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hello. i'm wolf blitzer. it's 7:00 p.m. in tripoli. wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks very much for joining us. donald trump and kim jong-un talking nuclear weapons? that's the proposal from the presumptive republican nominee and said he'd be willing to sit down with the erratic leader of
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north korea. it would be a major change in u.s. foreign policy if that were to happen. trump's comments come as he moves closer and closer to securing the republican nomination with a win in the oregon primary last night. he's now just 62 delegates away from officially clinching. he is the presumptive nominee. the democrats are having their own unsettling issues right now. bernie sanders says he won't give in to calls for him to drop out. he's also criticizing the democratic leadership for not backing him with california looming ahead of the race to be expected to be the deciding factor. sanders scored by a healthy margin. but he couldn't knock off hillary clinton in kentucky. for her, it was another southern win with a very, very, very narrow margin of victory. less than 90 delegates away from clinching the nomination. if you add the super delegates and the pledge delegates. while clinton towards winning the democratic nomination,
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simmering tensions within the party are boiling over. rather chaotic state party convention in nevada this past weekend. highlights the anger between some bernie sanders supporters and the so-called democratic party establishment. the nevada state chair has been bombarded with threats. she blames the sanders campaign for inciting supporters at a rally days before the convention. >> one of their high level campaign staff people was ginning the crowd up and talk about let's get rid of the party. let's stop the convention. let's, you know, take over everything. so people were already in that mode before they got to the convention, and when they got to the convention, one of the first things we did was the rules. and they didn't like the outcome and they stormed the stage, basically. and it was pretty much downhill from there.
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>> senior political reporter manu raju joining us from capitol hill right now. manu, how is the convention chaos in nevada and this rift within the democratic party playing out among lawmakers in washington where you are? >> reporter: i can tell you, wolf. i've spent a lot of time talking to democratic and they want bernie sanders to do more to condemn what's happening in nevada and warn his own supporters not to do something similar whether it's at the philadelphia convention in july or in other states as well. they're saying that bernie sanders hasn't done enough. last night, when he addressed 11,000 supporters in southern california, he sort of skirted the issue altogether and called on the democratic party to invite more of his supporters into the fold. and in a statement yesterday, bernie sanders actually did say he does not condone this violence but he went into a lengthy rebuke of how democrats are handling these state by state contests, particularly in nevada. now, yesterday, when i talked to
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harry reid, the senate minority leader, he was very critical. this is what he had to say when i asked him of what he thought of bernie sanders said. he said, bernie should say something, not have some silly statement, he said. bernie is better than that. i'm surprised by his statement. i thought he was going to do something different. i've had a cans hance and democ voice similar concerns including some potentially on hillary clinton's vp list. tim cain, the virginia, i talked to him earlier and said it's the party's fault. cain, that deflection of responsibility is not leadership. bernie is a leader and he needs to condemn it without equivocation and without trying to deflect attention or blame to somebody else. and just spoke with dianne feinstein, a senior democratic
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senator saying it could create bedlam because of what they see on saturday. clearly an opening of sorts for hillary clinton supporters to go after bernie sanders and in his campaign as they see this primary season wind down, wolf. >> tim cain, often seen as a potential vice presidential running mate for hillary clinton, the senator from virginia. manu, thanks very much. the bernie sanders campaign manager had rather tough words for the chair of the democratic national committee. debbie wasserman-schultz accusing him, of quote, throwing shade. in a few minutes, i speak with the dnc chair and talk about those comments and the rift inside the democratic party right now. also today, donald trump meets with one of the most respected elder statesmen when it comes to foreign policy. we're talking about the former secretary of state, henry kissinger. take a look at this. a live picture outside of henry kissinger's office in new york city. the meeting comes on controversial comments from
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trump about potentially meeting with kim jong-un. here's some of what trump had to say in an interview with reuters. >> i would speak to him. i would have no problem speaking to him. at the same time, i would put a lot of pressure on china. because economically, we have tremendous power over china. people don't realize that. i would speak to him. i have no problem with speaking to him. >> cnn global affairs analyst bobby gouch. bobby, it would be a pretty dramatic departure from standard u.s. policy not to speak to kim jong-un unless there's a dramatic change in north korea's policies on nuclear issues or social issues, domestic issues. >> indeed. i mean, presidents across the political divide, republican or democratic have made it very clear that a one on one conversation with kim jong-un or whoever the dictator running
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nuclear arms race. >> at a presidential level to speak with kim jong-un, although there's a dialogue at lower levels between north korean diplomats and u.s. officials. >> there's a lot of small conversations that go on. indirect relations with the chinese being involved because they're the only one that realistically has any pressure, any political pressure on north korea but i would love to be a fly on the wall during the meeting with henry kissinger when the subject of north korea comes up. because if henry kissinger has anything to say, it will probably be don't go around saying you'll have a one on one conversation with henry kissinger. >> remember, he started the dialogue with china that led to a breakthrough in the early '70s. the only american i think who met with kim jong-un is former nba basketball player dennis rod man. any others? >> not at any official capacity. >> and trump seems to suggest
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china, if it wanted to, could ease the price with north korea immediately. it's got that much influence over north korea. is he right? >> china has more influence than any other country. that's certainly true. but china has to. the only reason it has the influence sit pl influence is it keeps north korea penned in without putting too much pressure. so beijing has come under over the years, every time north korea goes off and does something, shoots from the hip. the word does but puts back saying let us deal with north korea the way we know how. we won't respond to international pressures. we'll deal the way we've always done which is quiet. >> donald trump and david cameron, the british prime minister who thinks trump's proposal for a temporary ban on muslims coming to the united states is stupid and wrong and trump in an interview said,
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well, he wouldn't necessarily have a good relationship with david cameron. potentially, these guys, assuming if trump is elected president of the united states, they would develop a relationship. i assume. >> they would have to. this is northea this is the most, arguably with any country in the world. it's a special relationship, but it's a cliche because it happens to be true. this has been true for decades. the idea that an american president and a british president wouldn't be on talking terms is unthinkable, especially at this moment where the world faces crises. nato is facing crises across the world dealing with putin in the ukraine and isis and with assad and syria. then you have the problems with the european union and the prospect of britain leaving the eu and the crisis that would result in economic united states and the idea the u.s. president and the british prime minister can't speak to each other and have a quick conversation or be
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friendly towards each other. there are implications for the whole world. >> i suspect they would patch that up if it were to happen very quickly. thank you very much. donald trump is again touting his personal wealth while taking a shot at bernie sanders and got a new deal to pay him back for self-funding of his campaign. joining us now, cnn politics executive editor mark preston and cnn correspondent phil mattingly. i want to talk about the statement from donald trump saying he'd be willing to meet with kim jong-un. how is this going to play with members of his own republican party. >> we're hearing right now from those on the side of the republican party that are critical of donald trump. not only that he is willing to meet with the north korean leader but just as you were just discussing there that he is in a war of words with the united states greatest ally in great britain. so a lot of people are wondering, does donald trump really have a firm grasp on foreign policy and quite frankly
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making this overture to the north korea leader, is he softening the u.s. stance on how we address that nation and how we address their nuclear program? >> phil, trump released this disclosure statement as required to the federal election commission and in a statement, the trump campaign said this. mr. trump's income in excess of $557 million. mr. trump's net worth increase since the last statement was found in july of 2015. as of this date, mr. trump's net worth is in excess of $10 billion. obviously, very impressive numbers, but he's still not dealing with releasing his own income tax returns and not going to do so until the routine audit by the irs is cleomplete and no idea when that's completed. >> i think the interesting thing is releasing the disclosure forms, it was required. while he did that, met his requirement but what t forms show is not a full picture.
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they certainly lay out in detail a lot of donald trump's investments, a lot of money he's made. but they are primarily in broad ranges. for example, the real estate portfolio in the same statement, wolf, donald trump called one of the greatest in the world is only valued at over $50 million. we know it's far more than that but it's the type of broad range these documents lay out here. there's a lot of lee way they have here. what the tax returns show is a much more specific range. a much more kind of targeted approach to the numbers of where donald trump sits both on his wealth and also his investments and his charitable givings. i think that's why this is an issue on the tax returns that isn't going to go away and worth noeti noting, hillary clinton is not going to let it go away. hillary clinton continues to hit him on it in the campaign trail. while the disclosures were filed as they were supposed to be, until the routine audit is over, donald trump will not release his tax returns and will
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continue to face criticism for that. >> he's going to continue to hit her for not releasing transcripts of her paid speeches before wall street firms. stand by for a moment. manu raju just spoke to democratic senator dianne feinstein about democratic party leaders who say he should speak to supporters about the chaos that erupted at the democratic party convention. listen to what dianne feinstein just said. >> we could by the statement in nevada. >> i was. because i think that was the time to have sent a full throated message to his followers that he don't do this kind of thing and this kind of thing is ant thet cal to the process set out. if we don't like the process, we should work to change it. >> how much does it worry he wants to take it to the convention in july? >> it worries me a great deal. i don't want to go back to the
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68th convention. because i worry about what it does to the electorate as a whole. and he should too. >> the '68 convention. a lot of rioting going on. bernie sanders campaign manager now making this comment about the democratic national committee's chair, debbie wasserman-schultz, and how she is treated. >> debbie, we could have a long conversation just about debbie wasserman-schultz and been throwing shade on the campaign since the beginning. >> i'll ask the chair, debbie wasserman-schultz, about those issues and she's standing by to join me live. plus, america's quiet war on isis. our first look at the u.s. spy plane set out to survey a rather dangerous stronghold pretty close to europe. go to ziprecruiter.com and post your job
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listen to this. >> i think he should acknowledge that there were death threats to me. that there was death threats to my husband. that there was death threats to my 5-year-old grandson. they called my work and tried to ruin. like i said, this is my volunteer job being chair. i have a full-time job where single mothers and people trying to pay off their school loans work and it hurt our business. people called our business so much, they had to unplug the phone. i think they owe apologies to me and then i can give it to the owner of the business. i think those kinds of apologies need to happen and i think they need to recognize that this is not laughable. these are threats to people's lives that are very serious. >> democratic senator barbara boxer of california was there and actually booed at that convention by the crowd in nevada. this is what she said earlier on
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cnn. >> there was no way to control what was happening. and i did fear for my safety. i did call bernie a couple of times and he did phone me back last night. and he was very distressed about it. and it was a very warm conversation. and i told him, he expressed shock that his people would do it. i did tell him the vast majority of those bernie supporters were sitting in the chairs. there were fine. but there was a group of 50 to 100 people. they were not young people. they were older people and he ought to check out to see who these people are and he said he would. >> the convention chaos highlights some infighting within the democratic party. the bernie sanders campaign condemned the violence at the nevada convention on saturday but staff accused of shutting out his supporters. so how does all of this affect efforts to unite the democratic party and take on donald trump?
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debbie wasserman-schultz the chair of the democratic national committee joining us from capitol hill right now. congresswoman, a lot of people expected. people in disarray headed towards the contested convention that could potentially have e ripted some violence but now looks like there's serious fear that could happen. there could be some violence at the democratic convention in philadelphia. does that worry you? >> no. no. and really, everybody needs to take a step back and a deep breath. this was absolutely a serious concern which is why i said what needed to be said yesterday and others have said there was real concern, but it is important and i'm confident that the candidates take the messages to heart about making sure that we respond and conduct ourselves in a civil and orderly way. i'm confident that they will and we have a job to do. at the dnc, we continue to manage what remains of this primary nominating contest and
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prepare for the general election and i actually am really confident and have been despite the concerns from this weekend that we are going to go into this general election united because there is a very clear consensus, agreement between our candidates, one, on the issues that matter, so we can build on the success that we've had under president obama, and two, as importantly, if not more importantly that we defeat donald trump and don't let he and the extremist republican party drag us backwards and we're going to be united on that and have a process that will go through whenever we have a presumptive nominee to work together as we always do and we will come together, lock arms and make sure that everybody feels included and that we can get this done. >> bernie sanders' campaign manager jeff weaver today, this morning, he took direct aim at you. he defended senator sanders' response to the chaos in nevada. i want you to listen to what he said today on cnn's "new day." >> after a conversation with
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senator reid, he brought a statement after the convention happened. he categorically condemns any kind of threats that went on. absolutely unacceptable. debbie wasserman-schultz, we could have a long conversation just about debbie wasserman-schultz and how she's throwing shade on the sanders campaign since the beginning whether it was the debate schedule that were few and far between when no one is watching, whether they shut off the sanders access to his own data and sue them in federal court to get it back and whether it was the joint fund raising agreements with the hillary clinton campaign taking money away and sending it to the dnc and look, it's not, i got to say, it's not the dnc. by and large, people in the dnc have been very good to us. debbie wasserman-schultz is really the exception. >> what's your response to that? he accuses you of throwing shade at the bernie sanders campaign. you're the exception, he says. >> yeah. my response to that is #smh.
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if we're going to talk about that comment about throwing shade. we need to focus on one thing. get through this primary and work to prepare for the general election and make sure we can continue to draw the contrast between either one of our really fine candidates who are focused on helping people reach the middle class and make sure we get equal pay for equal work and not let the republicans take health care away from 20 million americans. do everything we can to make sure donald trump never becomes president of the united states. that's what i'm singularly focused on. it's why president obama asked me to take on a four year term after we reelected in 2012 and singularly focused on that and not letting any of this other malarkeys distract me from that and as i told you before, wolf, being the national party chair is a bumpy ride. you're going to get bumped and bruised. if i have to absorb some of these body blows in order for
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the candidates to stay above the fray and for my colleagues on the ground in the state parties to keep their head down and get the job done, so be it. >> you did say that bernie sanders did not go far enough in condemning the violence at the nevada democratic party convention but you also have not directly spoken to him about that. i understand you haven't spoken to him in months. is that right? >> no. i spoke to senator sanders about ten days ago. that is completely not right. >> how did that conversation go? >> the conversation went, you know, just fine. we talked about the platform committee and the process that we were going through. but i'm not going to characterize conversations that i have between each of the candidates. we have have stay focused and i'm going to stay focused on preparing for the general election and getting us through this primary and i understand that there are people that would like to fan the flames and, you know, distract from our task at hand. that plays right into the republican's hands.
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we're going to be united and we're going to come together and i'm very confident about that and this stuff is a whole lot of noise that we cannot allow to distract us. what happens, i said what needed to be said as did many others and now we need to move forward. >> is it time for another phone conversation with senator sanders at this sensitive moment? >> you know, i don't think i need to have another conversation with senator sanders at this moment. i think i need to focus on moving us forward. making sure we can prepare for the general election and making sure i can manage this primary effectively. there are numerous colleagues. barbara boxer. leader reid both spoke with him. there's no reason for me to pile on. we've all made the point, i think, senator and his campaign will take these points to hard and i expect and am confident that going forward, these are issues that we put behind us. >> we just got a statement from
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michael briggs, the bernie sanders campaign spokesman referring to hillary clinton's very narrow victory in kentucky and presidential primary last night. he said the sanders campaign has not, i repeat, not made a decision about whether to ask f for a recount in kentucky. they're still looking into it. do you have any reason to believe there should be a recount given? how close that race was? >> not to my knowledge but that's a conversation and a question of the secretary of state, allison grimes in kentucky. those decisions are made by state election officials and certainly to pursue a recount or not would be made by the individual campaign and their candidate. >> you can see the numbers, how close it was on a more than 420,000 votes cast. she's ahead by 1,923 votes. very, very close margin. let's talk about a road ahead in the primaries. listen to what senator sanders
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told his supporters at a rally in california which holds its contest june 7th after his win last night in oregon. >> many of the pundits and politicians, they say, bernie sanders should drop out. [ crowd boos ] >> the people of california should not have a right to determine who the next president will be. [ crowd boos ] >> let me be as clear as i can be. i agree with you. we are in to the last ballot is cast. >> how do you see this situation playing out? >> i see it playing out the way it has continued to play out. i agree. bernie sanders should stay in this race. it's what i've said all along. until the last vote is counted. his opponent, hillary clinton said that. and it's important that
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everybody has an opportunity to cast a ballot. this primary, you've seen through exit polls in a number of the recent primaries, wolf, has actually energized our supporters, they're coming out and talking about how both candidates have made them more excited and looking forward to getting involved in the campaign and supporting whoever our nominee is in the general election. i think this has been absolutely positive for our party. and it's been something that's allowed us to organize and mobilize around the issues that are important to americans who are going to decide who the next president of the united states will be. and they're going to decide who the next president of the united states will be based on who they believe has their back. who they believe is going to stand up for them and is going to make sure that they have the corner stones of a middle class life. not drag them backwards to policies like donald trump would and plunged us into the worst economic crisis we had since the great depression and didn't understand foreign policy whatsoever and now picking a fight with david cameron who is the leader of one of our most
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significant allies in the world. i mean, this man has no judgment, and there's a reason. he proves every single day why he is the most unpopular presidential candidate in history and why he has no bi business running for president and not should be elected to president but to anything. >> debbie wasserman-schultz, thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. tomorrow, chris cuomo will interview hillary clinton live tomorrow here around 1:30 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. coming up, the white house now responding to the divide inside the democratic party. we have new information. that's coming up next. ♪ you're not gonna watch it! ♪
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moments ago, we heard from the white house on the growing anger and division inside the democratic party. here's how the white house press secretary josh ernest addressed the controversy. >> i feel confident, although i did not specifically do this myself that if you were to google news coverage from may 18th, 2008, the tenor of the coverage would be quite similar to the tenor of the coverage today. there would be all kinds of hand ringing among party activists about whether the party would come together after a divisive primary between senator obama and senator clinton. there would be pundits with decades of electoral experience,
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posing difficult questions about whether or not it is even possible, given the passion of clinton supporters, for even somebody with all the skills of president, senator obama to unite the democratic party. there would be republicans salivating at the prospect of a divided democratic party limping into a general election giving an advantage to the republican nominee. i guess the point is that we've seen a lot of this before. and that's not to diminish anybody's candidacy. it's not to diminish the passion and commitment of supporters for either candidate. but it is an indication that the democratic party, in a general election, will be focused on a different question.
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in libya, especially adapted spy plane. part of a growing effort by u.s. intelligence agencies to learn as much as they can about isis in what many consider to be its most dangerous stronghold so close to europe. >> buried in the rock of the remote sicilyan. chatter from above the failed state, a tenth of whose line isis now control. and down here is where it matters. along isolated road between the libyan city of mezrata and the isis stronghold of sert. this day is all bad news. isis is using a suicide bomber to help advance yet. fighters tell us that americans
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are also on the ground here. along this road, we see reinforcements pour down here and they look like armored suvs containing western looking soldiers. they're never aborvous about wh see. later revealed a dozen troops operate out of a nearby asir bae and wouldn't give details. this man saying he managed to save his family as isis moved into their hometown. this was the scene they left behind. these chaoticmilitia is all that stands between the biggest cities. isis sent another suicide bomber in an armored car.
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turned mesrata in a state of emergency flooding casualties. scenes they thought they'd seen the last of once they defeated gaddafi back again. over 100 injured and nine dead. on a scale the hospital can barely cope with. relatives kept out can only peer through the glass of the news. the most severely wounded brought out in a steady stream unlike anything the city is used to along with that sense of isis never really having been so close or so threatening. funerals now too common, they say. this, killed in the first of two suicide bombings, leaving his wife pregnant with their third child. martyr is the friend of god,
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they chant. after five years of war, it barely jars other routines. america is now here as it can be and isis winning. the wait for outside help measured in sums lost. it couldn't be much more urgent, wolf, that fight for libya. john kerry is saying they will arm if they request a government. but this goes to the heart of the chaos in the country. there are three different groups who claim they have the right to rule libya right now. john kerry has one particular group in mind. they're the latest to arrive on the scene but the political confusion and chaos that let isis get a grip in the first place and that grip is growing, wolf. >> nick paton walsh, thank you so much for that excellent,
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a battle is brewing up on capitol hill right now over funding to take on the zika virus in the united states. the centers for disease control and prevention says there are now at least 503 cases of zika in 45 states, all contracted during travel outside the united states. with me now is senator bill nelson of florida. senator, thanks very much for joining us. i know you and your republican colleague senator marco rubio in a bipartisan effort, you've been trying to push for what, nearly $2 billion requested by the white house to fund this zika crisis right now. the senate only approved about half that amount. can you live with that? >> well, you can live with whatever you can get because this is a real crisis. another three of those cases occurred yesterday in florida. that brings florida to 116, but we're looking at the possibility of our american citizens in
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puerto rico having 20% of that entire island infected with the zika virus. >> how do you prevent that from happening in florida where the climate obviously is not all that different than it is in puerto rico, central america or south america, for that matter, where the problem is obviously more hue? >> right now until you get a vaccine. that will take a couple of years, until you get through all of the intricacies of genetic alteration and wipe out that strain of the mosquito, the egypti. the only thing you can do is mosquito control, so, wolf, can you imagine being a pregnant woman this summer in the southern united states if your county does not have the funds for mosquito control? you're going to be petrified the entire summer. >> so should pregnant women stay away from florida? >> pregnant women should be in
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an area where they are taking all the precautions of mosquito control, and that's what makes it so problematic in a place like puerto rico where already they are in a financial crisis. part of this money is to send money in for mosquito control and medicaid, but it's to send that additional federal money to help the local governments do what they have run out of money. >> i know, you know, florida relies a lot on tourism. how worried are you given the revenue that you generate from tourism? how worried are you that maybe tourists will stop coming to florida until this problem is resolved? >> of course that's a concern, but the long-term problem, wolf, is we know now that especially in the first trimester of pregnancy, if a woman has the
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zika virus, then there is likely to be some problem in deformity with her baby. we just saw the first case of encephaloly in puerto rico. it was through a miscarriage, but that is what is the horrendous tragedy to a family involved, and it's certainly going to be a huge cost to society to take care of these babies, and so you see the enormity of the problem. and for these guys to stick their heads in the stand and say like the house has done, only $622 million and part that have is going to come from the ebola fund and so forth. i mean, they are just not facing the rough, rough music that we have to face. >> senator bill nelson of florida, good luck. thanks very much for joining us. >> thanks, wolf. there's breaking news that we're getting right now. we're getting brand new details
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about the rescue of a young girl kidnapped two years ago by the terrorist organization boko haram, one of 200 other girls that were kidnapped. let's get right to our international correspondent david mckenzie joining us from johannesburg. what are you learning, david? >> reporter: well, what we're learning right now is new details from the nigerian military, wolf, which are saying that in a joint operation, vigilante group and the nigerian military managed to rescue this girl. they are call her amina and they say she was one of the chibok girls, one of the more than 200 girls that were taken by isis-affiliated boko haram more than two years ago in northeast nigeria. many of the parents have been campaigning. there was a global campaign, including the first lady, michelle obama to bring those girls back. now the first one of them, all that time later, seems to have been rescued. wolf? >> what is this girl saying about her classmates who were also abducted? are they still alive?
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>> reporter: what she's saying is very heartening to the parents of other girls who were taken, wolf. she's saying many of them, if not most of the girls, are still alive in the sambisa forest, the stronghold of the boko haram. now she says most of them are alive. six might have been killed, not divulging why or how they were killed, but in our own reporting of kidnapped girls that have been released or escaped, there is a sense that boko haram is doubling down, protecting or at least guarding these girls and women to storm nigerian militaries and other militaries from pushing in because, of course, a hostage situation like this is extremely difficult to solve. wolf? >> and very quickly, is boko haram getting stronger or weaker now? >> most people say they are getting weaker. they are being squeezed by the regional forces, wolf, depending
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on asymmetrical attacks like suicide bombings, but the fight is certainly not over. wolf? >> david mckenzy in johannesburg, thanks very much for that. that's it for me. i'll be back at 5 p.m. eastern in the "the situation room." the news continues right after this quick break. beck ] hmmmmm... hmmmmm... the turbocharged dream machine. the volkswagen golf gti. part of the award-winning golf family.
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