your song, that's pretty cool. >> all right, will, rick astley, it has been cool having you on the show. we appreciate it. thank you so much. >> thank you. my absolute pleasure. thank you. >> the '80s airs at 9:00. ac 360 starts now. good evening, thanks for joining us. donald trump wrapped up an event in billings, montana after locking up the republican nomination today, going over the 1237 line. he erased any serious notion of a never trump movement, took one step closer to the white house. tonight reaction to his numerical triumph and attacks on republican governor of new mexico and democratic senator he calls pocahontas. and the offhand remark on late night tv that could turn into a debate with bernie sanders. and vice presidential

possibilities and secretary clinton strategy to defeat him in the fall. start with trump up plugged at a press conference, talking about many of those things after securing the nomination. >> i am very unhappy when i look at the world of radical islam, obama couldn't come up with a solution, number one, he is incompetent, the solution won't be there for him. we have no choice. it is not like gee, we are going to make the military stronger than ever before. problem debating bernie, he is going to lose, his system is rigged like our system is rigged. >> she seems to have made her job. >> pocahontas? she's as native american as i am, okay? that i will tell you. she's a woman that's been very ineffective other than she's got a big mouth. hillary clinton is worse than obama. she openly said i want to put coal miners out of business. wind is very expensive. if you go to various places in

california, wind is killing the eagles. you kill an eagle, they want to put you in jail five years, and the windmills of killing hundreds and hundreds of eagles. one of the most beautiful, treasured birds. killing them by the hundreds and nothing happens. >> that was donald trump earlier today in bismarck, in other words where we find cnn's jim acosta. so donald trump certainly not tempering attacks on hillary clinton or elizabeth warren. what's the latest tonight? >> reporter: not at all, anderson. as for hillary clinton, donald trump took note of the fact that the pundits and political experts were predicting his convention in cleveland would be the one messy and contested and he was delighting in the fact that now it is hillary clinton that has a fight on her hands, he says she can't close the deal. as for elizabeth warren, you heard in the sound mash up that he referred to the senator as pocahontas. i was in the press conference,

it was at that moment a native american reporter shouted from behind me that's offensive. she took offense to that comment. donald trump later said about e elizabeth warren, if he would be open to debating the massachusetts senator. in addition to hillary clinton in the fall, he is open to debating bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. >> and the rally in montana just wrapped up, anything particularly jump out at you? >> reporter: yeah. there was one comment that donald trump made that goes to show you he is fully of confidence right now. he said at one point he doesn't want that wall that he wants to build on the mexican border to be named after him. he would rather have his own statue in washington, d.c., he was joking. he said he would be happy to share one with thomas jefferson. we were in the dakotas, it is surprising he didn't make a claim for mount rushmore.

i guess there are five months to go. >> long time. thanks. dealing with elizabeth warren or the latina governor of new mexico, bernie sanders, eagles, you name it, a lot to talk about. joining usance he will wrie, strategist, maria car donna andres bauer, stewart stevens, and amanda carpenter. andres, welcome to the program. you hear donald trump, you hear a reporter yell that's offensive. is that appropriate for donald trump to be calling elizabeth warren pocahontas, native americans say that's offensive to do? >> clearly not how i would conduct business. i have been a presidential nominee, he has gotten further

than -- i can't question what he is doing, it is working for him. >> there's stuff that works, but does it work as a president? would it be appropriate for president trump? >> anderson i would have thought by now he would have gotten more moderate. the frustration level is out there, he probably understands the temperament of the folks. johnny lunch bucket is what i call that. not a republican, not a democrat, watches your show, and is frustrated, looking for answers, and someone that has backbone which trump does. most politicians say whatever it takes to not offend anybody, court that fine line. he said i am going to own what i believe. if you don't believe that, south carolina, the evangelical community voted for him. which shocked me. middle of february, it was early on. those folks said there's a bigger picture, we're not going to pick a single issue candidate this time, the nation is at a point we need somebody that has

backbone, so i think people are refreshed by it. >> stewart, yesterday you were talking about him going after the latina governor of new mexico, republican, made no strategic sense. does it make sense to go after elizabeth warren. >> i don't know what he gets out of it. it is offensive that he calls her pocahontas. america was founded on a melting pot, there are native americans. donald trump wrote a book claiming is swedish and he is german ancestry. anyone has claim to not owning up to their heritage, it is donald trump. if you're in the eighth grade or something and call someone else pocahontas, a teacher says don't do that. >> if you're ceo of a company. >> if you're ceo of a company, you would be fired. i think one of the greatest dangers of donald trump is the idea that he might normalize a

speech and an attitude that as a group in america we have decided is unacceptable. and it is not about being politically incorrect, it is about being rude and offensive. >> that's what's interesting. now he's sort of labeled, any time you challenge him on saying something, you're a slave to political correctness, which it does sort of -- it is an effective argument among his supporters to cancel out any speech which is offensive to large populations of americans. >> he delights in labeling people. there's something really interesting going on the way he is going after elizabeth warre , susana martinez. even though he is the republican nominee, he doesn't care about party labels at all. you see him going and blasting the republican governor of new mexico, blasting whoever it is at any given point in time.

he is forging a new path forward and i think it is intentional that he throws out pocahontas so we are distracted by what he is doing, how he is campaigning. look at the press conference. aside from pocahontas, it was the most presidential he has been. he stood there, took a number of questions on energy policy. he strangely said he thought the united states government should get a cut in profits of the keystone pipeline. this is an idea i don't think anyone proposed, doesn't belong to any party. we should look at the policies he is proposing. slowly he is slipping in and doing it. we are hung up on pocahontas, but i want to pay more attention to the policy. >> david, he has now clinched the nomination, a milestone. >> if i told you a year ago we would be sitting here and he will have clinched the nomination and hillary clinton would have her nomination fight going on, i don't think anyone would have believed that. amanda, i hear what you're saying, i agree he forged a new

path. yet he has been spending the last few weeks as the presumptive nominee trying to piece together sort of every faction of the coalition, meeting with evangelical leaders, reaching out to henry kit in injury for national security credentials, he spent time in trump tower trying to get people on board that are reluctant thus far to come on board. he realizes consolidating the republican party since he is the nominee of the party is critical and i think it is seeing that consolidation in the polls has him in a competitive position. >> i think he is building relationships with people. they're not necessarily based on any policies. we are promised he will give these speeches on judicial nomination nations, he didn't do that, it was sent out by other republican lawyers that were later said to be just suggestions. he is not making any promises but it is a big deal he is holding these meetings. >> the idea of trump, sanders debate, jimmy kimmel asked donald trump about it, i don't

know if it caught him by surprised, he seemed open to the idea, donate to charity, ratings would be huge. the campaign saying it was more of a joke. bernie sanders seemed to embrace the idea, would like to make it happen before california. if it did happen, big if, would that hurt clinton? would it sideline her? >> i don't think it would, but more importantly i don't think it's going to happen. can we believe anything that donald trump says? he says he would do this debate, he wants $10 million for it, is cnn putting up $10 million? i don't know of any network or organization that would do that, but i think more importantly it focuses on the frivolous nature of things that donald trump puts out there, and he does it i agree to distract us because i think it is a distract without any real policy proposals to put out there and to, he has been on the attack for elizabeth warren,

to hillary clinton certainly. he has not proven he can meet her on the battlefield of ideas. i don't think this is not having backbone, andres, i appreciate that you are not out there completely defending these obviously offensive remarks. this is being a bully. point blank. and that's very simple. i think a lot of americans understand they have a choice to make. the problem that donald trump now, even though he is consolidating republicans, he is going to have to do a lot more to win the election. he is going to have to do more in terms of getting support from all of the demographics. >> andres, are you concerned as a trump supporter about the lack of specificity on a lot of his ideas? we have been talking about this obviously from long ago, but a lot of things donald trump talks about are the same things he is talking about, building a wall, do great things for the vets, build the military stronger than

it has been. there are not a lot of specifics. in the race are you concerned there's never going to be a lot more specifics? >> i think he is reading the tea leaves brilliantly. he doesn't have to use ammuniti ammunition. >> i am not saying it is smart in terms of running a race, i am wondering as an actual person that could be president, does it concern you? >> we're all going to know where he stands or it will be defined. we have a long time before the election. we don't even know who his opponent is yet. to throw it up, using media time when you have him on every hour on the hour, why would he give out nuggets of what he intends to do so they can be challenged when he can save them until fall. >> what is donald trump most noted for? >> a ban on all nonamerican muslims coming to the united states. that's a religious test to enter the united states. muslims are one quarter of the

world, but it is not just muslims, you have to prove you're not a muslim. you stand at heathrow and it is the most fundamentally unamerican idea and absurd and get mexico to pay for a wall. is there anybody that believes mexico is going to pay for the wall, i'd like them to stand up. it is an absurd idea. >> i want to get angela in. having heard how donald trump sees the world, we look closer at how the world sees donald trump. president obama claims he is rattling world leaders. is that true? we will look at that. later, polling that hillary clinton could lock up the nomination at the same time she loses a primary to bernie sanders. americans...

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welcome back. before donald trump locked up the republican nomination, people were trying on president trump for size to see what the leading global ambassador would be. the g7 in japan, the current office holder weighed in. >> they're rattled by him and for good reason. he does a lot of proposals that

he's made display either ignorance of world affairs or a cavalier attitude or an interest in getting tweets and headlines instead of making sure what it is is required to keep america safe and secure and prosperous and what's required to keep the world on an even keel. >> donald trump did not let that go up answered. >> when you rattle someone, that's good because many of the world as you know, many of the countries in our world, a beautiful world, have been absolutely abusing us, taking advantage of us. if they're rattled in a good way, we're going to have friendly relationships.

>> is it really? >> reporter: at first candidate trump was the subject of international fascination and amusement. but it didn't take long for the maverick contender to ruffle feathers. >> they're bringing drugs, crime, they're rapists. donald trump is calling for a shutdown of muslims entering the united states. >> reporter: international condemnation came in thick and fast, comparing him to hitler. a saudi prince called him a disgrace, china's state run newspaper denounced him as big mouth. the list went on. international headlines warned of impending doom if he became the republican nominee. madness blared the court and jury of a german paper. >> i think his remarks of divisive, stupid and wrong, and i think if he came to visit our country, it would unite us all

against him. >> reporter: today london's newly elected mayor, a muslim, jumped on the band wagon calling his views ignorant. >> his views of islam are ignorant. he is playing into the extremist plans by saying western values are incompatible with islam. >> thank you, everybody. >> reporter: still, he has one fan internationally, russian president vladimir putin who called trump an outstanding, talented personality. what's interesting, since trump became the presumptive nominee, the rhetoric overseas has softened considerably and we're likely to see that continue as world leaders begin to grapple with the real possibility, anderson, that they have to deal with a president trump. >> thanks very much. more on that process and no amount of adaptation, changes,

one fact, the world hasn't seen an american presidential candidate like this one. back with our panel. angela, i can hear, i haven't checked twitter, trump supporters watching that pays say you know what, good. every time we hear der spiegel is upset, they say it is not a bad thing. >> to the point, today at his press conference it is good they would be rattled by his presidency. the reality of it for me, here we have a president that's a nobel peace prize winning harvard law, first black guy to do that. this brilliant, talented lawyer. and i just see all of what has been accomplished going down the tubes. it actually to me, i think we are the laughing stock of the world, the fact that this is the republican nominee, shame on the republican party. the fact this is someone that's getting all this attention in our country, shame on all of us.

and to that point, anderson, i have to go back to what we talked about before the break, this isn't about making johnny lunch bucket okay and comfortable in his ignorance and his bigotry, this is about when you are on a, literally global stage, reacting as a global citizen, you have every responsibility. a call to action to take people beyond their comfort zone where they are, that doesn't mean we don't address their fears and tell them legitimately some of the things they've gone through in this country are okay, but we propaganda push, allow people to sit where they are, blame other folks that aren't responsible for their conditions. responsibility of a commander in chief is to soften them with a way it makes a policy agenda, and he can't do that. >> i can take it the rest of the time. first off, last time i checked,

most countries around the world don't respect us the last eight years we had. we're not winning a popularity contest. >> where do you see that? a lot of polls i have seen globally show the u.s. has improved. >> that's not what i see. and not when i traveled. but i would tell you this, maybe they're fearful because the money train may end, being world peace keeper may end, maybe there's a different approach, we're not looking for love from every country, we're looking for respect. it is time they respect someone that has policed the world, spent so many tax dollars from their citizens and maybe should have been spending them here, the talking heads and media still don't get it. that's why the average johnny lunch bucket is frustrated, that's why they see hope in donald trump. >> and let me bridge the gap here. i think there's a feeling in america that the world is a more dangerous place for americans. and a lot of that has to do with actions by the obama

administration, that certainly can be debated among everyone, but rise of radical islamic terrorism is a big deal. donald trump comes in, i am a strong person, people like that strength and are attracted to that. when donald trump is upsetting our allies and koezying up to those that are a threat to the united states like putin, that's a cause for uncertainty. nothing is more important than a u.s. president communicating stability to people that should be our friends. that's what makes donald trump dangerous. yes, strength is great, but you don't know what he is being strong for. >> even his own campaign doesn't know what he is strong for. paul manafort said he talked about the muslim ban on the outside, it was an initial thing. he is going to come in. donald trump is saying i am not coming in, muslim ban is still on the table. he doesn't even know what he is strong on or about. >> at the root of this is sort

of grievance mongering that donald trump does, the sense that america is being taken advantage of by the world. look, i'm a critic of president obama. but america is the richest country in the world, we're the most successful country in the world and we have become that by interacting with the world. if you go to france, if you go to germany, japan, you'll find a lot of americans who died helping make the world better because we have a sense we have to be part of the world. america is respected for that, and for donald trump to take pride in rattling other nations, you're right. america, an unstable america and unstable american president is not a positive thing for americans. >> i think that that actually focuses on the image of who is this guy going to be as president, more like a dictator than president. it is interesting he criticized

president obama calling him incompetent when president obama's approval ratings are in the 50s, higher than ronald reagan at this point of his presidency. the other thing is the criticism of donald trump's foreign policy proposals are not just coming from partisans, they are coming from robert gates and chief of homeland security, from many republicans that really do understand the nature of global policy, diplomacy, and the fact we're only 5% of the world and we need to interact with the world with the other 95%. >> a scathing report by the inspector general but hillary clinton's e-mail practices back in the spotlight. could the report widen the trust gap she already faces with voters. plus what's at stake in california, bernie sanders, the biggest prize left. john king breaks it down ahead. hmmmmmm.....

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a critical report from the state department inspector general. she failed to inform staff about use of a private server. secretary clinton long maintained she had permission to use e-mail and fully cooperated with investigators. the report found that clinton and several staff declined to be interviewed for the investigation. couldn't come at a worse time for the campaign. she's in the thick of a campaign many thought was over and facing a trust gap in polls. here's dana bash. >> reporter: should a, would a, could a. sentiments any candidate is likely to say on the campaign trail. >> as i've said many times, if i could go back, i would do it differently. i know people have concerns about this. i understand that. >> reporter: yet for hillary clinton, this week's state department inspector general report about how she mishandled e-mails as secretary of state could be especially damaging,

beating a central liability with voters, honesty and trustworthiness. >> would you vote for someone they don't trust? >> people should and do trust me. >> reporter: through the democratic primary contests, voters who said the most important quality was trustworthiness only voted for clinton in three states. >> i do question her judgment. >> reporter: it is a have you nerability bernie sanders worked hard to exploit, maybe not so much about her e-mail issue but he spent months accusing clinton of being in the pocket of big business and wall street. her refusal to release transcripts of paid speeches to goldman, sachs hasn't happened. >> i have said look, there are certain expectations when you run for president. this is a new one. >> reporter: the state department damning report gives donald trump a fresh round of ammunition. >> as i say, crooked hillary,

crooked hillary. she's as crooked as they come. >> reporter: assuming clinton is the democratic nominee, she already knows trump's play book. >> bad judgment, skirting on the edge all the time, and look back at her history, this is her history. >> reporter: people's views of trump are the same, 64% say he is not honest and trustworthy either. >> running against donald trump. will hillary clinton have a big disadvantage if voters don't see her as honest and trustworthy or will it matter? >> most polling, they run about evenly. it is sort of a wash. neither one is seen as having an edge there. >> reporter: still, the most likely test for november will be which argument wins, this one. >> if crooked hillary clinton is in charge, things will get much worse. >> reporter: or this. >> i think voters are going to be looking at the full picture of what i have to offer, my life and my service, and the full

threat that donald trump offers our country. >> reporter: dana bash, cnn, washington. >> the final super tuesday less than two weeks away, biggest prize, 475 democratic delegates. hillary clinton and bernie sanders are locked in a tight race. the stakes are high. john king to break it down by the numbers at the wall. >> the democratic race, if you're bernie sanders you're encouraged in some ways, i will get to the reasons why not so much in a minute. statewide survey, among likely democratic voters, 46% for clinton, 44% for sanders. some other polls have her further ahead than that. if you look at this, you're bernie sanders, you're like i have a chance to win in california. why is this happening? we have a gender split, men for senator sanders, women for secretary clinton, and we have seen this throughout the democratic primaries, the age thing. younger voters overwhelmingly for senator sanders and older voters by a healthy margin for

secretary clinton. you have an age dynamic, man woman dynamic. at the moment, senator sanders is in contention if the poll is to believed. even if he wins 50%, is that enough. his name thing, he wants to end with a big win for the convention and hopes for the miracle. >> her delegate lead is insurmountable, can she afford to lose california? >> can she, yes, but it is the point. go back in time, look at this. this is another state she won in 2008 when she had momentum at the end, like senator sanders is trying to get now. it is embarrassing to lose a state you won before. what does she do about it. this is interesting, clinton campaign went back on the air this week. senator sanders spent $1.5 million. it looks like a lot of money. in california, it is peanuts, if you run a statewide ad campaign, costs more. keep an eye on this. we have ten days to get to the

california primary. let's see how much more she spends. to your point, can she afford to lose it, yes. does she want to for point of pride heading into the convention, absolutely not. >> if sanders, i think i know the answer, if sanders wins in california, can he catch her? >> he needs 70% of remaining delegates. switch maps. he needs 70% of remaining delegates. is it conceivable bernie sanders could win? montana, gives it to him, 55, 45. could he win montana? maybe. could he win in dakota. make him first, her second. he is moving in here. in new jersey secretary clinton is favored, that's a big contest. new jersey and california have a big basket of delegates. she's leading there, if sanders wins, new mexico, i give that to bernie sanders. if this happens, jitters in the democratic party is that she's

losing and math in the race is ahead, even if he wins by that margin by a couple of points, comes back and gets her. even 55, 45, he doesn't catch up. what is this about? can bernie sanders win california with 70%? i think not. but he wants to win bias big a margin as possible, the dream. he wants to hold out hope. the math is possible put a miracle. >> john king, thanks very much. is hillary clinton changing her play book, maybe taking a page from trump. sharp jabs today. no one speed... no one way of driving on each and every road. but there is one car that can conquer them all. the mercedes-benz c-class. five driving modes let you customize the steering, shift points, and suspension to fit the mood you're in... and the road you're on.

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as we have been talking about, a milestone day for donald trump reaching the number of delegates. he was taking swings at democratic for an update hillary clinton. >> we were supposed to be going into july and a lot of people said it wouldn't even be solved during the convention, there will be a new convention in august, here i am watching hillary fight and she can't

close the deal, and that should be such an easy deal to close, but she's unable to close the deal. >> she fired back. >> donald trump says outrageous things all the time, but today he officially clinched the republican nomination, so this is now as real as it gets and this man who is an update unqualified loose cannon is within reach of the most important job in the world. >> back with the panel, talk radio host bill press who supports bernie sanders. interesting, bill, to hear secretary clinton calling in, that's taking a page from donald trump's play book, she started doing it a couple months ago, called into cnn, first time i knew she had done it, and then she has done it subsequently. but it's a smart move for her? >> it is only fair donald trump gets to call in. >> no doubt about it. in the past it wasn't a question

of cnn not wanting her to call in, it was her not calling in. >> no. i think it shows that they're taking trump seriously, going all out, she will be doing more interviews and free media. i doubt no matter how hard she tries she will be able to keep up on free media, that's clearly a new direction for the clinton campaign. >> as a clinton supporters, do you like seeing that? >> i loved that. when i saw that today, i have been a huge fan of the strategy of let's unleash her. i think when she's doing the interviews people really see her for who she is and the criticism that she has been so careful, she seems inauthentic, so cautious, i think today you're seeing the new page in the strategy of -- >> things she said which turn out not to be the case. she said today, she knew past secretaries of state used

personal e-mail. maybe that's true, but in this report she didn't seek permission, she says she thought it was allowed, and secretary of state didn't use personal e-mail exclusively. >> i think the most important thing she said about the ig report, she apologized for having set up the private server, she apologized for it, said it was a mistake. i think the american people are forgiving. she also put it in context, did say predecessors did use it as well. she said that the regulations were nebulous as best. this was a procedural -- >> but david. >> not about national security. >> in the past said she has done everything possible to cooperate, this report says she didn't. she refused to cooperate, to be interviewed as did members of her staff. >> her campaign says they're waiting for the fbi investigation. what she hasn't confronted since the report came out, she clearly said many times in the course of

the last year she did nothing wrong, everything was above board. the ig report negates that. says that's not the case. this is the other point about today, why she strategically called in from an analysis point of view, she's been making her campaign of late, anderson, about defeating donald trump. gone is driving the message of the day about what her issues and what she's campaigning on and it is all about driving a media message about her trying to take down donald trump and a, you want to do that to define the opponent in the general election. b, she thinks it distracts from the e-mail issue. >> interesting. secretary clinton said the idea of trump and sanders debating is not a serious discussion. the idea of trump debating sanders, he has it seems and perhaps smartly tried to reach

out to potential bernie sanders supporters that might go to trump. if he debated sanders, wouldn't that negate that? >> it would be great. you play nice, debate -- >> you don't think he would take a hard shot -- >> he knows he is not going to be his opponent. go in there and be respectful of your opponent and you may pick up some of his voters in the process. >> which debates did you watch? >> i think you should be the nominee, you would handle it that way. the problem with donald trump is he has irresistible impulses that he can't resist, like attacking susana martinez. what is mind boggling to us who spent the '90s trying to beat the clintons when donald trump was defending the clintons, the idea the race will be sort of a reunion of donald trump's last

wedding that they went to, two wealthy new yorkers running against each other, it is absolutely mind boggling that there's not going to be a strong conservative choice out there articulating what differences have been between the republican party and democratic party. >> and angela, how weakened, we talked with john king, is secretary clinton if bernie sanders wins california? >> i don't think much. i think the reality is the numbers are on her side. it is more than an uphill battle for bernie sanders. the longer he stays in, the better he does, the more leverage he has when it comes convention time. he already had i would say a marginal win with the platform committee, being able to ensure he has representatives there. he has supporters that didn't count against his numbers who will be part of the platform committee. all of that is positive. going back to the debate quick, though, people are blowing this off all day, i don't know if folks missed donald trump's

press conference where he said maybe for $10 million, this could be like a pay per view thing, anderson. i think andres watched the town hall. donald trump was very nice on your town halls, he has not been so nice in the debates. >> anderson, real quick. i want to weigh in on the california primary. i disagree a bit. i don't think hillary can afford to lose california. the superdelegates, if all of this stuff is going on and on top of that he wins california, superdelegates, john used the word jitters. they'll be nervous. >> want to thank everyone. cnn original series, 'the 80s, should be the '90s, this week looking at '80s music. gene simmons joins us next. allergies distracting you?

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since, kiss. co-founder, bass player gene simmons joins me now. great to have you back. let's talk about the eighties. you decided to remove the makeup the bond had worn, it was a huge deal. you said at the time it felt good. were you nervous, worried how fans would react? >> i was scared to death. i mean, we started off defying the odds. we decided to put together the band we never saw on stage. we were four knuckleheads off the streets of new york who didn't have a clue what marketing was, what it all meant and all that, we had this bizarre notion. and on day one, we put on the makeup that would become our trademark. here we are 42 years later, america's number one american gold record award winning group of all time. but during the eighties, it was a period of flux, nobody really knew what was going on. more and more bands played guitar became sort of heavy

metal big hair bands, bon jovis and so on. in my opinion fluff and sugar coating took the place of danger and in my opinion rock lost its soul. >> when you hear the term, i remember all my friends being in the kiss army. i was not cool enough to be drafted into the kiss army unfortunately, but when you hear the term eighties music, what does it mean to you, what do you think of when you hear that term. >> flux. it was a time lots of things were going on at the same place. for me, madonna was there, duran duran, she continues today, god bless her. prince was an anomaly, not since jimi hendrix had i witnessed anything that an artist has has the stage craft and ability to combine blues, soul, rock.

if prince was only a guitar player, lead guitar player in the band, everybody would say who is that kid, that guy has the goods. he was a multi instrumentalist, wrote his own stuff, did the whole thing. out of the eighties, rap, hip-hop became the big musical genre that continues today, but it was prince himself as a stand-alone musical person that defied all the definitions of what you were supposed to be. rock acts here and there and prince rode above all that stuff. an anomaly. >> still hard to believe he's gone, david bowie, so many people we lost, so many incredibly talented singers, musicians. gene simmons, great to talk to you always. thanks so much. appreciate it. >> duck face. >> thanks. >> cnn original series the eighties airs in a few minutes at the top of the hour. rock on. after the break, ken starr

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they are under fire for failure to respond to allegation are students being assaulted sometimes by football players. he will be the chancellor and teach at the law school. they also suspended the football coach and said they plan to fire him. cnn original series the eighties starts now. >> we will be doing for tv what fm did for radio. >> what are your dreams. >> to rule the world. >> michael jackson is the man of the '80s. >> music is all beat and talk. rap music. >> heavy metal, a glorified sex and violence that hates authority