you remember, he claims to have raised $6 million. trump says he's the only one to raise money and that this analysis is unfair. others say it's about delivering on a promise. the more critical disclosure for trump today is his internal playbook documents from trump university. those are also being unsealed today bep have the race for the white house covered the way only cnn can. let's start with senior washington correspondent joe johns. joe? >> reporter: good morning, chris. a huge crowd in california getting to see how quickly the secret service protection detail can spring into action after a few protestors from an animal rights group seeking to put a spotlight on its stance against agra business tried to rush the stage. it was all over in moments, but will be remembered as one more event in a strange and unpredictable presidential primary season. >> step away. right there, right there. >> reporter: dramatic moments at a bernie sanders rally in downtown oakland, california.

secret service agents jumping onstage, pulling the presidential candidate away from the microphone. at least four protestors leaped over barricades yelling and attempting to rush the podium. secret service detail quickly apprehending the individuals. one of the protestorsed appeared to be hit by a protestors baton while another was carried out of the venue by his arms and legs. taking responsibility for disrupting the event, the latest skirmish, one of several incidents this year causing the secret service to jump onstage. commotion breaks out at a trump rally in ohio in march, when a protestors tried to rush the stage. >> i was ready. i don't know if i would have done well, but i would have been out there fighting, folks. >> reporter: and in april, trump's motorcade stopping along the highway in california an protestors blocked the hotel entrance where a gop convention

was being held, forcing the republican candidate to exit his vehicle and cross the freeway on foot. [ chanting ] >> reporter: sanders uninjured and seemingly unfazed by this incident. >> we don't get intimidated easily. >> reporter: the senator cheering on the golden state warriors later in the night, continuing to barnstorm california. >> does this guarantee me the california primary? >> reporter: before june 7th, delegate-rich primary in the state, his attempt to rest the democratic nomination from hillary clinton. bernie sanders got his secret service detail all the way back in february when the primary season was just getting started. at that time aides said privately the candidate reluctantly asked for and accepted the protection. chris? >> thank you very much, joe. today is potentially good news/bad news day for donald trump. today is the day he'll tell us how many veterans charities benefited from the millions he

raised back in january, but it is also the day that internal documents from the trump university fraud lawsuit are we being unsealed by a judge. what will they tell the rest of us? cnn's sara murray is live in washington with what we expect to learn. what do you got? >> reporter: good morning, chris. a day of transparency for donald trump, some by his own volition and some by a court order as you explained. trump will set the record straight how much money he raised for vets and wra exactly that money went. he skilled a fox debate to hold this fund-raiser instead, ever since, dogged him how much money raised. about $3 million and as well as 1 $1 million himself. he will lay out which groups are benefiting from this and slamming the press for the

scrutiny he's gotten from this. his other brush with transparency, trick cher, coming after court order. after a judge presiding over the trump university case directed a number of documents be unsealed. we'll expecting these documents to give a better idea how these course was run and as well as how they were sold to consumers. consumers paid tens of thousands for real estate courses and thought they were defrauded. donald trump says he could have settled this at any moment and last week went so far as to attack the judge presiding over the case. trump university was shuddered in 2011. they'll look four any sign that trump is a billionaire pwho preyed upon citizens. stay with us. a lot to talk about. host of the david gregory show podcast, david gregory, and senior politics editor of the "daily beast" jackie kucinich.

talk with what's going to happen at 11:00 a.m., that donald trump will explain what happened at his fund-raiser for the vets. not talking about trump university yet. just the vets. the night it happened he said they raised $6 million. then over the next, previous, the last four months, they had a hard time producing that and explaining where it went. jackie, what are the chances that donald trump has something up his sleeve and today he'll come out and say, you're right. we didn't raise $6 million. we raised $8. . s something like that to put it to rest? >> could be like a publish er clearing house check or something like that. no one in his camp could verify in the last six months. we told it wasn't high on his

priority list where this money was. corey loon douewendowski, somet like $4.5 million in another publication. the damage may already be done with people already skeptical with trump the record with veterans. we'll wait and see. he's been known to turn things in his favor before. why should we think differently today? >> sure. >> david, as you know, cnn's had a lot of the spotlight on this. we've been asking about the money early and often. drew griffin did a couple forensic-type looks what can you figure from the campaign side and trump doesn't like it. saying this isn't fair. the only that raised money and you're all over him because it's trump. pushback is, it's not true. you just want to see what was done and a little about delivering on the promise, but how to you see the plus/minus on this. >> and transparency. trump is a guy known to tell it like it is but doesn't like to

show and tell. that comes to his tax records and tax returns and what his wealth actually is, what his contributions actually are. this is about how they organizes, what kind of organization he puts together, how he balances the books and ultimately does he make good on his promises? a candidate holding back financial information but makes huge claims about his business acumen and business record and in this case how he's supporting veterans. he has a blind spot. he'll draw more scrutiny. this is what it means to about presidential candidate, and it's interesting how he has to carve out time now from the beginning of the general election race to answer these kinds of queries to account for his own management style and recordkeeping. not what he expects to talk about, but there's very little he expects to talk about that he ultimately does. he tends to not necessarily follow a strategic path on the trail. >> something else interesting is

happening. at noon those documents related to trump university will be released. we believe the 2009 playbook, the 2010 playbook and by this they mean, i guess, the standards and practices and how they went about marketing and sales stuff. the field team playbook and seams playbook. so what do we think will be revealed today? >> i think obviously, how they sold these courses and a better sense what donald trump's role was in all of this. one of his secrets, while he puts his name on a lot of things, insists he'll be directly involved, whether real estate courses or buildings, a lot of time his name is involved but not he himself, the billionaire involved in that. you'll see a little of that and the political fallout, if there is any indication, anything for his opponents to seize on to say they were up-selling people who didn't have the means potentially misleading individuals, we will see if any of that is in the documents.

if you were in hillary clinton's camp now that is definitely what you're looking for. >> jackie, this is not about politics. this is about law. you have class action suits, you also have the new york attorney general that wants to take him to trial for fraud. i mean, this is different than just what we think about it. i mean, the numbers are impressive. $40 million. 10,000 people. these class actions, the trump people push back saying we can show you people in these class action suits who recanted. 12 out of thousands have done that. this is a legal matter, a big problem. what kind of legs can this have if he's not able to push off all of these trials until after the election? >> even with the specter of these trials, even if they are after the election it can be problematic for donald trump. you said it's not political but it is. just like some of the things going on with hillary clinton and the law are political. he needs to put this to pebed, t it doesn't like like he'll be able to yet.

most of the reviews were positive, but it came out, in fact, a lot of the people that took these courses were pressured to give them good reviews. so, really, this is a problem for donald trump and disparaging the judge in one of the cases is not something that's going to bode well for him. >> this is not a policy dispute, either. this is about, i think, whether donald trump is true to his word, or whether he's a phony. i think if his opponents, whether in this lawsuit or politically can cast him as a guy who's not everything he says he is, and in a sustained way that has the potential at least to undermine him among is a supporters and among those pool of persuadable voters he's going through. maybe not tried and true supporters but i think it's a personal characteristic issue and less a matter of debating policy where he seems to have been pretty tough to hurt. >> sara, one of the things interesting about this back and forth with the judge, the trump

people do say the judge is biased, anti-trump and that he's mexican. that was one of the first things that donald trump said about him, and yesterday i got into an exchange with katrina pierson, trump's spokesperson about that. she admitted basically she doesn't know if the judge is american. but that didn't stop them from saying that he was mex cache ic connecting him to la raza, the civil lawyers group protesting at some of trump's events. but trump is also in the la raza lawyers association. a part of that group. how they cloud the issue around the documents being released yorchlts think anyone looks at donald trump saying this is the guy who doesn't play it fast and loose with the facts. he sort of throws things out there and we've seen it throughout the campaign and then say, well, that's what i thought or that's what i heard. it's not me saying this, it was someone else. i do think that is a way for him to paint this as the book being

stacked against him that this is a judge against him in this case, that he's people don't have real complaints, and it is extremely rare. i mean, maybe unprecedented, to see a presidential candidate like this going after a federal judge, presiding over one of these lawsuits, but it is seem clear it's a way for donald trump to distract from the core issue. this is his business. one of his businesses. one of the things he touted on the trail why he's a great success and why he should be elected to the white house, he's had so much success in business. if there's a way to undermine that, it's an issue. >> donald trump would rather talk and be criticized for calling this judge mexican rather than talk about the substance of this suit. i guarantee it. >> at noon today, that might change. >> may start talking about the judge again, because it's a great distraction from what's going on in that lawsuit. >> we shall see. thank you very much to the panel. in the next hour, gary johnson will be here, the libertarian presidential party's nominee who joins us live on "new day." to growing outrage over the

death of the cincinnati zoo's silver back gorilla harambe. the zoo is defending its decision to save the child by killing the gorilla. many anti-rights activists say that decision should be questioned and the parents of are the boy that snuck into the enclosure should be held responsible. live from cincinnati, this is not going away. how is it continuing to exist? how is it making manifest there on the ground? >> yeah, chris, there is wide-ranging outrage online. hundreds of thousands of people signed a petition calling for those parents to be prosecuted, but the zoo director is saying that he refuses to lay any blame and he's stressing that the silver backed gorillas are extremely dangerous. >> we did not take the shooting of harambe lightly, but that child's life was in danger. >> reporter: the cincinnati zoo standing behind their call to kill the gorilla named harambe. >> oh, my god!

oh, my god -- >> reporter: after a 3-year-old boy fell roughly 10 feet into this moat saturday coming face-to-face with the 450 pound 17-year-old silver back. >> this child was being dragged around. his head was banging on concrete. this was not a gentle thing. >> reporter: outrage congretinu to grow over the decision to shoot. a petition online garnering nearly 300,000 signatures demanding authorities investigate the little boy's parents for not watching their child. the #justiceforharambe on twitter and don't take your kids to the zoo if you're not able to keep your eyes on them at all times, one writes. and some questioning the surroundings breached. officials who claim the rails and wires the boy crawled through meet all safety requirements and have been in use for 38 years without incident. >> you can lock your car, you can lock your house, but if somebody really wants to get in, they can. >> reporter: the child's parents

thanking the zoo in a statement saying we know think was a very difficult decision for them and they are grieving the loss of their gorilla. one of harambe's former caretakers emotional when recounting the silver back's fate. >> he was in a situation where, there's this strange thing here that i don't know -- what do i do? and do i fight it? do i love it? do i run from it? what do i do? and an unforeseen circumstance was born and he had to lose. >> reporter: and so far no charges have been filed against the parents. the zoo, meanwhile, says it will continue to breed gorillas. in fact, they say harambe's sperm has been saved and there have already been numerous requests for samples. alisyn? >> jessica, we'll talk more about this throughout the entire program. thank you for that. first, breaking news for you overnight. northern taiwan rattled by a strong earthquake. 6.1 magnitude hours ago, enough

to shake office buildings in the capital city of taipei. schools evacuated. you can see here these schoolkids outside covering their heads. so far no reports of injuries or significant damage. north korea's latest attempt to launch a missile looks like a fair failure. according to south korea's military, the north's medium-range missiles are supposed to be able to reach japan and u.s. military bases in the pacific, but in a string of high-profile officials for ruler kim jong-un, pyongyang now tried four times to launch one of these missiles with no success. the florida highway patrol investigating this apparent case of road rage you're about to see. the driver of the silver car, aye-yi-yi, running over a motorcycle, carrying two people. fellow driver started recording after the car cut the motorcycle off, he says, and an argument ensued. the unidentified driver of the silver car was pulled over and arrested. minutes later the two on that

motorcycle were taken to the hospital but should be okay. >> charge there's to get very heavy on the driver of that car. >> see it all the time. people need to somehow control their anger on the road. back to growing outrage over the shooting death of that gorilla at the zoo. here's the question -- do you think the gorilla posed an eminent threat to that little boy who was 3, not 4, by the way. there's that question. and then the question of how does that go to the safety of the zoo and also the parenting involveda closer look at all of these questions, next.

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naturally, we did not take the shooting of harambe lightly, but that child's life was in danger, and people who question that, who are our monday morning quarterbacks or second guessers don't understand that you can't take a risk with a silver back gorilla. >> well, that's the director of

the cincinnati zoo defending the decision to kill a rare gorilla to save a boy who had slipped into its enclosure. some critics believe the gorilla's death could have been prevented and many blame the boy's mother. and joining us, an animal expert and a legal analyst who wrote about this issue for cnn.com. check it out online. thanks to both of you for being here. mel, start with you. as of this morning, there are 300,000 signatures to an online petition of people calling for an investigation into the home environment of that little boy. as a lawyer, because i know you also write as a mother on this, but as a lawyer, can that happen? >> you know, not on the facts as we have them, alisyn. i mean what you're looking at is people who are rightfully upset and angry over this tragedy, and are looking for somebody to blame. so why not just sound off on a petition? but are they going to

investigate the home life based on the facts as we know them? absolutely not. >> jeff, part of why people are so angry is because we're showing the part where the gorilla dragged the boy like a rag doll through the moat. however, there were also parts that witnesses say where it looked like harambe was protecting the little boy. he was standing over him. he pulled up his pants, the boy's little shorts at one point. he was holding his hand at one point and that makes the witnesses think maybe he was going to take care of him and not hurt him? >> well, this was an incredible chaotic situation and, of course, we get to monday morning quarterback the scenario and look at moments and piece the story together, but this is an incredibly powerful creature, through no fault of its own found himself in a precarious and highly chaotic situation. we need to keep in mind about

these gorillas, like human beings, these are primates with incredibly complex, diverse emotions and in a stressful environment like this, anything is possible. the other thing we need to remember, incredibly powerful creature. 400 pounds. easily eight times stronger than someonebuilt like myself. >> in fact, the director of the cincinnati zoo yesterday made an analogy that i think really brings home just how powerful an erratic gorilla can be in a situation like this. listen to what he said yesterday. >> this is a dangerous animal. now, i know you've seen photos, videos, gosh, he doesn't seem dangerous. we're talking about an animal with one hand that i've seen take a coconut and crunch it. he was disoriented. he'd nerve her anything like that going on. and that also led to the decision, of course, not to dart the animal.

>> he can crush a coconut, mel, with one hand, in a split second. so they decided not to use the tranquilizer dart. in your mind, mel is there anything else, any other way they could have ended this scenario rather than killing the gorilla? >> you know, not -- a couple things. first of all, people have to remember, let's think about the alternative. say they did try one of these crazy things i've heard people say, like lure the gorilla away from the boy with his favorite piece of fruit. >> but stop you one second there, because there were two female gorillas in this enclosure and zookeepers were able to lure them out of the enclosure after the boy went in. so they did use, they tried to use what was at their disposal. >> but the female gorillas hadn't been alerted to the boy yet. they were taken out, and they weren't even interacting with the little boy. totally different scenario. imagine if the zoo had tried to

tranquilize the gorilla and it didn't work right away and it agitated the gorilla and the gorilla killed the little boy. you know what? the zoo is strictly liable for the actions of that animal, when they start making decisions about how to control it. they did the only thing that they could do, which was to basically protect the little boy's life, and it was a tragic choice that they had to make, alisyn. i don't see any alternative here. >> the alternative of, the scenario you're painting, would have been so much worse for the witnesses to watch something so unthinkable happen to that little boy, but, jeff, you made a great point yesterday when we talked to you and i want to-of-you to reiterate it. zoos are not baby-sitters and made the point, we go to the zoo, this all playful no harm can ever happen. do you blame the parents at all for taking their eye off this 3-year-old and somehow he got into this -- i mean, he went through sort of three different gates of an electric fence, of a

moat, you know, a guardrail, for him getting in? >> i think -- i think that's something we need to explore, before we get into that, but to touch on what mel had said -- they had tried all of those options before they came to this last-case scenario and regarding that tranquilizer dart, remember, they're trying to emobilize an animal that weighs 400 pounds that is agitated, that has adrenaline, you know, again, through no fault of its own, through its system, and if that had not worked perfectly it would have been absolutely even more disastrous and catastrophic. the other thing, too, to keep in mind, when you deliver one of these sedatives, these tranquilizers, it's not instantaneous. it can take 10 to 15 minutes, and what if they had missed and hit the child with that tranquilizer dart? do you think that child could have survived a dose of sedative designed for a 400-pound

creature? >> right. >> so now to answer your other question. >> quickly. >> i don't think we can blame the parent. we can't blame the parent here. i'm a parent. i've lost my kids in the supermarket, but yet we do have a responsibility when we're in these places, whether at a zoo or a national park, they're your kids, and you need to keep an eye on them and make sure they have a rewarding, enriched experience and not a catastrophe like this. >> great reminder. thank you both for all of your perspective on this this morning. we'll talk about it throughout the show later. chris? a very different story in the news as well. the nba finals are not set. our "bleacher report" has the outcome of the amazing game between the warriors and the thunder, and the finals matchup predictions, next. question, are my teeth yellow?

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corker, gingrich, fallon, sessions and ernst. jackie, who pops up to you on that list as more and less likely? >> it's hard to say, because we don't know donald trump's thinking. however -- >> you have to say, jackie. it's the whole point of the segment. >> i think bob corker is someone he's met with recently. he brings foreign policy experience, he brings experience in washington. that could be good for the trump ticket. also, someone like a joni ernst would be a very interesting pick for trump. not only from iowa, a swing state, she's also the first female combat veteran to serve in the senate, and i believe she's still active duty. so that would also be someone who would add diversity and some other interesting attributes to that ticket. >> david, i'd like to add a name to that list from my well-placed d.c. insider sources who say that the trump camp is putting the full-court press on condoleezza rice and they would really like her to consider it as well. obviously, that's complicated.

she's friends with the bush family. what do you think of that list, plus the aden ddenduaddendum? >> i would be shocked if condoleezza rice would put hers on that list, let me just say, but i do think a conservative woman would be a very smart pick for donald trump. whenever any presidential candidate is making a choice for the running mate they're thinking, okay what is it that i don't have? what am i lacking that i want to make up for that this person can complement me with? you can look at it in terms of swing states in terms of demographics. i think if you're donald trump you want to reach that paul ryan conservative out there who is wavering about your candidacy and show a little more conventionality, a little bit more conservative credentials, and i think having a conservative woman makes sense. certainly having some kind of washington insider does make sense, what you don't need, if you're donald trump, somebody who's going to go on the attack. you probably got th covered.

>> take a look at the hillary clinton names. all up there. again, she's not the nominee yet, but here are names floated. sara, give me a little more and less likely when you look at these faces. >> well, i think senator elizabeth warren could also fall into both of those. less likely because she and clinton have had a prickly relationship but more likely in the sense that she could bring a lot of these former bernie folks onboard. she's really been seen as a middle-class champion and not afraid to go on the attack against donald trump and could be a real asset to the ticket in those ways, but like i said, you know, a lot of this is personal chemistry. you have to be really comfortable with someone and convinced someone is onyour side if running together on a ticket and i don't think the clinton camp is totally sold with that. >> two women. let me put it out there. do you think the country is ready for two women? >> i'd glad you bring that up.

>> because i get all the heat? >> no. because i think that's the female elephant in the room. i do think that if people are struggling whether or not the first female president can be elected, then an all-female ticket, jackie? >> that could be a factor here, but i think it's more likely what sara was talking about. about personal chemistry, about whether these two could, you know, work together in a way that would win the presidency. i think that's more likely than a gender consideration at this point. >> kbrout think personal chemistry is always the most important thing. there has to be some fit. there's no question, but, again, you're thinking what are your needs? if you're hillary clinton you have a democrat graphic and electoral map firewall in the industrial midwest. you think about a swing state like ohio trying to button up that area, or you think about, well if you're hillary clinton she's not a very dynamic campaigner. does she need somebody like cory booker to mix it up a little bit?

those are considerations. i think a guy like tim cane mka makes sense. virginia, tends to trend blue, outreach to hispanic, a lot of qualifications reaching out to white men in various elections all of which he's won, also somebody very strong. >> kaine is also the only person on that list that offers her a different perspective on democratic politics. you know, kaine when it comes to even like abortion, a big catholic. he moves the needle a little bit. >> does she need somebody more in the center? some people -- >> or to the left. >> more to the left. >> good point. >> what do you think about that, sara? >> yes. certainly if looking to pick up bernie sanders supporters it helps to have someone a little more to the left. i'm a little weary of the idea picking any one of these people helps you win a state. >> i would agree. >> give that a lot of play talking about the states, a lot of these different vp picks come from, but unless you're pickioh

on lockdown, i don't any anyone will winner you an ohio or virginia. >> if i could add another thing talking particularly about hillary clinton and donald trump, you can't -- trust is important. this candidate is going to have to trust this person who's going to the in the inner circle. i don't think that can be disregarded as well. >> great to get your insights into all of this. maybe bernie sanders? >> we don't even know his picks. >> right. we need to find out. >> we do. what do you think about names said that you think should? inside tips? tweet us or post your comment on facebook.com/newday. and former attorney general eric holder now praising edward snowden saying the ex is contractor performed a valuable public service by leaking government documents. so what does he want? snowden? to do now?

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most wanted was caught at the mexican border. los angeles police say philip patrick polocarpio was already on parole when he beat and shot his pregnant girlfriend last month. he was made a fugitive offered a $100,000 reward, border patrol picked him up trying to cross back into the u.s. from tijuana. praise for edward snowden from the u.s. attorney general. qualified. telling david axelrod on his podcast, he performed a "public service" by starting a national debate over government surveillance operations, but holder does still take issue with the way snowden illegally leaked classified documents and insists he must be held accountable standing trial in the u.s. it's back to business at the white house this morning after it was briefly on lockdown after someone threw a container over the north lawn fence on monday

afternoon. an explosive ordnance team was calmed in to investigate. turned out the object posed no threat. the president was inside the white house at the time. an unidentified woman was detained. and not the problem you think we're going to deal with. watch this. this taxi is going to come out of nowhere, hop the curb and slam into the main doors in the terminal at chicago o'hare the international airport. nobody got hurt. authorities say they don't know why it jumped the curb yet. they're still interviewing the driver, but it obviously went through the hall and caused a heck of a lot of damage. >> and i'm sure fear. >> yeah it did. but nobody was hurt. we can kind of save this with a little upturned corner of the mouth. >> very good. we're just a couple months out from the summer olympics in brazil but a host of doctors no not want the games held there. they went them kacampusaled or

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from a distance, rio de janeiro seems like a picture-perfect place to hold the summer olympics, but look a little closer, it is anything but at the moment. cnn's ivan watson goes there and shows us what's wrong as the worst possible time. >> reporter: it's hard not to be seduced by rio de janeiro. this city soon to be the host of the 2016 summer olympicstwo

months before the start of the games construction crews are putting in the final touches at the olympic venues. >> everything's going to be ready on time. we're going to deliver the park fully commissioned the 24th of july. >> reporter: despite rio's beauty, the city as a whole is facing daunting challenges. a series of unexpected setbacks leading some to wonder, are rio's olympics somehow cursed? just days ago a warning from more than 100 international doctors, calling for the games to be postponed or moved, because the mosquito-born zika virus could threaten an expected half a million foreign visitors. that view rejected by the world health organization, which does advise pregnant women to avoid the olympics entirely, because of the risk of severe deformities to unborn children. [ chanting ] and then there's the political and economic crisis. [ chanting ]

turmoil after congress suspended brazil's elected president in an impeachment process last month, and high-level corruption scandals. during the worst economic recession in generations, which has left more than 10 million brazilians unemployed. the economic hardship aggravating rio's endemic problems with violent crime. [ gunfire ] daily gun battles between police and drug gangs in the city's impoverished favellas as well as a surge in robberies. this week the sailing team mugged at gunpoint. >> we just turn around to see what was happening and we saw the pistols, like this. >> reporter: olympic sailors also worried about rio's notorious yi polluted bay. a dumping ground for much of the city's law sewage. >> we don't want to swim in it. >> reporter: rio's mayor warns,

this isn't a first-world city. >> don't come here expecting that everything will be perfect. we live in a country that has economic crisis, a country with lots of inequality. with all the problems we've seen concerns corruption, but the city will be much better than it was when we got the games. >> reporter: even one of the mayor's new infrastructure projects is now a deadly failure. this brand new spectacular cliff-side bike path was supposed to be a showcase project for the olympics. instead it became a tragic setback when the waves took out part of the trail, killing two people last month. in the turbulent run-up to the olympics, a virtual storm of bad news that leaves you wondering what could possibly happen next? ivan watson, cnn, rio de janeiro. >> wow. that spells it out. never seen it before.

following a lot of news for you this morning including the latest on the gorilla tragedy at the cincinnati zoo. so let's get right to it. step away. >> big security scare when protestors rushed the stage. >> we don't get intimidated easily. >> we just raised almost $6 million for the vets. the groups that have gotten the money will be announced. >> our message is the message for the future. >> when you think about the future you don't see donald trump's face. >> looking back, we would make the same decision. >> engine 32. the gorilla has a child. >> it's hard to get in the mind of this incredible primate. >> you have human life. you have animal life. they made the right decision. >> i was looking at the finish line. i was look in my mirror, finish line mirror. an unbelievable experience. >> the indy 500, baby! >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. good morning. welcome back to your "new day." we begin with bernie sanders who

was grabbed at the podium by secret service agents at rally in oakland. they had to shield him, the senator, because protestors were rushing the stage. the protestors were arrested, but who were they and why did they do it? answers ahead. also it is disclosure day for donald trump on two fronts. a judge orderig internal records from trump university to be unsealed today, and also trump's campaign promises to release all of the info on that veterans fund-raisers. which groups were the beneficiaries of money? you remember, trump claimed he raised $6 million. we have the race covered for you the way only cnn can. we want to begin with our senior washington correspondent joe johns. good morning, joe. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. a huge crowd in california getting to see how quickly the secret service protection detail can spring into action after a few protestors from an animal rights group seeking to put a spotlight on its stance against agra business tried to rush the stage, all over in a matter of

moments, but it will be remembered as one more event in a strange and unpredictable presidential primary season. >> reporter: dramatic moments at a bernie sanders rally in downtown oakland, california. secret service agents jumping onstage, pulling the presidential candidate away from the microphone. at least four protestors leaped over barricades yelling and attempting to rush the podium. secret service detail quickly apprehending the individuals. one of the protestors appeared to be hit by a security protector's baton, while another was carried out of the venue by his arms and legs. activists taking responsibility for bankrupting the event. the latest skirmish, one of several incidents this year causing the secret service to jump onstage. commotion breaks out at a trump

rally in ohio in march, when a protestors tried to rush the stage. >> i was ready. i don't know if i would have done well, but i would have been out there fighting, folks. >> reporter: and in april, trump's motorcade stopping along a highway in california, after protestors blocked the hotel entrance where a gop convention was being held, forcing the republican candidate to exit his vehicle and cross the freeway on foot. [ chanting "bernie!" ] >> reporter: sanders uninjured and seemingly unfazed by this incident. >> we don't get intimidated easily. >> reporter: the senator cheering on the golden state warriors later in the night, continuing to barnstorm california. >> does this guarantee me the california primary? >> reporter: before june 7th, delegate-rich primary in the state, his attempt to rest the democratic nomination from hillary clinton. for her part, democratic front-runner hillary clinton getting back into the grind after the holiday. she is still on the east coast today with fund-raisers in new

york and new jersey featuring former attorney general eric holder and senator cory booker of new jersey. she's expected to head back out to california on thursday. alisyn? >> joe, thank you very much. donald trump today expected to reveal details about the veterans fund-raiser held back in january an also internal documents from trump university will be unsealed in a few hours. cnn's sara murray with more on what we can expect today. hi, sara. >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. it a day of transparency for donald trump, some by choice and some under order of the court. now, donald trump is planning to set the record straight in a press conference today at trump tower about just what happened with that event he had to raise money for the veterans back when he skipped that fox news debate just ahead of the iowa caucuses. at the time he said he raised about $6 million. cnn confirmed around $4 million and dogged by press scrutiny about exactly how much he has raised and where that money is

going. he plans to clear that all up in this press conference today. now, his other brush with transparency today will be a little trickier. this is a judge who's overseeing the trump university fraud case who has ordered that a host of these documents related to the case be unsealed. these are documents that are going to give us a better idea of how these courses worked and also a better idea how they sold them to students. now, students who brought the case, some of them spent tens of thousands of dollars on these real estate courses saying they felt defrauded. meanwhile, trump has said a number of students gave positive reviews about the case. he said he could have settled it at any point and even went so far last week as to attack one of the jumps who is presiding over this case from the campaign trail going after him saying that this judge has a personal vendetta against donald trump, that he's a hater. even though trump university was closed in 2011 you can expect a number of his experts poring over documents looking for

anything they can use against him in the general election. back to you, chris. >> sara murray, teed up a great game to play called "should we care?" a lot of issues. which ones should matter to you and why. bring in margaret hoover and former george w. bush white house staff member john avalon. cnn political analyst, editor-in-chief of the "daily beast" and jeffrey lord. my man. trump supporter and former reagan white house political director. it's great to see you all here. so i am not joking. i think that there's so much out there, people have to decide what matters what doesn't, and why. let's start. the third-party scare by bill kristol. do we believe there is a mistress candidate that will be formidable and have a real shot? should we care? >> there's life still in it. right? that monty python thing saying, not dead yet. the dream's not dead yet. >> i think -- and -- >> hold on a second, jeffrey. >> jeffrey, you'll get your turn. i'm joking, jeffrey.

look, there are republicans, as you know, that will not vote for donald trump, and they will not vote for hillary clinton, and it doesn't matter. what we're going down the list, the problem is who. it's not going to be anybody we recognize insofar as a name. not mitt romney. >> if it's not anyone you ever heard of, can this person come in and be formidable? >> some would say in a year so unusual, could you have a social media campaign, a grass roots campaign, maybe a personality swell up around somebody. crazier things have happened. >> do you care? >> absolutely. as an independent, third-party challengers should be easier to get on the ballot, easier to challenge the duopoly, and 60% of americans want to see a third-party challenge. 44% identified independent. there's a need. the problem, finding that candidate. flailing around, already textas

ballot is off. north carolina looks rough. but 35 states in place in august and september raising the question, is the goal to win outright, barring some unpredictable x factor or the goal of these folks to block trump? there still may be time to do the latter. the former is difficult unless you get a candidate who is, can self-fund, has incredible high name i.d. to contrast with the two other candidates. >> so high none of us can figure who it is. jeffrey record, anything to add? >> if it's not margaret hoover i have no idea who they would get, to be perfectly candid. you know, at this point, any serious republican would be committing what i call, begun to call romneycide, over his father who refused to back the candidate, and his career rapidly went downhill. re-elected at governor of

michigan, presidential campaign tanked because of his goldwater antics. on nixon's ticket, would have made him president, as we know. that was more or less the end of this career. served nor a while in nixon's cabinet nap was it. i'm not sure anyone will want to take this on. >> jeffrey a softball, i'm more interested in the rationale for the answer you're about to give. what matters the movie st to yod why. what money trump gave to the vets. the lawsuits, including one from an attorney general for fraud from trump university, which is no longer able to be called a university. or the i.g. report from the state department about hillary clinton's e-mails? >> come on. >> i wonder. >> i said -- the "why" is going to be what matters. >>'s listen carefully. one, two -- okay. i'd say the i.g. report. >> but why? why? >> what? well -- for obvious reasons, because that concerns hillary

clinton and we get into the issues of her credibility, et cetera. i will say on the issue of trump university, i have a column in the "american spectator" going into some detail. i think that this whole issue is, this trial, et cetera is rigged. >> oh, come on. how is it rigged? >> how is it rigged? i think you've got a judge who identifies himself by race. who -- and you've got lawyers, liberal lawyers who are out there, hillary clinton supporters. barack obama supporters, democratic party supporters, who are out there to do in donald trump for political reasons, and that's why all of this. >> and he's just one player in this. has nothing to do with the attorney general's moves in new york. is that rigged also? it would all have to be rigged, all of these people, all of these class action suits? >> the attorney general in new york is a political player, who wanted money from donald trump and then his entire family and then as business associates. you know, i think he went to

michael cohen and not getting it, fast and -- >> i get your point. >> there's a reason that case does matter and gave that as a softball because we knew what the answer would be. >> rationale matters. >> sure. the trump university case matters it's yet another case where donald trump has been promiscuous with his name identifying organizations with little connection to him. selected professors, he didn't. revealing, however, that rant made against the judge friday. right? because it's awful nice, separation of powers you got. if anything happened to it -- calling out a judge in a political rally on racial grounds. questioning his honesty and integrity saying if i won president in november we'll handle this then. >> great distractions of merits. if i'm donald trump. people jump on him for bringing up ethnicity of this judge. i get why people think it's rock. but a lot better than talking about the merit to this fraud suit. >> right. and one other thing. republicans break down in three

groups. never trumpers, completely excited trumpers like jeffrey lord and then the people in between who are falling into line with trump that are deeply uneasy about it. they should take real pause at trump's behavior. they told themselves, maybe he'll learn on the job, get more displirned on the campaign trail, maybe be able to pull it together in lead the world. you seen this does not speak towards presidential behavior, going after a judge. >> in the republic, just not a republican. >> go to the rationale what jeffrey lord is bringing up. if this stays the carnival about zu absurd, who's the worst person? me or you? you would win that all day, but that's not the matchup. when you have that i.d. report hangi -- i.g. report hanging out there, until they prove is that the big hammer in this discussion? you can have your fraud trials

what trump says insulting everybody, seems to help with his base and maybe everybody else scratch their head, but is that the big hammer? >> the cloud, not sure the big hammer. the fiasco on her party, totally inflicted scandal as the clintons want to do, cast a shadow over her campaign. does it actually determine the votes of swing voters who might be undecided between hillary clinton and donald trump? i don't any so. what happens between donald trump and the i.g. that could be the big point. will it sway voters? i'm not sure yet. >> a satisfying version of, "should it matter?" jeffrey lord, thank you, love having you on, john, margaret, thank you very much. coming up, talking about the realistic threat of a third-party candidate with the president's nominee for the libertarian party, former new mexico governor gary johnson. what is his case to you?

why he should be your choice, not trump, not clinton, not sanders. alisyn? >> just saw him in the green room. he is ready to come out here and make that case, chris. meanwhile, we also want to talk about the growing outrage over the coming of the cincinnati zoo's silverback gorilla harambe. the director of the zoo says they would respond the same way today if they had to do it all over again, but animal rights activists say the parents of the boy who snuck into the enclosure should bear some responsibility. we bring in jessica schneider from cincinnati. what's the latest there? >> reporter: alisyn, outraged ignited passionate debate on the internet. hundreds of thousands of people signed a petition online calling for prosecution of the parents, but the zoo director has been very careful to say he refuses to lay blame, refuses to point fingers, and he says he doesn't appreciate all the monday morning quarterbacking. >> we did not take the shooting of harambe lightly, but that child's life was in danger. >> reporter: the cincinnati zoo

standing behind their call to kill the gorilla named harambe. after a 3-year-old boy fell into his moat saturday coming face-to-face with the 415-pound 17-year-old silverback. >> this child was being dragged around. his head was banging on concrete. this was not a gentle thing. >> reporter: outrage continues to grow over the decision to shoot. a petition online garnering nearly 300,000 signatures demanding authorities investigate the little boy's parents for not watching their child. the #justiceforharambe on twitter, trending -- don't take your kids to the zoo if you're not able to keep your eyes on them at all times, one writes. and some questioning the surrounding barriers breached. officials who claim the rails and wires the boy crawled through meet all safety requirements and have been in use for 38 years without

incident. >> you can lock your car, you can lock your house, but if somebody really wants to get in, they can. >> reporter: the child's parents thanking the zoo in a statement saying -- we know that this was a very difficult decision for them and they are grieving the loss of their gorilla. one of harambe's former caretakers emotional when recounting the silverback's fate. >> he was in a situation where, there's this strange thing here that i don't know -- what do i do? and do i fight it? do i love it? do i run from it? what do i do? and an unforeseen circumstance was born and he had to lose. >> reporter: and the zoo director also noted that those barriers around gorilla world passed regular inspections by the usda and association of zoos and aquariums. chris? >> all right, jessica, thank you very much. we'll check back with you in a little bit. also other breaking news overnight. deadly air strikes in western syria. bombs dropped on the rebel-held

city of edlib. some hit right near a hospital. the reports, 23 dead so far including women and children in respect was young boy, we have video of, rescued, pulled from the rubble. initial reports point to russian jets. russia strongly denies this. here toly 40,000 verizon worksers return to work tomorrow. a tenty contract deal ended a walkout that stretched almost seven weeks. union workers will get a raise of more than 11% over the next four years, verizon, though, gets to make cost-saving changes to the company's health care plan. union members still need to ratify that deal. nba star pau gasol is thinking about skipping the olympics this summer because of the zekia outbreak. scheduled to play for spain but is troubled about the uncertainty of health risk in brazil and gasol claims other

spanish athletes are considering withdrawing from the games calling for officials to release more clear information about the potential health risks. >> look, he's not alone. almost 200 doctors and professors calming on the olympics to be moved or cancelled. people are worried. >> the w.h.o. just changed some timeline guidance on people, if you're thinking of conceiving. >> absolutely. we'll talk about all that. when it comes to zika, the world health organization does have new guidelines out. we'll tell you what they are, and also is the u.s. prepared? we'll speak with a u.s. response coordinator. the ebola czar is next.

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the world health organization now increasing the amount of time for couples who visited zika-affected areas to wait before trying to conceive a baby. the new guidelines going from four weeks to eight weeks. this comes after months of debate in congress over funding to fight the zika virus and still no consensus on a plan of action. joining us now is form 0er white house ebola response coordinator ron klain. mr. klain, thanks so much for being here. >> thanks for having me.

>> zika, could turn into an explosive pandemic. so why does the u.s. not have an action plan yet? >> well, president obama sent an action plan to congress in february, and congress has failed to act. i think it's hard to understand why. there's a lot of political wrangling over just how much money or how it's going to be paid for, but this, we have already have 700 people in the u.s. and the territories with zika. 150 pregnant women on the mainland alone. this disease isn't coming. it's here. we need congress to pass this response package now, and get the funding out into the field as quickly as possible. >> here's what the president sent to congress back in february, as you say. he asked for $1.9 billion. the senate approved $1.1 billion. the house approved $622 million. now, mr. klain, was this a situation in which the white house was sort of inflating the number of dollars they would need, because they knew that congress wouldn't agree to it? >> no, i don't think so. first of all, you have to go

back to the ebola epidemic just to see how important this is. president obama center a $6.4 billion request to congress to fight ebola. congress on a bipartisan basis, democrats and republicans came together, passed 90% of it. we put the money together quickly and efficiently and stopped the epidemic, saved thousands of lives and protected the american homeland. president obama's request was organized by dr. tony fauci, and doctor tom fountain, two leading doctors. this should be beyond politics. this shouldn't be a political dispute. the baby whose will have zika caused microcephaly are not democrats or republican. they're just babies and we need to step in to protect these pregnant mothers and their children now. >> you, of course, were the ebola czar and ebola scared the heck out of people. it just sounded like the most hideous thing you could ever contract. does zika scare you as much? >> well, you know, they're very

different diseases. ebola obviously could be fatal in a broad population. but we're worried about what zika is with just pregnant women and the babes they are going to have, but it does scare me. at the peak, three or four cases of ebola in the united states. we already have hundreds of cases of zika in the united states and local transmission hasn't started. the experts say that as summer arrives and our mosquitoes get active, particularly in the southeastern and southern united states, we are going to see this disease actually being spread in america. people getting it in the united states who never traveled abroad. that should scare everyone and i hope it would scare congress into passing the legislation needed to help fight the mosquitoes, to fight the disease and protect the american people. >> congress says it still has to go through all of their conference committees. do you think it's possible those in congress don't know the risks that the u.s. is confronting? >> you know, i don't really know and i can't explain it, but i know that the mosquito are not going to wait for the

conference's committee. the weather is getting warmer, about to be on the 1st of june. that's the peak mosquito season around the gulf coast and on the southern atlantic coast and the mosquitoes aren't waiting to see what congress does. they will start to transmit this disease unless we get the funding to strengthen mosquito control, take the other steps necessary to get this disease under control, and to protect the american people. >> almost 200 doctors and professors have written a letter to the world health organization saying that they believe the summer olympics in brazil should be postponed or moved because of zika. let me read awe portion of it. an unnecessary risk is posed when 500,000 foreign tourists from all countries attend the games potentially acquire that strain and return home to place where is it can become endemic. it is unethical to runs games that were proceedny if moved. >> this merits a hard look. the hard question, rio is a peak

touri isist defendan isist dest olympics happen or not. if we move the olympics, others take the hotel rooms as tourists, we're really not doing anything. looking at olympics, it's a fair question, but today, 100,000 americans visiting brazil, they will come home. at risk of spreading this disease if we don't get action take ton bring it under control in the united states. the olympics are the fair question but overwhelmingly it should be strengthening o ining to fight zika here at home. >> thank you, ron klain. >> thanks for having me. the third-party candidate, new nominee for the libertarians. former new mexico governor gary johnson. there he is, in our green room. ready to come in and make the case to you.

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the libertarian party, putting forward a pair of former republican governors to compete with donald trump and maybe hillary clinton, maybe bernie sanders, in the general election. a third-party bid has its own set of challenges. let's talk now with the man at the top of the libertarian ticket. congratulations on your success, governor. >> chris, thank you. good to have survived the weekend. >> first question may be the sufficientest. as a potential president, will you continue to wear nike running shoes throughout this entire process? >> well, symbolic of getting away from the imperial presidency, the notion that -- the notion that presidency, i mean, it's an entourage

everywhere and new york has to constantly get snarled because of the president coming into town t. does. >> can't we do this a little bit -- >> if you win -- >> smatter? >> we'd like to discuss that with you. >> you won't have to discuss it. >> so the ticket became an interesting challenge. you suggested as much when we first had you on "new day." >> absolutely. >> you said if i -- what do you mean if? well, let the convention play out. why was it trick ty to get the ticket settled? >> these are libertarian activists and they very much tear about liberty and freedom and as me being their representative, they really care about that. i just think there be tens of millions of americans out there that have no idea what it is to be libertarian and i think i do a better job of communicating that going forward. >> what's the pitch? >> i've been given that -- if you're not crazy about trump, clinton or sanders, 50% polled said, yad, i'd be open to a third thing?

>> the best of both words. being fiscally conservative and notionally liberal. the government that really is desirable that government taxes too much and then on the civil liberties side. always come down on the side of people being able to make their own choices in their own lives as long as those choices don't adversely affect others and bill weld is my running mate. a couple skeptics to military interventions and maybe the unintended consequence of making things worse than better, less safe as oppose to safer. >> you were republican governor of news mexico. why hasn't this worked? the idea of a rockefeller governor? seems those middle ground positions died off in favor of more extreme ones in the two parties. >> chris, i argue, most

republicans, even though they might be socially conservative don't want to make that public policy, because at the end of the day, if you make social conservatism public policy you end up putting people in jail for their choices and we do have the highest incarceration rate of any country in the world. that starts with the drug war. but for our drug wars tens of millions are convicted felons but for our drug laws would otherwise are tax-paying, law-abiding citizens. >> except people see them as criminals. people see transgender people who want to use a bathroom. >> exactly. the republican side of this. >> but they're popular positions within, at least, one part. >> i don't necessarily think so. of course, i wasn't really given an opportunity to represent that on the republican side. i served as a two-term governor of news mexico, a heavily blue state. bill weld served two terms in a

heavily blue state both made names for ourselves big conservative. pinches pennies. >> i understand the johnson argument. a good one. how can you judge my poll numbers when i don't get included in the poll? >> exactly. since the last time we met, gary, showing up well in the polls. chris, since then, i don't know. there have been 40 national poll where is my name has not appeared. >> so it's not fair on that level. i understand that. they have you at ten. a qualified number, but with voters under 30, i believe, a much more robust number. it's about 18%. what does that number tell you? >> based on -- what that number tells me is what's the harm in having my name appear all the time so that it might actually measure that, delve into it, understand why that's the case. i really do think it's an appeal across the board. it isn't just young people. look, my message doesn't change regardless of which audience i'm in front of pu democrats, republicans, libertarians.

look, government's too big. keep government out of our possibilitybo pocketbooks out of our bedrooms and military interventions. look, the world is less safe today. that isn't to say this isn't well-intentioned. we have treaties with 69 countries where we are obligated to defend their borders and none of those treaties have been authorized by congress. let's get congress involved in declaration of war, get congress involved. >> they shirk it? right? >> they do. they shirk it, exactly, because -- >> we talk about this on the show a lot. authorization for use of military force is an old one. that is being used right now. the president is -- congress doesn't want to act, for various reasons. with treaties congress gives power to the president and reserve the right to complain about it after the fact. >> spot-on. >> it takes you to the how. how would you do it differently with regards to isis than we're hearing from trump or clinton? >> well that it is a very real

threat but where is the open debate and discussion over what it is that we should be doing? congress has and abdigated its >> would you -- >> go into the concept of getting our troops out of the middle east and with the intention of not flying drones and killing thousands of incident people. that's the way i would go into this. if there's an argument on the other side, let's hear it. get it out in the open, let's let the american public be a part of this. >> a lot of politics to date between the two or three main candidates has been intensely personal. you were passionate on one of these issues when you were making your speech after the convention nomination. here's a little taste of it. >> -- as a bored state government it's incendiary to 50% of population of new mexico he's talking about hispanics and mexicans in this way when the

absolute opposite is true. >> they call him out on really what is really racist. it's just racist. >> trump will say, one, being mexican is not a race. two, as you know, former governor johnson, the people coming across the border illegally are often not the best that mexico has to offer. >> that isn't true, chris. that's what is so misunderstood. the people coming across the border are people that just want jobs. the jobs are there but they can't get the jobs as well. >> but criminals as well. >> absolutely. how about making a system it would be easy to get a work visa, a moving line to get across the border, having a work visa, so that the people crossing the border illegally, that the border patrol would actually be able to identify those people as opposed to mothers with children actually waiting across the rio grande because of jobs that exist and they can't get over to take advantage of them. >> but is trump wrong when he says, they also send the worst? not the best?

they're rapists and murderers that um can as well? >> no. absolutely untrue. >> but you have cases like the one in san francisco, not only did they bash sanctuaries, comes back, kills somebody. >> statistics. always have the worst. i don't want to any any way defend the worst, but statistically, illegal immigrants commit far less crime than u.s. citizens. that's statistically speaking. >> are you ready for donald trump once you're in this thing and he recognizes you, to give you a big punch in the nose for calling him a racist? >> i think that they've already started coming. so, you know, donald -- >> that's an interesting rebuttal you have there, governor. i don't know how it's going to go over. >> i don't know. >> it may get reaction. >> governor johnson, congratulations on being at the top of the ticket as the race goes on, you're always welcome here at "new day" to talk about it. >> thank you. back to another story getting so much attention. the cincinnati zoo said it had

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a naturally we did not take the shooting of harambe lightly, but that child's life was in danger, and people who question that, who are monday morning quarterbacks, or second guessers don't understand that you can't take a risk with a silverback gorilla.

>> that was the director of the senate zoo claiming they had no choice but to shoot and kill a rare silverback gorilla in order to save a young boy's life, but some have speculated that the animal may have been trying to protect the child after the child enter theed gorilla's enclosure. joining us by phone someone who knows all about these gorillas, jack hanna, director of the zoot in ohio and host of "jack hanna's into the wild" and "jack hanna's wild countdown." good morning, jack. >> good morning. >> you have a house in rawanda a couple of miles away from where these gorillas live in the wild. you know their behavior well. when you watch this video of this gorilla dragging this little boy around like a rag doll what was the gorilla doing? >> the gorilla was very alarmed, upset. a silverback. some hold the babies, that happened 20 years ago.

the child picked up by female gorilla and happened to be raised at the columbus zoo here. we don't do that. picked up because raised by humans. a silverback is upset. you have a stick of dynamite. you don't have a lot of time. with people screaming upstairs, you understand, that gorilla is totally confused. what would happen if we tranquilized him, why wouldn't that work? simple. it's like you standing there talking to me, all of a sudden get poped by a tranquilizer with the gorilla, and i've lived in rwanda 20-some years, worked in the clumpic zim columbus zoo, ih sides. that gorilla was beyond upset. the minute shot with a tranquilizer, you have a child. i don't want to go into it.

you wouldn't want to know. >> alternative for the witnesses to have seen what could have happened would have been so much worse. interesting you say the gorilla was like a stick of dynamite because the witnesses on-site, part of why there's a pushback that the grill worilla didn't n be killed, they saw the gorilla trying to protect the little boy. pulled up his pants at one point, holding his hand at some point. seemed to be guarding the little boy. so is it possible there were moments he was protective of the boy? >> well, you could call it that but you don't know with a silverback. you don't know. i've seen them in the wild. the younger male with an older male. i've seen a gorilla take a green coconut you can't even open with a sledgehammer, seen him take it and squish it like a marshmallow. all he had to do, grab that

hundred wand, do so much damage, in a split second. you don't know. for example, my kid, i told visitors what it if a were your child in there, what would you say? it's a no-win situation for the cincinnati zoo. however, human life, animal life. none of us like to do what had to be done but a terrible situation did the right thing and had to do it. not sitting here talking today about the life of a child. that's what i say. >> to hear you say you've seen these gorillas take a green coconut and squish it with one hand. >> yes, i have. >> like a marshmallow. that's pretty evocative. that's all you kind of need to know about what could have happened to this boy, but, jack, i want to bring up something you brought up and you said we had seen these gorillas, the silverback gorillas acting gently back in 1986, and we have video of this. this was at the london zoo, and this is also what some of the people now who are questioning the cincinnati zoo's action, what they point to.

was this little 5-year-old boy. still pictures, basically got the point. a 5-year-old fell into the gorilla's enclosure and that gorilla, jambo, came over and caressed the little boy's back while he was unconscious. kept the other gorillas away while he petted the young boy. wasn't that a male gorilla as well? >> was this little boy conscious or unconscious? >> unconscious. >> all right. a very good -- the one that happened 20-some years ago, this child unconscious, this child is not unconscious. is he? this child is screaming? i know that. you heard it'sthe child is screaming, pulling away from the gorilla to a point and what would the gorilla have done after we saw that last scene. what would he have done when

popped by this? child still screaming? as an animal, what's happening here? my gosh. i'm hurt. you're taking a chance with a human being's life here and you can't do that. >> yeah. jack hanna, great to get your expertise. no one, again, knows the silverback gorillas better than you. thank you for helping to put some of this protest to rest in terms of what else the zoo could have done. jack, thanks so much for being on "new day." >> no. thank you. thank you very much. >> we appreciate it. okay. so when jack hanna has seen a green coconut be squished with one hand by the gorilla like a marshmallow. i think that's puts it to rest. >> except that it doesn't for people who don't understand what the capacity of a gorilla is and when you see the gorilla standing over the child the way he was. >> looking protective. >> it looks different than what we're used to seeing with like a jungle cat or something like that that is mauling you at 100% of the time. i think it's easy to be confused

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24-year-old rookie alexander rossi winning the indy taking e running on fumes as he took the checkered flag. the car had to be towed to the winner's circle to celebrate with traditional swig of milk. we have the champ with us. alexander rossi, congratulations. great to have you here. >> good to have you. >> are we exaggerating what the stakes were at the end of this race, that literally the car was on fumes? how dire was the situation? >> it was pretty dire. we ran out of gas kind of out of turn 4 coming down to the start/finish line. and it was the -- obviously the longest time that it took for me the entire month of may to get there. but also, it was the most stressful obviously because i knew there were caring coming at 100 miles an hour quicker than i was going. i was constantly looking at my mirror and it was like, wow, i finally crossed and there was no one to my right, it was relief and that's kind of the joy that was expressed over the radio.

>> you did that intentionally. i run out of gas unintentionally. you did it intentionally and you said since you knew you were going to do that you had to get creative. like what? >> i don't think we meant to have it that far. we knew we were going to be short on fuel based on the pit strategy we chose. so i was in a very fortunate situation to be able to have unbelievable teammates, andre autosport, who was willing to based on their race, in the way they needed to, would go in front of me and help me tow around. >> draft them? >> i would draft them and get around the track at the similar speed using 40 or 50% less than others. >> how incredible. >> they are a poised group. even when they're young, 24 years old, poised. has this hit you yet that you're going to have one of those chrome head osen the trophy is going to be a little rossi head on there? >> when you put it like that. >> has it sunk in yet? this is the race, man. the indy 500, brickyard, kissing

the brick, drinking the milk. you're one of those guys yet. >> i'm okay with that. i'm just enjoying it and taking it day by day and every day it hits me a little bit more. but it is a huge honor to be able to be associated with everyone that's on the board trophy next to me and to be able to do it at the indy 500 is even more spectacular. it was such an amazing day. and a privilege to be a part of that event. >> i also read that you said it was such an emotional roller coaster that you're going to need a psychiatrist. >> probably, yeah. because during the race, i mean, we started 11th. we were constantly in the top ten and we had two difficult pit stops that dropped us to the back. >> were you last? you were 98th, right? >> my car number is 98. >> your car number 98. how far back were you in the order? >> i was dead last, yeah. so we had a yellow flag pit stop that went wrong and so we fell back and lost a lot of positions so it forced us to try to do something a little bit

different. that's what we did. we made sure that we would have a little bit extra fuel than the other guys. but then as we talked about we had to find a way to stretch it and it was just -- it was a gamble but the napa auto sports, group honda it made my job easy. >> do you have anxiety dreams? wake up, yes, i did win? >> i haven't even slept much since sunday, no. >> you have another race coming up, we know. that celebration, take us through it. just like the emotional aspect of, wow, this actually worked, i actually won. the rites of passage that go along with the victory. >> it's a huge relief that we were able to execute something that it seemed like such a big gamble at the time and it was something that was 90 laps in the making and huge testament of the people around me and wonderful team and engineers that were calculating the fuel mileage literally every single corner and relaying the message. >> what were you getting in your ear? >> i was getting a number.

a miles per gallon number. it was 35% more than i had ever had before. like we talked about, i had to find a way to save that fuel and at periods of time i was pulling in the clutch and coasting. so twez pretty aggressive, the fuel saving but we got it done. >> how does your life change now? >> it just gets busier and there's a lot more people that want to know the story and everything and it's great and a wonderful platform for indycar and for people to know why this sport is so special and what makes the indianapolis 500 the greatest race in the world. >> expectations now? you are a rookie. you want to try to do well. want to try and stay with the team. now you're the champion of the indy 500. >> you know, what happened last weekend one of the main things is we got a lot of points. so we got double the points for winning that race as you normally do which put i initially into championship contention, we're sixth. there's a race this weekend in detroit and we will be looking to carry this momentum forward

there in a couple of days. >> you're going to need a big mantel for that trophy. it's taller and heavier than me. thanks, alexander rossi. great to talk to you this morning. >> italian. >> i noted that? >> enough said. we're following news, the latest outrage over what happened to that gorilla and that kid in that cleveland zoo. let's get right to it. step away right there. >> dramatic moments at a bernie sanders rally. >> we don't get intimidated easily. >> we won. we. i'm just the messenger. >> this not a reality show. >> hillary can't even beat bernie and beating bernie will not be tough. >> i'll do whatever i can. >> the gorilla has the child. >> this child was being dragged around. this is not a gentle thing. >> was he looking at this chil to protect or looking at it as a rag doll? >> there was no other decision

to make. >> rio de janiero, the host of the 2016 summer olympics. >> everything is going to be ready in time. >> what are you expecting everything to be perfect. >> rio's olympics somehow cursed? this is "new day" with chris cuomo and allison. >> good morning. welcome to your "new day." it's tuesday, may 21st. 8:00 in the eastern. hillary clinton and bernie sanders barn storming across california today one week away head of the primary. sanders unscathed after a security scare in a rally in oakland. secret service racing to shield the senator when protesters rushed the stage. they were taken into custody with sanders picking up where he left off. this is the day that donald trump's critics have been waiting for. trump promising to reveal which veteran's charities benefit fred a controversial iowa fund-raiser that trump claims raised $6 million. and there are also internal documents from the trump university playbook that are being unsealed today on orders

from a judge. what will they contain? we have the race for the white house, covered the way only cnn can. let's start with senior washington correspondent joe johns. joe? >> chris, this was a huge crowd in california. they got to see how quickly the secret service protection detail can get moving after a few protesters from an animal rights group seeking to put a spotlight on their stance against agri business trying to rush the stage. it was all over in a matter of moments. i think with you can see this was one more event in a strange and unpredictable presidential primary season. >> step away right there. >> reporter: dramatic moments at a bernie sanders rally in downtown oakland, california. secret service ats jumping on stage, pulling the presidential candidate away from the microphone. at least four protesters leaped over barricades, yelling and attempting to rush the podium. secret service detail quickly apprehending the individuals. one of the protesters appeared

to be hit by a security member's baton while another was carried out of the venue by his arms and legs. grass roots group and animal activist direct action everywhere taking responsibility for disrupting the event. this latest squirmish on the 2016 campaign trail only one of several incidents this year causing the secret service to jump on stage. commotion breaking out at a trump rally in ohio in march when a protester tried to rush the stage. >> i was ready. i don't know if i would have done well but i would have been fithding. >> reporter: in april trump's motorcade stopping along a highway in california after protesters blocked the hotel entrance where a gop convention was being held forcing the republican candidate to exit his vehicle and cross the freeway on foot. sanders uninjured and seemingly unfazed by this incident. >> we don't get intimidated

easily. >> reporter: the senator cheering on the golden state warriors later in the night, continuing to barn storm california. >> does this guarantee me the california primary? >> reporter: before june 7th delegate-rich primary in the state. his attempt to arrest the democratic nomination from hillary clinton. and that democratic front-runner hillary clinton is getting back into the grind after the holiday and she's on the east coast today with fund-raisers in new york and new jersey featuring former attorney general eric holder and jor cory booker. she's expected to head back out to california on thursday. >> holder making news on another issue as well that we're going to discuss in a little bit coming up. so donald trump today expected to reveal details from a fund-raiser he held in january to benefit veterans. remember, he skipped the debate to raise them money? and another issue that deals with trump university. i call it in quotes because the

university lost the rights to be called that major documents unsealed. what will they show in cnn's sarah murray is live in washington with more. >> like you said, it's a day of transparency for donald trump and some is by choice and some of it's at the direction of a judge. now, the first thing trump watts to do today is set the record straight. he's holding a press con press to explain what happened at that fund-raiser he held instead of appearing a the fox news debate. he said he raised about $6 million. our cnn investigative team has confirmed about $4 million of those donations including a million directly from trump but he's been dogged by questions about what happened to the rest of the amount, what kinds of charities he's going to and he is hoping to clear all that up today. he is previewing it as donald trump is one to do on twitter today saying i have raised/given a tremendous amount of money to our great veterans and have nothing but bastz publicity for doing so. watch. so, chris that gives you a good idea of how he's going deal with

this press conference today. more details and more slamming the press. the other thing is the judge that is presiding over the trump university case ordered unsealing of these documents related to the case. it will give us a better idea of the protocols of trump university as well as how they marketed this to students. some spent tens of thousands of dollars on this real estate course. and they essentially said they felt like they were defrauded. they didn't get what they thought they were paying for. trump university was shuttered in 2011 but you can bet that his political opponents are going to be pouring over the documents looking for any indication that trump is a billionaire businessman who is trying to sort of defraud the average american people. we'll see what those documents hold later today. >> we don't know what's going to happen with the lawsuit or lawsuits but this is certainly not just more political stink. they're real people with real problems. let's discuss the implications of all of this that's in the political wind with cnn senior political commentator david axelrod, former senior in the obama

administration. your podcast making news. we'll get to that. but the stakes for california. i mow the math. i know what everybody is saying on the clinton side. bernie sanders is going at california like we haven't seen in recent history. what are thelication on that night? >> well, i think that by the time california rolls around, secretary clinton probably will have clinched the delegates that she needs by dent of the new jersey primary. i think she needs about 8% of the delegates to have what she needs to secure the nomination. but obviously if bernie sanders were to do very well in california he's going to try and make the case to superdelegates that despite the fact that hillary clinton won more pledged delegates than he did he would be a better general election candidate and break their commitments for her and be for him. it's an odd argument and uncomfortable one is he's asking -- a guy who complains

about the process, would be asking the superdelegates to basically overturn the verdict of voters. >> you think that even if he were to win california because the polls are neck and neck, that he would not be able to make a compelling enough argument? >> yeah. i don't really see the superdelegates jumping off of hillary clinton. i think those commitments are strong. remember, bernie sanders doesn't really have a relationship with these superdelegates. he's never really courted the party. this is his first run as a democrat. the clintons obviously have long and deep ties within the democratic party. i think that the fate -- fate has sealed this nomination, but bernie sanders is obviously fighting very hard. and in any case is going to have a big influence on that convention. >> she needs them. she needs those voters. the party base itself is sketchy in terms of who is going to come out and not. how much does she need to do and as soon as she needs to do to it

bring them into the tent? >> yeah, well, you noegszknow, the concerns that i would have if i were the clinton camp is the more that bernie sanders delegitimates the process, suggests in anyway that it's unfair, that it's rigged, that if the rules had been different he would have won, that the superdelegates are in some way, you know, in the bag or in the tank, it makes it harder to bring his young supporters in the fold. and so that would be a concern of mine. obviously some accommodations already have been made, some rather controversial supporters of his has been place and the platform committee. he suggested the other day hegre on the ticket. we'll see about that. i think there's a little bit of a danger here, chris, because if he goes too far -- if she goes too far to accommodate bernie sanders it also exacerbates a different problem that she has which is that her principles are

not fixed, that she's willing to subjugate them to her political needs. so it's going to be a very delegate walk for her from here to philadelphia. >> david, let's talk about two big things happening with trump today. he's going to disclose how much money he raised for the vets me said it was $6 million. it wasn't back then but chances are by today it will be $6 million or maybe even more, who knows. it will happen at 11:00 a.m. east coast time. then the documents from trump university are also going to be unsealed and available to see today for the first time. and that sort of shows how they operated. what do you think that might reveal? >> well, i don't know. i mean, all indications are that trump university was as you guys mentioned earlier, not really a university in the classic sense in that there was some exploitation of the people from whom they extracted fees and

tuition and so on. and that there was a misrepresentation that trump was somehow picking professors and was deeply involved in the offerings of trump university. that all may be revealed in these documents. whether it hurts him or not is another question. a lot of things have been thrown at trump in this campaign and he has prevailed none the less. his unfavorables are record high, and yet he continues to move forward. so we'll see what impact this has on him. >> eric holder, obviously he was going after edward snowden. now he gets on your podcast and some of the headlines i think are a little bit exaggerated but were you surprised that he seemed to move a little bit in terms of the context of what snowden represents? >> i was a little surprised. it reflects the difference between being in office and out of office. he had a little bit more of a reflective view of snowden. basically what he said was he

thought snowden performed a public service by triggering a debate of the review of these nsa practices but he also was very clear on saying that he did break the law. that couldn't be tolerated. he suggested that snowden come back and face the consequences of that. but, that a judge ought to consider in sentencing snowden the fact that he had, in fact, performed a public service by doing what he did. >> let's listen. we have that moment from your podcast. so let's listen to it what eric holder said because it is noteworthy. >> argue about the way in which snowden did what he did. but i think that he actually performed a public service by raising the debate. i think there has to be a consequence for what he has done, but i think, you know, in deciding what an appropriate sentence should be, i think a judge could take into account the usefulness of having had that national -- that national debate.

>> really interesting shs david. that seems a little more than reflective. that seems like, oh, yeah, he needs to go to jail, he needs to go to prison. that's like, hey, let's take into account what's happened sense. >> there's no doubt about it. there's no doubt about it that he was going beyond where he had ever gone before in terms of acknowledging that edward snowden had, through his actions, triggered a really important debate in this country but you can see he was careful to follow up by saying it's still a criminal act. i think that what holder said reflects the two elements of the debate in this country. edward snowden actually beamed into my institute of politics at the university of chicago a few weeks ago and had a kol quoi with one of the professor there's on the nsa commission, jeff stone, that the president set up. it was very, very interesting. but he makes the argument that he is merely a whistle-blower who did what he did because

there was no other avenue to take and that ought to be accommodated in the law. you know, holder was taking a halfway position saying, yes, what he did was valuable but -- and important, but -- and honestly, if you did sort of forgive edward snowden for what he did, which holder did say in this interview jeopardized people in the field, jeopardized american security, then you really are giving a green light to anybody else in this security apparatus and the federal bureaucracy to take it upon themselves to make these decisions. and that's a dangerous precedent. >> all right. david axelrod, thank you so much for sharing that with us. >> good to see you. all right. another top story that we're comping. did the cincinnati zoo make the right debate? the zookeeper says yes but the right activists say the parents of the boy bear some

responsibility for this incident. let's bring in cnn's jessica schneider live from us from cincinnati. hi, jessica. >> hi, allison. a lot of debate and controversy surrounding the zoo's decision and the parents' action or potential inaction. the zoo's director saying he's refusing to place gablame and calling out the so of h called monday morning quarterbacks. >> we did not take the shooting of harambe lightly. >> reporter: the cincinnati zoo standing behind the zoo killing the gorilla harambe. after a 3-year-old boy fell roughly ten feet into this moat st. coming face to face with the 450-pound 17-year-old silverback. >> this child was being dragged around. his head was banging on concrete. >> reporter: outrage continues to grow over the decision to shoot. the anger spreading online, a

change.org petition garnering 300,000 signatures demanding authorities investigate the little boy's parents for not watching their child. the #justiceforharambe trending on twitter. some are questioning how the protective barriers around the enclosure were breached. that's now under review by zoo officials. officials who claim the rates and wires the boy crawled through meet all safety requirements and have been in use for 38 years without incident. >> you can lock your car, you can lock your house. but if someone really wants to get in they can. >> reporter: the child's parents thanking the zoo in a statement saying, we know this was a very difficult we situatidecision fo they are grieving the loss of their gorilla. one of harambe's caretakers was emotional. >> this is a situation where there's a strange thing here that i don't know what -- what do i do? and do i fight it?

do i love it? do i run from it? what do i do? and unforeseen circumstance was born and he had to lose. >> reporter: and the zoo director noted that the barriers surrounding gorilla world have passed regular checks from both the usda and the association of zoos and aquariums and at this point no criminal charges have been filed yet against the parents. chris? >> jessica, thank you very much. appreciate the reporting. we're going to pick up on that subject in a little bit. another question this morning is could a third party candidate come forward to challenge presumptive gop nominee donald trump to challenge whoever the democratic nominee is? we're going to look at how another contender might sway the vote, the man on your screen, former new mexico governor gary johnson, libertarian for president. wait until you see the gesture he has for donald trump. (avo) after 50 years of designing cars for crash survival, subaru has developed our most revolutionary feature yet.

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conservative pundit and donald trump critic, bill kristol, says there will be an independent third-party candidate to challenge donald trump. so who is this mystery candidate? let's discuss this and so much more with staff writer for the "weekly standard" michael warren and cnn commentator and trump supporter caylee. bill kristol is your boss. who is this third-party candidate? >> well, i speak for myself. i don't speak for bill. but so i don't know who that candidate is. i mean, there are a lot of

potential options. but it's going to have to be somebody who understands why this fight is so important. when it's such a daunting fight, when you've really got everything seemingly going against you in terms of the institutional hurdles, the sort of expectations hurdles that that candidate would face, it's going to have to be someone who is willing to do it in the face of all those things and still understand, be able to communicate why they need a third choice, the american people need a third choice. >> that is going to be a real challenge which is why we probably is not seen anybody pub bicically throw their hat in the ring. here are the people who have said no to overtures about become that third-party candidate. governor mitt romney, obviously former candidate and senator ben sass of nebraska, congressman adam kinzinger. michael, i know you don't want to steal bill kristol's thunder and you may not know who it is. >> i don't.

>> i guess my point is is this pie in the sky or is somebody really going to emerge? >> well, i think somebody could emerge. it's a question of whether that person is willing to do it. and i think that we should emphasize that while the task is daunting it's not impossible. this is the craziest presidential election year so anything could happen. you have polls that show that americans want a third choice, a third major choice because they don't like the idea of donald trump or hillary clinton becoming president. they just need that choice. and it's going to have to be up to somebody to step up. >> so, half of the american public as he just said is open to a third-party candidate. the trump campaign does not want this. just called it a disaster if there were a third party person to get in. what's the problem? >> okay. it would be a disaster. here's the thing. outsider's election so it's not surprising the american people would want a third-party candidate. when you look to republican

voters new york time/cbs poll shows 80% of republicans think that republicans should consolidate around donald trump. this third-party candidate would be supporting a minority as used in the republican party. they would essentially be sealing the way for hillary clinton. it would be a disaster. it would certainly make the path harder for a conservative to get into the white house. i'm not sure why mr. cristol is okay for the supreme court being lost for a history. >> he says it doesn't represent the conservative party. >> here's the thing. was the movement to court a third-party candidate for mitt romney in massachusetts or john mccain who was for cap and trade, against the bush tax cuts. these were not the ideal conservative candidate but no similar movement. it's interesting now they want a third-party conservative candidate. >> it's interest that donald trump doesn't mind a third party candidate if it's bernie sanders. he has encouraged bernie sanders to become the third-party candidate because he knows that

that would siphon votes off hillary clinton. there is another alternative. the libertarian candidate gary johnson talked at his motivation forgetting into the race and he also talked about. whether or not he is prepared for what donald trump would bring at him. so watch this moment. >> are you ready for donald trump once you're in this thing and he recognizes you to give you a big punch in the nose for calling him a racist? >> i think they've already started coming. so, you know, donald -- >> i believe that was the old kissoff that we just saw there. so, michael, what about that? do you think that gary johnson with his vp running mate now bill weld, what do you think they will do in the polls and beyond? >> i don't know. i mean, i think that what you just saw there suggests that gary johnson may not have the broad appeal that a real thifd

third-party challenger would need. >> why is that? why giving the kissoff to donald trump show he's not appeal? >> governor of new mexico but he's a little cookie. he's got views. he's not a mainstream movement within american politics. that's the difference between gary johnson or bernie sanders and a more sort of mainstream conservative candidate who could challenge hillary clinton and donald trump. i think, you know, caylee mentioned 80% of republicans want to unite behind the candidate of donald trump. i think if they're given an option it's not going to be so clean so many of those republicans didn't support donald trump. they're a little worried about the prospect of hillary clinton becoming president. a lot worried. but if the polls show that there is some fluidity in this race, you know, a third party candidate gets in and i think a lot of those republicans might reconsider supporting donald trump for this third one. >> jerry johnson was at 10% before he got into the race. what do you think the impact of

he or any other third party person jumps in will be? >> i put the libertarian party as difference than effort to court a third-party candidate. they represent a viable ideology, political platform they're putting forward. it's a positive agenda. whereas third party candidate is a negative agenda, about denying donald trump the nomination and sealing the path for hillary clinton. that's categorically. different than the libertarian party. >> do you think gary johnson will have an impact? >> i don't think so. they will probably get roughly the same they've gotten in elections past but i don't think it will be dismal to donald trump's prospects. >> michael, thanks so much. great to get your perspective the thes on this. this story has people talking and emotions high. the gorilla everyone nose his name now, harambe, this little boy finds his way into the enclosure. gets dragged around by the gorilla. the gorilla gets killed. well, how did they know what to

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outrage all around following the death of harambe, that rare silverback gorilla at the cincinnati zoo. he was shot and killed to save a little boy who had slipped into the animal's enclosure. the zoo's director defends the decision, saying the boy's life was in danger and if you don't know fgorillas when you look at this you might not see what an expert would. we have shana stigerwall, reporter with the cincinnati "enquirer," following this story. and we have richard johnston scott, he was a gorilla keeper for 46 years. now, in 1986 he was the keeper of a gorilla named yambo and that gorilla was in a similar situation wound up projecting a little boy who fell into his enclosure. he wrote about this in his book. i thank you both for being here.

let's start with what's happening right now on the ground. shana, you have layers of questions here. why was the kid not near the parent? how did the kid get into the enclosu enclosure? where are we on those u understanding on those points? >> yesterday the cincinnati zoo held a press conference and gave details about what happened. what we know is there's a stainless steel barrier that has been in place for 38 years, the same type of barrier and the child apparently went over that barrier then crawled or climbed about four feet through some bushes and then dropped into a is a-footdrop down into a moat about a foot and a half of water. he was splashing around and visitors at the zoo, of course shs were alarmed and that alarm drew the attention of harambe the gorilla and he decided to go and investigate and started dragging the child around. so at that point, you know, zoo officials determined the child's life was in danger. >> two quick follows. one, if it's so easy to get in

how come no gorilla has ever gotten out and what do we know about the parents' loss of control of the child? >> i don't know that i would say that it's easy to get in. it's been 38 years since this barrier has been in place. i haven't been to see the barrier since the incident so i can't really describe it from firsthand experience. but the child, you know, got through somehow. you know, it's something that hasn't happened in the 38 years that the exhibit has been open. so that was the situation. what was your second follow-up question? >> the parents. >> huh snuff. >> what do we know about how they lost control -- >> well, you know, i can't -- you know, there have been all sorts of accounts from various witnesses and what not. not having been there i can't speak to that. i haven't spoken with the parent. there are certainly witnesses giving different testimonies as to what exactly happened. i can't speak to what the parents' mindset was. >> gotcha. okay. richard, thank you for being with us this morning. i know this isn't the most

pleasant of topics for you to discuss but you do have some direct understanding, not just of gorillas but of this scenario. we have video of what happened with jumbo in the '80s. what can you tell us about what your mode of thinking about how to assess the gorilla's behavior went? >> it's a totally different situation in the young boy that fell over the wall in jersey was rendered unconscious. he fell 12 feet from the wall. so he was unconscious. when the crowd started drawing the attention of the gorillas toward the boy because they were screaming and naturally upset about it the goer ril la came over and sat by the boy. and within a few minutes it became quite clear that he posed no threat to little merit. his behavior was some -- it was just typical of him. i looked after him for more than

15 years and he was truly a gentle giant. at no point in time throughout the whole incident was he ever a threat to the child. >> what do you see that makes this a different situation? >> i beg your pardon? >> what do you see in the cincinnati zoo situation that requires different analysis? >> well, the situation, the boy was fully conscious throughout. he fell into the enclosure or slipped down. i don't know. i don't know the layout of the cincinnati enclosure but he went into a moat, a shallow moat, and car ram b harambe drags him through the moat which looks quite scary. but i understand that he was actually pulling the child away from where the people who were shouting and screaming, concerned for the little chap. he pulled him away from that area and then when he stopped, it seemed to me that he actually helped the boy to his feet.

quite amazing. i don't know what happened when -- i mean, there's only a few minutes worth of footage but i understand the boy was in the enclosure for ten minutes or something? >> yes. >> so what happened during the rest of that time i have no idea. from what i could see on that film, i don't think harambe was actually looking to hurt that child. i mean, if he had that -- if he intended to hurt that child it would have been over in seconds. >> right. >> you know, it would have been am, bang, that would have been the end of it. that didn't happen. >> what the zookeeper says is, you're right, it den look like it was intentional. their concern was what the gorilla would do unintentionally, the way he was dragging the kid around on a concrete surface covered by water and what would happen if they used the tranquilizer dart after they had tried to use coaxing methods to get harambe away from the kid and he refused to take their instructions.

do those added elements make their ultimate decision more reasonable to you? >> yes, no, i sympathize with the staff. it's a very decision. and like i said, because the boy in jersey was unconscious i think everything was much more relaxed. whereas in cincinnati obviously that gorilla was very tense. you see him standing over the boy. that's typical strutting position, with his lips tucked in which denotes tension. not necessarily aggression but tension. he was quite up tight about the whole situation. i don't know how they tried to coax the child away or whether they tried to encourage harambe to release the boy. i don't know what methods they employed to do that. but my thought at the time was let him calm down, leave him because if he was going to hurt that child that would have happened straightaway. >> richard, not an easy

situation but thank you for your perspective. shana, as well. good to get the word of the ground of how the facts are progressing. there's turmoil at the worst possible time and it threatens to overshadow the brazil olympics. are there rio games, in a word, cursed? we go there with the evidence, next. x: climbing sounds duracell quantum lasts longer so kevin jorgeson can power through the night. sfx: duracell slamtones

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m. time now for the five things to know for your new day. bernie sanders back on the trail in california after a security scare in oakland. four protesters apprehended after trying to rush the senator on stage. donald trump expected to reveal donation details from a veterans fund-raiser he held in january. while documents from the trunt university playbooks are being unsealed also this afternoon on a judge's orders. the cincinnati zoo says the right call was made when gorilla harambe was put down. animal right activists calling

for an investigation of the parents of the boy who slipped into that gorilla enclosure. more severe weather in the forecast for texas and the plains states including high winds, hail, around tornadoes like this twister spotted monday in northeast colorado. the nba finals are set. steph curry and golden state warriors will take on lebron james and the cleveland cavaliers. golden state beating oklahoma city in a deciding game seven advance. game one of the finals thursday night in oakland. you can go to newdaycnn.com for the latest. chris? when you look at rio de janiero, man, it just seems like the perfect place to hold the summer olympic or any advantage. gorgeous. when you look a little closer it is anything but what it appears. we have cnn international correspondent ivan watson to show us what's going wrong and at the worst possible time. >> reporter: it's hard not to be seduced by rio de janiero. this spectacular city soon to be the host of the 2016 summer

olympics. two months before the start of the games construction crews are putting in the final touches at the olympic venues. >> everything is going to be ready on time. we're going the deliver the park fully commission 24th of july. >> reporter: but despite rio's beauty the city and brazil as whole is facing pretty daunting challenges. the whole series of unexpected setbacks leading some to wonder, are rio's olympics somehow cursed? just days ago a warning from more than 100 international doctors, calling for the games to be postponed or moved because the mesquiosquitmosquito-born z. that view respected by the world health organization which does advise pregnant women to avoid the olympics entirely because of the risk of severe deformities to unborn children. and then there's the political and economic crisis.

turmoil after congress suspended brazil's elected president in an impeachment process last month. and high-level corruption scandals. during the worst economic recession in generations which has left more than 10 million brazilians unemployed. the economic hardship aggravating rio's epidemic problems with violent crime. daily gun battles between police and drug gangs in the city's impoverished villas as well as a surge in robberies. this month members of tspanish olympic sailing team mugged at gun point. >> we just turned around to see what was happening and they had pistols like this. >> reporter: olympic sailors also worri about ree rio's notoriously donald trumping b i

dumping bay. >> reporter: rio's mayor warns this is not a first world city. >> don't expect everything to be perfect. we live in a country of economic crisis, country with lots of inequality. with all the problems that we've seen concerning corruption, bribe briberies, but the city will be much better than it was when we got the games. >> reporter: even one of the mayor's new infrastructure projects is now a deadly failure. this brand new spectacular cliff side bike path was supposed to be a showcase project for the olympics. instead, it became a tragic setback when the waves took out part of the trail, killing two people last month. in the turbulent run-up to the olympics a virtual storm of bad news that leaves you wondering what could possibly happen next? ivan watson, cnn, rio de janiero. now in addition to zika

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dreaded super bug has been found in the u.s. for the first time. doctors disclosing a 49-year-old pennsylvania woman infected with an e. coli strain resistant to a last resort antibiotic. what does h mean for the rest of

us, let's bring the deirector o institute of allergy. thank you for being with us on "new day." am i right to say that this super bug sounds much scarier than the zika virus? this is something that cannot be treated with even the last resort antibiotic? >> well, it's the first time that this particular microbe with that resistant capability has been seen in the united states. this been around for a while. it originated likely in china where they feed antibiotics to animals to promote their growth and to prevent infection which ultimately selects for resistance to a particular type of antibiotic called kalistin which we refer to as kind of the last resort of an antibiotic when you have resistance to all other antibiotics. the idea that it is now in the country, one is not surprising because when it was in china and in south america and europe, sooner or later it was going to

come to the united states. our chore, our job right now is to make sure it does not spread and to make sure we have good hospital control in order to make sure that we don't see this go beyond this. this requires a lot of vigilance. >> given that it is resistant -- >> it doesn't scare me. i think when you use the word scare that just adds a agree of emotional response that is not appropriate. this is a challenge we have. we know that we have an issue with antibiotic resistance. we have it and have had it in this country and worldwide for some time now. this is just an added additional threat because the resistance to this particular antibiotic is one that we don't want to lose that capability because it's one that we used when we run out of antibiotics. that's the threat. >> right. the reason that it does sound like a scary prospect is because it's called the last resort antibiotic.

when everything else has been tried and if there's a bacteria or superbug that hasn't worked, with any other antibiotic, this is the one that's called in. let me tell you a few more things we know about this 49-year-old woman's case. she is -- was -- we don't exactly know how she was infected but she went to the doctor for seemingly simple problem. she had a urinary tract infection and she was discovered to have this e. coli strain resistant to the last resort antibiotic. her strain was treatable with other antibiotics smep ended up being okay. this is the first case of this so-called mcr-1 gene resistance. so how would she have gotten this? >> well, that's a good question. you don't know how you get it. once it's in the environment you could get it through food, you can get it just through contamination through substances that you got into contact with. this happens all the time. this is not surprising when you get the introduction of a

resistant microbe. and any of a number of ways she could have gotten it. luckily for her that her microbe, though it was resistant to the antibiotic that we're talking about, fortunately for her, it was sensitive to a number of other antibiotics. the trouble we'll get into is when this particular gene that you mentioned, the mcr-1 gene, when it gets into a microbe that is also resistant to all other antibiotics, then you lose the capability of treating it with kalistin. then you have a problem. that's the thing we're concerned about that this was not spread to those microbes that already have a lot of resistance associated with it. >> doctor, what should the u.s. be doing about this now that it's here? >> we have a major effort to combat antimicrobial resistance. the president himself gave an executive order together with an

action plan called combating antimicrobial resistant material. most agencies, we here at nih as well as the cdc in atlanta have major programs now to address stopping the spread of antimike kro kroeb resistance. there's a major effort going on right now. >> that is comforting to hear. dr. anthony fauci,thanks so much for all the expertise. the good stuff is next. ♪

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>> it's so amaze that he can memorize these let alone the reason that he's doing it. he writes the names in the order the individuals passed awe way in order to keep their memory alive. it was a good reminder for memorial day that just went by that we remember those who lost theirs lives. >> what a beautiful effort. time now for "newsroom" are carol costello. >> hi. have a great day. "newsroom" starts now. happening now in the "newsroom," after months of delay, donald trump will tell the nation exactly how much he's raised for veterans. and just one hour later, internal trump university documents unsealed. what will they reveal? plus, pardon the interruption. secret service ats jump in after animal rights activists rush the stage at a sanders event. and a change in plans. hillary clinton launching a