tools? >> someone left their tags behind. >> a couple tags inside of there, yeah. >> i just want to be clear, that graffiti is not 1938 graffiti? >> no, that's not 1938. >> i didn't want on this episode of "the united shades of america", we're talking about the police. >> woo. >> one person, everybody else is nervous. [ applause ] >> it's weird, i think it's a weird thing to say out loud, but i've never been arrested. i think it's a weird, humble bringing thing to say. but if i say it out loud, i'm suddenly running for the nomination of the gop black guy. i've never been arrested, not like those other ones, yay, herman cain, yay! i've also never heard a rap song. oh, you're perfect. i've never had sweet potato pie. it gets better and better.

>> my name is w. kamau bell, as comedian, i've made a living finding humor in the parts of america i don't understand. and now i'm challenging myself to dig deeper. i'm on a mission to reach out and experience the cultures that add color to crazy country. this is "the united shades of america." it seems like every time you turn on the news, you can see conflict between communities of color and the police. and this is causing many people to wonder, what has happened? well, i'll tell you, nothing has happened, other than technology making it easier to document what has been going on for centuries. it started when the first puritan got off the may flower, and he told the first indian to keep it moving or he was going to get a ticket for loitering. and now thanks to the internet, communities of color are banding together to figure out ways to organize and let the cops know, we're not going to take it. because a white guy who kills

nine people gets arrested like this. and a black guy who sells loose cigarettes get arrested like this. so this week, i'm headed to one of the cities most often cited when the subject turns to policing. camden, new jersey. but before i go there, i'm going to talk to the people in philadelphia to ask what they think about the way we're being policed. and i could start with this guy or this guy or even this guy. but then you'd accuse me of being biased. so i think i'll start with these nice young women here. we're talking to people about policing in america. so how do you feel about the police? >> i think the police are usually there to protect you. >> they've always been there to support us. >> if something bad happens you feel like you can call the police and they'll show up and take care of you. >> yeah. >> that's great. can i ask another question? >> yes. >> what's that like? do you have black friends?

>> hey, sasha. >> do any of your black friends come to you and say i'm worried about the police? i'm afraid of the police? >> i understand as a white male i'll never be in the same shoes as an african-american who simply gets looked at a different way. and i understand that, that that is just so sad, it's a sad truth. >> we grew up in a white suburban neighborhood. so i can see how people in an urban environment might think differently. >> oh, bring it in, bring it in. do you understand that is a big thing. white people have that conversation with other white people, then the world changes. >> right. >> this is my black friend! oh, my god. >> did you see what the whole crowd did? >> it was a spike lee movie. >> this is great, oh, my god. >> can you confirm you're his black friend?

>> yes. >> i'm in, baby. >> he's turning redder than he is. >> yes. >> [ bleep ]. >> if things get bad you feel like you can call the cops? >> i feel like i can. if you go five blocks that way you're going to get a completely different perspective. >> actually, i didn't have to walk anywhere. >> do you feel like when the [ bleep ] hits the fan you can call the cops? >> no, because they'll say get your hands out your pocket. i just called you for help. >> have you had experience with the police that were not awesome, that were not five-star yelp reviews? >> i don't have enough fingers, man. >> talk about the national crisis america is in right now, where many communities, i would say communities of color, feel like we're not being policed appropriately. >> i think they have to go back to the basics. this is the community you protect and serve. >> yes, back to the basics. i hear people talk about those

basics, when cops rescued cats out of trees and told little bud to go home and do his homework, but those basics weren't in any neighborhood i grew up in, and i can't imagine that happening in any of the neighborhoods in the front line of this conflict today. but according to the national news, they're doing it exactly that way here in camden. they're trying to make the call for community policing, where police walk the beat and get to know the citizens personally, instead of just showing up when bad things happen. the camden police department thinks this can work. and they're getting so much good press that even president obama showed up to check it out. >> i've come here to camden to hold you up as a symbol of promise for the nation. [ applause ] >> do i think it can work? i have no idea. but i'm going to spend a week with the camden city police department and hopefully find out.

>> every day you put on this uniform, you bridge the gap between law enforcement and the civilian population. >> sergeant ralph thornton is one of the people responsible for carrying out this community policing agenda. he's also one of those black people that you can't exactly tell how old he is. 25? 45? 120? >> i like to tell my cops, when you go to work, that particular area is your castle. you're the knight of that area. when enemies are at your gate, you protect it. >> the thing that comes up to me is i feel like some police feel like it is their area, but they own the area, know what i'm saying? i'm not the knight, i'm the king. >> i do understand that. i use the word castle. but our officers are only as good as the rapport they have with the people in the area. >> brushing aside the fact that his analogy means that we go back to medieval times, the way for me to learn how they do it here is to see it up close.

>> officer jeffries. very good officer, you're in good hands. >> i appreciate that. thouk thank you for putting me in good hands. this is my first time ever in a police car, in any capacity. >> good, good. >> i'm going where no other civilian black man has ever gone before, to the front seat of a police car. mama, i made it. >> camden has a reputation of being a rough area. this is the district you patrol? >> this is the district i patrol. this street right here is very heavily trafficked for drug activity. >> this seems like a pretty, i would say frothy area, there's, it's clearly a city that is having some urban blight, and there are a lot of buildings that are empty, people used to live in there and do business there and those businesses have left. what surprises you most about the job? >> to hear what camden once was, this is where you wanted to go. you wanted to go to vacation in

camden. >> yep, camden was once a a vacation and shopping destination for tourists and locals alike. in the 1950s, business was booming. jobs were aplenty. and camden also got culture. it was the home of walt whitman and where lafayette hubbard said, i think i'll call it scientology. but late in the 1960s, economic conditions caused many businesses to leave. and what often happens in these situations, no jobs leads to poverty. poverty leads to drugs, and in 2012, camden was named the most dangerous city in the u.s. congrats? and it's only ten miles wide with a population of just 76,000 people, which means most likely everyone in the city has been touched by crime. you know what those crosses represent? >> 2012 was the worst year for camden. all the homicides and murders, a

cross for every victim. >> a lot of crosses. >> yeah, it was a very, very violent year. >> officer jeffries is going to take me to the most notorious corner in the city. this is clearly a very active corner. how safe do you feel walking around camden? >> there's some places that depending on the call, late at night when the visibility's bad, i wouldn't necessarily want to walk by myself. >> and one of us just got the finger. >> yeah. >> how does it feel knowing that just happened? >> not everyone's going to be happy with you. just like everything else in life, not everybody's going to be happy with what you're doing. >> could be he's not a fan of my comedy. i'm not going to put it all on you. >> officer jefferies seems a little stiff to me. i think i'm going to have to help him out with this whole community policing thing. >> so can you talk to us for a few minutes? >> yes. >> you can leave whenever you want to. officer jeffries.

>> how are you doing, officer? >> do you live in camden? >> yes, i do, all my life. >> have you seen the city change in your lifetime? >> it's getting a little better. got a lot of work to do. >> how much work do they have to do? >> get these people off the corner, people park in front of my house using drugs all the time. i called the police last week. >> did they respond quickly enough? >> no, they did not respond. >> that's the camden police? >> that's his people. >> yeah, y'all didn't respond fast enough. i stopped a car and told them where the car was. >> in the morning or afternoon? >> it was broad daylight, and i did let them know. >> why do you think that happens? >> it depends on the time of day, however many officers are present, the priority of the call. that could have went out at the same time as a high priority call. >> she doesn't understand the

priorities. like there's a gunshot over here. >> you all can make it better. all you have to do is be on top. >> you don't have to get a relationship with people, but speaking to them, everything's okay, you know? instead of saying shut up, i'm in control. >> i hear you. it's not they taught to punish you. >> i agree with him. we always want to use, if it came down to the amount of force, but that's needed, nothing more. >> the media often does a serious disservice to communities of color by acting as if citizens in these neighborhoods don't want to be policed. but it's just the opposite. we want cops in our neighborhood. we just want the good ones. with my moderate to severe ulcerative colitis,

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i have a thing, that natural fear of police that i think black people have instilled in them, same way i have a natural fear of mountain lions, you know what i mean? it's just that i don't have to call a mountain lion if i'm in trouble. i do have to call a cop, but it's weird, yeah, there's a bad thing happening at my house, could you send a wild mountain lion over to my house to see if it can help? i know it sounds crazy. that's how i feel about calling the cops. i'm in camden, new jersey, hanging out with cops to see if a comedian can solve the country's police brutality problem or something like that. and i'm here to talk to camden police chief scott thompson,

who's been in charge since 2008, and is the man responsible for implementing all the new changes in the force. >> where are we? it feels like i'm in the bat cave. >> this is the central nervous system for operation. it's our real time tactical operation intelligence center. the ideology is to prevent crime from happening in the first place. >> you must be watching the officers, too. if you can see everybody in camden, you can see your police force. is that helpful, too? >> absolutely. that's one of the biggest problems we have right now is the issue of trust and legitimacy. >> i know as a black man in america, i know many people in america and some of the cops, i'm perceived as future criminal. it feels that police have to help change that perception. >> the burden is on us. not to sit back and keep what we're doing and expect the public to change on its own. here's what we can't deny. we all have biases, and there are implicit biases that end

up shaping our action. it's recognizing it, learning how to deal wit and processing it in a way to ensure equity is being exuded. >> i think it's totally awesome that you, as a leader of this police force, are dealing with perception that cops have in this country, you're not pretending it doesn't exist. >> we're starting to see a lot of bad behavior of police officers. the video out of north charleston sickened me. it's our responsibility to fix. that starts by us fixing our own. that is not something you learn in a classroom. the only way the citizens are going to trust an officer, they have to have human contact with an officer, and it can't be only when that person calls 911 and says i have a problem. >> and that's the key to community policing, which is something that isn't new to camden. up until recently, if you wanted to join the camden police force then you actually had to live in camden.

but in 2011, the mayor decimated the police force because of a lack of funding, and crime spiked exponentially, then the city filed a waiver, to let people join the police force whether they lived in camden or not, which may not sound like a big deal, but the question is, can you engage in community policing if you aren't actually a member of the community? to find out, i'm meeting up with keltie francis, president of the camden chapter of the naacp. from what i heard, there was a point in which the cops in camden lost connection with the communities. >> what the biggest problem is most of the police officers are not a part of the community that they serve. they don't live there. they come in as an army of occupation. >> and why do you think it's so important to have police officers who are from the community? >> first of all, you get to know the residents. you know who's who.

you know the difference between a drug dealer and an honor student. i know the difference. i've been here 65 years. guys who don't live in the community don't know that. they work their shifts or whatever, and they go back to their communities for their 16 hours, but i'm not getting anything in return from them. >> they're not owning a home here, renting a home, buying groceries. >> they're not sharing our tax burden. they're our burden, they're taking our tax dollars but not returning anything. that's not community policing. it's all about appearances or show. >> you say to have true community policing you need to be from the community. >> exactly. that's what i grew up with. the cops were our neighbors. we went to school with their children, we went to churches with them. they were our mentors, role models. >> not just a police officer. >> yeah, absolutely. today the only thing we see is a blue uniform. >> that absolutely makes sense.

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i don't need to hear the "not all cops" thing. [ applause ] i get it, not all cops, but some jobs, you have to hold that job up to a higher standard. you know what i'm saying? it doesn't matter that it's not all cops. it's enough cops. you have to have like a 100% success rate, if one person screws it up, it sort of ruins the whole thing. some jobs you hold to a higher standard, like priests, cops, baristas. school teachers. you know what i'm saying? don't screw up any civil liberties. don't screw up my swimsuit areas don't screw up my kids and don't screw up my mocha. that will ruin my day. if i'm going to understand this community policing thing i'm going to have to pound the pavement with officers that are actually from camden. these officers, both from camden, have invited me to walk the beat with them. today we're going to walk the beat? >> right under the sun, yes. >> let's do it.

what is the purpose of walking the beat? >> for police presence. a lot of people that live in the city, they don't want to see officers just riding in their cars. they want a more personal experience. >> being from camden, does that help you patrol and be police officers? >> yes, it makes them feel more comfortable, because they're not like, you don't understand my situation. i'm like, wait a minute, i'm from here, i was raised here, i know exactly what you're talking about. and it makes them feel a little more at ease because they think maybe she does get it. she knows what i've been through and it makes them a little more comfortable. >> they can't b.s. you in the same way. >> yes. >> they try. >> how are you guys? >> hey, man. >> are you the comedian? >> i am the -- >> i just told him that. >> looks like the police aren't the only ones with street cred. walking the beat is hard work. because not only does it last

for an entire eight-hour shift but also because officers cabria and ty have to convince this neighborhood one person at a time that police aren't jerks. >> i'm sorry, i like babies. he's a boy? how old is he? what's your name? >> mallory. don't be shy. it's okay. have a nice day, okay? >> you too. >> bye. >> i love kids. >> is that part of it? just talking to people, just being a person? >> mm-hm. because then they're not afraid of you when they see you. >> and it doesn't just put a police officer in their face when something bad happens. >> yes. >> a lot of people in our community are afraid of the cops, and a lot of people i don't know, maybe feel like you're judged because you're people of color wearing the uniform. >> you get mixed reaction, especially with everything going on in the media. they only see your uniform. they don't see you as a human. they expect you not to

understand. and they don't realize that under this uniform, you're still a person. you still have feelings, has nothing to do with color. has nothing to do with gender. it just has to do with there are certain things that we have to do as officers. a lot of people understand that, they become a little irate, i understand you're just doing your job. and things go smoothly after that. >> do you live here if >> yes. >> is that yours right there? >> every time i pass there. >> is that a person? and i have to double back around. >> that was a santa claus. >> my name's kamau. >> nice to meet you. >> i'll be seeing you over there. >> you're sniffing. >> i don't know if this handshaking approach is the solution, but if all the bad things that could happen in an encounter with the police, i'll take awkward small talk any day. >> my name is kamau. nice to meet you.

>> doesn't your grandmother or mother live on 5th street or grant street? >> yeah, my aunt. you was at the incident for my daughter. >> yes. yes. >> and he's still in jail. >> that's good. >> that is good. >> i remember that. i remembered you and her. >> there was an incident and he showed up? >> for my daughter. a guy got fresh with her. >> got fresh with her. did he do a good job handling it? >> yes, he did. >> glad he's still in jail, though. >> how long have you lived in camden? >> all my life. >> are things looking up? >> north camden's getting better as days go by. >> thank you very much for talking to me. >> bye-bye. >> this was interesting, but honestly, it might take a few hundred years of this kind of interaction before communities of color trust the police. but it does seem like a good start. but we all know right now in america we need way more than a good start. [ guitar playing ] ugh. heartburn. sorry ma'am. no burning here. try new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. they work fast and don't taste chalky. mmmm. incredible.

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back on the beat in camden, i'm heading out on patrol again. this time, i'm with officer matt dedamimico. >> did you always want to be a cop? >> i did. camden was hiring. i looked at it as a place to learn and make a difference. >> i see you looking out the window, what are you doing?

>> i always have a window down when i'm patrolling. i always like to have an ear on the streets. my fellow officers have instilled it in my head, pay attention, that will save your life, always watch your six. >> and your six is what's behind you? >> yeah. >> i've seen the "bourne identity." i've absorbed a lot through matt damon. what are you doing right now? >> we're going to check out a house known for cds activity. >> what is cds? >> drugs, controlled dangerous substance. >> 868, can you show me an assist, please. >> backup, this can't be good. >> so, yeah, this is the location, actually, the front door is open, last time i was here it was boarded up. so --

>> you think somebody maybe took the doors off the door? >> yeah, that's the way it appears, it used to be you were only able to get in through the rear. stay there, don't move. >> have a seat for me real quick, ma'am? >> sure. i just got to talk to you. >> you were inside the property, right? >> oh, yeah, yeah. >> you know you can't be on the property? >> all right, there's three people in there, sarge. >> let me see your hands! let me see your hands now! >> come out now. if you don't, i will release a dog, and he will bite you! >> come outside with your hands where i can see them. put it down, have a seat.

>> this house, which i don't even feel safe standing in, is apparently a well-known drug spot in camden. >> probably where they were. this is fresh. this is fresh heroin that has not been used yet. >> oh, wow. >> the front is completely blown out, or the side i should say, is completely blown out. >> you say watch my step, but i need to watch what i'm standing under. this used to be somebody's home. somebody picked out this carpet. there was discussions about this carpet going in here. >> memories were created here, christmas mornings. it took a dark turn. >> now it's this. >> and if you thought all this was happening in a deserted area of town you'd be wrong. >> you live here? >> i've been here about ten years already.

>> did you see what went down, what we were part of? >> kind of, so many people going in and out of that house. it be like 50, 60 people coming in and out that house every day. >> really? >> day and night. i mean, come on, my kids be out here, a lot of kids be o here, and they grow up looking at that, i'm interested in that, so let me go do that, and then we have another drug user, come on, we don't need that. that's not cool. >> he's right, it isn't cool. and in parts of camden like this, this kind of activity seems normal. and while i'm overwhelmed, this lady seems like she's taking a sunday drive in the park. >> hey, sweetie, how are you doing? >> i'm all right. >> good! >> ma'am, my name's kamau. we're shooting in camden, talking about policing in camden, hanging out with the police. and you seem to be friends with the police. do you live here in camden? >> yes, i do. >> how do you feel about living in camden? >> i love this city.

>> you just drove through here, smiling and talking. it was almost as if you weren't even, i know you could see it was happening. >> it doesn't affect me. the key is, we have to get involved. now with this drug stuff, we have zombies walking through our streets, it's no excuse for that. and it has to be a proactive approach. if we choose not to get involved, then whatever happens we can't complain about. the minute we become involved and we're taking ownership of the situation and the problem. and when we have ownership of it, that means we can dictate how it happens and what happens. >> i don't know how she can handle this. she has pride in camden and believes it will get better. but for me at this point, i'm pretty much gutted. there's problems all over the country with police and how police are doing their thing and what police are doing, but we can't have that. it's just depressing.

this is sad. kids should be able to play basketball right there, but i wouldn't let my kids play basketball out here. the city has a lot of work to do. and i really hope this is the police force to do it. because they certainly need a police force that believes in the city and wants the city to do better. i got kids. i wouldn't, i can't imagine what it's like to live in this city. and i'm sure it's great and people have great things they do here and they love it and they have pride. a lot of people have pride, but to know that this is always right around the corner is overwhelming. i can't imagine. this is really emotional. ♪

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>> one, two, three. >> here at the police academy, potential officers are put through rigorous physical training. >> one more, push it! push it! >> these recruits have a tough and complicated job ahead of them, and i really have to ask, why would you want to be a cop? first question, why did you pick camden? there's a place called medford lakes. that sounds like that would be a barney fife situation. but you picked camden. >> personally, for me, my parents are pastors in camden, new jersey, so i've been in that community for so long. i could have chosen to work in a suburban community which may have been safer as some people say. >> a lot of cats in trees. >> yeah. but that's not what i felt like my calling was. my calling and what i have passion for is the urban community. that's where i want to work. >> there's a lot of policing to do. >> a lot of action, a lot of diversity as well. >> i think that's great.

is there any part of it, the idea of being a police officer is, what's the word i'm looking for, scares the shit out of me. i get it that it's a public service and we need police officers. and we need well-trained, highly effective officers, but is there any part of it that scares you or you're worried about or? >> the only thing i'm nervous about is the culture toward law enforcement now. a lot of people are scared of law enforcement. i am hoping if i can bring some integrity to the job, respect, respecting people's privacy and rights that can bring a new attitude toward law enforcement. >> the most important thing is to bring trust so we have a safer environment for the community and the officers. >> i'm glad you guys are looking forward to being cops and good luck out there on the streets of camden, as they say, let's be careful out there. >> thank you, sir.

>> stop calling me sir. >> i guess the call comes from watching that liquid metal cop in "terminator two" for some. but for others, policing's in their blood. i mean backup with officer ty bagby and his father, scott bagby, retired lieutenant. another black man of unidentifiable age. this is the shooting age? >> yes, sir. >> this is where you practice and keep your skills tight? >> pretty much. [ gunfire ] >> the threat is officially stopped. >> a lot of times they say why didn't the cop shoot him in the leg and the person can still be alive? >> hollywood. unfortunately, we're not all bruce willis and denzel washington. if we go to shoot for the arm or

leg, if he moves, it might go in the back and shoot baby susie, and we don't want that. >> you're police officers, but you're also black dudes, i'm a black dude. so i'm declaring a black guy meeting right now. talk about the relationship between the black community and the police department. right now, nationally, that relationship seems like it's in a crisis. there's a perception that black people have something extra to worry about when we're being policed. >> to me it's the way it's promoted. >> a lot of incidents don't have to happen based on what i know and see and hear. a lot of these don't have to occur if you do exactly what you're told to do. if you're told to take your hands out of your pockets, it's a safety issue, safety of the individual and the officer, even if you don't agree, follow it. even if you feel as though the officer is doing something wrong, there's an avenue later on to address that. >> it's hard for people to swallow, because it feels like, and i respect police officers, let me be clear, i don't think we should not have cops, but i understand when i see these

people getting upset, why they're upset. i'm not asking about cops in camden. are there bad police officers? >> i would say absolutely. naturally, there's bad human beings. just generally, there's bad people. and sometimes people slip through the cracks so to speak and become police officers, and their true personality comes out after the fact, and it's unfortunate, but it does happen that way. >> i think, for me, it feels like the last thing any police officer wants to do is admit that another cop is bad because they don't want to cross that thin, blue line. for us, i sometimes think if cops could go, yeah, that cop was not a good cop and we're glad we got him out of here, opposed to saying it's always on citizens to understand why things went down. know what i'm saying?

>> yes. >> especially when i talk to officers of color, that's a thing we don't hear enough. >> you've asked those questions, that means we get to ask you a question. >> if you feel questions for me, feel free to ask. >> what's your perception of the average police officer now that you've gotten to speak to a few of them? >> i'm still processing it. a lot of it is still fresh for me. everything i'm hearing from people is things i would want to hear from police officers. sometimes you're like, is this the thing? or is this because the cameras are here? the idea of community policing and the idea of police living there, it seems like a better way to go. it's better if i come across police officers more often who i get to know than if i see them only when the [ bleep ] hits the fan. >> it's all in the news now. the media always reporting there's an epidemic of black people being assaulted and killed by police officers. no. it's kind of always been happening. there's an epidemic of people having cell phone cameras is what there is. [ applause ]

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whenever i see news stories about police using deadly force

in situations i don't think call for deadly force, i always think the same thing. what the hell are police thinking? so the camden police have invited me to get into the head of a cop who is in the heat of the moment. this is a virtual reality center, to see how officer bell would react in a tough situation. >> the system is very interactive, as close to real life as you're going to get without being in danger. >> sir, put down the weapon, sir. >> appear on the hexagon. you can maneuver all the way around the platform. the cameras from the computer and monitors pick up your movements. >> sir, drop the weapon. >> and it allows 360-degree interaction. >> now this may look like a video game, but it's not. take it from me, the fact that it features real people in these scenarios, makes it very intense

and a little too real. >> sir, i don't want to hurt you. do not go in that building, sir. don't touch that door handle, sir. sir, drop the weapon. sir. >> four shots fired, got a male down. send me a 52. >> after every scenario, we do a debrief with the officer, let them know what they did right and what they did wrong. >> how do you think he did? >> he did excellent. he went from sir drop the gun and didn't realize this guy's thinking about committing suicide and brought it back down. i don't want to take this guy's life. let me try and save it by talking him through this situation he's going through, but if need be, i'll have to take it to prevent him from taking anyone else's life. follow me up on the stage. >> after sergeant thornton gives me a crash course on handling a weapon -- >> bring the weapon down and up. pivot right.

>> -- it's time to begin. have i mentioned i would rather hug it out? officer fontez is my backup. as we check out a report of suspicious males in the back of a movie theater. a scenario modeled after the shooting in aurora, colorado. >> where's he at? where's he at? talk to us. >> where is he? where's he at? talk to us. where is he? [ shots fired ] >> sir, sir, sir, let him go, sir. let her go, sir. >> you don't want to do this, sir. let her go. sir, calm down. talk about this, sir. [ shots fired ] >> stay in the game. stay in the game. >> please, help me!

please help me, please! >> you know where he's at? >> i bet that black guy gets shot a lot. >> where's he at? where's he at? you know where he's at? put the gun down. where's he at, where's he at. get down, get down. ma'am, get down. >> a 34, another male down. >> you all right? >> time to find out how i did, and hopefully get a hug? >> if you felt that you could take this shot, then yes, you'd have been justified. but you elected to try and talk him down, right? >> yes. >> it's not a wrong thing to do. that was your gut call. >> yeah. >> and, as an officer, you make split-second decisions that

people have hours and days to criticize. but the only thing you have to realize is that every decision you make, you have to live with. >> yes. >> no one else. keep going. at this point off duty cop comes out, shows you his badge, has his gun. good control. way not to get sucked up into the scenario, all right? >> yeah. >> roll. you're coming in with your partner, you're clearing high/low, y'all are communicating. >> what are you doing? >> she gets shot. freeze. he shoots her twice. you and fontez take the shot and you get him. good job. you live. this is technically a win, but it's not. several people still died. these are all things you have to live with. and you're going to monday morning quarterback yourself for the rest of your life.

>> apparently, i did well. they were clearly surprised that i hadn't just shot everybody, and we all know that most of policing isn't attempted murder/suicide and movie theater shooters. i wonder if they have a scenario for a black guy standing on the corner minding his own business, and if they do, how often does that guy die? >> did i have the skill? did i do the right thing? >> obviously, this isn't a real scenario, and i'm sure the reality is way more intense than this, but it feels intense. any number of things can happen. it's my last night here, and in another effort to bring the city together there's a basketball game between the local team and camden police, looks like community policing isn't helping their game any, and of course the police know it's going to take more than b-ball and walking the beat to earn the trust and respect of the

residents of camden, it's going to take time. and many examples of police publicly doing their jobs well without people feeling they're going too far. it's going to take people feeling like if they call the police when they need help that the police will come and make a bad situation better instead of the reverse, and this is bigger than camden. there's a national crisis happening in our country between communities of color and the police. now, look, do i think community policing will solve all our law enforcement issues? no. but hopefully, it is a good start. time will tell. >> that guy looked at me like, what are you doing in the front seat? it's a unique experience for me to be in a cop car and see the look on some people's faces as the cop car passes. i want to be like, i'm not actually a police officer. i'm just hanging out. it's not that people look angry,

it's just that they're noticing, like the way i feel like i would notice if a bobcat walked through my street. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com one of america's favorite pastimes is lumping groups of people together. you know what i am talking about, like the whole idea of minorities. let's take all the people who are darker than vin diesel and call them minorities. [ laughter ] and it does not make any sense, because we have so many cultures and languages and religions and things. the only thing that really bonds minorities together is that we believe that if you're going to eat pork, you got to use all the pig. you know what i mean? you can't just be like the white people and scrape off the bacon and the ribs and throw the rest of it away. no, you have to get in that pig. pickle that, brine that, suck on that toenail.