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said this could easily unfold again next year so we begin the hour with that with donald trump facing questions over his fundraising for veterans groups and his anger at being asked. he took aim at reporters including jim acosta. >> reporter: it was supposed to be a day for donald trump to salute the nation's veterans and highlight the $5.6 million he's raised for their causes. >> this is my check for $1 million. >> reporter: trump ticked off the more than 40 groups he claims are receiving donations. from the fisher house foundation to the bob woodruff foundation but clearly furious after months of questions about where the money is going trump engaged in verbal conduct of his own. >> you know my opinion of the media is very low. >> reporter: the news media. >> instead of being like thank you very much mr. trump or trump did a good job, everyone is
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saying who got it and you make me look very bad. >> reporter: so trump took aim at the reporters. >> it seems as if you're resistant to scrutiny. >> i like scrutiny -- excuse me. i've watched you on television. you're a real beauty. what i don't want is when i raise millions of dollars have people say like this sleazy guy from abc. >> reporter: trump went on to say he never wanted in he credit for helping veterans causes. >> i never wanted credit for it. >> reporter: but it was trump who launched his fundraising drive as a major media event rivaling a gop debate he was skipping. >> we raised close to 6 to be hotly hone totally honest. >> reporter: the gop nominee
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fired off on questions over trump university, the real estate school he founded that's being sued by students who say it's a fraud. newly documents is a play book that focussed on how to market more expensive courses to students. trump has questioned the motoiv of the judge handling the case noting his ethnicity. >> so what happens is the judge who is mexican -- >> reporter: when asked by he highlighted the judge's heritage trump didn't answer. >> i'm a man of principal and most of the people that took those courses have letters saying they thought it was great. >> reporter: as trump told reporters today his combative style isn't about to change. even at white house press conferences. >> it's going to be like this david. if the press writes false stories like they did with this -- >> jim, donald trump doesn't seem to feel very threatened
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about a third-party bid. how does he feel he did at today's news conference. >> reporter: trump wrote off the chances of a third-party challenge he described the lib tarn candidate as a trufringe candidate. he defended his press conference saying that hillary clinton has not had a news conference in a long time so he's trying to say today might have been rocky but at least he's holding news conferences. >> that is true. in fact jake tapper asked hillary clinton about that today. jim, thanks very much. reaction now from the national spokeswoman for the trump campaign. this press conference is fascinating to watch and interesting on a number of reasons. but one of the things donald trump said is that he did this thing and obviously any amount of money donated to veterans charities is a great thing and he gave millions of dollars of personal money as well but he
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seemed to take issue with the reporters asking where did the money go? shouldn't reporters ask those questions. >> they should but i think the bigger question here is why is it so lopsided. the question on donald trump is 24/7 and we don't see any questions to hillary clinton over the clinton foundation. this event was put together in 4 hours and these were pledges that were made. so of course it took time to bring that money in and get that money allocated and get these charities vetted and get that money disbursed . the headline on cnn is trump admits he didn't raise $6 million. this is the type of bias that happens in the media that mr. trump is talking about. >> is it the reporter's job to trump a candidate or is it the
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reporter's job to be critical and question a candidate? >> i think it's the reporter's job to be nonbiased and to report the facts. this is the problem that we have here and mr. trump is absolutely right. there are reporters out there who are very biased who are corrupt and who are activists, not actual journalists who want to get the information out to the people or we would be seeing hillary clinton questioned about the campaign contribution going to the clinton foundation and the $500,000 bill received in moscow but no one's talking about that in the media. >> the fact that you even know about that tells me that actually there has been a lot of reporting on that. hillary clinton has probably been reported on more than any candidate or any individual for decades now. just about everything -- >> no, not at all. >> so the fact that you know about a speech bill clinton made, the fact that you know
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about -- you didn't do your own reporting on that. that's been reported by others. >> absolutely. there's information out there because there are journalists out there that do do their jobs but you don't see that in the 24 hour news cycle. cnn spent a week talking about an audio recording in the '90s yet there is a audio on recording of hillary clinton defending a child sex offender. >> you're wrong because that particular story and that particular audio was brought up by a trump supporter on my broadcast and we actually spent several weeks doing a story about it and we heard that story i think it was last week or two weeks ago. >> headlines, 24 hours, anderson. the american public knows this is what's happening. whether or not people inside d.c. or the media want to admit people know there is a bias when
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it comes to journalism and they know mr. trump is being unfairly. mrs. clinton won't go on some of the news programs. >> i agree with you on that. in fact i've been saying this that your candidate has given interviews and i have actually not to use the word trumpeted the fact that you're candidate shows up for interviews and ted cruz and marco rubio and jeb bush, hillary clinton none of these others have actually done. so i don't think it's fair to say he doesn't get credit for that because i give him credit for showing up and answering questions which a lot of politicians don't. earlier today donald trump said that he didn't want credit for these donations that he wanted to keep it private, which is very possible but at the same time this whole thing started because he wasn't take part in the fox debate and he decided to do this and he decided i'm going to raise money at the same time
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for veterans. to say he didn't want attention paid to this the whole idea was for not people to watch the fox debate but to watch his event which was raising money for veterans, right. >> that makes it sound like this was some preson receivconceived that wasn't the case. mr. trump has a public business life and parts of his personal life but he's a very charitable person. the family as a whole are charitable people and they don't do these types of things publicly and that's what you're seeing translating with mr. trump as a candidate. yes, he did have a very public event. he released 22 charities that they were already going to be receiving those funds and so that should have been the end of it but the media kept pushing. in some cases the media was imapplying the trump organization was pocketing the money and that's where a lot of this -- the frustration comes from. >> i want to ask you about the judge in the trump university case. donald trump has said that this
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judge is quote we believe mexican was the term that trump used. he's obviously an american citizen, mexican citizens are not judges in the united states. you acknowledge that right that he's not mexican? >> yes. his parents are mexican but i think the bigger picture here is the idea that mr. trump also said during that same speech is that he doesn't like mr. trump. he's a trump hater and we do know that this judge is friends with the lawyers of the opposing people in this case and he's appointed two law firms to represent the people going up against mr. trump, one of those law firms the principal is a hillary clinton campaign supporter and the other law firm was a barack obama supporter and that organization has admitted to putting together some of these anti-trump protests. mr. trump is stating the obvious. >> when you say he's a trump hater, you're basing that on this thing about the law firms or do you have any evidence that
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he actually hates donald trump? >> i think mr. trump has had more interaction with this judge than you or i so i trust his judgment. if he does say that -- >> it's a gut feeling on his -- i'm trying to for the record it's more of a gut feeling on this his pardt he's being unfairly by this judge. >> he does feel he's being treated unfairly by this judge. as he mentioned this should have been settled in a summery judgment. now we are seeing the releasing of sealed documents. this is a part of the problem as well because the people out there the voters know how detrimental it can be when you have activist judges on the bench and now they're seeing this play out nationally. >> appreciate you being on. thank you very much. we're going to take this up with the panel next. more on this and the clinton/sanders battle. one side says it over plus a big
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trump's press conference today and his attacks on reporters as well as his attacks on a judge in the lawsuit against the so called trump university. back with the panel this hour. let's talk about that press conference. obviously any time for a republican candidate attacking the media it plays well with the base. >> sure. it place well with the base and it will continue to play well with the base as it did during the campaign but when you are in a general election you need to broaden that base. i think the question that's raised and i don't know the answer at this point is temperament. i think donald trump was angry and he lashed out at journalists and i know they are easy targets and that's okay but i think the questions will be raised and you'll see hillary clinton doing it and others doing it about temperament. i think that's something he's going to have to answer. >> i'll throw this out. how much do you think this is about donald trump not having experience in politics and
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having had decades of relationships and coverage as a social figure, as a business figure and a figure in new york and not had the kind of cynical or aggressive or whatever it is vetting now that is being done. >> i think that's a huge part of what it is. he enters this race thinking i have plenty of media experience and he does but he's used to having them eating out of his hand and when they're critical that's a small group of people. now it's they're here to critique him. >> if a private civilian raises $6 million for veterans groups no one is going to say has the money been tributed. that's a nice thing this person did and donald trump teams to have given a lot of money over the years gets that kind of coverage. suddenly to be a candidate and saying you gave money as a candidate the questions are what groups and things like that.
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>> you said 6 milli$6 million b did $5.6 million. >> early on he did say $6 million. >> that's what the political press does. that's not what he's used to. it's different than the society press or the tv media press and this is only going to build. this is the national press. i've done it in new york. they never let up and they're not going to let up. i think what we're going to see is more and more moments where he comes close to and then blows his top and for independent voters that's going to make them think do i want someone like that negotiating. >> one thing i think we're forgetting here if you remember back in 1988 when then vice president george h.w. bush sat down with dan ratherer and rather tried to pin him down i think it was him who said go after him and bring up the fact that there was an incident where
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he walked off a set. so he turned on him and he did this and silenced him. >> here's what we learned today about donald trump, i'm not going to change. everybody was talking about will donald trump be more presidential is he going to change his tone and be more inclusive of the republican party. he came out today and said i'm not going to change. so all the republicans who are hopeful that they might be seeing a different kind of donald trump now that he's the presumptive nominee we're told directly today that this is who i am so get over it. this is who i'm going to be. >> it's like papa, i am what i am. it worked for papa and it worked for donald trump. >> up until now but i think the idea that a general election is completely different matters because independent voters aren't as invested in a party structure or as married to party loyaltity. they're going to look at this
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and say wait a minute. something that katrina said in your interview said she said it's about the facts. well, the facts are what got us here in the first place because the facts were that donald trump could not account for where the money went, the campaign was putting -- couldn't answer direct questions, simple questions about where the veterans' money went. when they through an event together with 24 hours and they had a link going directly to the trump campaign website, which raises a red flag and against the irs rules, it took a washington post reporter to shame donald trump into writing that check. >> a number of checks weren't written until the washington post article came out. >> the clinton supporting law firm in this trump university case has nothing to do with the fact that the first cases were filed in 2013 against the trump
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university fraud scheme. these are things that are facts. >> by the attorney general who was after the trump family for money didn't get it and started to do the -- >> okay. >> fraud before he ever run for president. those are facts that -- that's why we're here and that's what the media is there to scrutinize those things. >> the attack on the media stuff does it play well in a general election. >> it does play well. i think it plays well with the independents. i think it's part of all the crumbling of institutions and how people perceive people that have been in power and feeding them information and they think the mainstream media is smug. >> let him finish. >> i will say he is controlling the discussion. he is dominating the air time once again and i don't think it's going to be particularly damaging for him although i do think he went overboard and i think think starting to call people names is very unpresidential but i don't think he's going to hurt him very
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much. >> it works until people don't trust you anymore. if people don't believe you at the core then at a certain point they believe you're grandstanding. same thing with donald trump. if more information comes out about donald trump university -- >> you have to have a level of control for your argument to play out. he doesn't know when to stop. >> he's controlling the story right now and he has been throughout the entire primary season. >> i'll try to regain control after the break. you don't have to look much further than donald trump and hillary clinton's unfavorability ratings to see that people aren't excited about either candidate and that's where gary johnson is hoping to come in. i will speak with him when he come back about his platform and why he says it's important to call out trump on the policies that governor johnson calls flat out racist. cancer...
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gary johnson was nominated this weekend as the libertarian
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candidate. the governor is not always included in polling but in polling two weeks ago he got 10% coming from voters under 35. first i want to play you a bit of what he said over the weekend after he was officially nominated. he was asked how he will be taking donald trump on. >> i'm not taking him on on the fact that he wants to deport 11 million illegal immigrants. taking him on on wanting to build a fence across the boarder that's nuts. taking him on when he says mexicans are murderers and rapists. it's contrary to 50% of the population of new mexico when the opposite is true. absolutely. call him out on what is really racist. it's just racist. >> i spoke with gary johnson a short time ago before we went on the air.
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governor johnson congratulations on becoming the candidate. do you obviously as we heard take issue with donald trump's immigration policies and your running mate has compared trump's deportation plan as a nazi against jews. do you agree with that. >> i do. new mexico is one of the four minority, majority states. 50% of the population of new mexico is hispanic so what does that mean when we're going to deport 11 million illegal immigrants. half the state of new mexico is going to be subject to door knocking and paper checking. >> you see it as racist? >> i do. i think that first of all, he calls them murderers and rapists. they commit far less crime than u.s. citizens. they're the cream of the crop when it comes to workers.
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they're not taking jobs that u.s. citizens want. we should make it as easy as possible that somebody who wants to come in this country to work to get a work visa and that should entail a background check and a social security card so taxes get paid. >> libertarians traditionally align more with republicans than democrats. going forward do you see trump as your main rival and therefore the main target of your critiques. how do you see the race ahead. >> i think it's equally from both sides. my name has appeared in the three national polls and in the three national polls i took more votes away from hillary than trump but at the end of the day i think we take equally from both sides. >> you don't see yourself as a spoiler candidate against donald trump that will lead to hillary clinton getting elected. >> there's so many things that trump has to say, immigration, free trade, he talks about free
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trade but then in the next sentence he says i'm going to force apple to make their ipads and iphones in the united states. he talks about a 35% tariff and bringing back waterboarding or worst and killing the families of muslim terrorists. this is the united states of america. >> i want to run through a number of issues and get your take on it because a lot of people are just learning about you. on the issue of abortion where do you stand. >> i support a women's right to choose. how can there be a more difficult issue. >> legalized marijuana for recreational purposes. >> yes. very quickly on marijuana, look i think it makes the world a better place. on the medicinal side you have marijuana products that directly compete with legal prescription drugs that killed 100,000 people a year. not one documented death due to marijuana. then on the recreational side
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legalizing marijuana in my opinion will lead to less overall substance abuse because it's so much safer than everything else that's out there starting with alcohol. >> just to be clear up until january 1th you were the coe of a cannabis company. >> yes. i do believe that legalizing marijuana does make the world a better place. safer products accomplishing the same results. >> marriage equality. >> i support marriage equality. >> in terms of national security threats to the united states o what do you think are the top national security threats. >> the top is north korea. at some point kim -- these ballistic missiles are going to work. so diplomacy to the hilt, involve china when it comes to north korea potentially unifying the koreas something that's been talked about and potentially removing 40,000 troops out of
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south korea. >> no need to be polling at 15% nationally to be invited to debate clinton and trump. how do you like that chances. >> i've been in three national polls which is three more national polls than i was in in 2012 but showing up at 10%, there have been 40 other national polls go by where my name hasn't appeared. so really key to this whole equation is being in the polls at the end of the day the presidential debate commission which really oversees a rigged game, it's democrats and republicans and they have no intention of seeing a third-party in the debates at the end of the day they'll say gary johnson didn't poll very well. what they won't say is gary johnson wasn't in any of these polls. >> it was a pleasure to talk to you. >> thank you. donald trump often mentions a case from california where a woman was killed by an
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undocumented immigrant who had been deported multiple times. the family of that woman is now suing u.s. immigration and others. more on that and we'll take you inside the pursuit of illegal immigrants who have been convicted of crimes, this time in chicago, one of hundreds of sanctuary cities to see what's at stake. ♪ ♪
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before the break we heard from the libertarian party nominee gary johnson. are you concerned about him taking votes away from donald trump. >> i met him here and very nice guy. he sounds like more of a liberal than a libertarian and i frankly think if he's going to take votes from anybody it will be hillary clinton, not donald trump. >> what do you think. >> i don't think so necessarily but in a year where you have 44% of the american people saying they're open to a third-party candidate i think gary johnson will get more of a look than he has in the past. >> he's polling at 10% even though most polls don't bring up his name.
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>> in pennsylvania we go by electoral college. a couple of percentage points could shift that. >> do you think he takes away. >> if you look at how well hillary clinton has been doing with young people under 30 which she's been crushed by bernie sanders there's a huge opportunity for the libertarians. they're going to appeal by message and in terms of style to lots of voters so they could do well. they will do better than they did in the last election. >> it's going to be a close race and everybody who covered election 2000 remembers ralph nader and they believe that's what turned the election against them. nobody is too small to disrupt an election this time around i don't think. i think you have to pay attention to everything. >> i think in particular while he's a libertarian so less government will appeal in certain ways to voters, i think the trade issue will appeal to
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conservatives but i think it's important for us to keep these third-party candidates in the conversation. i think it's important for us to have these people in the conversation because they matter and they can win if we vote for them. >> they can win the presidency. >> if enough people vote for them. >> that's how it works. >> theoretically. >> hillary clinton, do you think she knows how to campaign against donald trump and do you think her campaign knows how to counter donald trump. >> absolutely. i think the campaign is running two races right now. we're finishing the democratic primary and preparing to run in the general election and i have no doubt when we fully move into the general election you're going to see the secretary be even sharper and more on point and more directed as it relates to the real threat that donald trump is not just to the race but to the country. i think you're going do see the
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campaign and remember her campaign is much more developed than donald trump's is and donald trump's will ever be. there's a tremendous social media operation, a field operation where we see this message not just from her but in every single campaign. >> we had katrina on earlier who was saying donald trump gives press conferences and hillary clinton doesn't which is a valid point. >> one of the things that we were observing the reason he gets into this back and forth today is because he's answering questions in the first place. he does it all the time. i think at the end if you've got a candidate who shies -- she doesn't like to do this. the more she shies away from this and in his case he's exactly what most republican nominees have not been like which is why a lot of republicans like him because they think he fights and they did not. he clearly is going to take this right to her. >> other republican candidates
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during the primaries, as a reporter trying to get interviews it was like they were in the witness protection program. >> interestingly enough if you notice hillary clinton's been calling in to shows. she called in a couple of interviews which is new for her. sh she's going out to california because she's lost a 20 point lead. >> she has to call the control room though. >> she's recognizing she has to be more accessible because donald trump is going to keep doing this to her. >> her argument against trump today after this presser was that he would cause grid lock and i wasn't quite sure that this press conference showed that donald trump would cause grid lock. if i were hillary clinton after this presser i might have talked about the loose cannon temperament stuff. inside the hunt for undocumented immigrants who have been convicted of crimes and are back on the streets in cities like chicago. r.
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together we can solve child hunger. support feeding america and your local food bank at feedingamerica.org. just as the memorial day weekend was beginning the family of kate stineley filed a lawsuit against a former sheriff and two u.s. agencies. she was shot on a san francisco pier last july while walking with her father, the man accused of killing her had been deported five times to mexico. the shooting happened weeks after donald trump entered the presidential race and became part of the heated debate over immigration policy. the lawsuit that the family filed takes aim at san francisco's sanctuary policy which limits local law enforcement cooperation with federal immigration authorities. when local authorities release an undocumented immigrant from jail immigration agents aren't
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told. hundreds of cities have these policies including chicago. pamela brown went on a team and here is what she saw. >> reporter: the under the cloak of darkness in chicago an enforcement team gears up for another long day pursuing undocumented immigrants who have been convicted of crimes in the u.s. >> we have three targets this morning. >> reporter: the team supervisor. >> the first two aggravated felons and drug tracking and the third one is possible guns in the situation so we have to make sure we're prepared for that as well. let's roll. >> reporter: the undocumented convicts they're going after were released from the cook county jail without immigration officials being notified. >> you're blood pressure goes up. >> reporter: the first target, a convicted cocaine dealer from mexico who was arrested again
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and convicting of dui and released on probation. >> this individual we could have had from local authorities when he was released. >> reporter: it turns out this is the targets brother. he's committed no crime and he's released. officials say mistakes like this are made and endless man hours wasted trying to find people they could have picked up at the local jail were it not for a cook county law prohibiting local police and jail officials from even notifying >> if we were able to arrest them while they're incarcerated, another law enforcement agents, it would be a much better situation. >> he'd be arrested for driving under the influence.
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>> isis had interaction with him before, right? >> yes. he's been arrested, removed and came back. >> cook county and chicago are among the 300 so-called sanctuary jurisdictions across the country, including miami, new york city and los angeles. >> i came to chicago as an immigrant at 9 years of age. the reason that we came up in a policy in cook county for dealing with ice detainers is because people were being stopped, arrested for minor infractions. >> reporter: garcia said it prevents people from being convicted illegally. why do these people belong in your community? >> i'm not saying they belong in my community. i'm saying the overwhelming majority of immigrants are law
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abiding, hard working individuals making contributions to our country and our society. >> reporter: as the sun rises on chicago, the risk for the team ramps up. >> the whole tempo gets escalated. there's a lot of risks when we're having to do this out on the street like this. it's always a risk to ourselves, the officers, to innocent bystanders. >> reporter: the team finds its third target working at this auto shop on the north side of chicago, a twice-deported felon with two dui convictions according to ice. then agents realize his brother is also there. >> why are you checking the brother? >> based on his preliminary, he looks like he's also illegal. we're just going to verify it with some of the enough technology. >> they use a new mobile fingerprint scanner on the brother to see if he's ever been stopped by immigration officials before. and just then an agent takes off as a third person runs out the
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back door. they catch him seconds later. if there's a hit with the biometric testing, he'll be brought to the contract center? >> his wife looks on worried. he's never had any issues with immigration officials before so ice lets him go. >> i was set free. >> reporter: why? >> i don't know. sometimes they just take you. i guess this time i'm not one of those. >> reporter: even they though came to the u.s. illegally, they don't have criminal records. part of president obama's program, those having a criminal record and anyone crossing the
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border illegally. with nearly 11 million undocumented immigrants in the u.s. right now, ice has to prioritize who it goes after. >> we're not interested in rounding up people who have been in this country for years, who have become integrated into society. we're interested in the worse of the worst. >> reporter: they questioned and detained a couple of undocumented immigrants and they were released because they didn't have criminal records. >> i wish you went on every case because that's not what happens. >> reporter: the team made four arrests this day. the one they couldn't find, a convicted child molester who has
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been arrested and deported before. >> it's very disconcerting that we couldn't arrest that person today. >> how does ice know to pursue these convicts if they're not notified about their release. >> reporter: ice finds out when an immigrant is arrested because the database gets pinged. ice agents have to track public records to try to figure out when an undocumented criminal is going to be released and sometimes they tell us that they don't find out until well after that person is out already on the streets and then they say it's a real challenge trying to find them. i should know, though, anderson, that there are some sanctuary cities across the u.s. that have started to at least notify ice when an undocumented criminal is going to be released. tomorrow night in part two of our exclusive series, we speak to one of the men arrested by
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keeping the power lines clear,my job to protect public safety, while also protecting the environment. the natural world is a beautiful thing, the work that we do helps us protect it. public education is definitely a big part of our job, to teach our customers about the best type of trees to plant around the power lines. we want to keep the power on for our customers.
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we want to keep our community safe. this is our community, this is where we live. we need to make sure that we have a beautiful place for our children to live. together, we're building a better california. big noise today in politics
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today. we'll dig into the question people are asking, would hillary clinton ask bernie sanders to be her vice president. "cnn tonight" starts now. >> i've watched you on television. you're a real beauty. >> i'm don lemon. the mogul who wants to be your next president taking aim at reporters at trump towers today. >> i think the political press is among the most dishonest people that i've ever met. this sleazy guy right over here from abc, he's a sleaze in my book. you think i'm going to change? i'm not changing. >> that doesn't matter to voters but it doesn't sit well with hillary clinton. she tells our jake tapper this. >> i've said many times and as senator sanders has said, we both are going to do anything we can to prevent donald trump from gett