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tv   Anderson Cooper 360  CNN  June 2, 2016 8:00pm-9:01pm PDT

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we are beginning this hour with breaking news tonight. you can see donald trump just finishing up a rally in san jose, california, with thousands of his supporters there but there are protests outside this rally in california tonight as a the candidate is signing autographs inside. on the day trump finally wins a lukewarm endorsement from speaker of the house paul ryan, donald trump doubles down on his attacks on the judge presiding over the lawsuit against trump university insisting he has a conflict over what trump calls his mexican heritage. then he tweets this.
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"after the litigation is disposed of and the case won, i have instructed my executives to open trump u. so much interest in it. i will be pres." we'll talk to a woman who attended trump university and we'll keep an eye on the protests in san jose, california. sara murray is outside where the trump protests are spreading. sara, what's going on? >> don, the most tense moments so far have been when trump supporters have been leaving this event. we've seen protesters here try to pick them off, corner them. there was one woman they egged. they spit in another couple's face. there have been near fights but for the most part they have been broken up. i think you can see behind me, police are moving forward, changing a perimeter as protesters have marched down the street. for the most part it has largely been non-violent. it's largely been chanting but the most tense moments are when these protesters are closing in as a large group around one or two trump supporters as they're
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leaving the event. this as we always expect is the most tense time of the night, when trump supporters and protesters get as close as they're going to get to each other throughout the evening. you can see by the police moving forward that their goal is to keep them as far apart as possible. >> we have seen some really terrible things, like the burning of the american flag, jumping on cars outside of the building there. and they're saying some really awful things. from what you can say on television. what are they saying about donald trump? >> there are a lot of expletives. inside donald trump said he loves hispanics but outside we're getting a much different sense from the protesters. they have many signs they're holding up calling donald trump a racist, saying he wants to kick them out of the country. it was interesting talking to the protesters because they're chanting chants of non-violence, of acceptance saying love trumps hate and a number of them acknowledge when you have their peers out here throwing eggs,
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shout iing expletives it undermines their message so there are two different types of protesters. donald trump supporters are clashing with the donald trump opponents. some saying "f socialism" and the other saying "f trump." >> we've only seen pushing and shoving. the most tense moment we've seen is there was one woman egging on the protesters, antagonizing them. she was by herself and a group of protesters cornered her. you see a fight breaking out right now. this is what i'm saying. when you see trump supporters leaving the event. protesters are shouting in their faces. so far this has not escalated to intense violence but as it continues there's a risk of that. >> and sara, talk to us about
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the amount of -- are there poli police? are they intervening? >> there are police. right now we're standing police have not intervening. they set up a perimeter outside of the event and outside of the hotels where protesters were cornering trump supporters. now we saw them a little bit earlier march past me. it looks like they're moving up this street to secure up there and maybe stop the protesters up at this intersection. we've seen protesters stopping traffic but it's not clear how long they'll let them continue this before they ask them to disperse, don. >> sara, earlier we saw protesters in big groups. now it appears -- and correct me if i'm wrong, they're moving around. how many people are we talking about and are they starting to disperse? >> so earlier they were all centered directly outside of the convention center, it looked like a large group. now you're seeing them move
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around the convention center so rather than all being in the same block in front, we've seen them disperse around the entire block. so it's hard to get a sense of how many there are. i would say a couple hundred at the most. definitely much larger than a couple hours ago. >> and what appears to be their -- does this have to do with his immigration stance? what appears to be their main thing? are they just anti-donald trump? >> a number of them are protesting his immigration policies, a number of union members here as well. you can see right now there's an altercation between trump supporters out here with their signs. we've seen a lot of this tonight, don. people trying to rip donald trump signs out of people's hands and throw them on the ground. a lot of what we've seen has been immigration and people protesting the wall. >> sara murray doing a great job outside of this rally in san jose, california, where
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protesters have gathered and some of them for donald trump and some of them against donald trump. we'll continue to monitor that for you. i want to go to the man who has been following this campaign. jim acosta. jim, you were at the rally inside. there were probably no doubt way more people inside of this rally tonight in support of donald trump, tonight, though, let's get to the meat of the issue here. in the "wall street journal," basically doubling down on his criticism of the judge in the trump university case and he said -- mr. trump said u.s. district judge gonzalo curiel had an absolute conflict in presiding over the litigation given that he was of mexican heritage and a member of the latino lawyers' association. mr. trump said the background of the judge born in indiana to mexican immigrants was relevant because of his campaign stance against illegal immigration and his pledge to seal the southern u.s. border. i am building a wall, it is an inherent conflict of interest." that's what mr. trump said. did he discuss what he said in this piece at this rally?
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>> he did not, don. though he has been tweeting about the case all day long earlier today. he tweeted that it was his plan to reopen trump university after this case is litigated out in court. he feel this is case is going to be decided in his favor. he instructed his executives to reopen what is a now defunct trump university. so he did talk about it on twitter. he did not talk about it at this event but i thought it was very interesting moments after he came out and spoke to this crowd here in san jose, california, he saw a sign in the crowd that said "latinos for trump" and he said -- he commented on that sign and then said "we love the hispanics." so maybe not a direct comment on the judge in the trump university case, gonzalo curiel, but he did say "we love the hispanics" as he walked out here in front of this crowd in san jose and just as a very quick
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aside, don, i'm inside where this rally took place here earlier this evening. we should point out no problems inside the event. it appears anything that's happening is really happening outside of this venue. >> jim, is he going to ask judge curiel to recuse himself? >> say that again? >> is he asking judge curiel to recuse himself? >> he basically is. he's basically saying that the judge in this case has a conflict of interest. and, don, earlier this week i asked donald trump at this press conference at trump tower why do you keep bringing up the ethnicity of this judge because it was last week around this time where donald trump said oh, by the way, the judge handing the case is mexican. he said not that there's anything wrong with that. and this isn't the first time he's talked about the ethnicity of this judge. it was earlier this year in arkansas, i believe, i was at that rally where he talked about the mexican heritage of judge gonzalo curiel. and we should point out, judge curiel is of mexican descent but
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he was born in indiana tomigran. he's not commenting on the case because judges can't comment on political matters and his office can't comment as well but in his "wall street journal" article he's going way beyond what he said earlier this week at the press conference at trump tower where he didn't answer the question and just said "i'm a man of principle, that's why i keep bringing this up." but definitely, don, he's doubling down and then some in this "wall street journal" article? >> jim acosta, san jose, thanks as always. appreciate that. donald trump doubling down today on trump university. i want to bring in a woman who saw it all from the inside. sherry winkleman. she attended trump u and joins me now. hi, sherry, how are you? >> good, thank you. >> you're a former rump university student. do you believe it was a proud? >> absolutely. no doubt in my mind. >> so you believe it was a
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fraud. >> i do believe. >> you want to talk more about that? about why? >> yes, first of all, i signed up for the three-day introductory seminar at $1495 and we were told by the end of the first day that if we didn't want to stay for the three days we could have our money refunded. i asked the instructor direct questions, they completely evaded answering them so i started getting upset, feeling this was not an actual learning seminar but maybe just an upselling seminar. i tried to get my money back and two other instructors were brought over and basically cornered me, telling me that i just didn't understand the material, i was confused, it's overwhelming, it's real estate, after all, i'm a newbie, if i just stay for three days everything will become clear. so i had a very hard time from the get-go trying to get my money back. >> okay. so $1495. $1495, we're talking about? >> that was the initial seminar.
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>> that's not chump change, that's a pretty good chunk of money. so you tried to cancel your agreement and get your money back and you fought it. how did that play out? >> well, what happened after that is i didn't receive my money back from the first day seminar and they had gotten all of our financial information in the first day of the seminar, under the guise of working with us to achieve our real estate goal, we were going to become part of the trump family, we were going to be mentored for a year. that was the gold package which was $35,000. i didn't sign up for it by the end of the three days, however i was contacted continuously after the seminar. >> this is the one that's -- this is the gold package, which is basically $35,000 as you said. what kind of people were sign ing up for that $35,000 package? >> a lot of seniors that had
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lost money in the stock market so they were working with trying to rebuild their retirement. there was some husband and wife teams. i partnered up with a soldier that had just returned. there was a couple veterans there from iraq. he had gotten blown up in a tanker, he was on an honorable discharge and he was trying to rebuild his life. >> how were they paying for this? >> he wrote a check and later the veterans' lawyers were able to help him with his case. >> but how were the other people paying for it? just flat out? these weren't wealthy people, were they? >> no, what they did was really pressure people. the mentors singled out the people they that they saw from theble financial statements had available credit lines because we filled out our checkings, savings, credit cards, credit limits, balances. so the second day of the seminar the mentors that we were supposed to be working with actually took us outside of the
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room privately to help us work on our real estate goals and basically had really pressured people into calling their credit card companies to up their credit limits so they could pay for these seminars. >> you appeared in an ad for an anti-trump pac during the primaries. tell us your story about trump university? why was that so important for you? >> why was my story so important? >> why was it so important for you to appear that this ad? >> i didn't appear in an ad. >> you appeared in an ad for an anti-trump pac during the primaries? >> no, i just posted on social media about my experience so that the american people would learn how i was hoodwinked and hopefully wake up and not have the same thing happen to them. . so this was your social media site. this wasn't an ad, but people saw it and now it has gained momentum on the internet. >> correct. >> why was that so important? so you could tell your
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experience? >> absolutely. i mean, this man is running for the highest office in the land. he's supposed to be a servant of the people and if he's a billionaire real estate mogul why on earth does he need to set up a university that actually just does nothing but upsell seminars? it didn't deliver any valid real estate learning. nobody came away with any more information about real estate when they went in. they came away severely in debt but with no more education. so if a man that has means like that is not willing to teach people that are honest and willing to pay for knowledge, i can't imagine what he's capable of doing to this entire country. that's my deep concern. >> how do you feel about him possibly becoming president? >> i'm absolutely -- very disturbed, very worried for the american people and very worried for the entire world. i feel like he's hoodwinking the entire american public in a very large way just like all of us.
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there were thousands of us as part of this trump university scandal. it's not a small number. >> he has people in an ad who are saying they got something good out of the courses out of trump university. what do you say to them? >> i think they were highly pressured into making those statements. nobody that i know of actually completed it because my mentor never called me after i signed up. i never got any e-mail support. i never got any documents. i never got a game plan and when my partner attended the first seminar, he came away from it mortified because the same package that we had paid $35,000 for they offered as a group mentorship for only $15,000. so we were infuriated. >> you did get your money back, good for you. thank you, sheri, appreciate it. >> you're welcome. when we come back, more on donald trump's attacks tonight on the judge presiding over the lawsuits against trump university. why is he going after the judge now? good, clean salad, every ingredient is the main ingredient. the new green goddess cobb with avocado, bacon, freshly made dressing, tomato...
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donald trump in an interview tonight saying the judge presiding over the trump university case has an absolute conflict due to his mexican heritage and his membership in a latino lawyers group. here to discuss, cnn political commentator bob beckel, jeffrey toobin, senior cnn analyst and kal kal kaley m
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kaley mcenany. how do you defend this? >> well, he gave a scholarship to an illegal immigrant and donald trump thinks he's part of an organization of immigrants being in our colleges so they might be biased against me for having a hard line it's also fair to criticize the actions but i think he needs to diverse the heritage. >> jeffrey, as a lawyer and our senior legal analysts on cnn, this is a quote from the "wall street journal," this is trump about judge curiel. what do you make? he said -- that he's of mexican heritage and is a member of, i think he says la raza or a mexican of a latino lawyers' association. jeffrey, what do you think of this? >> i mean, you know, don, this is not close.
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this is really outrageous. let's check the organization. there is a political advocacy organization called la raza which does take very strong stance on immigration and things like that. that is not the group the judge is a part of. he's part of a different group also called la raza which is simply fraternal organization, there are women judge's associations, there are cla catholic judge's association, jewish judge's association, they are not controversial, it is never ground for recusal. the other part is everybody more outrageous. the idea that a judge simply because of his heritage has to recuse himself has never been part of the system, women judges decide sex discrimination cases all the time. african-american judges decide race cases.
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catholic judges, jewish judges. >> white judges decide on black issues, racial issues. but go on. >> it's simply not part of the american legal system to make this demand and i don't see any explanation for this other than, i'm sorry to say, bigotry. >> bob, before your reaction i have to ask kayleigh as to what he was saying. he's of mexican heritage but he's an american, he was born here. is donald trump saying black judges can't be impartial? that's a huge statement to make. >> i don't think so. in that statement he made to the "wall street journal" he mentions the affiliation with the organization which makes me believe he's more concerned than the heritage in general. >> but that organization is not the la raza organization of the immigration organization.
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the one with strong stances about immigration. that's a lawyer's group as jeffrey pointed out. >> but his local chapter of the organization he does belong to, they're both call lad rzasa, one is la raza lawyers. so the chapter of the organization he belongs to gave a scholarship to an illegal immigrant. they endorsed the notion of illegal immigrants being in college. whatever you think of that, donald trump thinks that because he endorse this is organization he will be biased against him and he couples that with the fact that this judge unsealed documents relevant to the case, not sure why, then tries to reseal them because he didn't screen out the information he should have i agree with donald trump it should have been dismissed on summary judgment. he has reasons to believe the judge is biased. he's probably not, i don't know but he has claims and he's putting them out there. >> bob? what's your reaction. >> my reaction is i don't know what more he can do to seal any mexican americans or any latinos from coming to vote for him. this is about as far as you can get towards the -- it is
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bigotry. let's face it. it's flat out bigotry. here's the problem with donald trump. he has no discipline. if you run for president of the united states, it requires discipline and a disciplined candidate would not have said this. the only reason he said it was this judge got him angry. so he got him angry, so what? i assume his wife gets him angry. that doesn't mean he ought to use the presidential podium he's running for to lash out a judge in a case that has nothing do with the american people are. >> jeffrey? >> well, i mean, you know, i'm sort of speechless about this because there is not i don't know whether trump university was fraudulent, that's why they're going to have a trial. there are arguments on both sides and trump is entitled to any sort of opinion. judges are not immune from criticism in this country. butch the idea that a judge has to recuse himself because he's of mexican heritage because one
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of the parties in the case is a political candidate who has taken a political position about relations between the united states and mexico, that's just way outside anything that american jurisprudence, american judges have ever been subjected to before. it's outrageous. >> is this seen as a deflection? the judge has been on the case since 2014 and some believe the timing is suspect here. is it to draw attention maybe away if something else or -- i don't know. >> i mean, you know, it's hard for me to believe that this was a carefully thought out strategy on donald trump's part because everybody his supporters are appalled by this comment so i don't really -- i can't articulate what the strategy might be or what the timing might be. i mean the only timing issue that i can think of is that the judge made him mad, the judge ruled against him. but you know what? anybody who's been in court knows that sometimes the judge is going to rule against you and
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sometimes that makes you angry. but you can't start calling the judge biased because of his background. i mean, that's just not something that people do. >> you know, the other thing is, let's stop trying to analyze a strategy here. the fact is donald trump has no strategy. what his strategy is is developed when he stands in front of a crowd. you think his handlers off to the side were happy to hear him say this? do you think they were happy to see him beat up on the press the other day? if it was my candidate i'd never have another press conference. this guy is an undisciplined non-strategic candidate who happens to have a very big mouth. >> yeah. and i know that from some of the surrogates who have come on the show, bob is right, there are many of his surrogates who are saying i don't understand why he said this or maybe he should not have said it or he should have phrased it differently. >> yeah, i don't know why he said it either but sometimes he goes too far. he speaks, he's very off-the-cuff, it's his greatest asset and one of his biggest
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back now, cnn's sara murray outside the trump event in san jose. what's going on outside? are the protests spreading? >> don, right now you can see police are moving protesters back. i'm joined by ian parsons, he's 15 years old. we caught sight of ian because he was sprinting away from a group of donald trump protesters. ian, give me a sense of what was happening there. why did we see you running away from that group? >> well, what first happened was i was walking back to my car and this one african-american male came up to me, he was probably about like 21 i'd say, he came up to me and knocked my hat off so i turned around and looked, what happened to my hat, and i looked at the guy and he started like screaming at me so, like, i don't know what happened, like, that much after that i just started walking away because i didn't want to like cause any problems so then i went and i just started walking and then like a big group of people, like
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a pack of animals came chasing after me. >> is that when you started running? >> uh-huh. >> what was going through your head? >> i don't know. i was like scared but i was also kind of laughing because of like how immature and how they weren't peaceful protesting. like they were actually being violent. >> is this what you expected to be happening when you were leaving the event? did you have any idea this would be welcoming you. >> i didn't think anything could be this bad. >> does this give you second thoughts about going to another trump event? >> no, i still support trump but the people who support him are not very -- well, most of them are fine but as you can see here a lot of them that are here right now aren't very nice. >> we're glad you're safe, thank you for talking with us. >> thank you. >> as you can see behind me, police are moving this line forward, protesters have taken over this intersection a few minutes ago. that's where we saw ian parsons running away from them. police are trying to move the
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agitators out of the way, it's much calmer here right now than a few minutes ago as police have closed in around this intersection, don. >> sara, where are they running off to, do you know? >> you can see them, they're running off to close down it looks like the other end of the block although there aren't any other protesters taking up the street. they're headed down one block, which is market street. i think they want to secure this area and move protesters out of here. >> understood, duly noted. thank you, sara. i'll get back to you if you have any more information. sara murray outside where the rally was. let's discuss. bob beckel, jeffrey toobin, kayleigh mcenany. bob, what is the point to intimidating trump supporters? if you don't support trump, i understand, a peaceful protest is in order. burning the american flag, jumping on cars, what is going on here? >> well, what's going on is not good. this reminds me back in the anti-vietnam war days when some of us were peacefully protesting and others were burning flags
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and jumping on cars. it reflects badly on people against trump but you'll get that kind of thing when you get inflammatory statements like trump makes and you'll find any group of protesters will have a percentage of people who are very angry and out of control. that's what you see. and it's newsworthy. that's the most important thing, i think. the cameras focus on them and they know that. if it were up to hillary clinton, i'm sure she would prefer not to have them there. >> kayleigh, there's a tweet from john podesta. he says "violence against supporters of any candidate has no place in this election." >> i'm pleased to see that. we've been saying i want to hear from clinton and sanders for this to stop because these are protesters who come from the left and i have to disagree with bob that trump can be blamed for this. trump has put forward policy positions that have been summed up by many in the media oversimplified to be racist or xenophobic or what have you but
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nothing donald trump said is that and nothing he said can be responsible for third-party actions of people jumping on cars, beating a trump supporter to a pulp, burning american flags. there's no excuse for that ever and words cannot and should not provo provoke. >> that jeffrey, unless you want to jump in here, let's move on. >> let's not get carried away. in the united states this kind of protest has gone on for hundreds of years. it's not that big a deal, a bunch of people like the guy got his hat knocked off? i mean, you know, he shouldn't have his hat knocked off -- >> the last guy who got his hat knocked off and picked it up was beaten to a pulp and was taken off the scene. that was in costa mesa, california. >> yeah, i mean, there have been tens of thousands of people at these rallies, one person getting hurt is unacceptable but it's one person. i don't think anybody should, you know, think that this is a
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bigger deal than it is. >> let's move on and talk about policy. donald trump told the journal he thought hillary clinton's speech "it wasn't a foreign policy speech it was a hate speech." what's your reaction? >> i don't know where he sees the hate. i think what she said was that she outlined good foreign policy points, she was secretary of state. it's not as if donald trump is standing on firm ground here debating a former secretary of state on substance. so what he does is categorize her speech as something that is hateful when he said, for example, that bill clinton said that -- he called barack obama a racist. that's a lie. bill clinton never called barack obama anything anywhere near that. hillary clinton didn't hate barack obama. these are the kind of things donald trump says and he throws them out as if anybody is going to challenge it. now they'll start challenging it and that's his problem. he's gotten away with a fun ride here so far but the trump ride is over.
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>> jeffrey? >> and can we talk about substance here? one of the differences between secretary clinton and donald trump is should there be nuclear proliferation? should japan, should secretary, o -- south korea, our allies, have nuclear weapons? secretary clinton says no. donald trump has suggested yes. that is a serious policy difference between them. that's the kind of thing that it would be nice to talk about a little as opposed to just the name calling that has gone on so much. >> i completely agree with jeffrey. this campaign has been short on issues and i would love to get to substance and i think that's what this speech did for us which is a good thing. we can look into the record of hillary clinton and contrast it with donald trump who is on the right side of libya and iraq and leaving a stay behind force in iraq. clinton was on the opposite side of those things.
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like the "economist" pointed out, one of the reasons we had the reemergence of isis is because there was no stay behind force in iraq something that hillary clinton's state department and the obama administration oversaw. there's a lot of information we can get into. >> we'll be right back. don't bring that mess around here, evan!
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two cnn originals are here. our greats. they're used to speaking their minds about donald trump and hillary clinton and anything, morgan spurlock is the host of inside man, w kamau bell is here. tomorrow the season premier of "inside man" you play a professional gambler. >> living the vegas dream. >> if you were rolling the dice on this election, who would you bet on winning? >> i would still bet on hillary clinton right now. i think that -- i think right now the race is to the middle. like who's going to be able to attract the people in the middle from the republican side and
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democratic side. i think hillary clinton has a better chance of luring moderate republicans than he does of luring moderate democrats. >> some say he is tapping into this working middle-class anger, the feeling he's using -- >> working middle-class and lower class. >> he's using that to fuel his campaign. do you agree with that? >> i think there are a tremendous amount of people who feel disenfranchised who feel like the political system and america has run away without them in the last few years as the divide between rich and poor has continued to get greater and greater and greater and they've seen their money go smaller and smaller places so i think there are people who feel like they love somebody from the outside coming in and fighting against the man even though donald trump is the man. >> how did a billionaire get to not be the man? the greatest trick the devil ever played. >> you travel all over this country and one of the things he says is this p.c. culture is hurting america. >> political correctness is why i have my voting rights.
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political correctness is why "roots" is a remake and not a documentary about current america. [ laughter ] thank you, political correctness. political correctness is why my mom can vote. >> so what do you make of this? do you see it as he hear what is the working class people are saying? >> i feel like we say working class -- i know there are blacks for trump, i've been tweeted by the blacks for trump. the people exist. but when you say working class it's working -- >> working whites. >> yes, thank you, white guy. i brought a white guy. >> it's mostly like poor white people. >> but do you think poor white people -- >> not to diminish anything but do you think poor white people in america -- >> it's not just poor, it's middle-class, too. >> that the unemployment rate among african-americans, among latinos, they're higher than whites. do they -- do you think they realize that there are other
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people who may have it just as bad or worse than you do? >> no, because the whole country was founded on the idea -- like there were people who believe the country was founded by white people. i talk to those people in my first episode of "united shades of america." some people don't say it that explicitly, they say working class, good americans, christian. but i think they think america is for those people and if they're not doing well, they're not looking into other people. if i'm not doing well, somebody owes me a dollar. >> that's right, not to mention these other people who lived here long before all those white folks showed up. >> why you guys dising white people? you're white? >> i'm hiding. i thought i was hiding. i'm much more red. i am a bit of red. >> aren't you a california resident? >> yes i am, sir. >> what's going to happen there? >> i think as far as -- >> bernie. >> on the democratic side it will be a very tight race between bernie and hillary, bernie said he isn't leaving california until the california
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primary. >> bernie sanders is like. ♪ and i am telling you >> yes, he went to a warriors game. >> he's our dream guy. "inside man" premiers tomorrow night. let's watch a clip. >> i'm in las vegas, the gambling capital of america. my goal for my week of professional gambling is to double my money and i'm starting here at the casino with a thousand dollars in my pocket and the hope that lady luck is on my side. >> my more boots? >> if she is, what better place to start than with roulette, the game that's all about luck. >> change, $100. >> i'm cashing in my first $100 and placing my green chips around the table in the hope the roulette ball will land on one of my numbers. >> 27. >> whoo! >> so i go to vegas -- >> see, that easy. >> i just watch, i'm like i
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can't believe these people are just giving away their money. so you researched the secrets of high rollers, right? >> we sat down with a bunch of high rollers. >> can you beat the house? >> there's certain ways you can bet that will increase your odds but almost all of the games are structure sod the house has a small favor in every game. from roulette to blackjack to poker, you name it. >> you're up now. you go to, where, the northern most point in alaska? >> he went to las vegas and gambled and got free drinks, i went to america's northern most tip barrow alaska. they called it spring but it was 15 below. >> you're going to eat whale blubber and stuff. >> so this is the meat part, we cut them into slabs about this big. >> okay, all right, let me try salt, as an african-american, we put salt on everything. i'll try to put a little -- oh, that's a lot of salt. that's how my grandmother would have done it. i've never tasted anything like
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this before. you can really taste the meat. >> yup. >> is this a while you caught. >> the whale we were blessed with last fall. the way we look at whaling is we don't go out and catch the whale, we're blessed with it by god. a whale will offer itself to a captain or a crew that knows that will take care of its by assuring it with everybody in the community. >> was it like salt pork? or did it taste like chicken? >> no, it didn't taste like chicken, it tasted like ice chips and blood and i'm still chewing on it a little bit. i was very honored he let me taste it but i was like, yeah, that's for you. but i was honored, it was a big honor that he gave me some. >> you're so lucky. >> catch the season premier of "inside man" tomorrow night at 10:00 eastern. w kamau bell explores a remote alaskan town with a booming population. why did you get the longer plug? >> he's 6'4".
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[ laughter ] >> thank you, guys. appreciate it. up next, world class athletes descending on brazil for the summer olympics and holding their noses in the waters off the coast of rio. i asked my dentist if an electric toothbrush was
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marie callender starts her tuturkey breast to perfection. so that you can spend time on what really matters. marie callender's summer olympics begin in two months and the eyes of the world
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will be on brazil but anybody getting close to the waters around rio may want to look away and hold their noses. cnn's ivan watson explains. >> reporter: athletes training for peak performance. members of the german olympic sailing team preparing for what will be the first olympic female competition in this class of sailboat. on the surface, the view off the coast of the olympic host city, rio de janeiro, pretty spectacular. but the sailors are trying hard to stay out of the water. >> we don't want to swim in it. >> they say the bay here is terribly polluted. you hit garbage out here? >> yeah. >> reporter: what kind of garbage? >> a lot of plastic bags but training partners of us also hit a chair or some wood. >> reporter: furniture? >> yes. >> reporter: this is the kind of stuff they're talking about. look at this trail of garbage. flip-flops, tennis shoes, blocks
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of wood on the surface of the bay, very close to where the sailors and athletes are training. rio has been struggling with its notoriously polluted waters for decades. we caught up with the city's mayor at the opening of a brand new sewage treatment plant. it's aimed at providing modern services to hundreds of thousands of residents of rio for the very first time. do you think the water is going to be safe for the olympic athletes. >> yes. i mean, we had -- first thing because we're in the bay, where the sailing is going to happen, it's the cleanest area of the bay, the interest of the bay. >> reporter: but people who make a living in rio's waters disagree with the mayor. we don't get far in fisherman felipe fernandes's boat before his motor stalls. the propeller tangled in a plastic bag. travel further and we find this.
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it smells awful here and not just like mud at low tide but something far more toxic and the fisherman we're with says this is basically raw sewage that has washed down out of the city. the untreated waste of millions of rio's residents who don't have modern sanitation. it drains into canals like this where local fishermen moor their boats. how's the fishing? "we don't fish here" he says. impossible? >> reporter: impossible. >> reporter: look at rio now, he tells me, we will host the olympics but we don't even have a basic sewage system. the pollution here one of the sad realities facing residents and now athletes at these upcoming olympics. but these german sailors say they're willing to risk these dirty waters for their shot at olympic glory. ivan watson, cnn, rio de
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janeiro. >> goodness. we'll be right back.
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good evening, thanks for joining us. a busy two hours ahead,
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including dr. drew pinski on the reports that prince tied from opioid overdose. and the ucla shooter and the kill list he had. and the top republican lawmaker endorses donald trump. we begin with hillary clinton's point by point deconstruction of donald trump's views and positions as well as flat out denunciation of his fitness for office. you'll hear both sides. trying to drought starkest contrast between herself and donald trump. here are some of the major moments. >> i believe the person, the republicans have nominated for president cannot do the job. donald trump's ideas aren't just different, they are dangerously incoherent. they're not even really ideas, just a series of bizarre rants,