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wherever you're watching from around the world, thanks very much for joining us. we begin with important developments from three of the world's terror hot spots. in syria, coordinated terror bombings that have targeted government strongholds and isis is claiming responsibility. one series of explosions at a
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bus station in tartus and another in the residential neighborhood of jabla. at least 78 people were killed. in fallujah, iraq, new exclusive video of the all out battle between isis fighters and iraqi security forces. iraq's prime minister announcing the operation to liberate fallujah is under way and reportedly trapped inside the city and to the east near the pakistan and afghanistan border, new information about the death of mohamed mansour confirming he was in an air strike over the weekend and now hearing the insurgent group is meeting to choose a new top commander. we've got full coverage of those stories from correspondents. our pentagon correspondent, and jim sciutto covering the national security angle and our
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senior international nick paton walsh. this operation to liberate fallujah in a decisive stage. >> no question. you could see how difficult it is with the first images there. they're clearly on the outskirts of the city. this is a big city and as they move inside, it would be difficult. there's a number of civilians there and of course, they're going to be limiting civilian deaths, but also, we know that isis has had time to prepare for this and this will be a city littered with improvised explosive devices and a dangerous battle in romadi. 21 air strikes from fighters and drones from the last six days to soften up the defenses there of isis as iraqi forces take the lead on the ground. >> but will u.s. forces also? i know they're involved in air strikes but will u.s. forces also go in on the ground? >> to our knowledge, no. is it possible you will have forward deployed?
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possible. >> i was in fallujah back in 2005 with u.s. central manager john and it was shortly after it was freed, in effect, it was pretty upbeat place but the whole area of anbar province has collapsed. >> this is a sunni dominated province and one of the struggles, you have some support among the sunni population in part because they don't feel they're being served by the shia dominated government and for americans, a lot of american soldiers, particularly, lly ma died as isis swept in there more than two years ago and particularly difficult to watch back in the hands of isis. >> heartbreaking for those who lost loved ones in fallujah back in 2004 and 2005 and those operations were very, very dangerous. thank you very much. jim sciutto. i want to bring in barbara starr, a pentagon correspondent. you went in the cnn exclusive
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with the head of the central commands. general joseph. he was on a secret visit inside the country, not every day that a four-star u.s. general goes inside syria. what do you learn today about these latest attacks in syria? >> reporter: well, these attacks in syria are something that joe is watching very carefully. they came just hours after we left syria and arrived here in ayman. a long standing member of special operations. he knows what it takes. he's determined to go inside syria and visit his troops. these are the first images ever shown publicly from a u.s. special operations training camp in northern syria. from here and other secret nearby locations, the u.s. military is racing time to train enough local syrian forces so they can push south towards
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raqqa, the isis self-claimed capital. he was on a secret day long trip to syria. bot votel leads. >> i was in multiple locations and meet with our advisor teams. >> reporter: general votel has come under extraordinary security conditions to syria. we have asked not to reveal a number of details on how we all got here. but votel considers this part of the war a top priority. he is here to meet with the u.s. military advisors that are helping some of these local troops that you see work to defeat isis. votel went to multiple locations we've been asked not to disclose meeting with key local leaders in the syrian democratic forces, an umbrella organization overseeing many of these young
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arab fighters the u.s. is training. the spokesman for the forces are critical of u.s. efforts saying they need more ammunition and weapons beyond the few ammunition supplies he says the u.s. has delivered. >> translator: we've been given a limited number of all. >> due to security concerns, we are not allowed to show details of the base. our cameras are restricted. security is so high here, the u.s. advisors want their faces shielded. but they do want to talk about the training. you're a military advisor here. what do you guys do here? >> we are here training the syrian democratic forces. and when i say training, that's generally consisting of basic level weapons training, shooting ak-47s and shooting larger machine guns. >> reporter: their four-star general taking an extraordinary
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step to see it all firsthand. >> i have responsibility for this mission. i have responsibility for the people that we've put here. so it's imperative for me to see what they're dealing with, to share the risks that they are absorbing on a day-to-day basis. >> reporter: even as the arab fighters here patrol the surrounding fields and stand watch getting ready for whatever their future holds. now the security forces that protected general votel and the rest of us who went in and out of syria with him are from some of the most elite, most secretive units in the u.s. military. we simply are not permitted to identify them or anything about them. this posed a real challenge because of these restrictions in bringing this story to everyone. i want to acknowledge our incredible cnn photojournalist khalil abdullah who worked with them all day and all night long to bring everyone this amazing
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story. wolf? >> yeah, he's a great photo journalist, khalil. let's talk about the syrian rebels the u.s. is helping to train. are they motivated to go after bashar al assad's regime in damascus or motivated to go after the isis fighters that there have been some conflicts in the past? >> reporter: you translators, we asked the question. they see in this part of syria of northern syria to be very committed to going after isis. they have seen isis roll through their villages, especially the kurds and the arabs who are in this portion of northern syria. they know about assad. they know what he's doing. they know the violence there. they're very aware of the russian presence, but in their particular area of northern syria and that's really all they're allowed to identify here, they appear to be very motivated to get the u.s. training to go after isis, but this is going to be very slow
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going. these are, you know, multiple dozens of recruitins that come here at a time and dozens to be needed and not going to happen anytime soon. >> quick, are these kurdish fighters or are they arab fighters? >> reporter: this is the syrian democratic forces, and so that's an umbrella organization which includes kurds, arabs, and other groups in this region of northern syria. you know, and we talk about their goal is to push their forward line south towards raqqa, isis' capital. one of the reasons that the u.s. is working so hard to bring the arabs along into this fight is they believe those arab fighters, because of the ethnic diversity will be much more motivated to push out to go to raqqa. that is somewhat of their arab territory. the kurds fighting much more
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along that northern line along the border with turkey, that presents a whole other problem to the u.s. because the turks just across the border, very concerned about u.s. support for the kurds, very concerned that this could all result in the kurds, declaring it independent territory right on turkey's southern border. >> barbara, thanks very much for the excellent reporting. we have some new developments in afghanistan today in our senior international correspondent, nick paton walsh following from beirut. what are you learning about the death of the taliban commander, moham mohamed mansour? >> reporter: well, it's now being clearly confirmed by barack obama himself after appearing in which u.s. officials try to gather some sort of solid dna evidence from the site of the drone strike inside pakistan, we understand, which hit the vehicle where he was traveling with another man thought to be a drive and the key issue is this sparks a
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succession within the taliban. it was already a fraught succession when he took the helm after the death of the long-term taliban leader. we have a sort of short list of potential candidates but i have to say, wolf. the white house had been framing the death of mansour as a win for peace as him an obstacle that they want to pursue the taliban, the best way of stopping the fighting in afghanistan but frankly, those potential successes to mansour are quite likely not to seek negotiation with either side at this point. now shah ra, the chief facilitator of al qaeda is one of those potential successors as the brother, perhaps, of mullah, the long-term leader. it's unlikely those leaders in the same way found himself when they come to the role of leading the taliban will seek anything other than to gain more
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territory, to be seen to be a successful military leader to kind of garner support among different fractures, parts now the taliban in afghanistan. we may see temporary disarray, perhaps, and it was true in that meeting yesterday in pakistan where senior taliban, we understand who might succeed mansour and find an immediate successor. there are a lot of tensions and may cause array but may see an uptick as they rival for supremacy or different leaders for the job, wolf. >> thank you, nick paton walsh, reporting for us. right here on cnn, fareed zakaria investigates why radical muslims hate america and the west. the special documentary, why they hate us, 9:00 p.m. here on cnn. coming up, an officer of the freddie gray death case in baltimore is found not guilty on
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a race for the white house. donald trump is trying to rally republicans while bernie sanders is waging war against the democratic party. hillary clinton is caught between the ongoing primary fight in the general election battle that's up coming out of the campaign trail. clinton trying to shore up labor union support in detroit where she's getting ready to address the service employee's international union. this hour, you look at live pictures. bernie sanders is campaigning in california later this afternoon and donald trump, meanwhile, he's been meeting with the, he's set to meet later today with bob ka corker, here's the question. is donald trump trying to varnish his own foreign policy kre dcredentials and considerin as a vice presidential running
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mate? moech moments ago, he emerged on hill and said this. >> he's talking about banning a religion of people. >> we talked more about china, russia, i will tell you what's interesting. i met my counterpart this last week from china. the week before last. i see a lot of men in china, in munich. i will say that, you know, the fact that he's challenging some of the status quo, it is causing these countries to think a little bit differently about the u.s. and i say that in a positive way. so anyway, we had a good conversation about those types of things.
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other foreign policy issues and how the campaign will go. my guess is they are, you know, i don't know this, but my guess is their way, away from those kind of conversations right now. we really talked more of policy kind of a meeting, and get to know you kind of a meeting. i found it very enjoyable. >> you're the highest ranking republican leader to visit donald trump on his home turf since he became the presumptive nominee perhaps this entire campaign. it's certainly setting off vice presidential rumors. >> and again, i don't think that -- >> why would you make the trip here if it was just for a hi, hello? >> i was up here last monday meeting with henry misskissinged i think it was worthwhile to get to know the nominee in a little bit different way and we did
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that today. but let me, again, i said this when this all came up a couple of weeks ago. i have no reason whatsoever to believe that i'm being considered for a position like that. i'll say that until i'm blue in my face. this was a meeting between two people who didn't know each other except over phone calls. getting to know each other and that's it. i would guess that the campaign, i mean, those kind of things take a while and i have no reason to believe that i'm being considered. >> would you consider a role in a future trump administration? >> i think, as i've said before, look, i am doing what i'm doing because i care deeply about policy. i want to see us succeed and solve the problems we have as a nation, and i think those types of questions, obviously, you want to know what the circumstances were, what the
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relationship is, but again, to even -- even to conjecture something i have no reason is being considered is not even a responsible thing for me to do. >> some candidates ruled it out. they haven't been asked. >> i have no reason to believe i'm being considered. >> is that a standard line now? >> all right. so that's bob corker, the republican senator from tennessee. the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. he just emerged from a meeting at trump tower in new york and you heard what he said. trump primarily spoke about policy and other issues. he said he has no reason to believe at least for now he's being considered as a possible vice presidential running mate or for a cabinet position for that matter, but that's what a lot of politicians at this stage say. let's bring in sean spicer, the chief strategist, communications director for the republican national committee.
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thank you very much for joining us. >> good afternoon, wolf. >> you think it was a simply get to know each other between senator corker and donald trump or you think there's more there as far as a potential running mate slot for senator corker? >> i do think mr. trump is new at politics and for these individuals who have been in washington leading different areas, this is an opportunity to get to know and talk to trump about the policy direction he wants to take this country, about the solutions he has for the country and again, this is, as you and viewers recall, up until a couple of weeks ago, envisioned this race going well until june 7th. so this is him wrapping up earlier allowed for conversations to take place with a lot of individuals influential in the policy decisions. >> he seems to be going through, checking the boxes as some people say, talking to
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establishment republicans, whether henry kissinger or james baker, both former secretary of states, senator corker for that matter, going to the national rifle association event the other day. he's trying, i guess, his main goal right now is to unite the republican party. how's he doing? >> i think if you look at all the polls out there and the comments coming from leading republicans, he's doing excellent. we are in a much better place than i think the other party when you look at the fracture and divide over there. the more and more republican leaders, those, in fact, who actually debated donald trump for the nomination have come on board, called for the party to unite, get behind the recent polling that came out strongly suggests the republican party that is uniting, in fact, not just good for the party but you see the tread line for trump surge ahead of hillary clinton in the head to head. on the flip side, you see bernie sanders and his team call for the resignation of dnc chairwoman debbie
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wasserman-schultz and one of the leading candidates for their party come out and endorse her primary opponent who just today announced he raised a quarter of a million dollars over the weekend on sanders supports. those are real divisions that exist in that party, converse to our party, we're heading in a much better direction as we head to our convention into victory in november. >> how worried are you about the third party bid? the libertarian, two former republican governors, gary johnson, and former republican governor of massachusetts. if they win this time around, how worried they will take away votes from the republican nominee? >> none. zero. i mean, they have, just to put it into perspective, debbie wasserman-schultz raised more money this weekend than they've raised total. so i get it. it's a talking point. but each week, we continue to have this it ration of what's
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wrong with the republican party and yet more and more, we see the uniting of the party and the ability of us to move ahead and defeat hick. i think the media wants a third party. they want a fight. they're not going to get it. there's no support for governor johnson or weld. neither one, frankly, in terms of bill weld, he's not even a libertarian. i think he just wants to be on the ballot but we're united as a party and bringing in independents and if you look at the latest polling, 17% of those bernie sanders supporters say they vote for mr. trump. while i appreciate the intrigue about the republican party, i think the democrats have a much, much more substantial problem that's really bearing out in the polls. >> i raise the question, sean, because i remember back in 2000, in the state of florida, al gore, george w. bush, won by 500 plus votes in florida as a result. he eventually became president of the united states but a third
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party candidate, ralph nader had 90,000 and a lot of experts believe those came from the democrat. that would be al gore and he caused the republican in effect to become president. so that's why a third party candidate, libertarian candidate, william weld, even if they don't get a lot of votes, they could be decisive. you've got to be worried potentially about that. >> well, i would if i thought they had any sense of structure or organization. they don't. i think on the flip side to your point about nader, if the sanders folks don't come together, which it looks like they're not, there's a lot of distrust and concern but for how bernie sanders is treated by the democratic national committee throughout this process. i would be more concerned about a wing of the progressive party or green party, whatever on the left, kind of evolving or putting someone like a ralph nader out on the ballot as a protest vote. so i'm very confident where we are as a party and moving forward. i think any republican, any true
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conservative understands the way to keep hillary clinton out of office is to stay united as a party which we're seeing as the polls are showing together for us and not for them. again, i don't spend time thinking about this. we're pretty happy with how the party is moving forward and the poll results speak for themselves. >> sean spicer of the rnc, thanks very much. >> thanks, wolf. coming up, trump and clinton in the statistical dead heat that according to two polls. in fact, in one of those polls, trump even sur passes hillary clinton. we've got the details. you do all this research on
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that's clearly within the margin of error. in a new nbc "wall street journal" poll, clinton is at 46% to 43%. also within the margin of error. let's bring in our chief political correspondent and david gregory, host of "the david gregory show" podcast. he's in new york. he meets at trump tower with donald trump to talk about china, other international issues. clearly, a lot of people are wondering, is he on the short list to be vice president? >> it's hard to imagine he's not. bob corker, i think, was a little bit of a canary in the coal mine when it comes to the foreign policy establishment. he came out relatively early before trump had the nomination locked up, and said nice things about him. and actually, it took a lot of people who were in the never trump camp on the republican side by surprise because corker's the real deal.
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he's a serious guy when it comes to foreign policy. and i take him at his word this particular meeting was a get to know you. the two only have spoken by phone and do have a lot to discuss policy-wise but getting to know you is just the first step in what could be a very serious consideration. >> as you know, donald trump has repeatedly said he wants somebody with that legislative washington experience. since he comes from the business world, he doesn't necessarily have that. >> and he doesn't have a tremendous list of establishment types in the republican party who are inside the fold whether it's foreign policy or anything else. so corker does make sense from that point of view and i'm sure is looked at. this is a completely unorthodox process but trump would understand he wants an establishment figure, to do business in washington and help him develop a more coherent foreign policy point of view that can reassure people as well as give him specific areas of
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knowledge. >> i agree with that and the one thing i would add is that corker is a bit unique in that he's not just a legislator and a washington insider. he was a business guy in tennessee. they share that sensibility for sure and he was a mayor so also has a smaller scale but chief executive experience. >> and the fact he came out for trump early on, you know donald trump, you know donald trump, he likes that loyalty, he likes people that have been with him, i suspect, that's an important factor in selecting a vice president. >> you brought that up a number of times when we talked about it and i think it's important because the loyalty to him or disloyalty says a lot about trump's temperament, who he'll keep in that inner circle. these give us real clues into how a president would make decisions. >> these polls are out. a lot of people are wondering, especially around the world, how close it is potentially between donald trump and hillary clinton, assuming she's the democratic nominee. i guess a lot of people are surprised. >> yeah. i mean, i guess they are.
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but if you take a step back, david, i'm sure, because we were seat mates on at least one campaign back in 2004, so we saw even when there are such stark, stark opinions and sentiments and really emotion about a particular candidate, it's a 50/50 nation. i mean, it is a split nation. it just is. i think what's most interesting about these polls is that, at least particularly "the washington post" poll especially is how high the unfavorables are for both candidates. i mean, dan bauls said in history, two candidates have not been more disliked equally and that could be driving the support on either side. kind of at cross purposes, if you will. >> i think it's interesting, of course, it's close. what we see is a lot of consolidation on the republican side that i think is surprising because we know so much opposition to trump, you're talking about the prospect of a third party and those in the party who say never trump, never
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vote for him and yet, he's achieving a level of consolidation we didn't think was possible and worth remembering two things. hillary clinton in a primary fight and beaten down by that a little bit. the standing the barack obama election, she's solid in that group and still a big area of weakness for donald trump at this stage. talking may of the election. >> she's solid in that group but does have the same problem that barack obama had in 2008 at this snapshot in time which is that the vast majority of people who say they support bernie sanders over her are kind of in the never hillary camp. again, it was very similar back in 2008 but as she told our chris cuomo in an interview, she worked really hard to get her supporters behind barack obama and still unclear if bernie sanders is going to do the same for her. >> we'll see if he does. he made the comment about the lesser of two evils. >> not on board yet.
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>> a lot of eyebrows. stand by. coming up, there's other news we're following, freddie grey's death, the custody of baltimore police raised the police department under intense scrutiny. that police department in baltimore, and now officer accused in the case found not guilty on all counts and bring you the latest. live when we come back. i taste - whaaaaaaaaaow. wha wha na na na na na na da ba da ba da ba daw! it's good.
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assault, reckless endangerment and miguel marquez joining us with more. what's the reaction so far, miguel? >> reporter: i'll tell you what edward nero's reaction was when he read the charges off. explaining why he was going to go the way he was. it was looking good throughout but when edward nero stood and listened to that judge say not guilty on all counts, his head sort of tilted back and took in a deep breath and took it all in and literally put his head down and just began to sob. a very good carried of just how emotional it is not only for him but this entire city and people watching very, very carefully how this case is going to go. mark zayon, edward nero's lawyer, saying him and his family are elated this nightmare is finally over. they rush to charge him as well as five officers completing disregarding the facts of this case and the applicable law.
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officer nero is appreciative of the judgment barry williams applied in this ruling and hopes the others are not tried and they come to the same result. the bottom line is that the judge just said the prosecution never made its case. the city now taking in a collective breath waiting to see if any reaction. wolf? >> the trial of first police officer resulted in a mistrial, a hung jury? >> reporter: officer porter ended in a mistrial and will be retried. the next trial june 6th. officer cee daesar goodson. expected to be most difficult. >> all these trials still going forward, right? >> reporter: there will be many trials going forward. officer porter will be tried at the end of this process now and several trials before his. it has gotten complicated and legal because of whether or not officers can testify against
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other officers. you'll actually see different prosecutors at one point so that they don't contaminate cases. wolf? >> thank you. ahead, the search for the flight recorders of egyptair flight 804 now expanding and new questions about who had access to the plane before the deadly crash. you do all this research on
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dealing with very long security lines at some of the nation's busiest airports due to tsa staffing. shortage as congressman john mike on transportation of public assets and helped create the tsa and joining us now live. thank you very much for joining us, congressman. we don't know exactly what happened to the plane but how will the investigation into the cause of the egyptair crash impact u.s. travelers? >> we have to be cautious. i don't know if you recall, but the media disclosed last fall that there was a 95% failure rate in the performance of tsa and that's what precipitated this crackdown and actually, the crackdown sort of in the wrong direction because they're using all of their resources now to go after the 99% of the people who don't pose a risk. you see them in line. what they should be doing is focusing their resources on
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people who may pose a risk. some of them behind the secure areas who haven't been vetted. some of the resources should go to intelligence, so we track and we connect the dots and stop the terrorists before they get to the airport or stop them haven't been vetted. >> you helped create the tsa. you have recently called for privatizing at least parts of the screening process. why? >> well, that's -- from the beginning it was never intended to be all government. it's a huge personnel bureaucracy with huge overhead. you have 13,000 people on top of 45,000 screeners. we started out with 16,000 screeners and then went to 22,000 an then 35,000. at 35,000, the failure rate at 75% and leaked to the press. here congress has given -- it's not a question of resources.
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each year the republicans have controlled the congress. we have given them more money than the administration or dhs asked for. in addition, we changed the fees so they get more fees for the passengers, they're processing. it's not a resources. it's how you spend the money and how you focus attention. and it should be where the risk is, not hassling innocent american passengers. >> dhs, department of homeland security, congressman, we have heard stories of passengers being stuck in security lines at some of the busiest airports for two, three hours, some of them forced to spend the night at airports because they missed their flights. is the tsa equipped to handle the expected huge influx of passengers of the memorial day weekend and then the summer travel season? >> yeah. well, wolf, a year ago they had 5,000 vacancies and hired about 500 people. they can't recruit. they can't train.
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they can't retain and they can't administer personnel. it is a huge bureaucracy. so part of the problem is tsa. they need to get out of the personnel business, into the security business. connecting the dots. going after people who pose a risk. know where they are before they get to the airport and certainly not letting them work behind the secure areas. we don't no e that. all rights i have gotten as recently as this year indicate a failure of vetting people to pose a risk. in paris, it may be an inside job. they went through after the paris bombings and they cleaned out 70 or 80 folks who had some questionable background or connections. since tsa started back in 2003 when we kept the records, they testified to me in january they've only taken out 58 credentialed people through the whole system in the united states. their focus on the wrong thing.
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hassling the innocent american passengers and they've got to get it right. you can't afford to make a mistake. >> congressman mica, thank you very much for joining us. >> good to be with you, wolf. five days in and the search for answers into what happened to egyptair flight 804 is underwater. trying to find the voice and data recorders which could shed important light on what brought down the plane. over the weekend, some human remans were pulled from the sea with life vests, suits and suitca suitcases. cnn's nic robertson is following the story for us in alexandria, egypt. nic, officials are stressinging no possibility is off the table. when's the latest you're hearing? >> reporter: there's a few developments in the last hours. a family member is called in. called and told us they're
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called in to go through dna testing because they understand this family member understands their loved one, part of their loved one maybe, is recovered by authorities so that beginning process of dna analysis of some of those human remains that have been recovered so far appears to have begun today. also, we understand that egyptian authorities asked greek air traffic control to give them their entire transcript of every scrap of conversation that the greek air traffic controllers had with egyptair flight passing through their air space. also reached out to french authorities asking them for any audio or visual recordings they may have of the time that egyptair flight was at charles de gaulle airport and in french air space. so the egyptians are reaching out for help. they have the help as you say today from the french survey vessel. one of the important things as this french vessel has is
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acoustic detention devices and of course those are critical when they put them in the water to listen for the pingers, those transmitters on the black boxes, the audio and data recorders that are submerged at the bottom of the stae rigea right now. nothing breaks if you will that breaks the story apart and lets us know what brought the plane down and every level there are things moving forward here. >> very quickly, "the new york times" over the weekend reported that this particular plane brought down had graffiti painted on it two years ago in arabic saying we will bring this plane down. what are authorities saying about that ominous perhaps coincidence or not? >> reporter: well, the minister of aviation said he wasn't aware of this until he read the newspaper article and then he wasn't minister of aviation when that happened several years ago and tried to steer the conversation from saying this is so important and focus on this
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saying, look, follow through the investigation. he didn't say that they were going to ignore this issue but this comes from the tail number on the plane and the connection between this plane comes down, they're talking there about the president cisi. seems to be the genesis of how that happened. >> all right. we'll stay in close touch for you. the news continues right after a quick break. if you have medicare
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