you? >> he's told me that he feels strongly about it. i think he's trying to recruit other people. but i think he thinks correctly, a fresh face, someone who hasn't

run before probably would be great. someone like ben sass, terrific. a generational contrast with clinton and trump. this person will start with 15%, 20% support, what the polls suggest. there as an independent candidate, what if that person makes it on to the debate stage in october against trump and hillary. two deeply flawed candidates, neither should be president of the united states. you have an outside path to victory and the people i talk to really want to do it, if they do it they want to have a chance to win. obviously, a long shot. no one's kidding many themselves here. these aren't people who want to cause trouble, do a symbolic race, people who think the country deserves better than clinton or trump. >> have you talked to condoleezza rice? >> others talked to her a couple months ago. she doesn't think running for office is the best use of her abilities, but an awful lot of team like i have not spoken to her, so i don't want to speak to her. people would welcome a candidate who is not donald trump, whose

character and judgment are so fundamentally flawed or hillary clinton who isn't the right person to be president either. >> i want to show you the cover of "bright bark," i don't know if you've seen this, bill. they published this about two days ago. they say, bill kristol, republican spoiler, renegade jew. what does this mean? >> i don't know. you should have them. i haven't read it and i don't intend to read such a thing. it's really, well -- you should ask them. it's pretty -- there are always people like that. it's a big country, a lot of people, and people can build their websites and engage in that kind of rhetoric or, and put on headlines on pieces like that, i suppose. i think i'm, i'm a proud jew, a proud jew, strong supporter of israel, i don't think i've ever been call add renegade jew before. called a lot of things over 30, 40 years, everrenegade jew and republican spoiler? i worked on the reagan and bush administrations always wanted a republican for president. the first election after 11

times voting to a republican candidate i won't vote for the republican nominee. i like the party basically what they stand for has been correct over the years. anti-communism, tough on crime. limited government. constitutionalism. we've made obviously republicans made mistakes as well. i'm not happy to say i can't vote for the republican nominee, but i just think i can't this year. >> bill kristol, thank you for coming on and giving us some insight into what you're working on. appreciate t. thanks, alisyn. thanks. go to chris. bill kristol, frustrated, with good reason. other side of the ball, hillary clinton trying to shake bernie sanders once and for all. primaries held in oregon and kentucky today. the former secretary of state already focuseden 0 the general election in a way. her super pac kicking off a $6 million ad by tomorrow. the target is not bernie sanders. it's donald trump. let's get to the latest from cnn senior washington correspondent joe johns. what are we going to see, joe? >> reporter: that's the point,

isn't it, chris? hillary clinton is still slugging away in the primaries and donald trump is focusing on the general. she is the front-runner for the race for the democratic nomination, but a string of primary wins by bernie sanders leaves her with an appearance of vulnerability with democratic voters to try to break that. sanders string of victories. the clinton campaign zeroed in with almost a dozen stops in the state of kentucky, which votes today, and she's been using her husband, the former president, who's won elections there in kentucky before as a big selling point, suggesting he'll have a role steering the economy if she's elected. at the same time, she continues to hammer away at donald trump and overnight got a little help from the priorities usa super pac, which just rolled out new advertising focusing on trump's treatment of women. listen. >> would you cust off our -- >> planned parenthood, yes, i would. >> you could see there was blood

coming out of her eyes. blood coming out of are wherever. >> do you believe in punishment for abortion? yes or no at a principle? >> the answer is that, there has to be some form of punishment. >> for the woman? >> yeah. there has to be some form. >> reporter: meanwhile, bernie sanders is hoping the oregon primary with a strong position of voting for progressive candidates will give him another big victory, but sanders continues to set his sights on the state of california and its primary, which comes on june 7th. in fact, the sanders election night rally this evening is scheduled to occur in los angeles county. alisyn? >> joe, thanks so much for all of that. voters in kentucky are et gooding their say this morning with primary voting across the state. now up and running. cnn's brynn gingras is live at the polling snags louisville. how's it looking there, brynn? >> reporter: alisyn, yeah, polls open about an hour now, and looking outside it is absolutely pouring out, and i've got to

say, the weather really not influencing voters as of yet. you look over my right shoulder you see a decent line forms and we've seen that throughout the morning. we checked in with the secretary of state's office who predicting about 20% turnout in the state today. that's because it's only democrats voting today for the presidential election, at least. the republican caucus held earlier this year. 55 delegates at stake, and as you heard joe talk about, this is a state that hillary clinton wants to win. she put it a lot of money here. she's put in a lot of time, making 11 campaign stops within the last two weeks or so. and i had a chance to talk to some of the voters as he left this polling location, and i asked one person who was a hillary clinton supporter, i said, did all that attention reinforce your decision today? and he said, no. he was going to vote for clinton anyway, but he would like to see her more in the state of kentucky. so we'll see how her attention has actually influenced voters later tonight. chris? >> all right. watching the polls, brynn, thank you very much. also, breaking this

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let's bring in michael smerconish, cnn political commentator host of "smerconish" and a sirius xm radio host. good to see you. you heard the question there. when you look at these primaries what are your expectations today and what do they mean in terms of clinton closing this out or face questions how strong her mandate is even within her other party? >> despite the fact oregon is a closed primary, seems it's teed up for bernie sanders given the liberal tradition and history of that state. a unique voting system as well. everything is done by mail-in ballots that have to be received by tonight. i give him the edge in oregon. i give her the edge in kentucky, but it will all come down to working-class whites down south, and that's a demographic of critical importance to her. she needs to assure working-class whites she's best equipped to handle the economy. not only ghent bernie sanders, more importantly against donald trump because that's going to be turf he'll fight for. >> also a shift in the state of

play between sanders saying this matters, this matters, this matters and his saying, she can't do it. i can. it won't happen if she's there. that state in a state of change, even if she gets the nomination? >> delaying her full pivot towards donald trump. you mentioned the super pac. she's independent of what the super pac does and would like to get out on the campaign trail and not have to pay any mind to bernie sanders. she's starting to do that but can't make the full turn until she dispenses with him. and candidly, it's a bit of an embarrassment. right? that donald trump has been able to vanquish 20 or so opponents and she's still out there tussling with brnernie sanders. and momentum issue. doesn't want to come out of california licking her wounds claiming she won the nomination. >> is it an embarrassment or is it a true extension of the dynamic here? bernie sanders is a momentum

candidate as well. he and trump have captured the zeitgeist in america's soul right now of, who are we? we don't like how this is. we hate this stiystem. arguing from different points of view and competency but the same vibe? >> right, but i don't want to take anything away from him, but for donald trump, bernie sanders would be the story of this campaign. but go back in time a year. you know, she's the former first lady, the former senator from new york. the former secretary of state. he had no national profile until he got into it. he's a self-described democratic socialist. i don't think that's can sell in a general election. and she is still fighting with him and hasn't been able to lock it up. yeah. a bit embarrassing. >> i remember having senator sanders on "new day" talking about these issues and we were joking, if it matters so much to you, why don't you run? who wants to have this conversation let alone with me as the face of it? now he's got his own hash tag.

you talked about turning towards the general for hillary clinton. one of the super pacs, priorities usa, around he we know it as the begala pac, has an ad out. here it is. >> you know, you can see there was blood coming out of her eyes. blood coming out of her -- wherever. >> does she have a good body, no? does she have a fat ass? absolutely. >> you like girls that are 5'1", that come to do you where? >> if ivanka was my daughter, perhaps i would be dating her. >> it's very hard to be a 10. >> you can tell them to go [ bleep ] themselves. >> all right. now, you know, the implication here is obvious. however, donald trump is not running for godfather of your daughter. he's running for president and his supporters either don't care about this or see it as plain talk refreshing in an age of art fists. your take? >> my take is that nothing is going to shake the core support he enjoys. you remember, chris, when he said he could shoot somebody on

fifth avenue, they'd stand with him. that's been proven. the times flap you've discussed this morning is a further indication of that. it hardens the base. i think there are a very small number of independents in play in a general election. how many among us are truly undecided when you have personalities so well known at donald trump and hillary clinton? sigh think that everything that transpires the next several months with an eye towards that sliver of society, does this pac play with them? i don't know. we'll have to see. >> what do you think the better chance is? no question that even though it seems donald trump is under the attack and he's certainly playing the victim, that this is fertile ground for him? he likes the personal. do you think that hillary clinton gets baited into this, who's worse contest? or do you think there is a chance for her to say, look, this is about what's better for you. not which one of us is worst compared to the other personally. do you think she can take it

towards policy, or is this just too enticing? >> i think that's a great question. he is a tabloid candidate. i don't think that the john miller, john barron fiasco hurt him at all. i think that instead it just showcases the background he comes from. did you notice yesterday on the stump when she began to adapt some of his tonality in addressing him, i think that's a mistake for her. may i remind you of marco rubio and what happened when rubio tried to play at trump's level? she needs to play an elevated game and talk substance, leave the rest to him. and here's the key part. make sure that she selects a vice presidential candidate who can go toe-to-toe with this guy, because somebody is going to have to. >> it is interesting. i mean, even if you want to look at it strategically, the place he lines up best competitively with clinton, how both of them are disliked. play into unfavorable you're playing right into his hands. michael smerconish, thank you

for the analysis. we'll see how primeraries turn out and take it from there. what do you think? tweet us at "new day" or post your comment on facebook.com/newday. and aides for paul ryan and donald trump meeting. is a united front on the way? or are the gaps just too wide? we'll speak with one of the senators helping to shape this. that's next.

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this just in to cnn. two flight attendants are hurt after strong turbulence on a southwest airlines flight out of logan airport in boston. the flight with 133 passengers was heading to chicago but had to return to boston after the incident. the crew was taken to the hospital as precaution. no passengers were injured, we're told nap flight later continued on to chicago with a new crew.

but scary stuff, chris. all right. another chapter in the minnesota saga of prince. a judge ruling anyone claiming to be an heir to the fortune left behind by prince may have to prove it through dna testing, in an effort to keep people from castizing on the music icons death. you see on your screen, just last week a colorado federal prison inmate said he is prince's son. no word whether that is a legitimate claim. prince died last month at his paisley park estate and there are a lot of legalities yet to come. alisyn. senate democrats promising political theater tomorrow holding a mock hearing for the man who cannot get a real one. supreme court nominee mark garland. republicans are glocking his confirmation arguing the next president should maked appointment. a to be republicans calls the mock hearings a desperate act. an openly gay texas pastor is dropping a lawsuit against whole foods. jordan brown had accused the

grocery store of selling him a cake decorated with an anti-gay phrase. the pastor is now apologizing to whole foods and the lgbt community admitting the company did not actually decorate the cake that way. whole foods agreeing to drop a $100,000 countersuit. all right. senior aides for donald trump and house speaker paul ryan will meet this week trying to craft a unified policy for the republican party. will jittery gop lawmakers come around to reconcile with their presumptive nominee? senator john barrasso, republican from wyoming and republican policy committee chair and joins now. good morning, senator. >> thanks for having me, alisyn. >> you're part of this group of senators trying to find common ground. i know you also were a part of the group that met with donald trump this past thursday, and i'm curious how you tackled these many issues on which he seems to have a divide from traditional conservative

positions, such as foreign policy, taxes, the economy, some social issues, trade policies. where exactly did you find common ground? >> you know, the one issue, alisyn that really has united republicans for the last seven years and through the last several elections. the health care law that not a snell republican voted for. i'm a doctor and this has been devastating to the health care of so many americans, why one out of four americans say they have personally been hurt by the president's health care law. and so many of the president's promises have been broken. and that's why since the law was passed, republicans have picked up 13 senate seats, 11 governorships, 69 house seats and over 900 legislative seats around the country. and with the prices continuing to go up, premiums going up, with the new time to sign up starting november 1st, right before the election day in november, i think this is going

to be the november surprise of the election, as so many americans are shocked by just how much the costs continue to go up. >> so is that one sort of unifying issue of getting rid of obama care enough to overlook the divide on some other issues, such as, let's just tick through them. start with taxes. you know, donald trump has said various things on taxes, including being open to and supporting raising taxes on the wealthy. that's not a conservative standpoint. >> no. the conservative position, of course, is raising tax revenue by having more people working, by growing the economy. and you do that and one of the areas we talked about a united states us again is energy. energy is calmed the master resource for a reason. we have so much energy in this country. >> right. >> and alisyn, there's a story on the front page of the "new york times" today about the huge rift in the democratic party between labor and the environmental extremists. >> i saw that. >> cutting into the jobs.

right now two-thirds of americans believe the country is heading in the wrong direction. >> yeah. so senator, were you able to impress upon donald trump that there should be no tax raise and that his tax -- what his tax rate should be, since he was a little iffy on exactly what it would be? >> well, we're going to work through the details of all of this. he understands the conservative position is you raise revenue overall having more people working and growing the economy. we're a conservative party, limited government, lower taxes reasonable regulations, and the agreement we also came to, of course, is the fact that government regulations have been an anchor dragging down our economy, and so many of these things aren't new laws, alisyn. there are things that the president has done, and even the president's chief of staff said they're going to do audacious executive actions through the end of this term. >> yeah. >> certainly donald trump realizes that government can either create or crush

opportunity through a series of, through taxes, through regulations and through mandates, and president obama is regulating to death a private sector that he does not like and does not understand. >> so you agree with that nap there should be fewer regulations, fewer presidential sort of directives. it sounds like. what about something your specialty? foreign relations? are you comfortable with where donald trump is on foreign policy wherely as it relates to nato, our allies, whether or not they should have to pitch in more money and whether or not we would withdraw support or they should have access to nuclear weapons? all of those things? >> we specially discussed nato. i agree, the other countries have not been paying their full share. i also agree that we need to be involved with nato. it plays a very vital role, and i think it's needed more now than ever because of the mess that president obama has made of our foreign policy. >> and -- >> reset with russia, putin is

very opportunistic and has moved aggressively. the red line in syria that has essentially invited russia in to syria to pump up and to protect assad. i think that the president has been terrible with his iran deal, which continues to give lots of money to terrorists. >> so, senator, were you able to impress your feelings about that about putin, who donald trump has spoken some favorably about and about nato? which is different than what donald trump said? did you get him to come around to your position? >> we had a very good discussion on that. he understands, as people across the country do, this is why he's won so many primaries, that america wants to be, needs to be, the most powerful and respected nation on the face of the earth. that's what he wants. that's what all of us want. so i have great confidence, much more confidence in donald trump than in barack obama, who i think has made a mess of foreign policy and as even jimmy carter has said, that he can't think of

one place in the world where the united states has a better relationship now than we did when barack obama came into office. >> senator, do you think that donald trump should release his tax returns? to the public? >> i'm always one that supports transparency. he's going to have to make that decision, but i would support that. >> did you talk to him about whether or not that would be a good idea? >> no. we were mostly talking policy issues. issues related to uniting american voters behind him in the election against hillary clinton. because we as a nation cannot afford for mour years like the last eight years under barack obama. this economy with such tepid growth, that cannot be the new normal of a 1% or 2% growth for our country. we can't have a third obama term which is what electing hillary clinton would do. >> senator john barrasso. thank so much for being on "new day." >> thank you very much, alisyn. over to chris. so alisyn, barrasso and many others on both sides of the aisle criticize slow growth.

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donald trump, bernie sanders, hillary clinton. all have one thing in common -- a message of curbing wall street, talking about the economy, talking about slow growth, talking about rein it in, seeing a problem, knowing

the fix. well, where are they really on all of this? because when you talk about wall street, isn't that just the tip of the iceberg? isn't this part of thinking that's infected the entire economy? what is the cure? these are real questions that you don't get real answers to very often, but you're about to get them right now. ronna faruhar, author of a book perfectly timed. makers and takers: the rise of finance and the fall of american business" which comes out today. she's cnn global economic analyst, and an assistant managing editor at "time." also a friend but this is just the truth. this is the right thing. >> thank you so much. >> at the right time. let me read you an excerpt that really sets the table for the audience. our system of market capitalism is sick and the big picture symptoms are felt throughout our entire economy and indeed our society. our economic illness has a name. financi

financialization. >> what does that mean? >> financialization, a wonky word academics came up with with a deep meaning now. the fact that wall street has grown so much in size and in power that basically it has set the agenda for the entire economy. and let me step back and give you a real killer stat from the book. so if you think about what the financial's markets were set up to do originally. now, what adam smith, founder of modern capitalism said they were supposed to do, supposed to take our money, our savings, and put it into new business investments. businesses grow. they create jobs. they create growth. that's how the economy works. how prosperity is created. but today, only about 15% of the money in financial institutions is actually going into those new business investments. the rest of it is in this closed loop of trading in stocks and bonds, existing -- >> it's a ka seen oenchcasino. >> warren buffett says that.

>> tells people stay away from commoditized investments of different toys. one of the great questions you get into in the book. they know this, these people who want to be your president. they know that you want to talk about rigged. this is the definition of rigged. it's a closed system to create wealth in a way that rarely trickles down, to borrow that phrase. my lament, a bonding principle for of two of us when i came to cnn. nothing's different than it was in 2008. dodd-frank all day long, whatever you wa unt to say about that bill, that law, but they still do the same things. >> that's right. actually, chris you make a great point. this is a bipartisan problem. sometimes we think about the rise of wall street and associate it with reaganomics or the 1980s. nats true. some things happened during that period, but things hanned across both administrations, basically, the '70s onward, which republicans and democrat making small policy shifts, deregulation, changing corporate compensation rules change the

tax system to reward debt. >> and same reasons, reagan and clinton. same imp 'tis. big shots say, if you tweet this a little the economy will take often. >> that's right. >> because in the case with reagan, the banks are held back. if you allow us to diversify our portfolios with deposits, forget it. we'll go gangbuster. clinton, if you allow us to figure out what leverage is in the system. something you and i don't get in the consumer market. you get your house, loan to value arabio. how much your house is worth and what you can borrow. on wall street, 20, 30, 50 times what the cash is involved in investment. those two changes led us to the same place. great for them a short time and the rest of us had to bail it out. >> you make a great point. debt is at the root of all financial crises. during this period wall street has been growing -- by the way, wall street creates 4% of all jobs. takes 25% of corporate profits. think about that, that is sucking a lot of air out of the room and more and more debt has

fueled that and consumer debt has boomed over the last 40 years. now we have a company, people have to go into debt to keep spending to grow the economy. the underlying model is really broken. >> what can we do? what do you propose in the book? >> so a couple of things. for starters, i'm very interested in the current political discussion about this. every candidate has their proposal, bernie wants to break up the big banks. hillary wants to strengthen dodd-frank, take on shadow banking. trump talks about carrying gain taxes on the wealthy. each a part of, a tiny part of the system. one, look at the tax code. everybody wants to do that, democrats, republicans, incentivizing the right thing. stop incentivizing debt. be it for corporations taking on huge amounts of leverage causing financial crises, or potentially buying too much house for the kind of income they have. look at that and incentivize savings and investment.

we need to really fix the capital market so that they do what they're supposed to do, take our money put it into new businesses that can grow. >> the book, "makers and takers." it's a great title, even i can get it. this is a great book at the right time. people should read it. it will help inform them on what they should look for in these candidates. appreciate it. >> thank you so much. president obama honoring 13 police officers for their actions in the line of duty. two of those brave officers, those heroes, are going to join us live with their story, next. . (woman) now we have to wait forever to see it. (jon bon jovi) with directv, you don't. ♪ you see, we've got the power to turn back time. ♪ ♪ that show you missed, let's just go back and find. ♪ ♪ and let's go back and choose spicy instead of mild. ♪ ♪ and maybe reconsider having that second child. ♪ ♪ see, that's the power to turn back time. ♪ (vo) get the ultimate all included bundle. call 1-800-directv.

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the heroism on display by law enforcement never ceases to amaze. special recognition from the white house. >> medals and ceremonies like today are important. but these aren't enough to convey the true depth of our gratitude, our words will be hallow, if they're not matched by deeds. so our nation has a responsibility to support those who serve and protect us. and keep our streets safe. we can show our respect by listening to you, learning from you. >> joining us now are two recipients of the medal of

valor, niagara, and miami dade police departments. gentlemen, thanks so much for being here. congratulations. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> deputy tortella, what was it like to be honored for your h heroism? >> extra special because my family was here and i brought my wife and kids here, which we weren't sure we were going to be able do. it was just really honor for me, regardless of your political affiliation or what you think what going on in the country now. it is an honor to be, you know, presented a medal by the president. >> absolutely. and for your children to see you be presented with that. officer gutierrez, what was the moment like for you? >> it was pretty awesome. it was hard to get my head

wrapped around it, and it was overwhelming. >> officer gutierrez, i want to stick with you for a second. i want to tell the viewers what you were honored for. in october 2013, you were driving by a gas station, and we have video of this moment. you saw something suspicious. and when you went out to investigate, a suspect attacked you, as we can see here. he was trying to light two 8,000 gallon trucks of gasoline on fire. you sprung into action, as we see here. and you didn't stop. though you were stabbed 12 times by a screwdriver and a knife that that crazed suspect had in his hands. how did you have the strength to keep fighting through this? >> i thought of my family, and my family, the incident basically, if i -- if i thought if i'm not going to see them, i

can't. i have to fight. so i fought as hard as i could. i persavered. >> you said police work is boring, until a life or death situation. mine, that's what you live with everyday. >> yeah, there is, like they said, hours of sheer boredom with minutes of terror. so yeah, that's police work. >> and we can see that, obviously in stark relief there. deputy tortella, i want to talk about what made you a hero. there was a suspect on the lose. you were -- he was wanted for shooting his parents, and you confronted him. you were shot in the line of duty, and you also stopped the suspect from somehow making it to a nearby elementary school. you got the school to be on lockdown. tell us about the moment. >> well, the incident actually took place probably about 50 feet from elementary school where my wife was teaching and

my son and daughter were in their classrooms. my son actually heard all the shots, and praying under his desk it wasn't me outside but it was a domestic incident where this individual shot his parents both through the he ran back in his backyard. the backyard of his residence is where the playground for the school is. didn't know if he was going back there to do more damage or not. >> oh, my gosh. >> thankfully he went in the house and took his own life. >> deputy, i didn't know that your kids were in that school right there and that they were hearing the gunshots you were involved in. that lends a whole nother

element, and you still have nightmares about this incident. i want to ask both of you, because we've been reporting this week about a spike in the murder rate in more than two dozen major cities around the country, and you know, some have speculated there is this so-called ferguson effect, that they see going on whereby police are pulling back, acting less aggressively, being caught on videotape, doing something wrong. officer gutierrez, do you see evidence of that in your daily work life? >> no, i mean, for me, it's police work. i get a call, i see something, ideal with it. it's just my routine day. i don't see any difference. >> deputy tortella. >> i can see where there would be some hesitation there and you just have to count on your instincts and training, and in my situation, you know, i didn't see a gun until, you know, i had

to fire, but in that situation, if, you know, this individual doesn't have a gun and there is two guns in his pockets, and you know, ends up shooting at me and i shoot him, then you have to think about the consequences that you have for yourself and your family. so i can see where there could be hesitation, but you've got to hope that your training and instinct kicks in and that's where i give the credit to, the guys that train me. >> well, you two did not hesitate. obviously, just the line of fire, and we appreciate you. we're so happy you were honored as hero. thank you for your service. >> thank you. >> thanks for your time. we're following a lot of news this morning, including the gop in crisis mode. let's get to it. >> are you considering running? >> no, i'm not going to do that. >> the hurdles are too great. >> this is something that is extremely undesirable to me. >> i want to bring jobs back to our country. i want to make our country go again.

>> his answer is i'm going create them, but i'm not telling you what it is i'm going to do. >> we have now won 19 state primaries and caucuses. >> i will stand up for you. let's go make the future we deserve to have! >> kids who are transgender are vulnerable. >> the hb 2 law has put them in the spotlight. and that is unfair. >> there is a strong desire on the part of some politicians to try to score cheap political points. >>announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. it is 8:00 in the east. we begin with the ongoing battle within the republican party over their presumptive nominee. some in congress, still in crisis offer donald trump as their standard bearer, and some conservatives pushing for a third party run, but having a hard time finding someone

willing to take on the task. bth pushing back against "the new york times" and considering a lawsuit. his attorney joins us in a moment. democratic side, you have sanders and clinton still duking it out. today is a pivotal primary day. you got kentucky and oregon. hillary clinton is hoping to make gains, hoping to hold off the momentum of sanders. we have the primary and the politics involving all of this election, covered the way only cnn can. here is phil mattingly, let's start with him. >> as you mentioned, today a primary day and within the trump campaign, primary days are a little different now. he is the presumptive nominee, but still, no shortage of urgency inside the campaign. the reality is there facing a general election fight. donald trump pushing back hard on negative reports and overall republicans trying to figure out what it actually means that donald trump is their nominee. >> donald trump, changing his

tone from bombastic. >> i went to the wharton school of finance. i was a great student. a built a fortune. >> to everyday america. >> i view myself as a person, and that like everybody else is fighting for survival. that's all i view myself as. i really view myself now as somewhat of a messenger. >> as the anti-trump movement is struggling to find a figure head, unable to entice a candidate to join the fray with a third party run. >> a third party candidacy would be viewed as a silly thing. i don't think it's appropriate. >> john kasich, the ohio governor and former presidential candidate, telling cnn he won't take the plunge. >> i gave it my best where i am. and i just think running third party doesn't feel right. i think it's not constructive. >> billionaire mark cuban, also contacted about a possible run, also in the no column. >> it's impossible for it to work. not enough time to get on the ballot. hurdles are too great. i passed.

>> conservatives like eric erickson and bill kristol, a very real effort with a small window to get it off the ground. they need a candidate. donor commitments, and a legal pathway. one that includes tens of thousands of signatures, just to qualify for ballot access. all as deadlines loom or in the case of texas, have already passed. meanwhile, trump is battling with the new york times via twitter over their front page article about his inappropriate article about his inappropriate behavior with women. trump's attorney leaving the door open to filing suit. >> it is a possibility. >> the "times" standing by their story. >> how does he interact with the nufs with someone who he is dating or trying to date. that was the purpose of our story. >> and chris, donald trump not necessarily going the traditional route. typically, candidates want negative stories off the front page, out of the headlines as quickly as possible.

but trump, making clear over the last 48 hours that this is a fight that he is willing to have. this is a fight that he wants to have. now, how that plays out in the days ahead, that will be the big question. >> phil, that's because the rules tend to change when politicians feel the pieces are unfair or untrue. donald trump seems to feel both of those things are the case when it comes to the new york times. let's discuss this morning with executive vice-president for the trump organization, and special counsel to donald trump himself, mr. michael cohen. counsel, always good to have you. >> the same. >> donald trump says "the new york times" put out a hit piece. the proof is that one of the main interviews in the piece starts off the piece the woman, former girlfriend of donald trump, says the times took me out of context, twisted my words, gave them different meaning. what do you think that means about the piece overall? >> there is an absolute total falls the trump and clinton

campaign. everything you see in the media for the last week is all about donald trump, whether it's his taxes, whether it's "the new york times" article, whether it's anything else that's related, you know, to donald trump. but yet you don't hear anything negative right now in regard to the clintons. so for example, a story that i saw that came out, $2 million, disappeared from the clinton foundation, paid for one of bill clinton's alleged ex-girlfriends. where is the story on that. we're talking about people, who are looking to run for the presidency of the united states of america. it should be fair and unbiased. so as a segue into the new york times article, be fair. be honest. be the journalists you're supposed to be. be "the new york times." they're acting more like a tabloid than -- >> they say they have 40 interviews in the story, and that the woman said what she

said. brewer said what she said. >> she says that's not what she said. that's not the context that she said it in. >> the times could put out the transcript. >> they could. but -- >> even it got taken out of context, you still have dozens of other women that led us to the same conclusion as readers, which he said a lot of things that -- >> the conclusion was predetermined by "the new york times" before they actually even started writing the piece. >> how do you know? >> because all the people that they tried to speak to that said nothing but positive things about mr. trump. mr. trump is not a sexist. he is not a misogynist. i've walked shoulder to shoulder for a decade with him. i've never seen him behave any way that is described about mr. trump in this new york times article, all right. i just have never, ever seen it. >> when you look at the stuff seen by the super pacs are putting on now, we're familiar with mr. trump and what he has said publicly, when you say

things about women like what he says -- >> when he says things about men, right, does that turn around and make him, you know, sexist as well? >> i don't hear him saying is cuomo too big for his suit, does he have a fat ass, yes, maybe he says it behind my back. but you know, when you say that about women, it is seen as offensive and that's why people criticize him for it. >> donald trump treats everybody the same. the fight with rosie o'donnell, he didn't see it as she is a female. somebody who attacked him, and the very first time i came on your show, right after he announced, i told you, donald trump is a counter puncher. if you come at him, he is going to come at you and not stop. which is the same thing that he did with rosie. he did the same thing for example to chuck todd when he would do it. he labeled him a -- >> it is not so much body related and looks related when it is with men. i've never heard him insult a

man's looks. >> that's not true. i'll tell you what. i'll actually find a couple of examples and call you later. >> i don't want know if i want to hear them. the super pac, tweeting this morning, saying the ads are an example of what you're talking about now. what he said, being taken out of context, being wrong. let me play you one of the ads and we'll get your comment. >> you know, you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her, where ever. >> does she have a good body, no. does she have a fat ass, absolutely. >> if ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps i would be dating her. >> i view a woman flat chested to be very hard -- you can tell them to go [ bleeping ] themselves. >> so trump is tweeting this morning this clinton super pac ads taking everything out of context, and you have to know why he was saying those things. the ads misleading. >> well, don't you agree? >> no, because i think certain things on their face are what they are.

sometimes context matters, sometimes it doesn't. >> if you take a snippet, the destination you want, to again, look hillary clinton's biggest problem is she has the lowest in terms of factorability amongst men. she has to stick with the women, right. otherwise, she is going to be blown out of this race. so what is the best thing to do, she is going to turn around and try to create this gender warfare between trump supporters and clinton supporters. >> she can't play it if you don't say it. >> unfortunately for her, it won't work, because women understand, donald trump is not sexist. he is not misogynistic. he doesn't care. he is looking to oh do two things. make make great again and put america first. they want national security. that's all they're looking for. so when it comes down to these sort of super pac ads, attacking mr. trump, it's going to end

upcoming back to bite her. >> why isn't this the price of participation? i'm not saying with clinton and trump, i'm saying with the immediate yeah. one of the things your boss does well is play the victim with the immediate yeah. he uses the media better than anyone else. he has called me the best and worst like five different times in the election cycle. but this is what happens when you run for president. hillary clinton, the enabler stuff that trump is coming out with about her relationship to the different infidelities of her husband, that was vetted for years and years. she has been put into it. >> hillary clinton, chris, hillary clinton called donald trump a sexist. go back to the june, you know, interview that i had with you. he is a counter puncher. you call him a sexist, no, no, no. you are an enabler, right. i am not a sexist. you're living with the sexist. >> but you're saying -- that doesn't mean i'm not a sexist. if i say you're worst than i am, doesn't mean i'm not a sexist. >> of course it doesn't. but he is not. in other words, he treats

everybody exactly the same. when it wasn't fashionable for a woman to be a general contractor in manhattan, real estate, which is historically a male dominated industry, donald trump put the first woman into that position. >> we did that segment on this show. to trump supporters who say we don't accurately reflect, we're the only show who did that. you came in with a big stack of papers, these are all our female employees. >> you looked at it and it -- >> that's right. >> the trump organization didn't hire women because there was a political campaign that was going to be had 30 years later. the trump campaign, the trump organization did it because that's how mr. trump feels. >> what is trump going to do with "the new york times"? he is going to let it lie or is this just the beginning of a process? is there a chance he could actually sue them, very high bar for the press? >> it is a very high bar. i don't think that this is going to end up in litigation.

the truth is, "the new york times" owes both ms. brewer and donald trump an apology, and they need to do a retraction. they need to actually be fair. because they're destroying their paper. >> counsel, thank you for making the case on "new day," as always. alisyn. chris, turning to the democrats, hillary clinton's super pac, set to launch a $6 million ad campaign, focusing on the general election and targeting donald trump. but with oregon and kentucky holding primaries today, clinton first has to beat bernie sanders. let's bring in joe johns. how is it looking today, joe? >> the polls have opened in kentucky. it is raining in parts of the state, which only adds to concerns about turnout there today. both hillary clinton and bernie sanders have spent time in the bluegrass state. but it's the former secretary of state who could use a win to try to make the point that she has got some strength.

particularly, in appelecia. she has done multiple stops in kentucky, using her husband, who has won elections there before, as a selling point, suggesting he'll have a role in steering the economy, if elected. at the same time, she continues to hammer away at donald trump, and overnight, she got a little help from priorities super pac which just rolled out new ads. you saw one a moment ago. let's look at the other one. >> would you cut off funding for planned parenthood? >> yes, i would. >> you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her where ever. >> do you believe in punishment for abortion, yes or no, as a principle? >> the answer is that there has to be some form of punishment. >> for the woman? >> yeah, there has to be some form. >> by the way, donald trump tweeting this morning, calling the ad pathetic. meanwhile, bernie sanders is hoping the oregon primary on the

democratic side with a strong tradition of voting for progressive candidates will give him another big victory today, but sanders continues to set his sights on california and its primary which comes on june 7th. in fact, sanders election night rally this evening is scheduled to occur in los angeles county, back to you. >> california, the last big ticket sanders seeing it all the way through. joe johns, thank you very much. so if you have kentucky and oregon. in oregon, you still have a couple of hours before the primary polls open there. the ballots will be cast. in kentucky, let's get there, cnn's bryn watching it unfold in louisville. how you doing? >> reporter: doing great, chris. thanks. this morning, it has been quite busy at this particular polling location, despite the rain joe was talking about going on united states side. people anxious to get here and cast their ballots. the lines are petty long for this time in the morning, 8:00

morning rush, before they go to work and drop the kids off. 2,500 registered democrats are registered here, and so far, about 150 people have come to cast a ballot. to so pretty good numbers so far. and as we've been hearing all morning, this a state that hillary clinton wants to win. i've been talking to voters, and one woman told me she wasn't sure, was it going to on bernie sanders or hillary. but what she looked at is who can beat donald trump, now that he is the presumptive nominee. she said hillary clinton, and that's why she cast her ballot for her this morning. so there is a lot of sort of maneuvering going in, and mind thinking, and trying to figure out exactly who can go forward when it comes to november. we'll see how it turns out later today. alisyn. thanks so much. breaking moments ago, we have to tell you about a third suicide attack, killing at least seven and wounding 21. another boobie trapped.

total death tolls stands at 21. isis is claiming for one of the attacks thus far. a federal court is ordering a mississippi town to fully desegregate its schools. this is the culmination of a 50 year fight against the justice department. black and white students are largely separated in cleveland, that's mississippi's middle junior and high schools. under the order, the town's two high schools must become one, and students from the junior high and middle school must be combined. no comment yet from the school district. two earlier plans to desegregate were denied by the courts. okay, the primary season is winding down. but thankfully the punch lines keep coming. cue the late night laughs. >> tomorrow is the kentucky democratic primary, and in an ack of desperation, bernie is

going by colnel sanders. >> restaurant in lithuania is stirring up controversy that shows donald trump kissing vladimir putin. trump says he is not mad it shows him kissing a man. it shows him kissing someone 40. >> secretary clinton unveiled her secret weapon to fix the economy. >> my husband who i will put in charge of revitalizing the economy. >> now we know who the arrow has been pointing out. come back, hey. what's up. i still got it. >> i still got it. >> good impersonation busted out there. talking about the race is also fun, but also very strange sometimes, especially the situation that gop where republicans have been slow to warm to their presumptive

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around. joining us now, texas governor, greg abbott, also the author, "broken but unvowed". >> thanks, alisyn. >> but first, let's talk about donald trump. >> sure. >> you're long time ted cruz supporter, so why now, are you getting behind donald trump? >> well, because ted cruz has dropped out of the race. understand where i come from here. that is ted cruz is more than a presidential candidate to me. ted cruz is a friend of mine. when i was the attorney general of texas, ted cruz was my solicitor general. i knew him from behind the scenes. where his convictions were. so i was a ted cruz guy. but after he dropped out, there is a choice. none of the above is not a choice. and i know the devastation that hillary clinton would wreck upon the united states of america, and the necessity of the republicans defeating hillary clinton. >> but what about your

colleagues, many in congress, who say that they're standing on their principles and their conservative values, and they can't get their arms around donald trump because they don't think he reflects those. >> they're standing on their principles and not voting for the republican nominee, that means they are aligning their principles with hillary clinton. which is far more dangerous. we have supreme court openings that need to be filled. we have hillary clinton causing havoc with regard to isis. we have hillary clinton promising to keep our borders open the same way that barack obama did, hillary clinton is not a viable option for the united states of america. >> i want to ask you something about the transgender bathroom law, the directive that has come down from the president, that public schools, the students can use the bathroom of the gender of which they identify. you're fighting this in texas. >> we are for the very same reason i talk about in the book.

the 31 fights outweighs the obama administration and i did so, because barack obama is turn the constitution upside down. by him issuing this directive, it is totally against what congress chose to do. congress is the branch of government in charge of making policy. congress voted on this very issue. congress voted not to add transgender to the civil rights act, or to title 9, and despite that fact, barack obama is acting as a king, acting as a dictator by imposing this as absolutely contrary to what the constitution allows. >> you're talking about the policy. what about the personal? that about the kids who for the first time sort of feel recognized and seen as though -- and maybe they're not oddities and be able to make this choice. do you relate to it on that level am. >> i do. you raise such a critically important point here. the perspective of the average american, they look at the issue

through the lens of the personal perspective. if you a nile lanilate, those a members of the united states congress. the president cannot mow down the constitution just because he em thig empathizes with these. >> you happened what happened to you at 26 years old, you were out for a run and an oak tree collapsed fractures your vertebrae and you are now permanently paralyzed. but not many people realize that. i have interviewed you via satellite and i didn't know that. how have you been able to sort of soldier on and not let people know you're paralyzed.

>> right, obviously i don't know if people can see on the camera or not. i'm sitting in a chair. >> and you came in a wheelchair. >> i always use a wheelchair because i can't walk. i am paralyzed. believe me, it was a difficult time. i was 26 years old. i was athletic my entire life, and suddenly, i would never be able to walk again. you piece your life back together and i learned maybe the most important thing you can learn in life and that is, our lives are not measured by the way the in which we are challenged, instead, they're measured by the way we respond to the challenges we face. your viewers right now almost all of them have challenges in their lives, do not lot those challenges bog down your life. find a pathway forward that you can respond to it in way that you can make your life and your community a better place. >> you say in the book that your life was better after the accident. how is that possible? >> it is so hard to understand, until you go through something like that. but for one, my connection with

god was a whole lot stronger. for another, being able to p persaveer, you can take on any challenge in life. but also the thankfulness, you are just alive. when you realize you could have been dead, but still alive, you realize to live each and everyday in a way that is going to be productive and contribu d contributi contributing. >> the book is "broken but unbowed". thank you. >> thank you. >> post your comments on facebook/new day. >> one word for the governor. strong. we hear about threats and violence all the time at trump rallies, but did you know it is becoming common at hillary clinton rallies. so how will their campaign respond?

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clinton and sanders, watching the vote totals again today as they head to the polls in oregon and kentucky, two different regions of the country, both closed but different politics in play. each is looking to inch closer to the nomination. sanders is trying to literally stay alive in this. but despite the odds, his campaign says they are still in it to win it. here to make the case, bernie sanders manager, jeff weaver. jeff, good to see you. let's start with the immediate and then. >> good morning, chris. >> and talk about bigger themes going on. based on the demographics, it looks like oregon could be a good night for you. kentucky, maybe not so much. how do you see it? >> well, i think kentucky, given it is a closed primary, which means independents can't participate, i think it creates a challenging environment for us, certainly, but the senator has been there a number of times, he has had excellent rallies, people have been enthusiastic, we're doing television advertising there. it will be tougher than oregon, but something we can pull out.

>> oregon is the same, isn't it, in that way? >> well, oregon has a different system. it has all by mail process. so it's just a very different process. >> so let's say things go well for you tonight. you know what the next question is. you know what the inevitable factor is. >> of course. >> sometimes it doesn't just bear repeating. you put up the super delegates, you know the math. the question is that the super delegates, okay, that's been a function for bernie sanders saying this is an odd system, the system seems to be somewhat divorced from the people. but if you look at what's going on within the gop, what do you have? you have the functional equivalent of their super delegates, right, their elected officials and people at the top of the party having trouble getting behind their presumptive nominee. it is compromising them. are you worried about creating that own compromise, the same compromise within the democratic party? >> well, you know, the super delegate system was set up a

long time ago and it certainly is undemocratic in the sense that the folks who are voting, elected officials, members of congress and party leaders, but they have no bearing, you know, no relationship between how they vote and how the people in their state vote. so for instance, a state like washington state, where bernie sanders got 70% of the vote, i don't know that we have a single super delegate supporting bernie sanders from washington state. in that sense, it seems pretty undemocratic and certainly something he'll want to reform going forward. >> they are an indication of where that party is in terms of what they think is best for democrats. is it even on your radar as to whether or not your campaign is helping or hurting hillary clinton? >> well, i would say that we are helping hillary clinton, as a matter of fact. assuming that she is the nominee and i think hillary clinton is helping bernie sanders assuming that he is the nominee. you know, as soon as this democratic primary process is over, we're not going to hear any more talk about the minimum

wage, no more talk about making college affordable or providing health care to everybody. it will be a mud slinging contest. the trump people, the republican party, all their super pacs will engage in character assassination, and that is what it will be focused on. it is unfortunate, but as long as there a democratic process going on, people are talking about issues that are important to americans as a whole. >> does that assume that the senator steps away? what are his plans if he is not the nominee? wouldn't he still sink his teeth into the situation and go after trump as a democratic? >> well, he certainly has said that he will do everything, he'll work seven days a week, night and day, to make sure donald trump is not president. i'm confident he'll do that. bernie sanders as you know is a very effective campaigner on the stump. he has rallied millions of people, independents, working class people, all across the country. i think he'll take the message that donald trump would be a disaster for working class and middle class families in this country, putting republicans back in control of washington is not a good strategy.

>> in terms of the state of play within the campaign, both clinton and sanders have said they want to keep it on policy. the supporters, not so much. the latest allegations are ugly ones, that in nevada, a battle over who gets what delegates, a legit battle to have, but how you battle is also a question. listen to one of the recordings from an alleged sanders supporter. >> it was pretty terrible. probably just guaranteed fires in philadelphia. i'm not a psycho bernie supporter, but there are some out there, but he made a bad decision by completely ignoring the democratic process to me. >> if threatening fires doesn't make you a psycho sanders spoer ter, i don't know what does the campaign say about a guy like that? >> well, look, the senator has been very clear, people who are supporting the senator should act in a civil way. they should obviously fight within the context, and by

fight, i mean contest if there is a convention, they should be there, they should present their case. and then let the votes fall where they may. the situation in nevada is a little different. obviously no context justifies any kinds of threat or violence. but you know, we have been obviously campaigning in nevada for almost a year, because of, you know, it's one of the early states. the state party has a lot of problems. they've run things poorly. it has been done very undemocratically. and and unwillingness on the part of the nevada democratic party to bring in all of the new people that bernie sanders has brought into the process. if you read some of the reports from what went on there, the chair was clearly ignoring votes from the floor at the clark county democratic convention in nevada. they tried to arrest their own credentials chair, because she was being too fair to the sanders people. i mean, it is dysfunctional or worst out there in nevada. it is not a reflection of all

democrats in nevada, but the party hierarchy has a lot of problems there. they didn't have enough chairs for the number of people who were supposed to be. obviously you're trying to exclude people if the room is too small for the anticipated audience. so there is a lot of work to be done. we could have a whole show on the nevada state democratic party. but regardless -- >> you're making the same case that trump seems to be making, the system is set up against sanders, the democrats are against him, and that he should run for a third party. is trump right? >> no, trump is wrong. you know, we have interacted with state parties all across the country. and some are more fair than others. some are, i have to say, some are extremely fair. it just happens in nevada not to be the case. bernie sanders has said he will not run as a third party candidate. ale support the democratic nominee. that's what he'll do. trump obviously would like a third party candidate on the left so he could try to divide the vote and win. but i think what you're going to see is unity to defeat trump. >> thank you very much for

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me at the time. he always did it by publishing something that, you know, he thought would get to me. i just enjoyed returning the favor. i mean, we had correspondence, and he would each time sort of up the anty in the 5-year-old manner he is accustomed to. >> i don't like i have no soul, did he do anything to threaten or go to your publisher or get public momentum against you or anything like that? or was it i just don't like what you wrote. >> he didn't like it. he wasn't running for president then. i didn't see that coming. i don't know if the stakes would have been different then. >> mark, what was your experience after you profiled donald trump? >> you know what, i've had actually very good experience, where he liked some of the things i wrote. >> such as? what did you -- what did he like that you wrote? >> he especially liked when i quoted him about rosie o'donnell, after rosie o'donnell made remarks about him on the

view. he came back in very strong fashion, putting down rosie o'donnell a few years ago, but it turned into a giant feud, and he loved that. he loved that i quoted him accurately. just about how much he hated rosie at the time. and as a result, i mean, the back and forth with him is direct. he'll call you on the phone. it is an open communication back and forth. but there is a threat, if you treat him wrong, however he chooses to interpret that, that he will never talk to you again. you'll be cut off. you'll never hear from him. now he has twitter where you'll slam people relentlessly. >> you don't have to tell us. >> there is always a threat there. >> let me ask you something. did you get the sense that it mattered rosie o'donnell was a woman? that he'll say he is being unfairly criticized for how he treated rosie o'donnell, he was going at an opponent, not a woman. >> you know what, i think there is a long history of him making sort of attacks on women, on

twitter or just in his public statements, whether it's talking about a miss universe or politician. anyone who, especially he thinks who have done him wrong. he will attack men and women alike, right. if he feels that he is attacked, he attacks back twice as hard. that's how he operates. when it comes to women, he has a history of saying things, i'm for getting the name of the actress, he just tweeted out randomly how awful and ugly she looked. just completely unsolicited. no reason for it whatsoever. we asked him about that last summer, i was working with michael on his bio of trump that came out this last year. we asked trump about that, and he didn't see anything wrong with having a random attack on someone's look. she is a public figure, fair game. >> you know, mark singer, this races an interesting paradox that many of us have experienced with trump, which in public, he

is one way shall grabrash, cour private, he can be charming and connected, and seemingly more sensitive. there are two personas. did you experience that, and how do you explain? it sounds like mark, did you mike singer? >> i never experienced direct hostility with him. one of the things that's important to do if you're journalist covering trump is to not have an ego. there is no advantage in thinking that you're going get into some kind of contest with trump. when what i was doing a lot of, observing this guy, i spent a lot of time in his presence and we talked. >> did you think he was different in the one-on-one interactions that you've had with him? >> he was himself. i'm not sure how to describe it. i never saw a real distinction between the public and the private, but again, this is at a time when he wasn't running for

public office. >> as public as he is now. mark, what was your experience with that private versus public? >> yeah, privately, again, i think he has amazingly this really good relationship with a lot of journalists. we'll slam the media and say how all media is dishonest. but then one-on-one, i mean, he is shaking your hand, smiling, friendly. he wants the attention that you're bringing to him. he likes to, you know, do -- tell you things that are big news for him, or that he sees as being something positive. but he always tells you it can't come from him. this should be from a source, this should be -- >> john miller. >> so say this kind of thing. >> yeah, have john miller -- he doesn't use that tactic any more, but it is the same sort of thick. he likes to get his side of the story out there, but not from him, because he doesn't want to seem like he is bragging too much. >> what he said to me was -- >> he manipulates.

>> the expression he used with me was off the record but you can use it. >> but what does make him unique in your estimation? i like reading in the interview notes that the way he responded to your piece in your estimation was a terrific reward for you? why? what makes him unique? >> he doesn't react as an adult. i've always felt as a journalist, any situation, it is really ideal to be underestimated by the subject you're writing about. so trump thinks everybody around him is basically a lesser being, and once you're in that position, when he reacted to me, it was just -- it was like playing with a child. >> but what does that mean? what are the rules of engagement when you're playing with a child? >> i am a just myself. i'm being ironic and humorous. i'm not going to get angry. >> do you think that's different than other power players you've

dealt with? >> i think that he is unique in terms of his need for attention, obviously. and that sort of, i hate to use the word trumps, but that does supersede everything else. every other consideration. >> mark singer, mark desangi, great to get your perspective. the good stuff, next. intellige. ♪ the all-new audi a4, with available virtual cockpit. ♪

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