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tonight, barack obama back in the campaign trail. sort of. making a passionate case during a speech in indiana, coming out swinging against republican ideas and, of course, donald trump, even though he actually never said the words "donald trump." just moments ago, the president explained why. >> he's -- seems to do a good job mentioning his own name.
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so i think -- you know. i'll let him do his advertising for him. >> michelle kosinski is "outfront." we see him in that interview putti putting humorous twist on it. it was anything but that today. a significant speech in which he took on donald trump again and again. what was the strategy in doing that without using his name. >> this is interesting. it was energetic, his shirt sleeves rolled up. he was relaxed president obama on the campaign trail, but not quite on the campaign trail. i mean, he's not even mentioning names at this point. but we know from white house sources that he's been itching to get out there. and this was long. it was an hour at times fiery and shouting. and he threw everything in there. i mean, you look at where we are. this is a place where in 2008, he won. but then was absolutely trounced in 2012. today he called it a whooping. this is a place where bernie sanders just won the primary. so he wanted to do two things. first, tout his policies.
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and how the economy has turned around. even though the republican governor there just said that the economy has turned around in spite of president obama's policies. but also, he wanted to hammer the republican rhetoric. again, not mentioning any names. he wouldn't mention donald trump. he even -- when people started booing the candidate as he referred to him, he told them not to. but here's what he did say. >> don't think that actually this agenda is going to help you. it's not designed to help you. and the evidence of the last 30 years, not to mention common sense, should tell you that their answers to our challenges are no answers at all! >> reporter: president obama hit out at senicism, on voting out of fear, or based on provocative tweets. i wonder who he's referring to there. the question is, you know, are his words going to register at all with the voters that he is trying to tackle here, those who
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are considering or already are, voting republican. erin? >> michelle, thank you. my panel is back with me. also joining me, the executive chairman of the new york state democratic party, also a hillary clinton supporter. jason, let me start with you. trump was the guy who got the whole birther thing going, right? the birther in chief, people called him. he hired private investigators to go to hawaii to see if donald trump was actually born there. something a lot of people feel is deeply racist. this is not just political for barack obama. this is personal. >> well, this argument that trump is racist because he did that. i mean, i think is -- ridiculous. i mean, the fact of the matter is, trump appeals to people because he speaks exactly how they speak. he doesn't speak like a politician. when you go to these rallies, and you hear people that come up to him and say, you know, thank you so much for saying it like i say it. that's the appeal of donald trump. is that he is not a politician that's polished -- i mean, that is sitting here speaking like a robot and saying the things that
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we're suppose -- so for us in the inside the beltway or for the media to try and continue to say why isn't he doing this, it's an exercise in futility. because he's going to continue to operate the way he does. >> bob, this is not the first time that president obama has taken shots at donald trump. but most of them have been, you know, questions and answers or even humorous. this was the first time he did it this way. but it is far from the only time he slammed him. here he is. >> no one is prouder to put this birth certificate matter to rest than the donald. and that's because he can finally get back to focusing on the issues that matter. like did we fake the moon landing. i mean, imagine what trump would say if he actually had a record like this. instead of selling steaks. >> i continue to believe mr. trump will not be president. this is not entertainment.
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this is not a reality show. >> does he risk making this too personal, basel? >> not at all. i would start by just saying, i disagree that what trump is saying is reflective of how most people talk. i don't know most people that call mexicans rapists and murderers. so when you add the sort of obama component into it, i think obama standing up for a few things. he's standing up for the communities that supported him, number one, in both 2008 and 2012. he is standing up also for his policies, particularly obamacare, the affordable care act, his signature policy issue. so i think, yeah, i would argue that there is some version of it that might be a little personal. because the donald came after him very directly. but at the same time, he needs to be back out on that campaign trail, because i think there's a lot more at stake than just this particular presidential election. i think some of it is also his legacy. >> will he use the personal connection here? will he go there on the birther issue, president obama, as he campaigns?
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>> not very much. not very much. although i do think it's deeply personal. and, you know, i think he hates the guy. and i think more than that, he has great disdain for him. you know, when you're in the oval office, you worry a lot. you really become sort of like a protector of the country, in effect. and you see somebody come along. if you see your successor come along and say this guy is no good, look what i have done. i think that moves him too. but i think, most of all, he's fighting for his legacy. if donald trump were to win this election, his legacy goes smash. the voters have rejected his economic policy. all things he's done, somehow then get diminished by that. so it's not unnatural. i think he's going to come out swinging in the whole campaign. listen, bill clinton traditionally has been able to tell the story better of the nominee of his party than the nominee can. and i think that -- obama is going to be able to tell the story well for hillary. >> mark? >> you know, a couple things. talk about the pure politics of where he helps. he helps had he raise money, he helps her with millennials,
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which he's had difficulty with, with bernie sanders. right? he helps drive up the african-american vote. we know it's going to overwhelmingly go 96, 97% for hillary clinton. but you can still drive up the number in key states, okay? the percentage will still be there. but i look at barack obama kind of as a whole of many people. barack obama, joe biden, who then goes out and helps hillary clinton in the rust belt states. michelle obama, potentially, a rock star, certainly a democratic party. jill biden, your vice presidential nominee, as well, and then, of course, you have bill clinton. those are pretty powerful surrogates to have heading into november. >> but those are people going out for the base. i mean, they're turning out the base that should be within the beginning. you've got joe biden, who hasn't been overwhelming a supporter of hillary clinton. >> independents? they went for obama. he comes out now, and aggressively campaigns. is he going to swing them? >> i think he does help incredibly with independent voters. but let's also talk about the
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party as a whole. he helps with building the democratic party, because there are -- particularly people in my position, care about these down ballast races. he helps that too. >> thank you all very much. and next, just released, the frantic 911 calls made after a boy falls into a gorilla pen. >> he's got the baby and it's still alive. but he's dragging him from one end to the other. oh, my god. >> our special report on the gorilla's behavior. was he about to hurt or help that little boy. and my exclusive interview with one of the world's most powerful businessmen. i asked him why he chose not to do business with donald trump. if you have allergy congestion, muddling through your morning is nothing new. ...your nose is the only thing on your mind... ...and to get relief, anything is fair game. introducing rhinocort® allergy spray from the makers of zyrtec®. powerful relief from your most frustrating nasal allergy symptom* ,all day and all night. hasn't your nose been through enough already?
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tonight, the parents of the toddler who fell into the gorilla pit say they won't sue the cincinnati zoo. they released a statement saying their son is doing well after the incident. tonight we're hearing the calls to 911 for the first time. miguel marquez is "outfront." >> cincinnati 911. what is the -- >> hi, my son fell in the zoo exhibit at the gorillas. this is cincinnati zoo. my son fell in with the gorilla. there is a male gorilla standing
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over him. i need someone to contact the zoo, please. >> reporter: a frantic mother seeking help. in a nightmare scenario. >> be calm! he's dragging my son. i can't watch this. i can't watch. >> reporter: harambe, a 450-pound male gorilla, a 3-year-old boy in his powerful hands. >> the yelling of the crowd and his face, what do you think is happening here? >> i think that is agitating him almost as much as the fact that he has this alien novel object, this child, in the exhibit with him. >> reporter: dr. craig stanford, co director of usc's jane goodall research center as extensively studied great apes in the wild. >> if he had intent to do harm, which i don't think there was any intent to do harm in this video, it could be over in seconds. split second. >> reporter: this is fascinating to me. he picks him up -- >> there is some curiosity there. he's making looking for a hand
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hold to manipulate this small boy and figure out what's going on here, what is this child about. >> reporter: this is not a first. it happened at other zoos. in 1986, a 5-year-old fell into a gorilla enclosure, and passed out. jambo, a 25-year-old male, first comforted the boy, then ran away when he woke and started to cry. in 1996, an 8-year-old female gorilla cared for a 3-year-old boy who badly injured himself when he fell into the enclosure. neither gorilla was harmed. >> oh, my gosh! >> reporter: harambe's actions harder to understand. >> in the wild, a silverback agitated will do exactly that with a sappeling tree that they're snap or a log you pick it up. they'll just drag it along. >> reporter: if he's crying, expressing that sort of emotion in front of the gorilla -- >> i think if anything, it serves to heighten the stress level of the gorilla. >> reporter: on the zoo's
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decision to use lethal force, stanford says, there was no other option. >> that's the tragedy. and everybody is picking sides. and we should all just be obviously siding with the gorilla. because that's the true victim here. >> two other things that dr. sanford said that were interesting. gorillas don't like water so he was very curious, very confused to have gone into the water after the kid. also, that child was very, very lucky the water was there. if it wasn't, he probably would have dragged him over dry ground, cement, or gravel, and really injured him. >> but at the bottom line, he said the gorilla really the victim, and they knew was confused, curious, but not hostile. >> not hostile, not angry, not threatened, but just very, very confused. not sure how to react. >> heart breaking. thank you very much, miguel. and "outfront" next, donald trump. he wants to do more business in dubai. but the top real estate developer there tells me, "not so fast." >> i think it would be very difficult to do business with somebody that makes such
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asked him if he is following the u.s. election. >> i am watching because i am american educated, i love america so i watch it. some of my friends that are american educated very curious, we go home to watch what's going on today because it's hilarious, it is fun, it is entertaining. and i was surprised. >> you met with donald trump, at one point were considering a partnership with him here in dubai. what do you think of him? >> you know, when i met him, he is a sweet guy, short meeting we had in new york. i thought he had good common sense. so he was a down to earth smart guy. >> you decided at that time not to do a partnership with him. what were your reasons? >> well, he was interested in doing some work with us on the tower and i said, you know, what type of business, he said i can
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do branding for you, charge a fee. i am sold, i don't need any branding. but you know, i told him, i said in the middle east when you say donald, the age group in the middle east, they associated donald with disneyland. i mean, that's something we laughed about together. i said the georgio armani of the world, that name associated be disneyworld. in this part of the world, it doesn't mean anything but that. >> donald -- >> that's how we grew up, they're my customer. they don't know who is donald trump in the middle east. >> so will he be able to keep doing business here given the things he has said about muslims? >> i would say it would be difficult, some of the comments he is doing them for the politics for the u.s., you know, he is a wise man, he's a smart man, but doesn't resonate well with people in the middle east. >> donald trump's proposed ban
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on muslims coming to the u.s., doubled down on it, tripled down on it. in march, i will quote him, i think islam hates us, there's something there that's a tremendous hatred there, we have to get to the bottom of it. there's an unbelievable hate rest of us. this is the presumptive nominee. >> saying that for political reasons, but that's so untrue. i think the region loves the u.s. in general, the way america carries itself and provides services from education to health care to starbucks to apple to google, facebook, you name it. i just think this is so untrue. you look at the leadership in the region, most that run government and business, they have loyalty to america, they have love for america. and normal people on the street as well. >> you come and go to the united states, you were jetd there, children, you have a home there,
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if donald trump is president of the united states, you might not be able to come there. how does that make you feel? >> i don't think it will happen, i don't think that's going to happen. i think this is so ridiculous, but if that really happens, of course i'll be unhappy person, but the world has so many other countries we can go to. the world is full of so many gorgeous faces. it would be unfortunate. >> and the mayor of london, first muslim mayor of london, donald trump said i will give an exception. he said i am not going to have any part of that, i don't want to be part of an exception. the whole concept of this is fundamentally wrong. >> could be serving some political agenda for certain segment of the society, but i think at the end of the day i think that america has great institution, i think the results will be fine. even if mr. trump win, america
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his play book. >> reporter: donald trump is famous. >> sit down, you weren't called. >> reporter: how to handle the media. >> the press should be ashamed of themselves. the press, look at all of the cameras. sit down, silt down, sit down. >> reporter: maybe he should sit down and read his own trump university media guidelines, the play book included tips for dealing with the media such as expect to be scrutinized. >> i like scrutiny but you know what, when i raise money, excuse me, i watched you on television, you're a real beauty, nowhere on the list does it say humiliate the press. >> even the horrible press, look at all those people. >> reporter: nowhere does it say treat the press with condescension. >> are you ready? do you have your pad? >> reporter: some of the actual media tips could be useful. reporters are rarely on your side and they're not sympathetic, and just as trump
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excuses some mexicans. >> they're bringing crime, they're rapists, and some i assume are good people. >> reporter: he also gives some reporters a past. >> disgusting reporters, horrible people. some of nice. >> reporter: from a reporter's point of view, the play book's last media tip is our favorite. remember, courtesy gets you a long way. donald definitely didn't read that one. >> reporter: like this sleazy guy here from abc, he's a sleaze. >> reporter: trump's harshest insult. >> absolute scum, remember that. >> reporter: okay. we will try to remember. >> scum, scum, scum. >> reporter: maybe the donald needs to write up some new press guidelines, i am here to take your compliments might be a good one. jimmy fallon as trump pronounced the donald's golden rule of media management. >> the only one qualified to interview me is me. >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn, new york.
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thanks for joining us, you can watch outfront on the go. ac 360 starts now. good evening, thanks for joining us. we begin with people that call the operation known as trump university a fraudulent scheme and total lie, not the alleged victims who are suing in federal court, these are former staffers giving sworn statements in the case, describing giving some of the most financially vulnerable people imaginable the kind of aim for their last dollar. as you know, we have been covering this since january, and the impact on the traul campaign. we got late reaction from the trump campaign and hillary clinton. here's a bit of what she said on the campaign trail. >> this is just more evidence that donald trump himself is a fraud.
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