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good evening, i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, the breaking news. donald trump in a ferocious attack against the judge presiding over the trump university lawsuit. trump tonight tripling down that judge curiel has a conflict of interest in the case, because, to quote donald trump, he's a mexican. now to be clear, curiel is not a mexican. he's american. he was born in the united states of america. to mexican immigrants. trump's words raising a firestorm of criticism. house speaker, paul ryan, for one, who endorsed trump only 24 hours ago, now says he completely disagrees with him on this. and here's donald trump in a heated exchange that we want you to see in full with our jake tapper, just moments ago. >> i have had horrible rulings, i've been treated very unfairly by this judge. now, this judge is a mexican heritage. i'm building a wall, okay? i'm building a wall. i am going to do very well with the hispanics. the mexicans. >> so no mexican judge could ever be involved in a case that involves you?
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>> he's a member of a society where, you know, very pro-mexico and that's fine. it's all fine. >> but you're calling into question his heritage because he's latino. >> does he know the lawyer on the other side? i mean, does he know the lawyer? you know. a lot of people say -- >> i'm not talking about that. >> that's another problem. >> but you're invoking his race when talking about whether or not he can do his job. >> jake, i'm building a wall, okay? i'm building a wall. i'm trying to keep business out of mexico. mexico is fine. there's nothing -- >> but he's an american. >> he's a mexican heritage. and he's very proud of it, as i am where i come from. >> but he's an american. you keep talking about -- >> jake -- >> it's a conflict of interest because of mexico. >> are you ready? i have a case that should have been dismissed already. i have thousands of people saying trump university is fantastic. okay? i have of a case that should have been dismissed. i have a judge that never, ever gives -- now we lose the plaintiff. he let's the plaintiff of the case out. so why isn't he cancelling the case? >> so you disagree with his rulings. i totally understand that. >> i've had lawyers come up to me, say, you are being treated
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so unfairly. it's unbelievable. you know the plaintiffs in the case have all said wonderful things about the school and they're suing? you know why they're suing because they want to get their money back. >> i don't really want to litigate the case. >> you have to. >> of trump university. >> if he was giving me fair rulings, i wouldn't say that. >> my question is -- >> jake, if you were giving me fair rulings, i wouldn't be talking to you this way. he's giving me horrible rulings. >> i don't care if you writ criticize him. that's fine. you can criticize every decision. what i'm saying is, if you invoke his race as a reason -- >> i think that's why he's doing it. i think that's why he's doing it. >> when hillary clinton says -- >> hillary clinton is a stiff. if hillary clinton -- >> but paul ryan today said he didn't care for the way that you were attacking this judge. >> look, i'm jut telling you. paul ryan doesn't know the case. i should have won this case on summary judgment. this is -- this is a case i should have won on summary judgment. do you know the law firm paid hillary clinton hundreds of thousands of dollars to make speeches? do you know the law firm -- >> i do. and we reported it on my show.
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in fact. >> i'm glad. you're the only one. the law firm paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to hillary clinton. for speeches. >> before either of you were president. >> she fell asleep during a speech. >> before either of you were running for president. >> do you know they have contributed tremendous amounts of money to her campaign? >> yes. >> do you know they have con attributed a tremendous amount of money to erich schneider mapp? >> here's my question. >> did you know that. >> >> i did not know that. do you know they went to every attorney general practically in the country they could, and do you know this case was turned down by almost every attorney general from texas to florida, to many states? >> is it not what hillary clinton says, this is a racist attack. and you reject that. if you are saying he can't do his job because of his race, is that not the definition of racism? >> no, i don't think so at all. >> no? >> no. he's proud of his heritage. i respect him for that. >> you're saying he can't do his job because of it. >> he's proud of his heritage, okay? i'm building a wall. you know why i'm going to do
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well with hispanics? i'm going to bring back jobs and they're going to get jobs right now. they're going to get jobs. i think i'm going to do very well with hispanics. but we're building a wall. he's a mexican. we're building a wall between here and mexico. the answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings. >> now you've seen that for yourself. we should note, of course, this judge, one of the most important things he did is say that the trial in this case would not happen until after the election. now shortly after that interview, more inflammatory language trump went to a rally after that interview? redding, california. and while there, he pointed out a black man in the crowd. here's how he did it. >> look at my african-american over here. of look at him. >> jason carol is "outfront" tonight, traveling with the trump campaign in california. jason, obviously you see that. it is a four-second clip of trump referring to a black man attending the rally. what was the context if there is any context to explain that?
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and what is the trump campaign saying tonight? >> reporter: let's start with the context. as you heard in that interview with jake tapper where donald trump talked about how he will do well with first of all latinos because he's going to bring jobs back. he said the same thing here at this rally, but said the reason he would do well with african-american but gore the same reason. he's going to bring jobs back to the country. he then went on to say, erin, another african-american man who attended another rally and how this man had kicked out a white supremacist. then he turned and pointed out an african-american in this crowd. >> when we have a protester inside, which isn't very often. i say be very gentle. please don't hurt him. take care of him. if he wants to shout. if -- if he punches you in the face, smile. as your nose is pouring blood out of it. be very, very nice.
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we had a case where we had african-american guy who was a fan of mine. great fan. great guy. in fact, i want to find out what's going on with him. you know -- look at my african-american over here. look at him. are you the greatest? do you know what i'm talking about? okay. >> reporter: okay. so you heard it in proper context there. i mean, you know, the reality is, those who support donald trump support him in part because he's not politically correct. and that he speaks in plain language. even if that language is at times offensive and the language that he used there, that term he used, was offensive. just like many people who are of latin descent are offended by some of the things he has said about them. social media lighting up about this particular incident. campaign spokeswoman, hope hicks, weighing in on the situation, basically saying no ill will was attended. that trump was trying to compliment this man. she said his comments were not
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racist. but when you're running for president of the united states, erin, you know more than anyone, every word that you say, is looked at very, very closely. all of your words must be chosen carefully, but trump is a man who says, i'm not necessarily going to do that. i'm not going to change my temperament. i'm not going to change my tone. erin? >> jason, thank you very much. and we're going to talk much more about the, quote, "my african-american" comment in a moment. now i want to bring in the president of the largest christian-evangelical in the united states. and tara set meyer, republican who opposes trump. i want to start here on the merits of trump's argument legally, okay? in this case with the american judge who is of mexican descent. mark o'mara, criminal defense attorney who won the george zimmerman case. he just said in his words, there is absolutely, quote, no basis for this judge to recuse himself. and i -- and i go to the bottom
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line point that i made a moment ago. this judge's most important ruling perhaps was that he said this wouldn't go to trial until after the election. so that donald trump would not be dealing with this during the election. so that it wouldn't possibly sway people. do you think that donald trump has any standing here, to say this judge should recuse himself? >> yeah, absolutely. the judge should recuse himself. first of all, the judge is a member of this san diego lore asa lawyer's association. could you imagine a member of the case a member of the san diego white lawyers association. on its face, this is a bad place for a judge to be. >> right. but we just want to interrupt for a moment. there is a group known for -- >> right. >> far left wing policies. that is not the group that this judge is a member. but what he is a member of a professional group. how is that any different from our business, the national association of asian journalists or black journalists? >> right. to the point exactly. it's all about the racialization of the legal profession. let's just remember that now
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justice sotomayor gave all sorts of speeches which liberals applauded in which she said a quote, unquote, wise latina would do better on the bench than a white male. this is about racializing justice. and it's wrong. and in this particular instance with donald trump, this goes far beyond donald trump. this is a much larger issue. to be perfectly candid, i like speaker ryan, but i am utterly baffled that he has gone from the party of lincoln, reagan and kemp to the party of racializing justice. this is wrong and this judge ought to be out of this case posthaste. >> reverend reasonable degree rez, what do you say when you hear that? that this judge belongs to a group of hispanic judges, hispanic people in the legal profession? by the way, those groups exist for every single group in every single profession. >> paul ryan is right. donald trump is wrong. the judge does not have to recuse himself. and how about this? we have to stop using this futuristic conjugation that one day donald trump will build a
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wall. donald trump already built a wall. a wall dividing him and the hispanic-american electorate. the latino electorate. even latino conservatives, jack kemp, ronald reagan, abraham lincoln supporters, they are alienated every time donald trump brings up the heritage of this american judge. he continues to add a cinder black, a significant piece of concrete, to that proverbial wall. >> donald trump repeatedly, you saw him there with jake tapper, said that judge curiel is mexic mexican. just for the facts here. judge curiel is not mexican. he is american, the same way that anybody who is born in this country is american. his parents happen to have been born in mexico. when you hear this, as someone who supports donald trump, do you in any way scratch your head and say, this is wrong? >> not at all. i'm scratching my head at the media's reaction, actually.
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i'm cuban-american and i refer to myself as cuban. my friends and family call ourselves cuban. it's perfectly normal. and i have mexican-american friends that refer to themselves as mexican. i don't see the controversy there. as far as the actual judge goes, i do completely agree with donald trump that he should consider recusing himself. as a latina myself, if i were issuing the type of questionable rulings the judge has issued in this case, i would naturally expect donald trump to say or any plaintiff in his position to say, hey, is it possible the comments i made a year ago about latinas offended you? i wouldn't be offended by that. and maybe i would say, hey, maybe i should step down. so i think the problem is, you've had for a year the media saying there is no way that latinos support trump. there is no way that latinos weren't offended. all latinos dislike trump. which is not true. and then there has been a 180 saying the latinos don't like trump but there is no possible way this latino judge dislikes
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trump. how could that be? you can't have it both ways. either latinos don't like trump or there is a possibility that this judge -- has some personal animus against him. >> aj, referring to -- you hear aj referring to latinos and latinas as one monolithic group. you either like him or you don't like him. your response? >> no, no. donald trump has a latino issue. indeed. i mean, we could see that. look, i have great angst. i mean, with donald trump's rhetorical demagoguery and hyperbole. he's alienating the very demographic that supported george w. bush with 44% of the vote. 27% mitt romney. and it's possible to occupy pennsylvania avenue unless you engage latinos in had colorado, new mexico and florida. so we as have a latino issue. why does he continue to stoke the fire by mentioning the ethnic heritage of a judge.
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it's counterintuitive, counter productive. in my opinion, wrong. stop using the race issue and focus on the policies that need to be addressed as expeditiously as possible. >> tara. >> i am just fascinated, astonished, dismayed, horrified by this conversation. we are sitting here actually justifying a presidential candidate who is racially pro filing a judge because he happens to be of mexican descent, saying that a federal judge, who, by the way, has presided over dozens of drug cases against the drug cartels, mostly from mexico. >> right. >> successfully gone after them hard. so apparently he is capable of putting his, quote, mexican bias, apparently, aside when it comes to that. but because donald trump isn't getting his way in a fraud case, which has been brought against him on both -- excuse me, both coasts -- you know, he's throwing a temper tantrum. not only that, but the fact that he is so hell bent on pointing
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out the ethnicity of the judge, a judge is a judge, because they are not the average person. they're there because they're supposed to have the blinders of justice on to be able to preside over a case and present their unbiased judgment. and to claim that -- i just want everyone to sit here and substitute the word mexican for black. for woman. for any other group that is considered to be not acceptable when they branch them out or by gender. and this would not be the same conversation. it's unacceptable and anyone that's justifying this should be ashamed of themselves. >> aj, let me get you in here. you were rolling your eyes. >> yeah. >> first of all, donald trump doesn't have a latino problem. a recent poll showed he's apology at 32%. refuse rebld, that's five points higher than romney got. and who won in the gop primary? that would be donald trump. he doesn't have a latino problem. he has the support of millions
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of latinos. and as for tara's point about judges, i'm sorry, tara, it's unamerican to say we cannot question judges in this country. >> not their ethnicity! it's racist. >> you're being unamerican! >> no, i'm not! you sit there and judge people by the color of their skin or ethnicity. >> he's not questioning his ethnicity. don't lie. >> he said he's a mexican. he has an inherent bias. what do you think that means? >> this is not about -- not about whether he was bothered by the comments a year ago. you need to tone it down. >> no. >> and look at the context of what he said. >> he said he's a mexican and he's building a wall. >> thank you very much. you're all going to be back with me. i do just want to say on that poll we're going to talk more about polls in a moment. not a poll that we actually recognize here. we have donald trump polling at 18% among hispanics. "outfront" next, trump calling a black man, quote, my african-american.
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breaking news tonight. donald trump in the hot seat. the likely gop nominee under fire for controversial remarks he made moments ago about a black supporter at a rally in california. here he is. >> oh, look at my african-american over here. look at him. are you the greatest? do you know what i'm talking about? okay. >> the trump campaign just responding to cnn, saying trump was just referring to a supporter and it is, quote, ridiculous to accuse him of being racist. this comes as the fight between hillary clinton and donald trump
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becomes even nastier and more personal. and she, of course, going after these issues tonight. manu raju is "outfront." >> reporter: the battle for the white house is now a race to define the other, as too flawed to be president. >> i think hillary is very weak. i think she's pathetic. i think she should be in jail for what she did with her e-mails. >> he doesn't really have ideas. he just engages in rants and personal feuds and outright lies. something that our country cannot afford in a commander in chief. >> reporter: tonight, in dueling interviews with cnn's jake tapper, hillary clinton and donald trump continue their war of words. trump sharply questioning clinton's judgment over the iraq war. >> she mentions that i'll bring us into war. she is the one that wanted to go into iraq. i mean, she raised her hand. she didn't know what the hell she was doing. >> well, he supported it. we have evidence and audio of him supporting it. so i think that's another example of him trying to rewrite
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history. >> reporter: clinton just days away from her expected clinching of the nomination, already looking past her primary foe, bernie sanders. and preparing for what already is an ugly general election. >> an economic policy, i think he is really missing the whole point, and disqualified. what does he say about education? not a word. >> reporter: last night, outside of trump's rally in san jose, scores of demonstrators angrily protesting the real estate mogul's hard line views on immigration. and some violently attacking trump supporters and even burning the american flag. clinton telling cnn, the violence has to stop. but her opponent has a role in its rise. >> i condemned it when donald trump was inciting it. and congratulating people who were engaging in it. i condemn it by those who are taking violent protests to physical assault. against donald trump. this has to end.
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>> reporter: and a rally this afternoon in redding, california, trump criticizing the anti trump protesting. >> the thugs last night in san jose. and then there's democrat mayor gets up, saying, i think it was donald trump -- i don't even say -- you know what i say now? when we have a protester inside, which isn't even very often. i say, be very gentle. we had a case where we had an african-american guy who was a fan of mine. great fan. great guy. in fact, i want to find out what's going on with him. you know what -- look at my african-american over here. look at him. are you the greatest? you know what i'm talking about? >> looking at his african-american supporters, really the type of thing that deeply worries republicans here in washington. having to respond to their standard barriers clumsy and sometimes offensive comments. that's one reason why the republican leadership by paul ryan and mitch mcconnell have
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spoken out in recent days, hoping their members can distance themselves from trump and run their own campaign. especially when he's saying controversial things, erin. jason osborne, michael nutter, and the founder and senior pastor of new spirit revival center and tara set meier. manu, setting it up well. clumsy or racist? >> ignorant. just when you think you've heard, you know, the last dumb, crazy, weird, bizarre thing, now we have the attack on the american judge and his heritage. the pointing out of a singular african-american at a rally. i don't get that. and this is some very strange and disturbing behavior by this
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individual. and i think that republicans, who have endorsed him, like speaker ryan, just yesterday, and he blows it up and he's going to take down many of the republicans in their respective races all across the country with this kind of bizarre behavior. >> pastor scott, you were a vocal donald trump supporter, you have supported him through thick and thin. but you sit and you hear this. as an african-american. as a black man. donald trump referring to a black man's rally as look at my african-american. how does that make you feel? does it bother you at all? >> no, it doesn't bother me at all. because i know donald trump, and i know his -- well, i know him better than a lot of other people do. i really believe he was utilizing that as a term of endearment. he's trying to learn to be more politically correct and use the politically correct terms. and america has never been this sensitive before. i mean, this entire country is walking on egg shells. and i believe it's indicative of the racial climate of this
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country. that everybody is walking on egg shells. i mean, to be honest, erin, in my lifetime, we've been politically correct terms for us when i was child. we were colored and then from there we were negroes and then james brown sang a song saying say it loud i'm black and proud. and then people of color and now african-americans. so i believe what people are trying to say is racial for donald trump. it's not racial. it's cultural. and he's trying to utilize the right terminology and it was a term of endearment. look at my supporters here. looks out and sees an african-american in the crowd, he's engine winly glad he's there. he didn't treat him like he's sand bow or buck wheat. he was generally appreciative to see him there and expressed his appreciation. >> i'm telling you. this is like political stockholm syndrome. >> terms of endearment. >> justify this. my blank is not a term of en deermt. so, you know, it's -- when you
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sit here and say,it not about the fact that he called him an african-american. it's the fact that he felt the need to have to point him out because he was black and in the crowd and say, oh, look, there's my african-american, like does he own you? does he own his, quote, fans? i mean, this is not the first time -- he's -- >> hillary clinton saying -- that's no different than hillary clinton saying she carries hot sauce in her purse. >> she does, pastor. >> i saw hillary clinton at a town hall meeting with some black journalists, and she did the whip and the nae nae. now, come on. >> so what does that have to do -- >> what does this have to do with this language? >> should he apologize, jason? >> no, because i think -- look, if you've done a campaign, and there's a few -- there's two of us here that have done campaigns before. you get in the mood and then we talked about this earlier in the green room, which is the sense that he is in the heat of the moment.
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and he's looking at the crowd, he just got through talking about obama, not liking the clintons and he looks out in the crowd, which is not unusual for him. he's done it with veterans, elderly. >> picks people out of crowds, true. >> and he brings them up on stage. and i think his words got ahead of his -- his brain got ahead of his words. and so he wasn't -- it wasn't him saying, that's my african-american. honestly, and he speaks for himself. i could see it in his mind saying, that i have african-american support. look, here's some right here. >> then why didn't he just say that? >> that is what he was trying to say. >> who knows what he's actually trying to say. but this is a 60-plus-some-year-old man who is still trying to figure out how to treat people incident decently and use some language that makes sense. he's at his own rally. it wasn't like an intense circumstance or situation. >> you understand these things. >> i get that. >> if you look at 2007 -- >> hold on one second, pastor scott. let jason finish.
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>> where is the comparison. if hillary clinton wants to start comparing, you know, sort of racist comments, when bill clinton sat there and called barack obama a fairy tale and a kid. there was outrage. donna brazil was on this network talking about how racist that is. so now for hillary clinton coming out and saying donald trump is a racist when it was a number. a word was not in the right place. it was -- >> a pattern here. i mean, first we're on the judge. who is american. and you're trying to litigate your case in public that is not going to happen until sometime next year and you keep this dialogue going. he's got a loop tape or something in his head and just keeps saying it over and over and over again. i'm building a wall, i'm building a wall, i'm building a wall. what does that have to do -- >> this is also a judge that just last week said, you know, this court decision and its honor has been impugned. i'm releasing these records. i'm unsealing files in this
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lawsuit. >> i don't know anything about this case. i don't care about the case. it's a pattern with him. he cannot -- he can't control himself. >> hold on. it was in response to a freedom of information act request from the "washington post." >> but he also injected that he acknowledged that trump had made comments about him and the court. i'm not defending donald trump's right to say that he is of mexican heritage. that's donald trump -- no, i'm not, tara. >> you are. he used his ethnicity. you can be critical of the judge for making different decisions against him. but bringing up his ethnicity is what the u is that's a problem. just like on the other side, we as conservatives and republicans have always criticized liberals. things that racist things that joe biden said about, you know, you can't go into a duncan doughnuts without an indian accent. those are things we were horrified about. so stop being a hypocrite.
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>> we talk about the joe biden thing all of the time. >> tara you're trying to act like you're not aware of the racial climate in america. the only reason i stand out as a trump supporter is because i'm black. >> apparently. according to donald trump. >> as an african-american supporter of trump, as a black supporter of trump. so don't try to act like we're in america but we don't understand the racial climate of this country. >> so you're acknowledging it's okay for donald trump to parade you out as a political pawn. >> hold on, hold on. can't hear you both at the same time. >> i still have my ear to the ground and the black community. and there are so many blacks who hope they don't get white judges. so don't try to act like you're not aware of culture in america. >> so you're okay, then, with people being racist. you're okay then. you're okay with donald trump using race and then people being racial. you're okay with that. >> you're like that. you find me an aberration because i'm black and i support trump. >> i didn't say that. donald trump does. >> pastor. >> right now you look at me as
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an aberration. >> justifying race -- >> final word. >> this is not about any of the four of us. donald trump is running for president of the united states. of america. he cannot control himself. >> okay. >> we can't hear when you all talk at the same time. i'm going to end it there. thank you very much. "outfront" next, one day after paul ryan endorsed donald trump, the house speaker blasted trump for attacking the judge in the trump university lawsuit. so could he back out of his endorsement, right to the heart of what we have been talking about so far this hour. and our special report on trump's golf course. the taxes he pays on them. is it is it one reason he's not releasing his returns? it's not how fast you mow, it's how well you mow fast. it's not how fast you mow, it's how well you mow fast. even if it doesn't catch on, doesn't mean it's not true. the john deere ztrak z535m. it's how well you mow fast. ngo to ziprecruiter.com and post your job to over one hundred of the web's leading job boards with a single click. then simply select the best candidates from one easy to review list.
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new tonight, house speaker paul ryan pushing back against donald trump, less than 24 hours after endorsing him, because of the presume it active nominee's latest attack on an american judge. ryan saying he completely disagrees with trump's view that the judge in the trump university case has a conflict of interest because of his hispanic roots. sunlen serfaty is "outfront." ♪ >> reporter: donald trump escalating his attacks on the judge overseeing the lawsuit against trump university.
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now, this judge is of mexican heritage. i'm building a wall, okay? i'm building a wall. >> reporter: the presumptive republican nominee telling cnn's jake tapper that judge curiel born to mexican immigrant parents should recuse himself from the case. trump's wave of attacks prompting a rebuke today from house peeker, paul ryan, who yesterday announced his support. >> the comment about the judge yesterday was out of left field from my mind. i completely disagree with the thinking behind that. >> trump is attempting to smooth over another rift within the republican party. trying to clean up his criticism of new mexico's susana martinez, the nation's only latina republican governor. >> we have to get your governor to get going. she's got to do a better job, okay? your governor has got to do a better job. >> reporter: now trump is extending an olive branch, telling a new mexico newspaper, he would like martinez's endorsement, saying, quote, i
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respect her. i have always liked her. martinez, who has been critical of trump's rhetoric over immigration is withholding her endorsement. >> is it possible you might not endorse him, ma'am? >> i'm waiting to hear from him as to addressing the issues facing new mexico. >> reporter: republican leaders are urging trump to tone down his rhetoric, warning it's doing harm to the party's outreach to hispanics. >> going after susana martinez, the republican governor of new mexico, the chairman of the republican governor's association, i think it was a big mistake. what he ought to be doing now is try to unify the party. >> reporter: trump does not seem to share those concerns. >> the hispanics, we love the hispanics. thank you, everybody. >> reporter: and the clinton campaign is wasting no time at all picking up on all of this. a clinton spokesperson saying the fact that donald trump doesn't see the judge and his family as americans makes him unfit to be president. that's the line of attack the clinton campaign has really been hammering down on trump for the last 24 hours. erin, clearly seeing this as
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falling right into that argument. >> all right. thank you very much, sunlen. and back with me now, donald trump supporter, jason osborne, former mayer of philadelphia, nutter, and sam rodriguez, part of the christian evangelical organization here in the united states. jason, it wasn't 24 hours. paul ryan comes out, says he's not ready to endorse donald trump, takes his time, they have this meeting. he final comes out yesterday and says he's voting for him. explains why. now it's not 24 hours later and says he completely disagrees with everything trump says about this judge. should ryan take this endorsement back? >> no, i think he was very clear when he said in the endorsement he may not agree with donald trump on everything. and i think that's our right. i certainly don't agree with donald trump on every single issue. so him coming out today, i think it was just kind of coincidence. but no, he's not going to take back the endorsement. >> should he? >> well, i'll leave it to speaker ryan. i didn't advise him to endorse donald trump in the first place. but i think he's rethinking -- he has to be thinking, is this what it's going to be like from
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now through november? donald trump is showing us every day who he is, the real person. no mysteries with him. he has no filter. he has no ability to contain himself. and what speaker ryan, i know -- has to be worried about, as a former candidate, he's worried about his fellow house republicans, and their races, because every democrat is going to take every one of these remarks, tag their opponent with them, because they're supporting donald trump. that's what the speaker is worried about. >> paul ryan does seem very hesitant right now. obviously, he came around and puts this out. he's here's a little bit more about what he had to say today about donald trump and the concerns he has. >> he clearly says and does things i don't agree with. and i've had to speak up from time to time when that has occurred and i'll continue to do that if necessary. i hope it's not. >> i mean, he hopes it's not. i mean, reverend rodriguez, do you think he should reconsider? if someone like paul ryan were to say, you know, what i thought about it, i know it's going to
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hurt me to look like i'm not a person of conviction, but i'm change my mind, no longer backing him, what would that mean? >> that would be a tipping point, indeed. speaker ryan should be commended and applauded for that stern rebuke. again, donald trump's comments of susana martinez, who in the latino conservative movement is a rock star. and, again, the demagoguery regarding the judge in southern california, it speaks to what one of your previous guests erroneously referenced, this idea that 32% of latinos are supporting donald j. trump? that's a misnomer. completely incorrect. i think paul ryan needs to meet donald trump and have a come to jesus moment. and say, dear donald donald trump. the future of the republican party and the conservative movement lies in the hands of the hispanic-american electorate. the very electorate you are alienating every single day more and more. for the love of abraham lincoln, ronald reagan and jack kemp, please stop immediately. that conversation needs to take place sooner than later. >> but reverend rodriguez, when
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you look at how donald trump is doing among hispanics, among blacks, pulling at 4%. okay? among hispanics, a recent poll, 18%. quinnipiac poll. a fox news poll, 23%. mitt romney did, what, 27, 28% -- >> 27. >> george w. bush, the last one to win the white house, 44. significantly better. but donald trump, with everything he said about hispanics, isn't doing that much worse than mitt romney. that's a pretty incredible statement, isn't it? >> yeah, it does. but it speaks likewise to the great amount of angst and consternation latinos have regarding the policies coming from the other side. so there are issues. there are great issues. latinos are a fluid community. we are not monolithic. latinos have faith values, and that resonate with part of the republican platform. but just its values that resonate with part of the democratic platform. so we're basically the convergence of billy graham and martin luther king jr. in a blender and that's who we are. so we have both those optics. so it's a fluid community,
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indeed. one that could be -- it's winnable for either party. those that move more towards a center sort of world view. >> jason, here's the thing. donald trump has to get a lot of money to win? okay? it takes a couple billion dollars, doesn't have money that's liquid, he said. hillary clinton is way ahead of him. i've spoken to some of these mega donors. they hear the comments about the mexican judge and they just don't know what to do. they're shocked and their appalled and they're thinking, wait a minute, how can i cut a check for this guy. but he's got to have those people chut him checks. are you worried about that? are you worried that comments like these are going to turn off the big money people? not just paul ryan for the big money. >> no, i think donald trump is not your traditional candidate. so every time we hear that he doesn't fit the mold at a traditional candidate, he needs to do this or he needs to do that, he hasn't been doing that now for 12 months. so why would we expect him to change his tune? i think what we're going to hear over the next several months is his plan for america. and what he is going to do to get jobs back here, what he's going to do to make america stronger. and what he's going to do that's
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different from hillary clinton. and one point you made earlier, which i find kind of ironic. when you said that donald trump is transparent, he has no filter. i think that's great. because on the other side, hillary has people taking the fifth. we don't know what's going on with these speeches she made to wall street. >> we've got to leave it there. >> his personal comments about people. that's what we're talking about. he has no ability to contain himself or be a leader. >> all right. thank you all and "outfront" next, donald trump owns 17 golf courses around the world. making up a lot of his net worth. wait until you hear how much he's paying in taxes on them. our special report. and breaking news. we're awaiting a press conference, the latest on four soldiers who at this hour are missing in ft. hood, texas. a development tonight. we'll be right back. i refuse to lie down. why suffer? stand up to chronic migraine... with botox®. botox® is the only treatment for chronic migraine shown to actually prevent headaches and migraines before they even start.
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breaking news out of texas at this hour. this is a live press conference at ft. hood. we are awaiting officials to give us an update here on four soldiers missing after their truck was swept away during severe flooding. they are the focus of a frantic search at this hour. the death toll has risen. five soldiers now confirmed dead. nick valencia has our report. >> reporter: a desperate search by air, land and water, under way in the floodwaters around ft. hood in central texas. four soldiers still missing, more than 24 hours after their vehicle with 12 men on board overturned and was swept away by floodwaters. >> the water was rising quickly, and we were in the process of at the moment of the event of closing the roads. >> reporter: five soldiers died. three were rescued by soldiers who happened to be nearby.
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officials called it a routine training exercise. >> they regularly pass through these kind of weather conditions like this. >> reporter: teams from ft. hood aided by state and local emergency crews are searching for miles around the fort. days of record rainfall have swamped much of texas. the slow-moving storm dumping more than 8 inches of rain in the last two days on houston alone. six people were killed in the past week, due to the severe weather. thousands have been evacuated. hundreds in low-lying areas have been rescued. >> they had said when they rescue, we've got to get out now. and that it was coming up like an inch a minute. >> reporter: the governor declaring a state of disaster, and 31 counties. this is the second year in a row that texas has been hit by what meteorologists call a 500-year flood. behind me. we're standing by for a press conference from fort hood
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officials where they say we will be given a significant development. four soldiers remain missing at this hour. earlier a spokesman for fort hood said the soldiers train in severe weather conditions. he called this an unfortunate accident. erin? >> all right, nick, thank you very much. donald trump touting his upcoming trip to the u.k. to reopen one of his luxury golf courses, tweeting so much interest in my visit to scotland, one of 17 clubs trump has across the globe. these courses makeup a lot of donald trump's net worth, and no one knows what his net worth is. when it comes to taxes on the golf courses. kyung lah has tonight's big number. >> reporter: donald trump and the release of his tax return, a repeated question on the campaign trail. >> you do pay some federal taxes? >> i do, i do. >> reporter: he won't say how much he pays, says he has income of nearly 600 million, worth more than $10 billion.
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much worth coming from golf courses, according to campaign filings. trump owns 17 golf courses around the world, including a luxury golf resort south of los angeles. trump says in financial disclosures it is worth more than $50 million. public tax documents obtained by cnn show in 2007 the course was worth 67 million. but year after year trump filed hundreds of appeals to drop the value of the golf course by tens of millions of dollars, all of those appeals dropped the value to $27.7 million, down $40 million in nine years. why? lower the value, lower the tax bill for trump. paying fewer taxes, a fact that trump isn't ashamed to tout. >> i fight very hard to pay as little tax as possible. >> reporter: what trump is doing is par for the course, the golf course business, says larry hirsch who analyzes property
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values. >> sure, he's an example of a guy that's very proud of his wealth, likes to display it in many different ways, but like any business man he wants to pay as little in taxes as possible. >> reporter: hirsch won't comment about any specific trump property but says for him the red flag is when the gap is too wide. >> you can't have your cake and eat it too and say on a financial statement or for a loan that something is worth 50 million and then say it is worth a million and a half. >> reporter: but that's exactly what trump is doing in new york at his westchester golf course. trump claims the course is worth more than $50 million. the town tax assess or currently values it at 15.1 million. trump's attorneys file tax paperwork claiming it is worth only $1.4 million, saving him hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes. minimizing taxes, that's the same story at the golf club in new jersey. trump says in campaign filings it is worth more than 50
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million. the town values it at 32. qualifying this luxury resort for a farm land tax break lowering taxes by thousands of dollars. hillary clinton making her own hay of trump's worth saying he should be transparent about his wealth, properties and income. >> that's why he should release his tax returns, prove that he actually has a level of success he claims to have. >> reporter: the trump campaign did not respond to repeated requests to comment on golf course taxes. regarding the personal tax release, the returns, the campaign said something he said over and over again, he is going through an audit and when the audit is done, he will release the tax returns. erin? >> thank you very much. kyung lah. could set you back $40,000 a
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wealth management, at charles schwab. inside man is back. more began spurlock tries to find out how easy or hard it is to be a professional gambler. among perks for those at the top of their game, stunning vip suites. >> reporter: if you're a true high roller, you might get to stay in a luxury suite like this one without paying a dime. if you're spending big money on gambling, most casinos want you to spend that cash on their turf. there's a pool on the balcony. one of the best views of las vegas. i can see how this could entice
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someone to stay awhile. the longer they stay, the more they'll spend down on the casino floor, which means one thing for the casinos, more gambling profits. >> that's sick. morgan spurlock, outfront. how much money to gamble to get a suite like that. >> thousands, tens of thousands. you have to come in with a really big bankroll. >> so you're basically paying for the suite. >> that suite, when they first opened that casino, that rented for $40,000 a night when they first opened the casino. >> $40,000 a night. there were people paying $40,000 a night. >> correct. insane. >> wow. obviously most of us do not gamble in amounts enough to get a $40,000 suite for free. >> ever. >> what is the typical pro gambler like, how many people are spending that kind of money gambling? >> you would be surprised, a large number of people make a living as professional gamblers.
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they spend thousands. they may not spend high roller but spending thousands and making a living playing cards, black jack, craps, you name it. >> where are these people from, americans, chinese? >> they're from all over the world. there are people that made this their life work to be professional gamblers and there are lists of people that casinos have of people that figured ways to beat the system, you get put on a list, slowly but surely they whittle you out of -- >> they know when to hold, when to fold. >> when to kick you out the door. >> if these people do it for a living, they're presumably beating the house more often than they're losing. >> and they develop techniques that aren't illegal. >> not counting cards. >> if you can count cards, a lot of guys, there are card counting methods, understanding when to bet against whether you have more aces or face cards in the deck, keeping that number is what makes you a professional.
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>> thank you very much. i can't wait to see this. >> thank you. >> the season premier at 10:00. watch outfront anywhere on cnn go and see the full interview with the billionaire mohamed alabbar on my show this weekend. ac 360 starts now. good evening, thanks for joining us. tonight, donald trump taking attacks on the federal judge hearing the lawsuit against the operation known as trump university to new levels. an american judge, which should go without saying, saying that trump and spokesperson are insinuating otherwise, saying this judge's true loyalties lie elsewhere with mexico. in a "the wall street journal" interview last night, trump flat out said this judge and prosecutor born to mexican parents in indiana lived from threat from
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