>> so in this episode, we're talking about people who live off the grid. does anyone else think that sounds horrible? off the grid? off the grid? i love the grid. i am a big fan of the grid. grid me. grid me. i'm a big fan of the grid. i get that this grid means the government is watching at all times and keeping tabs on what you do. as a black person, i'm like yeah, but the grid comes with free wifi so that's kind of an upgrade.

and now i'm challenging myself to dig deeper. i'm on a mission to reach out and experience all the cultures and belief that add color to this crazy country. this is united shades of america.

all people looking to go their own way. >> hi. i am kamau. >> hope. >> i am correl. nice to meet you. it is my first day in asheville,

it is known as a place where people can come, reinvent themselves and start over. >> it is definitely a place where a lot of cultures can come together as one and not have a lot of judgments against each other. >> let your freak flag fly. >> yes. we used to do that in the bay area, the property valus went up too high. we ship the freak flags out now. this is the place to riinvent yourself. do you think it is a good place for. >> that well, i weld. >> you will be a welder here in asheville. >> or a black smith. >> i don't mean to profile you. you seem to be outside of the main street. >> we think we are in the main stream. part of the world's oldest religion. >> wica, pagannism. yes, we are witches.

>> why asheville the place for that? . the mountain folk, they will give people a shot no matter outside of main stream they seem to be. win their respect. you can be into free rights for dogs, or anything. >> i like that you went to a wacky place of free rights for dogs. for a lot of people watching on tv, they think this is already a wacky place. >> okay. all right. black smiths, and a couple of witches, i am down. >> here, everybody is open. you can talk to anybody, you can make contact. it is really, it is different. i live for christ. it is cool. not a lot of judgmental, and hate. it is cool. >> i know i am in a special place. the last half hour, i talked to a wican, and a person living for christ, about a hundred feet apart from each other. not a lot of places on the

planet that is the case. >> nice to meet you. >> being part of the counter culture in asheville, it is the norm. there are communities, up in the mountains, they are self sustaining. that is so crazy to me. >> exactly, that is why we are here. how do they survive in the hills? >> asheville is not only supportive of people who want to live off the grid, they have do it yourself stores for it. like this one, villagers. those who are looking to creates a sustaining life. >> if i am tired of the man, keeping his hand in my pocket, i can come here, buy some stuff, and get off the grid. start a new life. >> you can totally do that

cancel your phone, yes. >> i can't do that. i am not as extreme. i would still like phone service. i want the man's hand slightly out of my pocket. >> how are you living your life? reflective in what you have here. >> i live in a tiny home. >> like a tiny home. >> tiny home. i have seen pictures of them. you like in a tiny home? >> yes. >> you are welcome to come out and check it out. >> can i? you might hit your head. >> i do that regularly. >> in the last 40 years, american homes have gotten bigger. in 1973, the medium home was 1,500 square feet. by 2010, it has grown to 2100 square feet. a size increase of 40%. some people are choosing to schink their home to 400 square

feet or less. there are many reasons, a tiny home can cost less than $25,000. the average of $3341,000. >> this is my house. >> it is 265 square feet of heaven. >> thank you. >> just like heaven, there is not room for everybody. >> this is the kitchen. >> that was quick. >> very efficient. >> this is sort of food prep area, where i cook. xwurners, appliances, and a fridge down here. and then, on this side, my kitchen sink, i don't have any water hooked up yet. that is why i have this here. i shower at the gym. the bare minimum here. >> regular sized bananas.

>> everything regular sized fits in a tiny home. >> this ladder lead says up to the loft. >> that is the bedroom. >> you can. >> i feel i might break it. >> it is built solid. it can handle you. >> wait a minute. >> this is nice. >> not bad. >> i have to be honest. when i saw it from upstairs, there is no way to have a romantic even up here. >> you can. missionary. you can cycle through some of the karm article sutraup here. >> welcome to take a seat. when you sit down.

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so i'm trying to understand people who live off the grid. my producers have got this great idea, i should go visit a real life prepper in the woods. %-p unarmed but he didn't let us insist that he be unarmed. weird how that works. so where did the prepper phenomenon come from? back in the 1950s and '60s, the government was telling children to hide under their desks to protect themselves from nuclear bombs. back then, desks were built out of special nuclear bomb-proof materials. the government was telling those kids parents to build fallout shelters to keep a stockpile to live off of during the post nuclear war mad max area.

when the cold war ended and the annihilation passed, many preppers morphed into patriots, end is it of food and water, patriots are also hoarding guns and ammunition. i wonder what made them so afraid. here is the graph of the number of patriot groups in the u.s. in 1997. back then, their numbers were falling. i wonder if 9/11 will spike their numbers? no. what about the iraq war? >> no. hurricane cat tree no? -- hurricane katrina? no. barack obama becoming president? no. huh? go figure. wonder if they will spike again when he figures out a way to run for his third term. so, i'm 30 miles outside of asheville heading to meet a prepper. apparently, the only thing the guy likes more than his guns is being left alone. oh, and he wants to wear a mask, because he doesn't want anybody to know his identity. wait, is that my dad?

>> i see you made it up that mountain all right. >> nice to meet you. >> nice to meet you too. let me show you around a little bit. >> is this off the grid? >> absolutely. >> are you a prepper, a survivalist? >> i'm kind of like all of the above. i believe in living as simply as possible. i don't have neighbors that i have to listen to. >> what do you like about living so far away from mainstream society? >> freedom, absolutely. absolutely. nobody telling me what to do or how to live my life. this is an unzoned area. if i want to put pigs down that path, i could. if my wife would permit that, i would. >> that's the funny thing about freedom.

eventually, there is somebody you have to talk to about freedom. this is pretty much what i have to see at a prepper camp, solar panels, tanks of propane, strange broken-down generator, check and a dog who is thinking, how come i don't get to wear a mask? check. >> there is a stigma about people who live off the grid like this and people would call you crazy or like you've got a screw loose. how do you feel about that stigma? >> i think the same about them. >> why do you think that about them? >> the way the government is going and the nsa, intrusions into people's lives. i think more and more people will find this lifestyle more accommodating. what they don't have the right in washington to do is to tell you or me what to do when it is in violation of the

constitution. i think obama even said that the constitution gets in his way. >> so are you willing -- what are you willing to do to keep your freedom? how far are you willing to go? >> i'll die. i'll die. and everybody i know around will do the same. >> that sounds fine to me. i just hope we both agree that that day isn't today. >> have you ever shot a gun? >> not proficient with it. i don't own a gun. >> everybody should have a gun to protect our nation from regime change. >> i just feel like guns are not ice-cream for the sake of a better society, we have to restrict how we deal with guns different than we restrict ice-cream. we should also restrict some ice-cream if you look at my gut you could tell this is not ice-cream.

>> this is an inalienable right. >> after i watch you load that gun, i see your point. >> talking about guns. what is this right here? >> that's an ar-15. >> i have to hold it like i'm holding a baby. ♪ go to sleep little baby ♪ don't cry >> that thing is just an inanimate piece of plastic and metal like a car. it won't kill anybody unless you pull that trigger after it is loaded and then it can be extremely deadly. >> the difference between a gun and a car, this can't drop the kids off at soccer practice. >> that's a fact but it can sure motivate them to go to soccer. >> i guess we have different parenting styles, john. >> that's a joke. >> you would like to fire this, i know you do. >> when in rome. >> you hold that. you keep that muzzle straight up for me. >> absolutely. there is not one in the chamber but there is plenty in that clip.

>> i don't want to be too critical of john's prepping style but he did just give a gun to a total stranger and turn his back. >> here we go. >> honey, where did i put my extra ammo? >> you can take it right on up. >> and let it go. >> this is like losing my virginity. it takes a lot more effort than i expected. >> here we go. >> wow. i don't think i want to do that again. >> you clearly are proficient and respectful of the technology and people on tv will see that.

also, they will see a man living up on the mountain in the woods wearing a mask, dressed in camo, talking about people taking our guns away. that's going to scare some people. >> we are not the enemy of law enforcement or anybody. we just want to live in peace and quiet. i'm wearing a mask for personal reasons. i'm not a bad guy. i get along with everybody. >> the asheville board of tourism is probably not going to use this as the poster for, come to asheville. >> probably not. waiter. water. so why would you invest without checking brokercheck? check your broker with brokercheck. only one network gives you more than just great coverage. it's t-mobile! only t-mobile's lets you stream video and music - for free! and we doubled our lte coverage in the last year. the other guys can't say that! we got you covered.

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so i visited john, the masked patriot that lives off the grid. he still has modern conveniences, cell phones, and rocket launcher that he didn't show me. i want to find somebody way off the grid that i can walk up to him and say, hi, i'm don lemon. i am on my way to meet tod kirshaw. he used to be an ordinary city slicker like me but became so concerned about the damage that humans were doing to the planet. he took the plunge and left civilization behind to live a more ecofriendly life in the woods. he lives 40 miles outside of asheville, somewhere around here, i think. following some vague directions,

i think i'm in the right place. you know, nothing around for miles. no cell phone service, that annoying smell of fresh air. now, tod is going to take me on some mountainman fantasy camp to teach me how to survive one step at a time. i hope they will be baby steps. please, god, let them be baby steps. hey, fellows and ladies. >> hello. >> hey, there. >> hi. my name is kamau. >> i'm tod. grad you made it. welcome. i have a few things i'm trying to get done before dark. >> i'll help you do whatever i can. if you need me to logon to any wi-fi or order you a mocha, i can do those things.

>> which of these would you like to carry? >> i will take this one. >> this seems dangerous enough. >> well what you don't want to do is fall down on top of that. >> that's a good rule, a good rule of thumb. >> i've done it. >> a good rule of thumb and how not to lose your thumbs. just like that, i'm off in the woods with a guy i just met and a tool from a horror movie. oh, dammit, i'm the black guy. >> you can see what it is like when you get off the trail. it is pretty steep. >> are we going down into that? >> not very far. it is just off the trail. i wouldn't do that to you. >> i appreciate it. so this is the log we are going to work on here. >> okay. just hop on the other side of the tree there. let's just make a cut right here. go ahead and grab that handle and pull it straight toward you, very gently, not down. you want to go straight across the log. just kind of float it on there at first. here we go. very gentle and slow.

people think it is a big, rough, macho thing. it is more of a zen thing than it is macho. if we were cutting this whole log up and your back isn't broken by the end. you are just leaning over. >> oh, yeah. isn't that how they say, lift with your back. >> they cut these forests down to nothing with saws like this. >> really impressed at your cutting abilities for the first time. >> maybe i'm a cutting mutant. it is a skill just manifesting itself. >> maybe you should quit tv and go into logging. >> that's the same advice my last agent gave me before i fired him. >> this is the house i live in. i guess i should mention. >> oh, cool. >> if you would like to come in and take a look, you're welcome. >> okay. >> so this is it. this is the main section. this is the east wing over here. >> if i wanted to, you could have space. you could build a bigger space.

you like the tinyness of the house? >> i don't need anything else. it is different if you have a bedroom and a den and all the other things. this is the bedroom and the forest is the living room. if you are done admiring the view, we could go up to the stream and fill up the water jugs. >> lead the way. >> i think you should lead the way. >> i'll lead the way. there are a lot of oak trees around here. we harvest acorns in the fall. you have to leach the tanons out. sometimes i have to soak them for a month or more before they are ready to eat. >> these are acorns? >> if you take a bite of these before they are fully leached, they won't poison you but they don't taste very good. you and i are going to find out if these are ready to eat. >> sounds great. >> i am not going to say anything. i am going to let you try it first.

>> muhammad ali, the boxer called the greatest, is dead at the age of 74. he has just died. he has been in the hospital in phoenix t arizona, the cause of death is unclear, he has been struggling with parkinsons for 30 years, he had been hospitalized f ed hospitalized. >> don, impossible to sum up what muhammad ali gave us. talking about it for some time. >> what a career, what a life. what a moment. muhammad ali, he had fans all over the world. at the age of 74, this man was revered for everything that he did and everything that that he stood for. given what an athletic performer he was, the prowess he showed in the ring, he was one of those athletes, you thought would live forever. of course, he has had such a

major fight for 32 years with parkinsons. we know he was admitted to the hospital on thursday with breathing difficulties. it is not the first time he has been in the hospital, it seemed this was more serious than some of the previous scares. and he has succumb to that sadly, he has lost his life at the age of 74. i can't emphasize enough how much of an impact this will have on his fans all over the world. he wasn't just a boxer or tremendous athlete, he really did transcend his support. he was a princeled man, char izmatic man, he will be sorely missed. >> out-spoken. a quote machine as well. we want to point out, he made

the most incredible move or display outside of the ring, when hoe little the olympic torch. >> it is incredible to think it was 20 years ago, since he lit the olympic flame at the atlanta games, not far from where we are sitting now. at the time, he was 54 years old. his hand shaking, as he was trying to light the caldron with the olympic torch. it was a sobering moment, for those of us who remember how he was in the ring. lightning fast athlete. terrific human specimen. here he was struggling. we haven't seen much of him in public for the last 20 years. of course, he keeps in touch with his fans through social media, and friends who knocked

on his door, can we come in and meet you. he welcomed them. what an amazing gesture, at home, just watching television. you know, when we think about the generation of today, that is the image that they have of muhammad ali. the image that his fans remember, will be of him in the ring, the way he spoke, so eloquent, so funny, so witty, and really, took control of his own image, at a time, when they let the agents and promotors do the talking. he spoke for himself. he took control of his image, didn't let sports writers. back flt go-- in it golden era.

he was just an amazing human being. he lost his tilgs, he refused to fight until vietnam. fighting that he came back to reclaim his world title d it again. three-time champion. >> always confident, muhammad ali. we want to turn to kentucky. he was born. >> you can expect, people have not arrived to the center yet. this is one of those towns that

embraces muhammad ali. the athletes holding to the funeral plans will be here in louisville, kentucky. people will be here. you know, this place will have a special place in his heart for muhammad ali. >> what else can you tell us about the center. >> it is all about muhammad ali? >> tuknow, he had a great affinity for this area. louisville, kentucky being his home. one of the last big public appearances was here in this area, where they call it muhammad ali night. you have a great area that loves

this boxer. he is more than a boxer. talked about all he did. to talk about the injustices across the world. you know he got that medal of freedom from president bush. you can understand how the community still loves the man known as muhammad ali. showing all he did in the ring and outside the ring as well. >> ryan young for us in kentucky. this news has just broken, of the death of muhammad ali. we will see who gathers there, in his memory, as we push on through this night. ryan, we will be getting back to you. >> reporting moments ago, the death of muhammad ali. 74 years old. cnn's wolf blitzer gives us a look at the champ.

we will get to that in a moment. >> he is a provocative figure. just because he wasn't afraid to say anything. he had no filter. >> that's right. he was controversial early in his career. polarizing figure. we remember him now, being articulate and bombastic performer, inside and outside of the ring. i think that, you know, this is something that defined his personality. it wasn't just his athletic prowess or the way he spoke. but the way he stood up for what he belied in. he was an incredibly principled man. when weiss talk about the legacy of muhammad ali, he felt there were bigger problems, that

african-americans had to deal with. it cost him the best years of his career. he could have gone to jail overall. flt end, it wasn't the case. he was able to risume his boxing career. he was prepared to stay here and face the music. the fact that he would stand up for his belief. he encouraging martin luther king jr., he had been concern body moving into that arena, and speaking up in that way. muhammad ali, he was a global icon. recognized. fought all over the world. some of his fights went down as the greatest of all time. films made, people talk about. the rumble in the jungle.

the thrilla in manila. they are documentaries of the man, the fighter thaefrg he stood for. even though we haven't seen him in public for so long, the people of that generation, who grew up with muhammad ali will be hurting as the news filters out. this is a man who just stood for a generation, and inspires so many. >> most dominant sports figure of all time. >> yes, i am sure of it. >> here is a look back at the life of muhammad ali. >> this is the legend of muhammad ali, the greatest fighter there ever will be. >> he proclaimed himself the greatest. and millions of fans around the

world agreed. those phrases because his motto. fly like a butterfly, sting like a bee,." >> you look at me. >> his persona upon began, long before he had his first fight. he was born during an ugly era of racial segregation. a local police officer interviewed him to boxing. it became an outlet for his rage.

he turned pro at 18. and then, at 22, stunned the boxing world, defeating a fighter the experts thought was invincible. sonny liflton. ali arrived, and to prove the point, he put him away in a rematch the following year. the 1960s were glory days for him. it would be a polarizing time in his life. he gave up his given name, and chose islam. he claim ed status, and refewed to participant in the vietnam war. in defiance of a war that he

called unspikable and unjustice. >> i want to win a clean fight. while the intention is kill, kill, and continue to killing innocent people. >> ali, the u.s. supreme court over turned it on a technicality. >> better not fight like that with ali. >> reporter: the world would know that superman even has his off days. >> his undefeated record came to an end. he lost to joe frazier. it was the first of three with smoking. >> i will be pouring water on

his smoking, it may shock and amaze him. >> retire him he did. the famous thrilla in manila fight, following the 14th round. his greatest athletic come dlf back was in zi eear. >> i am so mean, i make medicine sick. >> he knocked out george foreman, called the rumble in the jungle. the diagnosis that he was afflicted with parkinson's disease. after two decades ali, forced to retire. 56 victories, just five defeats.

he never retreated from living a public life. in 1986, he provided one of the most poignant, he lit the caldron in atlanta it ali remained the showman. ali struggled to wys pera word. his hands, and legs shook and his voice trembled. >> i am the greatest. >> his spirit. and a mediator in world conflicts. in 2005, he was presented with a medical of freedom award. the highest civilian honor. >> when you say the greatest of all time is in the room. everybody knows who you mean.

tributes for the champ continue. >> how do you feel getting honored tonight. >> ali, one of the most gifted personalities in sports history. the world may never see the likes of him again. few argue ali needed the crowds as much as they needed him. not for validation. but balls each saw in the other, the best in themselves. >> ali, left, and right, if he hits you once, you sleep for the night. hope and pray thauz never meet me again. >> muhammad ali has died at the age of 74. >> it is just impossible, is it

not to sum up the life muhammad ali? >> it certainty is impossible. there are so many things about everything that not only our sports world has to say, our cult ra, that we can go back in time and look at muhammad ali, the great personality of muhammad ali, or that larger than life way about him. the confidence that came through. all the interviews with howard cosle. maybe most important lie, his wilingness and honesty for the

in so many ways, in sports, culture and national history, muhammad ali will be remembered forever. i am able to see what you are showing. i am in the nobody had any idea, who was going to be the person with to light the flame in atlanta. a total secret. the swimmer was there. in the darkness. out came muhammad ali. if you can describe 80,000 in

press row, it was over it. 20 years ago now. hard to believe he was 54 then. there he was. >> to me, my favorite memory of muhammad ali, shared with the stadium. the shock and the delight. >> when we saw him walku.

he did it twice, to it was remarkable. is there a certain fight that stands out in your mind with muhammad ali? >> the ali frazier fight. i was growing in to lego, you listen to the roompt ali, controversy, there was a lot of people, cheering for him. a lot of people who did not like the way in hindsight, it proved to be a very consciousuous decision. i remember, a lot of

conversation. cheeringing. there was something about ali. he transcended sports. when we think about all that transcend sports, muhammad ali was the first to do thamptd everybo -- that. >> we had been talking about parkinsons that he had for there are links, and questions, if it was. i think in terms of you know, the as we have seen with the

nfl, i think there will be no doubt, the pounding that he took. there is no doubt that i had to have an impact. what lasted and the tragedy in many ways of the last years of his life. >> we appreciate you talking with us. thank you. a spokesma issued a statement

for the ali family. and i quote. after a 32-year battle with parkinsons. his funeral will take place in his hometown of louisville. >> talking about the legacy of muhammad ali what are your thoughts, learning of passing of this icon. >> i have known him since 1960. we met at the olympics in rome. travelled the world together, i would say he is one of the

closest people, i had a lot of friends, he was one of my closest, forever. he was a guy that you know, everybody can be talking about the war, this and that. iz want to tell you a couple of things, because i knew him so well. >> he was at his best with humans. little kids and old people. he wrote a check to save a jewish old age home in new york city. a big check. under the conditions that nobody be told. i kept that silence instead. he is interested in people. >> he lost money, lost his fortune. that is not why he came back.

he did this, he did that people were muhammad a ali's opi dollar. iod. as far as the war goes, i knew he had to go to prison, how i knew. when he was kicked out of chica chicago. he went to canada to fight george schvallo. he was training at the windows

are so dirty, you can barely see the street. this is a real movie set. there is nobody in the gym, but the teenage kid banging on a -- he is getting a rub. sglp what are you doing here? >> there is no, i will tell you the truth t mumd, i came for the simple i know that some people are opposed to the war are going there. they are getting are you going to go home? in over 50 years of knowing him.

jumped off the table, got in my face, and said, you know better than that. that is my birthcountry. that is a large mohammed didn't believe in the war, i will go, and that is a fact. did you know that he never won a supreme court decision on this? >> i did not. >> first, he was on the dick cabbet show everything ger sesaying is -- brought in to

design if he is a -- >> this is the normal process. he comes out, said, this man. >> i am told that if ever, count them on your he was very, you know here is fighting. when there is a experience, you can't getaise fight. state department said you can't

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muhammad ali, known as the greatest, has died. he has been struggling with parkinson's decease for years, and he was hospitalized on thursday with breathing issues. we have on the line, a boxing writer and a close friend of muhammad ali, thank you for staying on the line. some of our younger viewers may not know about muhammad ali, he was an objector to the vietnam war. he