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thanks for joining us. it is a busy night, this is no exception. donald trump is about to speak in san jose. he gave an interview to "the wall street journal" and lashed out at the judge in the lawsuit against trump university, going after the judge's ethnic heritage. here's a relevant portion of the article. mr. trump said u.s. district judge had an absolute conflict in presiding over the litigation, given that he was, quote, of mexican heritage and member of latino lawyers association. mr. trump said the background of the judge born in indiana to mexican immigrants was relevant because of his campaign stance against immigration and the pledge to build the border. i am building a wall, it is inherent conflict of interest. joining us, senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. you've seen the article. what do you think of what he said? >> first of all, it is clear that donald trump has first amendment rights, he's allowed to criticize judges like anyone
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else, however the notion that a judge being of mexican heritage is a conflict of interest in any case involving a politician who may have interest in mexico is completely outside judicial, the current idea of judicial ethics. african-american judges sit on discrimination cases, catholic judges sit on cases of separation of church and state. there are two organizations, one is in fact an advocacy group for immigration rights but that's not the one that this judge is a member of.
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he is a member of an organization that's hispanic judges and lawyers that advocate for sort of -- more a social organization, like there are jewish lawyer organizations, catholic lawyer organizations. it is certainly not a conflict of interest. donald trump can say what he wants, but what he is saying about the judge is completely wrong under all of the current rules of ethics. >> the idea that any judge because of his parents were from mexico or were immigrants or was of any ethnicity recusing himself because of that is unheard of. >> it has never been the law, it has never been object lig tree or suggested for judges that share ethnic heritage with one party in the case having to recuse themselves, that's contrary to the idea of what we expect of judges which is to be neutral arbitors, able to put aside their background. if that were the case, we would
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the trump campaign has lost opportunity tonight that would otherwise be bashing clinton on foreign policy. this is part of the problem when he speaks a little off the cuff, you get interference on nights that would otherwise be a victory for him. >> donald trump mentioned he thinks the judge is biased because he didn't dismiss in summary judgment. he has a fair point there. one lawsuit in california is based on a rico statute, historic expansion of the statute in my opinion having just graduated from harvard lawyer, his lawyers' opinions as well saying it should have been dismissed. they're saying it was a criminal enterprise, engaging in racketeering.
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>> let me ask you about that. should the judge have -- these are two separate issues. every litigant who moves for summary judgment thinks that he or she is right. the judge disagrees. we will have an argument about whether that's a correct decision. as far as i can tell, there's disputed evidence, that's why we don't have summary judgment, we move cases to allow juries to decide whose evidence is more credible, but that's a completely separate issue from whether the judge has a form of bias that requires reducing himself. whether it should be dismissed for summary judgment, that's what lawyers argue about. whether he is required to recuse himself, that's not even a close question and the judge is right and trump is wrong. >> again, david, bias according to trump based on the fact that he is of mexican descent. >> that's the heart of the problem, becoming increasingly
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clear that donald trump's problem is not what he says but what he thinks. and periodically what he thinks comes to the surface. it is alarming it is disturbing. the rest of the world is looking at this, making judgment of what kind of country we are, what kind of leadership we will exhibit. i have to say hillary clinton gave a speech why he is unfit, he walked right into her trap. he raised the question all over again. i don't understand why he went
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there. >> the other question, what message does it send to everybody of mexican heritage who is in the united states thinking of whether or not to vote for donald trump if the candidate believes if you have mexican heritage, you have bias against somebody that has beliefs donald trump has. >> it implies no mexican can agree with his position on the wall. you can be mexican and agree with that. >> he made that point, said many agree with him. >> the logic isn't there. to me sends an awful message to mexican and latino americans of any race or color, he is dividing again. more deeply, speaks to temperament and impulse control. to your point, this is a potential victory day. hillary clinton did a great job breaking him down on foreign policy, not an entire victory but had a chance to rebut and rejoin. she opened herself by having the conversation. his comments show lack of discipline and there's something inside he can't control. >> there's hypocrisy. i sit on the panel, heard over
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his comments show lack of discipline and there's something inside he can't control. >> there's hypocrisy. i sit on the panel, heard over and over because he wants to build a wall, he is therefore isolating the whole of the hispanic community. the premise underlying that is that all of the hispanic community is against building the wall. that's a very racist way of thinking. >> isn't that what he said? >> that's my point. people on the panel said because of someone's heritage they're never voting for donald trump because of the wall. he is using the same logic. i am not referring to mark in particular, i am referring to many other people have said time and time again. it is the same idea that people because of race will vote a certain way because of a particular issue. >> but again -- >> he is the one that is categorizing this way. he set the conversation with this premise. that's destructive. >> that's a racist idea, so you say what donald trump said is racist? >> i said it had racial undertones. because donald trump is
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embracing the same liberal thought pattern we said on here, i think it is not an appropriate comment to make. >> what he said has racial undertones? >> i am not saying that. >> you said when -- you claim when liberals say it about the wall, it has racial tones. >> he is taking that same pattern of thinking. my point is everyone is fine when a liberal says it. when donald trump says it, it is a problem. >> i don't know, it is hard to argue because you're arguing about a hypothetical liberal that's not here. >> i am making the point we need to have consistency. every time someone says on the panel going forward because donald trump wants to build a wall he is isolating the whole of the hispanic community, that has to be called out the same way. >> the argument is not because he wants to build a wall. we could argue about that.
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the argument is why he wants to build the wall. doesn't mean everyone won't vote, it is how he casts an entire race of people. that's not the same argument. >> it is. it has been made over and over. >> what's the argument? >> time and time again, everyone heard it. to me it is completely wishful thinking to say that hasn't been made. donald trump wants to build a wall, therefore he is isolating the whole of the hispanic community. that's false. >> wait a second, that's not what started this. >> in politics we typify certain
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groups, say this is the way they think. that's a racial way of thinking. >> this started when he declared candidacy for the presidency talked about mexicans being rapists. he is the one went after mexicans to start with. then talked about a wall. talked things. what are they thinking. we know that 80% of the hispanic community disapproves of him. that's a very important political fact. >> specificity matters. all mexicans are criminal and rapists, but that's not true. he said mexico sends people. >> there's no evidence mexico sent them. >> there's not. >> then don't say there's one. donald trump says that he talked to border agents that told him that. >> for the record, talked to people in charge of border patrol, current and former attorney generals, there's no evidence -- >> i am not talking advocacy of that claim, it is unfair to say they're all criminals and rapists. >> he didn't say that. he phrased the question -- he justifies the wall based on the
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fact that he claims they're sending a lot of criminals and rapists here. >> there are criminals and rapists that have gotten across the border and killed people like kate steinle in california. >> there's a consistent pattern, like david said from the beginning of candidacy, hinged on xenophobic -- we watched the ban on muslims. >> temporary ban on non-u.s.
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muslims until we isolate the problem. >> that's not what he said. >> we showed the clip. >> and he said until we isolate the problem. you left that out. >> but the problem is terrorism. no muslims can come into the country until we isolate the problem of terrorism. >> everybody take a breath, we will take a break, be back with more. we have been having a i'm fa-reezing! well, i told you to bring a warmer jacket. when? every day since you could walk! now i just say it with my eyes like... folks, park ranger mark. -sup, bro? -hey, forest cop.
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♪ is on the world's number-one job site. indeed. how the world works. >> everybody take a breath, we will take a break, be back with more. we have been having a passionate conversation about the latest comments donald trump made, telling "the wall street journal" that the judge in the lawsuit involving trump university has a conflict of interest because of his mexican heritage and his membership in a latino lawyers association. back with the panel, continuing the discussion. not sure where to pick it up.
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it is clear and we were making this error until tara was pointing it, the one organization is different than the lawyer organization that this judge, clearly again we have to wait to hear from donald trump. on top of that, he placed the idea that the judge whose picture we are showing that inherent conflict of interest because of mexican heritage, grew up in indiana. >> the fact we're even having the conversation about a presidential candidate of a major party is what is so dismaying for so many americans. that's why i am a never trumper, that's why many conservatives are concerned about this. we're looking at this. how irresponsible and reckless
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is this individual. and hillary clinton and god help me, never thought i would agree with so much of what hillary clinton said in one speech, but that's the narrative that hillary clinton and the democrats will exploit from now until november and independent voters who are not primary voters, who are more partisan, independent voters are going to stand back, look at the choice. this is so -- the fact that -- your logic was nonsense five minutes ago. we are not going about that. >> let her respond. >> you say no conservatives are for donald trump. 80% of republican voters in the poll support trump. >> let her finish. >> tara, let her finish. >> i don't think that's true. go back, look it up. >> in the quinnipiac poll, not only does he win independents but wins more democrats than hillary clinton wins republicans. >> snapshot in time for now. today was the beginning of a new
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campaign from hillary clinton and what the democrats are going to do. when you see the poll in a couple months. >> should point out in terms of accuracy, in terms of that poll, donald trump is the presumptive nominee for the republican party, that poll reflects that. on the democratic side, has bernie sanders. >> the idea that independents will wake up. they have been watching for months. >> fair point. couple things going on. want to go to jeff toobin in a moment. donald trump is going to make remarks in san jose. not sure if he will address this. a large crowd is waiting there, listening to "you can't always get what you want." i believe that's the song. jeff toobin, for those just joining us, let's take a breath. in this "the wall street journal" article donald trump says, let me get that. i want to read this paragraph
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from "the wall street journal." it said mr. trump said the district judge had, quote, an absolute conflict in presiding over the litigation given he was of mexican heritage and member of latino lawyers association. mr. trump says the background of the judge being a mexican immigrant is relevant because he pledged to seal the border. it is conflict of interest. a judge normally doesn't come out, defend himself. a judge usually remains silent in a case like this, right? >> that's right. they rule on the recusal, but usually don't write an opinion explaining that decision. this is such an easy case. this is not a close case. >> explain why it is an easy case. >> there are two points trump raises. trump appears to have confused one laraza, an active organization critical of donald trump and pro-immigration rights.
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>> explain why it is an easy case. >> there are two points trump raises. trump appears to have confused one laraza, an active organization critical of donald trump and pro-immigration rights. the judge is not a member of that organization. he is a member of a different organization, also called laraza, a fraternal organization of lawyers of hispanic heritage, which is a perfectly ordinary and familiar group, many catholic lawyers are involved with catholic organizations, jewish lawyers with jewish organizations, italian american lawyers organizations, they are ethnic pride, not advocacy groups. do not under any theory represent a conflict of interest, and especially trump's second point is particularly outrageous, simply the fact that he is of mexican heritage means he should recuse himself.
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it is established law for decades that african-american judges can hear discrimination cases involving african americans, catholic and jewish justices can hear claims about separation of church and state. the ethnicity of the judge is not in and of itself a ground for recusal ever. and that is a claim that trump under the first amendment is certainly allowed to make but it is completely wrong under the law. >> we have to take a quick break. we await donald trump speaking tonight. there's a lot more to talk about. will he address the issue. we will look at that. and more revelations in the class action lawsuit at the heart of this about trump's role in the university bearing his name.
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breaking news tonight in an interview with "the wall street journal," donald trump ramping up attacks against the judge presiding over two civil lawsuits against trump university or so-called university. a third lawsuit is being led by new york attorney general. earlier today trump tweeted after the litigation is disposed of, i instructed my execs to open trump u. so much interest in it. i will be pres. that was it.
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all three lawsuits contend that trump university took in estimated $40 million, was mired in fraud and deception. one of the key issues concerns trump's involvement in the now defunct program, how it stacks up against the sales pitch, what he claimed. newly released documents shed more light on that. here's senior investigative correspondent drew griffin. >> you think you can teach people to be wealthy, michael, how to be wealthy? >> absolutely. >> reporter: that's the president of trump university appearing with trump larry king live when the joint business was getting under way. newly release depositions show sexton controlled almost all aspects of the school, except one crucial area. how it was marketed, promoted and advertised. the very heart of the lawsuits against trump's now shuttered
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real estate seminar business, the business he promoted. >> these are people handpicked by me. >> reporter: one of the allegations of the lawsuit. that statement was a lie to trump students. we know who approved that line. michael sexton stated just that in a sworn deposition made public. any time we had a new ad, sexton said about trump, we would discuss it. why did he want to be involved in reviewing and approving the advertisements, sexton was asked. he, trump, wanted to see how his brand and image were portrayed in trump university marketing materials. >> trump was a pitch man. >> reporter: eric snyderman, attorney general of new york suing trump and his university says everything about the marketing donald trump approved was a scam. >> he made videos to lure people in who thought this guy is a successful real estate entrepreneur, i could benefit from the knowledge. but it was the pitch very much focused around my handpicked experts will teach you my
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personal secrets, copy that and you'll get rich. >> reporter: that pitch is what lured george to trump university. he thought trump university would involve, well, donald trump. >> instead of donald there was a video screen, a projector screen. they projected a movie that had donald on it. and he introduced the people we were going to be hearing talk that afternoon. >> by name? >> no, he said these are people i picked myself. >> reporter: there's good reason donald trump never named those people. all right here in this deposition from december when donald trump admitted he could not remember a single name, not one of the instructors at trump university. the actual instruction, the courses left to michael sexton who told larry king trump
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university was his idea. >> i met mr. trump, pitched the idea. it was something that i think captured his imagination. >> he came to you? >> he did. he has done an amazing job. i have known michael for years. smart guy. he loves the internet deal and loves education. >> reporter: now that both men are being sued, the story is different. under oath, trump revealed he didn't know the instructors but knew very little about the university president. called sexton more of an educational person. asked if he knew if sexton ran a school before, trump answered that i don't. it is too long ago. i don't remember. records show michael sexton, the president of trump university spent almost his entire career in business and consulting. >> we will see if donald trump responds to the latest interview he gave to "the wall street journal" where he said the mexican heritage of the judge in this case is an inherent
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conflict for him to oversee the case. jeff toobin, in terms of what this case really hinges on, if it is proven donald trump did in fact lie, that he says he handpicked those professors, associate professors, not sure it is fair to call them professors, but he said he handpicked them and depositions say he didn't do that, is that a crucial piece of the case? >> it is an important part of the case but not the whole case. fraud requires intent to deceive, so in order to prove that trump committed fraud, the plaintiffs in this case would not only have to prove that what he said to -- in the marketing material was false, they'd have to prove he had evil intent, that he intended to deceive prospective students in order to get their money. so trump's state of mind will be
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very important to determine the case. i think based on the evidence that's come out, it is not clear what trump's state of mind is. that's why the judge ordered a trial. that's the kind of fact that a jury will ultimately be required to determine. >> so just because he may -- at least on the face of it appears to have lied, saying he handpicked them when in fact he didn't, that doesn't go to whether or not he was intentionally trying to commit fraud? i mean wouldn't that inherently mean that he was trying to fool people to take the courses, believing that these teachers were more than they were or that he was involved in it more than he really was? >> if that's the case that he made that false statement, that would certainly be a bad piece of evidence in regard to his intent to deceive and this deception of students but i am reluctant to say one piece of evidence would turn the whole case.
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you know, this will be, if it goes to trial, a complicated case with lots of evidence. if that's true, bad fact for trump. i am not prepared to convict donald trump of fraud based on one fact. >> jeff, why does donald trump continue to say he doesn't settle cases? it is a point he made repeatedly on the campaign trail saying if he start to settle, other people come after you. just a cursory look at a number of lawsuits against him, he has settled, routinely settles cases. >> he settles cases, all business people make a rational decision whether the cost of a lawsuit is worth -- maybe worth it just to settle rather than pay the cost of lawyers and the risk of a loss. i think it is macho posture. he thinks that's indicative of his toughness, happens not to be true. >> how much problem do you think this is for trump between now
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and election day? >> i don't think we know at this point. he got a break. the trial was put off until after the election. he is not going to be on the stand testifying under oath. i think we have enough now that a lot of this will be -- we're going to have different arguments about whether he mislead people or did not. supporters were on cnn making an entirely different case to defend him. you have to weigh those things against each other. what i do think, anderson, he is going to be subjected to an intensive amount of scrutiny from mainstream press between now and november and the question will become do his general practices, general business practices, are they injurous as the e-mail is to hillary clinton. >> he has laureate university, it will mute the trump university case. this university he was translore of, one of the colleges in chile
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general practices, general business practices, are they injurous as the e-mail is to hillary clinton. >> he has laureate university, it will mute the trump university case. this university he was translore of, one of the colleges in chile lost accreditation. largest for profit college company in the world. 84% abroad. why it hasn't gotten -- >> there's a fundamental difference between losing accreditation and class action suit for fraud. >> they say they used high pressure tactics. >> we have to take a break, i'm sorry. we have to get this in.
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before making headlines, donald trump collected endorsement of someone who holding endorsing. paul ryan said it is no secret he and i have our differences, when i feel the need to, i'll continue to speak my mind. reality is on the issues that makeup our agenda we have more common ground than disagreement. joining me, sharp critic of donald trump, charlie sykes.
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good to have you on the program. first i want your reaction to trump's comments in "the wall street journal," reiterating criticism of the judge. saying he had inherent conflict of interest because he has, quote, mexican heritage. >> this is what shocks me about donald trump and paul ryan's endorsement. comes after months of behaving badly. you have him lashing out at mitt romney, personalized attack against the judge presiding over the fraud case. the other night when reporters
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are doing their jobs. that makes paul ryan's timing disappointing here, it seems less a negotiation and a negotiated surrender by the speaker. >> how big of a problem do you think this is for trump and the gop who need to do better with latino voters and also the fact that trump appears to have conflated two groups with laraza in their name. >> especially with groups saying we need to support donald trump because of the supreme court. this story raises question about his respect for independent judiciary, his respect for that branch of government and i think it is alarming. paup -- what does this say about a man that might be president of theist if he doesn't have the kind of respect for the judiciary. i understand rules are different
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for donald trump but here's somebody that's shown no willingness to step back and say look, what is appropriate and what is not appropriate to use for use of the bully pulpit as a presidential candidate. it is alarming. you mention the hispanic element. jeffrey toobin was saying there's no legal basis for calling out someone because of their ethnicity, and the fact that donald trump persists with this indicates this is a huge problem, not just for republicans but for republicans that now decided they're going to join at the hip with him. >> senate majority leader mitch mcconnell said he is concerned what he could do to republicans with hispanics, alienate them for decades. >> mitch mcconnell is just now figuring this out? i understand why paul ryan is doing what he is doing. he made it clearest not endorsing donald trump or embracing trumpism, he is betting donald trump will support his agenda. here's the thing in terms of the art of the deal, there's no assurance donald trump will modify or moderate his behavior. i think it is naive or unusual on the part of republican
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leaders thinking somehow you're going to see a new donald trump. that the donald trump you're seeing now will be different from the donald trump seen in november or in the oval office. i think that's naive. >> trump himself said that in a press conference, look, this is the way it is going to be, this is what it is. charlie sykes, thanks. up next, donald trump is
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>> crushing it or snorting it? >> no, it's given as a patch you put on your skin and it stay there is for three days or believe it or not a lollipop. so in order for them to get the high doses, they open the patches and suck down the contents, it goes through the cheek membrane that way or they shoot it. now the fact that they say there's two clues, again, this is an incomplete report. you have to read between the lines. one is that there were toxic levels.
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it's almost impossible to get toxic levels from the usual delivery systems. he had to have adulterated the system in some way, number one. then number two, you look at what happened to him that night. he fell down in an elevator, probably couldn't get up and probable stopped breathing. that's very high levels of a medication and you have to wonder, they say self-administered. what exactly he was doing. >> and i understand fentanyl -- it's lead to a surge in overdoses in the u.s. i've read it's like 50 times more powerful than heroin. is that possible? >> of course it is, but we use very, very small doses. when we're using it in a prescription basis, the delivery systems are slow low level release. it's when people get their hands on it and start adulterating how they administer it. the real problem is it gets sold as heroin so when these kids or not such young people are adjusting their dosing, they think they're using heroin and they can overdose. >> after prince died you said they suspected benzodiazepines could have been involved in causing prince to stop breathing. do you think that could be the cause of death? >> 70% of opioid death are in the setting of combination with benzodiazepines. that is the deadly combination. we don't have complete
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toxicology, all we have is there are very high levels of fentanyl. we don't know whether or not there were other things involved here. >> what else would you want to see from an autopsy report? >> i want to see for instance what are the conditions of his hips? did he really have a hip problem? we hear there was a scar in his hip which suggests to me he may have had a hip surgery and i'm going to bet that that's where this problem got started. number two, i want the complete toxicology report. that is going to make a big difference in how we figure out what went on here and finally, i hate to say it, i want to know whether there were track marks. if this was intravenous use of fentanyl, that throw this is problem into an entirely different light. >> you were part of the town hall where we were discussing america's addiction to painkillers. you believe doctors are overprescribing it. we don't know if prince had an actual prescription for fentanyl and other drugs but if he did would the doctor who prescribed these drugs be responsible or partly responsible? >> i would humbly think so. you pointed out at that town hall meeting that we have 5% of the world's population, we consume 80% of the opioids on earth. it's an unbelievable excess that we participate in. and fentanyl is a medication that was designed, again, for end-of-life and cancer. the fact that we have a young
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this is cnn breaking news. breaking news indeed. a big night on the campaign trail, dual events in california. you're looking at donald trump in san jose, bernie sanders in chico. we'll keep an eye on all of it for you. let's listen now to donald trump moments ago. >> i watched hillary today. it was pathetic. it was pathetic. it was so sad to watch. >> well, that comes after this scathing blast from hillary clinton in her major foreign policy speech today. >> donald trump's ideas aren't just different. they are dangerously incoherent. they're not even really ideas. just a series of bizarre rants. personal feuds and outright
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lies. [cheers and applause] he is not just unprepared, he is temperamentally unfit to hold an office that requires knowledge, stability and immense responsibility. [cheers and applause] >> so with that said, i want to begin with more from hillary clinton's fiery speech in san diego today. we'll get to that in a moment, but let's get to donald trump live now. >> we have a great country. we're going to make it a lot greater, by the way. we love our country. look, we love our country. and i don't believe our country can let her get away with this crime. i don't believe it. so we'll see. and, you know what? if they do let her get away with it, it will be a big topic of conversation on the campaign trail. i can tell you that, folks.
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and then, if i win? it's called a five-year statute of limitations if i win. now everything's going to be fair, but i'm sure the attorney general will take a very good look at it from a fair standpoint, okay? i'm sure. i think it's disgraceful. so we have a very important race. we're doing amazingly well. some of the pundits are saying the most phenomenal thing they've ever seen in government, newt gingrich said the other night, there's never been anything like this, and he's a historian, a great historian the there's never been anything like this in the history of our country. we go like this crowd. we have great crowds, right? we always have great crowds.
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i mean, look at this place. [cheers and applause] amazing. this is amazing. hey, cameras, why don't you take a look at this, please, if you would? they don't turn. they don't turn. the other bernie. he is a crazy guy, but he's doing okay. he is nuts. he's a total nut job, but, you know what? he's doing okay. and he does get the second-biggest audiences the nothing like this, nothing like us, not even close. the other night, they said ladies and gentlemen, here's donald trump. i had a tremendous, i don't know, close to 20,000 people. and this happens all the time. ladies and gentlemen, donald trump is speaking now, and he's just finishing up, and ba, ba,ba. and then when somebody leaves
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they have somebody there, they're cleaning up. and they'll say donald trump just spoke, and ba, ba, ba,. and let's all tall asleep. >> donald trump in true fashion going after the media as he often does. but also going after hillary clinton after her scathing speech on foreign policy, really calling him out. jim acosta in san jose this evening. never a dull moment when it comes to donald trump. he is not happy about the media or about that speech today. >> reporter: no, he's not. and he opened up a few new lines of attack on hillary clinton saying back in 2008 hillary clinton used to hate barack obama. that was how donald trump described it a few moments ago, but trump says now hillary says yes, sir to president obama. so making the case that she's going to be continuation, four more years of president obama and his administration. now we should point out, don, there's an interesting development with respect to covering donald trump today.
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apparently, the presumptive gop nominee gave an interview to the wall street journal. during that interview, he once again went after the judge handling the case against trump university, down in southern california, judge gonzalo. at one point during this interview, and we know don, a few days ago, that donald trump said the judge, by the way, has mexican heritage. i asked him at the press conference on tuesday earlier this week, why did he keep bringing up his heritage, and drum really didn't answer that question. well, he did answer that question today to the wall street journal, and we'll put this quote up on-screen. he says i am building a wall. it's an inherent conflict of interest he says about the judge's heritage. in the article it is an absolute conflict when it comes to gonzalo curiel's heritage. he is of mexican descent but born in indiana of mexican
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immigrants of as of right now, the judge has not commented on donald trump's comments. his office won't comment because of the duty of a judge not to get involved in political activities. donald trump did not address this controversy. and his comments about judge curiel. but as he walked out on stage, the very first thing that came out of his mouth was, we love the hispanics. we love the hispanics. so donald trump trying to make a comment about his relationship with the latino community but not talking about the judge again. but he did say quite a bit earlier to the wall street journal. >> of course he did. let's talk about the speech today. trump took a beating on foreign policy and his temperament, what's the response been? >> reporter: that's right. and donald trump shortly after making those comments about hispanics, he went right after hillary clinton's foreign policy speech calling it pathetic, saying it was a political speech. here's a bit of what donald trump said a few moments ago.
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>> i watched hillary today. it was pathetic. it was pathetic. it was so sad to watch. and, you know, she's up there and supposed to be a foreign policy speech. it was a political speech. had nothing to do with foreign policy. she made a political speech tonight, folks, and it was a pretty pathetic deal. >>. >> reporter: now, don another thing he said is that hillary clinton uses teleprompters to deliver her foreign policy speech, but we should relamind viewers, i was at donald trump's speech on foreign policy earlier this year, donald trump used teleprompters. he hits hillary clinton for using teleprompters but he also uses them himself when he gets to foreign policy. >> i want you to stand by.
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i'm going to bring in mark preston, the executive editor of cnn politics. weigh in on this and this judge for trump university. it's hard not to think that he's not trying to deflect from hillary clinton's speech today, which, by many accounts was a pretty good speech. >> right. and here's the thing. i don't understand what donald trump is doing. there's been a lot in the last 48 hours i don't understand what drum has been doing. specifically, why does he continue to attack this judge? i understand it plays well with the base, with many of the voters who helped hip win the gop nomination, but what it's not going to help him with is independent voters and those folks in the middle who want another alternative to hillary clinton perhaps but they look at donald trump with these really tough accusations and really smears in amany ways that have much to do about nothing.
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>> if you are just tuning in, he is speaking in california giving a fiery speech, some of it in reference to hillary clinton about her foreign policy chops or lack thereof. and waiting to see if he speaks about this judge that he spoke to the wall street journal about. the judge has been on this case since 2014. isn't it strange to bring up this conflict of interest now? >> yes, in everything that we've seen from donald trump in this campaign has been strange. it is not from the textbook of how you run a campaign, let alone a national presidential campaign. but, again, as you and i have talked over the past couple nights, don, what has gotten donald trump to this point in the campaign is where it ends, so to speak. in order for him to win in november, he needs to grow his support. he needs to reach out to those voters who are independents or in the middle who again are looking for another alternative. and when you have this kind of language, it's very likely going to turn off many of those voters. i think it's drain russ for
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donald trump to continue the personal attacks. just like we saw a few days ago with the media. i think it was ill-advised. a lot of people will say it was smart to do so. i thought it was ill-advised. it's not a really good long-term strategy. >> you said i don't know what he's doing or why he's doing it. do you think he knows? >> i think a lot of this is happening, it's like he's making the decisions as each one comes up. >> on the fly. >> on the fly. if you look at some of the interviews that he's done, he will make comments and then within a day or so he'll retract it or within a couple months he'll say i never said that anyway. because he realizes it probably wasn't the smartest thing to do or say. i do think donald trump doesn't march to the beat of his own drummer. it's like the beat of his own marching band is what he marches to. >> we played a little bit of the clinton speech. let's play more and then we'll discuss. >> now imagine donald trump
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sitting in the situation room. [ laughter ] making life or death decisions on behalf of the united states. >> no! >> imagine him deciding whether to send your spouses or children in to battle. >> no! >> imagine if he had not just his twitter account at his disposal when he's angry but america's entire arsenal. making donald trump our commander in chief would be a historic mistake. >> so there have been so many of his opponents who try to take donald trump down for his past statements and thin skin but they failed. is it going to stick this time? >> look, she's been widely praised for the speech. i don't think that a lot of people thought hillary clinton had it in her to deliver this type of speech against donald trump. however, i would caution that as much as i've cautioned donald trump saying that, the long term strategy for him is not to try to fight, you know, many political wars, for instance, he's fighting republicans in his own party. he's fighting the media now and
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he's fighting hillary clinton. >> too many wars? >> too many wars, too many fronts in his own war. hillary clinton, i don't know if you can go toe to toe with donald trump in a bare knuckle fight. i think she's smart to drop policy differences and experience differences with donald trump, but to try to go toe to toe with him in a bare knuckle fight i don't know. >> she's trying to get ahead and define him before he defines her. the way he did with low-energy jeb and little marco and all that. how did it all come together? >> not only was she going after donald trump, i think we need to take a step back. not only was she attacking donald trump and feeding those supporters of hers who wanted her to go toe to toe with donald trump, but what you didn't hear her talk about was bernie sanders.
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and that is important because we are coming into basically the final primary contest that will be happening on tuesday. hillary clinton is going to be the presumptive democratic nominee after tuesday night. so there's no reason for her to be attacking bernie sanders or to be alienating those voters. how does she do that? well, she dochts engage bernie sanders or attack him, what she does is focus all her attention on donald trump. >> thank you very much. i want everyone to stay with us. when we come back, more from california where donald trump is speaking, and protesters are gathering outside. we're live. every ingredient is the main ingredient. the new green goddess cobb with avocado, bacon, freshly made dressing, tomato... and chicken. at panera. food as it should be. muddling through your morning is nothing new.
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support feeding america and your local food bank at feedingamerica.org. . back now live to san jose where donald trump is talking about hillary clinton. let's listen in. >> totally dishonest newspaper. they are the worse, but the "new york times," pretty bad. how about the story they did a week ago about donald trump and women, and then all the women came back, and they said that's not true. we love donald trump. right? [cheers and applause] right? the story was the fraud.
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in fact, i saw the women. i said oh, that's great news for me. they're going to say good. and then i read this stuff and i said man, i can't believe she would say it or she would say it, so you had carrie prejean. she said i didn't say that. and rowann. i had great respect for donald trump. he treated me great. he was a great guy. you had all these woman. you had one woman said, i told her not to eat that piece of can candy. i had a lot of friends call me up and say we're really disappointed in you, man. and this was a woman, okay, like 25 years ago. i put her in charge of construction of a building. she was fine. okay. then she went to another company. she wanted -- >> all right, that's donald trump, he's talking about the media now, pivoting from hillary
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clinton. we'll keep an eye and an ear on that for you. let's discuss this. p.j. crowley is a former state department spokesman under president obama. it's good to you have here. p.j., you first. hillary clinton took on donald trump saying that trump would be a major security threat to the united states. watch this. >> this is not someone who should ever have the nuclear codes. because it's not hard to imagine donald trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin. [cheers and applause] and i have to say, i don't understand donald's bizarre fascination with dictators and strong men who have no love for america. he praised china for the tiananmen square massacre. he said it showed strength. he said you've got to give kim jong un credit for taking over
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north korea, something he did, and got rid of his own uncle, which donald recapped like an action movie. and he said if he were grading vladimir putin as a leader, he'd give him an a. i'll leave it to him. >> she took on trump over and over again saying he doesn't have the temperament to be president, it would be a historic mistake to elect him. what did you make of her speech today? >> it had foreign policy elements to it. but it was basically taking donald trump's own words and using them against him. the fact that somehow he thinks he knows more than the generals who are leading the fight against the islamic state. where did he learn about the islamic state? trump university? i don't know. he said nato was obsolete. i served in the military for 26
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years, and while donald was reoccupied, we had new missions for nato in places like afghanistan, but now with the challenge in ukraine, we see, you know, the fundamental responsibility of nato being to protect america's allies in europe, and that's going to be very, very important for the next president to send the right signals to poland, the baltic states, others who are very concerned about an insur gent russia. >> he talked about her shortly tonight, but we saw him shoot off a few tweets during the speech saying she doesn't look presidential, taking aim at her tell prompter reading. how does at the counter this speech? >> well, hillary clinton certainly looked very uncomfortable up there today. but i think more fund amountly, hillary clinton has made a huge strategic blunder, kind of like her libya invasion in trying to turn this race into a -- >> there was not a libya invasion.
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>> well, i don't know what you'd call it then. >> libya that she as a diplomat also helped to, there was not an invasion. >> robert gates and others were very skeptical of the invasion and hillary and others pushed for it and it turned into a disaster. >> it wasn't an invasion. to classify it as an invasion, it wasn't an invasion, let's be honest about that. >> a military invasion. >> it was a military action, not an invasion. >> when you use military power to overthrow a regime, that is an invasion. but the fact is that her policies are now at the center of this race. whether it's decisions in syria that created that refugee crisis, the decisions in libya to give isis control ever the country. whether iraq, that led to isis taking control of iraq, whether it's her support for the iranian deal, everything she has touched in the middle east has turned to
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death and detruck and blood. >> that being said, how does donald trump counter act that? how does he counter the speech? that was my question. >> in his remarks in recent day the he's talked at length about libya. not only did her decisions in libya produce a humanitarian disaster, but also she failed repeatedly to provide the security that was requested for our diplomatic personnel in libya. and that failure resulted ultimately in the assault in the compound in which we lost our ambassador. >> how does he counter that? you're talking about the failures which you believe of hillary clinton but how specifically does donald trump counter that? >> by drawing a contrast. in other words, hillary clinton's foreign policy which has emphasized nation building, whether it be in iraq, syria, libya, is a sharp difference
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from donald trump's policy, which he outlined in his speech, which is to focus on common challenges with our allies like defeating islamic terrorism and not on trying to spread democracy at the point of a gun. that is a major difference between our two campaigns. >> i think hillary clinton will welcome the opportunity to debate foreign policy with donald trump. i am intrigued by steven mentioning that allies are important. that's not what we've heard from donald trump up until now, you know, north korea, our south korea, you're on your own. japan, you're on your own. hillary clinton believes that the world should begin to, you know, move away from the nuclear weapons. donald trump doesn't care. if japan becomes a nuclear power, south korea becomes a nuclear power. saudi arabia becomes a nuclear power. the last thing we need in the world today is a nuclear arms race, so i think hillary will take her experience. she knows what has worked. she knows what has not worked.
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and she's going to pick up >> oh, she definitely knows what hasn't worked if anyone has proven what doesn't work, it's hillary clinton. the iran deal is going do create a nuclear armsrace in the middle east. >> it's the exact opposite of what steven is saying. >> i guarantee you. i guarantee you that if you go back and look at donald trump's foreign policy speech, p.j., you'll see he talked explicitly about changing our strategy in the middle east to working with arab allies to try to defeat islamic terrorism and working on that shared goal, even if it means working with regimes we don't agree with, rather than trying to topple regimes for the sake of spreading democracy, which has proven to be a disaster like it was in lib ra and iraq. >> quickly please. >> when you talk about the arab spring in 2011, these were revolutions started in the region. they were not started by the
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united states, and to what steven just described as the challenge for the united states going forward, it sounds a lot like the obama policy taken now that hillary clinton is going to streng strengthen, and i think a republican nominee is going to have basically the same policy without admitting it. >> thank you. ahead with her sharp word the against trump, are voters seeing a new hillary clinton as we head into the fall election? we danced in a german dance group. i wore lederhosen.man. when i first got on ancestry i was really surprised that i wasn't finding all of these germans in my tree. i decided to have my dna tested through ancestry dna. the big surprise was we're not german at all. 52% of my dna comes from scotland and ireland.
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new guys? well, they're not that new. they've been defending things for a long time. [ digital typewriting ] it's not just security. it's defense. bae systems. all right, live pictures now. you're looking at san jose, california. and there is a large crowd gathered to watch his speech in san jose. here to discuss is alan elmore. and bob beckel. welcome to the show. to donald trump telling the wall
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street journal that judge curiel has a conflict of interest, saying i'm building a wall. it's an inherent conflict of interest. you agree. why do you say that? >> i do agree donald trump has a right to say what he's saying. how do you select an inju jury? although he was born in the united states, his parents are immigrants. mother eve more over, he was appointed by president obama. we've never dealt with a nominee on the other side. >> he was born leehere. >> a mexican-american. >> that he can't be objective as a judge? that there's bias there?
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>> one that he's appointed by barack obama. the plaintiff's attorneys in this case are clinton supporters and donated about $700,000 to the clinton campaign. >> why didn't he object to him in 2014 instead of now? >> it was not relevant to now. >> litigation proceeds and time passes. i think it's become more of a prominent issue and litigation is heating up. so maybe it's more of a ripe dispute if you will. >> i want all of you to respond. but first, quickly, bob, what do you make of trump's comments about the judge? >> i think it's absolutely ridiculous. he's a presidential candidate and he's talking about his own personal lawsuit, about a judge that's been around for three years, that he could have talked about before, what he's basically saying is this guy can't give me a fair run, because i'm going to build a wall between his parents' country and my country.
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it's nuts. this guy, somewhere along the line, i think people are going to begin to realize that this is a man with a very thin skin who wants to get even with everybody who's ever, in his mind done him damage. >> adam? >> i think we need to call this what it is, and it's just bigotry, that simple. it's one thing to take on the independent judge in this case to do a broadside against the judiciary. it's another to attack the man for his ethnic origins. it's wholly unappropriate, it's the most flagrant demonstration of how unfit this man is for office. this week will go down and seminal in a couple ways. seminal this that his bigotry really revealed itself in all its full flavor and also for the effective speech that secretary clinton gave, using donald trump's own words against him
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and showing demonstrably, how he lacks the temperament to be the commander in chief. i think this is a seminal week in the campaign. >> kristin, a conflict of interest. solely based on the race of the judge? >> i think it's horrible that donald trump is implying that you can only be a certain race or ethnicity and be an impartial judge in this case. from that being said, now putting my analyst hat on, the reason he's doing this is donald trump knows his campaign has done well for the last six, 12 months because people don't trust big institutions like the media or the government. and by making it a situation where we shouldn't trust this judge, there's a conspiracy against me, there are a lot of voters out there at this point who are ready to believe, yeah, there's a conspiracy against donald trump, lots of people are trying to gang up against him. so he's trying to fuel that fire even though he's doing what i think is hateful rhetoric. >> congressman, i apologize.
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i got ahead of myself calling you adam. >> adam is perfectly fine. >> she talked about being in the situation room today this is one story she told. listen to this. [ applause ] >> so it really matters that donald trump says things that go against our deepest-held values. it matters when he says he'll order our military to murder the families of suspected terrorists. during the raid to kill bin l d lad laden, when every second counted, our s.e.a.l.s took the time to move the women and children in the compound to safety. donald trump may not get it. but that's what honor looks like. [ applause ] [cheers and applause] >> so congressman, she got a standing ovation for that. is this the hillary clinton that we're going to see from now on? and where's that hillary clinton been? >> well, and i'm glad you played that clip, because for me, that was the most powerful moment of
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the speech, because it was such a clear contrast in the values that donald trump has expressed and the values and the vision of secretary clinton. in highlighting the honor of those troops, not to murder the family of even osama bin laden, but rather to usher them to safety. it showed the highest ideals of traditions of the u.s. military, and, as she was saying that this is what honor looks like, i was thinking to myself, this is what presidential looks like. and it's just the most stark contra contrast. for those who know the secretary, has worked with the secretary, this is the hillary clinton. this is a great side of leadership and character, and i was proud of the speech today. >> there's plenty more discussion. i want to get to a break, but first we'll listen to donald trump in san jose. >> obamacare, we're going to replace it with something great.
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and we are back live. here we go, san jose, california, donald trump finishing his speech and making his way through the crowd and shaking hands and kissing babies, as they say. erin, i want you to listen more to hillary clinton and what she had to say about trump. >> and i have to say, i don't understand donald's bizarre fascination with dictators and strong men who have no love for america. he praised china for the tiananmen square massacre. he said it showed strength. he said you've got to give kim jong un credit for taking over north korea, something he did by murdering everyone he saw as a threat, including his own uncle, which donald described gleefully like he was recapping an action movie. and he said if he were grading vladimir putin as a leader, he'd
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give limb an a. now i will leave it to the psychiatrist to explain his affection for tyrants. [cheers and applause] >> so erin, you say that trump is going to make our international situation more respected and feared? how is that? >> well, first of all, let's just say right now, congratulations hillary, she got a little quippy and took a play from donald trump's playbook. that's great. when hillary was talking guess who was in that room, not a bunch of undecideds, but chin scratchers, supporters. what he's going to do is try to work with these people, get smart people to surround him and do the right thing. but i think a little fear isn't going to hurt anything at all. >> hillary clinton gave a speech where she goes after, which is right in his bailiwick, as he says, he's a counter puncher.
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>> today would have been great, except for one little comment about the trump university case. he got paul ryan on his side. >> except for the speech about the judge. >> he as making me work today, but it would be a great day to talk about the positives, and there are positives today. >> yes, there r aare. and you're talking about paul ryan. and he had the speech with the media the other day, he came on, and it could have been such a great day for him, instead, we're going back and having to clean up what he says. why does he do this? >> you know, i wish i knew, but he is a really smart guy and winning the votes of the american people, and i think that they like that he's off the cuff and says what's on his mind and speaks from the heart and the gut as opposed to a teleprompter quite frankly. so i think it's working. >> as we're speaking we're looking at protests outside of
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the san jose rally. there was a very large crowd inside, more people inside than outside. you see the burning of the american flag there. bob beckel, donald trump as a counter puncher could have had a very good day responding as erin said, responding to hillary clinton's speech. that's what he does best. and also that now the speaker of the house appears to be endorsing him. >> well, yeah. he did it in a small editorial in a newspaper in wisconsin. who do you think those people in that room are? you don't think they're trump supporters? trump's not a counter puncher. he's got a very thin skin. and if you've noticed the things that she used to describe him, a loose cannon, somebody who's thin-skinned. next week she will be the
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democratic nominee for president. you saw people fold when the people who went up against him in debates wouldn't fight. donald trump's going to have to man up. i don't think he's much of a man when it comes to that. >> this is paul ryan, a take out of what he said to a newspaper. i won't read the entire thing, but basically, he's had a couple of conversations with donald trump and because of that, he feels that after these conversations i feel confident that he would help turn the ideas of this agenda into laws to help improve people's lives, that's why i'm voting for him in the fall. but why bury this under a clinton speech? >> the reason is paul ryan is not proud of this endorsement at all, and wishes he could make the endorsement and no one would notice. this was a bad day for paul ryan and donald trump. but particularly for paul ryan, because here he is putting his
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own legitimacy on the line, the speaker of the house on the line. and what does donald trump do? he doubles down on these bigoted comments about this federal judge. you can imagine how ryan must fear now, being asked how can you support this guy after what he says about this judge? how can you support a man who's continually alienating a huge segment of the american population with these insults? so i have to think it's a very bad day for the speaker, and if he could have gotten no notice at all for the endorsement, that would have been strongly preferable for him. >> we'll get to bob and kristin on the other side of this break. so everyone stick around. again, you're looking at protest the outside of the trump rally in san jose, california. he held a very big rally there this evening. and now you see what's happening outside. protesters on the car. we're going to continue to look at these pictures, monitor these pictures and bring you there live. stay with us. we're back after this nt.
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on cnn and a busy night in san jose, california as protesters have gathered outside an event where donald trump finished speaking earlier. he is still believed to be in the crowd shaking hands. these protesters have taken over at least the perimeter of where donald trump is speaking. we saw earlier the burning of the american flag and protesters on top of cars, not sure what their objective is there, burning the flag and jumping on top of cars, but we are vorters on the scene. that's moments ago with the burning of the american flag. so we will see what's up in san jose. back with me to discuss, so to you, congressman, i want you to listen to what donald trump said about hillary clinton's e mails. >> anything obama wants she's going forward with, because you know why? she doesn't want to go to jail,
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that's why, folks. that's why. [cheers and applause] remember hillary clinton used to hate obama. used to hate him. bill clinton hated him. bill clinton hated him. he called bill clinton a racist. you remember that? bill clinton hated him. and hillary clinton hated obama. and now it's yes, sir. yes, sir, mr. president, yes, sir. what would you like? i don't believe our country can let her get away with it. >> that was much fiery. did she get under his skin? >> unquestionably. i want to say at the outset that that image of the burning of the flag i find repulsive and there's nothing to justify that. but yes, clearly secretary clinton got under his skin. he's not used to being
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confronted so directly. and what made it so painful for him is that he was mocked using his own words. it's hard to refute when there are little quotes around those words, when those are the actual positions he has espoused. i think he must realize how ridiculous a lot of his statements have been, how counter productive to our own national security. so it hurts when your own words are used against you. and we saw him lash out in a trumpien way. and it would begin off the top of his head where he would catalog all the insults he wants to convey that day against anyone who disagreed with him. and he demonstrates each and every day how unfit he is to be commander in chief. >> kristin, i want you to respond to that. he was almost breathless and speaking at a higher octave.
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did she get under his skin? >> it seems there's no doubt she got under his skin. but one of the best things he has going for him is hillary clinton going a very poor candidate. if you look at the polls, favorability numbers for both are pretty bad. and he knows it's unlikely he's going to win over a bunch of new voters and make them fall in love with him between now and november. i think he's hoping that a lot of voters will say, i may not like donald trump, but at least he represents change, and hillary clinton represents more of the same. i think he's banking on the fact that if it's all about him, it's not a good idea, but it it's focussing on her e-mails and her, that's better for him. >> same question to you, what do you think? did she get under his skin? >> of course, he's got a long way to go. he's got 50 million more votes to get. from 67% of a universe of people who don't like him. this is not a guy used to being
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on the defensive. it's only going to get worse for him, because he's said so many things you don't have to create anything. back in the days when i was doing campaigns, i had to many could up with quotes that weren't actually accurate. in trump's case there are volumes of them. does he know he made a mistake? they reflect who donald trump is. >> wishful thinking. truthfully, wishful, wishful thinking. i've said it time and time again, he is the tough one, don. nothing really sticks to him. and the voters who are coming out and voting for him in droves are anti-establishment. the pendulum is swinging. he is swinging with it. did hillary get under his skin? absolutely not. i think he's fired up and excited. i think he's out there giving a speech and being boisterous, but he's tough. >> i know that you're hosting an event for hillary clinton.
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she has to win california, right? she's got to win this or this is embarrassing for her. >> well, she certainly wants to win it. i think as a matter of the electoral math and delegates and the numbers of additional votes she's received, she will be the nominee, but she certainly wants to win it. we want her to win california, but it's going to be close and competitive. >> all right. >> you have a lot of new, young voters that are sanders supporters. you have a very broad and diverse coalition that are clinton supporters and it all comes out to who comes out on tuesday. >> we'll keep an eye on what's happening in san jose the we'll be right back, everyone.
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this is cnn breaking news. we are beginning this hour with breaking news tonight. there you can see donald trump just finishing up a rally in san jose, california, with thousands of his supporters there, but there are protests outside this rally in california tonight, as the candidate is signing autographs inside. this is cnn tonight, i am don lemon. on the day that trump finally wins an endorsement from the house speaker, a lukewarm endorsement, but still, donald trump doubles down on the lawsuits against trump university, insisting the judge
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has a conflict over his mexican heritage. and he tweets this, after the case is disposed of and the case won, i've instructed my execs to reopen trump u. so much interest in it. i will be prez. and we'll keep an eye on those protests in san jose. let's go to sarah murray. what are you seeing? what's going on? >> reporter: don, the most tense moments so far have been when trump supporters have been leaving the event, we've seen protesters pick them off, they egged them, spit on them and for the most part they've been broken up. police are moving forward, they're changing the perimeter a little bit as protesters have marched down the street. now for the most part, it has largely been non-violent. it has largely been chanting, but the most tense moments are when the protesters are closing
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in as a large group around one or two trump supporters as they're leaving the event, this as we always expect is the most tense time of the night, when trump supporters and protesters get as close as they're going to get to each other throughout the evening, and you can see by these police moving forward that their goal is to keep them as far apart as possible. >> we have seen terrible things, like the burning of the american flag, jumping on cars outside of the building there, to and they're saying some really awful things. from what you can say on television, what are they saying about donald trump? >> there are a lot of expletives. they're yelling against donald trump. inside, donald trump said he loves hispanics. but outside we're getting a much different sense from protesters. they have many signs they're holding up, saying he's a racist, but it was interesting talking to some of these protesters, because they're chanting chants of non-violence, and a number of them acknowledge
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that when you have their pieers out here, throwing eggs and shouting expletives it undermines their messages. so there are two different type. >> some are clashing with trump supporters. some saying f-socialism or f-trump. but you have not seen any physical violence, have you? >> reporter: we've only seen initial pushing and shoving. the most tense moment we saw was one woman egging on the protesters, antagonizing them. she was by herself. and a group of protesters, you see outside breaking out right now. and our cameraman is showing you. this is what you see, when the trump supporters leave the event, protesters are shouting in their faces and cornering them. so far this has not escalated into intense violence, but as it
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continues, there's a risk of that. >> and talk to us about the amount of, are there police on the streets? are they intervening? >> reporter: there are police. right now where we are standing police are not intervening. they have set up a perimeter directly outside of the event and outside the hotels where protesters were corn aring trump supporters. now you saw them march past me. it looks like they're moving up this street to try to secure up there and stop the protesters at this intersection. they have blocked off the street at this point, so we're no longer seeing protesters stopping traffic, but it's not clear how long they're going to let them go or continue this before they ask them to disburse, don. >> sarah, earlier, we saw protesters in big groups. now it appears that they're disbursing and moving around. how many people are we talking about? and are they start being to disburse? >> reporter: so earlier, they were all centered directly
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outside of the convention center. it looked like a harm group. now you're seeing them move around convention center, so rather than all being in the same block directly in front. we've seen them disburse around the entire block. so it's hard to get a sense of exactly how many there r i would say a couple hundred at the most but definitely much larger than it was a few hours ago. >> what does this have to do with his immigration stance? or what appears to be their main thing? or are they just anti-trump? >> reporter: a number of them are protesting immigration policies. a number of union members as well. you can see right now there's an altercation between trump supporters arguing with their signs, trump protesters. we've seen a lot of this tonight, trump protesters trying to rip the donald trump signs out of their hansd. but a lot of what we have seen has been immigration protesters. and signs protesting the wall. >> i want you to be safe.
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sarah murray doing a great job outside the rally where protesters have gathered. and some of them for donald trump and some of them against donald trump. we're going to continue to monitor that for you. but i want to go to the man who has been following this campaign, jim acosta, and bring him in, so jim, you were at the rally inside. there were probably, no doubt, way more people inside of this rally tonight in support of trump. let's get to the meat of the issue. the wall street journal, he doubled down on his criticism of the judge in the trump university case. he said u.s. district judge gonzalo curiel had an absolute conflict in presiding over the litigation given that he was of mexican heritage. he said it was relevance because of his campaign stance against illegal immigration and pledge to build a wall. i am building a wall, it is an inherent conflict of interest.
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that's what mr. trump said. go on, did he discuss what he said in this piece at this rally? >> reporter: he did not, don, although he has been tweeting about the case all day long, earlier today he tweeted that it was his plan to reopen trump university after this case is litigated out in court. he feels that this case is going to be decided in his favor, and after that happens, he said in that tweet earlier today, he's instructed his executives to reopen what is a now defunct trump university. so he did talk about it on twitter. he did not talk about it at this event, but i thought it was very interesting. moments after he came out and spoke to this crowd here in san jose, california, he saw a sign in the crowd that said latinos for trump, and he said, he commented on that sign and said we love the hispanics. so maybe not a direct comment on judge in the trump university case, gonzalo curiel, but he did say we love the hispanics, as he
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walked out in front of this crowd in san jose, and just as a quick aside, i'm inside where this rally took place earlier this evening. we should point out, no problems inside the event. it appears anything that's happening is really happening outside of this venue right now. >> is he going to ask this judge to recuse himself? >> reporter: say that again? >> is he asking judge curiel to recuse himself? >> reporter: he basically is. he's basically saying that the judge in this case has a conflict of interest, and, you know, don earlier this week i asked donald trump at that press conference at trump tower why do you keep bringing up the ethnicity of this judge, because it was last week around this time where donald trump said oh, by the way, the judge handling the case is mexican. not that there's anything wrong with that. and this isn't the first time he's talked about the ethnicity of this judge. it was earlier this year in arkansas, i believe, i was at that rally where he talked about
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the mexican heritage of judge curiel. we should point out, judge curiel is of mexican descent but born in indiana to mexican parents. he's not commenting on the case, because judges can't comment on political matters. and his staff isn't commenting as well. but he's gone well beyond what he said at that press conference, i'm a man of principle. that's why i keep bringing this up. but definitely, don, he's doubling down some and then some in this article. >> thanks as always, jim, appreciate that. donald trump doubling down on trump university. i want to bring in sherry winkleman. she attended trump u and joins me now. how are you? >> hi, good. thank you. you're a former trump university student. do you believe it was a fraud as the attorney general said? >> absolutely. no doubt in my mind. >> so just as the new york
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attorney general said, you believe it was a fraud. >> i do believe. >> there were several different packages. you want to talk more about that? about why? >> yes. first of all, i signed up for the three-day introductory seminar at 1495. we were told if we didn't want to stay, we could have our money refunded. i asked the director a lot of questions. they evaded them. i started getting upset feeling that this wasn't a learning seminar but an upselling seminar. i tried to get my money back, and two other instructors were brought over and basically cornered me saying that i didn't understand the material. i was confused. it's overwhelming. it's real estate. after all, i'm a knew be knew b.
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-- nuby. >> $1495. >> yes. >> that's not chump change. you tried to cancel your agreement and get your money back, and you fought it. how did that play out? >> well, what happened after that is i didn't receive my money back from the first-day seminar, and they had notten all of our financial information in the first day of the seminar. they, under the guise of working with us to achieve our real estate goals we were going to be part of the trump family. we going to be mentored for a year. that was the gold package, which was $35,000. i didn't sign up for it by the end of the three days the however, i was contacted continuously after the seminar. >> this is the one that's -- this is the gold package, which is 34,995. which is basically $35,000 as you said. what kind of people were signing up for that $35,000 package?
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>> there was a lot of seniors that are that had lost money in the stock market. so they were working with trying to rebuild the retirement. there was some husband/wife teams. i partnered up with a soldier that had just returned. there were a couple of veterans there from iraq. he had gotten blown up in a tanker. he was on an honorable discharge and trying to rebuild his life. he also sign up. >> how were they paying for this? >> he, he wrote a check. and later the veterans' lawyers were able to help him with his case. >> yeah. and so how were the other people paying? were they just paying for it flat out? these weren't wealthy people, were they? >> no. what they did was really pressure people. the mentors singled out the people that they saw from the financial statements had available credit lines. because we filled out our checking, our savings, our credit cards and credit limits
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and balances, so the second day of the seminar, the men tors that we supposed to be working with took us outside of the room and basically had really pressured people into calling their credit card companies to up their credit limits so that they could pay for these seminars. >> you appeared in an ad for an an anti-trump pac during the aprim hei airies. >> i didn't appear in an ad. >> you appeared in an ad for an anti-trump pac? >> no. i just posted on social media about my experience so that the american people would learn how i was hood winked and hopefully wake up and not have the same thing happen to them. >> so this was your social might yeah site. th -- media site. >> correct. >> why is that so important?
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so you could tell your experience? >> absolutely. i mean, this man is running for the highest office in the land. he's supposed to be a servant of the people. and if he's a billionaire real estate mogul, why on earth does he need to set up a university that actually just does nothing but upsell seminars. it didn't deliver any valid real estate learning. nobody came away with any more information about real estate than when they came in. they came away severely in debt but with no more education. so, if a man that has means like that is not willing to teach people that are honest and willing to pay for knowledge, i can't imagine what he's capable of doing to this entire country. that's my deep concern. >> how do you feel about him possibly becoming president? >> i'm absolutely, very disturbed. very worried for the american people and very worried for th n entire world. i feel like he's hood winking
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the american public in a very large way, just like all of us many there were thousands of us as part of this trump university scandal. it's not a small number. >> he has people in an ad who say that they got something good out of the courses out of trump university. what do you say about them? >> i think they were highly pressured into making those statements. nobody that i know of completed it, because my mentor never called me after i signed up. i never got any e-mail support. i never got any documents. i never got a game plan. and when my partner attended the first seminar, he came away from it mortified, because the same package that we had paid $35,000 for, they offered as a group membership for only $15,000. so we were infuriated. >> you did get your monday' bey. thank you, sheri, appreciate it. >> when we come back, more on trump university, why is he going after the judge now? hey there, hi.
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okay. >> he should not have mentioned the judge's heritage, but donald trump maintains the judge's bias because of his association with the lawyer's group that supports the idea of illegal imgrants being in our colleges, so they may be biased against me. it's fair to maintain that point and fair to judcriticize some o the judge's actions. but not his heritage. >> i will put up, their isis is quote from the wall street journal what trump had to say about judge curiel. he is of mexican heritage and is a member of -- i think he says larossa or a mexican lawyers
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association. what do you make of this? >> you know, don, this is not close. this is really outrageous. let's take this in two parts. first of all, the organization. there is a political advocacy organization called larossa which does take strong stands on immigration and things like that. that is not the group the judge is part of. he's part of a different group that's also called laross sa. there are women's judges associations, catholic judges associations. there are jewish judges associations. they are not controversial. it is never grounds for a recusal. the other part is even more outrageous. the idea that a judge, simply because of his heritage, has to recuse himself, has never been part of the american system. women judges decide sex
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discrimination cases all the time. african-american judges decide race cases. catholic judges, jewish judges. >> white judges decide on black issues, racial issues. go on. >> it is simply not part of the american legal system to make this sort of demand. and i don't see any explanation for this, other than, i'm sorry to say, bigotry. >> bob, before your reaction. i have to ask kayleigh this question. is donald trump saying black judges can't decide on cases that might affect black people or they can't be impartial? that's a huge statement to make, because that sounds like what he's saying. >> i don't think so. in that statement he mentions, he mentions the affiliation with the organization. which makes me think he's more
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concerned about the organization than the heritage in general. >> that's not the immigration organization. that's a lawyer's group. >> but his local chapter of the organization they're belonged to, one's laraza lawyers. they obviously endorsed the notion of illegal immigrants being in colleges. because he endorses this idea that somehow he will be biased against him. and he couples that with the fact that this judge unsealed documents relevant to the case. i'm not sure why he would do that, then he tries to reseal them because he didn't screen out some of the information he should have. also, i agree with donald trump, this should have been dismissed on summary judgment. it wasn't. he has reasons to believe that the judge is biased. whether he is, i have no i de. he has claims, and he's putting them out there. >> bob, what's your reaction? >> i don't know what more he can do to seal any mexican-americans
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or any latinos from coming to vote for him. this is about as far as you can get towards -- it is bigotry, it's flat-out bigotry. and here's the problem with donald trump. he has no discipline. if you run for president of the united states, it requires discipline. and a disciplined candidate would not have said this. the only reason he said it was this judge got him angry. so he got him angry, so what? i assume his wife gets him angry. that doesn't mean he should use the presidential podium that he's running for to lash out at a judge in a case that has nothing to do with the american people. >> jeffrey? >> well, you know, i'm sort of speechless about this, because, you know, there is not, you know, i don't know whether this trump university was fraud length. that's why they're going to have a trial. there are arguments on both sides, and trump is certainly entitled to any sort of opinion. judges are not immune from
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criticism in this country, but the idea that a judge has to recuse himself because he's of mexican heritage, because one of the parties in the case is a political candidate who has taken a political position about relations between the united states and mexico, that's just way outside anything that american jurisprudence have ever been subjected to before. and it's outrageous. >> is this seen as a deflection? because the judge has been on the case since 2014, and some believe the timing is suspect here. is it to draw attention maybe away from something else? or i don't know. >> i mean, you know, it's hard for me to believe that this was a carefully thought-out strategy on donald trump's part, because even his supporters are appalled by this comment. so i don't really, i can't articulate what the strategy might be or the timing might be. the only timing issue i can think of is that the judge madly
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mad. the judge ruled against him, but, you know what? anybody who's been in court knows that sometimes the judge is going to rule against you, and sometimes it makes you angry, but you can't start calling the judge, you know, biased, because of his background. that's just not something that people do. >> you know, the other thing is, don't stop trying to analyze a strategy here. the fact is, donald trump has no strategy. what, his strategy is developed when he stands in front of a crowd. do you think his handlers off to the side were happy to hear him say this? do you think they were happy to see him beat up on the press the other day? if it was my candidate, i would never have another press conference. he is a non-strategic candidate who has a very big mouth. >> i know from some of his surrogates who have come on this show, bob is right. there are many surrogates who are saying i don't understand why i's saying this or he should have phrased it differently. >> i don't know why he said it
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right back now to cnn sarah murray. are the protests spreading? >> reporter: right now you see police moving the protesters back. i'm joined by ian parsons, 15 years old. we caught sight of him because he was sprinting away from a group of protesters. why did we see you sprinting away from that group? >> i was walking back to my car, and this one african-american male came up to me, he was probably about 21, i'd say. he came up to me and knocked my has off. so i turned around to look what happened to my hat, i looked at the guy, and he started screaming at me. so i don't know what happened,
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like not much after that, i started walking away, because i didn't want to cause any problems. so then i went and started walking and then like a big group of people, like a pack of animals came chasing after me. >> reporter: is that when you started running? >> uh-huh. >> reporter: what was going through your head when you were running? >> i was scared but also kind of laughing because of how immature and how they weren't peaceful protesting. they were being violent. >> reporter: is this what you were expecting when you were leaving the event, did you have any idea this would be what would welcome you? >> no, i didn't think it would be this bad. >> reporter: does this give you second thoughts about going to a trump event? >> no, i'd still support trump. but the people who don't support him, most of them are fine, but, as you can see here, a lot of them that are here right now aren't very nice. >> reporter: and glad you're sau for talking to us. police are moving this line forward. protesters had taken over this intersection just a few minutes
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ago. that's where we saw ian parsons running away from them. police are trying to get control of the intersection, trying to move the troprotesters out of t way. it's much calmer now. >> sarah, where are they running off to, do you know? >> reporter: you can see them, they're running off to close down, looks like the other end of the block, although there aren't any other protesters that are taking up the street right now. they're headed down about one block, which is market street. i think they just want to secure this area and move protesters out of here. >> understood. actually nodualy noted. let's discuss now, bob beckel and jeffrey toobin and kayleigh mcen inny. i understand a peaceful protest is in order, burning the american flag, jumping on flags, what is going on here?
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>> what's going on is not good. this reminds me back in the anti-vietnam wars when some of us were peacefully protesting and others were jumping on cars and burning flags t. it reflects backbdly who are against trump. and any group of protesters are going to have a percentage of people who are angry and out of control. and they're newsworthy. that's the most important thing, i think, the cameras focus on them, and they know that. and if we up to hillary clinton, i'm sure she'd prefer not to have them there. >> let's put that up. and this says violence against supporters of any candidate has no place in this election. >> ahead, kayleigh? >> i'm glad he put that out there. i want to hear from trump. i have to disagree with bob that
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trump can be blamed for this. he has put up policy positions that have been oversimplified. but nothing trump has said is that. and nothing he said can be responsible for third-party actions of people jumping on cars, beating a trump supporter to a pulp, burning american flags. there is no excuse for that ever, and words should not provoke that. >> i just, i mean, let's just not get carried away. in the united states, this kind of protest has gone on for hundreds of years. it's not that big a deal. a bunch of people like the guy got his hat knocked off? i mean, you know, he shouldn't have his hat knocked off, but >> he picked it up and tried to get it back, and a guy was beaten to a pulp with blood rushing off his face. that's what happened to the last guy who tried to get his hat back. >> there have been tens of thousands of people at these
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rallies. one person getting hurt is unacceptable. but it's one person. i just don't think anybody should think that this is a bigger deal than it is. i mean. >> let's move on. let's talk about policy now. so donald trump also told the journal that he thought hillary clinton's speech, quote, it wasn't a foreign policy speech, it was a hate speech. what's your reaction? >> i don't know where he sees the hate in. i mean, i think what she said was, she outlined good policy points. she was secretary of state. it's not that donald trump's standing on firm ground debating a former secretary of state on substance. so what he does is categorize her speech as something that is hateful. when he said for example that bill clinton said that he called barack obama a racist. that's a lie. bill clinton never called barack obama anything like anywhere near that. hillary clinton didn't hate barack obama. these are the kinds of things that donald trump says, and he throws them out as if anybody's
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going to challenge it. well, now they're going to start challenging that, and that's his problem. he's gotten away with a fun ride here so far, but the trump ride is over. >> jeffrey? >> and can we just talk about some substance here? one of the differences between secretary clinton and donald trump is should there be nuclear proliferation? should japan, should south korea, our allies, have nuclear weapons? secretary clinton says no. donald trump says, has said, suggested yes. i mean, that is a serious policy difference between them. that's the kind of thing that would be nice to talk about a little. as opposed to just the name-calling that has gone on so much in this campaign. >> kayleigh, go ahead. >> i completely agree with jeffrey. this campaign has been short on issues, and i would love to get to the substance, and that's what this speech did for us.
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we can look at that and contract it with donald trump who is on the right side of libya and iraq in leaving a stay-behind force. hillary was on the opposite side. one of the reasons we had the rise of isis is because there was no stay-behind force. so there are a lot of real difference, i'm glad we can get into them. >> we'll be right back. headache? motrin helps you be an unstoppable "let's rock this" kind of mom. back pain? motrin helps you be a... "side planking, even though you'll feel it later" kind of woman. body pain? motrin helps you be an... "i can totally do this in one trip" kind of woman. when pain tries to stop you, motrin works fast to stop pain. make it happen with motrin® liquid gels. also try motrin pm to relieve pain and help you sleep. wannwith sodastreamter? you turn plain water into sparkling water in seconds.
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two originals are here. our greats. they're used to speaking their minds, and about donald trump and hillary clinton and just about anything. morgan spurlock, and w. kamau bell. what is this? >> this is my i just had a baby beard. i'm on hiatus. i get to take it easy. >> it's called lazy. >> it's also called lazy. >> you play a high-rolling professional gambler. >> i do. >> so if you were rolling the dice on this election and could bet the house, who would you bet on winning?
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>> i would still bet on hillary clinton right now. i think the race is to the middle. who is going to be able to attract the people from the middle, from the republican side and democratic side. and hillary clinton has a better chance of luring moderate republicans to her side than donald trump does of luring moderate democrats to his side. >> some are feeling this anger. >> middle lower class. >> that he's using that to fuel his campaign. >> there are a tremendous number of people who feel disenfranchised, that america's kind of runaway without them in the last few years as the divide between rich and poor's continued to get greater and greater and greater and they've seen their money go smaller and smaller places and they like somebody coming in from the outside and fighting against the man, even though -- >> donald trump is the man. donald trump is ultimately the man. >> how did the billionaire not get to be the man? that's the greatest trick the devil ever played.
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>> one of the things he says is this p.c. culture is hurting america. >> political correctness is why i have my voting rights. why "roots" is a remake and not a documentary about current america. thank you, political correctness. political correctness is why my mom can vote. >> so what do you make of this? do you see it that he's sort of, he hears what this working class people are saying? >> i feel like when you say working class, i know there are blacks for trump, i've been tweeted by the blacks for trump. i get that they exist, but the core of the working class is working -- >> whites. >> thank you, white guy. >> mostly like poor white people. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. do you think the poor white people in america, not to diminish anything, but do you think that poor white people in america realize that -- >> but it's not just poor white people, middle class white people. >> that the unemployment rate
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among african-americans, among latinos, they're higher than whites. do they, do you think they realize that there are other people who may have it just as bad or worse than you do? >> no, because the whole country was founded on the idea -- like there's people who believe the country was founded for white people. i spoke to some of those people in my first episode of "united shades of america". they don't say it that explicitly. they say working class or if they look at that i'm not doing well, somebody owes me a dollar. >> not to mention all the people who lived here long before all those white folks showed up, and we kind of got rid of them. >> why you guys dissing white people? you're white? >> i'm hiding. i'm much more red. i'm a bit of a redneck. >> aren't you a california resident? >> yes, i am. >> what's going to happen there? >> i think as far as on the democratic side?
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it's going to be a very tight race between bernie and hillary. bernie says he's not leaving california until the california primary, and i think there are a lot of people, bernie sanders are like, "and i am telling you". >> these are dream guys. >> "inside man" premieres tomorrow night. >> i'm in las vegas, the gambling capital of america. my goal for my week of professional gambling is to double my money, and i'm starting here at the casino with $1,000 in my pocket and the hope that lady luck is on my side. >> any more bets? >> if she is, then what better place to start with roulette, the game that's all about luck. >> change, 100. >> i'm cashing in my first 100 and placing my green chips around the table in the hope that the roulette ball will land on one of my numbers.
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>> 27. woo! >> so i go to vegas. >> see, it's that easy. >> i just watch, because i'm like, i can't believe these people are just giving away their money. so you research the secrets of high rollers. can you beat the house? >> there are certain ways you can bet that will increase your odds, but almost all of the games are still structured so the house always has a small v favor in every game. >> you're up now. you go to the northern-most point in alaska. >> i went to america's most northern point, beryl, alaska. >> you're going to eat whale blubber and stuff. >> this is the meat part. we cut them into slabs about this big. >> okay. let pme try a little salt. as an african-american, we put salt on everything.
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i'll give it a try with a little bit, oops, that's a lot of salt. that's how my grandmother would have done it. you know, i've never tasted anything like this before. you can really taste the meat. >> yeah. >> is this the whale that you caught? >> the whale we were blessed with. the way we look at it, we don't go out and catch the whale, we're blessed by god. a whale will offer itself to a captain or crew, that knows we will take care of it by sharing it with everybody in the community. >> was it like salt pork? or did it taste like chicken? >> no, it tasted like ice chips and blood, and i'm still chewing on it a little bit. i was very honored that he let me taste it, but i was like, yeah, that's for you. but i was honored. it was a big honor that he gave me some. >> so lucky. >> that's the season premiere of "inside man". w. kamau bell explores a remote
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summer olympics begin in two months, and the eyes of the world will be on brazil. but anybody getting close to the waters may want to look away and hold their noses. >> reporter: athletes training for peak performance. members of the german olympic sailing team preparing for the first female olympic sailing of this class of sailboat. the view is pretty spectacular, but the sailors are trying hard to stay out of the water. >> we don't want to swim in it.
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>> reporter: they say the bay here is terribly polluted. you hit garbage out here? >> yeah. >> reporter: what kind of garbage? >> a lot of plastic bags. but training partners of us also hit a chair or some wood. >> reporter: furniture. >> yes. >> reporter: this is the kind of stuff they're talking about. look at this trail of garbage. flip-flops, tennis shoe, blocks of wood on the surface of the bay very close to where the athletes are training. >> reporter: rio has been struggling with its notoriously polluted waters for decades. we caught up with the city's mayor at the opening of a brand flu sewage treatment plant. it's aimed at 3r0e6ding modern services to hundreds of thousands of residents of rio for the first time. do you think the water's going to be safe for the olympic athletes?
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>> yes. where in the bay the sailing is going to happen, it's the cleaning part of the bay. >> reporter: but people who make a living in rio's waters disagree with the mayor. we don't get far in this fisherman's boat before his engine stalls, the propeller tangled in a plastic bag. travel a little further, and we find this. it smells awful here. and not just like mud at low tide. but something far more toxic. and the fisherman we're with says that this is basically raw sewage that has washed down out of the city. the untreated waste of millions of rio's residents who do not have modern sanltation. it all drains into canals like this where local fisherman moor the their boats. how's the fishing?
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we don't fish here, he says. look at rio now, he tells me. we will host the olympics, but we don't even have a basic sewage system. the pollution here, one of the sad realities facing residents and now athletes at these upcoming olympics. but these german sailors say they're willing to risk these dirty waters for their shot at olympic glory. ivan watson, cnn, rio de janeiro. >> goodness. we'll be right back. hey there, hi. why do people have eyebrows? why do people put milk on cereal? oh, are you reading why people put milk on cereal? why does your tummy go "grumbily, grumbily, grumbily"? why is it all (mimics a stomach grumble) no more questions for you! ooph, that milk in your cereal was messing with you, wasn't it? yeah, happens to more people than you think... try lactaid, it's real milk, without that annoying lactose. good, right? mmm, yeah. i got your back. lactaid. it's the milk that doesn't mess with you.
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that's it for us. thanks for watching. "early start" with christine romans and miguel marquez begins now. >> breaking overnight. donald trump lashing back after hillary clinton delivers a scathing speech on trump's foreign policy plan. the gloves coming off in the race for president. breaking news this morning. five soldiers dead. four others missing as floods ravaged parts of texas. and there's more rain on the way. new information in the death of prince. what killed the pop icon and where the investigation goes from here. good morning. welcome to "early start." i'm miguel marquez in for john berman. >> nice to see you. >> happy to see you. happy friday.
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